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8 years 1 day ago - 8 years 1 day ago #1 by Yolandria

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Another Imp-possibly fun story set in the 1st Gen timeline for our viewing pleasure.

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8 years 1 day ago #2 by Dpragan

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Standard school files any teacher could get likely with a fake note and listening bugs at the bottom of the candy...although I would hate for her to give up her collection.

Who Knows maybe Reach will take some of her classes just so he can be a better investigator...and they so need a investigator club so s/he isn't stuck so much with the secret squirrels.

S/he's more like a detective in a noir novel than a spy from the new police state.

...but this is just my guess and opinion, s/he can learn a lot from Imp.

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8 years 1 day ago #3 by Valentine

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Those poor poor Secret Squirrels.

So what kind of candy would Imp put in a safe?

Smarties?

Chuckles?

Milk Duds?

Laffy Taffy?

Or maybe just Suckers?

It is the Imp after all.

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8 years 23 hours ago - 8 years 8 hours ago #4 by Jarjaross

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I must say the Imp has gone down in my estimation. For one simple reason, she used female pronouns with Ayla.

I realize it is not common knowledge that Ayla identifies as male but she has been shown to do research on people who interest her. Ayla clearly intrests her (why wouldn't he, a Goodkind who is polite to GSD students would interest anyone willing to look past his well past) and Ayla doesn't hide anything about ~~her~~ his identity.

Someone is going to mention rumours or bad information, but do you really think that ould keep out the likes of the Imp.

I will admit I find it hard to use male pronouns for Ayla upon occaision, but there is no remorse or trying to catch herself.

Edit: thank you Arcanist.

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8 years 23 hours ago #5 by mhalpern

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My bet is that it will be IMPossible for the secret squirrels to find the mole. Because to do so would IMPly that they would have to admit that the idea of them being played isn't IMPconcievable.

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8 years 23 hours ago #6 by Dreamer

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SPOILER ALERT
Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.

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8 years 22 hours ago #7 by annachie

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I was half expecting acopy of the Lord Paramont picture to show up in the story.

But then again. Someone is getting a fez whether they want it or not. I can just feel it.

8 years 22 hours ago #8 by Valentine

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Those poor poor really dumb Secret Squirrels.

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8 years 21 hours ago #9 by Wrayth

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I'm not sure what it is about the Spy kids, but I am having a hard time with their fanaticism/prejudice. They have been warned several times that their actions are unacceptable, yet they keep going that step too far. Reach, who seems the sanest of the bunch, raises objections, but doesn't take the bull by the horns and go to their faculty adviser.

Hmmm... or is Reach acting under orders? I guess we shall see, hopefully soon with the prodigious amount of stories that are currently going into the que.

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8 years 20 hours ago #10 by Arcanist Lupus

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Jarjaross wrote: I must say the Imp has gone down in my estimation. For one simple reason, she used female pronouns with Ayla.

I realize it is not common knowledge that Ayla identifies as male but she has been shown to do research on people who interest her. Ayla clearly intrests her (why wouldn't he, a Goodkind who is polite to GSD students would interest anyone willing to look past his well past) and Ayla doesn't hide anything about her identity.

Someone is going to mention rumours or bad information, but do you really think that ould keep out the likes of the Imp.

I will admit I find it hard to use male pronouns for Ayla upon occaision, but there is no remorse or trying to catch herself.

There's a particular irony hidden in your post. Can you spot it?

Have we seen Imp researching people she likes, or does her research mostly focus on people she dislikes/might have a problem with?

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8 years 20 hours ago #11 by Kettlekorn

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Also, there is finite time in the day, and she's been busy making lesson plans, building death traps, supplying security with eggs, and generally making a good imp-pression around the campus.

Speaking of imp-pressions...

Imp 5 Head over Tail! (part 1) wrote: “The Imp and I were just doing a little training.”

Is that what they call it these days?

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8 years 19 hours ago - 8 years 19 hours ago #12 by Katssun

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Dreamer wrote: Why is Tabby Cat coming at her?

At Arena 77 and Imp has set up a Rube Goldberg machine, ACID marked on a large container at the end and Tabby Cat tied up right beneath the container. Saying she will never get away with this, why do I have the feeling Tabby Cat asked Imp to do this for some reason and it is harmless, not acid. Wallflower shows up and is told to stay back, something is definitely up. And I was right, Tabby Cat breaks free but gets some of the 'acid' splashed onto her leg, it is lemon lime Gatorade.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who's first reaction was that Tabby Cat has some weird fantasies.

It was also cute that Tabby Cat kept an interest in robberies...for academic and security professional purposes. Everyone has to have a hobby.

Wrayth wrote: I'm not sure what it is about the Spy kids, but I am having a hard time with their fanaticism/prejudice. They have been warned several times that their actions are unacceptable, yet they keep going that step too far. Reach, who seems the sanest of the bunch, raises objections, but doesn't take the bull by the horns and go to their faculty adviser.

They're comedy relief pretty much everywhere they appear, no?

Imp is tricking them right into a live-action cartoon, with Reach being the, "Well...I dunno Mugsy, this sounds like a baaaad idea..." character and "Shaddup you!!" say the rest.

It's just that Imp, in her own gentle way, has found a way for them to occupy themselves without harming or harassing (mostly) innocent students like they usually do. Maybe Westmont will ask for her help in planning distractions for them in the future? She enjoys cat and mouse games for the most part.

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The dangerously prejudiced students are in the Cape Squad, or trying to get into it. That's why the Security Auxiliaries tend to come from the Wild Pack, or students with some objectivity about things.

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8 years 16 hours ago #13 by mhalpern

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Jarjaross wrote: I must say the Imp has gone down in my estimation. For one simple reason, she used female pronouns with Ayla.

I realize it is not common knowledge that Ayla identifies as male but she has been shown to do research on people who interest her. Ayla clearly intrests her (why wouldn't he, a Goodkind who is polite to GSD students would interest anyone willing to look past his well past) and Ayla doesn't hide anything about her identity.

Someone is going to mention rumours or bad information, but do you really think that ould keep out the likes of the Imp.

I will admit I find it hard to use male pronouns for Ayla upon occaision, but there is no remorse or trying to catch herself.

She hasn't asked what pronouns Ayla prefers, while it wouldn't be hard to learn that he's intersexed, the fact that he's registered as female and only people who are considered Ayla's friends or deal with him a lot know, it very well could be that she doesn't know, and she isn't the type to put stock in rumors.

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8 years 14 hours ago #14 by Mister D

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Wonderful set-ups for the next chapters.

I'll bet two bricks that there isn't a mole, and that the Sekret Squizzels IMP-lode over this, a la, Sierra Madre.

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8 years 14 hours ago #15 by mhalpern

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Arcanist Lupus wrote:
Jarjaross wrote: I must say the Imp has gone down in my estimation. For one simple reason, she used female pronouns with Ayla.

I realize it is not common knowledge that Ayla identifies as male but she has been shown to do research on people who interest her. Ayla clearly intrests her (why wouldn't he, a Goodkind who is polite to GSD students would interest anyone willing to look past his well past) and Ayla doesn't hide anything about her identity.

Someone is going to mention rumours or bad information, but do you really think that ould keep out the likes of the Imp.

I will admit I find it hard to use male pronouns for Ayla upon occaision, but there is no remorse or trying to catch herself.
There's a particular irony hidden in your post. Can you spot it?

Have we seen Imp researching people she likes, or does her research mostly focus on people she dislikes/might have a problem with?

Well I can think of one example of Imp having researched someone she likes, being Superhawk, but at the time he was in the "might have a problem with" category... One major thing is that other than being a student, Ayla is someone who may one day purchase her artwork, acts that way and is clearly conditioned for professionalism as a default attitude, even if someone didn't know his background, they could identify that within minutes, unless you manage to get past the professionalism wall, he will come off as boring to someone like Imp, in fact it is the fact that he is boringly respectful AND a Goodkind that Imp finds interesting, the shear principle of it.

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8 years 9 hours ago #16 by null0trooper

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Jarjaross wrote: I will admit I find it hard to use male pronouns for Ayla upon occaision, but there is no remorse or trying to catch herself.

This objectively should not be a problem for Imp's internal dialogue. Nearly every other teacher outwardly refers to Ayla directly as "Miss Goodkind" without remorse or trying to catch themselves. Nor is it a problem for Ayla's cover persona, which is female.

The fact of the matter is that unless Ayla asks Imp to use male pronouns when speaking to him, Imp has no reason to be concerned at all with what's really under the hood. Not with a student studying art. In canon, we've mostly seen him correct people who are directly interested in whether he's physically a boy or girl.

For espers who can and do read auras (Fubar, Jade, Nikki, Chou, my OCs) that would be an entirely valid complaint. My impression there is that they should be picking up on Ayla's dominant animus.

Also, I don't think ever seen Imp pawing through someone medical records before.

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8 years 8 hours ago #17 by Jarjaross

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To everyone saying that Imp wouldn't do research on Ayla because she does research on her enemies I remind you that Ayla is a Goodkind, thus the initial distrust and a good reason to look into him.

To those saying it would be hard to find out, how many gadgeteers and devisors know Ayla? They all deal with him as a business partner on a regular basis and most of the ones I recall refer to Ayla with male terms. The same can be said about many of the thornies. Thus we can deduce that it is at least somewhat common knowledge in two groups which Imp would have an interest in supporting (or at least I think she has an interest in supporting tech people, security systems and all that, I may be wrong).

8 years 6 hours ago - 8 years 6 hours ago #18 by peter

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Late to the class again with my comments.

Couple of things that popped into my head while reading. Did Ace get the Morocco reference, or jump to the mole conclusion while being oblivious? Frankly, considering their detested nickname I would think badly of them if they hadn't done at least a little research on the origin of the epithet.

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8 years 6 hours ago #19 by mhalpern

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I know what kind of candy is in the safe, the kind with some VERY strong alcohol mixed in.

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7 years 11 months ago #20 by null0trooper

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peter wrote: Couple of things that popped into my head while reading. Did Ace get the Morocco reference, or jump to the mole conclusion while being oblivious?

It's the sort of devious, underhanded plot that The Bad Guys (tm) are always getting away with. It's patently obvious that "Morocco" is the sort of code name a total ditz like the Imp is said to be (by reliable sources like Mr. Williams!) would think up for an informant.

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7 years 11 months ago #21 by Cryptic

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I find it hilarious that the Cadets have been called Secret Squirrels to their faces AND NONE OF THEM HAVE LOOKED IT UP!!

Hmm there's a scene in that...

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7 years 11 months ago #22 by peter

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Well, clear now that they had no idea at all who Morroco is.

And the red herring?

They are suffering from a bad case of 'can't see the trees for the forest'

You know, one of the worst thing an investigator, or a scientist, can do, is to figure out the answer first, and then try to make the data fit it.

A good investigator assumes nothing.

I'm still on record of hoping Reach at least learns a valuable lesson at the end of this sit-com episode.

7 years 11 months ago #23 by mhalpern

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Well I wonder if the Students are betting on this too..

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7 years 11 months ago #24 by Dreamer

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7 years 11 months ago #25 by Sir Lee

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I don't think Reach NEEDS to learn a lesson here. S/he is the only one who appears to be looking at it all objectively. I mean, Reach was the one who figured out the "red herring" thing. I'm a bit disappointed with Holdout, back in "The Big Idea" he seemed to be a reasonable guy. Ace is still a sanctimonious idiot, though.

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7 years 11 months ago #26 by Katssun

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Heh, Melissa's roommate is Maxine...aka Lodestone...aka Ironworks.

Pretend villain-in-training rooming with an actual one.

7 years 11 months ago - 7 years 11 months ago #27 by Arcanist Lupus

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Katssun wrote: Heh, Melissa's roommate is Maxine...aka Lodestone...aka Ironworks.

Pretend villain-in-training rooming with an actual one.

Nice catch!

All and all, lots of good fun. I hope we see more of puzzle girl.

Also, it's kind of interesting to see that for all Imp exaggerates her ego and plays it for laughs, she does feel really strongly about her artwork. She hasn't been in a position yet where somebody criticized her artwork (or worse, destroyed it), but I bet that the perpetrator would end up with a target on their back the size of a tail puller.

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7 years 11 months ago #28 by JG

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Oh I guarantee she's been in a position where her work has been criticized.

Some Art snobs would likely call her work cartoonish and base at best in art aficionado societies.

We just haven't seen how Imp reacts to them.

7 years 11 months ago #29 by annachie

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JG wrote: Oh I guarantee she's been in a position where her work has been criticized.

Some Art snobs would likely call her work cartoonish and base at best in art aficionado societies.

We just haven't seen how Imp reacts to them.

They're probably the people that now have a nice collection of forgeries.

7 years 11 months ago #30 by Valentine

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Katssun wrote: Heh, Melissa's roommate is Maxine...aka Lodestone...aka Ironworks.

Pretend villain-in-training rooming with an actual one.

So does the child of a henchman qualify one for the Badseeds? Hmmm, I wonder which of the 'Seeds would complain about her not being the daughter of Supervillain, but just of a Villain?

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7 years 11 months ago #31 by mhalpern

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peter wrote: Well, clear now that they had no idea at all who Morroco is.

And the red herring?

They are suffering from a bad case of 'can't see the trees for the forest'

You know, one of the worst thing an investigator, or a scientist, can do, is to figure out the answer first, and then try to make the data fit it.

A good investigator assumes nothing.

I'm still on record of hoping Reach at least learns a valuable lesson at the end of this sit-com episode.

The other bad thing they are doing is they haven't done an ounce of research just took one person's accusations as sufficient to go off of, Imp was in the business for 30 years, her rules should be available on line, one of them is exactly what you would want in a teacher, don't harm children, a good investigator would ask people questions, before investigating in the field, and it isn't hard to venture that Imp did not consider being an art thief as her first choice of occupation.

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7 years 11 months ago #32 by Naldru

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Imp is actually giving the Intelligence Cadet Corps (Spy Kids, Secret Squirrels) a very practical course in intelligence operations by showing them topics that they need to be better in.

Using and countering psychological warfare

Identifying planted evidence

Evaluating the credibility of information and avoiding improper assumptions

Dealing with counter-intelligence actions

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Katssun wrote: Heh, Melissa's roommate is Maxine...aka Lodestone...aka Ironworks.

Pretend villain-in-training rooming with an actual one.

I knew we had seen Maxine before but I couldn't remember where/when, thanks.

I am kinda disappointed in Reach being part of the inquisition but it was in their character to begin with (their first reaction to She-beast etc), I mostly had hoped that they would outgrow their narrow minded view. Maybe the Imp will teach them the valuable lesson they need. (but Reach being the one who catch on the red herring was nice).

Thanks Morpheus.

7 years 11 months ago #34 by jennysass

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Esar wrote:
Katssun wrote: Heh, Melissa's roommate is Maxine...aka Lodestone...aka Ironworks.

Pretend villain-in-training rooming with an actual one.

I knew we had seen Maxine before but I couldn't remember where/when, thanks.

I am kinda disappointed in Reach being part of the inquisition but it was in their character to begin with (their first reaction to She-beast etc), I mostly had hoped that they would outgrow their narrow minded view. Maybe the Imp will teach them the valuable lesson they need. (but Reach being the one who catch on the red herring was nice).

Thanks Morpheus.

I doubt Reach is going to see past the end of their own nose on this one, especially not while hanging out with the Squirrels. That being said, Reach's nose can get pretty long, so...

7 years 11 months ago #35 by Dpragan

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I think Reach is Phoning this one in, I wonder if he is planning on starting a law enforcement club (for those who plan to become cops, detectives, or other first responders)

I think Aquerna might have an interest in that...

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Dpragan wrote: I think Reach is Phoning this one in, I wonder if he is planning on starting a law enforcement club (for those who plan to become cops, detectives, or other first responders)

I think Aquerna might have an interest in that...

Other than maybe "Whateley Neutrality" there's no reason there couldn't be a Police Explorers program. Thinking about it, it sounds like something Shieldwall would be interested in, among the G2 cohort.

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7 years 11 months ago #37 by Sir Lee

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"Whateley Neutrality" is not an obstacle to such a program -- otherwise, they couldn't have a JROTC program and clubs like the FSA wouldn't get a charter. In fact, if anybody wants to found a "Future Supervillains" club, they could point to the FSA and the neutrality clause as arguments for their charter to be accepted. OTOH, they might prefer to stay a clandestine club (like, say, C.O.R.E., or for a less successful attempt to stay in the shadows, the Masterminds) in order not to draw attention to themselves.

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7 years 11 months ago #38 by Jarjaross

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Valentine wrote:
Katssun wrote: Heh, Melissa's roommate is Maxine...aka Lodestone...aka Ironworks.

Pretend villain-in-training rooming with an actual one.

So does the child of a henchman qualify one for the Badseeds? Hmmm, I wonder which of the 'Seeds would complain about her not being the daughter of Supervillain, but just of a Villain?

Yes they would be accepted. Some of the gen 1 badseeds are the children of 'Super villains' that are essentially hired muscle with a fancy name. Can't remember which ones though, they talk about their parent surprisingly little given the premise of the club.

7 years 11 months ago #39 by Valentine

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Jarjaross wrote:
Valentine wrote:
Katssun wrote: Heh, Melissa's roommate is Maxine...aka Lodestone...aka Ironworks.

Pretend villain-in-training rooming with an actual one.

So does the child of a henchman qualify one for the Badseeds? Hmmm, I wonder which of the 'Seeds would complain about her not being the daughter of Supervillain, but just of a Villain?

Yes they would be accepted. Some of the gen 1 badseeds are the children of 'Super villains' that are essentially hired muscle with a fancy name. Can't remember which ones though, they talk about their parent surprisingly little given the premise of the club.

Yes, but their parent is a mutant or otherwise paranormal. Her dad was a mook, a normal thug.

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7 years 11 months ago #40 by Arcanist Lupus

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The purpose of the Bad Seeds is to create a safe space for students who might be rejected by other groups on campus because of their parentage on the wrong side of the law. Being elitist about who can join would run contrary to that purpose, I think. They're unlikely to invite Maxine to join (even if they knew that her father was a criminal), but I'd imagine that they'd welcome her if she started to face discrimination by the other students based on her father's occupation.

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7 years 11 months ago - 7 years 11 months ago #41 by DanZilla

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Arcanist Lupus wrote: The purpose of the Bad Seeds is to create a safe space for students who might be rejected by other groups on campus because of their parentage on the wrong side of the law. Being elitist about who can join would run contrary to that purpose, I think. They're unlikely to invite Maxine to join (even if they knew that her father was a criminal), but I'd imagine that they'd welcome her if she started to face discrimination by the other students based on her father's occupation.

Yep... pretty much. The thing is that like any "exclusive" group the attitudes are going to depend on the current members and any "coaching" that comes from previous members or direction from a leader figure... whether that be faculty or internal. Last year the Seniors were pretty hands-off with the younger Seeds so we saw how they behaved in that current social grouping with minimal interference. We'll have to see how the group shapes-up with the new year. I WILL say that there are multiple plans on things for them to do and get into by the authors, in addition to new members, and some of the speculation may get addressed as we get into it all... Heck, a few spring stories that involve them are still trickling through production as well...

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7 years 11 months ago #42 by Sir Lee

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Let me point out that currently the Bad Seeds don't have leaders. And She-Beast is the most respected of the leaders they don't have.

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7 years 11 months ago #43 by Yolandria

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With the most feared being Jobe.

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7 years 11 months ago #44 by annachie

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Jarjaross wrote:
Valentine wrote:
Katssun wrote: Heh, Melissa's roommate is Maxine...aka Lodestone...aka Ironworks.

Pretend villain-in-training rooming with an actual one.

So does the child of a henchman qualify one for the Badseeds? Hmmm, I wonder which of the 'Seeds would complain about her not being the daughter of Supervillain, but just of a Villain?

Yes they would be accepted. Some of the gen 1 badseeds are the children of 'Super villains' that are essentially hired muscle with a fancy name. Can't remember which ones though, they talk about their parent surprisingly little given the premise of the club.

Hmm, Isn't Jade's father a henchman of some sort?

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Katssun wrote: Heh, Melissa's roommate is Maxine...aka Lodestone...aka Ironworks.

Pretend villain-in-training rooming with an actual one.

:wall: ... And I was so focused on if she was actually a Sidhe! ... *sigh*

Well, she got to Whateley somehow... Willingly or not, is unknown, as well as if she fulfilled her mission of revenge?

The room assignments for the more sensitive cases, like Red, Oak, Razorback, etc, aren't random, so is Maxine a random assignment, or not??

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7 years 11 months ago #46 by Katssun

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Yolandria wrote: With the most feared being Jobe.

I believe that title belongs to Psike (prior to graduating in 2007), and after that, it is a toss up between Jobe or Nacht.

7 years 11 months ago #47 by Arcanist Lupus

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Sir Lee wrote: Let me point out that currently the Bad Seeds don't have leaders. And She-Beast is the most respected of the leaders they don't have.

She's the Granny Weatherwax of Whateley!

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7 years 11 months ago #48 by Valentine

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Arcanist Lupus wrote: The purpose of the Bad Seeds is to create a safe space for students who might be rejected by other groups on campus because of their parentage on the wrong side of the law. Being elitist about who can join would run contrary to that purpose, I think. They're unlikely to invite Maxine to join (even if they knew that her father was a criminal), but I'd imagine that they'd welcome her if she started to face discrimination by the other students based on her father's occupation.

I wasn't contemplating if the Bad Seeds as a group would reject her, but individual members. Jadis, Thrash, Winter, Dragonrider, and others wouldn't be bothered that her father wasn't a mutant, but Nephandus, and Jobe (well Jobe is pretty much a jerk to everyone) might be a bit put off that she isn't the daughter of a real supervillain.

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annachie wrote:
Jarjaross wrote:
Valentine wrote:
Katssun wrote: Heh, Melissa's roommate is Maxine...aka Lodestone...aka Ironworks.

Pretend villain-in-training rooming with an actual one.

So does the child of a henchman qualify one for the Badseeds? Hmmm, I wonder which of the 'Seeds would complain about her not being the daughter of Supervillain, but just of a Villain?

Yes they would be accepted. Some of the gen 1 badseeds are the children of 'Super villains' that are essentially hired muscle with a fancy name. Can't remember which ones though, they talk about their parent surprisingly little given the premise of the club.

Hmm, Isn't Jade's father a henchman of some sort?

I thank he was just a thug, not connected to any super-villain group, possibly low-rent mafia.

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Isn't Dr Diabolic a baseline? So technically the precedent has already been set.

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konzill wrote: Isn't Dr Diabolic a baseline? So technically the precedent has already been set.

IIRC, he's a Whateley alumnus.

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null0trooper wrote:
konzill wrote: Isn't Dr Diabolic a baseline? So technically the precedent has already been set.

IIRC, he's a Whateley alumnus.

Given that he's 75 in the Gen 1 timeline, he would have been around 30 when the school opened.

He may have attended in it's previous incarnation though.

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The main point is not if he is or isn't a mutant; the main point is that he's a NAME villain. Known enough that his children are magnets for harassment.

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So, I really loved that Imp turned it into a valuable teaching moment, really showing that she's not just having fun on the side, she truly does take this job very seriously, something Williams appears to have dropped all pretense of now that she's shown up.

Either way the squirrels take things, at least with most of them, this will stick. They want to be cops, they want to be spies, they needed to learn (a lesson that they didn't pick up from tangling with Jadis) that getting "evidence" through criminal means only works if you're going down the criminal track. Then she even offered to tutor them the same way she's been teaching Melissa! If that's the way they want to go.

It's a shame about Geist. She's taking the side-feud with Melissa too personally, when they're separate issues. I hope she doesn't get expelled following Williams' "advice," but I guess she deserves it if she doesn't learn the way the others clearly have.

I do wonder, is Imp going to call Tether or Focus to teach her sign language so she can better talk (and coordinate secretly) with Razor?

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It was great seeing the irony and education from all the shenanigans.

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I do wonder if Imp switched the lock from the Secret Squirrels clubhouse with that of her hideout. It would suit for them to spend all that time cracking the lock when they have the key.

What's the bet that Barney's third strike will involve Mischief and/or Chickenhawk? I figure that's the surefire way to make Fuzzy Wuzzy look like gentle teasing by comparison.

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Fuzzy Wuzzy already looks like gentle teasing compared to what she did to Williams the last time. Imp was done with him when she depilated him and took pictures. Same way she was done with Chickenhawk the first time when she left him upside down in Times Square with his pants down

She still calls Williams Barney because she died his skin purple for a month. She made sure she completely ruined his life the first time. But she let it drop at Whateley because Carson told her to do so.

If When he gets to strike three...

She's going to do something so bad and cover her tracks so well that only Fubar will be able to find any evidence she did anything at all, and I bet he won't tell anyone.

My guess is number two will be Darqueheart or another GSD kid, and number three will be Melissa or compromise her Candice Kade identity.

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Katssun wrote: My guess is number two will be Darqueheart or another GSD kid, and number three will be Melissa or compromise her Candice Kade identity.

This was strike two. Barney only has one strike left before he's out.

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Arcanist Lupus wrote:
Katssun wrote: My guess is number two will be Darqueheart or another GSD kid, and number three will be Melissa or compromise her Candice Kade identity.
This was strike two. Barney only has one strike left before he's out.

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Barney's only catspaw now, is Geist.

And since Geist's grudge is with Mischief, it's gotta involve her. Is it gonna be a Imp, or a Mischief story that ends the Geist plot? Hmm...

Will that revenge take things a lot darker than the comedic attitude of the rest of the Imp series? I don't think so?

I wonder if Geist actually asked Mischief for the stink cure, I think she'd get it...

Mischief turning into a girl in love... Now that's an interesting idea...

There's gonna be a lesson on not fostering grudges and letting things go and stuff?

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Malady wrote: Will that revenge take things a lot darker than the comedic attitude of the rest of the Imp series? I don't think so?

Honestly ? Yes I expect a darker tone for her revenge, maybe not in the "prank" itself but on the consequences it will have. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go down the same kind of road Force took in Morpheus's Legacy Universe.

This last part, and the story as a whole, was really funny. And seeing Ryan at whateley was amazing (you took us by surprise, I was expecting him only for the parent day !).

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I am betting we already got a sneak peak at what Imp is planning for Barney prank wise, swapping out his clothes for the most color clashing dresses possible.

Giest completely misinterpreted Imp saying that Carson knows something about Imp they don't, Imp doesn't put kids in danger if she can help it, she gets kids out of danger when she can, this is a rule Williams clearly doesn't follow, as he believes Imp to be a crazy, dangerous criminal, and he's using kids to try and bring her down. He knew nothing of appropriate force or when it is appropriate to engage someone back when he and Imp danced, and he hasn't learned, he is less of a hero than Imp is, Imp is giving him more credit than he deserves.

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Loved this story, the Teletubbies got a vital lesson and a necessary humiliation to remove some of their narcissism, and it was funny.
I liked how chickenhawk explained to the bartender about her drink ordering habit. It was a nice gesture.
And I get the feeling that Giest or Williams is going to do something particularly cruel or violent to Mischief and we are going to see Imp go full mother bear on his ass. Not just the protectiveness we've seen in the past towards children, but all out war with no chance of surrender or mercy.

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Seeing Imp drive the Teletubbies mad like this was most certainly fun... But I don't think the lesson will sink in the depleted moronium skull of most of them (especially one who only has room for his Dirty Harry trip). Security, their club tutor and pretty much everyone tried to drill that lesson again and again last year, and it seems like it only stuck for Reach and Rez (What are they still doing within this club?). At no moment did they think about 'verify the intel', despite being pretty much burned to the crisp by this last year, playing it at face value, utterly forgetting that someone playing the game for 30 cannot just be a goofball. Frankly, I don't think they'll drop the Idiot Ball and Comic Relief Badge because the *thunderclap* supervillain said they need to clean up the act.

Now, I'm waiting for Barney to go for strike three. Preeeetty sure we'll have some fun when it happens and that couldn't happen to someone more deserving. Go Imp.

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Reach, I think, has been dissatisfied with the Cadets since near the end of his/her freshman year. I think Imp's Lesson might be a wake up call that s/he is in the wrong club or that it need s a lot of revamping.

I also see Reach actually taking Imp up on the offer, Even if s/he is more interested in becoming a DETECTIVE than a Spy.

They Really do need a Law-Enforcment Club. With a Teacher who acts as a Chief and asks them to get Warrents and Probable cause.

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Janice Talbert 's a literal detective of the NYPD.

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Malady wrote: Janice Talbert 's a literal detective of the NYPD.

Remember that Security is Security. Not the Police? ... Or do they serve both roles in G1, in comparison to G2...

She would be the perfect head for the club

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My take is that Reach, Ace, and Kew definitely got the hint. Interface less so (because of the "deathtrap"), Rez got shocked though I'm not sure because she was kind of stupid about Imp confronting them, Holdout and A-Plus possibly missed it, but will pick it up if the others show positive change, and Geist missed it completely because she's pissed at Melissa for being Imp's apprentice.

A-Plus has been known to harbor grudges, but she does come around eventually.

It doesn't help that Geist hasn't gone through the earlier humiliation that the rest of them have, she's just been getting increasingly frustrated treated as a gopher and dealing with Melissa's pranks.

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I think Reach and Rez already had the hint this just cemented it.

Unlike the others she seemed to be "Phoning it in." Her hint came back Diamonds are a Vamp's Best Friend Part 1

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One of the problems that the Spy Kidz have is that Ace is very much invested in the idea of an antihero who fights for what's "right" regardless of rules or laws that might get in the way. That's compounded by his need to be the one in charge, and he tends to be a miserable wanker when he doesn't get his way.

Interface is there to have fun. It's high school after all! Mind you, it's even more fun to be one of the ones "in the know" when the adults in charge might not be. Leading the group - not so much fun.

Holdout has a good head on his shoulders, but it's not always worth the trouble of dealing with his best friend sulking should he not be getting his way.

A-Plus really wants to hook up with Ace. It's hard to see what other interest she has in the club.

Kew: suffers heavily from the usual "just the tech support" syndrome. She's probably the clearest INTP Myers-Briggs typology), and thus the least likely to take the lead unless she has too.

Rez and Reach seem too conscious of being the junior, almost mascot, members of the club.

The club as a whole is too much more like a clique than a club with a charter they've ever read. There seems to have been no interest in recruiting students to fill skills and abilities gaps. That they've de facto worked their assets off to alienate almost every other group on campus hasn't helped. This is one area that the club sponsors could have provided proactive aid to the club.

One might think that being esper-heavy would help them, but there isn't an empath or telepath in the bunch. Ace's clairvoyant knack works better the fewer skills he has, relying on the work of the previous owners of his tools, or grabbing a copy from someone he's assaulting. A-Plus may not have to get grabby to pick up active skillsets, but again, that's in place of doing the work of learning what she hopes to use. My impression is that's the sort of thing that's going to get them killed some day.

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7 years 10 months ago #71 by Hardric

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null0trooper wrote: One of the problems that the Spy Kidz have is that Ace is very much invested in the idea of an antihero who fights for what's "right" regardless of rules or laws that might get in the way. That's compounded by his need to be the one in charge, and he tends to be a miserable wanker when he doesn't get his way.

Interface is there to have fun. It's high school after all! Mind you, it's even more fun to be one of the ones "in the know" when the adults in charge might not be. Leading the group - not so much fun.

Holdout has a good head on his shoulders, but it's not always worth the trouble of dealing with his best friend sulking should he not be getting his way.

A-Plus really wants to hook up with Ace. It's hard to see what other interest she has in the club.

Kew: suffers heavily from the usual "just the tech support" syndrome. She's probably the clearest INTP Myers-Briggs typology), and thus the least likely to take the lead unless she has too.

Rez and Reach seem too conscious of being the junior, almost mascot, members of the club.

The club as a whole is too much more like a clique than a club with a charter they've ever read. There seems to have been no interest in recruiting students to fill skills and abilities gaps. That they've de facto worked their assets off to alienate almost every other group on campus hasn't helped. This is one area that the club sponsors could have provided proactive aid to the club.

One might think that being esper-heavy would help them, but there isn't an empath or telepath in the bunch. Ace's clairvoyant knack works better the fewer skills he has, relying on the work of the previous owners of his tools, or grabbing a copy from someone he's assaulting. A-Plus may not have to get grabby to pick up active skillsets, but again, that's in place of doing the work of learning what she hopes to use. My impression is that's the sort of thing that's going to get them killed some day.

And they have some other problems. Holdout is pretty much dead set aganst Loophole because of Snapshot, leading to an obsession against the Lit Chix when Loophole was pretty much only a 'crime weapon', and the one person who had the nerve of throwing the murder at the Wicked Bitch of the Great North's feet, and Kew, if I remember Ayla the Mad Scientist and Diamond are a Vamp Best Friend.right, isn't above using the spying to follow Belphegor's example.

Still, I think they should switch to Holdout as a leader. The Big Idea showed he can do that really well, even managiing Ace's ego. Of course, there is the grudge against Loophole and obsession aganst the Lit Bitches (wonder what he's reading in Loophole's expulsion), but at least he can learn somethng else than Dirty Harry. Or perhhaps Reach, on the grounds of her having at least a nodding acquantance with common sense, but unfortunately I'm not sure she could do that right now.

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Reach doesn't have the charisma most of the time, and now that she's too busy getting cooed at by her girlfriend, may never have the drive to take over. The way Reach operates grates with Ace and A-Plus.

Ace is generally the big problem, especially since A-Plus unconditionally backs him up so she can be with him.

That's why Imp finally getting through to Ace is kind of a big deal. He did not appreciate getting owned that completely when he was in charge, and then his pride attacked further by telling him he might as well apply to the Syndicate, but had better learn to not suck at it because everything a former professional saw was amateur hour. Switching back to passive surveillance means Ace finally understood that they don't have a mandate to pick their targets without due diligence up front.

That's a big step for him.

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I wonder if Whateley will hand the advisor job over to The Imp.

Maybe she can keep them in hand a bit better.

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null0trooper wrote: One might think that being esper-heavy would help them, but there isn't an empath or telepath in the bunch. Ace's clairvoyant knack works better the fewer skills he has, relying on the work of the previous owners of his tools, or grabbing a copy from someone he's assaulting.

Maybe if he has learnt his lesson he will accept Sahar's offer to help him unlock a more general Esp trait.

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Katssun wrote: Reach doesn't have the charisma most of the time, and now that she's too busy getting cooed at by her girlfriend, may never have the drive to take over. The way Reach operates grates with Ace and A-Plus.

Ace is generally the big problem, especially since A-Plus unconditionally backs him up so she can be with him.

That's why Imp finally getting through to Ace is kind of a big deal. He did not appreciate getting owned that completely when he was in charge, and then his pride attacked further by telling him he might as well apply to the Syndicate, but had better learn to not suck at it because everything a former professional saw was amateur hour. Switching back to passive surveillance means Ace finally understood that they don't have a mandate to pick their targets without due diligence up front.

That's a big step for him.

That and the whole Newbie angle are the reasons I didn't have my hopes so high for Reach. And call me a cynic, but I'll wait a bit more to see if the big step will be followed by others in the right directions. I mean, once you're force-fed an humble pie, you can either learn from the failure, clean up your act and become a better person (Songbird), or you can read it in all the wrong ways and, sort of clean up your act and quitely prepare yourself for avenging your precious pride (Don Buffoono and the Wicked Bitch of the Great North). Now, I'll also admit that the fact he didn't come back to see Mr. Williams is a good sign, but with person with mountain-sized ego like Ace, I think I'll wait to see more about how he deals with the situation.

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Anybody else wonder if Geist is now working as a "double agent" spying on Barney for either the Masterminds or Imp?

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Esar wrote:
null0trooper wrote: One might think that being esper-heavy would help them, but there isn't an empath or telepath in the bunch. Ace's clairvoyant knack works better the fewer skills he has, relying on the work of the previous owners of his tools, or grabbing a copy from someone he's assaulting.

Maybe if he has learnt his lesson he will accept Sahar's offer to help him unlock a more general Esp trait.

He did. She guided him towards the end of "The Big Idea" into expanding into remote viewing. The trouble is that without the learned skills and experience using them in his own head, he has no way to effectively turn the data he recieves into useful information.

On a practical level for his skills copying: eventually, that lockpick set once owned by a master lockpicker/locksmith is going to become his instead, and lose effectively. Psychic impressions and sympathetic magcal links don't normally last forever.

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7 years 10 months ago #78 by Jarjaross

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Anyone else feel like Reach was uncharacteristically involved in this case? If only for the last part.

They have shown some reluctance in the past when it comes to unprovoked observations of people. As we saw earlier in this story and when they were spying Jadis.

Did he get brought around to being fully on board in some scene that I missed?

Or have I misunderstood the character somewhere?

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Overall, Reach is the voice of reason in this story arc, and very consistent with past appearances.

Part 1:
- Reach points out that she might actually be here to teach (the truth) and notes that that's far from unusual (Lillian Dennon, anyone?), but is dismissed by A-Plus and Ace. This is consistent with past Spy Kids stories, where Ace is pretty resentful that Reach is competent, rationale, and gets results.

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Reach is the one that points out they're being played, and had been sidelined by Ace in the investigation part of things by constantly being put on tailing duty. Again, this plays into Ace's resentment of Reach. Even Holdout gets annoyed with Reach, but that is pointed out, possibly as jealously, over Reach's involvement with Spark.

Part 3:
By part 3, Reach is exasperated with Ace, A-Plus, and the others. They clearly aren't picking up on the clues that Imp isn't up to anything, but still follows instructions to follow her more, and reports back that Superhawk is visiting Mischief, and clearly knows Imp. Any questions Reach asks Imp in the confrontation scene are objective, and confirming the observations that Reach already made, but were ignored by the others.

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Thanks, he still feels overly involved in the last part but maybe thats everyone else blocking out his complaining.

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I'd say Reach feels that these are most of his/her "friends" on campus, and some of them may be his/her genuine friends. Was it clear whether reach was male or female for most of this?

The Cadets also offer a valuable opportunity for Reach anways. Reach still gets lessons and experience from hanging out with the Spy Kids, and Reach herself doesn't seem to have actually done anything illegal directly. She didn't break in anywhere (though she did follow in) and she stopped outsider the teacher's village. Obviously, tailing someone isn't actually against the rules/laws. It's probable that even if Imp had pushed for explusion, Reach might have been comparatively in the clear. I think Reach is slowly moving towards "I just don't care" and if the others don't clean up their act...

Plus there was that "hired by Phase" bit. Maybe sticking with the Spy Kids is part of something else Reach is working on for someone? We also generally only ever see the Spy Kids when something goes wrong, but there's nothing to say they don't also get some stuff right or do some good now and again that we don't see. They don't really have a focus author outside Bek's "The Big Idea" and are just used as needed by the other authors.

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Reach could get hit with harrassment/stalking charges. But as she wasn't the biggest one and tried to be the voice of reason, if things had escalated, she'd be the one to get off with some detention in non-toilet duty Hawthorne or cleaning the public toilets, whereas pretty much everyone else would be in the sewers or in school suspension.

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Still, I'm very excited both for possible Reach learning from Imp stories, and possible dates between Imp and Ryan. Imagine once she finally has the confidence to tell him she's also Candace Kade... or why Williams hates or so much... or why she hates HIM so much. I imagine that last one could set Super Hawk after the man something FIERCE.

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If you told me that Reach figured out that Imp's "escape with a painting in broad daylight" tactic was a trick and reported it anyways in order to get the whole stupid thing over with, I'd totally believe it.

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Iwasforger03 wrote: I'd say Reach feels that these are most of his/her "friends" on campus, and some of them may be his/her genuine friends. Was it clear whether reach was male or female for most of this?

Was he stumbling over his own feet, or was she acting as if she could succeed at what she set her mind to?

Iwasforger03 wrote: We also generally only ever see the Spy Kids when something goes wrong, but there's nothing to say they don't also get some stuff right or do some good now and again that we don't see. They don't really have a focus author outside Bek's "The Big Idea" and are just used as needed by the other authors.

It's hinted that even their one success in the past three years (other than catching the mastermind in "The Big Idea") was the result of Freya having Sahar tipped off. That was from Freya's less-than-reliable POV, but without Reach and Rez, and Sahar still learning her craft, it's plausible.

From Nephandus' POV, they are reasonably competent at the mechanical skills of their trade. However, they've got the same Good Guys/Bad Guys prejudice that many of the Cape wannabes (and Capes) suffer from. They are teenagers after all.

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7 years 10 months ago #86 by Valentine

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They also successfully captured Crunch, Legbreaker and Strongarm after they attempted to beat up Aquerna in Straight from the Squirrel's Mouth. Of course there was no investigation there.

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I can't imagine the Cadets are as incompetent as their on screen appearances indicate, because they somehow weaseled their way out of being disbanded over the She-Beast incident just before spring break.

Also, the implication I got from later appearances of Reach was that while she is generally most competent as a female, he IS capable of doing it right as a male, it's just much harder and often causes him to switch to her. She spends most of her time as a woman, but does sometimes become male, and theoretically could even learn to control the switch.

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7 years 10 months ago #88 by joreymay

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Iwasforger03 wrote: Reach herself doesn't seem to have actually done anything illegal directly. She didn't break in anywhere (though she did follow in) and she stopped outsider the teacher's village.

"Breaking and entering" is not limited to the person doing the "breaking". Irrespective of individual roles, it was a group action and incurs group liability. There are also potential charges of tresspassing, criminal conspiracy and accessory. Not quite as severe as the charges some of the others faced, but serious enough.

7 years 10 months ago #89 by Domoviye

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Fair enough. But as long as it doesn't go to the police, Carson will probably punish them on what they did individually.

7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #90 by Esar

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null0trooper wrote: Was he stumbling over his own feet, or was she acting as if she could succeed at what she set her mind to?

I think this "limitation" has been lifted near the end of TBI, specifically when he told his father to go F himself and when he stopped trying to judge himself by his father's standards. The problem was mostly his low self esteem.

something strange is that the cadets seem to have forgotten their own lesson between TBI and this story. I mean at the beginning of TBI when they tested reach, they "mocked" him for acting as if he was trying to be a thief rather than a cop. The whole "we only asked you to bring us what was in that room, you choose to steal it but you could have just asked for it" bit).

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7 years 10 months ago #91 by Iwasforger03

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I think that's because Ace was always intended to have an inflated "know it all" ego bit. He's a great detective when he remembers to channel the skills of a great detective, but otherwise...

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