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7 years 10 months ago #1 by Katssun
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  • Let's talk about Tansy's trauma!




    So just starting off, Kayda, once again, incapable of keeping her mouth shut when confronted, blurts out what's been happening underneath vehicles in the garage. Some things never change.

    Tansy's memories are gross. No wonder she has issues. A 4 year old, who is fully aware her nanny is doing things with her father? Abandonment issues, and the niggling realization that something is very, very wrong? Then everything she enjoys (except the horse) gets ripped away from her just because she doesn't do it "perfectly"? I'm not even sure what to feel. Disgust? Anger? Pity?

    I hope we'll be seeing her apologizing to and making peace with Jadis soon. Tansy seems to have forgotten how close they were, even though she betrayed her once they got to Whateley. Jadis is at least, fairly forgiving to those who admit their faults, and I'm sure she'd like another literary sparring partner on the fixer patio.

    So...if Tansy needed a person to defend her physically, and also defend her spiritually on her vision quest...how reckless was Kayda when she did hers totally solo?
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  • This is the place to comment, if you so desire. Or ask questions. Or throw perjorative comments about Tansy's upbringing. Or whatever.

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    7 years 10 months ago #3 by Katssun
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  • The scene where Tansy spontaneously starts singing on the boat simulator makes a bit more sense now. Tansy really loved sailing.

    Can't wait for the boat race!
    7 years 10 months ago #4 by Rose Bunny
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  • well, in Kayda's vision quest, If worst case scenario, Tatanka could probably have manifested to keep her safe, perhaps?

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    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #5 by Malady
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  • Tansy's childhood was terrible, mostly. There were some bright spots though. Yes...

    Ayla was teased as being girly... Now he's half-girl, sorta. Coincidence?

    I can't trust Wakan Tanka. She has plans and stuff. The Vision Quest, I think was just another thing to get hooks into Tansy so she'd stick with Kayda.

    Not that it didn't help Tansy, but we don't know that Tansy 'would' have crashed and burned. We just have guesses? ... How was she being self-destructive? ... Also WT is feeding Tansy the answers for her vision quest...

    ... Why didn't she have to pee during the ~6hr bit before getting to the lodge?!?! ... And then she has to pee at the lodge a little while after. Magic isn't working so well? ... Why??

    Tansy could feel the pain in Miss Holster's mind and her mother's growing concern.


    What. Was even her young self an psi?? Or was it Dream Magic? Or what??

    ...

    Why is her mother being moved to Arkham? Isn't that for mutants only? Or general psych as well?? What does her father have to say about this??

    So, her mother broke down from the loss? Or something else??
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  • Malady wrote: Ayla was teased as being girly... Now he's half-girl, sorta. Coincidence?
    ...
    Not that it didn't help Tansy, but we don't know that Tansy 'would' have crashed and burned. We just have guesses? ... How was she being self-destructive?

    Extremely suspicious about Ayla. He frequently mentions Tansy's bullying as being somewhat formative. Was she eroding his confidence the same way her desire to not be ugly influenced her BIT?

    Maybe we'll see some of her self-destructive behavior in Danny's stories. Or maybe a lot of it is simply her guilt eating her from the inside.

    And I don't care what the spirits say to try to justify it. Swans are assholes.
    7 years 10 months ago #7 by E. E. Nalley
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  • Katssun wrote: Let's talk about Tansy's trauma!

    I hope we'll be seeing her apologizing to and making peace with Jadis soon. Tansy seems to have forgotten how close they were, even though she betrayed her once they got to Whateley. Jadis is at least, fairly forgiving to those who admit their faults, and I'm sure she'd like another literary sparring partner on the fixer patio.


    Seeing soon? That's up to Kristin. But it's already written...

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  • I can see a couple possible scenarios for Marissa Walcutt's transfer. The first (likely) scenario is that ARC functions as the Dunwich area's primary mental health institution, similar to how Doyle is a Level 1 or Level 2 trauma center for the region. Outsiders don't need to know that there actually is a floor 500, and that it happens to be filled with cryo pods. Tansy would be aware of this, and arranged for the transfer of her mother so that she could visit on a semi-regular basis.

    The second scenario is more interesting. Tansy's father blamed her mother for passing the metagene complex onto her daughter. Let us assume this is true. More so, let us theorize that not only did Marissa posses the metagene complex, it was actually active for her. We can guess that she might have had a mental package, similar to her daughter. If she burned out during the accident trying to save her friend, it could have left her with mental damage that wouldn't have shown on an MRI. ARC would be uniquely qualified to handle this type of injury.

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  • cprime, I have no doubts that it's a variant on your first scenario. Remember, Tansy said that she had to do something that would involve Hartford... and the very next day Tansy's mom is transferred to an institution near Whateley, with which Whateley has a close relationship? It would be an amazing coincidence if this happened to be scenario 2.

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  • It was very emotional.

    She has already apologized to Ayla, we will have to see for Jadis. But I hope it will go further than that. She needs friends and they have a lot of things in common. Of course I don't know how realistic it would be because it's not like going from tormentor to best friends is something really common (but not impossible).

    I assume this is the story you were talking about when you asked the community to search for Tansy/Jadis/Ayla's schools they went to ?

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  • Malady wrote: Tansy's childhood was terrible, mostly. There were some bright spots though. Yes...

    Ayla was teased as being girly... Now he's half-girl, sorta. Coincidence?

    I can't trust Wakan Tanka. She has plans and stuff. The Vision Quest, I think was just another thing to get hooks into Tansy so she'd stick with Kayda.

    Not that it didn't help Tansy, but we don't know that Tansy 'would' have crashed and burned. We just have guesses? ... How was she being self-destructive? ... Also WT is feeding Tansy the answers for her vision quest...

    ... Why didn't she have to pee during the ~6hr bit before getting to the lodge?!?! ... And then she has to pee at the lodge a little while after. Magic isn't working so well? ... Why??

    Tansy could feel the pain in Miss Holster's mind and her mother's growing concern.


    What. Was even her young self an psi?? Or was it Dream Magic? Or what??

    ...

    Why is her mother being moved to Arkham? Isn't that for mutants only? Or general psych as well?? What does her father have to say about this??

    So, her mother broke down from the loss? Or something else??


    Ayla also looked up to his mother as the "overcoming adversity" role model, as for Arkham, probably General psych as well, for one thing they need a place for the interns, and while there are facilities all over the country, there isn't exactly a surplus of people trained to handle headcases, and fewer that are willing to handle committed or incarcerated headcases, you send them to whomever is equipped and has room. They aren't allowed to be picky in whom they get, besides its money.

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  • One thing that instantly came to mind, the obvious place for Lady Havoc to be sent is ARC, so will Tansy figure out the truth about Alyss, and if so, what will she do about it?

    I am keeping this separate because it has little to do with my last post,

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  • As I said, I also think scenario 1 is the most likely. However, even with Tansy (apparently) arranging for her mother's move, we can't rule out scenario 2. If her mother was never identified as being a mutant, the burnout could (would?) have gone unnoticed, depending on how fast she recovered. Alternately, her father may have intentionally ignored the burnout symptoms, and just treated her as a regular mental case as an excuse to split from her.

    If there are mutant factors involved, she at least is (finally) at one of the best places in the country to help her deal with the fallout. Even if it is 10 years after the fact.

    Is it bad that I could see Tansy taking a left turn in her career path and going into the counseling field?

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  • I think the revelations we have in store about Tansy's future are going to take every one by surprise...

    Well, not me, I wrote it, but others! Others will be surprised!!

    :evil:

    As for the metagene complex, I will say that is is resident in the X chromosome. So if you are female, you could have gotten it from either parent, but if male, it was your mother that gave it to you.

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  • cprime wrote:
    Is it bad that I could see Tansy taking a left turn in her career path and going into the counseling field?

    "Walcott and Morgan: counseling that can take a beating"

    Well they'd have a niche...

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  • Esar wrote: She has already apologized to Ayla, we will have to see for Jadis. But I hope it will go further than that. She needs friends and they have a lot of things in common. Of course I don't know how realistic it would be because it's not like going from tormentor to best friends is something really common (but not impossible).


    They're still only in high school, and Jadis at least intellectually recogizes that expecting anything other than Total Drama from teenaged exemplars is an exercise in wishful thinking. There's still time for them to get over prior nonsense, maybe even a little sexual healing :)

    The flashbacks to Trevor - on the surface we can see how Tansy helped make his life miserable - but we also see that he's also been stuck trying to be the best little boy in the world for a family that (with a few exceptions) saw him as another thing to be "fixed" or discarded.

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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Esar wrote: She has already apologized to Ayla, we will have to see for Jadis. But I hope it will go further than that. She needs friends and they have a lot of things in common. Of course I don't know how realistic it would be because it's not like going from tormentor to best friends is something really common (but not impossible).


    They're still only in high school, and Jadis at least intellectually recogizes that expecting anything other than Total Drama from teenaged exemplars is an exercise in wishful thinking. There's still time for them to get over prior nonsense, maybe even a little sexual healing :)

    The flashbacks to Trevor - on the surface we can see how Tansy helped make his life miserable - but we also see that he's also been stuck trying to be the best little boy in the world for a family that (with a few exceptions) saw him as another thing to be "fixed" or discarded.


    We also see the classic makings of an introvert, out of any of the Goodkind kids, Trevor was the least likely to notice someone acting suspicious AND speak up about it.

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  • "Because I'm just a monster!"


    I... I think I meed to set this aside for a while after this line. At least until my eyes are so filled with tears.

    Of course, the difference between when she says this, and when I do, is that's she's wrong about it.

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    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #20 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • Ok, I'm, well, better is relative and in this case completely untrue anyway, but, functional?

    Right.

    Anyway, the last section makes me wonder if Tansy found a skeleton in her family closet, or perhaps her family gene pool. Something tells me that the reason for her mother's incarceration - not commitment, but imprisonment - might not be anything to do with drinking, nor with that accident. And now I am wondering just why Mr. Walcutt married her, why he set her aside, and most of all given his reaction to his own child's manifestation, if he had in his own mind cause to be disgusted with Tansy that had nothing to do with her weight.

    I suspect that her being an only child might not be an accident. My guess is that he only married Marissa for some family reason - either her own inheritance, or some family alliance, or even just the need for an heir - but then discovered, far too late, that she was, shall we say, tainted his eyes. Since all of his later wives were basic trophy types, ones he knew he'd set aside as soon as they started becoming a nuisance or lost their sheen, he never tried to have any children with them... and for some reason, never saw fit to make some other dynastic connection, for reasons which concerned him both personally and in terms of business.

    And if perhaps he has some information regarding the imbalanced rates of manifestation. Information which some people - like Bruce Goodkind - would literally kill to possess, or suppress.

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  • If you are so irredeemable and beyond help, why do you take this vision quest? Why try to better yourself?


    ... Uh... Tansy isn't doing this because 'she' wants to, she's sorta forced into it, by Kayda...

    It's not like she could leave...
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  • Malady wrote:

    If you are so irredeemable and beyond help, why do you take this vision quest? Why try to better yourself?


    ... Uh... Tansy isn't doing this because 'she' wants to, she's sorta forced into it, by Kayda...

    It's not like she could leave...


    Ummmm - No.
    It was the administration that indicated that Tansy needed something. They were going to intervene in one way or another eventually - possibly when it was too late for Tansy to stay at Whateley.

    Kayda and Lanie offered a way to do an intervention before such a thing happened. And we didn't see every little bit of dialog - the author's unstated fact is that there's some pre-conversation before the ball started rolling, a very brief text from Hindmost - so it wasn't totally a surprise. Only the details of WHAT happened were surprises to Tansy.

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  • Oookay, I think it's now pretty clear that Tansy never had a ghost of a chance of being someone really decent after this. I'm not even sure a saint or whatever figure of virtue you can think about could have stomached things like this during their childhood. Good job with this story. I mean, look at the character development since that time where Jinn was playing 'payback is a bitch' from inside Tansy's body. And ther is the future you're teasing us with... Really impressve.
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  • Hardric wrote: Oookay, I think it's now pretty clear that Tansy never had a ghost of a chance of being someone really decent after this.


    Well, keep in mind despite how bad things were for Tansy, as you can see in our portrayal of her, some part of her knew she was doing wrong. The best example being the conversation she had with Freya, note how hesitant she is. She knows what kind of person Freya is, she's a psychic after all, but she gives into her fear and betrays arguably the one friend she's ever had.

    She is genuinely trying to change, but this is her bed, she made it. And she's smart enough to realize it.

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  • Malady wrote:

    Tansy could feel the pain in Miss Holster's mind and her mother's growing concern.


    What. Was even her young self an psi?? Or was it Dream Magic? Or what??


    Young Tansy wasn't there. Eagle allowed older Tansy's dream self to observe that bit of history and the perceptive part of her power set was part of that observation. You could choose to call that Dream Magic.
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  • Schol-R-LEA wrote: I suspect that her being an only child might not be an accident. My guess is that he only married Marissa for some family reason - either her own inheritance, or some family alliance, or even just the need for an heir - but then discovered, far too late, that she was, shall we say, tainted his eyes. Since all of his later wives were basic trophy types, ones he knew he'd set aside as soon as they started becoming a nuisance or lost their sheen, he never tried to have any children with them... and for some reason, never saw fit to make some other dynastic connection, for reasons which concerned him both personally and in terms of business.

    And if perhaps he has some information regarding the imbalanced rates of manifestation. Information which some people - like Bruce Goodkind - would literally kill to possess, or suppress.

    I think you're on to something here, I'm just not sure what.

    First off, we don't know Marissa's maiden name, do we? That's probably a huge hint.

    Secondly, her father is tied into some Illuminati style organizations.

    Third(ly), Tansy is like...really powerful. Hides how powerful she is powerful. Like, was Alpha Queen Bee because of manipulation, but actually probably deserved the title compared to anyone else at (or expelled by) the school.

    Fourth, Hartford wants her in on the SMI2LE initiatives. Maybe not just because they mirror each other (though Hartford's abilities are also not exactly well described in detail or scope...), but also because Tansy is already a goal partially achieved?

    I don't want to say Bloodline, because I think that might be too obvious, but if it isn't the Bloodline, it is some more...Ayn Randian Illuminati copy of the Bloodline goal. An evil Shadow Cabal version of Evolution Rocks? (edit: or just straight up non-Nazi eugenics program coupled with "We Deserve the Best Because We are the Best. Hellfire! " kinda stuff)

    Though, it is interesting that if it is the Bloodline, that all three (Envy, Vamp, and Tansy) exhibit Esper abilities in addition to their other powers.
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  • One wonders if this might be part of the reason that Trevor becomes Ayla...


    Supposedly Trever became a mutant because he was tampered with. And it caused him to even have multiple bits.
    Though it could be that he was turning completely into a girl untill he was messed with. I blame Dr. Hammon. He did electrocute him and electricity is involved in BIT slicing.
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  • Katssun wrote: I think you're on to something here, I'm just not sure what.


    Hmmmm, could be...

    Katssun wrote: First off, we don't know Marissa's maiden name, do we? That's probably a huge hint.


    Marissa is a member of a very, VERY old money family of great respect and renown. The Family Seat as it were, is in Boston and that is Marissa's home town. How Old Money? Well, I don't want to give too much away, but Marissa's Great Great Grand father was a golfing buddy of John Jacob Astor...

    Katssun wrote: Secondly, her father is tied into some Illuminati style organizations.


    Is he? well, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...

    Katssun wrote: Third(ly), Tansy is like...really powerful. Hides how powerful she is powerful. Like, was Alpha Queen Bee because of manipulation, but actually probably deserved the title compared to anyone else at (or expelled by) the school.


    TV Tropes pointed out that Tansy is what Ayla could be turned to evil...

    Not that there's anything to that, just say'n.

    :evil:

    I won't comment on the speculation other than to congratulate you on how well thought out it is. Very compelling theory. Well played, truly, well played.


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  • E. E. Nalley wrote:

    Katssun wrote: Secondly, her father is tied into some Illuminati style organizations.


    Is he?


    Possibly. Supposedly. Allegedly. According to a third hand memory of Ayla's from years earlier, of an off-hand warning passed on by Paul (or Greg, I need to check) about something Bruce and Herb might have said, IIRC.

    OTOH, we do know that he's perfectly happy to use his daughter as a spy, even directing her to seduce, manipulate, and telepathically steal information from, even use mind control over members of competing families, for purposes that are not yet entirely clear - and in a way that sets her up for the fall if the story came out while letting him wash his hands of his horrible mutant offspring who surely isn't even really his because obviously his wife must have been cheating on him.

    I was not thinking of the Bloodline, per se, but something, equal and opposite - a group obsessed with maintaining purity at all costs, a group predating modern racist theories and Naziism by centuries. I had written a micro-scene which implied that both the Goodkinds and the Bloodline were splinters off of the Priory of Sion, but what if, instead, it were the Walcutts who were connected to them (or possibly all three having origins with it but going in different directions from each other and/or the main cult)? Of course, that's just one possibility, but my point was that he decided not to risk having more children until he found someone who he was certain was not going to have the meta-gene, while also fitting dynastic business and political uses.

    But why not go to the Goodkinds, then? Often the best way to neutralize a rivalry is for the rivals to make an alliance, right? Well, first off, there were no unmarried female family members who fit the bill - even Gracie would have been too young for much of the past ten years (and wouldn't have been suited for this sort of agreement anyway given that producing an 'untainted' heir was the primary goal), while the oldest of Bruce's genetic-female daughters, Heather, was still only twenty or so in 2006, so she would have been underage until recently, and besides, she shows little interest in family obligations. We know Herb has children, but nothing has been said about them, and there's been no mention of Theo having kids - chances are, their children are all even younger. Also, if they knew that Marissa was a mutant (or even just carried the MMGC), they would have been wary of any link to Tansy even if she had never manifested herself. Finally, it seems clear that the Goodkinds really distrust Theodore, to a degree that even keeping your enemies closer than your friends wouldn't justify making such a tie. They are already kin, if only distantly, but clearly, family ties mean very little in this world for all their talk of it being important.

    Furthermore, by the time Heather was old enough, Tansy had manifested - which means that Ted himself carried the MMGC (assuming that Tansy was his biological daughter - and you can bet that he would have had a paternity test done, regardless of anything else, as a matter of course even if he isn't particularly concerned with 'mutancy'; lineage is just that important to some families), which, if had any fear or hatred of mutants himself, means he probably resigned himself to never have any more children just on the off-chance that one of them might be a carrier.

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  • Those are very, very interesting thoughts, Schol. Very interesting indeed!

    Those, to toss a little bit of gasoline on the fire, I'll point out that Tansy is remarkably tall for a woman, she's 5'11". Just like her mother.

    Just say'n...

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  • THE WNBA IS AN ILLUMINATI PLOT!!!

    now, more seriously:

    I think the whole "watch out for Uncle Theo" among the Goodkinds may have another reason: I expect that he's a perv. Like, if he came out, he would be a shoo-in for NAMBLA president. The rest of the family covers up his perviness, because, well, they can't let it come out. But they don't trust him.

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  • Intervention wrote: As the fawn began to graze on the meadow grass, the doe stood alertly, her head snapping around as she listened, smelled, and looked for any possible danger. Then she bent down to take a bite of grass, returning to her heads-up scanning position as she chewed, ever alert to threats

    "Why do I have the feeling that something bad is going to happen?" Tansy asked cautiously of the great bird.

    "Bad?" said the bird. "No, this is going to be good. Very good. Deliciously good." With that, the golden eagle spread his mighty wings and launched himself from the branch, his piercing eyes never straying from the unsuspecting fawn.


    Intervention wrote: "I suppose this is what it'll be like someday when I have kids."

    Do you hear that sound on the wind? That is the sound of millions of parents crying out, "If only!"

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  • Sir Lee wrote: I think the whole "watch out for Uncle Theo" among the Goodkinds may have another reason: I expect that he's a perv. Like, if he came out, he would be a shoo-in for NAMBLA president. The rest of the family covers up his perviness, because, well, they can't let it come out. But they don't trust him.


    Theodore Walcutt != Theodore Goodkind, but I'm guessing that this was just some sort of brainfart on your part since you presumably would know that. The only reference to Theo was regarding the fact that it isn't known if he has children, and the whole warning issue never got mentioned AFAICT.

    [EDIT: Oh, I see what happened: I referred to 'Theodore' meaning Walcutt, but in a way that must have been more ambiguous than I thought it would be. My bad, sorry for that.]

    And, well, that's already the most common working theory about Theo Goodkind. Whether there's any connection with Ted Walcutt isn't clear, but since the families don't seem to get along... probably not.

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  • Schol-R-LEA wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: I think the whole "watch out for Uncle Theo" among the Goodkinds may have another reason: I expect that he's a perv. Like, if he came out, he would be a shoo-in for NAMBLA president. The rest of the family covers up his perviness, because, well, they can't let it come out. But they don't trust him.


    Theodore Walcutt != Theodore Goodkind, but I'm guessing that this was just some sort of brainfart on your part since you presumably would know that. The only reference to Theo was regarding the fact that it isn't known if he has children, and the whole warning issue never got mentioned AFAICT.

    [EDIT: Oh, I see what happened: I referred to 'Theodore' meaning Walcutt, but in a way that must have been more ambiguous than I thought it would be. My bad, sorry for that.]

    And, well, that's already the most common working theory about Theo Goodkind. Whether there's any connection with Ted Walcutt isn't clear, but since the families don't seem to get along... probably not.


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  • I just wanted to mention that in The Late Great Trevor Goodkind Trevor says that Tansy's father's name is Darryl. I know, I know with a universe this size it is hard to keep character names straight across several stories at least!
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  • Anne wrote: I just wanted to mention that in The Late Great Trevor Goodkind Trevor says that Tansy's father's name is Darryl. I know, I know with a universe this size it is hard to keep character names straight across several stories at least!


    Actually his name is Theodore Darryl Walcutt the fifth. The Goodkinds call him Darryl despite knowing he prefers Theodore or Theo is because they think it sounds low class and because it irritates him.

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  • Oh! Well now, I see that the rivalry doesn't actually start with Connie and Heather...
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  • Anne wrote: Oh! Well now, I see that the rivalry doesn't actually start with Connie and Heather...


    This is exactly how feuds like this are passed from generation to generation. These are both 'Old Money' families, so the normal who is older becomes crass. (That and being related to a Declaration of Independence signer gives you major 'Old Money street cred). Old Money doesn't brag about who is richer because, gauche. But my kid besting your kid? Well, you must have defective genes, old boy and look how deep THAT rabbit hole goes in both these families...

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