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Question Hank 5 - To the New Year - feedback

7 years 10 months ago #1 by elrodw
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  • Have at it - especially all of you who were only so recently griping that you didn't see more Team Kimba :lol:

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    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #2 by Malady
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  • That ending! Lol!

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    "Galactic Healer"? Wut?

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    7 years 10 months ago #3 by Dreamer
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  • SPOILER ALERT
    Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.


    Hank 5: To the New Year! comments
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    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #4 by OtherEric
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  • Dreamer wrote: Can't wait to see what happens with Hank and {spoiler} in the future.


    Phoenix actually wound up writing much of Hank 6 before Hank 5, so you won't have to wait too long...
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  • OtherEric wrote:

    Dreamer wrote: Can't wait to see what happens with Hank and {spoiler} in the future.


    Phoenix actually wound up writing much of Hank 6 before Hank 5, so you won't have to wait too long...

    Yay! More Hank stories is always good.

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    7 years 10 months ago #6 by Dpragan
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  • I do have to say I was nearly at the point of Team Kimba, who are they? ;)

    Will wait a bit before I change the title of the JJ/Jessie Thread to reflect the code-name, people got all huffy last time I did it too soon.

    I might have missed it but I don't recall someone mentioning picturing the perfect Hearth-wife, but I imagine it might be the Hanna part of Hank wishing she was like Nikki.

    Oh dear....Little Nikki...is she snores and you hear millions of condemned souls wailing...

    In the end reality is only consensual! It means that Al Gore is causing "Global Warming" by his rhetoric alone! Fortunately, there are enough Global Warming "Deniers" still about to keep him from boiling the planet.

    =^+^=
    7 years 10 months ago #7 by Sir Lee
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  • I actually was sorta expecting that the hearthwife would turn out to look like Hannah, since she's supposed to be "part of Hank."

    Don't call me "Shirley." You will surely make me surly.
    7 years 10 months ago #8 by Dpragan
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  • Ditto...unless Hanna looked like Nikki...

    In the end reality is only consensual! It means that Al Gore is causing "Global Warming" by his rhetoric alone! Fortunately, there are enough Global Warming "Deniers" still about to keep him from boiling the planet.

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    7 years 10 months ago #9 by Valentine
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  • And exactly how many Sidhe has Hank had contact with? It was either going to be Nikki with the big "love me" aura or Whisper the often invisible and even more often stealthy one.

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  • Valentine wrote: And exactly how many Sidhe has Hank had contact with? It was either going to be Nikki with the big "love me" aura or Whisper the often invisible and even more often stealthy one.

    It was never going to be anything other than Nikki, codename: Fey.

    The perfect 'Fey wife', as it were. But the Lily clothes were a nice touch. This is going to be hilarious.

    Also, anybody else think that they need to get Nikki, Hank's Leanen, Jade's Christmas pixies, and Spoof's hobgoblins in a room together and have a photoshoot?

    :twisted:

    "Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
    7 years 10 months ago #11 by Rose Bunny
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  • I swear, with how much Nikki gets upset, Bunny's door needs an " In case of emergency- Break glass" sign.

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    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #12 by mhalpern
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  • "Ribbon," Ayla indicated what looked like a little girl in a gothic Lolita frilly dress sitting next to Amy. "Alyss Morgan, also fully changed. In addition to a high exemplar rating, she age regressed. She's nowhere near as young as she seems."


    I shouldn't surprise me that Ayla probably knows Alyss's real age, and he is respecting that very well, not even telling his friends.

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    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #13 by Malady
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  • He might also know her precise connection to Lady Havoc.

    ... So, all Leanan Sidhe-making spells are Bastard-tainted, right? Nikki didn't just spontaneously / randomly cast a Mythos-tainted spell or something?

    ... Also, how do you affect every caster's casting of a specific spell? ... I guess it's one of those super-magics like the Sun and Fun Precog Block...
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  • mhalpern wrote: It shouldn't surprise me that Ayla probably knows Alyss's real age, and he is respecting that very well, not even telling his friends.

    Probably until or unless Jade pushes Alyss a little too far.

    "Fuck off, Pardon my French... but for the 501st time, I do not want to join Wondercute"

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    7 years 10 months ago #15 by mhalpern
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  • Rose Bunny wrote:

    mhalpern wrote: It shouldn't surprise me that Ayla probably knows Alyss's real age, and he is respecting that very well, not even telling his friends.

    Probably until or unless Jade pushes Alyss a little too far.

    "Fuck off, Pardon my French... but for the 501st time, I do not want to join Wondercute"

    She isn't exactly doing much to resist them,

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    7 years 10 months ago #16 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote: Also, anybody else think that they need to get Nikki, Hank's Leanen, Jade's Christmas pixies, and Spoof's hobgoblins in a room together and have a photoshoot?


    I can't promise Spoof's hobgoblins.

    ...

    Nor pictures ...
    7 years 10 months ago #17 by Valentine
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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote:

    Valentine wrote: And exactly how many Sidhe has Hank had contact with? It was either going to be Nikki with the big "love me" aura or Whisper the often invisible and even more often stealthy one.

    It was never going to be anything other than Nikki, codename: Fey.

    The perfect 'Fey wife', as it were. But the Lily clothes were a nice touch. This is going to be hilarious.

    Also, anybody else think that they need to get Nikki, Hank's Leanen, Jade's Christmas pixies, and Spoof's hobgoblins in a room together and have a photoshoot?

    :twisted:


    You forgot Tink, and Absinthe's (fan fic) friends.

    Ayla did a fine job of detecting TG students around campus, except that he missed the 800 lb Raptor and 1000 lb snake in the room. And a few others.

    Very good story there Phoenix. I do have a question or two. Is Shawn's codename supposed to Teka, or Teke like it was in the fan fictions? What happened to Koehnes?

    I think you did a good job with all the Poesies and making them sound right.

    A few typos, Hank spends time in a "comma." Shroud is Shade at one point. And Fey's mom is Lucile instead of Lucinda at one point.

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    7 years 10 months ago #18 by NJM1564
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  • Valentine wrote: Ayla did a fine job of detecting TG students around campus, except that he missed the 800 lb Raptor and 1000 lb snake in the room. And a few others.


    Ah but they weren't in the room. Besides he was talking about freshmen.
    7 years 10 months ago #19 by Valentine
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  • NJM1564 wrote:

    Valentine wrote: Ayla did a fine job of detecting TG students around campus, except that he missed the 800 lb Raptor and 1000 lb snake in the room. And a few others.


    Ah but they weren't in the room. Besides he was talking about freshmen.


    He still missed the 4 GSD freshmen TGs.

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  • Valentine wrote:

    NJM1564 wrote:

    Valentine wrote: Ayla did a fine job of detecting TG students around campus, except that he missed the 800 lb Raptor and 1000 lb snake in the room. And a few others.


    Ah but they weren't in the room. Besides he was talking about freshmen.


    He still missed the 4 GSD freshmen TGs.


    Those were in Hawthorn weren't they. He was talking about Posies.
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  • Malady wrote: He might also know her precise connection to Lady Havoc.

    ... So, all Leanan Sidhe-making spells are Bastard-tainted, right? Nikki didn't just spontaneously / randomly cast a Mythos-tainted spell or something?

    ... Also, how do you affect every caster's casting of a specific spell? ... I guess it's one of those super-magics like the Sun and Fun Precog Block...


    Magic is based a lot around the law of repetition. A pastern etched into the fabric of the universe. Have enough power and you can scrub that pattern out and replace it. Or at least hunks of it.
    Not a super-magic effect the Precog block was like that do to having humans cast it. A powerfull enough being like the bastard wouldn't need to do anything so intricate. Just use massive amounts of power.
    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #22 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • Wyatt, Wyatt, Wyatt... both you and Nikki should know better by now, though I get that as upset as Fey was she wouldn't be thinking clearly.

    Carson is going to land on them like a ton of bricks when she hears about this - if she didn't sense it as it was happening, which I am pretty sure she would, and if she didn't, Circe, Grimes, or Caduceus probably would have. Oh, and Mrs. Horton, given that it was right there inside Poe and involved students she was monitoring.

    I am sure it would have been fine had they gone for help and guidance from her and the Mystic Arts department first, but seriously, after the mess with Pejuta and Loophole, how could they think that doing a major working like this without supervision wouldn't be noticed, or that they wouldn't be in trouble for it?

    And given past actions, I am guessing that the fact that it pretty much worked out OK will give Carson all the more reason to punish them, to remind them that it might have gone differently.

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  • Valentine wrote:

    NJM1564 wrote:

    Valentine wrote: Ayla did a fine job of detecting TG students around campus, except that he missed the 800 lb Raptor and 1000 lb snake in the room. And a few others.


    Ah but they weren't in the room. Besides he was talking about freshmen.


    He still missed the 4 GSD freshmen TGs.

    Not only are they Thornies and they were discussing Poesies, but they have a pretty good general support structure in place there, with Fubar to sound the alarms if someone is going to hurt themselves, he was identifying the ones that they would need to be there for,

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    7 years 10 months ago #24 by E. E. Nalley
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  • Schol-R-LEA wrote: Wyatt, Wyatt, Wyatt... both you and Nikki should know better by now, though I get that as upset as Fey was she wouldn't be thinking clearly.


    Remember, teenagers. Mutant exemplar teenagers so no only are they SURE they know everything, they have the syndromes to not care what the adults say and just plow ahead. Why do you think Mrs Carson stresses so much about thinking things through and actions having consequences?

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  • I didn't say I was surprised by their actions, just disappointed. Well, no, not really, I love the teen drama stuff, but any chance to get on one's high horse, right?

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    7 years 10 months ago #26 by E. E. Nalley
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  • Schol-R-LEA wrote: I didn't say I was surprised by their actions, just disappointed. Well, no, not really, I love the teen drama stuff, but any chance to get on one's high horse, right?


    Oh, you have DEFINITELY come to the right Riding Club then!

    :woohoo:

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  • E. E. Nalley wrote:

    Schol-R-LEA wrote: I didn't say I was surprised by their actions, just disappointed. Well, no, not really, I love the teen drama stuff, but any chance to get on one's high horse, right?


    Oh, you have DEFINITELY come to the right Riding Club then!

    :woohoo:

    If they can ever find the horse Chou rode on her journey to the campus.
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  • You know I have to wonder about the less used character reactions to the renovations come parents' day. The Puppet scene was a very nice touch, Ayla literally changed her entire world and made it a better place, at risk of invoking Disney shenanigans, for her its "A whole new world" and that really puts things into perspective.

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  • Malady wrote: "Galactic Healer"? Wut?.


    Kodiac. When he was a healer in the Five Fold Court (before The Sundering), he (and Grizly) sometimes traveled to other worlds.
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  • Schol-R-LEA wrote: Wyatt, Wyatt, Wyatt... both you and Nikki should know better by now, though I get that as upset as Fey was she wouldn't be thinking clearly.

    Carson is going to land on them like a ton of bricks when she hears about this - if she didn't sense it as it was happening, which I am pretty sure she would, and if she didn't, Circe, Grimes, or Caduceus probably would have. Oh, and Mrs. Horton, given that it was right there inside Poe and involved students she was monitoring.

    I am sure it would have been fine had they gone for help and guidance from her and the Mystic Arts department first, but seriously, after the mess with Pejuta and Loophole, how could they think that doing a major working like this without supervision wouldn't be noticed, or that they wouldn't be in trouble for it?

    And given past actions, I am guessing that the fact that it pretty much worked out OK will give Carson all the more reason to punish them, to remind them that it might have gone differently.


    What makes you think it was a major working?

    This was a tiny ritual to complete an already cast spell, and the rest was internal to Hank, basically finding and taking control of an existing link. In terms of power, Nikki has used more for most of her 'ops' moments with hobgoblins.

    The Leanen Sidhe had already been summoned and bound to Hank, this was just completing the binding and giving Hank the control of it.
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  • mhalpern wrote:

    Valentine wrote:

    NJM1564 wrote:

    Valentine wrote: Ayla did a fine job of detecting TG students around campus, except that he missed the 800 lb Raptor and 1000 lb snake in the room. And a few others.


    Ah but they weren't in the room. Besides he was talking about freshmen.


    He still missed the 4 GSD freshmen TGs.

    Not only are they Thornies and they were discussing Poesies, but they have a pretty good general support structure in place there, with Fubar to sound the alarms if someone is going to hurt themselves, he was identifying the ones that they would need to be there for,


    From my reading, only one is a Thornie, Adore. She's the only one that has been seen in Hawthorne in the other stories. The boys could be Twain, and the other girl in Whitman.

    They weren't discussing Poesies, they were discussing new TG Students. They included Elle, who is in Dickinson, and they didn't include any of the Gay, Lesbian, or Bi freshmen in Poe.

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  • It seemed to me to be a "These are the ones we need to keep an eye on, for good or ill" session. There are other recent arrivals that haven't made the briefing because of their stability, or their lack of being a threat.

    It was nice to see a reference to Vox, though someone really needs to pull a Cher with her.



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  • Too late for Vox to pull out of it. She had a great thing going with Ayla - someone who was patient and tried to be understanding. Then she screwed it up. Now Ayla is busy studing ... er, French ... with Addy. Happily. Very happily.

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  • elrodw wrote: Too late for Vox to pull out of it. She had a great thing going with Ayla - someone who was patient and tried to be understanding. Then she screwed it up. Now Ayla is busy studing ... er, French ... with Addy. Happily. Very happily.

    Exactly, she needs to pull her head out of a very impossible and painful anatomical position and realize that was her largely her fault.

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  • Welp, Anomaly can loan her a crowbar to assist with the extraction.

    Not a lot of sympathy though
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  • Am I the only one that's just happy that Nikki finally got the message her friends and Carson were trying to tell her?

    I'm glad the flashback to the confrontation with Hank was in there. It's been a while since I read that one, and I'd forgotten how incredibly close Nikki came to swearing to become Aung in form, legacy and title. Like...a single different word would have put her on that path forever and stolen her future from her.

    Let's give Hank credit for avoiding global thaumaturgical war, and getting everyone back to high school drama chess.

    One more question. I thought into was mentioned that the girl's side of the changeling wings are already full. Where are Jessie and Fina staying in Poe? Noms' old room? ;)
    One floor up?
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  • Noms is still butthurt that she can't hide from everyone anymore.

    The Kimbas are fairly convinced that she's insane.
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  • I have to wonder if Nikki and Wyatt (Who is probably technically a TA since he is likely taking magic courses and online college stuff) might go to Carson themselves and use the incident to stress the need to inform the other Sidhe (and Drow) on campus of this possible pitfall, since it seems that older Sidhe are not informing the younger ones. not even likely those with avatars.

    In the end reality is only consensual! It means that Al Gore is causing "Global Warming" by his rhetoric alone! Fortunately, there are enough Global Warming "Deniers" still about to keep him from boiling the planet.

    =^+^=
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  • Most of them don't know.

    Aunghadhail was spoon-feeding Nikki how to handle things and guiding her around the pitfalls.

    Most of the others don't HAVE that potent, guiding consciousness giving them a leg up.
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  • JG wrote: Most of them don't know.

    Aunghadhail was spoon-feeding Nikki how to handle things and guiding her around the pitfalls.

    Most of the others don't HAVE that potent, guiding consciousness giving them a leg up.


    Definitely something that needs to be corrected then :)

    In the end reality is only consensual! It means that Al Gore is causing "Global Warming" by his rhetoric alone! Fortunately, there are enough Global Warming "Deniers" still about to keep him from boiling the planet.

    =^+^=
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  • Katssun wrote: One more question. I thought into was mentioned that the girl's side of the changeling wings are already full. Where are Jessie and Fina staying in Poe? Noms' old room? ;)
    One floor up?


    Things will get even more confusing when mid-term and mid-year students enter in.
    Thinking about Gwen, do you want her near Nikki or not?

    On one hand, Carson can walk her up and point at Nikki. "See this person? This is what NOT to do to become a normal, well-adjusted Sidhe."

    On the other, do you throw Gwen at Nikki, hoping she stabilizes Nikki?

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  • Do the drow actually have that problem?

    Sure, Belphy is magically active, but Jobe makes vows and vengeful promises all the time and they just blow up in her face almost every time.
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  • JG wrote: Most of the others don't HAVE that potent, guiding consciousness giving them a leg up.


    If I'm not mistaken, there are 3 other protagonist sidhe that we know of.
    • Absinthe: only communication with original being through dreams.
    • Elle Ruud: original amnesiac and knows about as much as Elle herself
    • Whisper: doesn't even have a mental passenger to assist her.

    Speaking of which, Whisper's author hasn't been around lately, but what happened to Elle? We got her first story which ended with her going to France to train and the next we saw her was now in Hank 5, and she still doesn't have a codename.

    Insanity: for when normal just isn't interesting enough.
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  • Actually, based on my count, there are actually close to 10-12 Sidhe either at, or en route to Whateley as of 2007, barring that any of the lesser seen ones have left or graduated.
    -not counting the drow, of course-

    Fey
    Sanctuary
    Thorne
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  • Katssun wrote: One more question. I thought into was mentioned that the girl's side of the changeling wings are already full. Where are Jessie and Fina staying in Poe? Noms' old room? ;)
    One floor up?


    As best as I can tell, Room 227 in Boyz Town is still open, right between Noms' and Murphy's room, and the boys' restroom/shower.

    That's the one I put Valravn in for my fan fic, but given Mrs. Horton's usual attitude toward the born-XY&staying-XY students, he'd be bumped to Jr. High or a converted closet in the basement the second there was a billeting conflict.

    I wouldn't be surprised if gay students arriving later in the semester or year get bumped into Twain and wished good luck with that. (Emerson and Melville seem to attract the 'bashers, so there might be some sympathy, even for 'pretties', if the boys can be accepting of the GSD kids in return?)


    JG wrote: Noms is still butthurt that she can't hide from everyone anymore.

    The Kimbas are fairly convinced that she's insane.


    A soot-encrusted kettle calling the pot black, that.

    In fanfic-land it's not much better: Every time Metro looks at having six arms + gravity powers, and considers how much munitions Noms could carry and use in a firefight, he ends up having to adjust his clothing.

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  • null0trooper wrote: As best as I can tell, Room 227 in Boyz Town is still open, right between Noms' and Murphy's room, and the boys' restroom/shower.

    That's the one I put Valravn in for my fan fic, but given Mrs. Horton's usual attitude toward the born-XY&staying-XY students, he'd be bumped to Jr. High or a converted closet in the basement the second there was a billeting conflict.

    I wouldn't be surprised if gay students arriving later in the semester or year get bumped into Twain and wished good luck with that. (Emerson and Melville seem to attract the 'bashers, so there might be some sympathy, even for 'pretties', if the boys can be accepting of the GSD kids in return?)

    Even then, there's still some shuffling to be done too. Absinthe is on her way, and though Spark and Reach get away with it for "medical" reasons, Mrs. Horton is never going to let Jinx and Sphere stay together after they start getting "friendly."

    Maybe Christina gets thrown out of the dorm for being a constant bitch to Martina and Alyss even after they were separated?
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  • Or Christina gets moved to a different floor.

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  • From start to finish, Toni's enthusiasm combined with genuine caring make a nice counterpoint to some of the angst going round. As I picture it, when Sensei Chandler gets around to settling down, someone better be ready and willing for a house full of kids, their friends, grandkids, their friends, and so forth. Recommending an exemplar or energizer, to survive the cookies baked for said kids since Momma Chandler can't have none.


    For those who missed some of the nightmare fuel:

    Ayla: Something has to be terribly wrong in his family dynamic for him to still not notice that it's a Very Bad Sign when a friend who normally hugs everyone else doesn't try to hug him. Even if he's uncomfortable with hugging, himself: after being apart for a summer most would forget that. The Goodkind parenting style seems to be "Here's another pill. Shake it off and get back in the game.".

    Now picture being Tansy, who knows with crystal-clear hindsight exactly how badly she, the one person who could have understood what he was going through, treated him.

    [ If it isn't clearly stated in my fan fic: Metro shares my belief that telepathy is one of the worst curses to be stuck with, with always-on empathy a close second. Fubar, who knows what the kid sees with his astral sight and aura reading, and how bad the PTSD-fueled hypervigilance must be for someone to be constantly be using them at Whateley, doesn't have to agree. ]


    The Leannan: For this piece of work, one that lives on the essence generated by strong "dark" emotions, to be so pathologically afraid that a Sidhe noble -in relative infancy- might notice its presence that the thing's been playing "Shiny Happy People" non-stop since the first encounter? The Sidhe are even more The Kindly Ones than Hank's afraid of.


    Speaking of the Sidhe: The whole Hearthwife deal shows these are folks that thought nothing more of binding a brownie, mind and soul, to a warrior - using the warrior's own mind and soul to seal it - than a supply clerk issuing some Brasso with a seabag. Not only did the Leannan love them for it, they apparently kept using the spell after the Bastard tinkered with it.

    Did anyone else get the impression that these warriors weren't expected to live past their "service", and so it wouldn't matter if their prospective mates were offended by the details of the hearthwife's appearance? Then again, things could have been *very* different in a polygynous society.

    Not to mention Aunghadhail setting Nikki mentally up to suicide in recreating herself in the image of "The Queen That Ain't Been or Done Jack for a Quarter-Billion Years". Nikki's mentors deserve a few black marks for not spelling out the risks of Oathing onesself the first day.


    Bonus fridge logic: Judicator, Athena's own return engagement, seems no less hungry for wisdom than Counterpoint is for a blod bath. Yet she seems to have avoided Fey instead of pumping Aunghadhail for knowledge. In retrospect, that should have told us something about Queenie.


    Koehnes: Someone asked about her? Given the boot after her dead burnt human babies speech. Looking back on her past appearances, she would have been ecstatic to have been remade by the Queen into a Hearthwife. Think about that the next time you set some milk out for the Good People.


    Hank: I think that Lily is well aware that she doesn't have the perfect Exemplar or Sidhe body (but she could have that appearance if she wanted to) She may not mind the idea of Hank's perfect wife being Lily's mind and personality in a Fey-class chassis. The fawning adoration part? Oh, yeah. Hank better not EVER expect that from HER!

    Come to think of it, most stories in which a man is "gifted" with a mind-slave compliant wife show that turning out horribly for both parties. (Not even old stories, as I recall authors as diverse as Piers Anthony and Neil Gaiman touching on the topic)

    "Be not concerned," Kodiak rumbled. "I and you friend will guide you. Remember, the true purpose of this spell is to bind a helpful brownie to yourself, there is little to fear."

    "Little?" Hank yelped as Lily kissed his forehead and Nikki begun chanting.


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  • The more we learn about the Five Fold Courts, the less sympathy I have for them. Sure, The Bastard is evil through and through, but the Sidhe were clearly not a whole lot better. Petty bickering, infighting, nastiness, subjugation, laziness, backstabbing, and arrogance. This is why is it so important Nikki didn't fulfill her destiny through Aung's guidance, at least with what we now know from Gen 2.

    No wonder Amaterasu and Wakan Tanka both hate Aung.
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  • On Nikki not knowing she could oath herself, it is VERY possible Aunghadhail intentionally kept her from learning that, as a contingency, so she may have been told, but she wouldn't remember it, remember, she was a Sidhe Queen, trickery is to be expected.

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  • Katssun wrote: The more we learn about the Five Fold Courts, the less sympathy I have for them. Sure, The Bastard is evil through and through, but the Sidhe were clearly not a whole lot better.


    And dragons:

    "Watch your back, shoot straight, conserve ammo, and never, EVER cut a deal with a dragon."

    In my personal head-canon, the dragon-ruled Sixth World has enough other parallels to Svartalfheim (dwarves, elves - in Norse and Celtic naming "the Black" is referring to hair color), a plane/world/land in/from a decidedly Northern cosmology, that the saying still holds within Whateley's Midgard as the best way to conduct oneself in the presence of Our Benevolent Draconian Overlords.

    Based on the "oversight" in not gifting the Court of the North with an artificer, I can wonder if that was an intentional diplomatic snub, or if providing the Court with a golem requiring the death and alchemical rendering of thousands or more humans would have been a far greater offense, or ... maybe a bit of both. :)


    Katssun wrote: Petty bickering, infighting, nastiness, subjugation, laziness, backstabbing, and arrogance.


    Almost like they were real people! B)


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    Placing money on that being just the tip of the iceberg.

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  • Of course being less magical than Aug, or perhaps merely magical instead of MAGIC, the other sidhe might not have the self oathing problems that Nikki does.
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  • elrodw wrote: Or Christina gets moved to a different floor.


    Or she get CeeCee for a roommate.
    Is Christina TG?

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    So Imp's in charge of planning?

    By my count there are currently 16 Freshman girls during the mixer in Hank 5. Absinthe and Sphere are on their way, well not for a month or more.

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  • Rose Bunny wrote: Actually, based on my count, there are actually close to 10-12 Sidhe either at, or en route to Whateley as of 2007, barring that any of the lesser seen ones have left or graduated.
    -not counting the drow, of course-

    Fey
    Sanctuary
    Thorne
    Zepyr
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    Shadowdancer
    Selkie
    Whisper

    Anomaly
    Koala
    Elle


    *Koala rips open the door, "I'm not a bloody Sidhe!" She mutters, "Stupid git," as she slams the door closed.*

    Koala only looks like a Sidhe.

    *The door flies open again, "And call me SPIDER!" Then she slams the door and walks away cursing.*

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  • Lodestone/Ironworks (Maxine), Mischief's roommate, either is or isn't, though isn't is far more likely.

    At least she and Koala have something in common!
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  • annachie wrote: Of course being less magical than Aug, or perhaps merely magical instead of MAGIC, the other sidhe might not have the self oathing problems that Nikki does.

    Doubtful more likely Aung wanted to live again and not have to deal with the backlash of forcing or coercing Nikki into an Oath, instead nurturing her till she promised to be a Sidhe Queen and by nature of sorcerer's contract achieving that goal in the simplest way possible, Aung would have primary if not full control over Nikki's body, remember Sidhe are biologically immortal, that means Aung was no stranger to playing the long game.

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  • Valentine wrote: They included Elle, who is in Dickinson, and they didn't include any of the Gay, Lesbian, or Bi freshmen in Poe.


    But Elle was mentioned after the fact. I'm 99% sure she was brought up for being Sidhe, and they have no idea as to the TG.

    As for the Sidhe themselves, they all have their own agendas, as all the old beings do. At best, they're only as nice as they can be in pursuit of their goals. It's also possible that Aunghadhail herself wasn't necessarily bad at heart, but was a slave to her own oaths. If she'd sworn to preserve the Courts or her own people... As is being hammered home, a great many atrocities could be committed in pursuit of such.

    Further on oaths and Sidhe, my interpretation is that they're a Sorcerer's Contract, or very similar. An agreement that's made and secured with a spark of magic. The issue being that since Sidhe (and Artificers, for that matter) are inherently magical... Well, it would be easy for such a being to pledge themselves to a course of action.

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  • Ametros wrote: Further on oaths and Sidhe, my interpretation is that they're a Sorcerer's Contract, or very similar. An agreement that's made and secured with a spark of magic. The issue being that since Sidhe (and Artificers, for that matter) are inherently magical... Well, it would be easy for such a being to pledge themselves to a course of action.


    Very much so. And not much more difficult for a mutant Wiz class ... remember how we talk about the well leaking? when you're carrying around all that Essence, near your capacity for what you can contain with your Will... it's very easy for even undefined intent to burn off the 'splashes' of Essence that spill out. What do you think would happen if a little loose Essence is there as you shake your hand and agree to stop by your Ex's New Year's party that you were totally going to skip? Ya... you're going to find yourself at that party one way or another. :)

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  • Re the apparently lack of rooms in Poe:

    Oh, FOR PITY'S SAKE... didn't you notice the scaffoldings still up, right in the beginning of the story? That's because Poe ISN'T ENTIRELY FINISHED YET. We haven't been shown them, but obviously there are entire wings that are still being worked on.

    Remember, Old!Poe was NOT even filled to capacity, at least not as late as when CeeCee arrived. And New!Poe is supposed to be TWICE as big. At least. Do you honestly think that the influx of new freshmen was big enough to fill New!Poe to its entire projected capacity?

    No, it only filled the cottage to its temporarily reduced capacity. Pretty soon the builders will finish another wing, and the overcrowding issues will disappear.

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  • Let's also be clear here guys: the Five-Fold Courts were a POWER back in the day. That doesn't mean they were the only one. It means they were the best-known.

    And as a spoiler: Allow me to clue you in to the fact that the Artificers did not, at any point, trace their origin within the five-fold court. They were a gift.

    It was not a kind gift, and yes, the court of the Dragons was deliberately snubbed by the giver.

    For Fey, she and Aung were the same person in many ways. Aunghadhail dying was, in very many ways akin to losing a piece of your personality never to recover it. Nikki thought of Aung as another person, but Aung never though of Nikki as separate for herself. If she deliberately hurt nikki, to her mind, she would be deliberately hurting herself. She died, because even if she were lessened by the loss of what once was, she would still be alive through Nikki, with new eyes, and new experiences, without the prejudices and pride of the past. Certainly she wanted to keep everything she was when she and Nikki eventually merged, because the death of self was still a death.

    But if Nikki died, all of her would die, not just a long-disassociated, jaded part of herself.

    Aunghadhail was a bitch, truly, from a human perspective. But what we have never shown you was why, how she was as bound to bitchdom by her own oaths as any slave would be bound to chains. She likely didn't tell nikki because Nikki might become bound to every casual utterance for fear that the magic would overtake and enslave her to do it anyway. You don't teach children to make life-altering blood-oaths.

    Caitlin and Anomaly are incredibly lucky in this regard. They have people who can warn them, and give them guidance. Caitlin is adult enough to know when a promise matters, and Anomaly is child enough to be terrified of even appearing to make a promise.

    And for the record: Anomaly is not, never was, and never will be Sidhe. Center Court were not Sidhe. The center court was never a civilized thing, and things like Kodiak, the Healer of Gaia and Rythax the Shadowcat ambassador were bridges between a civilized world and something far more primal than even Aunghadhail could really articulate.
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  • Sir Lee wrote: Re the apparently lack of rooms in Poe:

    Oh, FOR PITY'S SAKE... didn't you notice the scaffoldings still up, right in the beginning of the story? That's because Poe ISN'T ENTIRELY FINISHED YET. We haven't been shown them, but obviously there are entire wings that are still being worked on.

    Remember, Old!Poe was NOT even filled to capacity, at least not as late as when CeeCee arrived. And New!Poe is supposed to be TWICE as big. At least. Do you honestly think that the influx of new freshmen was big enough to fill New!Poe to its entire projected capacity?

    No, it only filled the cottage to its temporarily reduced capacity. Pretty soon the builders will finish another wing, and the overcrowding issues will disappear.


    The Sophomore (TK and friends plus Sharisha) is full, Punch, Anomaly, and Murphy are on the boys wing. The Freshmen girls wing has, by my count. 16 girls plus Angel as the RA. So there is an empty room or two with singles.

    The second floor boys wing only has 10 boys, plus Steve as RA, and Punch in a single, along with Murphy and Noms. So there are a couple of empty rooms there.

    Now upstairs there are 30 or so students (assuming Haller and Sigil are in Poe) minus any of the unknown class that graduated. Each wing holds 19 students, and there are the attic "penthouses." Looks like there is plenty of room.

    If anything the upstairs is a ghost town.

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  • Sir Lee wrote: Re the apparently lack of rooms in Poe:

    Oh, FOR PITY'S SAKE... didn't you notice the scaffoldings still up, right in the beginning of the story? That's because Poe ISN'T ENTIRELY FINISHED YET. We haven't been shown them, but obviously there are entire wings that are still being worked on.


    The Whateley Universe does have fantasy elements, but ANY construction being completed even close to the time expected? That's a bit hard to swallow.

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    7 years 10 months ago #63 by Valentine
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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: Re the apparently lack of rooms in Poe:

    Oh, FOR PITY'S SAKE... didn't you notice the scaffoldings still up, right in the beginning of the story? That's because Poe ISN'T ENTIRELY FINISHED YET. We haven't been shown them, but obviously there are entire wings that are still being worked on.


    The Whateley Universe does have fantasy elements, but ANY construction being completed even close to the time expected? That's a bit hard to swallow.


    I don't think they expected it to be done before the Fall Semester. They would have focussed on getting Hawthorne done, because that building can literally mean life or death for it's residents. And Foobs was complaining about his temporary living conditions.

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  • As for the Drow, they ESPECIALLY need to know, since they have even less of a clue. They may not be old Sidhe, but they have the genetics (altered of course) and many of the same weaknesses, although I don't think they are trapped being herbivores. (although Fish is edible to Sidhe)

    Heck even my fan character Alexa Underwood (Parable-possibly Bewitcher II) needs to know and she isn't even Sidhe! Just looks like a Human version of Nikki who only gets silver blood/cold Iron issues when supercharged from Ley Lines.

    She's like the anti-Sidhe in that she can't get enough Beef Jerky,

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  • Jobe's Drow aren't necessarily Sidhe.

    THey're based on Sidhe.

    But not a damn one of them spontaneously developed magical powers from being essence-sensitive.

    jobe used his work to focus on the physical, structural aspect of the Sidhe race. he didn't mimic the essence sensitivity... so far as we know.
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  • So essence sensitive drow are 2.0?
    I'm sensing a Gen 2 Karadonia character here who keeps making promises and doesn't understand why she's compelled to actually keep them.

    And Belphy is a wizard because of normal human mutation, not her Drow side, otherwise the other drow would be wizards as well.
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  • JG wrote: Jobe's Drow aren't necessarily Sidhe.

    THey're based on Sidhe.

    But not a damn one of them spontaneously developed magical powers from being essence-sensitive.

    jobe used his work to focus on the physical, structural aspect of the Sidhe race. he didn't mimic the essence sensitivity... so far as we know.


    I did note that there were a few differences, and "as far as we know" leaves a lot of room for things to go sideways really fast! :)

    I'm more of a better safe than sorry type, in other-words "Do not Taunt Murphy" Either the Law or the hockey-stick wielding odds mangler! I just figure Mrs. Carson would be as well.

    I thought Belphebe, was at the very least, magically sensitive.

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  • As per Kristin's confirmation, the Drow need only be concerned about oaths when magic is at play. Which to the best of our knowledge isn't a thing for all Drow - just if they're Wiz mutants, or in dealings with magical beings.

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  • Domoviye wrote: So essence sensitive drow are 2.0?
    I'm sensing a Gen 2 Karadonia character here who keeps making promises and doesn't understand why she's compelled to actually keep them.

    And Belphy is a wizard because of normal human mutation, not her Drow side, otherwise the other drow would be wizards as well.


    But Jobe, despite all the evidence, doesn't believe in magic.

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    ...naaaaaaah.
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  • Hey, magic is just another type of science! Who says it can't be studied to predict outcomes? Magic is probably more consistent than psychology and it can get away with being called science.

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    Is that on the list? I feel that should be on the list.

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    7 years 10 months ago #79 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • The list consists of things JG has done, not what he has threatened.
    7 years 10 months ago #80 by Angeldude
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  • Meaning that in order to add it to the list, JG needs to do it. I don't see anything wrong with that.

    Insanity: for when normal just isn't interesting enough.
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    7 years 10 months ago #81 by Wavehead
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  • Enjoyed this chapter immensely Phoenix Spiritus :)
    You have achieved, imo, the very difficult task of integrating most of the Team Kimba characters into your story as though the original authors had written their dialogue.
    Your writing of Hank is very sensitive and makes a great foil for Team Kimba's characters B)
    7 years 10 months ago #82 by JG
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  • I feel vindicated in declining to write Hank when I was accepted into canon.

    Hank is far more interesting through Phoenix than he ever would be through my eye. Phoenix does Hank justice that I never could.

    I would have missed the nuances that make Lancer real. there wouldnt have been a Hannah box, There wouldn't have been a scene as powerful as Hank giving up as the Leannan Sidhe gripped his soul. It would never have been as good.

    Thanks, Phoenix, for bringing Hank Declan to life.
    7 years 10 months ago #83 by Domoviye
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  • Phoenix does have the right flair for Hank. And now he's showing how well he can connect with Team Kimba as a whole.
    7 years 10 months ago #84 by elrodw
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  • When I read Phoenix's fan fic, when I read some of what he was proposing for Danny, I had no qualms about talking to the cabal about sponsoring his first Hank story for canon status, and working with him to get it ready and published. The rest is history.

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    7 years 10 months ago #85 by Ametros
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  • Yeah, Phoenix does Hank justice, and the rest of TK, too. Even for the more problematic characters like Jade, they feel right. They may not be written by their established authors, but as a reader I have no qualms whatsoever with the care and attention given their actions, personalities, relationships and dynamics.

    Whateley is all the better for having you as part of it, Phoenix Spiritus.

    Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.
    7 years 10 months ago #86 by Kettlekorn
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  • Katssun wrote: The more we learn about the Five Fold Courts, the less sympathy I have for them. Sure, The Bastard is evil through and through, but the Sidhe were clearly not a whole lot better. Petty bickering, infighting, nastiness, subjugation, laziness, backstabbing, and arrogance.

    What you have just described is People In General, a group to which the Sidhe definitely belonged, even if they did have pointy ears.

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    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #87 by Rose Bunny
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  • Kettlekorn wrote: What you have just described is People In General, a group to which the Sidhe definitely belonged, even if they did have pointy ears.


    it is not Logical.

    you don't suppose Vulcans are Sidhe with copper-based blood?

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    7 years 10 months ago #88 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • Lords and Ladies wrote: Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder.
    Elves are marvelous. They cause marvels.
    Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies.
    Elves are glamorous. They project glamour.
    Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment.
    Elves are terrific. They beget terror.
    The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes, look behind words that have changed their meaning.
    No one ever said elves are nice.


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  • The Alfar can be courteous to a fault, fatally so for some who encounter them, but not nice.

    Indeed, to be "nice" in return to their courtesies is perhaps the gravest of errors - for one is only obsequious to one's betters, or pitying to lesser persons - suggesting in turn that they have wasted their time or regard on you.

    Better, perchance, to insult them then, as one would jest amongst one's peers, if the challenge is met and carried out well and in good humor, be you enemies or compatriots afterward, the worth of both parties is thereby assured.

    Or, I could be lying.

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    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #90 by Bek D Corbin
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  • Now that the debate on the topic has waned a bit, let me get WOGgy- Belphoebe is magically active.

    Jobe did not cause this to happen.

    Jobe would love to know how that happened, because if she could, should isolate the genome and study the phenomena on a properly empirical basis.

    She has studied Belphy's genome to the point where she's beaten her head on the floor with frustration.

    She has tried to get Belphy to assist her with certain experiments along these lines.

    When Jobe asks Belphy to help with one of 'those experiments', Belphy says 'No Sex Tonight!'

    And Jobe shuts up about it
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    7 years 10 months ago #91 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • What does it mean to be "magically active"? Does that mean that her Well is lit, or is it something else?


    Also, does Belphoebe have a codename?

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    7 years 10 months ago #92 by Ametros
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  • Likely just a sensitivity to magic, much as Ayla can "see" magic to a degree. Of course, it could be more...

    I suggest that further discussion along this line go to the relevant thread/s? Not really to do with this story at all, is all.

    Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.
    7 years 10 months ago #93 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • Wow.

    It seems while I slept people turned this thread into a me lovefest … ah … thank you all for the kind words, and I'll try to keep writing the stories you like, I think you'll definitely like the next one :D
    7 years 10 months ago #94 by Yolandria
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  • We love you Phoenix...But we would love you more if you kept up with JG. :whip:

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    7 years 10 months ago #95 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • I have a job, JG has some sort of mutation … oh, and months and months of suppressed, thwarted creative energy ... amongst other things ...
    7 years 10 months ago #96 by Sir Lee
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  • Taking the Belphoebe discussion to the Characters subforum.

    Don't call me "Shirley." You will surely make me surly.
    7 years 10 months ago #97 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • Back on topic, I hope that Hank's brownie (now christened Little Nikki, or Likki for short nope! Withdrawn.) has enough personality to grow beyond the simple Hank devotion, or no personal identity at all, or life is going to suck for her for a while. Her raison d'etre is to make Hank happy, but her very existence is going to cause Hank constant problems. Nikki will be uncomfortable because duh. Lily will be angry and scared and jealous because double duh. If the other students find out they will be some combination of jealous and grossed out, the exact balance of which will mostly depend on morality and sexual orientation. The teachers will be angry. And Hank is going to be uncomfortable with her on top of his reactions to and empathy for everyone else's reactions.

    I'm unsure of Little Nikki is capable of suicide. But if she is, I predict that she'll be a higher risk case than Downpour.

    Actually, now I really want to see some counseling sessions between her and Dr. Bellows. That seems like it would be hilarious and poignant at the same time.

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    7 years 10 months ago #98 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote: … Hank's brownie (now christened Little Nikki, or Likki for short nope! Withdrawn.) …


    Check the tags, you'll find her name there :)
    7 years 10 months ago #99 by Valentine
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  • Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

    Arcanist Lupus wrote: … Hank's brownie (now christened Little Nikki, or Likki for short nope! Withdrawn.) …


    Check the tags, you'll find her name there :)



    And here I thought that had been a typo.

    TYPO [ Click to expand ]


    BTW: Not enough quaffing.

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    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #100 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • Valentine wrote:

    TYPO [ Click to expand ]


    I fixed it! I fixed it!

    Sheesh! :rolleyes:

    You volunteering for the copywriter's job? Pay nil, pedantic disposition a must?
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  • Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

    Valentine wrote:

    TYPO [ Click to expand ]


    I fixed it! I fixed it!

    Sheesh! :rolleyes:

    You volunteering for the copywriter's job? Pay nil, pedantic disposition a must?


    No, because other than misspellings, I am unqualified. I wouldn't catch grammar mistakes.

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    7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #102 by Esar
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  • I know I am saying this pretty much each time I am writing to comment on a story, but thank you Phoenix. It might be a bit more personal than the other ones, because while I am not as attached to Team Kimba as most readers (mainly because most of the first canon stories that I have read had been written after the staff had to move the focus away from TK to other new character's PoV such as Kayda), Ayla is still one of my favorite character and I found while reading your story that every scene was on point.

    It was everything I could have hoped for.
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    7 years 10 months ago #103 by Rose Bunny
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  • I was confused at one point, when talking about Shroud, she was referred to as Shade. I don't know of a change of Jinn's codename, so I'm guessing it was a mistake?

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  • Should we see Whisper? Will we see Whisper? Is Whisper going to be a Poe girl? She seems bi. Oh, and I'm not nearly good enough to do Whisper justice but I found the author's tendency to slip on tense and narrator a bit jarring. Still one of my favorite stories in the WU.
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  • Anne wrote: Should we see Whisper? Will we see Whisper? Is Whisper going to be a Poe girl?


    Why would Whisper be reassigned to Poe? In both the original and canon versions of the story, Brianna was assigned to Whitman Cottage.

    As to whether the character will see more use? Maybe. The Grunts or the "Atlantean Conspiracy" could use her abilities, even with Sara and Aunghadhail out of the picture.

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    7 years 9 months ago - 7 years 9 months ago #106 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • Valentine wrote:

    mhalpern wrote:

    Valentine wrote:

    NJM1564 wrote:

    Valentine wrote: Ayla did a fine job of detecting TG students around campus, except that he missed the 800 lb Raptor and 1000 lb snake in the room. And a few others.


    Ah but they weren't in the room. Besides he was talking about freshmen.


    He still missed the 4 GSD freshmen TGs.

    Not only are they Thornies and they were discussing Poesies, but they have a pretty good general support structure in place there, with Fubar to sound the alarms if someone is going to hurt themselves, he was identifying the ones that they would need to be there for,


    From my reading, only one is a Thornie, Adore. She's the only one that has been seen in Hawthorne in the other stories. The boys could be Twain, and the other girl in Whitman.

    They weren't discussing Poesies, they were discussing new TG Students. They included Elle, who is in Dickinson, and they didn't include any of the Gay, Lesbian, or Bi freshmen in Poe.


    Actually they were just discussing 'interesting' students. To them the 'new' changelings in Poe are interesting to them, they all would feel a responsibility to mentor them, and of course a new possible Sidhe on campus is going to get them talking to Nikki to check if she really is or not. None of them know about her being a changeling, they are just interested in if she is a Sidhe or not.
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