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Question The Final Trump
- DanZilla
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- Esar
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- DanZilla
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Esar wrote: I don't think it has been released yet ?
Soon, Grasshopper, it will be time for the caterpillar of written words to fly free...
- mhalpern
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Bart was named after the Dread Pirate Bartholomew Roberts
INCONCEIVABLE
Ok that's out of my system I shale continue reading
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- mhalpern
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blasphemy (in context it makes sense but the sentence itself is blasphemy)Whatever Pac-Man was
The way Zach addresses people makes me think of Harley Quinn saying "Mizter J"
..... If JJ was 21, he'd probably have made a drinking game off of every time he heard the words "And what did you score?" by now... (not even a third of the way through when writing this)
Jack is the "Phantom Highwayman" isn't he?
Yup called it.
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- Cryptic
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I am a caffeine heathen; I prefer the waters of the mountain over the juice of the bean. Keep the Dews coming and no one will be hurt.
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Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.
The Final Trump Part 1 comments
Faking out Blue Moon of the Magnificent Five, JJ has guts to pull this. Dang, thought they were in trouble for a moment there, Doctor Lucifer is their uncle, wonder if the Vic and Bart take more after him. Ah, just known as 'Uncle Luke' in the family. And the pregnant woman was Lark, one of his minions probably. Dr. Lucian Harrow, a process that made him permanently invisible, was wondering about the mask. And their father arranged breaking into the secret lab, don't tell me their dad is Green Mist.
Okay, that is both cool and a little mean to name the kids in the family like that. Eldest brother is JD, John Dillinger, JJ is Jesse James, Vic is Victor Lustig, and Bart named for Bartholomew Roberts. 6 kids and the youngest is a 6 year old girl, yikes. Ace and Lynx didn't tell DL about the kids tagging along because they wanted to see the look on his face, nice to see minions not afraid of their boss.
The Phantom Highwayman is a fellow thief and took off with their main priority there, ouch. All that stolen from criminals the Antares Group, nice haul. An open-ended personal force field projector project in the hands of those two, DL is mad! And a professional villains lair with that kind of set-up, nice to see someone smart about how they operate. And another nice base, Nick Harrow aka Green Mist, wonder how far back the traditions of this criminal family go.
Older brother JD disappeared, I would be scared for my family as well. Something that makes it hard to read the Phantom Highwayman's style, interesting. The way Latigo describes it, almost sounds like PH has Paragon ESP power, plus some Warper for the desolid/intangible/? Said something to Green Mist which rattled him, probably something about JD. A Dyna-Gem to nurture their crystalline breeders, amplifies energy, dang. Vic and Bart gave honest opinions about their dad against PH, Skeletor, yeah, it had that vibe strong, or Cobra Commander from the 80s animated series.
PanzerMech, Captain Ravage, Skurje, and Shadowmaster as well, dang, that is a lot of roles to take on. Not getting one of them is understandable. Both technological and magical security measures, whoa. Raffles, cute name for a cat. Zach, friend of JD's and connected to family, wonder why he refers to the place he stays in as a mausoleum. Friend who is like family. Wife named Mara who is in a coven, wonder why scrying wouldn't have located JD by now. JD a PDP, interesting.
5'4" at 15 and hasn't manifested yet, even though his mom, dad, and 2 known of his mom's siblings are PDPs, dang. Even his younger sister Vivian is a PDP, rare for a family to display the same mutant traits over generations like this. Ouch, Viv wanting to flirt with Zack but not being pushed to learn the Craft by mom to follow in her footsteps. Juliet Harrow, grandmother to the kids, and stern about not lying to family or about each other. And it seems she knows Vivian has been reading minds and trying to mentally influence other family members, scary skilled.
Critiqued the lie, teaching them, etc. Dang, it is like being at school for them. Dang, all that was given to JD when he wrangling those two, yet poor JJ thrown in the deep end. Encouraging rivalries between siblings, this family is messed up. JD used his ESP to keep track of the two little psychos, that is an edge many people would love to have. Having to deal with that kind of family pressure, powers or you aren't living up to your potential, ugh.
Using JJ's birthday like that, no wonder JJ isn't looking forward to it. Dang, I want that 'smartphone' he got as a gift. Great, Asha is a little 6 year old 'ninja' brat, using information to torment her older brother like that. Whoa, a fully cloaked 200 ft' tower in their backyard, now that is epic. Mara, their mom, is The Black Swan, oh boy. JD was planning a sting and 'graduating' to become his own supervillain, why do I get the strange feeling the Phantom Highwayman might be JD in disguise and honed his powers.
Now that is a smart disguise for a magic-user, no access to her nails or real hair. Yikes, nearly 90 but looks to be in late 20s or early 30s, that is some strong magic she wields, 15 years older than her own mother-in-law. JD there somewhere, but hidden in a way she can't identify. Plus she detected the passage of 'The Sea Hag', magical ship of Akelarre, a rival of Mara. Darn, going to Mara's father's for a family dinner and strict about definition of 'family'. Accolon, familiar in the form of a large black snake, yikes.
Good grief, made to dress that way to have dinner at his home. *eyes bug out* That is one intimidating old man and his dog. Plus should have figured a potion was used to extend their life and prime. Gran'pere, like most grandparents, just dotes on his grandkids, especially the younger ones. Asha getting Musette seated on a chair next to her, cute. Starting a criminal career during the revolution that founded the Second Republic, just how old is he! Claims to have seen Napoleon Bonaparte on parade as a young boy. But that would make close to if not 200 or more years old!
Catholics, yet practice Dark magic, yet nothing to do with the Pit, guess their is a line. Ooo, Mara knows how to get to her father well. Turning things on Vivian to avoid his daughter's wrath, shrewd and ruthless. Wizards and sorcerers since the reign of Charlemagne himself, dang, that is some history. *sputters in aggravation* JJ tells Gran'pere about what Vic and Bart did and his only response is what did they score, arggh!
Doctor XXX, that is a silly name. Know the other two suspects for what has happened to JD, Phantom Highwayman and Akelarre. Okay, that is a messed up history with mistresses if Gran'pere can't narrow it down based on those details. At least now he recalls her, even though his excuse why it was so hard is a little ewww. Suspect her, Akelarre has join on her ship and doing robberies as part of a Great Quest.
All that to ditch anyone following him, to a hidden location where he takes out an invocation carpet and dresses up as a girl, wig and all. And a spell to transform into a girl from the way she is thinking about herself, dang. And likes being a girl, hope she is a changeling when she manifest. A purse snatcher which she catches and starts to beat up and it is JD! I knew JD has to be the Phantom Highwayman, too many coincidences.
Saying he is pulling a Spanish Prisoner scam on an obnoxious punk from school. All to mess with the kid's dad who is a Real Estate sleaze. Saying she is doing all this so the family will take her seriously, all the crap he has had to put up with since JD disappeared on them. 3 weeks missing, thought it was longer. Proto-spirits, he got his new powers from a proto-spirit, that is reckless if not dangerous without knowing more about what he is dealing with.
Dr. XXX and Akelarre working against the whole family together, yikes. And someone on the inside with access to everything feeding them information. A poison pill in the mole if he gets psychically interrogated something will be unleashed, this is extremely bad. Trying to play those two against each other yet it isn't working, he needs to share, working on your own rarely works out in these cases. And JD has been using his powers on Zack, breaking the Harrow code, just great.
Staying at Zack's home without them even knowing, trying to get the mole to blow his cover by avoiding JJ. Latigo and Lynx going out of their way to keep tabs on JJ, could one of them be the mole or is this a red herring? Talking to mom about what was taken by Akelarre already, might hint at what she is after next or not.
Okay, Sir Isaac Newton was an alchemist in the Whateley Academy Universe, interesting. Nice details on the Law of Balance and Rule of Nemesis for magic, interesting read. So that is what a Great Quest is for, no wonder it is an undertaking magic users take seriously. And nice way of explaining how Great Quest work in simple terms. A variation on the 'quest' cartoons. Akelarre doing a Great Quest linked to a Theme Crime Spree, oh brother. Ooo, theme supervillains turning out to be mystics hiding their quests under the cloak of a crime spree. Imagine Batman villains actually being that, especially Riddler or Catwoman.
Making them think she is doing the Zodiac, but it is a bluff. The Chetwin Device, a mirror from the case with the Bull-Mask, and a pair of gold-clad, jewel-encrusted Gauntlets. First two have mirrors, would gold be a reflective surface? No idea what the next target is, but know the location it is going down. Hope this disrupts Akelarre's Great Quest.
Manipulating Asha into going along with part of the plan, JJ is good. Okay, Asha could go into acting someday if she wanted. All that practice and Vic is being a brat to JJ, clipping him upside the head only to get told not to bully his brother, ugh.
Gnostisophists, just the description of their stated 'cosmology' gives me a headache. Nick never assumes his plans are foolproof, rare to see in a 'Master Criminal'. Manipulating one of the Gnostisophists with a lie, too easy. A repeating charm that makes you read the same page over and over and not notice anything else, that is cruel. A lamp that looks like a genie's lamp out of myth, a mage's reliquary. And just as they are about to steal it, BOOM.
Nick as Captain Ransack, nice steampunk look for everyone. 'Tentacles' driven by PK, yet a backpack to make it look like the thing which drives them, clever. When has a speech about who the rightful owners of an artifact ever swayed someone, that was just foolish. The Mist, now there is a very pulp superhero name. Doctor XXX shows up, his back-up 'borged' and from the sounds of it taken from an extended care ward. Mistake messing with Asha like that, both parents there and ticked.
Yikes, Bart and Vic taking down cyborgs, brutal. Asha trying to scream to cause maximum discomfort for the adults, she is as crazy as Bart and Vic! Capture gel grenades on the cyborgs, which Bart turns on Dr. XXX. And Vic taking over a vertigo projector like that, good grief, never underestimate these two. Saving Asha, buckling her into the stroller, and padlocking it, bwahaha, priceless.
And that is some serious 'utility belt' for every 'family outing' that JJ carries. Able to get Bart and Vic out of the fray, which is when Mara summons a big black spider that breaks into a bunch of small spiders that bite the cyborgs and Dr. XXX. Arggh! Phantom Highwayman snatches the lamp right as JJ almost as it, right through the wall. Thought he wanted to end Akelarre's Great Quest.
Poetry left on antique computer printout, seeming to point the finger at Dr. XXX by Phantom Highwayman.
"Why don't you head down to the Krispy Kreme?" Vic said snottily. "Cops always think better when they've got coffee and a donut." JJ gave his brother a swat upside the head. "POLICE BRUTALITY!"
Girl mode again for JJ and a remote-controlled toy car calling his attention and directing him to an alleyway. Dr. XXX actually thought to use the computer paper to lure them into an ambush, of brother, he needs to update his tactics. So Dr. XXX is the reason Uncle Luke is invisible and Uncle Luke contaminated the super-soldier serum he used on himself as payback, old rivalry going back who knows how long.
The Great Pearl of the White Rajah in Springfield to cover the Aquarius theme, going long for this one. James Brooke, private hunter, no wonder he had such a nickname. Whoa, won't mind seeing the pearl myself. Viv upset JJ took a scrying pendullum their mom gave her from her room, when she didn't even remember having it before he mentioned it, good grief. The Chalice of Shahryar, figures it would go into that. And JJ gets to keep the pendullum, nice.
'Gum wads' with all those capabilities in them and a remote detonator, that is some nice tech. 3D printing replica of the Great Pearl, plus all that other stuff, you know these are pros. All those hired minions and planning, yet somehow the Magnificent Five all show up. Blue Moon, Silver Streak, Iron Ox, Red Frost, and Golden Eagle, nice group and hero names. Ah, doesn't wish to make the heroes look bad and wise them up to how badly he could screw with their teamwork. Doctor XXX, Robo-Femmes and 'ED-209's, hard not to wish to duplicate some of the better things from science fiction. And Nick is ticked, this won't end well.
Montauk Security, nice messing with them with the old spell on ID trick. Kage lives to fight and wants to face the Phantom Highwayman again, that kind of code tends to get you killed. A kid goat, he hit a kid goat, that isn't good. Does that mean Akelarre is in the area.7 goats at the rate of one goat per block. Back of the truck dangling on a short noose, Mara!?! Don't tell me that she was murdered, this is bad.
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- annachie
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I'm betting JD is making a power play and trying to take over.

- Bek D Corbin
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One, Vivian is a little over a year older than JJ. She got her PDP powers when she was 14; not that she just got them.
Two, Sir Isaac Newton was an Alchemist in real life. He considered his work with Mathematics and Physics as secondary to his works with Alchemy, Chronology and Biblical Interpretation. From Wikipedia's entry on Newton's Occult Studies: After purchasing and studying Newton's alchemical works, economist John Maynard Keynes, for example, opined at the tercentenary of his birth in 1942 that "Newton was not the first of the age of reason, he was the last of the magicians."
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Ah, got that mixed up then, sounded like she just a year older than him and only got her powers in the past few months. Thanks for the correction.Bek D Corbin wrote: Two things, Dreamer:
One, Vivian is a little over a year older than JJ. She got her PDP powers when she was 14; not that she just got them.
Interesting, I never knew that about Sir Isaac Newton. Thank you.Two, Sir Isaac Newton was an Alchemist in real life. He considered his work with Mathematics and Physics as secondary to his works with Alchemy, Chronology and Biblical Interpretation. From Wikipedia's entry on Newton's Occult Studies: After purchasing and studying Newton's alchemical works, economist John Maynard Keynes, for example, opined at the tercentenary of his birth in 1942 that "Newton was not the first of the age of reason, he was the last of the magicians."
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- null0trooper
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annachie wrote: I'm betting JD is making a power play and trying to take over.
I'm betting against his survival, because he's been played.
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- Esar
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The father went to Whateley but they have not sent their mutant children there ? Well, they don't seem to want anyone to figure out that they have children and even if they could be protected during their highschool years, the information would be discovered and then leaked after those years so ... Might be why.
No date has been mentionned, I am suspicious.
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Morpheus has made us paranoid! I wonder though if the dates really matter for this one though. So far, JJ is a baseline wizard, if he doesn't manifest, he doesn't. Might be harder to get essence, but who knows. I think we've been presented a nice setup, with appropriate foreshadowing, for where JJ gets in the way of the Great Quest towards its culmination, and claims the reward for himself.Esar wrote: It will be hard to wait for the next part. I really like the family dynamic and I am intrigued by JJ.
No date has been mentionned, I am suspicious.
I hope against hope that the cliffhanger isn't what it appears, I really liked the family dynamic as well. Mara and Nick are great parents to their legion of hellions.
JJ reminds me heavily of Kallie from Bek's Erinyes. Heavily. He's just a lot less honest about what he wants. JD definitely saw through it, and helps kindle it by making it one of the demands for the two meeting up, under the pretense of secrecy so JJ can keep pretending it isn't as enjoyable as it clearly is.
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- Valentine
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Don't Drick and Drive.
- Malady
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... But, the families are all isolated by city... So there could be a lot...
Nevermind... We know that the GKI has released their answer to the "iPhone™, the GoodCall". ... So, if the iPhone was released according to RL timeline, which Google says: "June 29, 2007" ... So, Final Trump is happening later than that?
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+Seconded on the JD thing but I don't think it's JJ as the mole. I think it's less of a "mole in the family" and more of a "They got the details from you under magical torture, then made you magically forget it so you could help them" onto JD.jmhyp wrote: I'm speculating not that JD is being played, but that he is being controlled. I think the Akelarre managed to get a spell on to him that makes him think he's an independent player but he's actually not. And thus the meeting with JJ means JJ is the mole and he doesn't know it. JJ is going to ultimately be hurt the most in the end.
Roping JJ into it is part of the plan, in terms of 'Trojan Horse information.'
Of course, it could also be that JD is going to try and play both parties, and try placating his parents by killing off Akelarre by getting the power boost of the grand quest to go to him. Victory earns forgiveness, after all.
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My guess is that Asha is the Mole, or to be more specific, that doll she loves so much is enchanted/possessed so that everything she knows Akelarre knows, and the poison pill is that if the killswitch is activated Asha dies.
Also I kind feel sorry for Mara, her father couldn't remeber which of his ex-mistresses who tried to kill him, steal his power and sacrifice his daughter to a demon Akelarre was?..... Just how many times did they try to sacrifice her?
Also, Yerunkle Pavilion...... Babs Babs Babs Babs
- Bek D Corbin
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Otherself wrote: Also, Yerunkle Pavilion...... Babs Babs Babs Babs
Nice to see that someone else remembers Babs. Now, if only Babs remembered us...
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But perhaps not fully Gen2, maybe halfway there -- if it were fully Gen2, I would expect a custom high-end phone with all the bells and whistles such as Jack gave JJ would include a Tavi-like VI.
As for location... they seem to be in a metro area, suburban part, which includes a city/town/neighborhood/whatever named "Springfield." That cuts the possible real-world choices down to what, a hundred?
- Malady
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Sir Lee wrote: Myself, I'm leaning towards Gen2. Main reason is a peculiar piece of jargon that I seem to remember seeing in Gen2 stories but not in Gen1... that is setting up something called an "ultra" on the smartphone.
But perhaps not fully Gen2, maybe halfway there -- if it were fully Gen2, I would expect a custom high-end phone with all the bells and whistles such as Jack gave JJ would include a Tavi-like VI.
Well, if it were in Gen2, I'd expect it to go in "Newest 2nd Gen Stories", but hey, maybe it is Gen2, but placed in Original Timeline 'cause of TeasingCreator-ness, if it's not hard to move the story over to the Gen2 side...
'Cause if its a joke, I don't think Kristin would want to make it hard to put in its proper place...
Or it might be on the edge of the Gen1 - Gen2 boundary, which, is some point between 2010 and 2016... If that's true, I'd expect some part of it, perhaps the last part, to be in Gen2, for the

- null0trooper
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The descriptions of the "old money" vs. "new money" neighborhoods, along with some of the snark aimed at the "Gnostisophists" (nothing to do with Madame Blavatsky, nope!) reminded me a bit of Philadelphia. Maybe along the Main Line? It shouldn't be difficult at all to get to Springfield, PA.
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Nah, they're gonna pull off the mask to find out it's another goat.Katssun wrote: I hope against hope that the cliffhanger isn't what it appears, I really liked the family dynamic as well. Mara and Nick are great parents to their legion of hellions.
- DanZilla
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Kettlekorn wrote:
Nah, they're gonna pull off the mask to find out it's another goat.Katssun wrote: I hope against hope that the cliffhanger isn't what it appears, I really liked the family dynamic as well. Mara and Nick are great parents to their legion of hellions.
It's goats all the way down?
Glad to see people are enjoying this... having read it all myself and knowing Bek's penchant for twisty stories... I can safely say that y'all are in for an... interesting... but enjoyable ride.
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I didn't mean JJ was literally "the mole". I was saying he'll be blamed for being the mole.Kaitha39 wrote: +Seconded on the JD thing but I don't think it's JJ as the mole. I think it's less of a "mole in the family" and more of a "They got the details from you under magical torture, then made you magically forget it so you could help them" onto JD.
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Madcap grinned again... "Y'know, Four-Eyes, you're right; I don't know what would happen. But then, I know something that you don't know. Namely, Smartass, that this scepter isn't my only weapon. Y'see, the University of Ohio wasn't my first heist. No, my first heist was the Gnostisophy Center on Waldorff!"
"Well, that explains why no one heard of it," Spence admitted. "We live in a world with anti-gravity engines, people who can read minds, super-sorcerers, vampires and power rings, but everybody STILL knows that the Gnostisophists are looney-toons!"
"HEY, my DADDY is a Gnostisophist!"
"Which explains so much."
Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
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Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
- null0trooper
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Schol-R-LEA wrote: As for Springfield, well, I might just know something about that... Fnord.
However, JJ needs to be able to get to a nearby Springfield for story purposes.
I found out in 1987 that one only has to be close to Springfield for synchronicity to trigger strange effects. Logically, a magically-inclined family would want to locate their operations outside the immediate vicinity.
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I like where this is going so far, although I'm hoping that mama isn't as dead as she appears. Also, the bit with the goats was hilarious. I look forward to seeing what was up with that.
JJ reminds me of Jordan Winters a bit.
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
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“What it means is that I’m stuck to this bracelet,” I held it up, “which Mom said would something something, the Rules of the Quest, something Apex Nexus. What are the Rules of the Quest?”
“A magical theory that’s making the rounds. I’ll explain it when- IF- you ever initiate into the Mysteries.
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- JJ as the unwitting mole;
- JD playing it straight with JJ, though looking to trigger the Grand Quest so JD benefits;
- Arkelle making JJ as who he is, and looking at the cross-dressing as the leverage that JD has on JJ;
- We haven't seen enough of Dr. 30 to know what he's really up to, or how he's planning to double-cross Arkelle, and JD;
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The Final Trump Part 2 comments
Do things with magic and leave no trace, who would have such a fool idea as that. Interesting detail about miasma, and yikes about attracting unclean, predatory beings drawn the scent of the miasma. Dross, that is some serious compact form for miasma in solid form. And all that caused by magical waste, no wonder experienced spellcasters encourage others to not rely on magic so much. Faex is nasty piece of magical waste, just how much damage could be done with it.
Six thousand liters of that stuff, good lord! All this to distract from her Great Quest, JJ is right, need to focus their efforts. Even the old track computer paper part of distracting them, Akelarre and Dr. XXX are skilled manipulators. Darn it, no desert for disrespecting his father, Gran'pere is strict.
JD saying he wasn't behind the human sacrifice used to power the magic, thinking he is the only one who could have pulled off hanging the poor woman with his powers. Ah, wrangling the goats, now that is grunt work. Only one not stressed out over everything is Viv, wanting to go to sophomore prom even though she is a freshman, wonder if that is just a front to distract from the truth. Ack! Poor J.J. having to do research on Never-heard-of poets.
Vic under the couch and Bart on top of a bookcase, those two need to learn how to hide better and not give themselves away. Dr. Helen Smart, wonder what she is like. Nice way to track down the poets' names. Though why would Akelarre slip up like that by using Athena and a reference to something she never had in any written work. Dang, The Stinger is one highly versatile energy weapon. Work in progress for 12 years, unless it is still unstable that is a long time for it to be a work in progress.
Okay, how do you smash through a heavy metal extraction operation and not pollute the surrounding waters, I would love to know who. And taking it down while looking like that, dang. Whoa, Dr. Helen Smart is a super agent scientist, impressive. Awww, poor Luke having a crush on Dr. Smart and no luck with the ladies. Intrepid ship of Dr. Miles Havoc, his wife Gloria Garland, going against a psychic who is nuts and thinks he is some sort of 'Mind-Priest of Lost Lemuria', sounds like something out of a pulp story. A gemstone called The Eye of Lemuria, can see how it would become part of a Great Quest. 'Reincarnated Queen of Lemuria', oh brother, hope it is all just crazies and not true.
The whole Harrow family [minus JD] and senior minions, this time they aren't taking any chances. Dr. Helen Smart is a mistress of Hak Moon Suk style of kung fu, practices Tae Kwon Do and Jujitsu, all those languages and areas of sciences, Luke sure knows a lot about his schoolboy crush. Bwahahaha, girl scout troop including the boys in disguise, even JJ shocked at the idea. Good, well-thought out plan, but JJ is worried he will be recognized and blow it. Ah, going with Panzermech, was wondering if we would see that identity in action.
Magic to make the look like feminine versions of themselves, plus to make some of the female minions appear smaller and younger. Boys aren't getting out of the plan easily. Yikes, looking into the iris of the 'eye' in the Eye of Lemuria does that, nasty little trick. Dennis Hawkins keeping up with Dr. Smart, how does he show skill in all those things, either mutant exemplar or paragon, or something else is going on.
Records zeroed out, could be he is artificial in nature, so many things Dennis Hawkins could be. 16 Pettabye Zip Drive, the amount of data storage on that, wish my computer had that much storage capacity. Research files on Professor [aka Doctor] Reaper! Nick teasing his brother again, ah, sibling rivalry.
Asha is a Brownie, Bart is a Junior Girl Scout and talking about needing therapy later because of it. An app to project a UV light to blur any pictures someone might take, dang. JJ is a Cadette and annoyed at the term and organization. Vivian going by Mindy Coughlin, Senior Girl Scout, even she is annoyed with the plan. Lark used to mug Girl Scouts for their cookies, thinking of the Snickerdoodles, she has good taste. Oh boy, having to act like that for the plan to go off, Vivian alone might blow it unless she is a good actress.
Having Dr. Smart focus on Vivian, smart move not trying to read her mind in depth, that almost always backfires. No risking the primary objective to go after secondary ones, the truth sign of pros. No getting sticky fingers, have to think of everything that might go wrong or could be detected, a lot of work being a professional thief. Bart, Vic, and JJ all cute as girls, Lark a girly girl, all those changes for disguises. And Vic complains about JJ getting to be the babe, even Viv complains about her hair color, funny bits all around for the disguises.
Dang, all those tools disguised as a teddy bear, clever. Asha can be a scary little girl at times. Even the disguised boys swept up in the excitement, Dr. Smart is a woman who lives up to the hype. An Ice Kraken, sounds like a real monster, after encountering such a thing I would be afraid to go out in the ocean ever again. Talk of 'hard light' formations, interesting.
Bwahahaha.JJ mocked Mythbusters' Jamie Hyneman, droning, "Jessie Wants Big Boom!"
Vic geeking out like that, he would probably be happy if he manifested and gained a gadgeteer trait. Whoa, The Stinger is even more impressive with the description of its appearance. Plus how all the components work in the different configurations. And secret for how she got it all to work with none of the configurations operating poorly. Panzermech and minions show up with a big BOOM, the girls slipping off to research bay 1A, Dr. Smart so focused on the enemies outside she doesn't realize she left herself open inside.
Impressive lab set-up, wonder how the scientists will deal with the girls. Ah, so distracted they don't even notice the kids go to work and give control of the cameras in the bay to Uncle Luke. 'Vickie' gushing over a piece of tech, priceless. And a heavy attack drone taken down already, The Stinger is one potent weapon to do that. Taking charge like that with that voice, Juliet knows what to say to and how to say it to get others to go along with her. Bracers that belonged to a supervillain called Captain Wun-Darr, oh brother, that guy needs help with his codename. Ahahahaha, nice reference to Captain Mar-Vel from Marvel Comics there.
Someone who claimed to have gone out on an expedition into the hills with the original Professor Wilde, wonder what this guy and the dull orange oval is a reference to. A flat gold disk maybe an inch and a half thick, 5-6" wide, sacred talisman, another reference I'm not getting, need to read more books or watch more movies I guess. Two more items I don't get the references for if there are one, shoot. Still interesting. Lloigor stone, tried to look it up and got multiple results.
Nice deception and manipulation by Viv, sending it away for a couple of hours, hope this doesn't backfire on them. Sending images of the guy's work on the submarine drone to Uncle Luke, okay, this might work. Having Emily take the girls to the main panic room, only to stop planning when someone docked at one of the other underwater launch hatches. Okay, who is this guy and is he going to mess up the Harrows plan. Volsung, he even has a script and alters it due to the 'girl scouts' being there, oh brother. And they are here for the Eye of Lemuria, working with the nutjob who originally had it.
Talk of controlling the situation and nothing can stop them, whole villain rant spiel interrupted by 'Panzermech's' drones coming in through a skylight they ripped off. An explosive under Volsung's cape, which one of the kids pulled that off I wonder. Lynx and Lark taking control of the situation, Viv showing how dangerous she can be, and Juliet pulling the pin on flash-bang grenade on one of the U-Marine's belt, Volsung and his men didn't plan for running into anyone else after the Eye of Lemuria.
'Vickie' blowing past the access controls like they aren't there, getting some of the 'candy cards' into a drones hatch, she knows how to take advantage of a situation. And slamming Volsung with the Waldos like that, ouch. JJ knows tech as well, turning a laser first into a general dazzling strobe, then into a vertigo inducing light. Oh boy, Volsung up and ticked.Asha gave a wide evil grin, eyes sparkling in a way that would have someone from almost any other family seriously considering major therapy, and giggled, "Teddy Go BOOOMMM!"
Nice teamwork by JJ and Bart, if only Bart could have used Volsung like a wrecking ball as intended. Heavy-duty vacuum cleaner to the face on full-strength, don't see that often outside of slapstick or classic cartoons. Ouch, Ernie trying to pull an Errol Flynn move and lands his butt painfully. U-Marines targeting Bart, yikes. High-pressure gush of water and then industrial-scale electrical welder into the water, that's gotta hurt.
Don't tell me the drones have been taken control off by Dr. XXX, that computer paper note seems to indicate it. Ouch, Lynx down due to Volsung, ticked off and demanding they give him the Eye. Dr. Smart and Dennis Hawkins show up, enraged he would threaten Girl Scouts. Ooo, Volsung saying a woman's place is in the kitchen, he isn't getting out of there without a lot of pain. Volsung deflecting the plasma bolts from the Stinger, thinking he is in control of the situation.
Whoa, JJ just took down Volsung in an epic series of moves, not going to spoil that here. Bwahaha, Viv and Lark acting like that, too funny. And JJ explaining how the device works to them and how it was all obvious, priceless. Dr. Geisten created something to extract proto-spirits from their hosts, scary device/devise. So basically it just depowered Volsung, couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Nice details on what proto-spirits are. And Juliet spells out why revealing the girls were involved with taking down Volsung is a bad idea, Dr. Smart realizing she is right thankfully. And the Stinger snatched by a green streak, ouch.
None of the drones got back with the loot, the submarine drone was empty, it was a bust all around for this job. Luke and Vic both jealous that JJ got 'her' picture taken with Dr. Smart. Volsung screwed up by not knowing the true nature of his powers and naming himself after a mythic figure. Drawn into the mess that is Akelarre's Great Quest, Volsung has horrible luck. Ugh, praise for all the kids, yet JJ did the most and nothing. Infuriating.
Oh boy, JD stole the Stinger because Dr. XXX wanted it badly. Things getting very tense. Ignoring a limo in an area like that, wonder why that is. Wonder what is up with those goats, plus why this operation is out there. He is bringing JJ to the enemy base and telling him to act like he is his agent in the Harrow household, this is bad. The goats were shapeshifting agents of Akelarre!
A thirty-ish dark-haired woman in an apron over jeans, unexpected for a servant of Akelarre. Standing harp [possible reference to Jack and the Beanstalk], and a spinning wheel [possible reference to Rumpelstiltskin]. Nice room, larger on in the inside than the outside. Very nice library set-up, wish I had the space for a place like that. Well, that is a distinctive look for Akelarre. Mask that can move like that with the face, definite magic and good way to hide her appearance.
And JJ knows what Akelarre is a reference too, that is just stupid to refer to herself as a goat's meadow based on those details. JD is a junior partner in her operations, how do we know we can trust what he says and does anymore. Wait, she wants the Harrows at her operations according to JD, that makes him coming to JJ even more suspect now. Bwahaha, acting like she is a girl acting as JJ's girlfriend to pass information along to him. Even getting Akelarre to explain what the riddle left at the Athena means, JJ is good.
Oh boy, having to change underwear after that encounter, poor JJ. Lines not meaning anything but meaning something, talk about twisting intent of the Great Quest. Baphomet and the other names he went by, The Goat of Mendes, The Stony Mill Devil, a gold-clad goat's skull, yikes. All attempts to analyze the skull have failed, that is serious. Held at the State University Anthropology department, no idea what her real target there is yet. All those things stored in that place, it could be any number of things!
"No, I have something FAR more dangerous that I need you to take care of. I need you to take Vic and Bart to the park when we go to raid the University, and if neccessary, SIT on them to keep them from going all Johnny Quest over this!" "You...don't have any unexploded bombs that need defused, do you?"
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Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
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JJ pointed at a refrigerator-like construct with a large open roughly rectangular armored chamber with odd disks set flush against the top and bottoms of the chamber. It had a sliding door and a set of rather cryptic lights and buttons.
how many other people thought, MAU?
Don't Drick and Drive.
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JJ is not finding much evidence of a mole, because every hint JD helps him with results in the completion of the next stage in the Great Quest. And now, JJ is officially the double-agent (or is it triple by now?) within the family.
Furthermore, each success the group has has largely been due to JD. He would know how to intercept the drones without much effort, where Dr. 30 doesn't use that style. JD can be the one phantom floating around to see how the plan changed to use the submarine, and swipe it from there. They're beating the family with their own tactics.
Did Akelarre really demand to see JD's mole, or was that fabricated by JD. "We're expected," is too vague because they're already allies.
Yes, this could all be part of JD's plan to take the Great Quest power for himself...but he wanted to strike out on his own, who's to say he isn't also betraying his family in the process to get it? The family's "reward" is finally being rid of two of their long-term enemies, while JD gets the big prize for himself!
- Arcanist Lupus
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On of the hallmarks of a good heist story is that nobody, not even the protagonists, ever fully reveal their hands to the reader until the end. So the question becomes: who's the one holding the final trump?
(see what I did there?

"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
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- OtherEric
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Sir Lee wrote: My question: who's WILLIE? From context, (and the fact that the only two mentions to "Willie" are in all-caps) I'm guessing it was a beta-stage name for Vic, that got missed by the search-and-replace because... all-caps.
I'm not sure on why they got missed, but otherwise that's an accurate guess.
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Right on the money. Yet another thing that you read and re-read a thousand times, and only spot after it's been posted.Sir Lee wrote: My question: who's WILLIE? From context, (and the fact that the only two mentions to "Willie" are in all-caps) I'm guessing it was a beta-stage name for Vic, that got missed by the search-and-replace because... all-caps.
I was originally going to call Vic Willie, after Willie Sutton. But my last-minute research on him proved that Sutton wasn't the mastermind that he'd been painted back in the 1960s, so I changed it to Victor Lustig, the 'King of the Con Artists', renowned as the Man Who Sold the Eiffel Tower- Twice.
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Bek D Corbin wrote:
Right on the money. Yet another thing that you read and re-read a thousand times, and only spot after it's been posted.Sir Lee wrote: My question: who's WILLIE? From context, (and the fact that the only two mentions to "Willie" are in all-caps) I'm guessing it was a beta-stage name for Vic, that got missed by the search-and-replace because... all-caps.
I was originally going to call Vic Willie, after Willie Sutton. But my last-minute research on him proved that Sutton wasn't the mastermind that he'd been painted back in the 1960s, so I changed it to Victor Lustig, the 'King of the Con Artists', renowned as the Man Who Sold the Eiffel Tower- Twice.
Doh! yep... slipped in a stealth-fix on that.
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The Final Trump part 3 comments
Goats eating everything including text books, that is just mean. All that to trick them into bringing out the Stony Mill Skull, must be strong magic for academics to risk an artifact with the threat of goats around who might destroy it.
Oh brother, all those academic types fighting to get credit, only to get attacked by the goats shifting form, ouch. Interesting 'minions' for his Shadowmaster role. Telepathic communication, direction of, and receive input from the 'shadowmen', very impressive. The shard in something that is moving fast, didn't expect that. Velociraptor, member in good standing with the Syndicate, another supervillain drawn in by the Great Quest. Hired to take the skull for Akelarre, all to get at her real goal, Syndicate isn't going to like one of their agents being treated this way.
Accolon is an interesting familiar, able to shift forms like that, rarely see that in most forms of fiction with familiars. And a scorpion form as well, wonder how many forms he can take. The spirits taking those forms, too cute, interesting details about spirits as well. Dang, Mara knows how to wrangle these spirits. Yikes, Kage is brutal when given the chance. Hehe, the old Tar Baby bit, that is a classic.
*eyes bug out* Velociraptor is deadly efficient, ripping through that one goatman like it is nothing. Goat blood on the Stony Mill Skull, uh oh seems like an understatement. Swallowed by the 'Stony Mill Devil', Velociraptor, we hardly knew ye. Sintholo, this is a lot worse than expected. One or two young scholars a year have died to this thing, great. Interesting nemeses, weak-point is its heart, at least Mara has something to go on now.
Having things sent to an address, all those 'personas' sound like they were taken from others who targeted her in the past. Fran Tastic persona, nice transformation. Oh crud, she takes on their personality as well, hope this doesn't backfire on Mara. Darn, Velociraptor freed by the shadowmen only to be swallowed again, just not his day. Nice 'thunder-gun', though the Goatmen not helping against a common enemy is foolish on their part.
Dyna-lasso around a heavy power line junction, pulling Sintholo off the ground towards the high-power lines, nice. Good lord! Ripping that out of Velociraptor, doubt he can survive that, Goatmen got what they came for and bolt, great. At least Sintholo's current form was taken down, a crystal like that would be invaluable for any magic working from the sound of it. Darn it! JD takes the skull anyways after all they went through, really don't trust him at this point.
Velociraptor survived, guess it just looked a lot worse than it actually was. At least Velociraptor has honor, not ratting out his principle without knowing everything. Doesn't use his blades on living targets that often, yet when he does he is a pro who doesn't play around. Ouch, sore all over from using her magic to take on Fran Tastic's abilities, that is a painful price. Dang, 3 days because of making a deal with Artemis, when it ends I doubt anything will hold them back.
Darn, all the kids going off to school and JD shows up in a car demanding JJ get in. They got Zack, that is way over the line. Ack! Having JJ's girl self go see Dr. XXX, not good. The quest has gotten too powerful, jumped the definitions that she set on it, this is epically bad!
Well, that is one way to get a lair on the cheap. JD saying he is looking for something to figure out if Akelarre or Dr. XXX is holding Zack. For some reason I get the feeling Zack is in on the plan, that JD is the reason the Great Quest has gone outside Akelarre's definitions she set on it, and JD and Zack are seeking to benefit from the end result of the Great Quest. Poor JJ having to chat up Dr. XXX, he is going to need therapy.
Cyborg women fawning over him, yeah, Dr. XXX has issues. And yeah, is this really Dr. XXX, a stand-in, or is something else going on, as his appearance was different last we saw him. Ah, voice changer and hologram mask generator, man has an ego. JD knows how to play Dr. XXX though. JJ is playing him well, kid has skills at manipulation. Another smartphone with a big red button to push, these villains definitely see 'Jessie' as a big prospect. And ouch, breaking into tears after being dropped off by JD, this is bad.
Having to let one of the villains make their move first, never good to let the villains make their move first. Inside the Magnificent Five's headquarters, this Great Quest has a sense of humor. The 'Ill-Starred', definitely an interesting name for a super-villain group. Meet at the heroes' HQ and have some of his minions disguised as PD Blues, oh boy. Blue Moon might remember JJ's face, play it as there to thank her for saving his beloved, sweet, innocent, *on the floor laughing* Describing Bart and Vic like that, I would describe baby wolverines like that before those two. And poor JJ isn't able to get out of this plan, darn.
Holdouts in his locker at the Y, the Harrows teach their kids to be ridiculously prepared. A superhero base that easy to get into, that is a design flaw imo. Oh brother, seen enough of those type of security guards in TV and movies. Locking up a kid for annoying him instead of kicking him out, bet that wouldn't go over well with his employers. Proctor, security guard, gets his ass reamed by the real chief of Security, good to hear he isn't the main guy in charge of security. Pendulum reacting that strongly, want to bet the villains show up in the middle of all this despite Nick thinking he was smart to go in before they acted.
Ah, good to know about security guards and handcuffs or binders, Proctor is an idiot! Locked JJ up just because he asked who he had to talk to to get in touch with Blue Moon. Blue Moon or Iron Ox has the latest shard piece on them, things just got more complicated. Reacting to Iron Ox, weird. Dang, Nick playing Golden Eagle, just how did he do that. All that, his dad making the heroes helpless and Phantom Highwayman showing up, sounds like the Great Quest messing with them again or JD perhaps.
Shadowmaster and his shadowmen showing up, all this to bait Phantom Highwayman from the sounds of it. Dr. XXX and minions show up as well, good grief! 'Darby', wonder if he is a plant by one of the other players in this mess. A shapeshifter named Redux, this is going to be a confusing fight. And from the looks of things, a power mimic as well, taking down all sides that fast. Four others, it is the Ill-Starred after their teammates power gem! Stampede for Taurus symbol charging Iron Ox, ouch.
Venomous, Chiron, at least they thought about their codenames. Cozzare for Aries, and a speedster, this super-villain team has a nice mix of powers. Arrrgggh! Proctor is an arrogant ass, taking Iron Ox's harness and using it himself. And the idiot doesn't even know how to control that kind of strength. Ouch, GE hit from multiple sides. Dr. XXX having trouble using Dr. Smart's Stinger, foolish to steal it without any idea of how to get it to work like the owner does.
Good grief, this is a major melee and Iron Ox's harness keeps getting passed around so much, it would drive a sports announcer nuts to keep up. Darn it! Dr. XXX, his minions and Phantom Highwayman teleported out. What happened to Blue Moon in all this, at least the harness was only a power focus for Iron Ox and not his source of power. Oh boy, The Ill-Starred upgrading for a more brutal beatdown.
JJ distracting them, nice. Bwahahaha, using the coffee with non-dairy creamer to blind and slip-up Cozzare, JJ just a great sense of humor even in a fight like this. Using the lab's waldos to smash up Stampede, JJ gets a lot of use out of things in his environment. Soda and Mentos to the face, loving the level of slapstick in this fight. Bwahaha, after what JJ has already done, I wouldn't want to see what that mix of stuff with vinegar does. *holding sides*
"It makes for a very tasty salad dressing-or not," JJ answered. "What am I, Bill Nye the Science Guy?"
Cozzare, Chiron, and Venomous tied up without their power gems. And Blue Moon shows up, only to get KO'ed by JJ, revealing it is Redux who didn't recognize him and called him kid. JJ knows how to put the facts together fast. And yeah, they yelled the Gravity Jewel's name out a lot.
Upset with JJ for being called a crime fighter, *sigh*, can't win either way. Eep, called by all 3 names, dad is very upset. Ack! Having to break the Ill-Starred out of jail and get their power gems back for them in order to maintain good faith. JJ is getting reamed here, can't even clock Vic for riding him over this mess. Blaming JJ for not seeing the next clue, oh brother, they failed and left him holding the bag and yet he is the one to blame for it all. Family trip to the Onsen and JJ has to wrangle Bart and Vic, just because he doesn't have powers they treat him poorly, starting to get ticked at JJ's family for how they treat him after all he has done.
Shuttle didn't show up, JJ being watched, as if things can't get worse for the poor kid. Just what is chasing JJ, an unseen threat that has him running for his life. A long town car limo shows up and whatever was chasing him shoves him into the rear compartment, oh...boy. Akelarre used a djinn to chase him down, yikes. *eyes bug out* She knew all along that JJ was just disguised as a girl, things just hit the fan.
Trying to get Akelarre to believe Phantom Highwayman will show up to save him, JJ is playing a dangerous game. Bluffing her like this, hope she doesn't have a way of figuring out the truth of JJ's words. Offers to make JJ a bargain and he rejects outright, stating the history he has been told about what happened between Mara and Gran'pere. Akelarre saying it was all a misunderstanding on his mother's part over what was happening that night from the sounds of it.
A bargain to pass along the clues she provides and actively assist her in completing the Great Quest, yikes. Offering all that and promising to make his fondest wish come true, uh oh. Offers to make his illusion reality, whoa. A way to instill an Exemplar trait that high level into a non-mutant, that is a game changer! Paragon Potion to repair all the damage to her body, sounds like a legendary elixir. Healing methods starting to conflict with each other, no wonder she is risking this Great Quest.
Multiple doses of the Paragon Potion, offering it to the others working with her, she is desperate to risk Dr. XXX's wrath if it does conflict with his Super-Soldier process that deformed him. Last 21 years, tempting JJ with arranging his own Great Quest to re-create the Paragon Potion, eep. Sacrifice of the Goat, guessing it isn't a goat, might even be Zack or Nick, this is very bad.
Diogenes' Three-fold Quest to let JJ know if Akelarre is lying to him, good thing he isn't trusting her. Sorcerer's Contract for the deal, noooo! Sacrifice of the Goat is going to be Zack, I just know it now. He wasn't in on it at all and is going to die at this rate, at least if what i suspect is true. Sorcerer's Contract sealed in blood, plus ring snatched from him right as he left the ring, what have you done, JJ.
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JJ had been right- the warehouse was a rat’s nest. Mara looked at the layout of the storage area and saw three of the banes of modern Academia at work: Tight Budgets, Interdepartmental Rivalry, and Issue Faddism. First Nations issues tended to fade in and out of fashion, as the question of whether Anthropologists were exalting or exploiting the cultures they studied waxed and waned. The warehouse smelled of dust, paper, mold and apathy.
Mara was dressed to intimidate, with the ultimate symbols of authority: a dark wig with a severe hairstyle, thick unflattering glasses, a lab coat, an ID badge, and a clipboard. Looking disgusted at the pendulum in her hand, she said to her husband (via cell phone in her other hand), [liberally translated from the original French], “It’s no use, Nick darling! I can’t get a firm fix on anything, because there are too many items of trivial magical significance tucked away here and there! It’s like trying to find one conversation in the middle of a convention of gossipy teenage girls! And the maddening thing is that I’ll bet that nothing here is worth the risk of trying to sneak out.”
Nice descriptions!
[Spirits]
Okay... Very informative... We know soo little about the world! Eeee! Spirit Density is enormous! ... Avatar with Library Spirit... Superpowered could be an Dresden Files Archive-expy... Papermasters, other bookgirls... Bookboys are a rare breed...
[Olympian]
Oh. So it's generalized Non-Chthonic or something... Lightning counts...
JJ needed to get deeper into the M5 building to dowse for the location of the shard. The quickest way to get out of the PR section and into the Security section was to annoy this doink until he threw JJ into a holding cell. There was no way that this yutz would simply toss JJ out on his ear. No, the only just punishment for the grievous crime of yanking his chain was HARD TIME!
So, let’s take that as read, shall we?
Nice nod at the fans' usual reactions to skips in action. Like the initial response to Esoteric 1.1.
Even if I'm wrong, it's a pretty smooth turn of phrase! Congrats!
“The Gravity Jewel!” Dr. XXX grated out. “GET IT!” Why he shouted, when he could have sent that message on a tight-band encrypted communications link? Who knows? Anyway, the She-Borgs and the Spiderbots broke off and swarmed in ‘Darby’s’ direction.
Mmm...
[Artemis]
... What. Is it like Olympians Artemis???
“ahem!” JJ cleared his throat professorially. “‘SHE’ didn’t recognize me. She called me ‘Kid’. And after all this, the real Blue Moon’s first reaction would have been to make sure that I was all right, not ask how I pulled off a stupid trick. Also, what are the chances that after getting knocked out of the fight first, that Blue Moon would show up just as a power and appearance copier drops out of sight? Also, let’s face it, Blue Moon would be the perfect person to impersonate and use her powers to cover the fact that he’d just swiped the Gravity Jewel.”
“How’d you know about the Gravity Jewel?” Santangelo asked suspiciously.
“Excuse me? You guys only yelled its name about a thousand times!”
I know, right?
“You have nothing I need, and I grew up hearing that you should never try to cut a deal with the devil. Any deal I cut with you would come back and bite my ass off. You hate my mother and grandfather, and screwing me over would probably be your idea of big joke,” JJ finished decisively.
“I don’t hate your mother or grandfather. Indeed,” she smirked, “your Gran’Pere and I were very close at one time.”
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Akelarre let out a snort and muttered something in Spanish. JJ’s French was good enough that he caught a wryly amused crack about the French and their addiction to High Melodrama. Shooting an amused look in JJ’s direction, she said, “First of all, there was far more going on that night than your mother tells you; more even than she knows. She was, after all, a naïve inexperienced girl just out of the convent. She panicked and read all sorts of terrible things into what was… well, maybe not innocent, but hardly diabolical! Second, your mother makes a grand vendetta out of what was nothing more than what she did to others. It was merely business as usual among the Wise. The Occult is not for delicate flowers. And lastly, as for that ‘eighty years without a win’ tripe- over the years, I’ve won a number of victories over your mother.” She gave a wicked lopsided grin. “Some of which she even knows about.”
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“Akelarre, if you’re offering to be my Fairy Godmother, I think that you should know that my mother makes my little sister keep a piece of cold iron on her at all times. We know way too much about the Good Neighbors to accept that kind of offer.”
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“Do you know what an ‘Exemplar’ is?”
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JJ balked at that, but eventually said politicly, “It’s rude- and dangerous- to ask a lady her age,” He left the addendum, ‘and the greater her age, the more dangerous it is’ unsaid.
“I’m OLD, boy,” she said with a flat unamused voice. “I didn’t live a quiet, sedate or temperate life when I was younger. I’ve damaged my body with rich food, smoke, drink, drugs and extravagance. Others have damaged my body with poisons, bullets, blades, bludgeons, drowning and one drop from a 300-foot high bridge. Nature has damaged my body with disease, cold, heat, dehydration, venom and toxic mold. I schemed for over FIFTY YEARS to discover the secret of your grandfather’s life-extending process, only to learn that it doesn’t restore the body, but merely traps the body in its existing form, shielding it from the effects of toxins, trauma and time. By the time I managed to wring its secret from one of his old assistants, it was too late!”
Cool infodump! Wanting to stave away death. Anyone can understand that...
Hmm... If Grand-pere and Akelarre were involved with what was going on that night... Some Inheritance Transfer spell? Allowing Mara to get Akalarre's inheritance, and JJ's grandmother might have been Akalarre if Mara didn't screw things up?
Grand-pere might have been a Casanova who settled down with whoever didn't kill him, or something??
“How long does the Paragon Potion last?” JJ asked. “The Rule of Cyclicality states that every working has a beginning, a middle and an end. I mean, if it only lasts for a year, then that’s great for you and Dr. 30- assuming that it doesn’t tear him apart- as a year’s long enough to heal, well, if not all the damage to your bodies, then at least most of it. But the Highwayman is sort of getting shafted, what with only being superhuman for a year; just long enough to get used to it.”
The Exemplar BIT is sorta gonna stay stuck there? Unless it does apply and actually does manage to rip it off... Which would be amazing...
What is the Goat???? Also, no promise of Paragon Potion, it's a promise of Heart's Desire...
So, this is gonna be 4(+?) parts... And what's gonna happen to the family after all this is over??
JJ's family isn't the best, but, compared to other families, is better than the worst...
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To top all of this off he might end up the white sheep of the family before this is through due to some karmic law.
...But that's just my guess,
In the end reality is only consensual! It means that Al Gore is causing "Global Warming" by his rhetoric alone! Fortunately, there are enough Global Warming "Deniers" still about to keep him from boiling the planet.
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- Arcanist Lupus
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Dreamer wrote: Diogenes' Three-fold Quest to let JJ know if Akelarre is lying to him, good thing he isn't trusting her. Sorcerer's Contract for the deal, noooo! Sacrifice of the Goat is going to be Zack, I just know it now. He wasn't in on it at all and is going to die at this rate, at least if what i suspect is true. Sorcerer's Contract sealed in blood, plus ring snatched from him right as he left the ring, what have you done, JJ.
I have to disagree with you there. Akelarre almost certainly plans to use JJ as the Sacrifice of the Goat, (although that is not to say that Zack might not make a suitable substitute in a pinch).
So, either JJ's desire to be a real girl is strong enough to squelch every last living brain cell in their possession, or else JJ has prepared quite a trick. Akelarre's side of the Contract evaporates on JJ's death. But JJ is the one who worded Akelarre's side of the contract, and I'd bet doughnuts and dachshunds that he chose that wording intentionally. By leaving a loophole you could drive a truck through, he kept her from trying to find other ways of wiggling through the Contract. Does anybody here remember reading Artemis Fowl? He pulled the same stunt. By letting the opposing side believe they've outsmarted you, you get to choose their end goal without them ever realizing that you're controlling the flow of the story.
All JJ needs is a way dodging his sacrificial obligation. Some kind of final trump card, perhaps?
Now, as to what that trump could be, I have no clue. I'll bet that it's related to that tearburst after her last contact with JD, though. That could be just the strain of being a go-between, or finding out that Zach was in danger. But I'm guessing that there's more to it than that.
Incidentally, are Spanish and French really similar enough that an understanding of one allows a partial translation of the other?
Akelarre let out a snort and muttered something in Spanish. JJ’s French was good enough that he caught a wryly amused crack about the French and their addiction to High Melodrama.
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
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Arcanist Lupus wrote:
Dreamer wrote: Diogenes' Three-fold Quest to let JJ know if Akelarre is lying to him, good thing he isn't trusting her. Sorcerer's Contract for the deal, noooo! Sacrifice of the Goat is going to be Zack, I just know it now. He wasn't in on it at all and is going to die at this rate, at least if what i suspect is true. Sorcerer's Contract sealed in blood, plus ring snatched from him right as he left the ring, what have you done, JJ.
I have to disagree with you there. Akelarre almost certainly plans to use JJ as the Sacrifice of the Goat, (although that is not to say that Zack might not make a suitable substitute in a pinch).
So, either JJ's desire to be a real girl is strong enough to squelch every last living brain cell in their possession, or else JJ has prepared quite a trick. Akelarre's side of the Contract evaporates on JJ's death. But JJ is the one who worded Akelarre's side of the contract, and I'd bet doughnuts and dachshunds that he chose that wording intentionally. By leaving a loophole you could drive a truck through, he kept her from trying to find other ways of wiggling through the Contract. Does anybody here remember reading Artemis Fowl? He pulled the same stunt. By letting the opposing side believe they've outsmarted you, you get to choose their end goal without them ever realizing that you're controlling the flow of the story.
All JJ needs is a way dodging his sacrificial obligation. Some kind of final trump card, perhaps?
Now, as to what that trump could be, I have no clue. I'll bet that it's related to that tearburst after her last contact with JD, though. That could be just the strain of being a go-between, or finding out that Zach was in danger. But I'm guessing that there's more to it than that.
Incidentally, are Spanish and French really similar enough that an understanding of one allows a partial translation of the other?Akelarre let out a snort and muttered something in Spanish. JJ’s French was good enough that he caught a wryly amused crack about the French and their addiction to High Melodrama.
There is an obvious way to dodge the sacrifice part, bring in a literal goat, At no point was it specified the sacrifice had to be human, at least in the contract.
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annachie wrote: JJ should have been more curious about the goat, and I suspect Akelare (sp?) may have forsworn herself.
For me I'd have been more worried about how often she mentioned "For as long as JJ lives"
Unless I missed it there was zero reference to her doing nothing to shorten his life.
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Arcanist Lupus wrote: Incidentally, are Spanish and French really similar enough that an understanding of one allows a partial translation of the other?
They're both Latinate languages... With written text of French, even an English speaker might be able to figure out some of what is said... Although, English is technically Germanic?
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Phoenix Spiritus wrote: History of the English language in a nutshell.
Romans conquer Britannia, wiping out the native languages and replacing them with Latin.
Angles, Jutes and Saxons conquer Britannia after Romans leave, ending up with a Germanic language (Anglo-Saxon) with a lot of Latin mixed in.
Danes conquer the north east of the country all the way down to London, mixing Danish into the common tongue. They manage to conquer the whole lot, but for less then one generation before ...
The Normans conquer England, leaving the upper-class speaking French and the peasants speaking Old English.
The unholy mess we all speak today congeals and then the Dutch come in and codify the spelling of it (they bought in the printing presses and they decided how they would print things).
If a Language where Germanic and Nordic sentence structures war with each other, with 50% of its volcabulary being Romantic loan words pasted into the Germanic or Nordic sentences and then topped off with Dutch imposed spelling looks like a recipe for consistency, well ...
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Malady wrote:
Arcanist Lupus wrote: Incidentally, are Spanish and French really similar enough that an understanding of one allows a partial translation of the other?
They're both Latinate languages... With written text of French, even an English speaker might be able to figure out some of what is said... Although, English is technically Germanic?
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From Phoenix Spiritus [ Click to expand ] [ Click to hide ]Phoenix Spiritus wrote: History of the English language in a nutshell.
Romans conquer Britannia, wiping out the native languages and replacing them with Latin.
Angles, Jutes and Saxons conquer Britannia after Romans leave, ending up with a Germanic language (Anglo-Saxon) with a lot of Latin mixed in.
Danes conquer the north east of the country all the way down to London, mixing Danish into the common tongue. They manage to conquer the whole lot, but for less then one generation before ...
The Normans conquer England, leaving the upper-class speaking French and the peasants speaking Old English.
The unholy mess we all speak today congeals and then the Dutch come in and codify the spelling of it (they bought in the printing presses and they decided how they would print things).
If a Language where Germanic and Nordic sentence structures war with each other, with 50% of its volcabulary being Romantic loan words pasted into the Germanic or Nordic sentences and then topped off with Dutch imposed spelling looks like a recipe for consistency, well ...
4 years of Spanish let me get the jist of what was being said to me in France. I imagine fluency would only make it easier.
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Malady wrote:
Arcanist Lupus wrote: Incidentally, are Spanish and French really similar enough that an understanding of one allows a partial translation of the other?
They're both Latinate languages... With written text of French, even an English speaker might be able to figure out some of what is said... Although, English is technically Germanic?
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From Phoenix Spiritus [ Click to expand ] [ Click to hide ]Phoenix Spiritus wrote: History of the English language in a nutshell.
Romans conquer Britannia, wiping out the native languages and replacing them with Latin.
Angles, Jutes and Saxons conquer Britannia after Romans leave, ending up with a Germanic language (Anglo-Saxon) with a lot of Latin mixed in.
Danes conquer the north east of the country all the way down to London, mixing Danish into the common tongue. They manage to conquer the whole lot, but for less then one generation before ...
The Normans conquer England, leaving the upper-class speaking French and the peasants speaking Old English.
The unholy mess we all speak today congeals and then the Dutch come in and codify the spelling of it (they bought in the printing presses and they decided how they would print things).
If a Language where Germanic and Nordic sentence structures war with each other, with 50% of its volcabulary being Romantic loan words pasted into the Germanic or Nordic sentences and then topped off with Dutch imposed spelling looks like a recipe for consistency, well ...
Well Phoenix did leave off that the English Language has the habit of wandering around mugging other Languages and stealing odd bits from them.
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It's supposedly relatively easy to understand all of them once you learn one of them.
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Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Spanish, French and Italian are basically Latin 'gone native'. They are pretty clean languages all with a common root Language, not a mongrel language like English.
It's supposedly relatively easy to understand all of them once you learn one of them.
Son studied Latin in high school, then Spanish. Now he's studying French. His comment confirms your suspicion - he explicitly thanked me and his mom for making him take Latin, because it made Spanish and French much easier.
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It doesn't matter, because the magic side is all misdirection - the real threat is 30, who certainly is not planning on taking the potion himself, nor is he intending to let either Akelarre or the person he actual has known was his enemy's nephew from the start (JD, your not as smart as you think you are) live to even see the potion completed - the potion itself is a red herring he duped Akelarre with. I am guessing that they have been his real targets from the start - though I am no longer sure if this actually is the real XXX anyway. Whoever he is, his plan actually counts on their betrayal, I am quite sure of it.
Oh. OK, I think I know who is really behind this. Oh, crap, if I am right this is a lot uglier than I thought... not saying anything more, though, except that I may be wrong about magic in general not being the keystone of all of it.
Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
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And attends Whateley starting in 2008. Codename: Pixie.
Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
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Schol-R-LEA wrote: I will plant one Epileptic Tree, though: that JJ survives all of this, but none of his family does, so she is adopted by an eccentric billionaire living in Queens.
And attends Whateley starting in 2008. Codename: Pixie.
That sounds like an interesting story!
It's definitely not the one Bek wrote, but I am intrigued by what story you thought up.
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a) Assuming the paragon potion can be created, it's described as imbuning exemplar-type effects on a non-mutant. Given we know the Harrow family have preterhuman traits that are inheritable, it's reasonable to assume they're mutants - so what happens when a formula stated to work on non-mutants encounters a not-yet-manifested mutant?
b) Although it's logical to think of the "goat" sacrifice literally, there are alternate meanings of sacrifice - given it's implied JJ's heart's desire is to become his female alter-ego, one interpretation (which, admittedly, is likely to be improbable) could be sacrificing his male identity. Or, given how devious Akelerre is, swap one 'lost' family member with another - JD is returned to the family fold, but in addition to becoming female, JJ loses all connections with the rest of his family - either as part of the formula, or, if they discover he collaborated with Akelarre, disenfranchise him (well, her).
As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!
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I assume that JJ knows enough about Sorcerer's Contracts from his mother, but we don't get that confirmation, because they don't go over the contract itself, just what will be in it.
Potentially another out for her if JJ forgot to make her be specific.
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Katssun wrote: It may also be worth noting that while the beginning of their conversation makes it clear that JJ is referring to getting JD back, Akelarre never makes specific mention of which brother she will be returning to him for his aid.
She said nothing about returning his brother, and avoided saying she'd release him. "Reuniting" leaves room for negotiations against other Harrows as willing sacrifices.
She could just sacrifice JD's life force, then bind the revenent to JJ, but somehow I don't think this woman would want to do that unless Fantasmo flubs his lines again.
Katssun wrote: I assume that JJ knows enough about Sorcerer's Contracts from his mother, but we don't get that confirmation, because they don't go over the contract itself, just what will be in it.
"JJ wrote out the contract as they’d agreed. Akelarre looked it over and found it good. She took a pin from her shawl and pricked her thumb with it. Then she signed the contract in her own blood. She handed JJ the pin, and he did likewise."
Wouldn't it be ironic if JJ's heart's desire was more socks?
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Now, JJ is either being extremely stupid or extremely clever. Since this is a Bek story, I'm betting on "clever." My guess is that he played some games with the text of the contract, possibly "misplacing" a couple commas that completely change the literal meaning of the thing. Another possibility is that he banked on Akelarre not being really fluent in English, and having slipped a couple "false friends" into the contract -- words that appear to mean something for a native Spanish speaker, but in fact mean something different.
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Specifically, I know of several words in Hebrew that sound like entirely different words in English. (For example, the Hebrew word for "fish" is pronounced like the English word "dog"). So if I made a Sorcerer's Contract to "bring you a 'dog' ", but I meant a fish, what would I have to do to fulfill the contract?
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
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I mean, I'd hope that nobody would be stupid enough to agree to a deliberately obfuscated Contract like that, but hey, hypotheticals.
On a slightly less absurd note, does the Rule of the Letter apply even if all Contracted parties are in agreement about the Spirit? Will the Letter still take precedence, screwing over all parties involved?
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In the second place, if all parties are in agreement regarding the Spirit, they can by mutual agreement, void the contract, and re-write. Typos happen, even in Magic.
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Bek D Corbin wrote: In the second place, if all parties are in agreement regarding the Spirit, they can by mutual agreement, void the contract, and re-write. Typos happen, even in Magic.
While we're here, would Magic be "content" leaving a contract voided by mutual agreement, or would pressure be exerted to issue a replacement contract?
Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.
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Ametros wrote:
Bek D Corbin wrote: In the second place, if all parties are in agreement regarding the Spirit, they can by mutual agreement, void the contract, and re-write. Typos happen, even in Magic.
While we're here, would Magic be "content" leaving a contract voided by mutual agreement, or would pressure be exerted to issue a replacement contract?
I think that at this point in the Quest, the parties can chose to define their relationship mutually or have one provided for them.
My own line of thought is that it shouldn't matter, even if everyone does keep tipping their cards, but if they do get crossed or reversed, you can expect JJ's stress levels to be cranked up to 11 (or maybe 22?).
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Ametros wrote:
Bek D Corbin wrote: In the second place, if all parties are in agreement regarding the Spirit, they can by mutual agreement, void the contract, and re-write. Typos happen, even in Magic.
While we're here, would Magic be "content" leaving a contract voided by mutual agreement, or would pressure be exerted to issue a replacement contract?
It would depend, as with so many things, on the forces involved in the contract at that point. If the two parties spot the typo the second the ink is dry, it's not a problem. If it's a huge, involved, powerful working that's in its very last stage, we're talking train wreck. The Rule of Cyclicality states that Magic is a deviation from the norm, which requires energy to overcome inertia to get started. But once intertia has been overcome, the working will proceed onwards to fulfill its given goal. Like a computer, the magic will try to fulfill its given task as best it can, even with conflicting goal statements; unlike a computer, you can't just push 'reset' or pull the power cord to keep it from completely screwing you up.
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"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
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Is there something else he can stuff a bra with without anyone else knowing why he has them?Astrodragon wrote: Actually what's really worrying me about this story is JJ's sock fetish...
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Arcanist Lupus wrote: "My Grand Quest is flying out of control!" "Did you try rebooting it?"
And if power cycling doesn't fix it, then you can always opt for percussive maintenance...
...only when there's no hope left do you opt for defenestration...
As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!
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Of course silly. The old classic toilet paper ruse.Is there something else he can stuff a bra with without anyone else knowing why he has them?
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Yolandria wrote:
Of course silly. The old classic toilet paper ruse.Is there something else he can stuff a bra with without anyone else knowing why he has them?
How would you justify carrying all that toilet paper around? While, socks are a bit more understandable? Also, socks are reusable, while toilet paper sorta isn't.
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Yes... but on a rainy day she may find her bra deflating.Yolandria wrote: True...But toilet paper is everywhere.So no need to carry it with you. And it's very easy to hide the evidence. 1 flush...
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Phoenix Spiritus wrote:
Schol-R-LEA wrote: I will plant one Epileptic Tree, though: that JJ survives all of this, but none of his family does, so she is adopted by an eccentric billionaire living in Queens.
And attends Whateley starting in 2008. Codename: Pixie.
That sounds like an interesting story!
It's definitely not the one Bek wrote, but I am intrigued by what story you thought up.
That's about it, actually. At least about that part. I do have some speculations, though:
The whole ploy involves manipulating both Akelarre and Dr XXX into staging what they believe to be a real Great Quest, but is really just a way of getting the necessary material and people together in one spot. He then begins the ritual and massacres everyone. My joke was predicated on JJ somehow being the only one to get away, and that the incomplete ritual results in the grandfather's death as well.
However, it just didn't seem to fit. As stiff and formal as he is, he shows a real interest in the world, a real love for his family - especially Asha. He also makes a big deal of piety, or at least making a pretense to it; unless he's even more devious than he appears to be, he would consider trying to achieve even a minor Godhead sacrilegious.
But it occurred to me that none of this seemed to apply to the grandmother. She was cold to everyone, even Asha, and was nothing but nasty to Mara, her own daughter. She seems completely disinterested in the events, and the fight with Akelarre appears to be more her own than anyone else's. I get the feeling she would toss them all aside with a smile and a 'good riddance to bad rubbish'.
I have no idea if that is even vaguely close, but that was what I was thinking earlier.
Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
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Easy solution. Bring a purse!JJ looked at the new phone and said, “Man, I hope I have enough pockets for all these phones.”


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I wonder if JJ's secrets will be revealed to her family at large by the end of the story.
Thanks Bek.
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Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.
The Final Trump Part 4 comments
Mixed it up with Lioness and Tiger Girl in Manhattan, locked up with a bunch of others including The Man-eater, Killer Doll, Mamba, and Bloody Mary, interesting mix of names. Brought in a teen with skin black like tar and white hair, out of it like she was kicked like a mule. All that, girl doesn't react until poked and then goes nuts, lashing out in a blur. Big Bertha hurt that badly that fast by this girl, dang. Got in here thanks to Doctor Diabolik, owes him a favor, still better than the alternative.
Ouch, Black Sapphire suffering from exhaustion, power gem user and got a second, does the Catwoman/Batman thing with some superheroes. Captain Storm, and he has a kid sidekick who is 16-17, a flying brick, oh brother. That is a big change for how a superhero operates and reacts from what Black Sapphire says, curious. What did the center decoration on the north wall trigger Mara to recall? And why would it complicate JJ's birthday party, curiouser and curiouser.
Great, guy called Boulder pretty much invited himself and his kid to the party, obnoxious. Wait, inviting Hexmaster to the party, I recall that name from somewhere else, I think. A Tao Talisman, symbol of balance, Libra, crud, they were manipulated into coming here by the Great Quest Akelarre is doing. Just keep Akelarre from getting what she is after, easier said than done.
Streber, the security chief, so confident they are the ones after the talisman that he isn't listening to them, thinking they are grifters trying to manipulate him, ugh. Hehe, just remove the mustache, it would hurt his pride more. Hope Winston aka Blue Diamond, hasn't changed a bit from what I can tell. Boy, she doesn't hold anything back. And helping her to find a guy to hook up with, hope this isn't more of the Great Quest messing with them.
BD got into a thing with Sabbath, darkness powers, and Sabbath tapped into BD's power reserves, ouch. Blackjack and Tigerbrand, interesting. Ouch, overstressed his internals with stretching, no stretching for Blackjack except his arms for a while, sounds painful. Having some fun games, mixing up the groupings, then BOOM. Always ruins the fun.
Everyone moving for cover and Mara being told to go cover the Tao Talisman. Good idea on the talisman, though I wonder if it will actually work. A 'go-bag' in a pocket realm in case of emergencies, it is a wonder more mystic types don't do that. Last used the staff when Vivian was learning to walk, oh boy. Slingshot, very interesting villain indentity, almost never see someone using a sling anymore. That is a lot of troops for this operation. Nice to have the other supervillains there and security as backup this time, BD and Blue Sapphire work good together. Well, at least he didn't use something lethal on them by accident.
Streber fears and hates those the resort caters to that much, good grief, why the heck does he stay there. Okay, what is security doing and why was it so easy to take the talisman, that is very suspicious.
Marvel Comics not giving her grief about the name, dang, good lawyers. Powered through the FF bubble, BD has knowledge to go along with her looks and reputation. The Gun Mules are that weak without the force fields, that is poor design. That easy to take out, that is pathetic, just designed to be a distraction and not last. Getting BD to take the talisman to the security chief by telling her she will get free days at the spa, priceless.
Ambushed by Akelarre's Goatmen on the way to security, BD is right, she won't live that down if it gets out. An binding epoxy snare, Nick needs to figure out what those things do and fast. And another that was supposed to be a flash-bang, *groans*, hope Nick doesn't mess up his own allies with his grenades. Spinning the big guy around so he can't yell out orders or attack, BD has skills. And Nick goofs again, getting BD trapped along with the enemies.
Ouch, body slammed by a guy that big and strong, plus his grenades scattered, Nick is going to feel that one for a while. Phantom Highwayman hitting Mara upside the head with the butt of one of his pistols instead of shooting her, at least he isn't too far gone. Throw by Nick to the big guy, only to be zapped by PH and put down hard. Ouch, BD getting blasted as well as the cyberwomen are freed from their tangled mess. PH has the talisman and big guy was about to kill BD, only to be stopped by grenades.
Kids trying to get their parents out of there, as the cops are coming and they have to flee. Ace not with the limo, busy somewhere else and JJ knows why. JJ is showing a lot of backbone for once, nice change. 4-ton, 12-foot by 6-foot cargo, wonder what that could be, did JJ figure out the actual target and get it before Akelarre could for once? An old base of Uncle Nick's with all the defenses intact and operation, nice.
Vic and Bart snuck in to find out what the Onsen is all about, figures. Security that is airtight, bwahahahaha! Nick was right, those kids could get in there no problem. Followed the pendulum, all 3 younger siblings helped get past security, hollow bonsai mountain with something inside to heat the water for the 'hot springs', oh brother. Magical and certain readings had started to go a little screwy a couple weeks ago, has to be the real object of the Great Quest from the sounds of it.
There own set-up to get certain valuables out of the Onsen very fast used against them to take the heater, clever. Tricked them into delivering the thing to the truck Ace is driving, priceless. Everything hidden by the 'sun' panels as they are moved, Plaques and manuals in German, at least they kept Akelarre from getting it.
*eyes bug out* A Vril Synthesizer, nice history and details on Vril energy and other things. Doctor Verrukt, bwahahaha, that name, I would struggle not to laugh hearing it. Good grief, this guy was nuts, thinking Mara's psychic abilities are due to a tangle of Vril in her brain and wishing to open her skull to study it. A Schimmelhorn Device and it was used to create Baron Blitzen, yikes.
All those things and Doctor Verrukt was the source of them, that is embarrassing. Vril doing all that, okay, don't want to go to that water park anymore. That huge of a charge and Mara needs to contain it, I pity her right now. Oh crud, Quest is almost complete, Crucible they have might have the final shard, very bad.
And they have JJ's birthday party tomorrow, so that thing needs to be warded right before then. White Lady sending a representative to the birthday party and Nick sent the invite, still don't know what year this story is set in. Even with a mansion that is a ridiculous number of people coming. Jean-Armand as in Nephandus, oh boy, so since he is still a boy by what Nick calls him we have a better idea of the year. And not wanting Tilda, his mom, there, few can stand that woman from what we've seen of her.
Dragging her father to the party, plus using Asha to make him mix with the guests and make conversation, Mara is not one to annoy. Showing off the Synthesizer as a trophy, why does that feel like the Great Quest manipulating them again. Even JJ knows it won't be that easy.
Great, called out by JD at 1 in the morning, Akelarre and Dr. XXX know about JJ's birthday party, all that to deal with for Akelarre and Dr. XXX to try and get back the Synthesizer. That plan sounds too simple, like JD is playing JJ and wishes to take the Synthesizer for himself. And all this talk of a mole, it all seems like JD deflecting attention from himself more and more to me.
And now talk of ABBY, talking like taking her out is a done deal, great. Things have gotten a lot more complicated really fast. JD telling JJ to follow his lead no matter, alarms going off in my head at that. Gives him a watch that should shield him from the paralysis effect, why do I have the feeling JJ is the goat Akelarre mentioned and the watch is made to paralyze only him when the time comes.
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Dreamer wrote:
Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ] [ Click to hide ]And they have JJ's birthday party tomorrow, so that thing needs to be warded right before then. White Lady sending a representative to the birthday party and Nick sent the invite, still don't know what year this story is set in. .
I think we've seen hints of Black Sapphire's story somewhere, too, but I'm not sure where.
How much do you want to bet that Countess Schwarzborg begs off saying that she had business at Whateley... say, regarding a certain Artificer? This would be right around the time when "Widening Gyre" happens.
As for Dr. Verrukt, well, now we know why Rotenadler was so confident in the equipment he was using (obviously, it had some effect) - and why he was so bad at running it, since it wasn't his own gear. I imagine Liz Carson would be very interested indeed to see this thing... OTOH, anyone who actually goes by the name 'Doctor Crazy' probably is.
And I am guessing that we'll get to see a very young Bryan St. Claire at the party.
Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
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mhalpern wrote: So what idiot threw a Drow in lockup?
An idiot named Linus Garfield who was about to get a legal beatdown and get rumbled for manipulating the operation of the Cadet Crusaders in a bid to put them in the DA's pocket.
Bek D. Corbin wrote: “Don’t worry, we didn’t put her in with the guys, we put her in the Super-Fish Tank.”
“Are you NUTS?” I [Jadis] demanded, “You gotta get her out of there!”
“Oh don’t worry. We don’t have anyone TOO dangerous in there. Let’s see: Big Bertha, Bloody Mary, the Killer Doll, The Mamba, and the Man-eater. All of ‘em street-level superbitches. And accordin’ to her MID, she’s got level: 4 Regen, so-”
“I’m not worried about HER, you idiot!” I snapped, “I’m worried about THEM! You put five unarmed bottom-rung supergoons in a locked room with Jobe, in the state of mind she’s in? GET HER OUT OF THERE, BEFORE SHE CRIPPLES THEM!”
Also, I did a search, and while no mention of Cptn. Storm is anywhere else so far, Black Sapphire did get mentioned as doing the same Batman/Catwoman thing with Red Thunder in one of the "Silver Linings" stories.
Lastly (for now), the juxtaposition of Tao talisman (which has implications of, among other things, the balance between masculine and feminine) and the mention of the Onsen having a reputation as a place for making hookups made me wonder if someone might be using the talisman and the Vril-charged hot tubs to encourage superhumans to, ah, mate. Maybe Evo Rocks, or some remnant of one of the old Mutant Supremacist groups might have a hand in it, perhaps? You may recall a micro-scene of mine about a group that had infiltrated an ob/gyn office and was illicitly impregnating young women with sperm from mutants; this would be a less dastardly approach to the same idea.
I'm probably reading too much into it; after all, some hanky-panky is pretty much a natural result of that sort of resort setup, anyway.
Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
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That said, there's nothing less trustworthy than a double agent asking for a totally blind leap of faith. There's a chance that it will be a double or triple bluff, but it's almost a certainty now that JD betrays JJ.
In other news, Fino is RSVPed for the party! Or possibly Fina at this point - we never got firm dates on when Envy and the Gilded Cage took place. And that would jibe with "there’s something going on there" from Mara. Fina is one of the my favorites among the characters who have yet to go beyond their introductory story. Can I dare to hope this signals her increased presence in future stories?
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
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On the other hand...we also now know Blue Diamond's name. Wasn't mentioned in Saks and Violence, Imp always called her "Diamond." But her real name is Hope.
/groan
We should've known the cabal would go there...
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It would almost certainly be Fino, and not Fina. Gilded Cage has Fino going to Prom, and unless his private school has it far earlier than normal, that would be towards the end of the school year, where this is likely set in April/May. Plus, Strega would brag to her professional friends like Mara about Fina. That's just the type of person she is. They both gush about their children.
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.It would almost certainly be Fino, and not Fina. Gilded Cage has Fino going to Prom, and unless his private school has it far earlier than normal, that would be towards the end of the school year, where this is likely set in April/May. Plus, Strega would brag to her professional friends like Mara about Fina. That's just the type of person she is. They both gush about their children.
Where I am from Prom is in late March to April. School gets out in middle to late May.


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"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
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- Blue Diamond, who is apparently based in New York (we have seen her often there, and never that I can recall elsewhere)
- Big Bertha, who seems to be sorta low-rent supervillain... from New York... and who got the spa ticket from Dr. Diabolik... but apparently not travel expenses. I don't think Dr. Dad would be stupid enough to gift a spa to someone if the travel expense would put a serious dent in her wallet.
- Granted, Black Sapphire was recovering from a caper in Seattle -- but from the way she speaks (a bit derisively) of Seattle, she's not based there, and in fact she speaks of having a number of heroes she plays the "Catwoman" card on -- which would work best if they don't talk to each other (flirting with one hero is "oh you so manly, you make me consider giving up the life of crime"; flirting with several of them is "I'll drop my panties for any guy in a cape." One plays up one's masculine ego so he doesn't think straight, the other... not so much.). So, different cities, meaning she travels a lot.
Also, market. Not only the Northeast is very densely populated, but Supers are said to be particularly concentrated in New York. If you want to cater to the criminal super-element, well, set up shop where there are a lot of them.
There are a number of place names dropped over the story, but from what I recall, they are all fairly common ones. Like "Springfield." But if you add all of them together, plus the presence of a harbor, and restrict the search to the Northeast, there might be enough to figure out the location.
As for the timeline... "Saks and Violence" began on February 28 and advanced a few days to March. If Big Bertha is still recovering from the fight with Jobe, this should be March, not April. However, "The Widening Gyre" happens right after "Saks and Violence" (beginning on March 4), so it might be too late for Tilda to use the Artificer thing as an excuse.
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Sir Lee wrote: This chapter suggests that the story takes place somewhere on the East Coast, probably the Northeast. Why? Well, the characters we met there. Let's see:
- Blue Diamond, who is apparently based in New York (we have seen her often there, and never that I can recall elsewhere)
- Big Bertha, who seems to be sorta low-rent supervillain... from New York... and who got the spa ticket from Dr. Diabolik... but apparently not travel expenses. I don't think Dr. Dad would be stupid enough to gift a spa to someone if the travel expense would put a serious dent in her wallet.
- Granted, Black Sapphire was recovering from a caper in Seattle -- but from the way she speaks (a bit derisively) of Seattle, she's not based there, and in fact she speaks of having a number of heroes she plays the "Catwoman" card on -- which would work best if they don't talk to each other (flirting with one hero is "oh you so manly, you make me consider giving up the life of crime"; flirting with several of them is "I'll drop my panties for any guy in a cape." One plays up one's masculine ego so he doesn't think straight, the other... not so much.). So, different cities, meaning she travels a lot.
Also, market. Not only the Northeast is very densely populated, but Supers are said to be particularly concentrated in New York. If you want to cater to the criminal super-element, well, set up shop where there are a lot of them.
There are a number of place names dropped over the story, but from what I recall, they are all fairly common ones. Like "Springfield." But if you add all of them together, plus the presence of a harbor, and restrict the search to the Northeast, there might be enough to figure out the location.
As for the timeline... "Saks and Violence" began on February 28 and advanced a few days to March. If Big Bertha is still recovering from the fight with Jobe, this should be March, not April. However, "The Widening Gyre" happens right after "Saks and Violence" (beginning on March 4), so it might be too late for Tilda to use the Artificer thing as an excuse.
The only thing about this being set early in the year, is that they went to a water park, Unless this is an indoor water park, it isn't likely to open until June. The highs in Springfield, Massachusetts are currently in the 50s (low teens for you people that use the weird scale). Springfield Florida on the other hand is currently in the low 80s (upper 20s).
Don't Drick and Drive.
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sri-bhagavan uvaca | kalo 'smi loka-ksaya-krt pravrddho | lokan samahartum iha pravrttah | - "Lord Krishna said: I am terrible Time, the destroyer of all beings in all worlds, engaged to destroy all beings in this world." - Bhagavad Gita 11:32
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REALLY?!!!!! You're KIDDING?!!!!!!!Ahimsa wrote: An interesting fact: as the story stands, it contains 697 exclamation marks (!). That may be a record for the most amount of surprise (or exultation) in a story ever.
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That would also explain the Roses being base unit.
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I wonder where Jessie will park the Gypsy-cart at Whateley? I don't think there is a mystic branch of the Gearheads yet...unless you count Caitlin.
In the end reality is only consensual! It means that Al Gore is causing "Global Warming" by his rhetoric alone! Fortunately, there are enough Global Warming "Deniers" still about to keep him from boiling the planet.
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Damian Heller aka Cardinal Sin, oh brother, this guy. JJ and Angelica trading barbs about each not having manifested as a mutant yet. Professor Oberon, his wife is named Titania, nice reference to Shakespeare "A Midsummer's Night Dream". And already can't stand Angelica, calling Ariel that kind of slur. le Compte du Maugris and his Great Dane familiar Nero, Gran'pere shows up and Angelica needs to be taught to respect her elders.
Asha dragging around her Gran'pere like that, too cute. And both Angelica and Ariel are royal Bs. Verbal fencing, that is a bad habit those girls have learned from their mothers. Threshold has an...interesting look as do Alfie and Betty. And Angelica calls him a Pedo before even finding anything about him, talk about judgmental. Uncle Luke, and Ariel thinks she has figured out that Alfie and Betty are self-aware androids, fully human looking. Asha playing with those two, plus her mother's and Grand 'Pere's familiars, cute.
Ariel and Angelica need to learn how to restrain their mouths before they find out more about those they are commenting on. Celestina Valocco aka Black Strega and her new daughter, everything not knowing she used to be Fino, good. That greeting between Celestina and Mara, yikes, and poor Sophia stuck there and forced to socialize as a girl. At least Ariel and Angelica shut up thanks to Sophia, hope she is able to adjust to her female form in time.
What the! Someone told the guests he asked for underwear, that is just wrong. Talk about the Sidhe aka the 'Good Neighbors' returning using human host and how nothing good can come of it. And a reference to the Bloodline, wonder what answers they might get.
Enenra, the Kaitos, a family of Japanese who are almost as big as JJ's family. 'Phantom thieves', which really ninjas don't like it when they use the name, oh boy.
So that is how they stay sharp, compete against the Kaitos. Father Osabi, wife Ikiryo, eldest son Akateko, oldest daughter Tenka, two younger sons Janjabi and Jubokko, and youngest Yosei. And a gift like that, oh boy, that is some rivalry."One-Upmanship is very important to our families!"
Youngest daughter enraptured by all things French, cute. Akateko having a rivalry with JD, *rolls eyes* Adam and Eve and their son Seth, Society Witches, nice theme without pushing it. Seth going to stir up trouble, good, so far this party is a snore. And staring that blatantly, Seth is going to get slapped or worse at that rate. Scaring the idiot off by revealing who Sophia's mom is, nice.
Complaints about hard to keep minions due to Dr. Diabolik, Nick knows who Golden Eagle is and has him under control, Klinked, nice reference to Hogan's Heroes. Uh oh, Musette not responding already, and nice description of how the Knights of Purity operate.
Poor JJ and Sophia having to make small talk, saved by the [elevator] bell. Josephine Pellegrini-St. Gremaine aka Madam Hex, and Arsene, her son. Custody matter still being ironed out, that poor boy. And urging Sophia to join the girls and Seth, *groans* Boulder and his son both massive, but those outfits, almost feels like they took fashion advice from Jericho. Wait, Teddy's mutant trait hasn't kicked in yet and he is 6'6" or so tall and 250 lbs, yikes.
And Gran'pere ticked at how rude Boulder is being after forcing himself and his son upon this party.
Slapped down like that by a glare, love seeing a big bruiser who bullies others taken down like this. Mr. Magic showing up with Gwen after all this went down in full costumes, priceless.No, this wasn't psychic power-this was raw AUTHORITY, the concentrated disapproval of a thousand Second-Grade teachers, forcing him...forcing to...THINK about what he'd done!
Shadowmage, superhero in New York from the sounds of it, operating better than before. Not trusting Power Gems, lost money on the 'Great Quest' deal, and British Media being nasty, I can believe that.
Professor Oberon worked with Gran'Pere in 1950 on the Linz Reichstag Bank Train Robbery, interesting. And dang, Gran'Pere played everyone else and walked off with everything, that is a master stroke. And what a way to get gold out, recast as olive oil cans, painted and shipped to Switzerland. He stole a cache ot texts from the Vatican's Special Archives that had been moved to the Catholic-Theological Private University in Linz, very impressive. Seeing all that and finding his time was over, ouch. At least he went out big on his last job.
Ah, the Drow Princess Royal Wedding deal was a while back. And talked the Magnificent Five into doing something, he is either really good or they are really gullible. Kids talking about Whateley, one not wishing to go because she has her school locked down tight. One kid praising everything about the school, in the Mystic Arts program, dad having to rip off someone to pay their freshman year. Yeah, I can believe that about the Whateley kitchen, if you can pass there even Gordon Ramsey would be easy. Teasing Vivian about why she didn't want to go to Whateley again, hehe.
Melissa and Rafe Devoss, both thieves who met each other on a job. All those details about Melissa, Mara's sister from the sound of things, that definitely complicates things. Awww, no fun for Nick, poor Rafe will have to find things out on his own.
Bwahahaha, someone thinking the Iron Dragon is an antique and won't be able to take China, hope they didn't make a bet on that. Dr. XXX did all that to make henchmen, oh boy, he is an bigger idiot than I thought.
Stuck on the reception line with no access to snacks or drinks, that is cruel to do to the birthday boy. Uncle Virgil, Scottish Terrier familiar Naimon, and his date for the night, dang, they attract women that are supermodel or better, what is with the men in their family. Jane Kolbe, formerly with the Sonnenkinder, from the sounds of it a criminal group you normally can't just leave. That many more defections coming soon from that organization, sounds like they don't treat their people well.
Talk by Melissa from the sounds of it, when Mara had kids Melusine fell out of favor with their father and she is just glad he got off her back about giving him grandkids. Talk by Jane, that is the goal of the Sonnenkinder, fight a war they already lost 60 years ago, oh brother. Next part sounds like Sophia talking, boy, forgot how crazy her origin story was. How the MCO in Japan worries someone, one of the girls jealous with another for kissing up to Arsene, and someone about to talk someone's ear off about riddle clues.
LeMalins show up and JJ buckles up, liking spending time with Anastasia and Georges, Aurelie acting like she is too cool for JJ, and Felix hand in glove with Bart and Vic. And Marine, the youngest, whom Asha drags Yosei over to. Isabelle catty with Juliet, and JJ ignored by all of them and given French underwear, ugh.
Black Strega bragging about enthralling all of Paris, one illusionist telling another the best illusions are ones which no one realizes is an illusion, and interest in something but not be bothered to learn anything about it, that sounds foolish to me.
Ah, the Gages, representatives of the White Lady are the last to show up and Gran'Pere is to greet them. All that so the White Lady will take the Synthesizer, good ideas but will they pull it off with Dr. XXX and Akelarre after it. Clarice Gage, representative of the White Lady, Gran'Pere has favors he did for the White Lady still unpaid, dang. Gran'Pere scammed them like that, he is smooth. No favors owed, clever.
Atrocious French despite being proud of their French heritage, let Gran'Pere do most of the talking and didn't reveal how bad her French was, way to use her ego against her. A toast to officially start the party before they go to dinner, fancy. The Code of the Honorable Outlaw, if only all thieves and outlaws adhered to it. Everyone frozen right as they raise their glasses, and so it begins.
Paralysis inducer and the bracelet did protect JJ, JD showing up and asking JJ to welcome us in, uh oh, he didn't come alone. Four Goatmen and a portable gateway, yikes. Dr. XXX and Akelarre showing up themselves, this is the worst possible scenario. Right as JJ is about to welcome them in, when Accolon pounced on him and two large dogs show up as well. Alfie choking JJ and Betty trying to unplug the power cord from the gateway. And JJ invites them in, as long as they observe hospitality, wonder how that will work.
Familiars rounded up and contained, 2 more goatmen dead and these here are the last of their breed, nurturing a pool for almost a century only to lose almost all of them for the Great Quest. JD taking off his mask to drink the wine from Nick's glass and return it to him, he has gotten very cocky. She designed an Ark of the Covenant style thing as a charging vessel and concealing reserve for empowered items, scary. 3 more of those, and a lot more brought through, guess the Great Quest needs a lot to work.
Glastig Water from a Spring devoted to the Green Lady, how Akelarre got into sorcery. I had lost track of everything that had been stolen, seems like she needed her main goal and the supposed decoys as well in some cases for the Great Quest. All that to create the Paragon Potion, but after all that blustering will they pull it off.
Highwayman thought he would be the one to test it, but Akelarre hid something from him, spiritual fire is needed to 'energize' the liquid, like that which they can gain from his proto-spirit, uh oh, double cross. Go insubstantial and let the potion pass through him, inside the main body of the Synthesizer, wonder who is in trouble here. JD gets the power of the Paragon Potion, then says SPADE, the signal to JJ.
He turned off their protection to the Paralysis Inducer, genius, plus collars to control Dr. XXX's Battle-Barbies, what is JD up to? Okay, get Dr. XXX to turn off the Paralysis Inducer, sounds like a plan, still not sure about JD though. I knew it! JD is the one who hung that poor woman, he took JD's protective watch and now he is paralyzed, this is very bad.
Really hate JD, taunting Nick about the Code and such, even pulls a pistol on Nick and puts it to his head before he stiffens himself. Dr. XXX gave JJ an emergency measure for when JD turned on him, was wondering if he would be able to use it still. Working with Dr. XXX now to deal with Highwayman and get the plan back in order. Taking JD's proto-spirit from him, good, least he deserves. And JJ put the blocker on somewhere else, it was his actual watch JD took, very clever.
Darn, decked by Dr. XXX because he doesn't trust clever people. The Skulljacker made by the Transhumanite, oh boy, without reading further I can guess it is a body swapper, Dr. XXX is going to steal JD's body. What JD has done is bad, but stealing his body and leaving him in that form is just monstrous. Processing the proto-spirit to have more power when he has the body, plus now going to kill Akelarre, this is bad, Dr. XXX played them all.
And JJ is up and freaked Akelarre and her goatmen from the paralysis, so many twist and turns. A PFG borrowed from Uncle Nick, JJ just keeps the surprises coming. Ooo, getting ABBY's help so he can pick and choose who locked up and when, JJ didn't trust any of them like a smart kid. Giving her the proto-spirit so Akelarre will leave, hope she is a smart villain.
Oh crud, the Price of the Goat, she is trying to create a Dragon's Pearl, she is insane to risk that dangerous of a Great Quest. Sacrificing the Alpha Buck as part of it, thought goat would mean something else, not be literal. And that list of items, not sure if any of them reference something I should know or not. Though the Living Mandrake screaming does recall Harry Potter for me, plus older tales of mandrake.
Drew the book up out of the Pit and now destroyed it it so he soul is hers again, destroy the demon she sold her soul to, ruthless. Sacrifice of the Goat, crud, I was right, it is JJ! JJ fighting for his life, going after the Stinger, how to get out of this mess. Killed one goatman and 4 left, setting it on autofire mode and going to free ABBY, that might work. Caught by Akelarre's djinn, darn it!
Sacrifice everything to gain nothing, calling him the Judas Goat who betrayed in turn his family, all their guest, the Highwayman, Dr. XXX and Akelarre, that is some bullshit. Shoved the final shard for the Great Quest into JJ's smartphone, double darn it! Threatening everyone there, saying everything of theirs is hers now, even their lives, sickening. And touching Asha and threatening her like that, she will burn!
And planning to transfer herself into Mara's body, there is no ends to her evil. Then taunting every other attractive female there, talking about what she would gain by transferring into their body, including Sophia. Removing his manhood to get the shard for the final part of the Great Quest, yikes, not the way he wanted it to happen. Did she just kill JJ, no, not after all this.
Green goo and the golden goat's skull rising from the liquid, she is in big trouble. The skull flying at Akelarre, what is going on, is JJ somehow alive and controlling it? JJ reborn as an hot 16 year old girl, dressed in ragged tatters and covered in the Highwayman's green longcoat. Born and raised in the Briar Patch, nice Br'er Rabbit reference.
Jessie has been leading all 3 of them around by the noses from the word GO, priceless. Whoa, broke hospitality and it is enforced by Evocations to Zeus, in his role as Xenios, the Defender of Hospitality. So everything Jessie does it aided by the Hand of Zeus, plus he roofied the wine Akelarre drank. Only has a limited amount of time before she is asleep, good. She thinks Jessie is using a Spell of Suggestion to get her to think she is drugged and act that way, why go with a spell with something else will work just as well.
Having the djinn attack to kill Jessie, bad move. Oooo, telling Akelarre she fits the fool who came for the sacrifice and the role of the Goat better. Abhorrent Haze of the Regent Wyrm, interesting spell name. Wreck the paralysis thingie and let the guest wreck them, Jessie is vicious. Left the goatman who was made big dying with its head twisted around using Iron Ox's strength harness, Jessie is 15 steps ahead of her at least.
Tapping into the Ark of Mara Harrow for power, all those spells in place and staying in one place, waiting for Jessie to come to her, Akelarre has gotten desperate. That ring was a Challenge Token, ever since she stole it from JJ they have been in a Power Challenge for Essence, dang. Took gauntlets and the Minoan mirror, plus slapped charms on the Arks to keep Akelarre from tapping into them for power, okay, 30 steps ahead of her now.
Speakers to misdirect her into attacking a table, tricked by simple technology, too good. And taking the Dragon's Pearl from Akelarre, using a smartphone to trigger lights and sounds to induce a seizure, 40 moves ahead at least now. Eye of Lemuria to distract her, then blasting her with one of the Highwayman's pistols, dang, that was a total and complete victory. Even took her magic as her own.
True arms and hands withered, using animated puppet things to pass off as her arms and legs, yet Jessie figured her out. Like a living mummy, ewww, plus having the mask altered so she will always remember how she was beat by a 15 year old girl. Even took her real magic items, Akelarre is ruined by a Great Quest subverted a by an extremely clever and cunning 15 year old.
Darn, Akelarre's shielding of the paralysis inducer is still going. ABBY can't shut it down, charged battery on the thing which will last for more than an hour, Uncle Luke doesn't recover quickly with a band on him, and Jessie wakes him up with telepathy. Developed it 3 days after JD disappeared but no one noticed the first signs, so secret the readers didn't even notice.
Darn, didn't even think about a remote broadcast back-up for the power supply to the Paralysis Inducer. Ouch, Rohypnol and Compliance collars don't mix, his mind that messed up. And Jessie running with it, claims everything from the 3 villains by Right of Conquest, no objections from the family. Last goatman given to Asha as a pet, if he isn't good to her he will be made into Kokoretsi, yikes.
Dr. XXX's power frame to Brat and Vic, after they remove the weapons, good call on that by Nick. Giving Viv Iron Ox's harness, bragging rights when she returns it, that is too perfect. Aunt Mel gets the Great Pearl of the White Raja of Sarawak, the large purplish gem to Uncle Virge, gave Gramma the Paragon Potion, whoa. Gran'Pere got the Chetwin Device and Eye of Lemuria, he will enjoy studying those.
Uncle Luke running into those kind of fantasy into Dr. XXX's mind, ewww is in understatement. Dr. XXX and his minions, everything of his except his money and liquid assets, is Uncle Luke's. Jessie keeping the money for herself, some of it to pay for Whateley tuition. And she gave Mara the Dragon's Pearl, but she is most happen to have a daughter like Jessie. Everything Akelarre owns, except her liquid assets, is also mom's, including Akelarre. They never should have messed with the Harrow family.
Keeping the gypsy wagon of Akelarre's for herself, like Dr. Who, inside it is HUGE! Sleep in that while at Whateley, she could have friends sleep in there, throw parties for Pete's sake.
All that and Jessie had to BEAT Akelarre, because of various reasons but also because of Challenge of Roses with her."PLEASE Papa! I'm having my first mother-daughter moment with JJ! Don't try to horn in on it!"
Bwahahaha, sneaking into his mom's magical library and reading everything he could since he was 8, JJ, now Jessie, is very good. And Mara is proud of her for doing it, having a true heir to the Craft at last. Oh, get Akelarre's djinn and bind it to herself, Jessie played the long-game and came out ahead in many ways. What! The Highwayman was Zack all along and he murdered JD, that scum! Jessie knew, too many clues and slip-ups.
Jessie spelling it all out how everything happened, gave JD to Dr. XXX to hold as a hostage in case something went wrong, turning on his best friend like that, sickening. When he was certain of everything, his PDP trait kicked in, has his head full keeping his brain from leaking from his ears, ouch. Was going to tell them but ran into Zack/Highwayman first.
Oh boy, upset that JJ knew all that and didn't come to them sooner, to inform them about JD, plus Zack as spying on them through Viv. Sounds like Dad is upset, detailing everything JJ knew and could have done to stop them sooner. Yet, all that so JJ could become a girl and Nick is so proud, that is Real Mastermind Thinking. Thought JJ had gone straight with how he was acting, bwahahaha. Nick even had nightmares about JJ becoming a cop, talk about reading things the wrong way.
They would have respected the 'Corsican Brothers' act, they took him in, treated him like family. But he betrayed all that out of jealousy, of their power and living outside the law, plus having the hots for Mara all these years. Zack polluted data on a project of Uncle Luke's, then stole the prototype and passed it off to JD as his own work, ugh. Dr. XXX was supposed to keep JD alive, he cut open his skull so he could study his brain, death is too good for him.
JD is a vegetable and Zack was gloating about it, sick ****. Cut him up so he can heal again and be passed to the next family member, sound good to me. Something in the house that can completely compromise the family, great. JD is alive! A life-like dummy that Dr. XXX used to game Zack, can't trust anyone. And Dr. XXX did plan to move himself into JD's body after subjecting it to the Paragon Potion.
ABBY already working on accessing Dr. XXX's lab through that teleport gateway, good AI to have, so quick she is already doing what you ask before you ask. JD is going to want some vengeance on Zack when he gets back. Have Luke lead the rescue team, Mara has the right idea, who better to raid a mad scientist's lair but another mad scientist. At least it is only an hour delay after all this, and Vic and Bart got their new toy taken by Uncle Luke for now, ah well. And all the females of the family going in to help Jessie get ready to go back to the party.
Viv saying this is going to ruin their reputation, Mara ask how, Viv says there is a roomful of Supervillains who know about all this. And the spells Jessie told Akelarre about which are connected to hospitality are very real. Mask Jessie as JJ to take the final exams at her school, then training in magic over the summer, which Viv is upset about. And Viv is upset because she thinks she should be her mom's heir, even though she keeps slacking off and treating magic as a chore.
Viv better shut her mouth, already sticking her foot in it and calling Jessie a freak. Nick and Luke went to Whateley, Nick got put in the infirmary by Blue Thunder 3 times, ouch. Got Viv upset, they talk about what plans they believe she had for her life, she is wondering why she thought she didn't want to go to Whateley now. And from what Jessie said, Zack manipulated Viv into not going to Whateley, pushing her buttons and manipulating all of them from things he has learned by experience since he was 8.
And Viv is upset now that she knows Zack was gaming her this whole time. And Viv having to pull off a job to pay for her going to Whateley next year, bwahahaha, if only she had gone sooner. Nice goading her into wanting to actually do it, Jessie set the bar so high I doubt any of the other kids will ever match it.
Telling Jessie she made a huge decision without discussing it with them or a doctor. Transsexulism being a complicated thing, the odds vastly favor her being something else she mistaken for transsexualism. A way back if she changes her mind, but only once and can't return to being a girl if regrets it. And Vivian having to share an outfit with her new sister, that girl needs to learn to share.
Fussing about hair, make-up, and clothes, Jessie has just started on her life as a girl and met the first obstacle. And JD is back and alive, JD pounding on Zack's face with a metal gauntlet, he would kill him if not for his family's joy at him being back and alive. Mara hugging him first, then Juliet, then Melissa, Vivian and Asha get in on the hugging. And JD figures out it is JD just by the way he does an "I told you so" about Zack. And guides to Dr. Helen Smart's research bay on her ship to get a proto-spirit of his own, since Jessie has the one Zack used to.
So much changed and JD confused, he will get used to it. Dang, all that wasn't due to Jessie's plans, it all jumped the rails so many times she lost track. If JJ had the chance, would have planned this out a lot better, without it being in front of guest and strangers for the finale. Improvising like crazy, bluffing and using enemies' weaknesses against them, dang, I actually thought she planned it all. And Dad reveals he does it all the same way she did, heh. Turned right at Albuquerque and wound up in Wackyland, nice references to Bugs Bunny and Tiny Toons. Jessie is definitely Nick's daughter.
That was a crazy ride from start to finish. So many red herrings thrown out, thinking that JD was the Phantom Highwayman, playing JJ from the start, using JJ to play the family, then all those huge reveals at the end. That was masterful, I never even suspected Zack of being the Phantom Highwayman until he was unveiled. Though all the villains crossing each other and JJ, that is what happens with criminals with honor. A fun romp from start to finish with a happy ending. Can't wait to see Jessie's further adventures and how she adjust to having her dream come true.
Thank You for story comments appreciated and help me know me they are being read and liked.

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DanZilla wrote: Heh... now that Part 5's here... let's see how many people's guesses are right... I know mine were thrown off by a few things that happen...
I think I did rather well, if I do say so myself.
Well, the Harrows were not in on it. But other than that...Arcanist Lupus wrote: There's definitely at least one con going on here. The question is how many are there, and who's running them? I agree that JD is probably running one, but JJ and the Harrows may be in on one as well.
On of the hallmarks of a good heist story is that nobody, not even the protagonists, ever fully reveal their hands to the reader until the end. So the question becomes: who's the one holding the final trump?
(see what I did there?)
Well, the trump card was Sacred Hospitality, not anything to do with the crying outburst (which was certainly due to the discovery of JD's 'death'). But I'd say everything else was pretty close.I have to disagree with you there. Akelarre almost certainly plans to use JJ as the Sacrifice of the Goat, (although that is not to say that Zack might not make a suitable substitute in a pinch).
So, either JJ's desire to be a real girl is strong enough to squelch every last living brain cell in their possession, or else JJ has prepared quite a trick. Akelarre's side of the Contract evaporates on JJ's death. But JJ is the one who worded Akelarre's side of the contract, and I'd bet doughnuts and dachshunds that he chose that wording intentionally. By leaving a loophole you could drive a truck through, he kept her from trying to find other ways of wiggling through the Contract. Does anybody here remember reading Artemis Fowl? He pulled the same stunt. By letting the opposing side believe they've outsmarted you, you get to choose their end goal without them ever realizing that you're controlling the flow of the story.
All JJ needs is a way dodging his sacrificial obligation. Some kind of final trump card, perhaps?
Now, as to what that trump could be, I have no clue. I'll bet that it's related to that tearburst after her last contact with JD, though. That could be just the strain of being a go-between, or finding out that Zach was in danger. But I'm guessing that there's more to it than that.
Ding Ding Ding!Arcanist Lupus wrote: Huh. JJ's joined the Quest on both sides now, has a major birthday coming up (15 isn't a particularly significant year, but they've pulled out all the stops for the party, so it probably still counts as 'big') that will likely be the focal point for the resolution of the quest. I have to wonder if his play is to shift the Quest entirely onto his own shoulders and make himself the primary recipient.
That said, there's nothing less trustworthy than a double agent asking for a totally blind leap of faith. There's a chance that it will be a double or triple bluff, but it's almost a certainty now that JD betrays JJ.
In other news, Fino is RSVPed for the party! Or possibly Fina at this point - we never got firm dates on when Envy and the Gilded Cage took place. And that would jibe with "there’s something going on there" from Mara. Fina is one of the my favorites among the characters who have yet to go beyond their introductory story. Can I dare to hope this signals her increased presence in future stories?
I totally missed Zach's disguise (EDIT: and Jessie's manifestation as a PDP!), and a lot of the credit comes from being rather vague while I made predictions. Nonetheless, I'm pleased.
An excellent ending, totally worth all the buildup. (I thought this was going to be a three part story when it started, but it was definitely worth all the extra parts). I especially loved the bit where Jessie is being betrayed and then betraying each of her accomplices in turn. Excellent symmetry.
Really though, Akelarre should have known better than to break Sacred Hospitality at a gathering hosted by a family of mages. Also, she should expand her reference material. Doesn't know what a briar patch is... *shakes head*
Also, I really want to see Fina, Jessie, and Gwen becoming a team. They'd be unstoppable and amazing.
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
- Angeldude
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Best! Birthday! EVAR!
Revealing that JJ not only was bluffing about not having psychic powers, but was using them the entire time? I did not see that coming.
I wonder is she's seriously going to bring the wagon to Whateley, and if so, will she choose to sleep in it rather than a cotage and where will she put it? Does the school even let students set up their own sleeping arrangements?
I can name one that you'll likely be meeting at your new school. On that note, is anyone willing to write a microscene of Jessie and Ayla have a Poe cottage pillow fight where the pillows are stuffed with cash?Besides, how many kids outside Show Biz can say that they were self-made millionaires before they were 16?”
I believe that makes 2 new Bad Seeds for year 2: Jessie and Ribbon. Though one is far more enthusiastic about villainy than the other. Lodestone might count, and Mischief might be able to weasel her way in if she wants by convincing people that the Imp adopted her (much to her father's dismay).
Love that Vivian suddenly wants to go to Whateley now after hearing that her brother (now sister) is going. I wonder if she will manage to steal enough money to pay tuition or if their family will take pity on her and pay for her.
Insanity: for when normal just isn't interesting enough.
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Angeldude wrote: Love that Vivian suddenly wants to go to Whateley now after hearing that her brother (now sister) is going. I wonder if she will manage to steal enough money to pay tuition or if their family will take pity on her and pay for her.
My guess is that if she makes a respectable amount, then they will cover the difference, and even possibly pay a little above that so that she can reap some rewards from her caper.
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
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But.... that would mean that Jessie was... <flashing eyes, sound of teeth grating, fist clenched, small objects being thrown psychokinetically> that Jessie was ONE UP ON HER! And that desecration of the natural order can NOT be allowed to occur!Arcanist Lupus wrote:
Angeldude wrote: Love that Vivian suddenly wants to go to Whateley now after hearing that her brother (now sister) is going. I wonder if she will manage to steal enough money to pay tuition or if their family will take pity on her and pay for her.
My guess is that if she makes a respectable amount, then they will cover the difference, and even possibly pay a little above that so that she can reap some rewards from her caper.
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"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
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Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
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Schol-R-LEA wrote: Now that is what I call a finale!
It needed a curtain drop.

Don't Drick and Drive.
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Ms. Grimes? I'd like you review... some books that a student brought.
Sure. Approximately how many?
Um... do you think you could do a small library?
What‽ How does a single student pack an entire library with them?
Insanity: for when normal just isn't interesting enough.
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Angeldude wrote: That was quite the adventure. It was said in the story and deserves to be repeated:
Best! Birthday! EVAR!
Revealing that JJ not only was bluffing about not having psychic powers, but was using them the entire time? I did not see that coming.
That part, and the family NOT being in on the Quest, fooled me.
Seriously. Dr. XXX NOT being a red herring? A good bit of sleight-of-mind that.
Angeldude wrote: I wonder is she's seriously going to bring the wagon to Whateley, and if so, will she choose to sleep in it rather than a cotage and where will she put it? Does the school even let students set up their own sleeping arrangements?
Up to a point, personal resources and school security being obvious limits, students can and do set up their own sleeping arrangements. I wouldn't be surprised to find that there's been 1d6 Rope Tricks on-campus set up to exit under a bunk since the early 1980s. The above-par facilities provided the Melvillians are in part to curb the impulse to do so, and instead "rough it" a little.
Bringing the wagon to Whateley may be no more difficult than modifying its exterior dimensional interface to match a steamer trunk.
Besides, how many kids outside Show Biz can say that they were self-made millionaires before they were 16?”
Loophole may have met that on the Kevra license. 'Shine for sure. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to extrapolate just how badly the techies have been getting screwed over over the years.
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I find myself struck by just how apt and fitting the "unreliable narrator" is in this. Very good combination of suspense for us readers that meshes so very well with psychics being everywhere.
Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.
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Well Phase is on the cusp if not already a mostly self made billionaire, yes he started with a pittance of an inheritance, but everything past that is his own hard work. Silver could easily get to that point BY breaking a sweat, her sweat is Mithril which according to the wiki is over $3,000 an ounce, so that's 333 and 1/3 ounces per mil, so about every 90 liters of sweat, not counting 'additional processing' (making enchanted items, use in Orichalcum, or other even unenchanted immediately (or nearly immediately) usable Mithril items. Mobius might be on his way to 1 mil, thanks to Phase and having a very desirable line of products that appear incredibly stable for devises, which means if anyone parses back what he does into real science he better get royalties, there is a list of other potential self made mega rich kids in Whateley who if they don't make themselves millionaires before 16, are likely to at least get very close before 18.null0trooper wrote:
Angeldude wrote: That was quite the adventure. It was said in the story and deserves to be repeated:
Best! Birthday! EVAR!
Revealing that JJ not only was bluffing about not having psychic powers, but was using them the entire time? I did not see that coming.
That part, and the family NOT being in on the Quest, fooled me.
Seriously. Dr. XXX NOT being a red herring? A good bit of sleight-of-mind that.
Angeldude wrote: I wonder is she's seriously going to bring the wagon to Whateley, and if so, will she choose to sleep in it rather than a cotage and where will she put it? Does the school even let students set up their own sleeping arrangements?
Up to a point, personal resources and school security being obvious limits, students can and do set up their own sleeping arrangements. I wouldn't be surprised to find that there's been 1d6 Rope Tricks on-campus set up to exit under a bunk since the early 1980s. The above-par facilities provided the Melvillians are in part to curb the impulse to do so, and instead "rough it" a little.
Bringing the wagon to Whateley may be no more difficult than modifying its exterior dimensional interface to match a steamer trunk.
Besides, how many kids outside Show Biz can say that they were self-made millionaires before they were 16?”
Loophole may have met that on the Kevra license. 'Shine for sure. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to extrapolate just how badly the techies have been getting screwed over over the years.
Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
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I loved it!
I kind of figured how things would play out the minute the "in hospitality" greeting was thrown out, but Jessie having PDP the whole time? Never saw that coming.
Bek's stories never fail to surprise me, even with all the heavy foreshadowing that they have.
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mhalpern wrote:
Well Phase is on the cusp if not already a mostly self made billionaire, yes he started with a pittance of an inheritance, but everything past that is his own hard work. Silver could easily get to that point BY breaking a sweat, her sweat is Mithril which according to the wiki is over $3,000 an ounce, so that's 333 and 1/3 ounces per mil, so about every 90 liters of sweat, not counting 'additional processing' (making enchanted items, use in Orichalcum, or other even unenchanted immediately (or nearly immediately) usable Mithril items. Mobius might be on his way to 1 mil, thanks to Phase and having a very desirable line of products that appear incredibly stable for devises, which means if anyone parses back what he does into real science he better get royalties, there is a list of other potential self made mega rich kids in Whateley who if they don't make themselves millionaires before 16, are likely to at least get very close before 18.null0trooper wrote:
Angeldude wrote: That was quite the adventure. It was said in the story and deserves to be repeated:
Best! Birthday! EVAR!
Revealing that JJ not only was bluffing about not having psychic powers, but was using them the entire time? I did not see that coming.
That part, and the family NOT being in on the Quest, fooled me.
Seriously. Dr. XXX NOT being a red herring? A good bit of sleight-of-mind that.
Angeldude wrote: I wonder is she's seriously going to bring the wagon to Whateley, and if so, will she choose to sleep in it rather than a cotage and where will she put it? Does the school even let students set up their own sleeping arrangements?
Up to a point, personal resources and school security being obvious limits, students can and do set up their own sleeping arrangements. I wouldn't be surprised to find that there's been 1d6 Rope Tricks on-campus set up to exit under a bunk since the early 1980s. The above-par facilities provided the Melvillians are in part to curb the impulse to do so, and instead "rough it" a little.
Bringing the wagon to Whateley may be no more difficult than modifying its exterior dimensional interface to match a steamer trunk.
Besides, how many kids outside Show Biz can say that they were self-made millionaires before they were 16?”
Loophole may have met that on the Kevra license. 'Shine for sure. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to extrapolate just how badly the techies have been getting screwed over over the years.
While it's only come up with the power testing staff, Tennyo's products are over half a trillion times more valuable than Silver's by unit mass (going by real life market value of antihydrogen: $62.5 trillion / gram according to Google) Though given that she produces it as a plasma, it would likely be more difficult to generate the same weight as Silver. It's also far more difficult to transport and use.
Insanity: for when normal just isn't interesting enough.
All ideas free to use. You can probably make better use of them than me.
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Angeldude wrote:
mhalpern wrote:
Well Phase is on the cusp if not already a mostly self made billionaire, yes he started with a pittance of an inheritance, but everything past that is his own hard work. Silver could easily get to that point BY breaking a sweat, her sweat is Mithril which according to the wiki is over $3,000 an ounce, so that's 333 and 1/3 ounces per mil, so about every 90 liters of sweat, not counting 'additional processing' (making enchanted items, use in Orichalcum, or other even unenchanted immediately (or nearly immediately) usable Mithril items. Mobius might be on his way to 1 mil, thanks to Phase and having a very desirable line of products that appear incredibly stable for devises, which means if anyone parses back what he does into real science he better get royalties, there is a list of other potential self made mega rich kids in Whateley who if they don't make themselves millionaires before 16, are likely to at least get very close before 18.null0trooper wrote:
Angeldude wrote: That was quite the adventure. It was said in the story and deserves to be repeated:
Best! Birthday! EVAR!
Revealing that JJ not only was bluffing about not having psychic powers, but was using them the entire time? I did not see that coming.
That part, and the family NOT being in on the Quest, fooled me.
Seriously. Dr. XXX NOT being a red herring? A good bit of sleight-of-mind that.
Angeldude wrote: I wonder is she's seriously going to bring the wagon to Whateley, and if so, will she choose to sleep in it rather than a cotage and where will she put it? Does the school even let students set up their own sleeping arrangements?
Up to a point, personal resources and school security being obvious limits, students can and do set up their own sleeping arrangements. I wouldn't be surprised to find that there's been 1d6 Rope Tricks on-campus set up to exit under a bunk since the early 1980s. The above-par facilities provided the Melvillians are in part to curb the impulse to do so, and instead "rough it" a little.
Bringing the wagon to Whateley may be no more difficult than modifying its exterior dimensional interface to match a steamer trunk.
Besides, how many kids outside Show Biz can say that they were self-made millionaires before they were 16?”
Loophole may have met that on the Kevra license. 'Shine for sure. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to extrapolate just how badly the techies have been getting screwed over over the years.
While it's only come up with the power testing staff, Tennyo's products are over half a trillion times more valuable than Silver's by unit mass (going by real life market value of antihydrogen: $62.5 trillion / gram according to Google) Though given that she produces it as a plasma, it would likely be more difficult to generate the same weight as Silver. It's also far more difficult to transport and use.
important part of any market is the ability to store, transport and sell the product, you need magnetic bottles to store antimatter, and that means a constant power expenditure and not good for WMDS (harder to keep them from going off than it is to set them off), in addition you need expensive special equipment to use said product meaning few people will purchase it, labs will have their own source and there are cheaper safer means of power generation, it costs a fortune for any amount of it, and there is no real market for it.
Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
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mhalpern wrote:
Angeldude wrote:
mhalpern wrote:
Well Phase is on the cusp if not already a mostly self made billionaire, yes he started with a pittance of an inheritance, but everything past that is his own hard work. Silver could easily get to that point BY breaking a sweat, her sweat is Mithril which according to the wiki is over $3,000 an ounce, so that's 333 and 1/3 ounces per mil, so about every 90 liters of sweat, not counting 'additional processing' (making enchanted items, use in Orichalcum, or other even unenchanted immediately (or nearly immediately) usable Mithril items. Mobius might be on his way to 1 mil, thanks to Phase and having a very desirable line of products that appear incredibly stable for devises, which means if anyone parses back what he does into real science he better get royalties, there is a list of other potential self made mega rich kids in Whateley who if they don't make themselves millionaires before 16, are likely to at least get very close before 18.null0trooper wrote:
Angeldude wrote: That was quite the adventure. It was said in the story and deserves to be repeated:
Best! Birthday! EVAR!
Revealing that JJ not only was bluffing about not having psychic powers, but was using them the entire time? I did not see that coming.
That part, and the family NOT being in on the Quest, fooled me.
Seriously. Dr. XXX NOT being a red herring? A good bit of sleight-of-mind that.
Angeldude wrote: I wonder is she's seriously going to bring the wagon to Whateley, and if so, will she choose to sleep in it rather than a cotage and where will she put it? Does the school even let students set up their own sleeping arrangements?
Up to a point, personal resources and school security being obvious limits, students can and do set up their own sleeping arrangements. I wouldn't be surprised to find that there's been 1d6 Rope Tricks on-campus set up to exit under a bunk since the early 1980s. The above-par facilities provided the Melvillians are in part to curb the impulse to do so, and instead "rough it" a little.
Bringing the wagon to Whateley may be no more difficult than modifying its exterior dimensional interface to match a steamer trunk.
Besides, how many kids outside Show Biz can say that they were self-made millionaires before they were 16?”
Loophole may have met that on the Kevra license. 'Shine for sure. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to extrapolate just how badly the techies have been getting screwed over over the years.
While it's only come up with the power testing staff, Tennyo's products are over half a trillion times more valuable than Silver's by unit mass (going by real life market value of antihydrogen: $62.5 trillion / gram according to Google) Though given that she produces it as a plasma, it would likely be more difficult to generate the same weight as Silver. It's also far more difficult to transport and use.
important part of any market is the ability to store, transport and sell the product, you need magnetic bottles to store antimatter, and that means a constant power expenditure and not good for WMDS (harder to keep them from going off than it is to set them off), in addition you need expensive special equipment to use said product meaning few people will purchase it, labs will have their own source and there are cheaper safer means of power generation, it costs a fortune for any amount of it, and there is no real market for it.
There may not be a market in our world, but in the WU there might be a market. Plus she only needs to produce fractions of a gram.
Don't Drick and Drive.
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Valentine wrote:
mhalpern wrote:
Angeldude wrote:
mhalpern wrote:
Well Phase is on the cusp if not already a mostly self made billionaire, yes he started with a pittance of an inheritance, but everything past that is his own hard work. Silver could easily get to that point BY breaking a sweat, her sweat is Mithril which according to the wiki is over $3,000 an ounce, so that's 333 and 1/3 ounces per mil, so about every 90 liters of sweat, not counting 'additional processing' (making enchanted items, use in Orichalcum, or other even unenchanted immediately (or nearly immediately) usable Mithril items. Mobius might be on his way to 1 mil, thanks to Phase and having a very desirable line of products that appear incredibly stable for devises, which means if anyone parses back what he does into real science he better get royalties, there is a list of other potential self made mega rich kids in Whateley who if they don't make themselves millionaires before 16, are likely to at least get very close before 18.null0trooper wrote:
Angeldude wrote: That was quite the adventure. It was said in the story and deserves to be repeated:
Best! Birthday! EVAR!
Revealing that JJ not only was bluffing about not having psychic powers, but was using them the entire time? I did not see that coming.
That part, and the family NOT being in on the Quest, fooled me.
Seriously. Dr. XXX NOT being a red herring? A good bit of sleight-of-mind that.
Angeldude wrote: I wonder is she's seriously going to bring the wagon to Whateley, and if so, will she choose to sleep in it rather than a cotage and where will she put it? Does the school even let students set up their own sleeping arrangements?
Up to a point, personal resources and school security being obvious limits, students can and do set up their own sleeping arrangements. I wouldn't be surprised to find that there's been 1d6 Rope Tricks on-campus set up to exit under a bunk since the early 1980s. The above-par facilities provided the Melvillians are in part to curb the impulse to do so, and instead "rough it" a little.
Bringing the wagon to Whateley may be no more difficult than modifying its exterior dimensional interface to match a steamer trunk.
Besides, how many kids outside Show Biz can say that they were self-made millionaires before they were 16?”
Loophole may have met that on the Kevra license. 'Shine for sure. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to extrapolate just how badly the techies have been getting screwed over over the years.
While it's only come up with the power testing staff, Tennyo's products are over half a trillion times more valuable than Silver's by unit mass (going by real life market value of antihydrogen: $62.5 trillion / gram according to Google) Though given that she produces it as a plasma, it would likely be more difficult to generate the same weight as Silver. It's also far more difficult to transport and use.
important part of any market is the ability to store, transport and sell the product, you need magnetic bottles to store antimatter, and that means a constant power expenditure and not good for WMDS (harder to keep them from going off than it is to set them off), in addition you need expensive special equipment to use said product meaning few people will purchase it, labs will have their own source and there are cheaper safer means of power generation, it costs a fortune for any amount of it, and there is no real market for it.
There may not be a market in our world, but in the WU there might be a market. Plus she only needs to produce fractions of a gram.
the thing is, anyone seeking to responsibly use it, would rather make their own on site, we are talking about the nuclear equivalent of pure, liquid nitroglycerin, being transported along side an operating load speaker, in an earthquake, it only takes fractions of a gram to destroy a city, if it annihilates in an environment where it can produce a shock-wave, (ie anything that isn't near total vacuum)
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Okay, I loved this ending, and it went completely differently than I had thought it would... Well, the ending at least. Everything before Jessie came out went more or less as I had thought it would, but the ending went in the complete opposite direction...
Also, would the fact that we're seeing Seraphina Sophia Valocco again mean that we may be having her story continued sometime soon? Envy is quite possibly my favourite character so fair, though the top 5 competition is quite fierce... and the top 10's barely less so...
We hope so... I know she was one of Bek's considerations when coming-up with Jessie's story.
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Bek D Corbin wrote: Or at least stop quoting?
Thanks for saying that... I was about to note that, yes, its cool that some crazy admin set things up so the quotes work in transparency layers and produce cool color patterns as a result... BUT... seriously. It's not hard to trim quotes for relevancy. If you aren't referring to someone's WHOLE post, don't quote the WHOLE post.
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Malady wrote: So, how magical is Jessie? Does she have more Ess than most anyone short of the profs?
I believe the part about Akelarre expending most of her essence in that fight is true, which means that Jessie should only receive enough essence to place her maybe a decade or three ahead of baseline mages. She should have enough to be able to cast spells relatively freely without the prerequisite years of gathering and holding essence and building it up. Not to mention she already has years of reading on the subject of magic. At least I'd think this to be the case. She should be in good enough stead to keep pace with Wiz traits at Whateley, at any rate.
Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.
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Last note of the night, reply in proper thread guys...: Are drow dependent on Ess like normal Sidhe are?
Good night!
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Bit of a correction. While there are legitimate self-made millionaires on campus, as has been pointed out (Loophole and 'Shine being two of them), Ayla is NOT one of them. He got 300 million as an INHERITANCE.Angeldude wrote:
I can name one that you'll likely be meeting at your new school. On that note, is anyone willing to write a microscene of Jessie and Ayla have a Poe cottage pillow fight where the pillows are stuffed with cash?Besides, how many kids outside Show Biz can say that they were self-made millionaires before they were 16?”
True, he went from there to over a billion in a few months... but having this sort of startup capital on hand puts in question even calling Ayla a "self-made billionaire." How much "self-made" one is with this kind of leg up? Even if it's a pittance over how much money he was raised to expect to have? (Remember, he expected to inherit roughly TEN TIMES his current net worth).
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Sir Lee wrote:
Bit of a correction. While there are legitimate self-made millionaires on campus, as has been pointed out (Loophole and 'Shine being two of them), Ayla is NOT one of them. He got 300 million as an INHERITANCE.Angeldude wrote:
I can name one that you'll likely be meeting at your new school. On that note, is anyone willing to write a microscene of Jessie and Ayla have a Poe cottage pillow fight where the pillows are stuffed with cash?Besides, how many kids outside Show Biz can say that they were self-made millionaires before they were 16?”
True, he went from there to over a billion in a few months... but having this sort of startup capital on hand puts in question even calling Ayla a "self-made billionaire." How much "self-made" one is with this kind of leg up? Even if it's a pittance over how much money he was raised to expect to have? (Remember, he expected to inherit roughly TEN TIMES his current net worth).
Ahh but strictly speaking Ayla IS able to claim the accomplishment, at least to people who only know the "official" story about how he got his starting money, that is a tragic car accident involving a truck that left Ayla and Gracie without parents, and someone who would compile such a list in-universe for the legally self made, without meeting the people in question, would put Ayla on such a list.
So Ayla being a self made millionaire/billionaire is true, from a certain point of view.
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Just a little thing I spotted. The only Louis the Just we got here in France was Louis XIII, about 3 centuries after the end of the Templars. They were disbanded (and robbed) because of Philip IV the Fair (or Iron King if you go for another Englsh nickname).
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She mentioned keeping onto Akelerre's caravan for college, which suggests she's content with dorming at Whateley - almost certainly at Melville (wealthy, no obvious issues, gender change was unconventional but sort-of planned, rather than as a side-effect of her mutation).
Thinking of the Academy, Viv may be going in the same year (assuming she secures sufficient funding), at least one invitee to the party is already at Whateley, while at least one is pre-registered to go as soon as they manifest (possibly Angelica Heller, given she's 8 months younger than JJ and hasn't manifested yet, possibly Ariel Oberon, possibly someone else).
On the changeling front, there's Sophia (Fina), who seemed to be about the only other person wishing they were somewhere else and briefly hung out with JJ in awkward silence before she was called away, plus Mr. Magic's child, Gwen (formerly Artie).
Finally...
“Oh, British superheroes are a reasonable lot for the most part, and British Law Enforcement is very professional. But the British MEDIA? Now THEY are NASTY!”
Oh yes, definitely! Especially a rag commonly nicknamed the Daily Wail (its editorial policy seems to be "The End Of The World Is Nigh", and seems to excel at finding demographics to blame). There's also The Sun (of "Freddie Starr Ate My Hamster!" and Page 3 fame, owned by Rupert "Fox" Murdoch and allegedly the best-selling newspaper in the UK... except in Liverpool).
As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!
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Fake news!mittfh wrote: Oh yes, definitely! Especially a rag commonly nicknamed the Daily Wail (its editorial policy seems to be "The End Of The World Is Nigh", and seems to excel at finding demographics to blame). There's also The Sun (of "Freddie Starr Ate My Hamster!" and Page 3 fame, owned by Rupert "Fox" Murdoch and allegedly the best-selling newspaper in the UK... except in Liverpool).
I don't know about your side, but we call it "The Daily Fail" on this side of the pond, fyi.

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Arcanist Lupus wrote: In hindsight, Jessie accepted the Highwayman's identity as JD far too quickly. The well-trained child of a supervillain family in a world filled with shapeshifters and illusionists would not be so quick to accept that claim unless they had other information about the subject that we were unaware of.
But which what'shisname, the Highwayman, bought because he doesn't have anywhere near enough experience.
Good thing Jesse got him before the real Highwayman decided to look him up. Actually, that was probably a huge tip off that it wasn't JD. Jessie's family, including JD, would respect code names and be unlikely to steal one.
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Katssun wrote: I don't know about your side, but we call it "The Daily Fail" on this side of the pond, fyi.
The Daily Fail is also used this side of the pond, as well as another rhyme deriving from their owner's support for the German and Italian leaders in the early 1930s...
As for the other newspapers...
Beginner's Guide to British Newspapers
(From 1980, several years before the same joke turned up in Yes, Prime Minister - hence why it doesn't include The Independent, launched in 1984).
As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!
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The passages that cover Strega and Envy in The Final Trump seem like a pretty standard cameo, but when I was looking them over again, there's definitely something off about them. Hiding something really interesting.
This introduces us to Angelica, who's reactions and familiarity with JJ play an important role.a petite girl with her dark brown hair in an over-elaborate hairdo, who was trying way too hard to look older and sophisticated, when JJ knew all-too well that she was eight months younger than he was.
Angelica is more annoyed that she's been suddenly upstaged by two far more attractive and sophisticated women. What she's been trying to ape at this party.“You have a very off idea of ‘interesting,” Angelica sneered. She said that she was looking around for something to drink, but she pointedly ignored the punch bowl, the bottles of sparkling water, and the cans of soft drinks. She was warming up to make some sort of snotty remark when the chime rang and the elevator opened. Two women, actually a woman and a teenage girl, stepped out. Angelica was just about to make a remark when she froze, mouth open, and groaned, “Ohh… bugger…”
The woman and girl, obviously mother and daughter, in one of those slightly creepy near-lookalike situations that was emphasized by the nearly identical sheath dresses and high heels they wore. The woman was a classic Italian beauty in the mode of Sophia Loren or Monica Bellucci, with a squarish face, magnificent cheekbones, upturned nose, large almond-shaped incredibly green eyes, wide full lips and small chin. She had long silky midnight black hair pulled back in a deceptively simple arrangement. The sheath dress didn’t conceal, but rather framed a magnificent body with delicious curves, and long slinky legs. The girl looked like her mother, stepped back in time.
This is where things suddenly get super interesting. We knew back in Envy and Gilded Cage that Strega was Mrs. Valocco, and now we learn that her name is Celestina. But the important part here is that Angelica didn't recognize her as Strega, but she immediately recognized her as Celestina Valocco, and got super excited. Then Angelica blathers on about the news that "Celestina" has come out about secret daughter and it was a big deal. First name usage after she recognized her? That's how people treat celebrities. Veeeeerrry Interesting...“Omigawd!” Angelica gasped, “That’s Celestina Valocco! What’s Celestina Valocco doing here?”
“Same as we are,” Ariel smirked. “She’s also the Black Strega. What? Doesn’t your daddy let you in on little trade secrets like that?” Ariel’s smirk dropped. “But who’s the girl? And where’s Fino?”
“Didn’t you hear?” Angelica said with a retaliatory snip, “Celestina’s got a daughter who nobody knew about until there was a thing in Massachusetts a few weeks ago.”
‘Yeah, I remember that,” JJ said. “But still… where’s Fino?”
Seth has the same reaction to seeing, not just Envy's equally attractive mom, but seeing Celestina Valocco.Seth smirked, not taking his eyes off Sophia’s cleavage.
“You DO know that my mother’s right over there?” Sophia pointed over to where Celestina was holding court, with the Count, Latigo, Ace, and Prof. Oberon all in rapt attendance.
Seth’s gaze flickered in that direction on pure reflex, but the sight of Celestina Valocco in that sheath dress reached out and seized his teenage horndog attention. Looking back and forth between mother and daughter, Seth’s sleek veneer of cool cracked badly. “Hah? How?”
But from Envy and the Gilded Cage, we know that the Valocco's are connected to the Cosa Nostra and the Syndicate through business and favors, but aren't officially affiliated with either. It's "Uncle" Paulie in the way that close mafia friends are, and Strega obviously has Syndicate connections with her reputation. But they aren't direct family, and Paulie deals with them despite the mafia mutant policy.
So, interestingly enough...Black Strega is not her only reputation.
We learned that Strega is Celestina Valocco...but who exactly is Celestina Valocco?!
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It's a stark contrast to Dr. Dad and Gizmatic, where their public and villain names are both known. Strega is a BIG deal, but her identity as Celestina Valocco is in her own right.
Strega has been prominently active since at least 1953, per this story.
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Katssun wrote: The criminal elements know that they're one in the same, but Ariel's line to Angelica implies that not everyone is in the know, while Angelica's lines and Seth's reaction indicate that Celestina Valocco is better known than Strega in the current timeline.
It's a stark contrast to Dr. Dad and Gizmatic, where their public and villain names are both known. Strega is a BIG deal, but her identity as Celestina Valocco is in her own right.
Strega has been prominently active since at least 1953, per this story.
Well, it also seems like she was active during WW2 too according to Envy 3, and probably before. After all, you can't have comics printed about you if you're a nobody. Although she was Strega for said comics.
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Well, it is for some people , although that's a Latin American tradition, and the Harrows are French and British. But then, this is America, and we're all about that hot cultural melting pot action! No, never mind those cheeto stains on the white house. Melting pots!Arcanist Lupus wrote: (15 isn't a particularly significant year, but they've pulled out all the stops for the party, so it probably still counts as 'big')
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These are the appropriately aged kids.
Angelica Heller - not manifested
Ariel Oberon -
Seraphina Sophia Valocco - Envy
Akateko Kaito
Tenka Kaito
Seth Eden
Arsene Pellegrini-St. Germaine
Teddy -
Gwen -
So which of these are students in Spring 2007?
Don't Drick and Drive.
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Seth is, or at least may become, a Legacy Mage than a mutant-trait mage.
And Teddy has manifested his mutant trait- his dad, Boulder, was just yanking Nick's chain.
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Bek D Corbin wrote: Well, the Kaitos aren't mutants, and their paranormal abilities are more the product of training and possession of esoteric objects than personal empowerment, so Akateko and Tenka aren't going. And even if they did have innate powers, they'd be far more likely to attend the Yama Dojo than Whateley.
Seth is, or at least may become, a Legacy Mage than a mutant-trait mage.
And Teddy has manifested his mutant trait- his dad, Boulder, was just yanking Nick's chain.
I don't think that Teddy would be gushing over the Mystical Arts program.
Don't Drick and Drive.
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“AND! And, just to complete the set, there’s the GizMassacre430!” He picked up and hefted a boxy carbine weapon. “The GizMassacre isn’t just another plasma weapon, it is THE most versatile weapon ever designed! It can adapt to over 15 different configurations, six basic energy type settings, including good old kinetic impact, and in conjunction with the GizRat, it can be adjusted so that it can either batter down, or just GO THROUGH almost any PFG field on the market! WOO!” Shane finished with a whoop. Well, he’s a Wilkins all right; he loves his job.
“One of Dr. Smart’s claims to fame- besides a well-earned reputation as an Adventuring and Investigative Scientist- is that she has developed one of the most versatile and effective handheld energy weapons ever devised! The Stinger is basically a very versatile vari-phase plasma weapon, but she’s rigged it somehow so that it has functioned as a high power laser, maser, photon accelerator, neural inhibitor, sonic weapon, vibratory agitator, gravity modulators and even a molecular cohesion inhibitor!”
Asking for a friend.
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Katssun wrote: So, which is better, the Stinger, or the GizMassacre430?
“AND! And, just to complete the set, there’s the GizMassacre430!” He picked up and hefted a boxy carbine weapon. “The GizMassacre isn’t just another plasma weapon, it is THE most versatile weapon ever designed! It can adapt to over 15 different configurations, six basic energy type settings, including good old kinetic impact, and in conjunction with the GizRat, it can be adjusted so that it can either batter down, or just GO THROUGH almost any PFG field on the market! WOO!” Shane finished with a whoop. Well, he’s a Wilkins all right; he loves his job.
“One of Dr. Smart’s claims to fame- besides a well-earned reputation as an Adventuring and Investigative Scientist- is that she has developed one of the most versatile and effective handheld energy weapons ever devised! The Stinger is basically a very versatile vari-phase plasma weapon, but she’s rigged it somehow so that it has functioned as a high power laser, maser, photon accelerator, neural inhibitor, sonic weapon, vibratory agitator, gravity modulators and even a molecular cohesion inhibitor!”
Asking for a friend.
They are always asking for a "friend."
Don't Drick and Drive.
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The Stinger, OTOH, is a one-of-a-kind, custom-made job. I would bet... an entire tray of croissants that it handily beats the production GizMassacre. Whether it beats the custom GizMassacre in Joe Wilkins' personal arsenal is harder to say.
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Katssun wrote:
This is where things suddenly get super interesting. We knew back in Envy and Gilded Cage that Strega was Mrs. Valocco, and now we learn that her name is Celestina. But the important part here is that Angelica didn't recognize her as Strega, but she immediately recognized her as Celestina Valocco, and got super excited. Then Angelica blathers on about the news that "Celestina" has come out about secret daughter and it was a big deal. First name usage after she recognized her? That's how people treat celebrities. Veeeeerrry Interesting...“Same as we are,” Ariel smirked. “She’s also the Black Strega. What? Doesn’t your daddy let you in on little trade secrets like that?” Ariel’s smirk dropped. “But who’s the girl? And where’s Fino?”
“Didn’t you hear?” Angelica said with a retaliatory snip, “Celestina’s got a daughter who nobody knew about until there was a thing in Massachusetts a few weeks ago.”
‘Yeah, I remember that,” JJ said. “But still… where’s Fino?”Seth has the same reaction to seeing, not just Envy's equally attractive mom, but seeing Celestina Valocco.Seth smirked, not taking his eyes off Sophia’s cleavage.
“You DO know that my mother’s right over there?” Sophia pointed over to where Celestina was holding court, with the Count, Latigo, Ace, and Prof. Oberon all in rapt attendance.
Seth’s gaze flickered in that direction on pure reflex, but the sight of Celestina Valocco in that sheath dress reached out and seized his teenage horndog attention. Looking back and forth between mother and daughter, Seth’s sleek veneer of cool cracked badly. “Hah? How?”
But from Envy and the Gilded Cage, we know that the Valocco's are connected to the Cosa Nostra and the Syndicate through business and favors, but aren't officially affiliated with either. It's "Uncle" Paulie in the way that close mafia friends are, and Strega obviously has Syndicate connections with her reputation. But they aren't direct family, and Paulie deals with them despite the mafia mutant policy.
So, interestingly enough...Black Strega is not her only reputation.
We learned that Strega is Celestina Valocco...but who exactly is Celestina Valocco?!
I also picked up something too: Ariel and JJ knew about Fino, but I got the sense that Angelica didn't. Given that, and the fact that a) she used a fake apartment as Fino's official address, b) their actual home was made to like an ordinary suburban house from the outside, and c) no one at school seems to have any clue who Fino's mother was, tells me that while she might be in the limelight, she's assiduously kept her child out of it until now. Since at least some people (including the FBI) are aware of the connection, hiding Fino until he/she manifested was a sensible move, and Strega is nothing if not sensible (or at least ruthlessly pragmatic) in matters like those.
Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
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And did they manage to room with each other?
Don't Drick and Drive.
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...and Strega answered.
As for rooming together? I imagine a healthy donation assisted. After all, Strega wants a role model for Fina who is comfortable in her own skin.

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Is Clarice's teenage daughter, Nicolette? 'Cause in 2016, Nicolette is seventeen years old...
But the Gage Daughter is called "a trim, confident teenager with champagne-colored hair and her mother’s less-than-fortunate nose was subordinate to her mother"
The Final Trump is happening in 2007, ten years before 2016, so Nicolette would be seven years old... Certainly not a teenager...
Did something happen to the older Gage daughter, or people aren't who we think they are??
Or WMG: the Gage Daughter is Madeline, disguised...
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As near as I can tell part 4 of this is contemporary withmhalpern wrote: So what idiot threw a Drow in lockup?
The Drow is Jobe...
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