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Question Intervention
- Katssun
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So just starting off, Kayda, once again, incapable of keeping her mouth shut when confronted, blurts out what's been happening underneath vehicles in the garage. Some things never change.
Tansy's memories are gross. No wonder she has issues. A 4 year old, who is fully aware her nanny is doing things with her father? Abandonment issues, and the niggling realization that something is very, very wrong? Then everything she enjoys (except the horse) gets ripped away from her just because she doesn't do it "perfectly"? I'm not even sure what to feel. Disgust? Anger? Pity?
I hope we'll be seeing her apologizing to and making peace with Jadis soon. Tansy seems to have forgotten how close they were, even though she betrayed her once they got to Whateley. Jadis is at least, fairly forgiving to those who admit their faults, and I'm sure she'd like another literary sparring partner on the fixer patio.
So...if Tansy needed a person to defend her physically, and also defend her spiritually on her vision quest...how reckless was Kayda when she did hers totally solo?
- elrodw
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- Katssun
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Can't wait for the boat race!
- Rose Bunny
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- Malady
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Ayla was teased as being girly... Now he's half-girl, sorta. Coincidence?
I can't trust Wakan Tanka. She has plans and stuff. The Vision Quest, I think was just another thing to get hooks into Tansy so she'd stick with Kayda.
Not that it didn't help Tansy, but we don't know that Tansy 'would' have crashed and burned. We just have guesses? ... How was she being self-destructive? ... Also WT is feeding Tansy the answers for her vision quest...
... Why didn't she have to pee during the ~6hr bit before getting to the lodge?!?! ... And then she has to pee at the lodge a little while after. Magic isn't working so well? ... Why??
Tansy could feel the pain in Miss Holster's mind and her mother's growing concern.
What. Was even her young self an psi?? Or was it Dream Magic? Or what??
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Why is her mother being moved to Arkham? Isn't that for mutants only? Or general psych as well?? What does her father have to say about this??
So, her mother broke down from the loss? Or something else??
- Katssun
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Extremely suspicious about Ayla. He frequently mentions Tansy's bullying as being somewhat formative. Was she eroding his confidence the same way her desire to not be ugly influenced her BIT?Malady wrote: Ayla was teased as being girly... Now he's half-girl, sorta. Coincidence?
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Not that it didn't help Tansy, but we don't know that Tansy 'would' have crashed and burned. We just have guesses? ... How was she being self-destructive?
Maybe we'll see some of her self-destructive behavior in Danny's stories. Or maybe a lot of it is simply her guilt eating her from the inside.
And I don't care what the spirits say to try to justify it. Swans are assholes.
- E. E. Nalley
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Katssun wrote: Let's talk about Tansy's trauma!
I hope we'll be seeing her apologizing to and making peace with Jadis soon. Tansy seems to have forgotten how close they were, even though she betrayed her once they got to Whateley. Jadis is at least, fairly forgiving to those who admit their faults, and I'm sure she'd like another literary sparring partner on the fixer patio.
Seeing soon? That's up to Kristin. But it's already written...

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
Thomas Jefferson, to Archibald Stuart, 1791
- cprime
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The second scenario is more interesting. Tansy's father blamed her mother for passing the metagene complex onto her daughter. Let us assume this is true. More so, let us theorize that not only did Marissa posses the metagene complex, it was actually active for her. We can guess that she might have had a mental package, similar to her daughter. If she burned out during the accident trying to save her friend, it could have left her with mental damage that wouldn't have shown on an MRI. ARC would be uniquely qualified to handle this type of injury.
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Intervention comments
Wakan Tanka yanking Kayda into dream space and telling Kayda what she needs to hear, take Tansy on a vision quest. A vision quest over the weekend until around Monday morning, and Hartford and Carson are agreeing to all Kayda's request. This is very serious, though after what she did to that one bully I can see why.
Oh boy, seeing Kayda and Lanie in those outfits with Mrs. Selkirk and Mrs. Nelson standing on either side of them, I would be worried. Bound her hands with a leather thong, and Tansy's bad joke almost doesn't get a response. A black mask for a blindfold, and Tansy calls out to Mustang to find out what they are doing, being told it is a vision quest, Hembleciya. And ouch, they talk to Mustang and it is a sacred thing so he can't talk to her again until her vision quest is concluded.
Lanie and Kayda won't talk, part of the ritual, oh boy. And she still thinks it is a joke, trying to lighten the mood, only to be met with silence once more. 20 minutes of travel like that to confuse her as to where she is, tries to find her friends emotions and is met with a sort-of psychic white-noise, yikes. All that and a sense of abandonment, it is going to get bad before it gets better, isn't it.
A silence spell and a shield to keep her from sensing their thoughts, Kayda thought of everything. Sweat lodge tomorrow and Lanie just has to be silly about it.

Ouch, fear like that due to no way of knowing how much time had passed, no reference to frame time, scary. Oh boy, starting to turn to mild distrust of Kayda and her ritual, not good.
What the what! Kayda says Tansy has to have that set of feelings fresh in her mind when they get into her visions. Show Tansy how her feelings change, all this so she can begin to unravel her current negative, subconscious behavior, intense. Risking Tansy having lingering resentment towards her to help save her, only a true friend.
After that night only to find out there is more to come, I understand how Tansy feels. Lanie and Kayda telling Tansy how far she is going, plus Louis showing up and pointing more things out, having to confront her subconscious thoughts. Her hidden feelings driving her in ways she isn't consciously aware of.
In the sweat lodge and Kayda getting a good look at Tansy for the first time.
Hit with Tansy's looks, poor girl is lucky she didn't blush even brighter. And Tansy and Lanie teasing Kayda about flaunting her body, these 3 have too much fun together. Kayda trying to get the ritual along and right into a kiss from Tansy as she is talking, oh boy. And least she finally gets the ritual underway."You like what you see?" Lanie asked with a smirk. She had seen Kayda staring a bit.
And now the special tea for Tansy, with Lanie and Kayda there to protect her while she is in a dream-like trance.
Bwahahaha. Kayda in her dream space, while Lanie watches over her and keeps her hydrated, this is a really in-depth ritual."So now we have a little fun while she's dreaming?" Lanie said suggestively, waggling her eyebrows.
The dream space is a grayish-white world without boundaries or features of any kind, that would freak me out. A golden eagle there to help guide her.
Her dreams, her fears, her hopes, what she loves, what she hates. That's a lot for someone to take in.This is your hembleciya," the eagle said, and if eagles could grin, it was grinning at what it it considered a silly question. "Of course I know you. The question is, do you know yourself? Or is that why you're here?"
Left alone like that at 4 years old, that is criminal neglect. No wonder she has fear of abandonment, with people like that in her life treating a little girl this way. Resentment of her father and nanny, but not her mother, as she at least hugs her occasionally. The adults around her were twisted from that early age, it is a wonder Tansy didn't turn out even worse than she did.
That scene with the little piglet, all to determine what she thinks it means.
"Great," Tansy snorted unhappily. "My vision quest is a jigsaw puzzle."
The time Connie Goodkind tormented her with cruel names, and using an implied threat to get Tansy to lie, ugh. Forced to apologize and then tormented more by the bully, I would have wanted to get back at her somehow.
At least Kayda will be able to help her sort out what all the visions and memories mean if needed. A hummingbird flitting about from flower to flower, showing off its flying prowess as it does so. Then a peacock shows up and hides the hummingbird from view with its plumage, no matter where it moves. Now bees harass the poor hummingbird and force it to fly off, all metaphor and imagery. And once again no answer from the eagle, she has to figure out what it means to her.
Several hours in the trance now, Tansy comes out of it a little and Lanie gives her some water. And has to help her go pee, despite what Kayda said about her not needing to go due to the rituals so far. At least Lanie is taking it well, thinking this is what it will be like when she has kids someday.
Tansy memory of a time in Kahului Yacht Club protected race area, in a yacht race and annoyed at having to wear a life vest due to being a strong swimmer. Admiral's Cup and hoping her mom would be there this time, poor kid. And Connie Goodkind being a royal B once again. Big gamble by a little Tansy which pays off, 4 boat length lead, father tells her it is all about winning. And Connie cheats, while blocked from view by Tansy's sail she uses her boat hook to snag Tansy's trapeze line, causing the boat to be knocked over and Tansy to fall into the water, grrr, can't stand that girl. Didn't want to win, just wanted Tansy to lose, how petty.
Her father talking to her like that, not paying sailing lessons anymore, all just because she isn't winning. And listening to his new wife, over his own daughter, Theodore Walcutt needs a good hit upside the head to knock some sense into him. And manipulating him like that, have Tansy stay home for the summer, just because they are on their honeymoon, ugh. And he only cares if she wins, not if it is fun, really can't stand him.
Two otters playing tag, and Tansy wonders why, thinking they should be looking for food or something. She thinks all an animal does is mate and eat, what a sad life that would be. Tansy thinks life is survival of the fittest, kill or be killed, at least she ask if that is what it is.
Resting in a European castle, perfect for Tansy and her ancestry. Ouch, no food for Kayda either while Tansy is on the vision quest. A lot of issues to go through, that is an understatement. Rough time ahead, it hasn't already been rough, oh boy.
Westchester Montessori, and seeing what she looked like when she was younger is painful for Tansy. 4th grade and another girl with her, the description of that young boy, it can be no other than Trevor Goodkind. What, Tansy went over to say hi to Trevor, even though she hates Connie and Heather, his older sisters. A fake fall to slam into him, ouch, tormenting the younger brother for the sins of his older sisters.
Learned those skills by watching Connie and Heather, she has suffered like this for years, yet she subjects someone else to it just due to who they are related to. Tansy was already on the wrong path before she manifested. Bullied becoming the bully. At least current Tansy watched in disgust and horror, crying at the cruelty her younger self displayed.
Calling Trevor not a real boy, a sissy, just because he is small for his age, asking if he is a boy or a girl pretending to be a boy and to go put on a skirt. Even making sure the adults aren't watching, doing all this to get a reaction out of Trevor. Going to call him Trixie or Traci, called Trixie by Tansy, while current Tansy is made to watch. This is her vision quest, these memories are important to her for some reason, she needs understand why.
Taking a folder out of Trevor's backpack and putting it there, taking his homework and hiding it so he would get in trouble, she became what she hated that young. And the cleaning woman putting the homework in the folder on the teacher's desk, doesn't help he was scolded twice about it. Having to see what she did, painful for how she wishes to be now to watch.
A doe and her fawn grazing in a field, cute. Smart you can shape the events around you, her father is arrogant to believe that. A wolf suddenly chasing them but the doe and fawn have already bolted for the woods. Drawn towards the qualities of femininity and grace in the doe, yet the eagle says that when someone dreams of a deer, it means they are having difficulty accepting their female side, ouch.
Franklin Academy after the Diabliku kids being outed. Young Tansy planting stuff a bundle in Trevor's briefcase. Slipping from the bathroom into the crowd of kids to cover for herself. And she makes the contents of his briefcase spill out, a uniform skirt, ugh. And Young Tansy using that to teasing him about being a girl or just a sissy even more. She couldn't see how she became like those she hated, because it was a relative of her own bullies she was picking on she justified it to herself.
And now we jump to a point where Young Tansy manifested just 2 weeks ago from the sounds of it, taller, trimmer and more attractive in her own eyes. At Liliuokalani Academy for Girls and debutante match in polo, she calls her father daddy and he says she isn't a little girl anymore and will address him in an adult manner, ugh, let kids be kids! Afraid of being outed as having a mutant daughter, he cares more what it would do to his reputation than what would happen to Tansy.
Tango 2 years old then and her secret weapon in this match. And Brenda, just how many trophy wives has he gone through now, tries to act like she is really Tansy's mom, Tansy won't have that. And despite what Tansy said, raising her hand to strike her shows Brenda has a temper she needs to control. Heather got a modeling job in New York, while Connie twisted her ankle and is in the reviewing box, darn. A check from Bruce Goodkind being given to her father, he actually bet on the game, when they find out Tansy is a mutant it is going to cause a lot of trouble. And Tansy takes away that winning is everything.
And now we move to watching a little brown rabbit, as the eagle explains how the rabbit is humble, preys on nothing, but everything preys on it. Humble-of color, of noise, of movement, interesting. And Tansy takes away from this that her daddy was right, the meek don't inherit anything. Bad thing to take away from that.
Wendy, forth or fifth wife of Tansy's father, and ouch, can feel the chill radiating between those two. Anger and envy at a father wishing to talk with his daughter alone, Wendy has issues. Finding out she is a mutant and is getting prettier and thinner because of it, upset it isn't due to her diet and exercise. And those emotions and thoughts from her father on all those matters, what a self centered D-bag. 13 and being told to think of a nanny as an au pair personal assistant, oh brother. And already going to replace Wendy with the nanny who he has been cheating on her with, no shame at all, this man. And that vow to be useful to her father, that messed her up even more.
Guided tour like 'This is Your Life', that would just be silly.

"The swan represents the power and understanding of self, including developing spiritual and intuitive abilities. And the swan is graceful in dealing with others."
Tansy thinking she is still a bitch, that she is being tormented by eagle instead of being aided with these memories. Understand who you were, who you are, and who you wish to be. Tall order. All those girls defending each other, this memory seems to be before Jadis and Mal got out outed. Arguing over poetry and Walt Whitman, definitely not normal little kids with those discussions. If only they could have remained friends, or renewed their friendship at Whateley. All those happy memories with Jadis, if they hadn't been outed I wonder how differently Tansy and Jadis might have turned out, especially Tansy.
Teaching Jadis how to ride horses, despite Jadis falling off the gelding 3 times now, ouch. The beginning of a good friendship, proof she wasn't so self-centered. Nice to see happy memories, never knew this about her and Jadis.
Oh boy, she was happy to see Jadis when they reunited at Whateley, but reacted badly to the devil bound inside Jadis. Freya and Maria aka Songbird when she was student, and Tansy denies Jadis was ever her friend, betraying her completely and outing Jadis and Dr. Diabolik's daughter, ouch. Tansy realizes she turned into those she hated and threw Jadis to the wolves, one of her most painful memories.
Someone had to say it to her. And thinking she is the monster her father, Heather, Connie, and Freya made her to be. You can't be a monster and feel this kind of guilt. And all this leads back to her blaming herself for not saving her mother, that her mother is sick because of her, ouch, right in the heart with that one.Who in moments of weakness give in to your frail, human nature because no one in your life showed you how to be a decent person! And even without that guidance, here you are trying to teach yourself! Why don't you give yourself the credit you deserve for recognizing your mistakes and seeking to make restitution for them?"
And eagle takes her to see what is not her fault. Office of Marissa Walcutt, Assistant District Attorney. And Tansy tries to talk to her, asking if mommy can see her, painful to watch. Amy working too hard, told my Marissa she is going to work herself to death, tempting her with a healthy dinner at her place. All those cases behind, yikes, that is a ton of work. Sorority sister and best friend of Marissa and she's not leaving her there the whole weekend. Amy is Tansy's godmother and Marissa wants her to see more of her daughter.
Amy drove so they take her car, Tansy watching them drive along in New York with almost no traffic. Amy has a heart attack while driving, while Marissa tries to take control but Amy's leg is pinned against the accelerator and the car picked up speed. Yanking at the hand break but they were going too fast and went into a skid. Losing her best friend like that, plus injury in the accident.
Tansy in the a hospital room, her mother's head wrapped in bandage with a bloody spot over the right temple. 5 years old and this happened to her mom, Young Tansy sent out with her nanny while Marissa finds out Amy died from the heart attack, losing her best friend and vowing not to leave her husband and Tansy, that she stay healthy. Leaving current Tansy calling for Lanie and Kayda, asking for help to understand, darn it, got me tearing up and wanting to hug her.
Calling for help to understand, no one appears until Tansy thinks Kayda did, looking like Kayda yet not. Ptesanwi helps to explain all her memories and the spirit animals. The jackal represents someone who should have been close to her, but whose lessons have been damaging to her, her father. Ouch, not loved by her father, painful to admit to herself. The hummingbird and the otter, playful yet other animals didn't let them play. Peacock like Connie and Heather to her, the bees represent work, her dad's work never letting her play, the alligator like her father interrupted things when Tansy was trying to have fun. Those earlier scenes are making a lot more sense now.
She has to learn how to have fun, deer represents femininity, what happened to the deer is like her father whoring her out to advance his business, stealing her innocence. Never having community because her father taught her to use people, to prey on others. And she thinks she is like the swan, attacking viciously to protect her territory. Still learning and can choose what she wants to be, a good lesson for anyone.
This is part of the vision quest - not to tell you a pre-ordained path, but to help you find a path of your own choosing."
Interesting detail about the elk, her being told about how the badger acts in defense. Her way of life making Tansy not understand the natural order, like Tatanka the buffalo does.
Learn from any of the animal spirits she wishes to observe, now that is special. Awww, she wants to learn from so many of them and is afraid of having to choose. Kayda helping her, as part of her role as a shaman and be glad to help her, as that part of friendship, awww again."Can we," Tansy asked hesitantly, "can we...go see the hummingbird again? Please?"
It was some than Kayda's vision quest in some ways, and she can't talk about it with Lanie, kind of a doctor-patient confidentiality. Intense seems like an inadequate word to cover what Tansy just went through. Tansy happy for help understanding all that, plus Kayda assures her she isn't allowed to talk to anyone but the dreamer about the dreams and visions. It has to be Tansy's choice to share with others. The longhouse for dinner to finish the ceremony, good, bet Tansy's stomach can growl loud enough to wake a bear from 60 feet at this point. Monday morning just after sunrise, that took a lot longer than it felt.
That sounds ominous, I'm guessing it has to do with her father."Now? Now I'm going to do something that I deserve but never did. I'm going to have fun!" Tansy told her friends with a tired smile, then became serious. "But first, I know now what I have to do. And I'll need Ms. Hartford's help to do it," she said grimly.
And Tansy's mom transfered to Arkham Research Consortium up in New Hampshire, is this what Tansy did with Ms. Hartford's help. Wonder if she can get the help she needs finally, instead of being treated as a burden by those who take care of her.
And this story had a lot of intense moments, that is a lot of stuff we didn't know about Tansy and even seeing how her mother became the way she did due to losing her best friend that way. Glad she is on the path to true healing and choosing who she wants to be, not shaped by the likes of her bullies and her father. The only other story that had this much painful and intense moments packed into one piece was Would the Last One Out Please Turn Off the Lights. Now I just want to see how Tansy changes due to this and what she is going to do that needs to be done.
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- Esar
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She has already apologized to Ayla, we will have to see for Jadis. But I hope it will go further than that. She needs friends and they have a lot of things in common. Of course I don't know how realistic it would be because it's not like going from tormentor to best friends is something really common (but not impossible).
I assume this is the story you were talking about when you asked the community to search for Tansy/Jadis/Ayla's schools they went to ?
Thank you.
- mhalpern
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Malady wrote: Tansy's childhood was terrible, mostly. There were some bright spots though. Yes...
Ayla was teased as being girly... Now he's half-girl, sorta. Coincidence?
I can't trust Wakan Tanka. She has plans and stuff. The Vision Quest, I think was just another thing to get hooks into Tansy so she'd stick with Kayda.
Not that it didn't help Tansy, but we don't know that Tansy 'would' have crashed and burned. We just have guesses? ... How was she being self-destructive? ... Also WT is feeding Tansy the answers for her vision quest...
... Why didn't she have to pee during the ~6hr bit before getting to the lodge?!?! ... And then she has to pee at the lodge a little while after. Magic isn't working so well? ... Why??
Tansy could feel the pain in Miss Holster's mind and her mother's growing concern.
What. Was even her young self an psi?? Or was it Dream Magic? Or what??
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Why is her mother being moved to Arkham? Isn't that for mutants only? Or general psych as well?? What does her father have to say about this??
So, her mother broke down from the loss? Or something else??
Ayla also looked up to his mother as the "overcoming adversity" role model, as for Arkham, probably General psych as well, for one thing they need a place for the interns, and while there are facilities all over the country, there isn't exactly a surplus of people trained to handle headcases, and fewer that are willing to handle committed or incarcerated headcases, you send them to whomever is equipped and has room. They aren't allowed to be picky in whom they get, besides its money.
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- mhalpern
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I am keeping this separate because it has little to do with my last post,
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If there are mutant factors involved, she at least is (finally) at one of the best places in the country to help her deal with the fallout. Even if it is 10 years after the fact.
Is it bad that I could see Tansy taking a left turn in her career path and going into the counseling field?
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Well, not me, I wrote it, but others! Others will be surprised!!

As for the metagene complex, I will say that is is resident in the X chromosome. So if you are female, you could have gotten it from either parent, but if male, it was your mother that gave it to you.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
Thomas Jefferson, to Archibald Stuart, 1791
- mhalpern
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"Walcott and Morgan: counseling that can take a beating"cprime wrote:
Is it bad that I could see Tansy taking a left turn in her career path and going into the counseling field?
Well they'd have a niche...
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Esar wrote: She has already apologized to Ayla, we will have to see for Jadis. But I hope it will go further than that. She needs friends and they have a lot of things in common. Of course I don't know how realistic it would be because it's not like going from tormentor to best friends is something really common (but not impossible).
They're still only in high school, and Jadis at least intellectually recogizes that expecting anything other than Total Drama from teenaged exemplars is an exercise in wishful thinking. There's still time for them to get over prior nonsense, maybe even a little sexual healing

The flashbacks to Trevor - on the surface we can see how Tansy helped make his life miserable - but we also see that he's also been stuck trying to be the best little boy in the world for a family that (with a few exceptions) saw him as another thing to be "fixed" or discarded.
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null0trooper wrote:
Esar wrote: She has already apologized to Ayla, we will have to see for Jadis. But I hope it will go further than that. She needs friends and they have a lot of things in common. Of course I don't know how realistic it would be because it's not like going from tormentor to best friends is something really common (but not impossible).
They're still only in high school, and Jadis at least intellectually recogizes that expecting anything other than Total Drama from teenaged exemplars is an exercise in wishful thinking. There's still time for them to get over prior nonsense, maybe even a little sexual healing
The flashbacks to Trevor - on the surface we can see how Tansy helped make his life miserable - but we also see that he's also been stuck trying to be the best little boy in the world for a family that (with a few exceptions) saw him as another thing to be "fixed" or discarded.
We also see the classic makings of an introvert, out of any of the Goodkind kids, Trevor was the least likely to notice someone acting suspicious AND speak up about it.
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"Because I'm just a monster!"
I... I think I meed to set this aside for a while after this line. At least until my eyes are so filled with tears.
Of course, the difference between when she says this, and when I do, is that's she's wrong about it.
Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
- Schol-R-LEA
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Right.
Anyway, the last section makes me wonder if Tansy found a skeleton in her family closet, or perhaps her family gene pool. Something tells me that the reason for her mother's incarceration - not commitment, but imprisonment - might not be anything to do with drinking, nor with that accident. And now I am wondering just why Mr. Walcutt married her, why he set her aside, and most of all given his reaction to his own child's manifestation, if he had in his own mind cause to be disgusted with Tansy that had nothing to do with her weight.
I suspect that her being an only child might not be an accident. My guess is that he only married Marissa for some family reason - either her own inheritance, or some family alliance, or even just the need for an heir - but then discovered, far too late, that she was, shall we say, tainted his eyes. Since all of his later wives were basic trophy types, ones he knew he'd set aside as soon as they started becoming a nuisance or lost their sheen, he never tried to have any children with them... and for some reason, never saw fit to make some other dynastic connection, for reasons which concerned him both personally and in terms of business.
And if perhaps he has some information regarding the imbalanced rates of manifestation. Information which some people - like Bruce Goodkind - would literally kill to possess, or suppress.
Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
- Malady
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If you are so irredeemable and beyond help, why do you take this vision quest? Why try to better yourself?
... Uh... Tansy isn't doing this because 'she' wants to, she's sorta forced into it, by Kayda...
It's not like she could leave...
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Malady wrote:
If you are so irredeemable and beyond help, why do you take this vision quest? Why try to better yourself?
... Uh... Tansy isn't doing this because 'she' wants to, she's sorta forced into it, by Kayda...
It's not like she could leave...
Ummmm - No.
It was the administration that indicated that Tansy needed something. They were going to intervene in one way or another eventually - possibly when it was too late for Tansy to stay at Whateley.
Kayda and Lanie offered a way to do an intervention before such a thing happened. And we didn't see every little bit of dialog - the author's unstated fact is that there's some pre-conversation before the ball started rolling, a very brief text from Hindmost - so it wasn't totally a surprise. Only the details of WHAT happened were surprises to Tansy.
Never give up, Never surrender! Captain Peter Quincy Taggert
- Hardric
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- E. E. Nalley
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Hardric wrote: Oookay, I think it's now pretty clear that Tansy never had a ghost of a chance of being someone really decent after this.
Well, keep in mind despite how bad things were for Tansy, as you can see in our portrayal of her, some part of her knew she was doing wrong. The best example being the conversation she had with Freya, note how hesitant she is. She knows what kind of person Freya is, she's a psychic after all, but she gives into her fear and betrays arguably the one friend she's ever had.
She is genuinely trying to change, but this is her bed, she made it. And she's smart enough to realize it.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
Thomas Jefferson, to Archibald Stuart, 1791
- joreymay
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Malady wrote:
Tansy could feel the pain in Miss Holster's mind and her mother's growing concern.
What. Was even her young self an psi?? Or was it Dream Magic? Or what??
Young Tansy wasn't there. Eagle allowed older Tansy's dream self to observe that bit of history and the perceptive part of her power set was part of that observation. You could choose to call that Dream Magic.
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I think you're on to something here, I'm just not sure what.Schol-R-LEA wrote: I suspect that her being an only child might not be an accident. My guess is that he only married Marissa for some family reason - either her own inheritance, or some family alliance, or even just the need for an heir - but then discovered, far too late, that she was, shall we say, tainted his eyes. Since all of his later wives were basic trophy types, ones he knew he'd set aside as soon as they started becoming a nuisance or lost their sheen, he never tried to have any children with them... and for some reason, never saw fit to make some other dynastic connection, for reasons which concerned him both personally and in terms of business.
And if perhaps he has some information regarding the imbalanced rates of manifestation. Information which some people - like Bruce Goodkind - would literally kill to possess, or suppress.
First off, we don't know Marissa's maiden name, do we? That's probably a huge hint.
Secondly, her father is tied into some Illuminati style organizations.
Third(ly), Tansy is like...really powerful. Hides how powerful she is powerful. Like, was Alpha Queen Bee because of manipulation, but actually probably deserved the title compared to anyone else at (or expelled by) the school.
Fourth, Hartford wants her in on the SMI2LE initiatives. Maybe not just because they mirror each other (though Hartford's abilities are also not exactly well described in detail or scope...), but also because Tansy is already a goal partially achieved?
I don't want to say Bloodline, because I think that might be too obvious, but if it isn't the Bloodline, it is some more...Ayn Randian Illuminati copy of the Bloodline goal. An evil Shadow Cabal version of Evolution Rocks? (edit: or just straight up non-Nazi eugenics program coupled with "We Deserve the Best Because We are the Best. Hellfire! " kinda stuff)
Though, it is interesting that if it is the Bloodline, that all three (Envy, Vamp, and Tansy) exhibit Esper abilities in addition to their other powers.
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One wonders if this might be part of the reason that Trevor becomes Ayla...
Supposedly Trever became a mutant because he was tampered with. And it caused him to even have multiple bits.
Though it could be that he was turning completely into a girl untill he was messed with. I blame Dr. Hammon. He did electrocute him and electricity is involved in BIT slicing.
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Katssun wrote: I think you're on to something here, I'm just not sure what.
Hmmmm, could be...
Katssun wrote: First off, we don't know Marissa's maiden name, do we? That's probably a huge hint.
Marissa is a member of a very, VERY old money family of great respect and renown. The Family Seat as it were, is in Boston and that is Marissa's home town. How Old Money? Well, I don't want to give too much away, but Marissa's Great Great Grand father was a golfing buddy of John Jacob Astor...
Katssun wrote: Secondly, her father is tied into some Illuminati style organizations.
Is he? well, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition...
Katssun wrote: Third(ly), Tansy is like...really powerful. Hides how powerful she is powerful. Like, was Alpha Queen Bee because of manipulation, but actually probably deserved the title compared to anyone else at (or expelled by) the school.
TV Tropes pointed out that Tansy is what Ayla could be turned to evil...
Not that there's anything to that, just say'n.

I won't comment on the speculation other than to congratulate you on how well thought out it is. Very compelling theory. Well played, truly, well played.
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E. E. Nalley wrote:
Katssun wrote: Secondly, her father is tied into some Illuminati style organizations.
Is he?
Possibly. Supposedly. Allegedly. According to a third hand memory of Ayla's from years earlier, of an off-hand warning passed on by Paul (or Greg, I need to check) about something Bruce and Herb might have said, IIRC.
OTOH, we do know that he's perfectly happy to use his daughter as a spy, even directing her to seduce, manipulate, and telepathically steal information from, even use mind control over members of competing families, for purposes that are not yet entirely clear - and in a way that sets her up for the fall if the story came out while letting him wash his hands of his horrible mutant offspring who surely isn't even really his because obviously his wife must have been cheating on him.
I was not thinking of the Bloodline, per se, but something, equal and opposite - a group obsessed with maintaining purity at all costs, a group predating modern racist theories and Naziism by centuries. I had written a micro-scene which implied that both the Goodkinds and the Bloodline were splinters off of the Priory of Sion, but what if, instead, it were the Walcutts who were connected to them (or possibly all three having origins with it but going in different directions from each other and/or the main cult)? Of course, that's just one possibility, but my point was that he decided not to risk having more children until he found someone who he was certain was not going to have the meta-gene, while also fitting dynastic business and political uses.
But why not go to the Goodkinds, then? Often the best way to neutralize a rivalry is for the rivals to make an alliance, right? Well, first off, there were no unmarried female family members who fit the bill - even Gracie would have been too young for much of the past ten years (and wouldn't have been suited for this sort of agreement anyway given that producing an 'untainted' heir was the primary goal), while the oldest of Bruce's genetic-female daughters, Heather, was still only twenty or so in 2006, so she would have been underage until recently, and besides, she shows little interest in family obligations. We know Herb has children, but nothing has been said about them, and there's been no mention of Theo having kids - chances are, their children are all even younger. Also, if they knew that Marissa was a mutant (or even just carried the MMGC), they would have been wary of any link to Tansy even if she had never manifested herself. Finally, it seems clear that the Goodkinds really distrust Theodore, to a degree that even keeping your enemies closer than your friends wouldn't justify making such a tie. They are already kin, if only distantly, but clearly, family ties mean very little in this world for all their talk of it being important.
Furthermore, by the time Heather was old enough, Tansy had manifested - which means that Ted himself carried the MMGC (assuming that Tansy was his biological daughter - and you can bet that he would have had a paternity test done, regardless of anything else, as a matter of course even if he isn't particularly concerned with 'mutancy'; lineage is just that important to some families), which, if had any fear or hatred of mutants himself, means he probably resigned himself to never have any more children just on the off-chance that one of them might be a carrier.
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Those, to toss a little bit of gasoline on the fire, I'll point out that Tansy is remarkably tall for a woman, she's 5'11". Just like her mother.
Just say'n...

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
Thomas Jefferson, to Archibald Stuart, 1791
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now, more seriously:
I think the whole "watch out for Uncle Theo" among the Goodkinds may have another reason: I expect that he's a perv. Like, if he came out, he would be a shoo-in for NAMBLA president. The rest of the family covers up his perviness, because, well, they can't let it come out. But they don't trust him.
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"Bad?" said the bird. "No, this is going to be good. Very good. Deliciously good." With that, the golden eagle spread his mighty wings and launched himself from the branch, his piercing eyes never straying from the unsuspecting fawn.Intervention wrote: As the fawn began to graze on the meadow grass, the doe stood alertly, her head snapping around as she listened, smelled, and looked for any possible danger. Then she bent down to take a bite of grass, returning to her heads-up scanning position as she chewed, ever alert to threats
"Why do I have the feeling that something bad is going to happen?" Tansy asked cautiously of the great bird.
Do you hear that sound on the wind? That is the sound of millions of parents crying out, "If only!"Intervention wrote: "I suppose this is what it'll be like someday when I have kids."
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Sir Lee wrote: I think the whole "watch out for Uncle Theo" among the Goodkinds may have another reason: I expect that he's a perv. Like, if he came out, he would be a shoo-in for NAMBLA president. The rest of the family covers up his perviness, because, well, they can't let it come out. But they don't trust him.
Theodore Walcutt != Theodore Goodkind, but I'm guessing that this was just some sort of brainfart on your part since you presumably would know that. The only reference to Theo was regarding the fact that it isn't known if he has children, and the whole warning issue never got mentioned AFAICT.
[EDIT: Oh, I see what happened: I referred to 'Theodore' meaning Walcutt, but in a way that must have been more ambiguous than I thought it would be. My bad, sorry for that.]
And, well, that's already the most common working theory about Theo Goodkind. Whether there's any connection with Ted Walcutt isn't clear, but since the families don't seem to get along... probably not.
Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
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Schol-R-LEA wrote:
Sir Lee wrote: I think the whole "watch out for Uncle Theo" among the Goodkinds may have another reason: I expect that he's a perv. Like, if he came out, he would be a shoo-in for NAMBLA president. The rest of the family covers up his perviness, because, well, they can't let it come out. But they don't trust him.
Theodore Walcutt != Theodore Goodkind, but I'm guessing that this was just some sort of brainfart on your part since you presumably would know that. The only reference to Theo was regarding the fact that it isn't known if he has children, and the whole warning issue never got mentioned AFAICT.
[EDIT: Oh, I see what happened: I referred to 'Theodore' meaning Walcutt, but in a way that must have been more ambiguous than I thought it would be. My bad, sorry for that.]
And, well, that's already the most common working theory about Theo Goodkind. Whether there's any connection with Ted Walcutt isn't clear, but since the families don't seem to get along... probably not.
I've never seen the two in the same room together...
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Anne wrote: I just wanted to mention that in The Late Great Trevor Goodkind Trevor says that Tansy's father's name is Darryl. I know, I know with a universe this size it is hard to keep character names straight across several stories at least!
Actually his name is Theodore Darryl Walcutt the fifth. The Goodkinds call him Darryl despite knowing he prefers Theodore or Theo is because they think it sounds low class and because it irritates him.
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Anne wrote: Oh! Well now, I see that the rivalry doesn't actually start with Connie and Heather...
This is exactly how feuds like this are passed from generation to generation. These are both 'Old Money' families, so the normal who is older becomes crass. (That and being related to a Declaration of Independence signer gives you major 'Old Money street cred). Old Money doesn't brag about who is richer because, gauche. But my kid besting your kid? Well, you must have defective genes, old boy and look how deep THAT rabbit hole goes in both these families...
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
Thomas Jefferson, to Archibald Stuart, 1791