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Question A Little R & R 2: Alyss in Wondercute Land

7 years 10 months ago #1 by Dreamer
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    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #2 by Angeldude
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  • Roulette looses all essence when shifting? Interesting. Baselines and non wizard mutants can hold essence just fine, but when Amy shifts she looses all of it.

    I wonder if there is a way to maintain essence beyond the normal exercises. That said, it would be difficult to train something that only happens while asleep, though if she could stay conscious enough during micro-burnouts, she might be able to get a feel for it then.

    More likely, she'll get some sort of essence battery, or reliquary, like what she suggests in the story. Funnily enough, I was hoping that she'd make one for a while now as a devise of some sort. I would like to see her try to integrate her magic with devising in some way. The wiki page for Devisors mentions that Nephandus hasn't been able to integrate the 2 to his satisfaction.

    Another possibility is to potentially use her energizer mode to generate essence when not a wizard. Nikki (I know, it's bad to compare with her when it comes to magic, but bare with me) can absorb lightning and can draw power from live wires to use as essence, so we know that it is possible to convert between electrical energy and essence. Would it be possible for Roulette to use some spell that doesn't cost essence, but instead converts stored electrical energy into essence?

    A bigger problem, is that, as discussed on the Baseline Mages thread, a magic user must have their well lit in order to cast spells and if they use too much essence, it burns out and needs to be relit. If Roulette looses all her essence when shifting, wouldn't that mean that she would need to relight her well every day she wants to use magic? It might be that it automatically relights when in wizard mode, but that still hinders her in other modes.

    Amy's powerset is just so darn fascinating. I can see why the power testing staff are willing to pay her just to spend more time with her.

    In other news: sorry Ribbon, but these kids aren't the only ones spreading rumors about your relation with Lady Havok. ;)

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    7 years 10 months ago #3 by mhalpern
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  • Options for dealing with Starbitch- embroider her clothes with various messages, get a lock that zaps anyone who tries to access her (Ribbon's) locker, it would barely tickle an ex 6.. Sims... but most likely to be effective give in and join Wondercute.

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  • It also exactly what the Bad Seeds and the Book are for. I doubt she'll have to go as far as Jobe did, but it's probably better than relying on Wondercute. Her reputation won't get better from that.

    Dangling Starbrite off a building until she cries like a baby might do it though. Wouldn't violate Alyss' principle of not hurting kids either. Just some tough surrogate parenting!

    I really hope for Sapphire's sake that no one tries to destroy her cloak.:cry:
    7 years 10 months ago #5 by konzill
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  • Does Amy know that Catalin knows the secret of Poe Cottage? Her saying “My mom has some odd ideas about mother son bonding time.” would expose the secret otherwise. I though the spells Mrs Horton puts on everybody was supposed to prevent that kind of sli[pup. Unless spells placed on Amy break whenever she changes powersets.

    To be Honest I can't actually remember weather Catalin actually knows the Secret of Poe or not. seeing as most of the TG Outcasts are not actually in Poe.
    7 years 10 months ago #6 by null0trooper
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  • Angeldude wrote: Roulette looses all essence when shifting? Interesting. Baselines and non wizard mutants can hold essence just fine, but when Amy shifts she looses all of it.


    No, they don't hold essence just fine until they've put in years, even decades of training. Roulette's not a baseline wizard, so she hasn't had the training and doesn't have the control (and may not for many years) to hold onto her essence whether she's awake or asleep and dreaming.



    Angeldude wrote: Another possibility is to potentially use her energizer mode to generate essence when not a wizard. Nikki (I know, it's bad to compare with her when it comes to magic, but bare with me) can absorb lightning and can draw power from live wires to use as essence, so we know that it is possible to convert between electrical energy and essence.


    Natural lightning contains essence, bolts hurled by maybe-gods or mages likely do as well, so of course Nikki could obtain some from a lightning bolt IF she's ready for it. That doesn't mean she converted the electromagnetic portion of the bolt, even in part.

    Has raw conversion of alternating-current electricity to essence has actually been performed by any character that is NOT a Sidhe Mage? IF not, we really do not know that a human magician can manage the conversion.


    Angeldude wrote: Would it be possible for Roulette to use some spell that doesn't cost essence, but instead converts stored electrical energy into essence?


    Spells in the Western sense that you are thinking of require essence from somewhere for the spell to even exist. No essence: no spell.

    Keep in mind that Essence is the stuff from which energy, mass, reality, etc. manifest, or are made. These things don't naturally revert to being Essence.

    Theoretically, Roulette could make a deal with a third party to front her the essence for unmaking electricity to essence. Such deals rarely end well. Or, she could extract essence from a number of exterior sources. That can also lead to ruin.



    Angeldude wrote: A bigger problem, is that, as discussed on the Baseline Mages thread, a magic user must have their well lit in order to cast spells and if they use too much essence, it burns out and needs to be relit.


    The TLW could cast spells without their wells lit. They just weren't casting very powerful spells. A lit well naturally draws essence to it and helps hold it, mutant trait or not, but there has to be enough essence held in the well to light it and keep it lit.

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    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #7 by Iwasforger03
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  • I think she might have a clue given Noms and Nikki and having been a former teacher? but if she doesn't she might suspect. I'm glad Sapphire didn't reject Amy, though for a second I thought she was going to be related to Diamondback.

    Ribbon - I'd like to lay odds that Ribbon joins Wondercute and Wondercute gets Starbright off her back. Afterall... nobody wants Jade angry at them. Her ideas of revenge are not for the faint of heart, their downright brainbreaking.

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  • konzill wrote: Does Amy know that Catalin knows the secret of Poe Cottage? Her saying “My mom has some odd ideas about mother son bonding time.” would expose the secret otherwise. I though the spells Mrs Horton puts on everybody was supposed to prevent that kind of sli[pup. Unless spells placed on Amy break whenever she changes powersets.


    I think it may be limited to prevent revealing The Secret to someone who doesn't already know what's going on.


    konzill wrote: To be Honest I can't actually remember weather Catalin actually knows the Secret of Poe or not. seeing as most of the TG Outcasts are not actually in Poe.


    Mahren's already confronted Carson over the school segregating the LBGT kids into Poe.

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  • We also learned one important thing GEO is still around and has not been shut down, I guess the DARPA's investigation is still under the radar.

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  • Dpragan wrote: We also learned one important thing GEO is still around and has not been shut down, I guess the DARPA's investigation is still under the radar.


    Or completed and the game was cleaned up.
    7 years 10 months ago #11 by Valentine
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    Dpragan wrote: We also learned one important thing GEO is still around and has not been shut down, I guess the DARPA's investigation is still under the radar.


    Or completed and the game was cleaned up.


    Investigating and shutting down a world wide game in 7 months? It'll take longer than that.

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  • I hope we see a crash sim for all the Cape Squad wannabees like Aegis and Christina against Sphere, Knockoff, Envy, and Jessie. Throw in Ribbon too.

    People who have actually been directly involved in deadly combat situations before or abused by those who claim to be heroes or on the good side.
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    Dpragan wrote: We also learned one important thing GEO is still around and has not been shut down, I guess the DARPA's investigation is still under the radar.


    Or completed and the game was cleaned up.

    Not completed. and not so under the radar.

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    null0trooper wrote: I think it may be limited to prevent revealing The Secret to someone who doesn't already know what's going on.


    It's about not revealing the Cottage's secret, but it does not prevent someone from outing themselves. (But yes Eric Mahren knew about Poe, he was not told about it but he realized it.)

    Danny and Frank/Esoteric are bonding, yeah !

    Reverse GSD is a very interesting concept.

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  • Katssun wrote: It also exactly what the Bad Seeds and the Book are for. I doubt she'll have to go as far as Jobe did, but it's probably better than relying on Wondercute. Her reputation won't get better from that.

    Dangling Starbrite off a building until she cries like a baby might do it though. Wouldn't violate Alyss' principle of not hurting kids either. Just some tough surrogate parenting!

    I really hope for Sapphire's sake that no one tries to destroy her cloak.:cry:

    The Bad Seeds would confirmation bias her relationship with Lady Havok, Wondercute, wont hurt her reputation too much, her behavior is their forte.

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  • I wanna see Dark Ribbon vs. OC, TK, the Capes, Team Phoenix, and all the other heavy hitters. Not at the same time. Well maybe at the same time.

    Ribbon isn't thinking creatively enough in dealing with Starbright. Forming this as a single piece with no seams or breaks as she comes out of the showers from BMA might have an effect.


    or maybe


    I'm sure someone will point it out to her.

    I wonder if Roulette could get Kayda's tea recipe for her Magic classes? IIRC it would give her a little bit of Essence.

    I wonder what sort of reaction Sapphire will have to Diamondback. She could end up needing some serious help. On the other hand Diamond's reaction to finding out about Sapphire and her family would be interesting.

    Roulette is now going to have to suffer through hours of listening to Ayla talk about Free Range Chicken, and Free Range Rice, and Domesticated Asparagus and all things ingredients. She may give up cooking.

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  • Esar wrote: I love the smell of a new Morpheus's Story in the morning.

    null0trooper wrote: I think it may be limited to prevent revealing The Secret to someone who doesn't already know what's going on.


    It's about not revealing the Cottage's secret, but it does not prevent someone from outing themselves. (But yes Eric Mahren knew about Poe, he was not told about it but he realized it.)

    Danny and Frank/Esoteric are bonding, yeah !

    Reverse GSD is a very interesting concept.

    Thanks Morpheus.


    My first thought was that Danny and Feral were bonding, not Esoteric.

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  • Valentine wrote: I wonder if Roulette could get Kayda's tea recipe for her Magic classes? IIRC it would give her a little bit of Essence.


    She would need essence to make the tea and unfortunately If I recall correctly the effects dissipate after a while so she wouldn't be able to prepare it for latter.

    On the other hand Kayda has prepared it during one of Grimes's class so Grimes should be able to prepare it (she seemed to be interested in it)?
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  • I just realized, isn't there a rule against using biohazardous material in a prank? if there is, Starbitch violated it, BIG time, unidentified fecal matter is a biohazard after all.

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  • Now I'm wondering where they found the nappies. Does the school store sell them?? ... The school is preped for teen preg, even if it doesn't happen very often??
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  • Come on Amy, you're at the best magic school in the Country, if not the world and you have a question about magic. Here's an Idea, ask your teacher.

    Yes the scene is extra exasperating considering she is sitting next to the most powerful crafter of magical devices in the world, but she has no way of knowing it. But deciding that Witchling will be the best person to ask is just silly.
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  • Now that I think about it there is actually an even bigger reveal in this story. And that is that mutants altered by their mutation can pass on their specific changes to their children. The human race is on the verge of splitting into multiple species.
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  • Malady wrote: Now I'm wondering where they found the nappies. Does the school store sell them?? ... The school is preped for teen preg, even if it doesn't happen very often??


    There are teachers in residence, presumably some are married. They could have kids. Heckel or Jeckel is married and has at least one child, (I wonder if his family is/has moved to Dunwich or onto Campus). So I would guess the store sells them, or she ordered them from Goodkindazon.com.

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  • The real problem is that starbrat is choosing Alyss to use to compensate for her insecurities, who wants to bet that she was the punching bag until she caught the MGC bug and manifested? She is clearly inexperienced in these antics, otherwise she would be more subtle and poignant

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    Didn't have time to mention this before but look at her codename "Starbright" that isn't something that a self confident teenager would choose, that's something that a timid teenager's coddling mother would choose, after all isn't it part of a lullaby?

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  • mhalpern wrote: I just realized, isn't there a rule against using biohazardous material in a prank? if there is, Starbitch violated it, BIG time, unidentified fecal matter is a biohazard after all.


    I think there was a rule prohibiting biohazardous materials in a fireworks competition - but that may have been only in the Micro-Scenes.

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    mhalpern wrote: I just realized, isn't there a rule against using biohazardous material in a prank? if there is, Starbitch violated it, BIG time, unidentified fecal matter is a biohazard after all.


    I think there was a rule prohibiting biohazardous materials in a fireworks competition - but that may have been only in the Micro-Scenes.


    I am pretty sure it violates a health and safety law pertaining to the storage and disposal of biohazardous material,

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  • I wonder what sort of reaction Sapphire will have to Diamondback. She could end up needing some serious help

    We already see a minor reaction in " A little R&R prt 2."

    When we reached Hawthorne, I saw Caitlin standing out front, talking to a snake girl. From the waist up, she looked pretty human, but from the waist down, she had an enormous snake tail.

    Suddenly, Sapphire stopped. “What?” I asked, noticing that she was just standing there and staring straight at the snake girl. “Are you okay?”

    Instead of answering me, Sapphire pulled her cloak tighter and began to scowl. Then it dawned on me. Sapphire was either afraid of snakes, or just of someone with such severe GSD.

    A few seconds later, the snake girl slithered away while Caitlin turned and went back into the cottage. Sapphire lowered her head, pulling the hood up and over it so that I couldn’t see her face very clearly. Then, she continued walking into Hawthorne, not saying a word as she went to her room and vanished inside.


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  • I wonder if Star(not so)bright will try any of her antics on Team Awesome? Because at that point Alyss' retaliation gloves will come off.

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  • I'm still thinking we're gonna see Starbright on the receiving end of Wondercute

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  • Was re-reading Ayla 5 and just realized, it was the TRUE birth of Wondercute! (before they names themselves)

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  • While as a teacher, Erik picked up on the not-so-subtle looks from the Poe boys and guessed from there, and knows at least the gist of Poe's secret. However, I don't think there's reason for Eldritch to do anything but vastly underestimate the number of changelings in Poe, even if they're aware that the honest ones tend to get placed there. Same with Diamondback, although she's becoming increasingly aware of the truth. They just feel they're more alone in this regard than they actually are.

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  • I wonder what will happen when Alyssa gets pissed or these bullies hurt one of her friends, especially one of the little kids in Team awesome.
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  • And Team Awesome already futurely has their own theme song.



    Will they sue Lego? Or does Phase own that too.

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  • Hmm this will take time and a great deal of training on Alyss's part, but once she learns how to accurately control her strength, she will be hell in BMA its hard to do in a fight, but the mental package should help, from a certain perspective, she needs the skill anyway, and it being trained to fighting reflex is a good way to make sure that she wont break anything every time something makes her jump, with most people in martial arts 3 or 4 force ranges is all they can manage but that's usually all thats needed, minimal contact for training forms, light contact for sparing, medium contact for competitive sparing and most self defense, heavy contact for breaking stuff and serious self defense, Alyss needs a heck of a lot more variety in that, because of her strength. It will be interesting to see how she goes about training that, maybe a variable strength training force field? She also needs it if she ever wants to practice with her bracelets or wants to use them better/ more creatively.

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  • That's another good reason for her to get dragged, kicking and cursing, into Wondercute. She wouldn't "belong" in Team Kimba, but she could be inspired by hearing about some of the pranks and stunts they learned to do. For example, Phase spent hours and hours figuring out how to snatch someone's panties. Yes, it was juvenile, but it taught him control of his power in a way that adult instructors might not have thought of or realized as motivating.

    Even with her manifested ribbons, Alyss is scary. Instant garrote, as needed. You can cut a finger on the edges of some commercial trim, so there's an improvised blade, or wire saw. Throw in Exemplar 6 strength - yikes!

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  • null0trooper wrote: That's another good reason for her to get dragged, kicking and cursing, into Wondercute. She wouldn't "belong" in Team Kimba, but she could be inspired by hearing about some of the pranks and stunts they learned to do. For example, Phase spent hours and hours figuring out how to snatch someone's panties. Yes, it was juvenile, but it taught him control of his power in a way that adult instructors might not have thought of or realized as motivating.

    Even with her manifested ribbons, Alyss is scary. Instant garrote, as needed. You can cut a finger on the edges of some commercial trim, so there's an improvised blade, or wire saw. Throw in Exemplar 6 strength - yikes!

    Or using the bracelets to make a sheave and the ribbons as rope for the pulley she could pull the shorter "heavy" side and move the other end many times farther than the distance she pulls, very tactically useful in a variety of situations, hoisting herself or other people for one

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  • I mean if Alyss loops her manifested material through her bracelets say 20 times, and stretches the ring across 1 ft, almost anything is going to be pulled 20ft, at 1/20th the force required to lift a Buick

    Most people weigh less than a 20th of a car, the ribbons may have to be reinforced braided or twisted together to handle the force, most likely resembling rope but they could also be layered as a ribbon cable but regardless of how, she has shown enough control of how she manifests stuff that it should be easy enough for her.

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  • Steel Ribbon wrote: "The default manifested material simulates the appearance and texture of silk, but it demonstrates thrice the tensile strength... "


    Typical commercial silkworm silk from Bombyx mori cocoons has a tensile strength of about 0.5 gigapascals (GPa), a breaking elongation of 15%. Spider silks are much stronger.

    SANICRO 36MO ARMOR WIRE FOR LOGGING CABLES is about 15% stronger. Much stronger than most steels, and about 40% as strong as Kevlar.

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  • null0trooper wrote: You can cut a finger on the edges of some commercial trim, so there's an improvised blade, or wire saw.


    I noticed at the end of her origin story that she had a few too many similarities to Nui Harime. (minus the sociopathy) I was wondering if her TK would be able to keep her fabric stiff enough to use as a blade. If so: instant replica scissor blade. (It's technically made of a form of fabric in the show.)

    Too bad Kill la Kill won't come out for a few years in-universe.

    Similarities with Nui Harime:
    • Strength
    • Fast regen
    • Looks far less deadly than she really is
    • Carries a parasol
    • Wears Lollita dresses
    • Fabric based superpower

    Other than that, she seems to have Deadpool (movie)'s origin story. Curse you, cancer!

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  • Valentine wrote:

    Steel Ribbon wrote: "The default manifested material simulates the appearance and texture of silk, but it demonstrates thrice the tensile strength... "


    Typical commercial silkworm silk from Bombyx mori cocoons has a tensile strength of about 0.5 gigapascals (GPa), a breaking elongation of 15%. Spider silks are much stronger.

    SANICRO 36MO ARMOR WIRE FOR LOGGING CABLES is about 15% stronger. Much stronger than most steels, and about 40% as strong as Kevlar.

    So the 1.5 GPa manifested material is way more than strong enough for logging.. damn its scary what can be done with that and a strong enough pulling force

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  • mhalpern wrote: I mean if Alyss loops her manifested material through her bracelets say 20 times, and stretches the ring across 1 ft, almost anything is going to be pulled 20ft, at 1/20th the force required to lift a Buick

    Most people weigh less than a 20th of a car, the ribbons may have to be reinforced braided or twisted together to handle the force, most likely resembling rope but they could also be layered as a ribbon cable but regardless of how, she has shown enough control of how she manifests stuff that it should be easy enough for her.

    Friction would be a problem unless she has a real block and tackle.

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    mhalpern wrote: I mean if Alyss loops her manifested material through her bracelets say 20 times, and stretches the ring across 1 ft, almost anything is going to be pulled 20ft, at 1/20th the force required to lift a Buick

    Most people weigh less than a 20th of a car, the ribbons may have to be reinforced braided or twisted together to handle the force, most likely resembling rope but they could also be layered as a ribbon cable but regardless of how, she has shown enough control of how she manifests stuff that it should be easy enough for her.

    Friction would be a problem unless she has a real block and tackle.

    Somehow I don't think she will have a problem working a space for one into her outfit if needs be...

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  • A couple comments on various previous messages:

    1. Fey IS able to get power from electricity -- she did exactly that in "The Turks and the Geek."

    2. Ayla is not obsessive about organic farming; he IS obsessive about first-rate ingredients. For instance, he is supportive of devisor geese not because he's squeamish about force-fed geese, but because he realizes that otherwise foie gras will disappear from the market. And that is unacceptable to him.

    However, I wouldn't be surprised if Ayla put in a good word for Roulette to begin interning with the Whateley chefs. I mean, Mezzo is a junior now, she's likely to become busier... and in a couple more years she will be gone. Time to begin grooming a replacement...

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  • Just a reminder, Ribbon doesn't know her bracelets are ebidium, or that ebidium is dead to magic and stabilizes against warper effects.

    She and Rachel just know they're really heavy and dense, but not useful for much outside their weight.

    Should be entertaining for whoever is at the other end of a thrown bracelet attached to a ribbon at Whateley.
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  • Remember that her Ribbons can be smooth as silk, as opposed to the steel cables. Friction is less of a problem than you think.

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  • konzill wrote: Now that I think about it there is actually an even bigger reveal in this story. And that is that mutants altered by their mutation can pass on their specific changes to their children. The human race is on the verge of splitting into multiple species.


    I noted that, but what popped into my head was maybe all the old 'fantasy' creatures are coming back. We know this is happening with the Sidhe. But according to all we know the fey consisted of a lot of very different creatures.
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  • Valentine wrote: I wonder if Star(not so)bright will try any of her antics on Team Awesome? Because at that point Alyss' retaliation gloves will come off.


    I know that the whole bully thing is very big in a lot of these stories. But I have to think that pre-teens, especially cute little girls would be a lot less likely to attract that sort of attention. Only the most brain dead would think it socially acceptable, and a lot of bullies are not actually evil and would either ignore and avoid them, or actually feel protective.

    Might be funny to see a notorious bully reduced to jello by them, or downright protective if he perceived them as being threatened.
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  • konzill wrote: Now that I think about it there is actually an even bigger reveal in this story. And that is that mutants altered by their mutation can pass on their specific changes to their children. The human race is on the verge of splitting into multiple species.


    Not really. There is precedent. Phoenixfire has pretty much identical powers to her mother, Magma, for instance. Gizmatic is a devisor, and so is Jobe -- only with a different focus, which is probably more a matter of personal preferences rather than the particulars of the mutation. And, of course, there's the Harrow family, who are known to breed true for PDP...

    So... it happens. Not all the time, but it does happen.

    Also, it's interesting to notice that while Sapphire had inherited her mother's GSD, she still carried the human genes, which became reactivated upon her own mutation. Appearances aside, pre-manifestation Sapphire was human, not a primate-snake hybrid. Also, her mother is still human enough to breed with other humans/mutants.

    The fact that even extreme GSD cases can interbreed with other human/mutants and their offspring can "manifest" back to human appearance leads me to a conclusion different from "humans splitting into several different species." It could happen, of course -- but you would have to take a population of GSD cases with related changes and isolate them from the main population for several generations.
    No, what I think this points to is to a human/mutant species with way more variability than we are used to in humans. Consider dogs, for instance -- they have much more genetic variability than humans. Mutants go further still, but still remain genetically human at the core.

    Well, if you exclude special cases such as human/GOO hybrids, Sidhe-type mutants, possibly genetic constructs like the Drow and Isokist constructs such as Tennyo. Even so, if they can still interbreed with humans (and GOOs can, Drow probably can, Sidhe might be able to with some help, and Tennyo... who knows?)... how non-human are they, really?

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  • In one of the stories it's explained that Fubar is more human on the genetic level than a high level regen like Jade or Peril.

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  • You know I have to wonder, is Carson going to use the favor she got from Rachael as pretext to get her in ARC? I mean the only other Diedricks case they've had (while likely greater extreme) that was at the severe end of the spectrum is Maelstrom and they had to keep him frozen, and not useful for research, Lady Havok on the other hand would be rather cooperative

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  • Valentine wrote: In one of the stories it's explained that Fubar is more human on the genetic level than a high level regen like Jade or Peril.

    That would be Christmas Elves! (They were explaining why being stabbed through the heart was only a momentary inconvenience for our favorite Vampire Princess) I quoted it a few days ago when talking about Tennyo.

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  • Sir Lee wrote:

    konzill wrote: Now that I think about it there is actually an even bigger reveal in this story. And that is that mutants altered by their mutation can pass on their specific changes to their children. The human race is on the verge of splitting into multiple species.


    Not really. There is precedent. Phoenixfire has pretty much identical powers to her mother, Magma, for instance. Gizmatic is a devisor, and so is Jobe -- only with a different focus, which is probably more a matter of personal preferences rather than the particulars of the mutation. And, of course, there's the Harrow family, who are known to breed true for PDP...

    So... it happens. Not all the time, but it does happen.
    [snip]

    Scales in particular are a very interesting genetic case! Scales and hair have largely the same genetic analogs, with hairs being distinct single follicles, feathers somewhere in between, and scales being flattened versions of the same structure.

    The serpentine legs on the other hand...little bit more complicated.
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  • annachie wrote: And the whole "hatched from an egg" thing is normal?

    Well there is a pretty straight forward mammalian analog, the tricky part is in order to be compatible with most people the egg has to come out fertilized, but I do believe that there are animals that do that. But it doesn't matter, life finds a way....

    Her prior schooling would have been interesting.

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  • I just realized something, Wondercute will protect Danny from Bullies and Ribbon will protect him from Wondercute... Everyone is happy except for enemies of cute...

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  • mhalpern wrote: I just realized something, Wondercute will protect Danny from Bullies and Ribbon will protect him from Wondercute... Everyone is happy except for enemies of cute...


    And if they add the hawthorne kids... Let the terror reign.

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  • mhalpern wrote:

    annachie wrote: And the whole "hatched from an egg" thing is normal?

    Well there is a pretty straight forward mammalian analog, the tricky part is in order to be compatible with most people the egg has to come out fertilized, but I do believe that there are animals that do that. But it doesn't matter, life finds a way....


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  • annachie wrote:

    mhalpern wrote:

    annachie wrote: And the whole "hatched from an egg" thing is normal?

    Well there is a pretty straight forward mammalian analog, the tricky part is in order to be compatible with most people the egg has to come out fertilized, but I do believe that there are animals that do that. But it doesn't matter, life finds a way....


    Echidna and platypus, both of which are found around here.

    So Knuckles was hatched.... did not know that...

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  • Katssun wrote: Just a reminder, Ribbon doesn't know her bracelets are ebidium, or that ebidium is dead to magic and stabilizes against warper effects.

    She and Rachel just know they're really heavy and dense, but not useful for much outside their weight.

    Should be entertaining for whoever is at the other end of a thrown bracelet attached to a ribbon at Whateley.

    True but for most uses she doesn't need to know that, until she inevitably finds out in BMA, they are smooth, strong and can be used in a variety of ways because her ribbons are also smooth and strong we know that if it wasn't so dense it would be great for armor, and Alyss knows this as well. Mechanically they are in a very useful shape too.

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  • annachie wrote: And the whole "hatched from an egg" thing is normal?


    There are biological differences between eggs and live births... Whatever they are...

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  • Malady wrote:

    annachie wrote: And the whole "hatched from an egg" thing is normal?


    There are biological differences between eggs and live births... Eggs mean that all the nutrients for the growth are gathered all at once, and stored in the egg... Unless there's some Energizer Hatchling that uses Energism to get energy...

    Anyway, live births have their nutrients being able to be given more slowly, over the pregnancy length...

    Also hatchlings grow differently than live births... IIRC, hatchlings can operate by themselves, while live births need mothers?


    'Needing mothers' is nothing to do with eggs or live births, it's to do with being a mammal. We are called 'mammals' because of the mammory gland which produces milk. There are mammals that lay eggs, there are mammals that grow their young in pouches, and there are mammals that keep them inside and use a placenta to feed them. All of them are mammals because the mother feeds the young using milk.
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  • Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

    Malady wrote:

    annachie wrote: And the whole "hatched from an egg" thing is normal?


    There are biological differences between eggs and live births... Eggs mean that all the nutrients for the growth are gathered all at once, and stored in the egg... Unless there's some Energizer Hatchling that uses Energism to get energy...

    Anyway, live births have their nutrients being able to be given more slowly, over the pregnancy length...

    Also hatchlings grow differently than live births... IIRC, hatchlings can operate by themselves, while live births need mothers?


    'Needing mothers' is nothing to do with eggs or live births, it's to do with being a mammal. We are called 'mammals' because of the mammory gland which produces milk. There are mammals that lay eggs, there are mammals that grow their young in pouches, and there are mammals that keep them inside and use a placenta to feed them. All of them are mammals because the mother feeds the young using milk.


    Heh... leave it to the guy in Australia to point out Mammals have Marsupials and Monotremes in addition to the traditional method of live birth and external care.
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  • It's also possible that she was born/hatched within a very short time. The egg merely providing a protective case for the birth. So she may not have been laid and incubated for 9 months then hatched.

    Also, there are non-mammals that give birth live, such as some sharks and rays. As for hatchlings not needing mothers? Some do, some don't. Baby birds sure need their parents, sea turtles not so much.

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  • mhalpern wrote:

    Katssun wrote: Just a reminder, Ribbon doesn't know her bracelets are ebidium, or that ebidium is dead to magic and stabilizes against warper effects.

    She and Rachel just know they're really heavy and dense, but not useful for much outside their weight.

    Should be entertaining for whoever is at the other end of a thrown bracelet attached to a ribbon at Whateley.

    True but for most uses she doesn't need to know that, until she inevitably finds out in BMA, they are smooth, strong and can be used in a variety of ways because her ribbons are also smooth and strong we know that if it wasn't so dense it would be great for armor, and Alyss knows this as well. Mechanically they are in a very useful shape too.

    But if her bracelets are on her wrists, she can stop/hit/catch Mischief or Phase. It's not so much the magic deadened space that intrigues me, it is the warper stabilization.
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  • In terms of some "harmless" revenge, Alyss is old enough to be aware of the (declassified) OSS weapon (tested, but not deployed) which was a small squirt bottle of a liquid which produces the smell of brown pants. A squirt of that on the back of SB's skirt would give her a day she would not soon forget and a rumored rep she would not quickly live down.
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  • joreymay wrote: In terms of some "harmless" revenge, Alyss is old enough to be aware of the (declassified) OSS weapon (tested, but not deployed) which was a small squirt bottle of a liquid which produces the smell of brown pants. A squirt of that on the back of SB's skirt would give her a day she would not soon forget and a rumored rep she would not quickly live down.
    :evil:

    trick is acquiring it... though a squirt of Tetrahydrothiophene may do nicely as well or another common oderizer, it isn't a brown smell, but strong enough sulfur smell will make people loose a meal.

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  • mhalpern wrote:

    joreymay wrote: In terms of some "harmless" revenge, Alyss is old enough to be aware of the (declassified) OSS weapon (tested, but not deployed) which was a small squirt bottle of a liquid which produces the smell of brown pants. A squirt of that on the back of SB's skirt would give her a day she would not soon forget and a rumored rep she would not quickly live down.
    :evil:

    trick is acquiring it... though a squirt of Tetrahydrothiophene may do nicely as well or another common oderizer, it isn't a brown smell, but strong enough sulfur smell will make people loose a meal.


    I wonder if Ribbon has met Nate yet. Seems to me he's been weaponizing certain emanations.

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  • joreymay wrote: In terms of some "harmless" revenge, Alyss is old enough to be aware of the (declassified) OSS weapon (tested, but not deployed) which was a small squirt bottle of a liquid which produces the smell of brown pants. A squirt of that on the back of SB's skirt would give her a day she would not soon forget and a rumored rep she would not quickly live down.


    skatole shouldn't be hard to obtain. I don't know the chemical name, but IIRC there's a trademarked "scent" that is said to be reminiscent of a different reputation-wrecking stain.

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  • I think Chaka needs to teach Alyss about pressure points. Alyss grabs her...hits the points to paralyze her. Then carry her around campus like she's an over grown baby complete with paci and bottle.

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  • Valentine wrote: It's also possible that she was born/hatched within a very short time. The egg merely providing a protective case for the birth. So she may not have been laid and incubated for 9 months then hatched.

    Also, there are non-mammals that give birth live, such as some sharks and rays. As for hatchlings not needing mothers? Some do, some don't. Baby birds sure need their parents, sea turtles not so much.


    Something tells me her mother is a Monotreme, you know, the breasts and all.

    She might have hatched from an egg, but she also got feed milk from her mother. Still a mammal, just now a monotreme (egg laying mammal) rather then a placental (carries young to maturity in womb).
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  • mhalpern wrote:

    joreymay wrote: In terms of some "harmless" revenge, Alyss is old enough to be aware of the (declassified) OSS weapon (tested, but not deployed) which was a small squirt bottle of a liquid which produces the smell of brown pants. A squirt of that on the back of SB's skirt would give her a day she would not soon forget and a rumored rep she would not quickly live down.
    :evil:

    trick is acquiring it... though a squirt of Tetrahydrothiophene may do nicely as well or another common oderizer, it isn't a brown smell, but strong enough sulfur smell will make people loose a meal.


    The idea is to have the scent specific enough to turn around the diaper rumor on its author, rather than to raise a generic stink.There should be enough people known to the fixers (and those striving to be the next fixers) with access to skills and materials to make the plan possible.
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  • mhalpern wrote: trick is acquiring it... though a squirt of Tetrahydrothiophene may do nicely as well or another common oderizer, it isn't a brown smell, but strong enough sulfur smell will make people loose a meal.

    At Whateley? Finding someone able to synthesize some prank-worthy chemical to get back at a bully? Any one of Hazmat's lab gang would be capable to do it. Some might do it for free.

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  • Sir Lee wrote:

    mhalpern wrote: trick is acquiring it... though a squirt of Tetrahydrothiophene may do nicely as well or another common oderizer, it isn't a brown smell, but strong enough sulfur smell will make people loose a meal.

    At Whateley? Finding someone able to synthesize some prank-worthy chemical to get back at a bully? Any one of Hazmat's lab gang would be capable to do it. Some might do it for free.

    There is that, and while effective, it isn't something that I can see Ribbon doing, especially not if it's being offered for free, whatever she does, she will do it mostly herself or at least with materials that she can get ahold of easily, maybe swapping her uniform with a manifested substitute that only has a little time before it disappears...

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  • Valentine wrote:

    mhalpern wrote:

    joreymay wrote: In terms of some "harmless" revenge, Alyss is old enough to be aware of the (declassified) OSS weapon (tested, but not deployed) which was a small squirt bottle of a liquid which produces the smell of brown pants. A squirt of that on the back of SB's skirt would give her a day she would not soon forget and a rumored rep she would not quickly live down.
    :evil:

    trick is acquiring it... though a squirt of Tetrahydrothiophene may do nicely as well or another common oderizer, it isn't a brown smell, but strong enough sulfur smell will make people loose a meal.


    I wonder if Ribbon has met Nate yet. Seems to me he's been weaponizing certain emanations.


    Someone like Hazmat shouldn't have too many problems synthesizing something like this. Of course they might not want to, but that's another story.

    As for SB, maybe Ribbon should put her in a seamless onesie, but with extra long sleeves like a straightjacket. Then either tie the sleeves to something (a light pole) or just loop them around SB and tie them up. If Ribbon doesn't want to play the baby angle, she could color the thing so SB looks like a (bound and gagged) playboy bunny.
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    I shrugged at that. “I still need to find a good project car…”

    “Just make sure you can reach the pedals,” she teased.

    “Yeah,” I responded with a shrug. “I’m taking that into consideration.”

    “Maybe platform shoes,” Martina suggested.

    I responded in the mature manner of the responsible adult I really was beneath my cute girlish exterior. I flipped her off with both hands, which earned a laugh.

    “Maybe a monster truck,” I said with a grin. “I’ve got to admit, I’ve got a lot to compensate for…”

    My vote would be for her to acquire an Alvis Stalwart bodyshell from somewhere. Of course that is exotic enough that some of the Gearheads might decide to help Alyss turn that into an amphibian fit for the 21st century, without the drivetrain issues the originals had. Maybe with things like an all-electric drivetrain, drive-by-wire, all axle independent multimode steering and pedals placed where Alyss can get at them.

    Remember that Ergonomic put together a baby Bolo in a couple of months, though he was probably dricking at the time.

    “Maybe a go cart,” my roommate suggested.

    I snorted at that. “Those Team Awesome kids in Hawthorne would just steal it.”

    “And security would chase them all over campus,” Martina said with a grin. “Sounds like a win-win to me.”

    “You’re not the one who’d have to chase them down to get the damn thing back,” I pointed out.

    That sounds like 'Super Mario Karts: Whateley edition'. I like it!

    But how about an all terrain motorized skateboard with large self-adjusting smartwheels (not stamped Radiks)?
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  • Echo wrote: Has there been speculation on what kind of vehicle Alyss might choose as a project vehicle?

    I shrugged at that. “I still need to find a good project car…”

    “Just make sure you can reach the pedals,” she teased.

    “Yeah,” I responded with a shrug. “I’m taking that into consideration.”

    “Maybe platform shoes,” Martina suggested.

    I responded in the mature manner of the responsible adult I really was beneath my cute girlish exterior. I flipped her off with both hands, which earned a laugh.

    “Maybe a monster truck,” I said with a grin. “I’ve got to admit, I’ve got a lot to compensate for…”

    My vote would be for her to acquire an Alvis Stalwart bodyshell from somewhere. Of course that is exotic enough that some of the Gearheads might decide to help Alyss turn that into an amphibian fit for the 21st century, without the drivetrain issues the originals had. Maybe with things like an all-electric drivetrain, drive-by-wire, all axle independent multimode steering and pedals placed where Alyss can get at them.

    Remember that Ergonomic put together a baby Bolo in a couple of months, though he was probably dricking at the time.

    “Maybe a go cart,” my roommate suggested.

    I snorted at that. “Those Team Awesome kids in Hawthorne would just steal it.”

    “And security would chase them all over campus,” Martina said with a grin. “Sounds like a win-win to me.”

    “You’re not the one who’d have to chase them down to get the damn thing back,” I pointed out.

    That sounds like 'Super Mario Karts: Whateley edition'. I like it!

    But how about an all terrain motorized skateboard with large self-adjusting smartwheels (not stamped Radiks)?

    Car, not something that would be classified as a motor scooter, preferably with (significantly) more than 5 brake HP to go on the freeway. I'll bet a pickup or something to that nature with pedal extensions, and a cute paint job to make it fit her, big pickup, dressed up girly, with skulls.

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  • On the topic of Ribbon's future car and the petals: given that Ribbon has some level of telekinetic control of her ribbons, would she be able to press the petals completely with her ribbons and TK?

    I'm also curious how thick she can make her fabric and if she can essentially make platform socks to increase her height.

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  • Sir Lee wrote: Petals? It's a car, not a flower.

    pedals, not petals! :oops:

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  • Angeldude wrote: On the topic of Ribbon's future car and the petals: given that Ribbon has some level of telekinetic control of her ribbons, would she be able to press the petals completely with her ribbons and TK?

    I'm also curious how thick she can make her fabric and if she can essentially make platform socks to increase her height.

    She has some TK control of the manifested fabric, but as I recall it remained... fabric... with all the inherent lack of force implied. I suspect she couldn't easily make it exert enough force to push pedals in a car.
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  • Why stick with a pedal system? Why not use some other control scheme, possibly involving various buttons ?

    There's tons of gadgeteers... Although, an alternate control scheme would have to be licensed and tested and stuff???
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  • She doesn't need to use her TK or anything really. Short cut And big Al would easily know about this and be able to retrofit any existing car.

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  • mhalpern wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote:

    mhalpern wrote: trick is acquiring it... though a squirt of Tetrahydrothiophene may do nicely as well or another common oderizer, it isn't a brown smell, but strong enough sulfur smell will make people loose a meal.

    At Whateley? Finding someone able to synthesize some prank-worthy chemical to get back at a bully? Any one of Hazmat's lab gang would be capable to do it. Some might do it for free.

    There is that, and while effective, it isn't something that I can see Ribbon doing, especially not if it's being offered for free [snip]

    Mischief's friend Trixie absolutely would do it for free. She already provides stuff like that to Melissa. As long as Ribbon used it within a reasonable timeframe and reported back the results...and Melissa and Imp get to watch.

    Echo wrote: Has there been speculation on what kind of vehicle Alyss might choose as a project vehicle?

    “Maybe a go cart,” my roommate suggested.

    I snorted at that. “Those Team Awesome kids in Hawthorne would just steal it.”

    “And security would chase them all over campus,” Martina said with a grin. “Sounds like a win-win to me.”

    “You’re not the one who’d have to chase them down to get the damn thing back,” I pointed out.

    That sounds like 'Super Mario Karts: Whateley edition'. I like it!

    But how about an all terrain motorized skateboard with large self-adjusting smartwheels (not stamped Radiks)?

    I think the go-karts are actually a really good idea for Alyss. But it wouldn't be one. It would be a full fleet for her to maintain. I cannot really express the difference between the go-karts you can find on small rental tracks that have one or two loops, and those that can go 60 mph (95 kph) or the full-electric karts. The upper-end gas karts and the electric karts are simply exhilarating.

    Alyss could use her general engine-tuning skills, and apply gadgeteer technology from her Gearhead peers to make a set of really insane karts. Break 100 mph and be safe for non-regens to use. Heck, make a PK Brick or Regenerator-4+ Only league and make them scream.

    Run the track on three days during the school week, charge league fees, and defray some of those tuition fees and pay back Melanie and Rich.
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  • Malady wrote: Why stick with a pedal system? Why not use some other control scheme, possibly involving various buttons ?

    There's tons of gadgeteers... Although, an alternate control scheme would have to be licensed and tested and stuff???

    You are forgetting a little stipulation for having a vehicle at Whateley, especially as she has a learner's permit, it is at least highly recommend to take Whateley's version of a driving course and having to use your hands for the accelerator and brakes will not easily do it

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  • JG wrote: there are a lot of powerful idiots in the world.


    Yeah, but Ribbon seems to be competent at the least.




    Ribbon's new car.

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  • The car could require something Ribbon-specific, like how Jade / Handler's gadgets needed their brand of TK to work.

    Or it needs hotwiring to work, and hoping the TLW / Mischief "don't" think of that, which is a faint hope?
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  • Kettlekorn wrote: Hand controls shouldn't be a problem unless they were designed by an idiot.


    For normal driving yes, but the defensive driving hell course that is Whateley's driving lessons, no it isn't, it needs to preform race feats for its vehicle class,

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  • mhalpern wrote:

    Kettlekorn wrote: Hand controls shouldn't be a problem unless they were designed by an idiot.


    For normal driving yes, but the defensive driving hell course that is Whateley's driving lessons, no it isn't, it needs to preform race feats for its vehicle class,

    So? Feet only handle three functions in driving: throttle, brakes, and clutch. Hands, meanwhile, have eight fingers and two thumbs. Some of those are occupied by gripping the steering wheel or gear selector, but there are still plenty free to reallocate to throttle, brake, and clutch controls.

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  • Kettlekorn wrote:

    mhalpern wrote:

    Kettlekorn wrote: Hand controls shouldn't be a problem unless they were designed by an idiot.


    For normal driving yes, but the defensive driving hell course that is Whateley's driving lessons, no it isn't, it needs to preform race feats for its vehicle class,

    So? Feet only handle three functions in driving: throttle, brakes, and clutch. Hands, meanwhile, have eight fingers and two thumbs. Some of those are occupied by gripping the steering wheel or gear selector, but there are still plenty free to reallocate to throttle, brake, and clutch controls.


    Think about the ergonomics of pedals.

    You can adjust the chair forwards-and-backwards, so why not have a set of pedals that are designed to work with a 10-year-old-sized body?

    He would be able to work on something like that in the Gearheads lab.


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  • Hand controls for cars is a long-solved problem. Start with an automatic, complement it with a combined accelerator/servo-brake control -- usually a ring on the steering wheel.
    But Alyss has full foot function, she's just short. There are such pedal adaptations, for use by dwarfs, for instance. She even has enough foot strength to brake an eighteen-wheeler *without* power assist.
    So modifying a car for her use is not a big deal. There are many companies offering such solutions in ready-made form. Hell, Big Al probably has worked in cars with those adaptations now and then, so Alyss will be familiar with them.

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  • I think the best way to get Wondercute off of her tail is for Ribbon to make outfits for them that look like Jericho designed them. Even better would be if Ribbon collaborated with Jericho on them.

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  • Ribbon-cloth isn't permanent though?

    Dev Brownies even with just Ember, would have been pretty bad.

    Yeah! Finally counter Gravmax! ... And how else would things suddenly dropping be explained, other than his powers?

    Wild Pack. Yeah, I can't take that name seriously. Adam, you really need to pick a better name...

    Imagine if R&R was the first intro to Whateley, and you took everything without UnreliableNarrator... Wow, things would be different! 'Cause R&R don't know that Security Auxiliaries are a thing.

    PoisonedWeaponry! So rare to see at Whateley, no? ... I guess if Saph can't provide the poison at any point, just run to the chem labs and make something... ... Aquerna working with Jerry to manufacture poison for her claws??? *shrug*

    Ebidium was made by Dr. Diabolik??! Woah.

    I wonder if TeamAwesome's tagged for another story... ... And if anyone could resist joining Wondercute... But, they know where to stop, unlike Gen2 Remake... I think...

    A psi is like the only power they don't have. Lol.

    Aegis... So, you trying for RescueRomances? That "Deliberately Seeking Romance" just totally taints a rescue, ya know?

    I hope Downpour gets help from Wondercute... Or just plain eating sweets... ... Fanidea! Wondercute Costumes for every girl!

    Cardcaptor Sakura is so weird to me, Given that Tarot Style Magic is a thing in the WU... How do things like Ghost in the Shell and other cyberpunky stuff change, 'cause Dev and Gadg are focused in Japan? ... I guess we'll hear about that as worldbuild in G2 as the PODs start butterflying harder...

    The lack of F2M AgeRegresses is interesting... *shrug* ... GAIA! :Lol:

    Caitlin is RA in Hawthorne, and Miranda's there as well. Is it weird having your older sister as an RA??

    I expected the brownies to find their way to Tink, but no.
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  • Malady wrote: A psi is like the only power they don't have. Lol.


    One could argue that Jade is a PDP, but she really doesn't like classifications.

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  • Good story.

    Glad to see Starbitch get one, and Gravmax really needs to learn. Imagine once Razorback and Caitlyn find out, he's going to be crying. Outcasts do NOT tolerate bullies. This will not end well for him.


    THE SEEDS APPROACH ALYSS AND MARTINA! YES!
    I honestly hope they end up accepting, because the only truly awful Seeds are Jobe and Jay-arm, the rest are pretty awesome people or Winter (who isn't too bad).

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  • A town for mutants you say. Hmm, why does that sound familiar. Could there be a vacation in Spiral err I mean Home in the future?
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  • Malady wrote: Ribbon-cloth isn't permanent though?

    I keep waiting for someone to forget that they're wearing Ribbon-cloth and have it vanish on them. :D


    I'm slightly jealous, because I've had a concept for a pro-mutant town rolling around in my head for a while. On the other hand, I'm probably never going to turn my ideas into actual stories, and I borrowed the idea from Spiral in the first place so I can hardly blame Morpheus for reclaiming his own idea.

    Oh look, it's Unstoppable! I remember him! This is going to be fun.


    Alyss, at Whateley the "you don't want to admit you were beaten up by a little girl" shtick doesn't work nearly as well. Here, little girl beatings will provoke sympathy and understanding as well as laughter and humiliation.

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  • Glad to see Starbitch get one, and Gravmax really needs to learn. Imagine once Razorback and Caitlyn find out, he's going to be crying. Outcasts do NOT tolerate bullies. This will not end well for him.

    I can picture it now...Grav being chased by Razor right into the waiting arms of Noms. Who will gladly give him a slice of his own power back at him.

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  • Yolandria wrote:

    Glad to see Starbitch get one, and Gravmax really needs to learn. Imagine once Razorback and Caitlyn find out, he's going to be crying. Outcasts do NOT tolerate bullies. This will not end well for him.

    I can picture it now...Grav being chased by Razor right into the waiting arms of Noms. Who will gladly give him a slice of his own power back at him.


    Of course, he won't figure it out the first time. They never do. It takes a while for the pounding to work its way through their brain.

    Buster took until apparently this new semester to figure out that Aquerna just wasn't worth it, either for the punishments or for anything else.

    wait... wait... Gravmax went after Anna. GRAV went after a HOOLIGAN/UNDERDOG/WONDERCUTE... OH DEAR GOD.

    The hooligans, the outcasts, AND wondercute? That fool boy is doomed and I cannot WAIT to read it. Please please please please please.

    It starts out simply. Just another day, another victim. Suddenly, he's wearing the wrong clothing. A very cute pink dress well suited to a cute young girl like Alyss. Before he can fully process this, a very loud hunting call echoes out across the grounds and Razorback starts charging at him. He panics and runs, reflexively making everything heavy... only it isn't working. Something is countering him... (Superchick AND Anomaly working together?). He flees. Razorback is hot on his tail. Suddenly a bunch of kids, including some dude with an invisible skateboard, a girl covered in tattoos, and some hot ass blond are all running over his path and tripping him up. Despite this, somehow, he manages to stay ahead of the raptor from hell. Somehow. At first.

    He can't get his bearings though. Everywhere he turns, somebody is cutting him off and knocking him over, forcing him to change directions as he flees. He runs for the forest, maybe he can hide there... Razorback isn't behind him anymore. He looks around, breathing out a sigh of relief... when a nut falls on his head. He looks up. Almost a hundred squirrels, a girl, and a raptor from hell are perched in the trees above him. Somehow, the squirrels are completely unafraid of the raptor. They're all staring down at him. The girl chitters something.

    Gravmax is admitted to Doyle for bite marks. He tells a wild and crazy tale about the outcasts, wondercute, and the hooligans, but all of them have alibis. Nobody else reports seeing anything, but lots of students, and cameras, swear up and down all of those people were accounted for. Gravmax finds a note tied with pink Ribbon on a very pretty pink shirt. "This is your only warning."

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  • This had me laughing in number of spots, too many to list them all.

    Though, it is a good thing Melissa is introducing herself to Thornies, she's going to be there a lot.

    I also loved that Alyss got advice from Kaylie to deal with her school issues, though maybe in retrospect I'm a little surprised she hasn't asked sooner, considering she got so much advice from her and Kimberly when she had changed. I guess that's something she needs to work on some more, asking for help instead of trying to solve the world's problems herself. Megan was the sounding board before, Amy is clearly the new one, especially now that she knows the big secret. Amy already reminds Alyss of Megan because of how motherly Amy has had to be for her own mom, and now the Thornies.

    How long before Jericho intentionally harasses Alyss (or a prearranged staged event) in order to get similar treatment and wind up in some awful dress, that he then proudly wears around?

    Amy befriending Breakdown is a good idea though. The poor girl is pretty unpopular with the devisors, and even if she had quite the freakout the first time, she recognizes the real benefits of a second opinion.

    The Downpour Support Network grows to include Wondercute interventions!

    Who's the best qualified to work on Imp's fancy one-of-a-kind motorcycle at the school?
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  • Malady wrote: Ribbon-cloth isn't permanent though?

    Dev Brownies even with just Ember, would have been pretty bad.

    Yeah! Finally counter Gravmax! ... And how else would things suddenly dropping be explained, other than his powers?

    Wild Pack. Yeah, I can't take that name seriously. Adam, you really need to pick a better name...

    Imagine if R&R was the first intro to Whateley, and you took everything without UnreliableNarrator... Wow, things would be different! 'Cause R&R don't know that Security Auxiliaries are a thing.

    PoisonedWeaponry! So rare to see at Whateley, no? ... I guess if Saph can't provide the poison at any point, just run to the chem labs and make something... ... Aquerna working with Jerry to manufacture poison for her claws??? *shrug*

    Ebidium was made by Dr. Diabolik??! Woah.

    I wonder if TeamAwesome's tagged for another story... ... And if anyone could resist joining Wondercute... But, they know where to stop, unlike Gen2 Remake... I think...

    A psi is like the only power they don't have. Lol.

    Aegis... So, you trying for RescueRomances? That "Deliberately Seeking Romance" just totally taints a rescue, ya know?

    I hope Downpour gets help from Wondercute... Or just plain eating sweets... ... Fanidea! Wondercute Costumes for every girl!

    Cardcaptor Sakura is so weird to me, Given that Tarot Style Magic is a thing in the WU... How do things like Ghost in the Shell and other cyberpunky stuff change, 'cause Dev and Gadg are focused in Japan? ... I guess we'll hear about that as worldbuild in G2 as the PODs start butterflying harder...

    The lack of F2M AgeRegresses is interesting... *shrug* ... GAIA! :Lol:

    Caitlin is RA in Hawthorne, and Miranda's there as well. Is it weird having your older sister as an RA??

    I expected the brownies to find their way to Tink, but no.


    They don't need mind control, they have Jade's eyes...

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  • Iwasforger03 wrote:
    Of course, he won't figure it out the first time. They never do. It takes a while for the pounding to work its way through their brain.

    Buster took until apparently this new semester to figure out that Aquerna just wasn't worth it, either for the punishments or for anything else.

    wait... wait... Gravmax went after Anna. GRAV went after a HOOLIGAN/UNDERDOG/WONDERCUTE... OH DEAR GOD.

    The hooligans, the outcasts, AND wondercute AND the DRAGONSLAYERS and Ayla, Chaka, TNT and the Furies, many of the Devisors/Gadgeteers, Handmaid's Own, ? That fool boy is doomed and I cannot WAIT to read it. Please please please please please.

    It starts out simply. Just another day, another victim. Suddenly, he's wearing the wrong clothing. A very cute pink dress well suited to a cute young girl like Alyss. Before he can fully process this, a very loud hunting call echoes out across the grounds and Razorback starts charging at him. He panics and runs, reflexively making everything heavy... only it isn't working. Something is countering him... (Superchick AND Anomaly working together?). He flees. Razorback is hot on his tail. Suddenly a bunch of kids, including some dude with an invisible skateboard, a girl covered in tattoos, and some hot ass blond are all running over his path and tripping him up. Despite this, somehow, he manages to stay ahead of the raptor from hell. Somehow. At first.

    He can't get his bearings though. Everywhere he turns, somebody is cutting him off and knocking him over, forcing him to change directions as he flees. He runs for the forest, maybe he can hide there... Razorback isn't behind him anymore. He looks around, breathing out a sigh of relief... when a nut falls on his head. He looks up. Almost a hundred squirrels, a girl, and a raptor from hell are perched in the trees above him. Somehow, the squirrels are completely unafraid of the raptor. They're all staring down at him. The girl chitters something.

    Gravmax is admitted to Doyle for bite marks. He tells a wild and crazy tale about the outcasts, wondercute, and the hooligans, but all of them have alibis. Nobody else reports seeing anything, but lots of students, and cameras, swear up and down all of those people were accounted for. Gravmax finds a note tied with pink Ribbon on a very pretty pink shirt. "This is your only warning."


    Fixed that. Aquerna has never realized how many friends she's made at Whateley.

    Alyss and Wondercute. I wonder if Alyss has realized how much knowing them will help her deal with her grandkids, and probably fit in better.

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  • I do find it interesting that the Bad Seeds haven't yet put together that those bracelets AREN'T just jewelry, after all, what's 30lbs of a round smooth object for an Ex 6? Nothing. What's a 30lb round smooth object thrown by an Ex6? probably at least equivalent an ancient 20lb cannon,

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  • mhalpern wrote: I do find it interesting that the Bad Seeds haven't yet put together that those bracelets AREN'T just jewelry, after all, what's 30lbs of a round smooth object for an Ex 6? Nothing. What's a 30lb round smooth object thrown by an Ex6? probably at least equivalent an ancient 20lb cannon,

    Jadis probably figured it out, but was too polite to say anything.

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  • Yeah, Mal was lost in devisor-land thinking about whatever he could build with that Ebidium... without pausing to consider what's it being used for now.

    In fact, anybody with a reasonable grasp of physical altercations should consider that those bracelets would at the very least make very dangerous "brass" knuckles. But Mal is not the fisticuffs type, he's more the laser blaster type.

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    That's a silly question...Loophole for sure. Hell she probably could improve on it if she put her mind to it.

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  • Iwasforger03 wrote: He panics and runs, reflexively making everything heavy... only it isn't working. Something is countering him... (Superchick AND Anomaly working together?).


    Why not? Anomaly's on the same floor as Generator, in the boys' wing with Murphy.

    Now picture the same tag team, but with all the dirty warper tricks that Joanne's picked up since arrival.

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  • Boy is doomed mate, doomed.

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  • I can't find "un"Stoppable on the wiki, and I forgot his powers

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  • Iwasforger03 wrote: Boy is doomed mate, doomed.


    Could be worse, actually. I imagine someone could arrange for Gravmax to spill a cup of soda on Imperious's favorite shirt...

    I suppose that for an encore he could hit on Alakazam, or blurt out something nasty about Asians and dragons in front of Zheng Long and/or Thuban.

    And, oh shit, if Buster's dumb enough to lean on younger kids without finding out their powers first (in S&S 2), what happened last year when he did that to the TLW? I expect misfortune followed him for at least a few hours after that. Perhaps while holding a cup of soda near Majestic.

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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote:

    Malady wrote: Ribbon-cloth isn't permanent though?

    I keep waiting for someone to forget that they're wearing Ribbon-cloth and have it vanish on them. :D


    I'm slightly jealous, because I've had a concept for a pro-mutant town rolling around in my head for a while. On the other hand, I'm probably never going to turn my ideas into actual stories, and I borrowed the idea from Spiral in the first place so I can hardly blame Morpheus for reclaiming his own idea.

    Oh look, it's Unstoppable! I remember him! This is going to be fun.


    Alyss, at Whateley the "you don't want to admit you were beaten up by a little girl" shtick doesn't work nearly as well. Here, little girl beatings will provoke sympathy and understanding as well as laughter and humiliation.


    I am waiting for someone to not know they are wearing Ribbon-cloth until it vanishes about an hour and a half later....

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  • mhalpern wrote:

    Arcanist Lupus wrote:

    Malady wrote: Ribbon-cloth isn't permanent though?

    I keep waiting for someone to forget that they're wearing Ribbon-cloth and have it vanish on them. :D


    I am waiting for someone to not know they are wearing Ribbon-cloth until it vanishes about an hour and a half later....


    I'm not sure if Alyss would do that, though if she did, she'd probably do it in the locker room, where she could simply hide and replace the person's clothes... and she's in the same BMA class as Starbright, so she'd be the obvious target.

    OTOH, I can also see Murphy putting Ribbon up to making a duplicate of, say, Solange's clothes (I just can't imagine her giving up on tormenting Tansy even with her change of heart over the summer - Joanne isn't the sort to trust that kind of sudden heel-face turn), given how easily she can get into and out of places.

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  • Ribbon's manifested fabric lasts about twenty-four hours. So, if she wants to prank someone, she would have to create the replacement clothing in the previous day the replacement happens.

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  • I think Alyss would consider the clothing trick taking that too far. Way too far.

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  • Just finished reading.

    I have this weird feeling that someone's Granddaughter will manifest soon. maybe on Parents day!

    My thought's on Diedrick's is that it is similar to a Regen's TCS...just not as bad.

    I think they are burning through chemicals that the brain needs to think in a balanced manner, or maybe they are overproducing endorphins or a waste substance that their body needs time to regulate.

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  • mhalpern wrote: I can't find "un"Stoppable on the wiki, and I forgot his powers


    I believe this is his debut in cannon so he wouldn't be in the wiki yet. Well maybe by now.
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  • mhalpern wrote: I can't find "un"Stoppable on the wiki, and I forgot his powers


    He is from the Absinthe 2 fan fic, where his powers were apparently getting beaten up by Underdogs.

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  • And of course, nobody told him what the Whateley crowd associates with the word "Unstoppable," otherwise he might have chosen some other codename...
    crystalhall.wikia.com/wiki/Unstoppable_Three

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  • Even if you ignore those three, any name like "Unstoppable" is just asking for trouble. In the words of the internet, "Challenge accepted."

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  • I can't wait until he gets on the wrong side of Team Kimba or Aquerna... or the Outcasts... or Kodiak... or Loophole, or... well, damned near anybody outsider the freshman.

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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote: Oh look, it's Unstoppable! I remember him! This is going to be fun.


    What was the story where he was defeated and mocked?
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  • joreymay wrote:

    Arcanist Lupus wrote: Oh look, it's Unstoppable! I remember him! This is going to be fun.


    What was the story where he was defeated and mocked?


    Absinthe 2 fanfic over at Big Closet. bigclosetr.us/topshelf/fiction/50693/absinthe-2-absinthe-malice

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  • It has been demonstrated quite clearly, especially in the case of certain codenames, that the universe has a sense of humor and it will take every opportunity to bring low anyone who takes a codename they don't deserve, usually by way of utilizing other mutants as its catspaws. Sometimes this can be via destructive means. Other times, it's likely to make the codename meaningful, often in strange ways. And yet other times it takes a 'step back and wait' approach, like in the curious symmetry of Rosethorn and Thorn, two gentlemen of the old school who have an implicit understanding of one another and no desire to escalate the argument: undoubtedly if a true issue arose, they'd each fight to be the first to relinquish their codename lest it inconvenience the other.

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  • Reread the fanfic selectively (time) Unstoppable is either an Exemplar without the mental package or an internal Energizer, for strength. I would like to see how he does against Ribbon in a horse stance

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  • Iwasforger03 wrote: I can't wait until he gets on the wrong side of Team Kimba or Aquerna... or the Outcasts... or Kodiak... or Loophole, or... well, damned near anybody outsider the freshman.


    I think Miasma would be too much for "Stoppable"

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  • Something that popped into my head the other day in relation to Alyss.

    I was a big fan of Jack Chalker back in the day

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_L._Chalker

    He was one of the only mainstream authors I knew who was both prolific and included transformations and gender switching in his stories.

    A theme he hit in a lot of these cases was the effect that Hormone's play on the body, and personality. He had cases where a protagonist was turned into a bimbo by ramping up the appropriate hormones. It was not gratuitous mind you. They were not that sort of books.

    But it got me to thinking about the fact that Alyss lacks a lot, or all, of the hormones that helped form Big Al's personality.
    I have to believe that this would have an effect on her character. Memory and conditioned behavior would mean this would not be a sudden transformation, but over time she might find herself becoming more 'little' girl like because of it.

    Right now she is using the excuse that she is indulging others to participate in things like Tea Parties and binge watching Hamtaro. But maybe there is more there than that.

    Not saying she's suddenly going to fall in love with cute girly stuff, but she might become more childlike in some ways simply because of feedback and the fact she lacks adult hormones.
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  • It's possible, but then, her mind is already fully developed. Short of brain trauma or some sort of dementia, she shouldn't devolve.

    OTOH, her youthful body might make it felt through other things. Like tastebuds, for instance. I wonder how long it will take for her to admit that whiskey and cigars don't taste as good as they used to, and that sugary desserts taste MUCH better than she remembered...
    Her sense of smell is different -- she won't react to female (or male, for that matter) pheromones like Big Al used to. Her taste is different. Her hearing is likely to be much sharper, hearing high-frequency sounds that Big Al's old eardrums had long forgotten existed. Her eyesight is sharper, and likely has better color discrimination (women often have). All this should subtly influence her and change her tastes in several ways.

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  • Her hormones are also currently at a much lower state than they were as Big Al. Until she starts puberty, when she will begin getting a big rush of female hormones, she is likely to keep cruising along on her memories of what is what.

    Also a big part of her diving into the dressing and playing like a girl, is that Big Al always thought that little girls should be little girls. A bit sexist of him, but he comes by it honestly and follows it herself. He also understood the dress appropriately, which she still does, as seen in the autoshop.

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  • The see more colors bit is genetic and can occur in men, but is more likely in women. If he didn't have it as Big Al, he shouldn't have it as Alyss, strictly speaking. I suppose it could happen, but it's bloody unlikely.

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  • Sir Lee wrote: It's possible, but then, her mind is already fully developed. Short of brain trauma or some sort of dementia, she shouldn't devolve.

    Except that as an exemplar, her brain could be rewired to an extent, not just in operating faster, it is true this isn't always the case, and it is hard to tell how often it is, but we know with some changelings for example, we see changes in 'preferences', some didn't have problems with their birth gender and don't have problems with it post manifestation. While her core personality is likely to remain the same, but now there is a lot more room for it to change. And consider this, under the assumption that she just ages REALLY slowly now, imagine how much years of "little girl" slowly shaping her personality, will be hit once she reaches puberty, an exemplar 6 puberty at that, remembering that exemplars tend to have stupid amounts of hormones in them.

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  • Actually there is some evidence of small personality rewrite with Alyss in Steel Ribbon that isn't just owning her change

    "Weird?" I asked, reaching up to touch my hair a little self-consciously.

    "I wasn't going to say anything," Melanie said, looking down at me with an uncomfortable expression. Then she quickly blurted out, "I mean, you do look very pretty, but... "

    I let out a sigh at that, wondering why I felt bothered by that. I'd never considered myself vain before, at least not about anything but my beard. But now, I actually felt a little bothered by the idea that they thought I looked weird. And the fact was, with my eye and hair color, it wasn't a surprise.

    She had just chosen her new name at that point, and she already started thinking at least partially like a girl.

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  • Iwasforger03 wrote: The see more colors bit is genetic and can occur in men, but is more likely in women. If he didn't have it as Big Al, he shouldn't have it as Alyss, strictly speaking. I suppose it could happen, but it's bloody unlikely.


    That's the thing about a BIT... not driven by previous genetic data. it COULD use a fair portion of it but just the fact it rebuilds some people into radically different forms should be an indicator of what may have happened "under the hood"
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  • peter wrote: A theme he hit in a lot of these cases was the effect that Hormone's play on the body, and personality. He had cases where a protagonist was turned into a bimbo by ramping up the appropriate hormones. It was not gratuitous mind you. They were not that sort of books.

    But it got me to thinking about the fact that Alyss lacks a lot, or all, of the hormones that helped form Big Al's personality.
    I have to believe that this would have an effect on her character. Memory and conditioned behavior would mean this would not be a sudden transformation, but over time she might find herself becoming more 'little' girl like because of it.


    Not as much as you might think. Big Al had reached an age where many of his hormones were at close to prepubescent levels. And after the transformation, his new hormones (though a somewhat different specific mix) were also close to prepubescent levels. If Alyss had manifested as a few years older, he would have been hit with a potent hormone shock (as many changeling characters are).
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  • Yeah, there are a lot of characters in the Whateley Universe that have names that are in use in Marvel or DC.
    one could almost make a topic of it.

    The biggest one I can think of is Falcon.

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  • Rose Bunny wrote: Yeah, there are a lot of characters in the Whateley Universe that have names that are in use in Marvel or DC.
    one could almost make a topic of it.

    The biggest one I can think of is Falcon.


    One even had her friend buy Marvel just to get permission to use her desired codename.

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  • Codenames long out of use or which are registered at certain points get overridden. Very generic codenames sometimes find the copyight won't stick as long as the hero using it has a distinctive likness (i think) very different from the comic book character.

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  • Yeah, if a word is commonplace outside of the comic, and the comic character is not very well known, and the person using it is not at all similar to the character than a copyright claim is not very likely to stick. It's certainly not going to be worth suing over a freshman's unofficial codename for a student who likely doesn't have plans of going into the hero business.

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    Is that Alyss' Wondercute outfit in the last panel?

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  • Valentine wrote: On the Fastrack 9 Aug 17

    Is that Alyss' Wondercute outfit in the last panel?


    She is not very informed on the state of Anime is she? There are plenty of goths in Anime and some pretty goth animes out there.

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  • Sir Lee wrote: Her eyesight is sharper, and likely has better color discrimination (women often have).


    I'm fairly sure that one has been well and truly debunked. Ability to decern colours is directly based on how many colour receptors you have. And the vast majority of the population has three. People who are colour blind only have two, and there are a very small number of people out there who have four.
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  • konzill wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: Her eyesight is sharper, and likely has better color discrimination (women often have).


    I'm fairly sure that one has been well and truly debunked. Ability to decern colours is directly based on how many colour receptors you have. And the vast majority of the population has three. People who are colour blind only have two, and there are a very small number of people out there who have four.


    Yes, the thing is those few who have four are almost universally women.

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  • Jarjaross wrote: Yes, the thing is those few who have four are almost universally women.

    Which makes for an interesting take on feminism in the Lightbringer series by Brent Weeks, where the magic system depends on the users' ability to see color.

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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote:

    Jarjaross wrote: Yes, the thing is those few who have four are almost universally women.

    Which makes for an interesting take on feminism in the Lightbringer series by Brent Weeks, where the magic system depends on the users' ability to see color.


    Nah. That just lets me blame it on my mother... except the wierdo cousins who like outdoors sunlight are on that side of the family.

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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote:

    Jarjaross wrote: Yes, the thing is those few who have four are almost universally women.

    Which makes for an interesting take on feminism in the Lightbringer series by Brent Weeks, where the magic system depends on the users' ability to see color.


    Fantastic series, very much enjoying it.

    your color receptors are connected to the x chromosome, i believe? Thus why women have the lion's share of people with 4?

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    7 years 7 months ago #153 by amratner
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  • I have not read all the posts, but there seems to be a date problem with this story. R&R 2 starts on Sept 18, with is after R&R 3.
    Or did I miss something?
    7 years 7 months ago #154 by Valentine
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  • R&R 1 is Aug 27+
    R&R 2 is Sep 22+
    R&R 3 is Oct 26+

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    7 years 7 months ago #155 by amratner
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  • The following are from R&R #:
    A Little R&R
    By Morpheus
    Part 3
    Hawthorne, Sunday September 2nd, 2007
    Monday September 3rd, 2007
    Roulette:
    Labor Day. The first Monday in September was Labor Day

    Where do you get the date you gave above?
    7 years 7 months ago - 7 years 7 months ago #156 by null0trooper
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  • amratner wrote: The following are from R&R #:
    A Little R&R
    By Morpheus
    Part 3
    Hawthorne, Sunday September 2nd, 2007
    Monday September 3rd, 2007
    Roulette:
    Labor Day. The first Monday in September was Labor Day

    Where do you get the date you gave above?


    It's from "A Little R&R 3" , which does start with events on October 26, 2007. "A Little R&R 2: Alyss in Wondercute Land" does start on September 22, 2007, NOT September 18, 2007, which is covered [Edit: Elsewhere but not] in part 2 of "A Little R&R".

    You're confusing the part (of the story) numbers with the story numbers, so you may have missed a lot of good storytelling.

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    Last Edit: 7 years 7 months ago by null0trooper. Reason: September 18 is probably in someone else's story altogether.
    7 years 7 months ago #157 by Valentine
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  • amratner wrote: The following are from R&R #:
    A Little R&R
    By Morpheus
    Part 3
    Hawthorne, Sunday September 2nd, 2007
    Monday September 3rd, 2007
    Roulette:
    Labor Day. The first Monday in September was Labor Day

    Where do you get the date you gave above?


    A Little R&R 1 Part 1
    A Little R&R 1 Part 2
    A Little R&R 1 Part 3

    A Little R&R 2 Part 1
    A Little R&R 2 Part 2

    A Little R&R 3 Part 1

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