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8 years 5 days ago #201 by E. E. Nalley
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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote: Oh yeah, I noticed that Coyote is a Disney fan.


    Not at any time, only when it was funny...

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    8 years 5 days ago - 8 years 5 days ago #202 by Amy_Amethyst
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  • M - I - G -Gee he's dumb- H - T - Y - Why would anyone work for him?
    M - O - O - S - E

    ;)

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  • I also loved Mighty Moose.

    Danny needs to start working on finding a way to incorporate clothes of some sort into his shifting. It's probably doable, because his hair and nails shift with him and return, and both of those are just dead materials. Since his shifting is magic, it's probably something to do with either them being part of his self image, them being physically attached to him, or them being extrusions originally created by his own body. Those are all possibilities that can be exploited, albeit not necessarily in practical ways. He won't know until he tries, though. Maybe he'll get lucky and it'll work like it did for the Animorphs, letting him absorb anything that's skintight when he shifts to cougar and then restore it when he shifts back.

    Worst case, he could get a gadget, devise, or charm that could create a hologram/illusion of a simple changing screen (this would be a lot easier/cheaper than getting it to cover him with holo-clothes or whatever, though that would be more convenient). He could leave it on his belt and just walk over and poke it with a claw before changing back. Alternately, he could use an elastic band to wear it around his waist under his shirt. If the band is stretchy enough, it'll keep the projector snug in cougar mode so he'll always have it with him in case he needs some privacy. Might be an interesting holdout in a fight, too; nobody expects the cougar they're fighting to randomly disappear behind a holographic changing screen and then leap through it to chomp their jugular.

    As for Wondercute, they could be good for Danny if they can help him to get past caring what other people think of him. But I'm rooting for him to stand up and carve his own path instead of letting everybody railroad him like a pathetic loser.

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    8 years 4 days ago #204 by elrodw
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  • Amy_Amethyst wrote: M - I - G -Gee he's dumb- H - T - Y - Why would anyone work for him?
    M - O - O - S - E

    ;)


    :lol:

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    8 years 4 days ago #205 by Valentine
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  • Kettlekorn wrote: I also loved Mighty Moose.

    Danny needs to start working on finding a way to incorporate clothes of some sort into his shifting. It's probably doable, because his hair and nails shift with him and return, and both of those are just dead materials. Since his shifting is magic, it's probably something to do with either them being part of his self image, them being physically attached to him, or them being extrusions originally created by his own body. Those are all possibilities that can be exploited, albeit not necessarily in practical ways. He won't know until he tries, though. Maybe he'll get lucky and it'll work like it did for the Animorphs, letting him absorb anything that's skintight when he shifts to cougar and then restore it when he shifts back.

    Worst case, he could get a gadget, devise, or charm that could create a hologram/illusion of a simple changing screen (this would be a lot easier/cheaper than getting it to cover him with holo-clothes or whatever, though that would be more convenient). He could leave it on his belt and just walk over and poke it with a claw before changing back. Alternately, he could use an elastic band to wear it around his waist under his shirt. If the band is stretchy enough, it'll keep the projector snug in cougar mode so he'll always have it with him in case he needs some privacy. Might be an interesting holdout in a fight, too; nobody expects the cougar they're fighting to randomly disappear behind a holographic changing screen and then leap through it to chomp their jugular.

    As for Wondercute, they could be good for Danny if they can help him to get past caring what other people think of him. But I'm rooting for him to stand up and carve his own path instead of letting everybody railroad him like a pathetic loser.

    Arcanist Lupus wrote: Oh yeah, I noticed that Coyote is a Disney fan.

    He can paint with all the colors of broken wind.


    Maybe he can scrounge up enough money to buy one of the harnesses Babs made. Of course they switch to the girls uniform...

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    8 years 4 days ago #206 by Malady
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  • Devisor Uryuom Worker Suit, or something... Nanite clothing, or some magical one-size fits all thing?
    8 years 4 days ago #207 by E. E. Nalley
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  • A simple soul binding of the clothing would suffice, if you're willing to step into a Fool's Circle just to not be naked...

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    8 years 3 days ago - 8 years 3 days ago #208 by Dpragan
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  • Sorry, I sometime shorthand things in responses.

    Lets see how to explain "relapses"...to me it seems that Kayda sometimes has to solve a mental issue more than once (Or several variations on the issue) to get her to believe it. Or that is how it seems to me.

    As for the Author bit, that had to do more with my personal "teen drama-overload" circuit, being tripped making it hard to read, and not the writing.

    That and my own guilt at not being able to read through it fast enough. Basically making sure that you weren't offended, at my inability to get through said "teen drama-overload" fast was on me, your writing of it is great by the by. (I blame the teens ;) )

    And I'm probably still not explaining myself clearly. >_<

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  • E. E. Nalley wrote:

    Arcanist Lupus wrote: Oh yeah, I noticed that Coyote is a Disney fan.


    Not at any time, only when it was funny...

    :evil:


    Could be worse I had Coyote in my head as a Old World of Darkness Nuwisha Fan, emulating Old Man Manyskins. with a strait-man paladin/avatar that he was only partially inside of the rest of the time popping out to menace people.

    In the end reality is only consensual! It means that Al Gore is causing "Global Warming" by his rhetoric alone! Fortunately, there are enough Global Warming "Deniers" still about to keep him from boiling the planet.

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    8 years 2 days ago #210 by elrodw
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  • Dpragan wrote: Sorry, I sometime shorthand things in responses.

    Lets see how to explain "relapses"...to me it seems that Kayda sometimes has to solve a mental issue more than once (Or several variations on the issue) to get her to believe it. Or that is how it seems to me.


    You are reading it correctly. Bear in mind that Kayda is a teenager, and as I well know from my teenage daughter, sometimes it takes a dozen repetitions of a bad experience to get through that wall of stubbornness and make an impact. In part 4, Debra FINALLY got through. Well, Tansy did, but then the plan of Mrs. Horton and Lanie and Laneth stepped in, not knowing about what Tansy did, and as they say, too many cooks ....

    She got it this time. Promise. She got a slap in the face about "Lanie cares, Mrs. H cares, Laneth cares, Deb REALLY cares - I guess they do care more than I thought." Lesson learned. Time to move on to new stuff - and I have a LOT of cool new ideas. Drama? Yes. Teen self-doubt drama? No. Travel, meeting tribes, old tribal conflicts, friends who want to go along, pesky little brother. Little sister of friend and pesky little brother. Fighting demons. yeah, fun stuff.

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    8 years 2 days ago #211 by null0trooper
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  • elrodw wrote: Drama? Yes. Teen self-doubt drama? No. Travel, meeting tribes, old tribal conflicts, friends who want to go along, pesky little brother. Little sister of friend and pesky little brother. Fighting demons. yeah, fun stuff.


    The latest part had a nice bit of adult self-doubt drama :) when we see her stepping back a little and recognizing she does NOT have all the background needed to ask the right questions, let alone possess all the answers, when it comes to representing her people.

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    8 years 2 days ago #212 by Valentine
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  • I think you left off a few people...

    Mrs. Carson, Mr. Two Knives, Ayla, Chou, Hank (Hank cares about everyone), Ros, Sensei Ito, the rest of the SFL, and on and on.

    I still think her angst goes away just because she doesn't have enough time for there to be any angst.

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  • Valentine wrote: I think you left off a few people...

    Mrs. Carson, Mr. Two Knives, Ayla, Chou, Hank (Hank cares about everyone), Ros, Sensei Ito, the rest of the SFL, and on and on.

    I still think her angst goes away just because she doesn't have enough time for there to be any angst.

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    I think that sibling related shenanigans also help tone down the angst, at least the internal angst, yes Danny's issues have caused some angst, but that was more Kayda's sense of self worth than anything, having a sibling going through their own issues will help put things into perspective

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  • I did get a chuckle out of how, in between her denials about her ability to do the job, she was actually doing the job. She'll certainly benefit from more experience, training, and knowledge when it comes time to do it for real, but it's also clear that this is a thing she's going to be able to do.

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    8 years 2 days ago - 8 years 2 days ago #215 by peter
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  • There is so much going on here and that you handled very well, that I don't have a lot to talk about.

    But I will put in a request. I'd like to see a Danny story, as opposed to him simply being a supporting character in Kayda.

    Heck, I'd love to see a whole series of slice of life school stories that have no earth shaking implications. Just kids interacting and having fun.
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  • peter wrote: But I will put in a request. I'd like to see a Danny story, as opposed to him simply being a supporting character in Kayda.

    Heck, I'd love to see a whole series of slice of life school stories that have no earth shaking implications. Just kids interacting and having fun.


    +1!
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  • In my work queue, there IS a Danny story. He's not just a supporting character (even though we find a few interesting things about him in K10 P6 :evil:

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  • elrodw wrote: In my work queue, there IS a Danny story. He's not just a supporting character (even though we find a few interesting things about him in K10 P6 :evil:


    Yay. Does the happy dance.

    Danny situation is what I think of when I think of my favorite type of transformation stories.

    The gender swap is of course wonderful, but even more so for me would be him dealing with his full cougar transformation.

    In Cape High there is a panther shifter who each school day must spend one hour as her panther in order to acclimatize to it.

    Of course there is the little fact that the animal form of shifters in this world start out as infants. So her Panther form is a panther kitten that can barely walk.

    Adorable.
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  • elrodw wrote: In my work queue, there IS a Danny story. He's not just a supporting character (even though we find a few interesting things about him in K10 P6 :evil:


    Hmm... When are its events, I wonder... Likely those missing two days from Kayda's POV...

    Amalie + Danny... She's a sparker, so electro-hair trouble? Also with that Taeslin girl...
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  • Malady wrote:

    elrodw wrote: In my work queue, there IS a Danny story. He's not just a supporting character (even though we find a few interesting things about him in K10 P6 :evil:


    Hmm... When are its events, I wonder... Likely those missing two days from Kayda's POV...

    Amalie + Danny... She's a sparker, so electro-hair trouble? Also with that Taeslin girl...


    Phoenix has given me a TON of ideas and snippets to adapt and use, and I intend to use them.
    Danny has to spend time as Wihinape or in mountain lion form. What do you think will happen, given the cottage he's in? He has cat forms - how do you think Feral and Miyet and Cyberkitty are going to react to his kitty-boy form?

    There are bullies who don't like him, who call him gay. What do you think people will say when he walks around with six or eight girls hanging all over him, stopping him to kiss him before they go into their classroom buildings and such?

    And is Wondercute going to get him in trouble? Remember, Kayda is taking pics to send to Mom back home. What KINDS of pics? What kinds of things will Wondercute drag him into?

    Ah, the possibilities. (cue evil chuckle # 17)

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    8 years 2 days ago #221 by E. E. Nalley
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  • Danny is also front and center quite a bit in TBTBAE 3 and 4.

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  • Or Danny gets caught up in Adore's aura...While he's among his harem. Oh the humanity! :evil: :twisted:

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  • E. E. Nalley wrote: Danny is also front and center quite a bit in TBTBAE 3 and 4.


    He's also featured in a prominent (very prominent) scene in Kayda 10 part 6.

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  • elrodw wrote:

    E. E. Nalley wrote: Danny is also front and center quite a bit in TBTBAE 3 and 4.


    He's also featured in a prominent (very prominent) scene in Kayda 10 part 6.


    You keep mentioning that, I have to predict that we will get it by friday...

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  • JG wrote: Why does everyone find Adore so very fascinating?


    We, ahhh, adore her?
    :evil:

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    Dpragan wrote: Sorry, I sometime shorthand things in responses.

    Lets see how to explain "relapses"...to me it seems that Kayda sometimes has to solve a mental issue more than once (Or several variations on the issue) to get her to believe it. Or that is how it seems to me.


    You are reading it correctly. Bear in mind that Kayda is a teenager, and as I well know from my teenage daughter, sometimes it takes a dozen repetitions of a bad experience to get through that wall of stubbornness and make an impact. In part 4, Debra FINALLY got through. Well, Tansy did, but then the plan of Mrs. Horton and Lanie and Laneth stepped in, not knowing about what Tansy did, and as they say, too many cooks ....

    She got it this time. Promise. She got a slap in the face about "Lanie cares, Mrs. H cares, Laneth cares, Deb REALLY cares - I guess they do care more than I thought." Lesson learned. Time to move on to new stuff - and I have a LOT of cool new ideas. Drama? Yes. Teen self-doubt drama? No. Travel, meeting tribes, old tribal conflicts, friends who want to go along, pesky little brother. Little sister of friend and pesky little brother. Fighting demons. yeah, fun stuff.


    I'm aware of that, I just didn't want you to think I was being critical of you, when it was me that was having the issues. (I get emotional to the point while reading watching stories that I have to leave the room or put the book down for a bit...come to think of it I still haven read the latest Buffy the Vampire Slayer Comic I bought and that was 2 weeks ago.)

    In the end reality is only consensual! It means that Al Gore is causing "Global Warming" by his rhetoric alone! Fortunately, there are enough Global Warming "Deniers" still about to keep him from boiling the planet.

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  • elrodw wrote: Danny has to spend time as Wihinape or in mountain lion form. What do you think will happen, given the cottage he's in? He has cat forms - how do you think Feral and Miyet and Cyberkitty are going to react to his kitty-boy form?


    It would be fun to see Feral and Wihinape pushing Danny to work more on his hunting techniques. Starting out from Poe, that could easily land him too close to the Grove.

    Cyberkitty's high-voltage discharges would be problematic if she gives in to her own kitten mode wanting to play. (In my own head-canon, all the plumbing fixtures are mutually isolated and have their own electrical grounds. There may still be indicator lights for when one of the "Light Up Your Life" crowd is taking a shower!)

    Miyet - that depends on how much she's matured over the past year. She could be sympathetic, but maybe not. :shrug:

    elrodw wrote: There are bullies who don't like him, who call him gay. What do you think people will say when he walks around with six or eight girls hanging all over him, stopping him to kiss him before they go into their classroom buildings and such?


    Haters gonna hate. I wonder how long before someone gets jealous enough to claim he's mentally manipulating the girls, or bribing them, or it's all just an act to hide the "fact" that he must be gay.

    It still may come down to him being "more man than they'll ever be, and more woman than they'll ever get"

    elrodw wrote: And is Wondercute going to get him in trouble? Remember, Kayda is taking pics to send to Mom back home. What KINDS of pics? What kinds of things will Wondercute drag him into?


    Wondercute?

    Trouble?

    Nawww.

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  • null0trooper wrote:

    elrodw wrote: And is Wondercute going to get him in trouble? Remember, Kayda is taking pics to send to Mom back home. What KINDS of pics? What kinds of things will Wondercute drag him into?


    Wondercute?

    Trouble?

    Nawww.

    Kidnapping Alyss as part of the attempt to get her to join? Someone has to play the Cheshire cat.

    Danny's whining is pretty funny. Girls have been falling all over him since he changed. He's too wound up to realize that they're (mostly) not patronizing him about it, but genuinely attracted to him. Like sister, like brother. The desperate need to be bashed in the brains with a cluehammer.

    "Yes Danny...there are girls out there that are attracted to skinny, androgynous men. You don't have to be Beefcake Supreme to attract women."
    Someone just needs to point Danny at Bravo and get him to understand that men like that attract morons like Pucelle. Or have him watch T-bird for an afternoon as a parallel to how stupid he's being.

    Hopefully that would get the point across. He's even being told to join Wondercute and go after Misty and Lindsay. Only one of which is a ditz (and I'm not saying which!). Danny has so many options, he just has to accept that he's so kyooooot.
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  • Katssun wrote:

    null0trooper wrote:

    elrodw wrote: And is Wondercute going to get him in trouble? Remember, Kayda is taking pics to send to Mom back home. What KINDS of pics? What kinds of things will Wondercute drag him into?


    Wondercute?

    Trouble?

    Nawww.

    Kidnapping Alyss as part of the attempt to get her to join? Someone has to play the Cheshire cat.

    Danny's whining is pretty funny. Girls have been falling all over him since he changed. He's too wound up to realize that they're (mostly) not patronizing him about it, but genuinely attracted to him. Like sister, like brother. The desperate need to be bashed in the brains with a cluehammer.

    "Yes Danny...there are girls out there that are attracted to skinny, androgynous men. You don't have to be Beefcake Supreme to attract women."
    Someone just needs to point Danny at Bravo and get him to understand that men like that attract morons like Pucelle. Or have him watch T-bird for an afternoon as a parallel to how stupid he's being.

    Hopefully that would get the point across. He's even being told to join Wondercute and go after Misty and Lindsay. Only one of which is a ditz (and I'm not saying which!). Danny has so many options, he just has to accept that he's so kyooooot.


    I don't know Alyss might play the Hatter, She can hat people with the perfect hat rather quickly,

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  • Katssun wrote:

    null0trooper wrote: Danny's whining is pretty funny. Girls have been falling all over him since he changed. He's too wound up to realize that they're (mostly) not patronizing him about it, but genuinely attracted to him. Like sister, like brother. The desperate need to be bashed in the brains with a cluehammer.

    "Yes Danny...there are girls out there that are attracted to skinny, androgynous men. You don't have to be Beefcake Supreme to attract women."
    Someone just needs to point Danny at Bravo and get him to understand that men like that attract morons like Pucelle. Or have him watch T-bird for an afternoon as a parallel to how stupid he's being.

    Hopefully that would get the point across. He's even being told to join Wondercute and go after Misty and Lindsay. Only one of which is a ditz (and I'm not saying which!). Danny has so many options, he just has to accept that he's so kyooooot.


    So the bigots think it's cover. I've got an answer for that one. :evil:


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  • Katssun wrote:

    null0trooper wrote:

    elrodw wrote: And is Wondercute going to get him in trouble? Remember, Kayda is taking pics to send to Mom back home. What KINDS of pics? What kinds of things will Wondercute drag him into?


    Wondercute?

    Trouble?

    Nawww.

    Kidnapping Alyss as part of the attempt to get her to join? Someone has to play the Cheshire cat.

    Danny's whining is pretty funny. Girls have been falling all over him since he changed. He's too wound up to realize that they're (mostly) not patronizing him about it, but genuinely attracted to him. Like sister, like brother. The desperate need to be bashed in the brains with a cluehammer.

    "Yes Danny...there are girls out there that are attracted to skinny, androgynous men. You don't have to be Beefcake Supreme to attract women."
    Someone just needs to point Danny at Bravo and get him to understand that men like that attract morons like Pucelle. Or have him watch T-bird for an afternoon as a parallel to how stupid he's being.

    Hopefully that would get the point across. He's even being told to join Wondercute and go after Misty and Lindsay. Only one of which is a ditz (and I'm not saying which!). Danny has so many options, he just has to accept that he's so kyooooot.

    It's not that simple. Imagine that you find being fat revolting. You weren't fat before, but you get a mutation that makes you fat no matter how hard you work out and diet. People point out that there are people who like fat people. This is good to know, but doesn't eliminate the self revulsion. In fact, people liking you because of the hated trait can make it more painful, since they keep bringing it up and don't like you for the "right" reasons, etc.

    I am the kernel that pops in the night. I am the pain that keeps your dentist employed.
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    Bonus points if you're empathic.
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  • Kettlekorn wrote: It's not that simple. Imagine that you find being fat revolting. You weren't fat before, but you get a mutation that makes you fat no matter how hard you work out and diet. People point out that there are people who like fat people. This is good to know, but doesn't eliminate the self revulsion. In fact, people liking you because of the hated trait can make it more painful, since they keep bringing it up and don't like you for the "right" reasons, etc.


    But it isn't that particular problem, not like the GSD kids. It's the same issue Kayda has, thinking she won't ever make friends. Danny thinks he won't get girls because he hadn't already and if he spends half the time as one, he'll never get one.

    But he's just being irrational like his sister. He had girls that liked him in South Dakota. As far as we can tell, more of his friends were girls before and after Kayda manifested. Lisa was apparently his friend since first grade. The other girls in Kayda 9 are similar.

    Danny went from that awkward summer before high school lanky muscular physique build to "bishonen hot." The fuzzing is just a side effect that the girls like to tease him with. This is what he isn't getting. He isn't manly exemplar, oiled muscles farmhand beefcake, he's East and West Coast cities hawt.

    Kayda and Whateley are the problem. Kayda has been trying to sell off his gender swaps as not a problem, saying the school is a bisexual and lesbian haven (it is), or that he might end up with a boyfriend too. That's the problem. He is absolutely not comfortable with that possibility. He doesn't like being female, but he has begun to accept it when he is. Same with being seen as cute. But Danny is conflating all those things when they're separate.

    Kayda ruined his expectations by having many girlfriends, not to mention all the way, before Danny even had an official girlfriend. The needed acceptance is that it isn't that unusual to not have a girlfriend before high school, and that being farmland beefcake isn't the only type of attractive male look.

    Venus Inc would be better advice than Wondercute. Tansy has been helping him already anyway. He's just safer from bullies attacking him in Wondercute.
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  • JG wrote: There's a reason Diamondback finds naga-body fetishists creepy.

    Bonus points if you're empathic.


    "You're pretty." The assessment of a fearless six year old, was probably one of the first punctures in her self view.

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    JG wrote: There's a reason Diamondback finds naga-body fetishists creepy.

    Bonus points if you're empathic.


    "You're pretty." The assessment of a fearless six year old, was probably one of the first punctures in her self view.


    She's just lucky " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_Musume " Wasn't a thing while she was at school.
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  • E. E. Nalley wrote:

    Hardric wrote: Just a little question... Is it too much to hope that Coyote gets a little taste of point blank annihilation?


    Well, as he himself would say, "...I am Coyote and I have walked the spirit realms since the world was new and The Foreigner laid down Creation. Do battle with me at your peril!"


    Well, I was gonna guess that the Foreigner is something from Japan, given that Japan was separate from the Five Fold, and also not American/Greek... Instead of something from outside the universe, but, this is hinting that it's something like the Judeo-Christian God...

    *shrugs*
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  • Malady wrote:

    E. E. Nalley wrote:

    Hardric wrote: Just a little question... Is it too much to hope that Coyote gets a little taste of point blank annihilation?


    Well, as he himself would say, "...I am Coyote and I have walked the spirit realms since the world was new and The Foreigner laid down Creation. Do battle with me at your peril!"


    Well, I was gonna guess that the Foreigner is something from Japan, given that Japan was separate from the Five Fold, and also not American/Greek... Instead of something from outside the universe, but, this is hinting that it's something like the Judeo-Christian God...

    *shrugs*


    IIRC the New Olympians were the first ones to refer to The Foreigner in the Whateley stories... and yeah, He's the one that came along and messed-up the worship of whole bunches of pre-Him gods.
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  • DanZilla wrote: IIRC the New Olympians were the first ones to refer to The Foreigner in the Whateley stories... and yeah, He's the one that came along and messed-up the worship of whole bunches of pre-Him gods.

    Hail Eris?!

    ...

    Actually...I would *pay* to see an Eris-Paladin/Avatar ruin the day of the New Olympians.

    It's Murphy...isn't it?!!
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  • Originally I was thinking the Foreigner referred to the Star Stalker, back when it was only the Olympians referring to them, but yeah, now it's starting to sound more like they're a creator type.

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  • Kettlekorn wrote: Originally I was thinking the Foreigner referred to the Star Stalker, back when it was only the Olympians referring to them, but yeah, now it's starting to sound more like they're a creator type.


    The JC God isn't even supposed to be male, it's just that English has no gender-neutral?

    Japanese Myth has Izanagi... Ymir is the Norse creator-ish of Midgard... But we already had a Ymir ... Some Chinese Creation Myth might work? Options, options...
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  • Well, I told you there would be at least 2 "holy crap on a cracker" moments. This is probably one you've never seen, never would have guessed, and I know you are shocked by ...
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    Minor posting error for the story. Our beloved Kristin will fix it shortly.
    Guess I better shut up before I give away anything :evil:

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  • Hah! We haven't seen Jericho pull his "Oh, poor little blind me!" stunt in ages Probably because it only takes about a week before everyone figures out that he can see clearly despite his sightlessness.

    Well. When he was signing up for philosophies, Coyote clearly choose "Go big or go home!" I do hope that we get to see/hear Kayda explaining that little group therapy season to Debra.

    I kind of wish that this had made it off the queue before Please Turn Out the Lights. I mean, it was pretty inevitable that Kayda chose the way she did, but knowing the future drained a little bit of extra tension.

    Man! Everybody's just lining up to fall on their swords today!
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    Most of our members were present, and the faculty - to no-one's surprise - had pushed Mr. Two Knives into being our faculty co-advisor with Mr. Lodgeman, both of who were present. Also, Mrs. Donner, the tribal council representative from the Medawihla tribe, was present. In the spring, she had displayed great enthusiasm for our activities, and I, for one, welcomed her advice when I needed it.

    "Kayda's brother?" Stormwolf asked with a cocked eyebrow?

    "Yeah," I said glumly under my breath. "Lucky me!"

    "Lucky you," Slapshot retorted with a grin. "Your sister did all the paperwork to get you registered, so you don't have to!"

    I tilted my head to the side, turning toward Slapshot, and rolling my eyes at him, which only caused him to chuckle.

    Danny sat, and a lithe, dark-haired brunette with skin as dark as Kayda stood. "I'm Lynn," she said softly. "Lynn West."

    Emphasis mine.

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  • Hardsell discussing the benefits of enrollment? Okay, I laughed, but then I definitely groaned. Worse, I don't know which author to blame!

    Big smiles all around reading this chapter. See, Kayda? You do have friends. Lots!

    Tansy's embarrassing fantasies... :silly:

    Coyote sure is a jerk though. Kayda gets softly betrayed again, finds out the whole truth. He tricked her into getting exactly what he wanted, while shaming everyone else, including Wakan Tanka. I know that's his way, but he showed Kayda an alternative, and used her own good nature against her to confirm that she liked being a mediator and a healer so far, hardships aside. Kayda knows Lanie is happy with Wyatt, she knows she hate to see Debra hurt in any permanent way, that what she has with Lanie as a girl is what she always wanted, etc.

    And Coyote still won. He got his leader of The People...

    And then, she immediately goes and mediates between her two friends! Forgiving Tansy, returning the favor, and then getting Lanie to forgive Tansy as well. Proving he was right all along!

    Hate to love him, love to hate him... :angry:

    Paramount and Hartford laying it all out on the table felt a little heavy handed though. I suppose they had to, because they messed the three girls up pretty badly, and their meddling backfired what naturally was going to fall into place one way or another. In retrospect, it is a nice parallel to Mrs. Horton and Carson admitting to meddling with Lanie and Kayda, nearly undoing what Tansy had fixed on her own.

    Wait a minute...

    Has this arc been conveying that adults need to know when to back off and let teenage girls figure out their own problems, because interference is inevitable worse? Hmm?
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  • Katssun wrote: Hardsell discussing the benefits of enrollment? Okay, I laughed, but then I definitely groaned. Worse, I don't know which author to blame!


    I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. Nobody can prove a thing!

    Katssun wrote: And Coyote still won. He got his leader of The People...


    And there in lies Mrs. Carsons warnings about spirits, You can never know what they're REALLY after.

    Katssun wrote: Paramount and Hartford laying it all out on the table felt a little heavy handed though. I suppose they had to, because they messed the three girls up pretty badly, and their meddling backfired what naturally was going to fall into place one way or another. In retrospect, it is a nice parallel to Mrs. Horton and Carson admitting to meddling with Lanie and Kayda, nearly undoing what Tansy had fixed on her own.


    Indeed, and there is a time for the carrot, as well as the stick.

    Katssun wrote: Wait a minute...

    Has this arc been conveying that adults need to know when to back off and let teenage girls figure out their own problems, because interference is inevitable worse? Hmm?


    Hhhhhmmmmmmmm, could be...!

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  • There's one thing about working with EE - after a bit, I can't tell which bits he wrote, which bits I wrote, or which bits were an amalgamation of ideas. Honestly. If I re-read Riddle of Sappho, I remember we definitely talked about certain scenes, but I don't remember who wrote them. Same is true here - after a while, it's all blurry who wrote which, and that's because I really like working with EE - it's like our brains are synchronized. :evil:

    Hardsell - the Nations. Um, I MIGHT have written that. Perhaps. Maybe. Maybe not.

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  • Hhmmmm, Lupine and Danny.

    Just so someone can go "Cats and dogs living together. Mass hysteria!"

    Well Coyote thinks he's getting what he wants, but I am guessing that what he ends up with isn't quite what he expects.

    I wonder if Danny hung around with Hank and Mule more, that would keep the girls away. How many times a day does Danny take BMA?

    Lanie and Kayda "rescued" by the Outcasts, Mule, Saladin and Kodiak with nary a Posie in sight, OK Noms is a Posie. I put rescued in quotes, because Lanie/Laneth/Grizzly would probably eat them for lunch, and the first to touch Kayda would likely die gored by a Bison with a hatchet buried in his crotch.

    Oddly enough others that might have jumped to their defense might not have been so restrained. Megs and Stronghold, or TNT and the Furies, or Wondercute, or Jobe and the Drow, or Paul.

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  • I think I just definitively realized something, Hartford's "thing" against Ayla wasn't anything personal or directly related to his family, it served 2 purposes, figuring out his personality, and making him more defiant of traditional authority figures, SMI2LE needs him to be a progressive Whitehat mega CEO, my guess is when his application was received and the background check done SMI2LE, mainly Hartford saw it as a golden opportunity, as not only is he a mutant who knows how the Goodkinds think, but he was groomed from birth for big business, he was betrayed by his family, all he needed was the mindset and drive to deal with a system with powerful opposing elements, thus eventually giving them the arm in big clean business they need to make anything stick, if Ayla wasn't so by the books white hat inclined, he would still be useful as yet another prominent grey hat in their committee, or to be used by them, but the fact is, in order to truly do anything to hegemony, you need someone to compete with them that doesn't share their views.

    I mean I noticed this before but it wasn't so definitive.

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  • Kayda or Brandon...

    "If you find yourself caught between two unpleasant choices," the princess had said, "then there's probably a third, better one the other party doesn't want you to pick."

    I was thinking that Soul Split, like how Circuit Breaker had it... But no. *sigh*

    ...

    Evan's keeping Clover out of Grimes's office 'cause they can't be together... Evan + Clover Ship...

    Christina Lewis... Khrysalis... RealNameAsAnAlias?? *shrugs*

    Hegemon-stuff... It's soo black-and-white, I'm wondering where the lies are... Why does the Hegemon want control? Unless they're all sociopaths or something... Megalomanics? *shrugs*

    Lord Paramount! The picture! ... So, everyone has to see the picture every year? I thought it was only the froshes...

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  • Katssun wrote: Coyote sure is a jerk though. Kayda gets softly betrayed again, finds out the whole truth. He tricked her into getting exactly what he wanted, while shaming everyone else, including Wakan Tanka. I know that's his way, but he showed Kayda an alternative, and used her own good nature against her to confirm that she liked being a mediator and a healer so far, hardships aside. Kayda knows Lanie is happy with Wyatt, she knows she hate to see Debra hurt in any permanent way, that what she has with Lanie as a girl is what she always wanted, etc.

    And Coyote still won. He got his leader of The People...


    Eye twitching. This ugly little ducking dirty bag of fleas just spat some 'Sure, have a perfect life, you just have to throw all the pain down on your child to do so.' deal, and it has the nerve of playing paragon of truth and virtue? Suuuuuper. Dead.

    Hardsell discussing the benefits of enrollment? Okay, I laughed, but then I definitely groaned. Worse, I don't know which author to blame!

    Paramount and Hartford laying it all out on the table felt a little heavy handed though. I suppose they had to, because they messed the three girls up pretty badly, and their meddling backfired what naturally was going to fall into place one way or another. In retrospect, it is a nice parallel to Mrs. Horton and Carson admitting to meddling with Lanie and Kayda, nearly undoing what Tansy had fixed on her own.

    Wait a minute...

    Has this arc been conveying that adults need to know when to back off and let teenage girls figure out their own problems, because interference is inevitable worse? Hmm?


    Wow, I'm watching Hartford in action, and for once, I'm not feeling hatred for her. Heck I could actually respect here there, especially after clearly accepting the heat like this for the fallout with Tansy (and I find mhalpern's theory about her opposing Ayla to change her view on authority and the world seductive and credible). And I second that hard the 'just ducking comes clean' and 'ducking communicate' moral you sighted there. Lanie would have joined something like this willingly after all, and there is a point about the People having no future if changes aren't made (and of course, kicks in the Goodkind anthill are never a waste). Why manipulate your way in when you know the 'cards on the table' approach can win? The painting ruse is also a neat trick.

    Big smiles all around reading this chapter. See, Kayda? You do have friends. Lots!

    Tansy's embarrassing fantasies... :silly:


    Both fun and entertaining moments, nothing more to say here. Heck, Ironknife even looks frequentable now.

    But speaking of the sims and magic... How good of an idea would it be to say to Gunny: "Sorry, I'm working on my magic as much as I can, but I just can't try for direct offensive with the powers I specialize in. Given the way M. Lodgeman describes it, suicide would be a better option."?

    Aaand... There is him.Or rather it. And now I'm even more afraid for Kayda. Although I guess last part of this story will let us know how bad things could go on this front.


    Oh, is Wily E. free now? *gets a COMP out* I've got a team of demons to train for some godslaying in endgame SMT, and he juuust looks like a perfect target.
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  • A few things to note here

    1) Khrysallis is a bit/background character defined and placed as repayment for someone who did a huge favor for us writers. I thought it would be nice recognition of how much we appreciate all the volunteers who help with stuff that lets us write instead of doing character research. So, if you think Khrysallis is interesting, you can thank Malady for the inspiration. And no, I am NOT going to reveal the favor, lest you all line up doing favors and begging with big sad puppy-dog eyes for placing one of your characters as a background character.

    2) Haven't heard from Jarjaross or the others who think I've been so mean to Kayda. I promised that the self-doubting angsty-stuff would end in part 4, and I think I met that. I mean, the whole Coyote thing was pretty extreme, and I think ANY character would have been freaked out by that situation, but it wasn't the "sorry this" and "forgive me that" and "I'm not worthy!" that I had to agree was running on a bit. So - I wanted to know if those types of readers think it's better, because that's my intention. (I can pick on someone else, like perhaps Danny!) :evil:

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  • elrodw wrote: 2) Haven't heard from Jarjaross or the others who think I've been so mean to Kayda. I promised that the self-doubting angsty-stuff would end in part 4, and I think I met that. I mean, the whole Coyote thing was pretty extreme, and I think ANY character would have been freaked out by that situation, but it wasn't the "sorry this" and "forgive me that" and "I'm not worthy!" that I had to agree was running on a bit.


    I think Coyote was piling it on a bit high for Wakan Tanka's "Put me in, Coach!" play. The Bastard already had begun moving against The People well before the events of "Ill Winds" and "Buffalo Gal Won't You Come Out Tonight". Unhce and the rest could have slept a few years more.

    elrodw wrote: So - I wanted to know if those types of readers think it's better, because that's my intention. (I can pick on someone else, like perhaps Danny!) :evil:


    Speaking of cougars, it was nice to see cameos appearances from the Donners :)

    The thing about spirits being far more alien than they appear, or vice versa, is something that I'd hope the regular mystic arts program covers in some detail. Kayda and Mrs. Carson may know some of Coyote's stories but they don't know all of them! Even "smaller" spirits like Igniarli have their own points of view and can be very dangerous if either party makes too many bad assumptions.

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  • elrodw wrote:
    2) Haven't heard from Jarjaross or the others who think I've been so mean to Kayda. I promised that the self-doubting angsty-stuff would end in part 4, and I think I met that. I mean, the whole Coyote thing was pretty extreme, and I think ANY character would have been freaked out by that situation, but it wasn't the "sorry this" and "forgive me that" and "I'm not worthy!" that I had to agree was running on a bit. So - I wanted to know if those types of readers think it's better, because that's my intention. (I can pick on someone else, like perhaps Danny!) :evil:

    yes, this is a definite improvement. Hard choices are much preferred as causes of drama.

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  • null0trooper wrote: I think Coyote was piling it on a bit high for Wakan Tanka's "Put me in, Coach!" play.


    Well, sometimes it's easy to over sell things when you're preforming for an audience. Just ask Kirstin about opening night jitters...

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    Thank goodness...Knowing he was giving handies in the back room for screen time would have broke my little heart. :cry: But Mal deserves it. He's always busy doing something to make every one's lives better. :P B) :woohoo: :kiss:

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  • I forgot to mention earlier, because it kind of gets crowded out by the bigger stuff, Wind Runner and Pristine railroading Kayda into being chief again while she squeaked in protest was adorable.

    Wind Runner finally got her revenge on Kayda...primary liaison with the BIA at home and at school!
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  • question to the better readers than me?? lol

    I am catching up on WA year 2/2007 and this sideline bully that pops up "Dump Truck" that attacks Danny?

    is that the same old 'Truck' we are used too from 'TNT' fame? or a new '"Truck" by another name is still a bully?

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  • lighttech wrote: is that the same old 'Truck' we are used too from 'TNT' fame? or a new '"Truck" by another name is still a bully?


    Dump Truck is a Freshman, who hangs with two other Freshmen who call themselves the Bad Boyz.

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    but with my fan fic and other authors I write with and you guys now adding stuff like mad---I got lost---and no bread crumbs to follow, as I ate the cake!

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  • EE and I always try to put in little cultural gems - and nobody noticed, or has called attention to, the one that I thought EVERYONE would get.

    Well, we'll see if we do better on part 6 when it gets released.

    And I had huge fun with Tansy's fantasies :twisted:

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  • elrodw wrote: EE and I always try to put in little cultural gems - and nobody noticed, or has called attention to, the one that I thought EVERYONE would get.


    Counting coup in the sim? I think everyone focused on Gunny not knowing about that.
    Or the longhouse covered in birchbark (suited to the NH location, not strictly Iroquois)?

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    And no, I am NOT going to reveal the favor

    Thank goodness...Knowing he was giving handies in the back room for screen time would have broke my little heart. :cry: But Mal deserves it. He's always busy doing something to make every one's lives better. :P B) :woohoo: :kiss:


    Pretty sure I know what it was, and how much work it actually entailed.

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  • elrodw wrote: Nobody noticed the little exchange between Kayda and Laneth/Lanie?

    What this? "Ah don't know if that was incest or masturbation, but she's one hell of a kisser!"
    Isn't that a reference to an old time travel scifi piece I forget the title, but the time traveler becomes their own parents

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  • elrodw wrote: Nope, not the one.

    "She is lucky to have a friend like you."

    I chuckled. "No, I'm the lucky one."


    She's lucky
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    The bannister's banshee's lucky!

    Probably not what you had in mind.

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  • mhalpern wrote:

    elrodw wrote: Nobody noticed the little exchange between Kayda and Laneth/Lanie?

    What this? "Ah don't know if that was incest or masturbation, but she's one hell of a kisser!"
    Isn't that a reference to an old time travel scifi piece I forget the title, but the time traveler becomes their own parents


    I know at least two of them, but I think the one you mean is the one they made into a movie, Predestination.
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    Two paragraphs. 5 words of dialog.

    Eventually, someone will figure it out.

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  • Oh. I found it. Yeah, I recognized the reference the first time through. But it's a rather famous famous quote, so being able to spot it didn't really seem worthy of comment.

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    You also have a Princess Bride quote thrown in a little earlier, but that one is acknowledged as a quote in story.

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  • Oh, I remember that scene.

    Honestly, I feel like the more obvious the pop culture reference is, the less likely we are to actually comment about it.

    It's like we're commenting for each others' benefit on the less overt ones, in case one would normally miss the reference.
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  • I think somebody forgot to include a "read more" tag because it's taking up the entire page.

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  • Animal spirit things! So cool! And there's that unknown for that person...

    Danny's been getting laid, with who? Amaile's my guess??

    Aquerna's got a powerful spirit! That travelled real far? Or she's got a shard of that spirit? What's her Av rating? ... Could it be measured wrong, with her spirit making their test inaccurate?

    Kglitik, however that's spelt, how long's recouperation gonna take?? If he kills too many shamans, he's gonna have a problem recovering.
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  • Iwasforger03 wrote: I think somebody forgot to include a "read more" tag because it's taking up the entire page.


    I checked it a while back and it was in place and it still is... and I loaded the page a few different ways and don't have an issue... is it still happening that way for you?
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  • DanZilla wrote:

    Iwasforger03 wrote: I think somebody forgot to include a "read more" tag because it's taking up the entire page.


    I checked it a while back and it was in place and it still is... and I loaded the page a few different ways and don't have an issue... is it still happening that way for you?


    Sorry, fixed it and forgot to note I did.
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  • I was surprised to see so much of the detail in the battle from Blast from the Past repeated. It didn't seem like there was much difference in the perspective. I was expecting something from a more emotional perspective from Kayda considering the horror she and Lanie stepped into, similar to the way Kayda sorta runs on autopilot from her perspective of Galatea Debutante.

    Can't wait to see Danny's meltdown from his perspective.
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  • "I've had a few ... unusual requests, five this week alone," Mrs. Carson began bluntly. "Now while Whateley respects your freedom of religion, no-one, and I repeat, NO-ONE, is going to build any form of shrine, temple, altar, or any other worship or adoration space devoted to any other student or student's spirit, NO MATTER WHOSE SPIRIT THAT STUDENT MIGHT CARRY!"


    Picking and choosing which deities, or others, that students are allowed to openly worship on the basis of some student claiming to be an avatar of one of the now-forbidden deities is NOT respect for religious freedom.

    Mifruzli smiled benignly, folding his hands underneath the sleeves of his volumous robe, “As I said before, this excellent school’s charter does not permit the expulsion of a student on the basis of religious or political views.


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  • null0trooper wrote:

    "I've had a few ... unusual requests, five this week alone," Mrs. Carson began bluntly. "Now while Whateley respects your freedom of religion, no-one, and I repeat, NO-ONE, is going to build any form of shrine, temple, altar, or any other worship or adoration space devoted to any other student or student's spirit, NO MATTER WHOSE SPIRIT THAT STUDENT MIGHT CARRY!"


    Picking and choosing which deities, or others, that students are allowed to openly worship on the basis of some student claiming to be an avatar of one of the now-forbidden deities is NOT respect for religious freedom.

    Mifruzli smiled benignly, folding his hands underneath the sleeves of his volumous robe, “As I said before, this excellent school’s charter does not permit the expulsion of a student on the basis of religious or political views.


    Has the Charter been changed recently?

    There is a big difference between religious freedom and all the students who worship another student or student's spirit asking to be allowed to build a shrine, etc. to them. Those request are taking up a lot of Mrs. Carson's time which she needs to actually do her job. Plus if everyone who made such a request got a shrine, etc., they would clutter the campus and be no room for anything else.

    They can worship how they please, but asking to be able to build a shrine on school property is another thing. They can't expel you for religious or political views, but repeatedly badgering the Headmistress of the school for permission to build a shrine, etc. to someone or their spirit is interfering with the operations of the school.

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  • Katssun wrote: They are still able to build private shrines to other students in secret spaces in the tunnels, in their wardrobes, or other hidey holes, it just can't be a public one.


    The ban announced was on all such shrines, regardless of location or size, public or private.

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  • Katssun wrote: I was surprised to see so much of the detail in the battle from Blast from the Past repeated. It didn't seem like there was much difference in the perspective. I was expecting something from a more emotional perspective from Kayda considering the horror she and Lanie stepped into, similar to the way Kayda sorta runs on autopilot from her perspective of Galatea Debutante.

    Can't wait to see Danny's meltdown from his perspective.


    This was written before I realized I should write Blast as a standalone story. Then THAT got highly modified in writing, so I had to come back here and rewrite this section, so yes, there is considerable overlap. The way it looks to the author, Blast has more Carson / Langley Paulson POV and observations which Kayda doesn't have, and this one has quite a bit more detail from the girls' POV. Identical? no. Overlap? yes.

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  • I'm humored that twice in this story we've seen the moral of "If your teachers are trying to send you to safety, ignore them because otherwise they'll die. Don't worry, you'll be fine despite facing horribly dangerous monsters."

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  • Totem is one Shaman.
    Kayda is two Shaman.
    Bluejay is three Shaman?

    I wonder when Kigatilik will realize that he has bitten off a bit more than he can chew if he is just going to try to brute force his Shaman killing.

    I'm guessing Danny has slept with one of the older bi Poe girls or Superchick, or other older girl that follows him around.

    'Shine's been mentioned a few times, but we have to yet to actually see him around. I hope someone is making sure he is getting to his classes. (I wonder if Imp has spread it around that his hootch will get Regens drunk)

    I liked the spirit animal scene, two bad Ayla didn't accept. There should be no doubt his Spirit Animal would be a beaver.

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  • I may sound ridiculous and all, but...*takes time to eat a hat* Am I the only having doubts that Wile E. Coyote was actually the one taunting Danny like that? Not that he's not sadistic enough to pull this off, mind you, but that sound like something rather... well stupid, ham-fisted and counter-productive after the mindfuck it sprang on Kayda and Lanie, and it wasn't winning medals for subtlety or actual trickery there. Is it possible Hekate's Master or someone/thing else dd this to put a wedge between Kayda and her brother, and pushing her towards worst decisions?

    An Kayda could be getting out of the funk zone, but well, the fun is just escalating up for her. Escalation never stops. How much popcorn will we need for the fireworks?
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  • Coyote is exactly the type of person to tell Danny the exact truth of what he offered Kayda, because that's the way he operates.

    He never lies, but he intentionally causes confusion and anguish for The People so that they make the right choices and understand.

    He revealed how Kayda was betrayed by her own spirits because of impatience, showing her what could have been. But Kayda makes the correct decision, knowing she's still very close to Lanie, though a different type of love, Lanie is no less happy with Wyatt and Kayda with Debra, and In becoming Kayda and not staying Brandon who fathers the Ptesanwi, saved Debra more completely, prevented her would-have-been daughter from going through all the same suffering, and has already saved so many lives by what she went through. As a healer, as a counselor. Did things turn out perfect? No. Would Brandon have had as much sway in his hometown as The Warrior, and not as The Healer? Maybe not. Mutant hatred still would have happened, he still would have gotten nearly beaten to death when he manifested, the tribes still probably would have retaliated, and so on.

    So now...Coyote tells Danny. What does this accomplish? Danny gets super angry at his sister. He blames her. He already has been. Danny already had issues accepting what he's become. We're not sure what happens outside of Kayda's perspective yet, but we do see how it is resolved. Lanie gets him to understand that he's really more popular than ever. He has girlfriends. Plural. He gets harassed, sure. But he's got Rosalyn and Angel as friends, and who knows who has approached him for more intimate connections, in both forms.

    ...Probably Rosalyn.

    Coyote drives Danny to the brink so that he can grow to accept who he is, what he is, what his spirit brings him and the potential he might reach. Coyote's intentions are ultimately for the good of his people. He's just a dick about how he does it, because those he torments find the answer themselves through that angry dialogue. But they're the one's answering, he's not telling them what to believe.
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  • mhalpern wrote: I would have liked to see what animal guide Ayla would have gotten...


    Given Alya's connection with money, it would obviously have been a gold-fish...

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  • Astrodragon wrote:

    mhalpern wrote: I would have liked to see what animal guide Ayla would have gotten...


    Given Alya's connection with money, it would obviously have been a gold-fish...


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  • Katssun wrote: Coyote is exactly the type of person to tell Danny the exact truth of what he offered Kayda, because that's the way he operates.

    He never lies, but he intentionally causes confusion and anguish for The People so that they make the right choices and understand.

    He revealed how Kayda was betrayed by her own spirits because of impatience, showing her what could have been. But Kayda makes the correct decision, knowing she's still very close to Lanie, though a different type of love, Lanie is no less happy with Wyatt and Kayda with Debra, and In becoming Kayda and not staying Brandon who fathers the Ptesanwi, saved Debra more completely, prevented her would-have-been daughter from going through all the same suffering, and has already saved so many lives by what she went through. As a healer, as a counselor. Did things turn out perfect? No. Would Brandon have had as much sway in his hometown as The Warrior, and not as The Healer? Maybe not. Mutant hatred still would have happened, he still would have gotten nearly beaten to death when he manifested, the tribes still probably would have retaliated, and so on.

    So now...Coyote tells Danny. What does this accomplish? Danny gets super angry at his sister. He blames her. He already has been. Danny already had issues accepting what he's become. We're not sure what happens outside of Kayda's perspective yet, but we do see how it is resolved. Lanie gets him to understand that he's really more popular than ever. He has girlfriends. Plural. He gets harassed, sure. But he's got Rosalyn and Angel as friends, and who knows who has approached him for more intimate connections, in both forms.

    ...Probably Rosalyn.

    Coyote drives Danny to the brink so that he can grow to accept who he is, what he is, what his spirit brings him and the potential he might reach. Coyote's intentions are ultimately for the good of his people. He's just a dick about how he does it, because those he torments find the answer themselves through that angry dialogue. But they're the one's answering, he's not telling them what to believe.


    That's ONE possible interpretation of why Coyote did what he did. And it's a very good extrapolation of data into a cogent, thoughtful theory.

    It's possible that another one has Kayda as the target, not Danny, and the lesson is also quite important for her to digest in her role as Ptesanwi.

    I will leave it as an exercise for the students to guess which and what the ultimate lesson might be.

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  • Astrodragon wrote:

    mhalpern wrote: I would have liked to see what animal guide Ayla would have gotten...


    Given Alya's connection with money, it would obviously have been a gold-fish...

    I don't know, with all the money he spends on gadgets and how well equipped his utility belt is, are you sure it isn't a Bat?

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    more seriously Raven, specifically the sun-stealer aspect of Raven
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    The tropical fruit transporting aspect of them.


    Someone has to ask the question....

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  • mhalpern wrote: Swallow



    The tropical fruit transporting aspect of them.


    Someone has to ask the question....


    But that particular swallow is unladen. If it's not carrying anything, how can it be Ayla's spirit guide?

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  • I looked up a few spirit animal meanings, and the wolf would probably be a good match for Ayla - instinct, intelligence, appetite for freedom, awareness of the importance of social connections. It also represents a lack of trust in someone or yourself.

    Meanwhile, courtesy of the Outcasts, Kigatelik's out of the picture for the time being - we know Kayda's still around by 2011 (and likely 2016), so either it hasn't resurfaced by then or it's been sent packing again (presumably with less disastrous results than Uncheglia's spawn); while TWFKAH's Master has decided to play a long game with Kayda and dark magic - so it's likely we'll have further teaser scenes in the next few tales, with Danny being placed in mortal peril far later in the academic year or even later. On the other hand, with Danny repairing his relationship with his sister, affection towards Tansy and having a signficiant proportion of the female population of Whateley looking out for him (not least of which is WonderCute [1]), it's going to take some planning to separate him from the rest of the student body and prevent them trying to rescue him. Aside: we've seen interactions between Danny and Tansy plus Danny and Kayda - so far, he hasn't had much interaction with the other member of the trio - Lainie. (Stupid idea: imagine if it turns out Lainie's resistant to his charms, but Laneth isn't).

    Of course, now that Kigaletik's out of the picture, it's going to be several years before Uncheglia's spawn come onto the picture, and TWFKAH's Master is playing the long game, there's the question of the next threat. There are two mentioned in previous Kayda tales that could potentially pose a threat to campus in the not-too-distant future - namely TWFKAH and Freya, who, separately, are each planning a return to campus to exact revenge. Heh, maybe TWFKAH will catch up with her former Master and "show" him what she's been learning since leaving campus...

    (Hopefully, at some point she'll choose a new name for herself, so we can avoid having to do a Voldemort-style indirect reference to her!)

    [1] Who, of course, have already had the hostage rescue sim from hell vesus the Grunts (albeit a slightly different scenario)

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  • Ayla would probably NOT be guided by Wolf. He shows some of the qualities normally associated with Wolf, but the things he does to plan and protect are often done in ways that would be very contradictory to how a wolf, in a pack or alone, would work. He hides too much and protects his 'pack' from things, instead of working with his pack to make them all stronger against things from the outside. He could learn from Wolf, but I think he'd be more likely to be guided by Falcon... or maybe Elk.

    How do I know? I've a non-standard guide myself. Spend any time with new age shamans and you'd wonder how Wolf, Bear, and Raven ever have time to eat they're guiding and teaching so many young seekers of wisdom. Mostly, I can tell how much ego is at the table when I share that I'm guided by Opossum. Not that I haven't studied with others... Horse, Wolf, and I'm .... negotiating with Raven... but Opossum and I work together really well.

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  • Regarding Kigatilik, I have a number of concerns. First and foremost is whether Lodgeman will make a mistake and believe Kigatilik to be dealt with and therefore out of mind. Beyond that though, while Lodgeman and Outcast Corner were the victors, the war goes on, and the two sides have a feel for the other. Kigatilik is the aggressor, and as such has the advantage in being able to plan and determine the when, where and how - all very important, as was demonstrated by the Grunts earlier in part 6.

    I feel that this coming winter for Whateley is going to be preternaturally cold in general, with a severe blizzard heralding Kigatilik's strike.

    I might just throw a fit if events unfold without Lodgeman informing Kayda that an infamous shaman-hunting spirit was breaking into Whateley grounds. :-p

    On a final note, given a certain reference in this part, I have no doubt that an alternate universe story would be named "ElrodW's Life of Brandon".

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  • Katssun wrote: Coyote is exactly the type of person to tell Danny the exact truth of what he offered Kayda, because that's the way he operates.

    He never lies, but he intentionally causes confusion and anguish for The People so that they make the right choices and understand.

    He revealed how Kayda was betrayed by her own spirits because of impatience, showing her what could have been. But Kayda makes the correct decision, knowing she's still very close to Lanie, though a different type of love, Lanie is no less happy with Wyatt and Kayda with Debra, and In becoming Kayda and not staying Brandon who fathers the Ptesanwi, saved Debra more completely, prevented her would-have-been daughter from going through all the same suffering, and has already saved so many lives by what she went through. As a healer, as a counselor. Did things turn out perfect? No. Would Brandon have had as much sway in his hometown as The Warrior, and not as The Healer? Maybe not. Mutant hatred still would have happened, he still would have gotten nearly beaten to death when he manifested, the tribes still probably would have retaliated, and so on.

    So now...Coyote tells Danny. What does this accomplish? Danny gets super angry at his sister. He blames her. He already has been. Danny already had issues accepting what he's become. We're not sure what happens outside of Kayda's perspective yet, but we do see how it is resolved. Lanie gets him to understand that he's really more popular than ever. He has girlfriends. Plural. He gets harassed, sure. But he's got Rosalyn and Angel as friends, and who knows who has approached him for more intimate connections, in both forms.

    ...Probably Rosalyn.

    Coyote drives Danny to the brink so that he can grow to accept who he is, what he is, what his spirit brings him and the potential he might reach. Coyote's intentions are ultimately for the good of his people. He's just a dick about how he does it, because those he torments find the answer themselves through that angry dialogue. But they're the one's answering, he's not telling them what to believe.


    And once again my hatred for a character makes me unsee the 'positive' aspects of the dickery, so brainfart. Gut-level, I hate this way of solving matters, despite the obvious successes an how much I like seeing characters overcoming these challenges and their issues (digression: when I read Wondercute's defeat in the finals, I thought Gunny screwed up, not because he was force-feeding them a needed dose of reality, something he usually does with maestria, but because I thnk at some level, he forgot that even in sims, you don't control or even know all factors, like in Real Life. And frankly, the desperate damage control seen in Veni, Vidi, Cute isn't really the mark of a success for me.). I hated the 'I'm above your rules, maggots, and do as I please and rub your nose with it' and Karma Houdini tropes seen in antagonists like Don Buffoono, The Wicked Bitch of the Great North, Old Tansy and so many others before their so sweet fall (and rarely redemption), I won't like them on this astral bag of fleas, even if the goals are nobler... ish. Sorry, I needed this out of the system.
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  • Ametros wrote: I feel that this coming winter for Whateley is going to be preternaturally cold in general, with a severe blizzard heralding Kigatilik's strike.


    *attempts to resist the obvious comment ... fails*

    Winter is coming.

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  • Regarding Coyote's lesson, I regarded it as a targeted lesson to Kayda about the law of Unintended Consequences. As the leader of her people, pretty much every decision she makes, no matter how personal, is going to have a significant effect on the Peoples she's leading.

    The extra lesson about heading off incomplete information before it becomes rumor, and driving Danny's suppressed issues to the surface are just bonuses, but Coyote isn't the type to take any action with only a single goal.

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  • Amy_Amethyst wrote:

    Ametros wrote: I feel that this coming winter for Whateley is going to be preternaturally cold in general, with a severe blizzard heralding Kigatilik's strike.


    *attempts to resist the obvious comment ... fails*

    Winter is coming.



    Winter is already there.

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  • Ametros wrote: I might just throw a fit if events unfold without Lodgeman informing Kayda that an infamous shaman-hunting spirit was breaking into Whateley grounds. :-p


    Not quite - the location's described as East of Whateley Academy, near the Medawihla Reservation. Given the number of people attuned to non-corporeal planes at Whateley, had it reached campus, it would have been noticed as soon as it crossed the boundary wall (assuming it could cross the wards - it's possible it could have been spotted beforehand, depending on how far the sensor array extends beyond the boundaries and what forms of detection the monitoring uses [EM spectrum, e.g. light (visible / IR / UV), sound (audible / infrasound / ultrasound), radio; magnetic | ground or air]) - but whether that would give enough time to assemble a suitable reaction force before it reached whichever building Kayda would have been in at the time (never mind anyone else unfortunate enough to be considered a suitable apéritif) is another matter entirely...

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  • mittfh wrote: while TWFKAH's Master has decided to play a long game with Kayda and dark magic - so it's likely we'll have further teaser scenes in the next few tales, with Danny being placed in mortal peril far later in the academic year or even later. On the other hand, with Danny repairing his relationship with his sister, affection towards Tansy and having a signficiant proportion of the female population of Whateley looking out for him (not least of which is WonderCute [1]), it's going to take some planning to separate him from the rest of the student body and prevent them trying to rescue him.


    Odd that Coyote would pick now as a good time to jump up and down on Danny's insecurities, and remind Kayda that she still has family members to look out for, maybe even more than just one "tribe" to look for.

    As far as totem spirits go, and wolf's popularity, the modern wolf, dog, and coyote diverged from a common Eurasian ancestor at roughly the time modern H. sapiens entered its range. At some point you can't tell the stories of one without the other.

    Throw in a measure of mischief, and that could put Coyote pretty high on the Western and Northern Courts' *hit lists. Then again, he's outlived them both - maybe that's something for reborn Sidhe and Wakan Tanka to keep in mind?

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  • mhalpern wrote: I would have liked to see what animal guide Ayla would have gotten...


    Not likely to find out though.

    Dianne's decision to make and we haven't heard from her in a while as far as we poor plebs know.
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  • annachie wrote: Dianne's decision to make and we haven't heard from her in a while as far as we poor plebs know.


    I can verify she hasn't been in touch with the Canon Cabal (TINCC) as a group, at least.
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    annachie wrote: Dianne's decision to make and we haven't heard from her in a while as far as we poor plebs know.


    I can verify she hasn't been in touch with the Canon Cabal (TINCC) as a group, at least.


    I can state that I haven't heard anything from Diane since she approved me using Ayla in Wine, Women, and Ayla, and having him pair up with Adalie.

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  • Joe and I even hosted her in Atlanta once. She does not reply to my emails either. I think she's done with us.

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  • E. E. Nalley wrote: Joe and I even hosted her in Atlanta once. She does not reply to my emails either. I think she's done with us.


    I suppose we could live with her being done, if she'd hand over her chatacters. :(
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  • annachie wrote:

    E. E. Nalley wrote: Joe and I even hosted her in Atlanta once. She does not reply to my emails either. I think she's done with us.


    I suppose we could live with her being done, if she'd hand over her chatacters. :(


    Or say one way or another.

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  • annachie wrote:

    E. E. Nalley wrote: Joe and I even hosted her in Atlanta once. She does not reply to my emails either. I think she's done with us.


    I suppose we could live with her being done, if she'd hand over her chatacters. :(

    There are still too many major plot threads that need to be answered especially with Nimbus back in the picture, hopefully one day soon she will at least give the green light, before there is too much retcon needed to work around her characters (not just Ayla)

    One way or another certain things HAVE to be addressed, before it is impossible to address them in a way that makes sense, David Goodkind for instance timeline wise it has to be addressed Gen 1 soon, Nimbus gets stuff done technical difficulties may delay him to a point, but it would be out of character for no progress to be made for too long, and with how much Ayla and Paul keep in touch, it would be impossible for it not to effect the other story lines

    There's another big one that has to happen at some point in Gen 1, but time placement is less of an issue and that's what has been killing Circe's apprentices.


    Heck there already has been some retcon, we know that Ayla 90% has to survive to gen 2, as there is a car company with his first 2 initials and its heavily implied he's around

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  • Not sure why Ayla is worried, his spirit guide is NASDAQ (See old art in below link)
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    I get an odd feeling that a spell (that might be dark) might be revealed to Lodgeman or Carter while fighting against the Shaman Killer and she will be questioned about where she got it. Before she uses it against any bullies after Danny.

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    ... Thinking of [C] now...
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  • Malady wrote: I've only got 1 question. How is that a fire elemental??


    Lightning/electricity is usually ascribed to air, but fire's also good at moving electrons around - just using a different set of targets in the gas phase.

    From DPRagan's page:

    Or as Bek D Corvin States it's a Fire (Fiance Insurance Real-Estate) Elemental


    Arson's a reasonable way of making money off real estate, so yeah ...

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  • I think Diane is just suffering from Muse/lack-of-time issues with Ayla,

    I seem to remember that she had to pause in her stories because she was leaving others behind, so her Muse focused on other stories. I talk to her a lot on TtHM (Granted it usually about her current stories)

    But I can't be certain,

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  • Kristin Darken wrote:
    How do I know? I've a non-standard guide myself. Spend any time with new age shamans and you'd wonder how Wolf, Bear, and Raven ever have time to eat they're guiding and teaching so many young seekers of wisdom. Mostly, I can tell how much ego is at the table when I share that I'm guided by Opossum. Not that I haven't studied with others... Horse, Wolf, and I'm .... negotiating with Raven... but Opossum and I work together really well.


    Tsk.Wolf, Bear and raven are obviously operating franchises...:)

    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
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  • Astrodragon wrote:

    Kristin Darken wrote: How do I know? I've a non-standard guide myself.


    Tsk.Wolf, Bear and raven are obviously operating franchises...:)


    And what kind of spirit guide would a Brit have? Perhaps a hedgehog? If he's sentient, is he, by chance, named Spiny Norman? :lol:

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  • elrodw wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote:

    Kristin Darken wrote: How do I know? I've a non-standard guide myself.


    Tsk.Wolf, Bear and raven are obviously operating franchises...:)


    And what kind of spirit guide would a Brit have? Perhaps a hedgehog? If he's sentient, is he, by chance, named Spiny Norman? :lol:


    Don't mess with Spiney Norman :)
    And hedgehogs are cool.
    And if your Welsh, you can have a Dragon :P

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  • Astrodragon wrote:

    elrodw wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote:

    Kristin Darken wrote: How do I know? I've a non-standard guide myself.


    Tsk.Wolf, Bear and raven are obviously operating franchises...:)


    And what kind of spirit guide would a Brit have? Perhaps a hedgehog? If he's sentient, is he, by chance, named Spiny Norman? :lol:


    Don't mess with Spiney Norman :)
    And hedgehogs are cool.
    And if your Welsh, you can have a Dragon :P


    I thought all welsh got a sheep automatically :whip: :evil:
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  • elrodw wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote:

    Kristin Darken wrote: How do I know? I've a non-standard guide myself.


    Tsk.Wolf, Bear and raven are obviously operating franchises...:)


    And what kind of spirit guide would a Brit have? Perhaps a hedgehog? If he's sentient, is he, by chance, named Spiny Norman? :lol:


    That's obvious: a dormouse.
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    My dear little dormouse?
    His eyes are small,
    But his tail is e-nor-mouse.

    I sometimes call him Terrible John,
    'Cos his tail goes on -
    And on -
    And on.
    And I sometimes call him Terrible Jack,
    'Cos his tail goes on to the end of his back.
    And I sometimes call him Terrible James,
    'Cos he says he likes me calling him names...
    But I think I shall call him Jim,
    'Cos I am fond of him.

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  • reno wrote: I thought all welsh got a sheep automatically :whip: :evil:


    Only if they leave the Lambs to the New Zealanders
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    reno wrote: I thought all welsh got a sheep automatically :whip: :evil:


    Only if they leave the Lambs to the New Zealanders


    Mmmm... Lamb.
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  • Would Scots / Picts be able to have a Plesiosaur as their spirit guide? :)

    (Sadly, in our universe, Plesiosaurs are thought to have died out 66 million years ago, while a certain narrow strip of water was only formed about 10,000 years ago, so maybe not...)

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    As long as he gets his tree- fiddy!

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  • Wait... This was the story that mentioned 3 shaman-ishes right? No one's mentioned that Wendigo's a Shaman, as said in Part 5... Making the 3 shamans, if I've got things right, as Kayda, Lodgemen, and Wendigo?
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  • Malady wrote: Wait... This was the story that mentioned 3 shaman-ishes right? No one's mentioned that Wendigo's a Shaman, as said in Part 5... Making the 3 shamans, if I've got things right, as Kayda, Lodgemen, and Wendigo?


    There are several Students training to become Shamans, none are finished with training. Kayda cheated to become the Shaman she is, and Mr. Lodgeman is a Shaman. It's more probable that one of the Weres is third Shaman.

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