Question What power?
- Cryptic
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- Ametros
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Of course, the MID need not be strictly correct, either. Don't they favour describing the what as opposed to the how? In that case Shifter might be applicable.
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- Sir Lee
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- Kristin Darken
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I think a combination of Warper/PK would be where I'd take it. Have the PK be a 'smoke kinetic' who can use their Warper ability to move through an elemental subplane between earth/fire/air (smoke) and draw smoke out from that plane for use in its PK shell and abilities. You could also go Warper/Energizer with the Energizer power source being the Smoke dimension also.
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- Cryptic
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Kristin Darken wrote: The biggest question is... does the character turn to smoke or does the character appear to turn to smoke. .
I was thinking turns into something smoke/cloud like, as when I thought of her a nI love Jennie rerun was on and the billow from the bottle stuck with me. my other thought thast came to me after logging off was she is a djinn for real
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Anne wrote: Though as I said, depending on how controlled a shifter is and the level of their power, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see one be able to do this trick. I suppose that a manifestor could pull it off too if they were a high enough level manifestor. A mage?
Shifter - no. Trust me, Whateley Universe shifting CANNOT go that far. Whateley Universe Shifting can't even do some of the Sandman / Plastic Man / Mr Fantastick stuff that you see in Marvel/DC... because we have to account for biological processes / physics that they ignore. Mass limitations are a big factor, for example... there ARE some rare classes of Shifter that can alter their mass, but generally within strict limitations. And there ARE Shifters who can go to places that wouldn't be sustainable for human organs... but think about it, even going as far as 'slime' would require the ability to function without a nervous system transmitting perceptual and command data, without a respiratory or blood system conveying air/energy to the whole. And slime is still molecularly in contact within its boundaries. Smoke, by its nature, is diminishing dispersed solid matter carried by air. The closest I think a 'shifter' could ever get to smoke would be a spore cloud. But there can't be any spore cloud Shifters in the Whateley Universe. It'd be something like a Shifter 10 or 12.
Manifestor - no. Manifesting actually goes the 'wrong' direction to have someone turn to smoke. It adds mass (from ectoplasm), not removes it. You could create a 'false' image (a seeming) of someone turning to smoke... but it would actually not BE that person in the first place, just a manifesting created ectoplasm version of them that you then allow to dissipate in the form of smoke.
Magick - yes. But it'd probably be a pretty complex spell and thus require a lot of skill to perform at the expense of much Essence, moving it out of practical range of all but the most powerful. Of course, just how complex would depend on what it allows the recipient to do. If they can move like smoke (through small apertures), be undamaged by normal physical weapons (though at a cost of being at risk to wind/water), then it might be very challenging, Unless, as you say, its part of their nature (like an ifrit - a subtype of jinn and specifically a creature of smoke).
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Actually a warper is the most probable power to produce the stated effect. Look at Phase, while he never becomes smoke, he does become intangible.CrazyMinh wrote: What about a warper???
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- Cryptic
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I forgot about her.Malady wrote: ^^ - Oh, like Alakazam!
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Sir Lee wrote: her shifting ability might be mystical in nature rather than the mutant Shifter power, no matter what categories the Wiki currently assigns her.
As I agreed above, unless its part of an innate ability for a creature made of smoke, like an ifrit.
A Shifter can't become a Sidhe either, typically. They can LOOK like one. But Shifting (as a MUTANT) doesn't involve a component of Essence... so just like it is very difficult (without powerful magick and a huge source of Essence - something that currently only rarely occurs, at the point where some mutants manifest) for someone to be changed from human to Sidhe through spell work, Shifters run into the same issue. Most Whateley Universe Shifting, after all, is mostly just manipulation of the appearance/shape of the flesh. Only the the powerful can shift to sustainable genetically whole alternate shapes... and only the absolute tops of the power can add power components (something that is part of the extradimensional construct of an individual as opposed to just physical genetics) or add or remove mass through the manipulation of ectoplasm.
But... if you ARE a Sidhe (or an Ifrit) and you have the ability to Shift (not common in Sidhe, but Ifrits and their lessers, jinn and such do it naturally... being creatures of smoke, it makes sense, really).
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- Ametros
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Kristin Darken wrote: without powerful magick and a huge source of Essence - something that currently only rarely occurs, at the point where some mutants manifest
Let me just file that little piece away with the rest of the GEO info...

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