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Question Evershade - Reforming/Rebirth Discussion
- Polk Kitsune
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My story: Evershade: Reforming
- Malady
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Polk Kitsune wrote: Reposting my old fanfic, piece by piece as I'm editting. Any comments, imput, or criticism, please go ahead. Now's the time to have an impact here.
I'm almost too surprised that the doctor doesn't assume mutation. Wait... He didn't get a blood test right? No eye changes... ... Okay... I guess the idea that its a new, non-mutation medical condition could work?
But, given canon, I find it just on the edge of breaking my suspension of disbelief, but not breaking fully, due to Reality is Unrealistic.
- Polk Kitsune
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As for the doctor not going straight to 'mutation', as common as they are to us, as readers, mutations are supposed to be rare, and uncommon. Kyle hadn't shown any obvious mutant traits, nothing major, and even if he was a minor mutant, it might not affect his regular life enough. Doctor could have simply read it as a regular diagnostic.
Hrm. If there was a way to make it more obvious though, I would.
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- FiddlerFox
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If you take the Occam's Razor approach, mutation is going to be the last thing on their mind with just a single symptom thus far.
"Uh-oh." "Don't tell me - we're about to go over a huge waterfall." "Yup." "Sharp rocks at the bottom?" "Most likely." "Bring it on."
BBOOOOOOOOYYAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!
- Polk Kitsune
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Now, if there were symptoms like bursting into fire, or rocky skin, it might be another story.
But so far, I've... Well, kept the powers low.
My story: Evershade: Reforming
- E M Pisek
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What is - was. What was - is.
- Polk Kitsune
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My story: Evershade: Reforming
- Valentine
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Diagnosing gynaecomasty seemed out of place only because of the speed of the growth, although the doctor may have assumed that Kyle had been ignoring any previous growth.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- Polk Kitsune
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Painful you say? In what way, if you don't mind me asking? Just looking in ways I can improve it. The better I know the issues, the better I can fix.Valentine wrote: Reading the baseball practice scene was painful.
Diagnosing gynaecomasty seemed out of place only because of the speed of the growth, although the doctor may have assumed that Kyle had been ignoring any previous growth.
And true, it was a quick diagnostic, and you're also right, the doctor would think it would have taken time. We also have no picture on how many tests were completed.
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- Valentine
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Polk Kitsune wrote:
Painful you say? In what way, if you don't mind me asking? Just looking in ways I can improve it. The better I know the issues, the better I can fix..Valentine wrote: Reading the baseball practice scene was painful.
Diagnosing gynaecomasty seemed out of place only because of the speed of the growth, although the doctor may have assumed that Kyle had been ignoring any previous growth.
Assuming this is in America, the terminology is off.
Baseball is "games" not "matches."
"field pitcher" should be "outfielder,"
"catcher's glove" would be either "second baseman's glove" or "shortstop's glove"
"make the safe of the century" should be "make the slide of the century"
Also the talk between the pitcher (Zack) and the batter seems too casual, they are 60 feet apart, usually the catcher and batter chat casually.
It is also hard to tell if this is a dream or real. The way it is written almost seems like a dream sequence.
Don't Drick and Drive.
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I also noticed and am waiting for the story behind the rather large undisclosed elephant in the room, in that "Where is Mom?"

"Uh-oh." "Don't tell me - we're about to go over a huge waterfall." "Yup." "Sharp rocks at the bottom?" "Most likely." "Bring it on."
BBOOOOOOOOYYAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!
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- Polk Kitsune
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I hadn't thought too hard about the conversation between him and the pitcher though, mostly because the pitcher does have a bit of a bigger role into all of it. They are teammates, and it is a practice run, so I thought 'Why not'? I'll try to think of something then.
Chapter 0 was an extra thing though, one I added in from the old story, and no editors saw it. No second hands to slap me in the face with the obvious. ^^;
As for getting it further than before? Yes. Yes, I do hope so. I hope this editing process will kick in my inspiration to write more.
As for mom? Well, that would be future plans, but she's on my mind. ;3
My story: Evershade: Reforming
- Valentine
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Polk Kitsune wrote: Good notes on the terminology. I'll have to look into that. I'm more used to the French versions of the terms, so vocabulary doesn't always translate, but good to have some insight into that.
I hadn't thought too hard about the conversation between him and the pitcher though, mostly because the pitcher does have a bit of a bigger role into all of it. They are teammates, and it is a practice run, so I thought 'Why not'? I'll try to think of something then.
Chapter 0 was an extra thing though, one I added in from the old story, and no editors saw it. No second hands to slap me in the face with the obvious. ^^;
As for getting it further than before? Yes. Yes, I do hope so. I hope this editing process will kick in my inspiration to write more.
As for mom? Well, that would be future plans, but she's on my mind. ;3
It would be possible for the batter and pitcher to yell things back and forth, and much more likely between friends at practice. The way you wrote it was just too casual, if that makes sense.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- Polk Kitsune
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My story: Evershade: Reforming
- Polk Kitsune
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Now the next one might require some heavier edits.
My story: Evershade: Reforming
- Polk Kitsune
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Any problems, or improvements, please let me know, I'll see what I can do. Any comments are appreciated. :3
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- Polk Kitsune
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I did try to rewrite some parts to add in a bit more dimension to it, without having to rewrite it all. The bathroom scene seemed like a BIG moment, a big chance for improvement, so I spent a lot of time there.
I do need to try and pick up some momentum though. Get a bit more speed.
But thank you so much for the comment. ^^
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- Polk Kitsune
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Though that does mean I may have missed things. Again, comments are welcome. ^^
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- shadeofred
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- Polk Kitsune
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But really, what should I do? Wait until I'm done with all of it, or post chapter by chapter as I'm done?
And thanks for re-reading twice. Really sweet to be appreciated. :3 And I totally understand being busy. TwT;
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- shadeofred
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As Kyle's thoughts about his future and the loss of his future plans, going pro etc., very nice, the sudden realization that if he goes the superhero route he/she might end up being fuel for someone fantasies was a nice touch.
I would've like so see more about is family, especially Abby, she is like a surrogate Mom to the family but she has to more than that and having her background expanded would be nice and to see or at least have life other than family even in mention. The entire family seems to one that is used to making sacrifices for each other, It would be nice to have that filled in a little more if Kyle/Karen is going to be around his family for a bit. Or just have them stay in touch alot at Whateley.
The animated blood scene was nice even if I was getting a 'Thing' vibe, at least the blood isn't screaming or yelling, though when Karen has her first period we might heading for something uncomfortable.
All in all, bravo, brave. Looking forward to reading more.
Many people hear voices when no-one is there.
Some are called 'mad' and shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day.
Others are called 'writers' and they do pretty much the same thing.
-Ray Bradbury
- Polk Kitsune
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And yeah, it seems the beginning of the story is the part I really need to polish. Wish I had a bit of a better idea there. Glad you liked the explanation with Zack though, it did the job I wanted it to. ;3 Makes more sense on how things go afterwards.
As for the doctor, yeah. I f every doctors screamed "MUTANT!" at every strange teenagers with something new, Whateley would be a city, or doctors would be discredited quickly. I believe it was part of my original plans to make it so Kyle doesn't get branded as a mutant right away That it gets more complicated than easy street to a TG girl. I got a much more complex exploration through that.
And yes, thinking about the future, what she'd become later is a big part of it. The gender swap isn't just a loss of the male bit, it's a loss of identity, for some the loss of a lifelong dream. And now, Karen has to think about all of that.
Well, more of the family will be coming, for sure. :3 As for getting them a bit involved once Whateley hits is a tricky question. Letters, or phone calls, maybe?
Her first period? Oh my... To be honest, I thought she might not have to face her period, since she doesn't exactly loose blood... The question though, would be, when might be the period, between her losing blood, and it coming back... And which way? That would be one weeeeEEEEEeeeeEEEEeeeeiiiiiird sensation, I betcha.
And thank you. I hope to bring some more very soon ^^
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That's a very disturbing thought..... but I think the body would hopefully recognize waste products, such as unless her entire cell reproduction process halted, she would still be producing dead skin and hair and nail growth, etc.~Archangel~ wrote: The animated blood scene was nice even if I was getting a 'Thing' vibe, at least the blood isn't screaming or yelling, though when Karen has her first period we might heading for something uncomfortable.
- Polk Kitsune
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How much of a tooth is considered part of the body? What about nails? Or hair? Does she shed tears, have saliva, or go to the bathroom?
All things I have to take into account as I progress.
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Polk Kitsune wrote: A good point, but then one would have to draw the line: what is waste, and what is still usable? What should come back to the body, and what should just remain away? It's something I've questioned since I started.
How much of a tooth is considered part of the body? What about nails? Or hair? Does she shed tears, have saliva, or go to the bathroom?
All things I have to take into account as I progress.
Well just to toss my $0.02 since I opened the can of worms, the easiest would to rule that it only applies to living cells, that take care of nails and hair etc. Regenerating a tooth, well that is normal for Regenerators, but the pulp in a tooth is living tissue with nerves and blood vessels, so maybe the pulp comes to 'life' and returns home.
Now with menstruation, maybe because it is a natural process Karen's body will just wave 'bye-bye' or her body kills the cells that are leaving naturally, that would take care of waste products. Which would imply that her body keeps track of her cells, maybe wiping out the cells that are oldest most likely to fail, or assigning cells to eliminated based on how damaged they are.
Of course if you want to go for body horror there is always the option of discarded pads and tampons suddenly exploding as her blood realizes that it's been abandoned as it tries to breakout to get back home.
Many people hear voices when no-one is there.
Some are called 'mad' and shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day.
Others are called 'writers' and they do pretty much the same thing.
-Ray Bradbury
- Polk Kitsune
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I do hope you all can enjoy. :3
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- Polk Kitsune
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But I'm afraid this is the kind of world they live in. It's how it happens, how views are made, and how some mutants end up. We see a lot of different mutant kids at Whateley, but one has to realize that those who make it there not only have the funds to do so, but have survived long enough to avoid the media, the crowds, or being captured by a villain of some sort. Just getting to the academy is lucky.
What makes it worse for Karen is that she doesn't have any real methods to defend herself either. What does she do? She heals fast. That's about it. No super strength, no telepathy, no martial arts, or breathing fire. And these aren't mutants either, these are just normal humans. Yes, in a gang, but still only normal.
I do realize the deck is stacked against her.
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- Polk Kitsune
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It's... A rather rough one. Very rough.
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- Polk Kitsune
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As for the police... Well, how would you call a scene where the boy has both legs under the ATV, bruised, and broken... And the girl doesn't even have a scar, no matter how ripped her clothes look like?
My story: Evershade: Reforming
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- Polk Kitsune
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My story: Evershade: Reforming
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Getting closer to the point where it left off!
- Polk Kitsune
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And that's right. Two more chapters, and then I'll have to come up with new material.
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- Polk Kitsune
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How fast it can break out, or move about all depends on how much there is present together, but eventually, it would find a way out, then slip out. Time and growth might also be a factor on how they behave, and although there are ways to slow it down, it will find a way, eventually.
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There has to be a limit as to what it can break through though. If not physical, then magical.
- Polk Kitsune
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There's also the question of how effects would apply. Fire? Acids? Freezing? Radiation?
Some of these sound dangerous though, and one might have to wonder if testing at the academy would even consider it.
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I would imagine she would be considered a 5 if she can be harmed by the hazards you mentioned and a 6/6+ if not..... though I'm not sure if there is greater weight given to indestructibility or speed of recovery.
- Polk Kitsune
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Tricky to test too, since you don't want to risk killing, or scarring the student either.
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- Polk Kitsune
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I will admit... I've hesitated on doing a big edition decision on this one... But I decided to leave it as is.
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- Polk Kitsune
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So many possibilities, and I haven't even hit Whateley yet!
Now I just have to keep up the pace. >3
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Everything else will take some time, but will be brand new content, finally hitting Whateley proper.
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And I'm not even at Whateley yet!
.... God, I'm going to have to plan out a lot of things for that one.
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I saw you were fixing typos, and they were bothering me in chapter 10, so I read it again and found way more than I realized there were at first read. * ones appear more than once.
barrely -> barely
dissapeared -> disappeared *
accross -> across *
excersised -> exercised
tobaco -> tobacco *
launh -> launch
hapenned -> happened *
waist-leght -> waist-length
sseen -> seen
spagetti -> spaghetti
familair -> familiar
scisors -> scissors
frightenned -> frightened
reall -> real
Holly -> Holy
hsi -> his
meanth -> meant *
familly -> family
whinced -> winced *
fidn -> find
off tracks should be off track in the paragraph where Karen talks about her choices
cae -> care
lened -> leaned
embarassment -> embarrassment
glaced -> glanced
allrigth and allright -> all right or alright
appart -> apart
leats -> least
openned -> opened
fianlly -> finally
simling -> smiling
coudln't -> couldn't
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I always have a feeling that I'll miss tyops, it always happens. Didn't expect this many. >3
Thanks for hunting them down. :3 I'll be busy.
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GL with that. True respect for authors that can take it from being a stand-alone story to properly integrated.
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But... Well, minor spoilers, I suppose...
Considering if I had to integrate anything into the story, I would have had to get Karen in the middle of the year, it wouldn't exactly make sense. She'd have to either catch up to classes, or skip some all together, while paying fees she might struggle to pay. Since she's moved away from her home, she's in no direct, urgent need to run away to Whateley's protection.
So it makes much more sense to get her in as a new year student in September. Get her to a new group, new students at her level, etc.
Now the other question I have: Would it be during Team Kimba's years on campus? Or should I do it years after the Kimbas have graduated? Or flip it around, and make it before they ever arrived? I do have to wonder at times.
One way or another, I expect to be wrong at times. Just like there may be a whole lot of typos, I expect to make mistakes at various points, it's inevitable. But I have no doubts people will catch me, and tell me what I did wrong. It happens, and I'll try my best to correct things out.
So in a way, I'm counting on you. :3
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Polk Kitsune wrote: Or flip it around, and make it before they ever arrived?
Well, that's what I'm doing, but I've put in a new magic system into the world at the Sundering, so I can use that to say: "Butterflies!" and handwave anything I want to, basically.
You could go AU and say that the Bastard decided to buy time for reasons. ... If I'm doing that, I'm having a meteoroid drop itself on him. 'Cause I've got gods that can do that...
Or just say something along the lines of: "This is fanfic. Not even gonna bother to integrate anything other than basic setting info 'cause I don't want to run a World End Scenario."
EDIT: If you want to integrate, ask Domoviye or something. But, it's not like you need your charas to interact with Canon that much? And if they do, they should throw enough Butterflies to allow you to handwave a few things?
EDIT 2: You could literally go: "Karen stumbled into Chicago and set in motion events that would cause a tornado in New Hampshire." ... Weird, but weird enough that I, personally, would want to see where that fic is going.
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I do believe I'll set about a year or two after the Kimbas have arrived on campus. That way I can still make an entrance, without bumping too much on the cannon characters. If I do need it, or want it, I'll still have something, even if I have to hand wave it.
I may have to contact that person though, to integrate it properly.
And thanks again, Samquick, I did use the whole list of corrections to the last chapter.
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Other person I would recommend is Morph due to the sheer amount of stories produced and the various different universes (s)he contributed to.*
*:I'm always hesitant to use a pronoun until I know for sure how someone identifies

- Polk Kitsune
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Also now wondering how many references I need to intro this properly. If I should use an official character, or make a new one. Might have to look at the wiki for some info.
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On the other hand, if you talk to some of the other fanfic authors, they might be cool for you to include their character alongside yours! Who knows, maybe that will provide the inspiration they need to further their own stories.
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So far, I have 26 pages filled up, 8.5K word count so far, and I've got more to go, not to mention the editing necessary afterwards.
Just hoping it'll all be worth it.
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Current score:
Pages: 36
Wordcount 12,136
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In any case, I do hope people enjoy the read.
Comments , questions and critiques are always welcome. I always look for ways to improve.
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Polk Kitsune wrote: New chapter is up. Was considering making a new thread or not. Don't think I can just rename this thread though.
In any case, I do hope people enjoy the read.
Comments , questions and critiques are always welcome. I always look for ways to improve.
Edit the first comment, I think
also good chapter
Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
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mhalpern wrote:
Polk Kitsune wrote: New chapter is up. Was considering making a new thread or not. Don't think I can just rename this thread though.
In any case, I do hope people enjoy the read.
Comments , questions and critiques are always welcome. I always look for ways to improve.
Edit the first comment, I think
also good chapter
Ooohhhhh. Did that, seems to have worked. Thanks. ^^
And thank you once more. I'm really glad to hear it was good.
Now to follow-up, and do better next time.
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- Jarjaross
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My dreams take me to far off lands and times of distant past and future. They tell what has been done, what will happen and who I am. They show me things beyond the machinations of any man. Tell me, what are dreams to you?
- Polk Kitsune
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Heehee. Thank you. ^^ I'm glad to hear that.Jarjaross wrote: I love everyone's reactions to the hair trick.
Though I wonder which reaction exactly. The part where Robin mourned the hair cutting, or the slack jaws, and stunned look in their eyes?
I'll admit, it just hit me how Robin would be the one who'd be most upset over the cutting. He'd probably have the most experience out of the four with it.
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My dreams take me to far off lands and times of distant past and future. They tell what has been done, what will happen and who I am. They show me things beyond the machinations of any man. Tell me, what are dreams to you?
- Polk Kitsune
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I'm glad you enjoyed it. ^^ Believe me, nothing makes me happier than to hear that.shadeofred wrote: I enjoyed reading the chapter, but knowing the way new characters are integrated, I'm expecting a good portion of the next update will be completion of the tour...... ah well, no help for it.
As for the tour? I actually hope to skip a huge potion of it, maybe only highlight a little part, but then move on straight to the cottage for more character-focused moments.
Most readers here are already familiar with the tour, and the campus, so lucky for me, I don't have to go through it all over again. Heck, I already knew that most of what I did this chapter was follow a good chunk of the original introduction, In my mind, I couldn't make it otherwise, I had to go through it like this, in order to set up Karen's reaction, the characters she'd relate to, and so forth. I at least knew I'd be more original when putting the new characters in, and their backstories.
I know the most interesting parts will be when I introduce the plot, a disturbance in the works, but first I need to set up the backdrop, the settings for it all, and it may take a moment to get there, but I do hope it'll be worth it.
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For those who preferred the original, I left it in a spoiler section on the forum with it. It'll also allow people to spot where the changes kick in on this version.
Any thoughts on the new bit?
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Polk Kitsune wrote: Any thoughts on the new bit?
Interesting! The pragmatic, smart mob-thing is really fresh!

No wonder(s) he didn't fear me by now.
They mustn't have expected the scared little girl to run in first, because the first swing connected right on the jaw of the front runner.
[So they started running already? It wasn't mentioned...]
Not wasting a second, I cut to the other side, and shoved my handle right into the next thugs' guts, cutting the air right out of his lungs just as he was putting his hand over my shoulder. He caught a hold of my shirt, but it ripped into another piece as I kept running for my target.
[Not wasting a second, I cut to the other side, and shoved my handle right into the next thug's guts, (cutting off his air out of his lungs / forcing the air out of his lungs) just as he was trying to grab me. He grabbed my shirt, but it tore away as I ran to my true target.]
arms legs
their mutophobia(s)
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Malady wrote:
Polk Kitsune wrote: Any thoughts on the new bit?
Interesting! The pragmatic, smart mob-thing is really fresh!
Typos and stuff? [ Click to expand ] [ Click to hide ][Place the Original Ending at where the divergence begins? Right now, they both share the first 2 paragraphs. Or is that intended to show where the changes begin? ... Title the spoiler box with 'Original Ending', by changing the spoiler box markup from "spoiler" to "spoiler=Original Ending" ?]
No wonder(s) he didn't fear me by now.
They mustn't have expected the scared little girl to run in first, because the first swing connected right on the jaw of the front runner.
[So they started running already? It wasn't mentioned...]
Not wasting a second, I cut to the other side, and shoved my handle right into the next thugs' guts, cutting the air right out of his lungs just as he was putting his hand over my shoulder. He caught a hold of my shirt, but it ripped into another piece as I kept running for my target.
[Not wasting a second, I cut to the other side, and shoved my handle right into the next thug's guts, (cutting off his air out of his lungs / forcing the air out of his lungs) just as he was trying to grab me. He grabbed my shirt, but it tore away as I ran to my true target.]
arms legs
their mutophobia(s)
MY legs ?
Heehee. Thank you ^^ Glad it's an interesting twist.
The critique I was given, was that the thugs running away was a cop-out. I agreed, but then again, the flipside was her fighting off all of them, which was, quite frankly, impossible. A friend of mine also proposed her calling for help, but the location was far away in the woods...
And I also made sure to look back, and at the beginning, the kidnapper is shown using a phone to call the others, which is where Karen knows he has one.
Typos were fixed. Thanks again. ;3
As for the Front Runner, they weren't running, but it was the first term that came up to mind. Any name outside of Leroy Jenkins for the man leading the charge?
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Can't wait to read more of this : )
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I 'm very glad you enjoyed, and that I could inspire you.

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This one hasn't gone through my usual proofreaders this time, and it might show, but with the new process for WhatIF, I thought it might be safer to post as is for now.
Again, comments and critiques are very, very welcome. Any feedback I can get is helpful. ^^
And I hope you all enjoy the read.
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Also best part of this one was the aftermath. (Though it could have been credibly explained 'she asked what my powers were so I showed her' then repeating the trick)
My dreams take me to far off lands and times of distant past and future. They tell what has been done, what will happen and who I am. They show me things beyond the machinations of any man. Tell me, what are dreams to you?
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Hehehehe. X3 Tempting, but I'm betting it would get old pretty quickly. And after what happened with Natalie, she might be a whole lot more careful about it. :3Jarjaross wrote: Why is it always the hair trick that gets me. I kinda want to see her use it in every chapter now, just for the reactions.
Also best part of this one was the aftermath. (Though it could have been credibly explained 'she asked what my powers were so I showed her' then repeating the trick)
And... True, that could have been a reasonable explanation, I don't think it woudl have come that easily. Mmmmnnn. I could add that in though.
My story: Evershade: Reforming
- Jarjaross
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My dreams take me to far off lands and times of distant past and future. They tell what has been done, what will happen and who I am. They show me things beyond the machinations of any man. Tell me, what are dreams to you?
- Malady
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because this cutie might have had some cooties?"
Nice wordplay!
good in
Sexyer -> sexier
goshipping -> gossipping
Anytime to give my mental visitor -> Any time I can give my mental visitor
a pajama -> a pair of pajamas
you can do (it) with
stand my ground
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Hehehe. I'll have to take it into consideration, but it certainly won't happen all the time. To say the least though, it's a mighty handy way to show off her regen, without doing something like cutting a finger, or opening a wound up. Much less painful... Unless you count emotional scars. ;3Jarjaross wrote: You could start doing some variations of it. Like say a guy with energy blades threatens her, then to piss her off cuts off a huge chunk of her hair. Everyone around her starts acting sympathetic as she just laughs waiting for the hair to reattach.
But I shouldn't try to force it too much. ;3
Malady wrote: Nice intro!
Thank you very much. ^^ Got a few new characters in there too. Next chapter should be a bit more development, but I don't want either to show every single days at her stay in the school either. Gotta get some good plot going.
because this cutie might have had some cooties?"
Nice wordplay!
Heehee. Thank you. ^^
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good intoit
Sexyer -> sexier
goshipping -> gossipping (No double Ps)
Anytime to give my mental visitor -> Any time I can give my mental visitor
a pajama -> a pair of pajamas
you can do (it) with (Actually, it's You can go with him. my bad.)
stand my grounds
miss(Miss) Horton
At least the list of typos has been reduced. TwT; Things are improving.
My story: Evershade: Reforming
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So interesting fact for anyone who cares, France got that reputation because Belgium fell even faster. Belgium fell so fast to the vastly superior (to the belgiums) German forces in WWII that France didn't have time to set up defences on that flank (they could not have set up the defences before because it would have been considered 'rude' to set up large military operations on your allies border). Would you blame a guy for losing a fight when he go hit from behind?
My dreams take me to far off lands and times of distant past and future. They tell what has been done, what will happen and who I am. They show me things beyond the machinations of any man. Tell me, what are dreams to you?
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And yeah, I totally agree about the French being called cowards is a misinterpretation, possibly american-born, if TV Tropes is to be believed ( tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Chee...tingSurrenderMonkeys ). What doesn't help, is that those who keep pushing this keep claiming that France has never won a war, but digging a little deeper gives some rather different war stories, painting under much different colors. There's a reason people remember Napoleon. The French are... Stupidly stubborn. I should know.
My story: Evershade: Reforming
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Polk Kitsune wrote: Heeheehee. Someone really likes that hair bit. ;3
I fully admit that I will probably reread the whole thing every time a new chapter comes out just for all of the hair scenes.
My dreams take me to far off lands and times of distant past and future. They tell what has been done, what will happen and who I am. They show me things beyond the machinations of any man. Tell me, what are dreams to you?
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I am beginning to think that i should take notes as i read a story, it would help provide better feedback on the story as a whole.
Anyway, i particularly like the scenes in which you played with the readers's expectation. I am thinking more specifically about the first signs of mutation. It was quite clever to use the little sister to "deceive" the reader. (Also, i am quite fond of Gabby in general as a character. I am weak to cuteness.)
I wonder if we will see more of the characters introduced in the first Book/part. (and if yes, how. Not directly obviously.) I understand that the fact that they don't show up after the "origin story" in this kind of story can help illustrate the demarcation between the two lives, that in the process the main character has lost a lot of things and gained others. I don't think she will be able to spend her hollidays in her hometown with her childhood friends.
The batch of freshmen you have introduced so far is quite promising.
When i began to read the first bits about Noelle, in a way i was "worried" (for a lack of better term) that she would end up a sidhe, of course you trampled this. The yuki-onna spirit is a nice addition to the Whateley lore. The spirit's confusion caused by poe's gender diversity was interesting.
Robin showed us an aspect we are not really used to seeing : the problems caused by the gender change to a F2M changeling. Well, we have seen some aspects of it thanks to Phoenix spiritus taking Lancer under his/her/their wing. I don't know how far you will explore it but the introduction was already quite interesting in that regard.
I admit i was puzzled by karen's declaration that she now really wanted to be a girl. But she must have processed her thoughts on the matter during the time skip. i was expecting something more along the lines of "Don't pay attention to what i have between my legs, try to know me and then treat me as an individual". Or maybe it is in fact "only" karen wanting to be "Normal" and not really about her gender. If she could be fully a boy or fully a girl, what would she choose ?
I agree, the hair trick is nice. This power is powerful in term of imagery. I endorse the use of blood pourring out of a wall, trying to rejoin Karen. Her power raises a lot a question so far (it's only the start of the schoolyear after all).
Thanks.
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And yes, I do want to be part of WhatIF, in fact, I put up Shade Rebirth up for official feedback and review, befor eI make any more heavy edits, if needed.
I'm very glad you took the time to read, even happier you had a good time. ^^
Yes, I did hope to play a lot on the expectations. I tried to make a few good turns, and use some of the tropes to turn things around. It's fun, and does give more retrospect.
And yes, Gabby is adorable. I tried. ^w^
It does tear me apart to... well, pull them apart, but this is a Whateley story. But I will find a way to put some of them in, somehow. Parent's Day might be a good one. Just imagine Gabby running around, seeing the mutant campus. Oh my...
Glad to hear Noelle was a good surprise. ^^ And even as a concept of a Yuki-Onna, she's pretty unique in her own right. Plus let me put some use to my native language. ;3
And it's true we don't see very many FtM usually. Robin may be a very interesting experience... But this story does have a focus on Karen, so it may be a little limited on what I could explore.
As for Karen, it's true that "Don't pay attention to what i have between my legs, try to know me and then treat me as an individual" is a great mental mindset, it's a lesson she may have to learn... Eventually. How well, and how soon, that may be the question.
As for between a boy and a girl? There's more than just sexual preference involved in there. Right now, if she had a choice, IF she had a choice, she'd go for being a full boy. It's familiar territories. It's what she's spent her whole life as.
But right now, she doesn't get that choice. And between being treated as a girl, and as a herm... She'd rather be taken as something normal.
Which reminds me of something mentioned in the Purple book. How herms faced a bit of a unique stigma. How they could both feel disfigured, yet still thought of as 'pretties' by the GSD groups. That's a very, very lonely place to be at.
Oooohhh. Bleeding through the walls, Interesting effect. I'll have to think up a good bit for it, if I can fit it.
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Polk Kitsune wrote: Which reminds me of something mentioned in the Purple book. How herms faced a bit of a unique stigma. How they could both feel disfigured, yet still thought of as 'pretties' by the GSD groups. That's a very, very lonely place to be at.
Only a few stories, even for the main cast (We have Ayla, Lilly and Chou's POV on it only i think), depict the " Day of Remembrance " ceremony in Poe. It had had quite an impact on Ayla, who had to read Transect's story at the time. I think, if you want to take a shot at it, your own version could also be very emotionally charged.
Ayla 4: Ayla and the Tests
When Belle had first told me about the Day of Remembrance, I hadn’t thought that it was relevant to me. But maybe it was more relevant to me than to anyone else on the floor. Well, except Jade and Chaka, who had been TG long before they manifested mutant powers. Okay, I’d better include Jamie in there too. And Chou. And what about…
I was over-analyzing again. This was painfully relevant to me. I’d been a normal boy. I hadn’t been transgendered. But now I had a mostly female body that I hated, and my mutation had MADE me transgendered. It had changed me into an intersexed freakjob who hated his body as much as Jade hated hers.
On top of that, only Heyoka and I had the ‘intersexed target for gaybashers’ issue with which to deal. Wasn’t that related to the people who would be remembered on the Day of Remembrance? We were too much like them: people who just wanted to be left alone to live their own lives, but instead were beaten or murdered just for being different. Jamie and I had both been put into the hospital by violent thugs who happened to have superpowers too.
Even though I rushed, I was nearly late to the ceremony. Everyone else already had a black armband and a white candle by the time I dashed into the lobby area. Zenith and Beltane were getting the rest of Team Kimba and Lily set up, and they were nearly ready to march downstairs. I hurried to get on an armband and get into the mood.
Someone had spent a lot of time turning the exercise room into a funereal site commemorating far too many dead people. Shrike and Megs and Delta Spike were already down there with armbands and tapers. Electrode and Feral were at the opposite wall.
The walls were covered in black fabric. Way too many pictures of supers decorated the walls, with information attached under each picture. Every one of them had died because they were TG.
Zenith gave a very moving speech, and then had each of us read aloud about one of the people in the pictures. A lot of the stories were like a punch in the stomach or a knife in the chest. It hurt just to hear what had happened to each of them. Some of the stories were betrayals so tragic that Shakespeare could have written them. Some of the stories were so horrific that I just wanted to puke.
Zenith handed me a small sheet of paper, and I skimmed it. It was the story of Transect.
I knew more than was on the paper, because this was one of the ones that Trin & Macintyre had put in their report on how intersexed and hermaphrodite supers had handled their ‘body problem’. But I wasn’t sure I could tell this story without being physically sick.
I started, “Transect was an Exemplar-5 and Warper-2 who was one of the leaders of the Dallas Defenders. She was a hermaphrodite, but outwardly looked like a robust woman. So she had been posing as female since shortly after she manifested her powers. She trusted her teammates so much that she revealed her secret to them. But this was in the middle of Texas. Several teammates rejected her. One, Longhorn, publicly denounced her.
“Two weeks later, Deathlist and his Sabretooths hit the Fort Worth Military Weapons Depot. They targeted Dallas then because they felt sure the Dallas Defenders were in utter disarray. They were unfortunately right. In the ensuing battle, Transect was left unprotected by a teammate, and was knocked unconscious. The Sabretooths took her with them when they had the top-secret weapons they had targeted. Longhorn saw her being kidnapped but didn’t bother to tell the other team members.
“The Sabretooths screwed a devise into the top of her skull so she couldn’t use her Warper abilities. They hacked her male parts off, then cut off her arms and legs. But she was a high-level Exemplar, so she didn’t die from that. They gang-raped her and tortured her for five weeks until she finally died of her injuries. The next morning, the Dallas police were called to the plaza in front of the courthouse building. Deathlist had impaled what was left of her body on a flagpole. He left a note written in her blood. It said: ‘Thanks Longhorn, I could not have done it without you’.
“Longhorn was tried for accessory to abduction and accessory before the fact on murder one, but got a hung jury and was not re-tried. The Dallas Defenders split apart and never re-formed, even though Longhorn tried to start a new group. Because of the demonstrations and picketing by Humanity First! and fundamentalist church groups, Transect was not given a posthumous medal, and was buried in an unmarked grave to prevent people from desecrating the gravesite.”
I just felt sick and shaky and horrified. When the ceremony ended and everyone else went upstairs, I just took off the armband.. and took off for the Hawthorne tunnel. I walked until I was completely lost in the tunnel system, which was exactly what I wanted. I found an empty niche and sat down in it.
Then the shakes really started.
I could die because someone hated that I didn’t fit their simple men-and-women-and-nothing-else worldview. I could be killed in horrible ways because my body had done something that was completely beyond my control. I hadn’t asked to be like this!
I sat there on the floor, shaking uncontrollably, weeping like a girl, and trying not to be violently ill. I couldn’t stop envisioning the hell that Transect had gone through. The horrible images that played through my mind just wouldn’t stop. And all the imagined scenes ended the same way, with that poor, mutilated body being rammed down onto a flagpole anus-first with such force that the tip of the flagpole tore through her body and came out her mouth.
I wished I wasn’t being such a wimp about this. Probably no one else at the ceremony was falling apart like I was. That was the real reason why I had headed for the tunnels instead of going back to my room. I couldn’t bear to have Chou and the others see me being such a pathetic crybaby.
But those stories really struck a chord with me. Maybe it was because I had listened to Father so much as he railed against transsexuals. Maybe it was because I had been such an asshole to Gracie that first day in Los Angeles. Maybe it was because I had turned into exactly what Father had complained about so many times. Maybe it was because I hated my body so much. Maybe it was because so many other people had shown that they hated me even more, because of something I couldn’t control and didn’t want.
I was afraid that I’d never be able to be a guy again. I was terrified that my body wasn’t done changing, and I might grow even more female. I was frightened that some day, some place, someone else would try to destroy me because I was trapped in a body I despised.
Why had this happened to me? What did I ever do to deserve all this?
I sat there, my arms wrapped around my knees, and sobbed for hours. I missed dinner. I didn’t care. I was so far from hungry that I didn’t think I could eat for years.
I finally made myself get up when it was nearly curfew. Since I had no idea where I was, I just went light and flew straight up. When I came up through one of the buildings, I flew through a wall and out into the Quad. Then I dove into the ground and to the Hawthorne tunnel. I was back in the basement of Poe in a few minutes.
I didn’t want to see anyone, or have anyone see me. So I flew up through the first floor and into my room. Then I went straight to bed without washing my face or brushing my teeth or anything. I was still shaky and sick to my stomach, but I was so exhausted from crying and worrying that I actually fell asleep…
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And yeah, I will have to find some time to make it happen. It will likely have a very strong impact. In fact, you might say she's already lived through her own event. She may have survived, but her picture could have been up there... Or maybe not, because no one would have found her body had she died.
So yes, I will have to put it there. It might be too important to miss.
My story: Evershade: Reforming
- Polk Kitsune
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My story: Evershade: Reforming
- Jarjaross
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My dreams take me to far off lands and times of distant past and future. They tell what has been done, what will happen and who I am. They show me things beyond the machinations of any man. Tell me, what are dreams to you?
- Polk Kitsune
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My story: Evershade: Reforming
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- Malady
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shadeofred wrote: You could do something more related to her trait of everything returning to her. Like convergence or something.
Well, the precise process isn't "Regeneration", as nothing's being generated... Assimilation... I guess the best word(s) to describe Not!Shade's form of healing would be "Reformation" or "Return To Me" or something.
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My story: Evershade: Reforming
- Polk Kitsune
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These were some of the commissions I asked that relate to Karen, and the story here.
Kyle XX commission (Mildly NSFW) : What I had asked once to be the title card for Evershade: Reforming, by Drunkfu.
Karen 1 : Karen, a bit later on, once she might have a better hold of her powers. A little off, but very good nonetheless.
Karen 2 : Still Karen, and this time, with the arm, there was a little bit of miscommunication, but I liked it nonetheless.
And I may be adding another picture soon, possibly a title card for Rebirth... Possibly.
My story: Evershade: Reforming
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Hopefully, I'll have the next chapter up soon. I was thinking of extending it to the first cliffhanger I had in mind, but considering the length, and what you mentioned before, I think I can cut this one much earlier.
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My story: Evershade: Reforming
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Not the most exciting chapter, but some testing had to be done.
I do hope everyone reading enjoys. ^^
My story: Evershade: Reforming
- Malady
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That's when I heard a snipping sound behind me, followed by a slow slurp. "Mmmnnn. So the reports were accurate." Dr. Bowie mumbled. "Even the hair follows the same rules."
Lionel grumbled. "Evershade, could you turn ninety degrees to your left? Dr. Bowie, can you repeat, so the cameras can record the procedure?"
"Certainly," she added with a hint of sarcasm. "All you needed to do, was ask nicely."
So sudden!



Also, cool having two Karens in the story.
There was another snip, and I caught a glimpse of Bowie slipping the clip of hair in her thermos, before sealing it. "What are you doing?"
That's a strange non-chalant way of sample handling, putting it in a thermos, that is likely empty of coffee though... ... I forget if I've ever said that whenever Karen does her hair-cutting demo, I always think she's gonna cut her arm or something, like a typical regen example. But, I guess that's part of the fun of reading this series.
"Ah yes. Old and reliable, they say," she mumbled morosely, as they started sticking all sorts of diodes to the suit's circuitry.
"Something wrong?" I just had to ask.
Bowie was about to fill me in, but Lionel cut her off first. "She's simply upset that the department denied her cosmetic changes to this test in peculiar."
She snerked, and shrugged. "I still say it's an improvement on an obsolete technology."
"Karen, I-" Lionel sighed. "Look, we don't need to make gigantic hamster wheels. It won't go. We have perfectly working equipment here, fully functional, proper view, and we don't need to make the students feel like lab rats."
Bowie just crossed her arms, and lifted her nose up. "You just don't get it, do you? It's elegance in the workings. It's be so much better, so simpler, and you can do so many things based on it."

... And then the font changes after this part. Weird.
There are also more typos... The Changing Cards is some pretty cool tech, unless it's magic. If it's tech, it might sell pretty well?
Bowie waved her hand. "But that's something for another date. In the meantime, should we crank up the speed for a few minutes? See how long you can-er..."
Her glance shifted to the side, and we looked over, to see a little black blob wiggling it's way down the floor, hopped over to my leg, and climbed back up to it's place in my mane of hair.
"What just happened?" Bowie just had to ask.
"I do believe," Lionel noted. "That you had a containment failure. Would you like your hat with a hint of barbecue or mustard? My treat."
Ha!
Bowie returned with her thermos, container in one hand, lid in the other, examining both carefully. "Considering the lab, and our presence, I doubt either one of you opened this?" She got a few shaked heads. "Then those may be very clever for cells. They opened it from the inside."
"What makes you say that?"
The doctor pointed at the lid. "The rubber ring to seal it is intact, and there are no breaks in the threads. Those should have been the weak points to get through, but instead, the cap was pulled off. It would need to make a structure inside to brace itself to the cylinder and the cap, and twist each other off." She frowned. "I do wish I had a clear container, so we could have recorded it in action."
OMGWTFBBQ?!?!?



I squeezed the grip as hard as I could. I could see the needle struggle a bit deeper, harder. It was digging in my skin, but I kept on going. I was determined to show what I could do.
But determination wasn't enough to impress Doctor Bowie. "Nothing here. Check."
What's going on here?? Gotta stop around here. Got to the list of stuff, though. ... Maybe it'll make sense later... The needle makes me think some kind of penetration regen test. But why, okay, 'digging in my skin' is the grip, not the needle? As latest subject was the needle, made me think it was the needle. Grip Strength test I guess. Unlikely to be for Black Arms, though.
Gonna just keep reading now, though... Nevermind, Rapid rereads make typos more glaring and irritating...
personal -> personnel
access to -> access too
out scalpels -> out scalpels.
hair in(to) her thermos [? Possibly could work without the 'to'?]
Ace of heart [Usually Ace of 'hearts'? But might be a regional thing?]
There was no doubles! [Were, 'cause you're dealing with a plural subject?]
each card
... I'm not your only beta am I? If I am, then it's better to just post here and have me respond on comments? It feels more important when it's got more viewers? And a bit easier to comment this way?
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Not anymore it seemsMalady wrote: ... I'm not your only beta am I?

Thanks for the chapter!
"hair dryer" An actual hair dryer! Who would have thought? xD It's nice to use simple solutions instead of going for the complicated devise all the time.
The new doctor definitely has some character. I like her already. I'll bet she'll make this whole testing a joyride
"No, it was because they found nothing but water" That would explain a few peripherical questions that were asked in the thread about wastes.
Yep! Bowie is making it interesting alright. First the thermo and now mentionning cospetic changes to the lab.
The hair came back despite it all! "Would you like your hat with a hint of barbecue or mustard?" Shipping Lionel and Bowie after that comment.
Is that the impossible quizz you can find on the internet? God are thwy twisted! xD
"Life is just a serie of tests. You just don't see all of them coming, and the lessons come after you fail them." I want this quote in my signature. If only I had spce for more characters though (T_T) I can only fit "Life is just a serie" *sad*
Bowie runs to the wrong room. Loving Bowie. She's like the cherry on top of all that testing. It wouldn't be nearly as entertaining without her.
"Not as handy" Puns (-3-)
We got some explanation of the shadow arms (and now legs) as a shifter trait. More like Karen's whole package could potentially fit into the shifter category. Sounds good to me. I wonder if she can shadow her entire body, duplicating herself into two or having an out of body experience. I'm explaining the fact that she could pass through handcuffs and not the body suit as her black arms being liquid. The suit being hydrophobic, it would keep all that liquid inside. I don't think she would have too much trouble with pants and long sleeve shirts so long as those were permeable enough to let her shadowy stuff through.
- "Eyes closed, and I gave" (remove 'and')
- "further caption will needs" ('need', no 's')
- "I could see the needle struggle a bit deeper, harder. It was digging in my skin, but I kept on going." (Change the 'it' for something more descriptive of the grip-strength device's handle. At first I thought the needle was digging into Karen's skin)
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Glad to see Bowie is having the wanted reaction. X3 I've had similar results with Emilly when she first came in, and it's part of why I wanted to have her come back in Reforming's chapter 9.
As for the hair demo, yes, I do wonder at times if I shouldn't go for another method of demonstrating, but cutting a finger, or cutting the skin would be quite painful, so the alternative with hair is probably much more preferred.
... And if I'd have to go for skin, the ear would likely be easier to cut. Less bones and muscles to go through >> <<
Not sure what to say about the font changes though. Let me try to fix that.
And yes, that is based on the impossible quiz found on the internet. >3
Mmmnnn. Hydrophobic clothing, maybe. A possibility I wouldn't go against, but then after, it becomes less an issue with making an arm, and more about the integrity of it's form. Would it be as strong as one without the cloth in the way?
Glad to see you're enjoying the chapter. :3 And the typos have been fixed.
Hrmmm.. And yes, the grip test should have been worded better. Hindsight, I suppose. Tried another wording, how does that look?
My story: Evershade: Reforming
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Oh, I hadn't thought about the integrity of her arms. Hm. If she controls her shifting enough, she could change to a liquid state to pass through clothes, then solidify outside of it? I'll wait and see on that one.
The wording is definitely better. How about changing "skin" for "hand" just to make it extra obvious what it is she is doing?
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This was commissioned from DangerCat. You can find their DA page here: danger-catt.deviantart.com/
My story: Evershade: Reforming
- Malady
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You talked about white and black arms. She's not white, she's brown.
You could change your phrasing to match, but then her mutation changes her ethnicity? But, Caucasian-ness is not that important to the story?
- Jarjaross
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Secondly, gruuuugh. You are safer than others might be eidetic memories (the scientific term for photographic memory, the only reason you are safer is because you called it photographic) don't work that way. I know I have one. They aren't as good as you describe. They aren't as good as anyone describes. Actually without eidetic recall (which I don't have) they are borderline normal. Eidetic memories don't deteriorate overtime. Thats it. I remember everything, but it is still harder to recall less frequent things.
Before anyone sugguests I don't have one, every psychiatrist/psychologist I've been to who has tested memory has stated that I have one.
My dreams take me to far off lands and times of distant past and future. They tell what has been done, what will happen and who I am. They show me things beyond the machinations of any man. Tell me, what are dreams to you?
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Jarjaross wrote: Secondly, gruuuugh. You are safer than others might be eidetic memories (the scientific term for photographic memory, the only reason you are safer is because you called it photographic) don't work that way. I know I have one. They aren't as good as you describe. They aren't as good as anyone describes. Actually without eidetic recall (which I don't have) they are borderline normal. Eidetic memories don't deteriorate overtime. Thats it. I remember everything, but it is still harder to recall less frequent things.
I thought the exemplar package came with photographic memory at the higher levels, even if that's not how eidetic memory works in the real world. I remember at least Thuban mentioning it as part of his package, and Ayla does pull out feats of memory from time to time.
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GrimGrendel wrote: Great picture of Karen! Me likey!
Jarjaross wrote: Secondly, gruuuugh. You are safer than others might be eidetic memories (the scientific term for photographic memory, the only reason you are safer is because you called it photographic) don't work that way. I know I have one. They aren't as good as you describe. They aren't as good as anyone describes. Actually without eidetic recall (which I don't have) they are borderline normal. Eidetic memories don't deteriorate overtime. Thats it. I remember everything, but it is still harder to recall less frequent things.
I thought the exemplar package came with photographic memory at the higher levels, even if that's not how eidetic memory works in the real world. I remember at least Thuban mentioning it as part of his package, and Ayla does pull out feats of memory from time to time.
Yeah, and no one goes into the memory tests which is why I don't get POed.
My dreams take me to far off lands and times of distant past and future. They tell what has been done, what will happen and who I am. They show me things beyond the machinations of any man. Tell me, what are dreams to you?
- Polk Kitsune
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If you're mentioning about the picture's skin color tone, this one may be closer to the artist's style and color choices. If you look at previous pictures I linked up, you'll see a much whiter complexion from other artists.Malady wrote: Only one problem-ish-thing.
You talked about white and black arms. She's not white, she's brown.
You could change your phrasing to match, but then her mutation changes her ethnicity? But, Caucasian-ness is not that important to the story?
As for why I didn't ask it to be corrected, I didn't think it was THAT brown.
Hmmmmnnn. Interesting point, I'll admit. I'll have to blame my lack of education on the topic, since everywhere I read about similar topics even outside Whateley, it's described as photographic memory, and treated as such. As Grim mentioned, even in Ayla stories, it's called the same way, so familiar terms may apply.Jarjaross wrote:
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Jarjaross wrote: Secondly, gruuuugh. You are safer than others might be eidetic memories (the scientific term for photographic memory, the only reason you are safer is because you called it photographic) don't work that way. I know I have one. They aren't as good as you describe. They aren't as good as anyone describes. Actually without eidetic recall (which I don't have) they are borderline normal. Eidetic memories don't deteriorate overtime. Thats it. I remember everything, but it is still harder to recall less frequent things.
I thought the exemplar package came with photographic memory at the higher levels, even if that's not how eidetic memory works in the real world. I remember at least Thuban mentioning it as part of his package, and Ayla does pull out feats of memory from time to time.
Yeah, and no one goes into the memory tests which is why I don't get POed.
But would you mind explaining what makes Eidetic Recalling different? And what would have made the testing proceed differently?
Heehee. And thank you, GrimGrendel. ^^ I'm so glad how she turned out.
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Malady wrote: Only one problem-ish-thing.
You talked about white and black arms. She's not white, she's brown.
You could change your phrasing to match, but then her mutation changes her ethnicity? But, Caucasian-ness is not that important to the story?
If you're mentioning about the picture's skin color tone, this one may be closer to the artist's style and color choices. If you look at previous pictures I linked up, you'll see a much whiter complexion from other artists.
As for why I didn't ask it to be corrected, I didn't think it was THAT brown.
Well, it's a good picture, it's just not what I expected from reading the story. There's a lot of purple and black, I guess to resonate with her eyes being purple and the black arms. Which is cool!
And 4 black arms! ... Okay, honestly, when I read the white and black arms section, I was thinking that she spawned another set of arms that were alabaster white... Perhaps change that from "white" to "natural" or something?
Wait...her power is not just regen, 'cause she's got the arms?
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And I do see about the white arms, I may have to be a bit more clear, but all the extra, non-human arms are black, like the goo that would come from her.
And yes, I did go for four arms, I could have come with more, but we thought it was a good number. Of course, right now, she's not exactly familiar with it...
And in a fashion, yes, it does mean she has more than just the regen factor. Ever since chapter 8, I've had those arms come up, so I can't just ignore them either. She will grow, and become more talented as she goes.
But those extra arms, right now, are rather unreliable. She's only pulled them out when her arms are bound, and how often would that happen? She's not going to be walking around on handcuffs all the time. She'd need something to stop her arms, restrain them, while she mentally tries to move them, like... Huh... Looking at the picture, this was supposed to be a change for the artist, but it turned into a nice little accident... Cool!
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Hmmmmnnn. Interesting point, I'll admit. I'll have to blame my lack of education on the topic, since everywhere I read about similar topics even outside Whateley, it's described as photographic memory, and treated as such. As Grim mentioned, even in Ayla stories, it's called the same way, so familiar terms may apply.Jarjaross wrote:
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Jarjaross wrote: Secondly, gruuuugh. You are safer than others might be eidetic memories (the scientific term for photographic memory, the only reason you are safer is because you called it photographic) don't work that way. I know I have one. They aren't as good as you describe. They aren't as good as anyone describes. Actually without eidetic recall (which I don't have) they are borderline normal. Eidetic memories don't deteriorate overtime. Thats it. I remember everything, but it is still harder to recall less frequent things.
I thought the exemplar package came with photographic memory at the higher levels, even if that's not how eidetic memory works in the real world. I remember at least Thuban mentioning it as part of his package, and Ayla does pull out feats of memory from time to time.
Yeah, and no one goes into the memory tests which is why I don't get POed.
But would you mind explaining what makes Eidetic Recalling different? And what would have made the testing proceed differently?
Heehee. And thank you, GrimGrendel. ^^ I'm so glad how she turned out.
First of all sorry for the late response. I have been busy today, didn't log in till now.
Eidetic memory: you remember everything. No qualifiers. Your memory is not affected by normal memory degradation, so any memory you have will not be altered by the passage of time, except for the minor loss between short and long term. (This can lead to really weird scenarios, I have no concept of how much time has passed since significant points in my life, because as far as my mind is cincerned they happened yesterday.)
Eidetic recall: you can recall anything at the drop of a hat, but your memories suffer the same deterioration that other people do.
Both: this is sometimes called true photographic memory. You remember everything and can recall it at will.
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Jarjaross wrote: .Eidetic memory... (This can lead to really weird scenarios, I have no concept of how much time has passed since significant points in my life, because as far as my mind is cincerned they happened yesterday.)
What. Hmm... I'd say there's something wrong about that, but I wouldn't know.
What about the different types of memory... [Ah. Edit: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory#By_information_type Declarative vs. Procedural at least.] I think that some of "when did this happen" is some sort of factual knowledge that should semi-separate from the experience, so like, you know that you had some job as your first job, vs. your current job, or that you got married at some and such time... But, not sure... Depends on what you label "significant points"...
Like, you should at least know that you weren't on vacation yesterday or something...
Some examples to contrast perfect memory vs perfect recall, please? I guess, people that have either can remember like... "What did you have for breakfast?" perhaps. The P-Recall would be able to answer immediately, but the P-Memory might need to think about it?
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No worries for the lateness. Things happen. I'm just happy I got a response. ;3Jarjaross wrote: First of all sorry for the late response. I have been busy today, didn't log in till now.
Eidetic memory: you remember everything. No qualifiers. Your memory is not affected by normal memory degradation, so any memory you have will not be altered by the passage of time, except for the minor loss between short and long term. (This can lead to really weird scenarios, I have no concept of how much time has passed since significant points in my life, because as far as my mind is cincerned they happened yesterday.)
Eidetic recall: you can recall anything at the drop of a hat, but your memories suffer the same deterioration that other people do.
Both: this is sometimes called true photographic memory. You remember everything and can recall it at will.
Mmmnnn. It's as I thought. And I can see how that'd be quite troubling if you only have the permanent memory.
At least I've established that she does have a very, very good memory, even if short term. Further testing might reveal that she does have a complete photographic memory. I could either edit this testing scene to make sure to show the different between Eidetic Recall and Eidetic Memory, or I can explain that part in the future testing, when they gauge how good it is.
Hrmm... Now the other question would be if she can have the full package or not. Would she be able to be trained to focus her recall? Questions, questions...
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If she has eidetic recall she (from what I know, I don't know much) could have listed off the order, short term memory is better than long term so it would be pretty easy.
@Malady: I can tell you how long ago something happened if I can reconstruct every time period between now and then. The more time between now and the point I want to remember the harder it is to do that because of lack recall. 'Significant point' are just points of memory I recall frequently.
Sometimes having an eidetic memory is basically an advanced version of 'something is wrong here, I can feel it'. I could enter a classroom with assigned seating and know someone was in the wrong spot, without actually being able to tell you who.
Other times it is having wikipedia in my head. I have the information, I can tell you details of the information, I do not have a source.
I think the best way to describe how my memory works is the map in my feet. I only need to walk somewhere once and I know not only how it connects to other paths in my head but also how to get back home or any other near by location that is already in the map. ButI have no concept of how far I've walked or what direction I'm going (other than toward or away from my destination, even then I don't know what direction my destination is in, just whether I have made progress towards it). I also couldn't give someone directions to get somewhere. I know how to get there because I remember it, but I can't explain the path because my brain doesn't process a path, it just knows where to turn,
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Otherwise, I also have a bit of an update fro the story: the next chapter's rough draft has been written up. I'll review it again, have a proofreader, then I'll post here. I can only hope it has the kind of impact I hope it will pack. X3
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I know it's a bit close to the holidays, but I had to post it now. Any comments and critiques are welcome. Thank you for reading. ^^
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She's really philosophical and smart and stuff...
I was thinking it'd be Powerpuff Girls potion, but no. I guess the Liquid Sunshine wore off and she looks normal after a while?
Nice Alchemy worldbuilding!
Oh hey, it's Zack!
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Though I do have to give some thanks to a friend of mine for Dissent. Very interesting character to write with.
And yes, the potion would have worn off, and the tan woudl have faded off. Perks of being regen 6?
Heehee. And thanks. ^^
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Polk Kitsune wrote: I'd considered, but I'm debating... I heard at some points, something happened to Carmilla. I have no ideas...
She's missing. Trapped in a summoning circle on a peace of paper that's bin folded up and stashed somewhere.
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Anyway, your story will diverge from the canon storyline, so if you think Sara would add something to it, I say go for it.
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Have you heard all this before?
Are you on an Apple mobile, or Android? If the former, I don't have in-depth know-how to help.
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Polk Kitsune wrote: Yeah, I heard something similar, and that makes me a bit uneasy to use her. I don't know if she'll be back or not... Sad fate by the sound of it... I don't know the full context though.
She won't be gone forever. She's trapped in paper. Paper is to fragile to last for long. It rots and decays. And even a few drops of water would set her free. Though I'm worried about what will happen when she does after starving all this time.
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I have an iPhone, and I've been using their browsers, with the wiki page open, going with the dated list, and opening tabs as I go. It's been working so far.
As for Zack... Well, for Karen to bring charges on him, she'd have to bring proof, which she doesn't have from back then.
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And glad to see Zack had the right effect. :3 And yeah, him showing up is goign to be one heck of a surprise for Karen, considerign what he's put her through. It might be ironic in some cases that the 'anti-mutant' turns out to be one, but... Zack seems rather cheerful, no?
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But yes, if he ever does find out, I get the two of them will be mighty surprised... *whistles innocently*
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The scenes with Ito are a good example of how he starts teaching the new classes.
Nice to compare the emphasis on the reading material which wasn't emphasised as much in the original stories. (Though i'll have to go back and look, to see how the original canon told that aspect of his teaching technique. Another excuse for an archive trawl...

Also a nice twist with
Also what will happen when the full story about the H1 lynch mob attack comes out?
Will Karen be able to talk about it without outing Poe, and, without making herself a target, in the same way that Ayla did?
What are the odds that this will unfold easily by someone referring Karen to one of the school counsellors, or unfold difficultly with angst and drama?
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So we skip the whole meeting with Zack? No hint that he recognised her?
"Evershade-san" I don't remember Ito sensei ever using suffixes. Sounds a little strange
"-A few hours before...-" YAY! *reads with rapt attention*
Did she introduce herself as Karen back at the mall with Lauren and Owen? (Quick look back at Reforming, and nope. She remains the unnamed tagalong for the duration of Zack's scene)
Oh, locker problems. That had to come up at one point or another. And Karen's thoughts are oh so funny to read xD "Very nice black. Very clean. Must have been freshly painted." Just adorable! <3
"I've got no sweat. I mean, I'm as dry as they come" Hey! That's cheating! xD
So Zack's situation wasn't really addressed, but now Karen knows she has enough anonimity to act freely and carefully on that front. She also finds a solution to her locker problems, even though that solution is running away. Fair enough.
And cute Karen is being cute and making friends <3
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As Marcie made a pose with peace signs
Reminds me of
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Welcome to the Cave of Wonders, Karen. Remember: don't touch anything. Especially the magic lamp.
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That back wall was something to marvel!

Nice having her think through what it means as Zack is there! ... She's so worried she spaces out in BMA! Or is she also naturally spacey as well, and we've only seen her worry enough to see her space out?
... The idea that others from her hometown are there as well, is interesting... I wonder how she's gonna get info on Zack... Ayla? Or someone else to give info?
How long will her Herma. status stay unrevealed? Possibly forever?? Unlike Ayla??
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Every questions > Every question
focussed > focused
girl's locker > girls(') locker [?]
it's own steroid system > its own steroid system
scotts-free > scot-free
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Thank you very much for the comments. ^^Mister D wrote: Interesting new chapter.
The scenes with Ito are a good example of how he starts teaching the new classes.
Nice to compare the emphasis on the reading material which wasn't emphasised as much in the original stories. (Though i'll have to go back and look, to see how the original canon told that aspect of his teaching technique. Another excuse for an archive trawl...)
Also a nice twist withWarning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ] [ Click to hide ]Zack appearing. It means that he probably manifested, and may have had some of the same experiences with H1. It's what will happen when this information comes out, which will shape the future interactions with the other students as well as the staff.
Also what will happen when the full story about the H1 lynch mob attack comes out?
Will Karen be able to talk about it without outing Poe, and, without making herself a target, in the same way that Ayla did?
What are the odds that this will unfold easily by someone referring Karen to one of the school counsellors, or unfold difficultly with angst and drama?
The info about Zack will be something Karen will want to investigate, find out what's going on, so she can face what's there. Though I suppose info about the H1 attack might come from emails from Lauren at this point.
A good question, which I will expand with a few key differences between the two: Ayla made it clear to anyone who dared mistake him for a girl that he was still a guy. He never tried to hide himself or disguise as a girl (on purpose, at least).Malady wrote: How long will her Herma. status stay unrevealed? Possibly forever?? Unlike Ayla??
Karen? She does want to be treated as a girl, to live as one and keep her intersexed status a secret. It's part of the reason I really stuck this second shower scene in there. She's terrified of being found out and the consequences of being treated as a freak like that. She'll go to great lengths and efforts to be seen as a normal girl.
Of course, like the gym showers, she can run, but she can't always hide. X3
As for Mister D's question mentioned before: if I didn't try to aim for drama, I would have a pretty boring story, now would I? ;3
Heehee. Really glad the humor lines worked so well, and Karen's cuteness kept up! I was so nervous at times. X3
Information about Zack though might be a bit scarce. He's also a freshman, so information gathering would only have about a day or two of information to go by. If Karen had to look, she might go to Catherine and Dissent also for info, THEN get pointed to Ayla... If she goes that way.
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No, the story isn’t dead, but delays happened, and I have been sidetracked. Part of it was a plan for a cross-over with another writer, which fell through after months of planning, though I will be salvaging from that, learned a few things.
But that’s not the only thing that’s kept the gears slowed down, and even now, I’m drawn to reading more over writing. Progress on the next chapter will happen still. Better slow progress, than nothing at all.
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And I just finished the second part that is in the Fab Lab. Sure it could use a proofreader (but which of us couldn't?!) but beyond a few odd typos and the like, I saw nothing out of place. And yep she sure needs to find out what is up with Mr Sinister! That is one dude who needs to have his cranial-rectal inversion cured!
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Not the longest chapter, but still, progress!
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If there's anything missed, please do let me know.
Any comments or criticism is welcome. ^^
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And true, not the biggest progress, but I had a few characters I had to introduce, and allowed me to develop Noelle and Robin a bit more.
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Hrmmm. And yes, you're not the only one who mentioned that discussion with Dissent. I've got to go back, and edit that one. Take a scalpel, and dig out what needs to be pulled out or not.
But which ones did you mean by going over the same grounds? If it'll help me narrow down the list...
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Yeah, the conversation as a whole could use some edit. Going through on my files, and working on there. It'll take me some time, but I'll polish that up.
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Again, comments and critique are welcome.
Now, as much as I want to just move on, there's a chapter in need of editing that I've pushed back for far too long.
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This first one was missing the wings and the more human parts, but still the concept was there.
This one here though is a lot closer to the idea.
And a bit more recent one by @Tailsfiraga
... Yeah, maybe I like the concept a little much.
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