Question Imp 6 A Very Imp-ortant Date!

Katssun wrote: I hope they learn from an idiot (Williams, student in Dunwich, student in Berlin) that she has an open classroom Saturday morning. Aside from Art History and Art 2, that is her nastiest bunch of misfits. Even they wouldn't be so stupid to attack during the regular school day, even they could even get on campus that easily.

I do not hope that this gets Aegis seriously hurt or killed. The boy has already shown he can learn! He's a step above many of the SpyKidz.

Williams, for all he hates Imp, I don't think is going to encourage any one to commit acts of violence on Campus. He was around for Halloween the previous year, and saw the outcome. (If a full fledged Syndicate attack couldn't succeed, how will the IRS?)

If the Syndicate gets word about their plans, they may let slip about the reward for killing Jade. Of course then hilarity would ensue as Jade did unmentionable things to people trying to hurt her. (As much fun as that would be to read, it is not going to happen.)

My list was trying to find the most embarrassing group to take out the IRS. Any of the competent, high powered students, or even moderate powered, wouldn't have a problem. So no Kimbas, Grunts, Outcasts, Olympians, Capes, Seeds, etc.

Imp is not a fighter, which is part of the problem she has dealing with these yahoos. Hmmm, Sensei Ito, or Tolman should start an evening class for Staff and Faculty... Imp would be really scary if she learned how to fight.

Now that we've seen Heaven's powers, we've gotten a pretty big clue to her identity, if not had it revealed entirely!

Katssun wrote: Now that we've seen Heaven's powers, we've gotten a pretty big clue to her identity, if not had it revealed entirely!

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Heaven is Imp's illegitimate daughter, who is angry at Imp for not telling her truth about their relationship and supporting her through her childhood!

Then, Heaven tragically turned to a life of crime after accidentally injuring her love rival and the object of her affection with the espresso machine and a Venti with caramel swirl with a faulty lid while at work. Because the focus of her unrequited love had fallen for...gasp...her coworker!. If only she had Imp there to support her and help her grow into a responsible barista who reacted calmly and rationally to emotional stress. A mother to support and help her grow! Not just a woman who ordered a Unicorn Frappuccino, gave her a generous tip, and pretended she didn't know her.

The sight of Imp teaching Aegis and Melissa will only make her more angry and bitter!

No. I don't know what's going to happen in the future, but no. That isn't going to happen!

Domoviye wrote:

Katssun wrote: Now that we've seen Heaven's powers, we've gotten a pretty big clue to her identity, if not had it revealed entirely!

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Heaven is Imp's illegitimate daughter, who is angry at Imp for not telling her truth about their relationship and supporting her through her childhood!

Then, Heaven tragically turned to a life of crime after accidentally injuring her love rival and the object of her affection with the espresso machine and a Venti with caramel swirl with a faulty lid while at work. Because the focus of her unrequited love had fallen for...gasp...her coworker!. If only she had Imp there to support her and help her grow into a responsible barista who reacted calmly and rationally to emotional stress. A mother to support and help her grow! Not just a woman who ordered a Unicorn Frappuccino, gave her a generous tip, and pretended she didn't know her.

The sight of Imp teaching Aegis and Melissa will only make her more angry and bitter!

No. I don't know what's going to happen in the future, but no. That isn't going to happen!

Because the Unicorn Frappuccinos didn't exist until 2017?

I just realized something. In the prior chapter there was a lot of discussion about who might jump into the help IMP from the school. Well, what if someone did? What if the source of this information came from Amelia Hartford. Just as an example. we have heard her say that part of her job is making sure her boss doesn't get her hands dirty, or something along those lines.

The easiest way to squash bugs is to put out some honey to lure them into range after all.

Hartford thrashing the IRS would be worth its word count in troy ounces.

She's implied to Tansy that the two of them are very much alike, almost parallels of each other, but we know remarkably little about Amelia's true abilities.

Katssun wrote: Hartford thrashing the IRS would be worth its word count in troy ounces.

She's implied to Tansy that the two of them are very much alike, almost parallels of each other, but we know remarkably little about Amelia's true abilities.

That's because all information about said abilities is constantly wiped from every computer network in the world by a search and destroy program obviously, so officially her abilities don't exist.

Team Awesome taking out the IRS or Aquerna Soloing them.

I was thinking that the baby somehow survived the miscarriage and grew up a boy taught to hate Imp then manifested fully (Regen since prenatal) and ended up distaff.


...NAW!

I could so see them trying to use Ribbon as a hastage though, if Sequel uses magic to restrain her, she has her bracelets, and for everything else, Ex 6.

I now have a bad feeling that history could repeat itself. Imp has just had a romantic interlude for the first time in fifteen years, they quite possibly didn't take precautions and the IRS is going to jump her again. Surely no Whateley Author would be that cruel to one of their characters.

Awww! Nice! Great romantic times with Imp and Superhawk, family reconciliation with Danny Boy!

Piper + Muscle Ship! ... I was shipping when she ran to him, before Imp said anything!

... I didn't know that Imp had scales... Given that Mutation is Five Fold stuff... And usually all based on templates... I'm thinking Baby Dragon or something... Demons don't usually seem to have scales...

Imp is not a fighter, which is part of the problem she has dealing with these yahoos. Hmmm, Sensei Ito, or Tolman should start an evening class for Staff and Faculty... Imp would be really scary if she learned how to fight.

I have to take issue with this. Yes, she's not a brick, "fight through a horde of heroes", go a a rampage type of of fighter, but she IS a fighter. I think we've seen that pretty consistantly across her stories. So to say she needs to learn how to fight is pretty disingenuous. I'd even argue she's a better fighter than most.

She's been in big fights in most of her stories and come out on top in them. And that's because of her style. Yes, she doesn't PREFER to fight, but that comes from her occupation. She's a thief, not a hired muscle, so fighting is usually an unwelcome complication that means a job has gone wrong or she's gotten unwanted attention. And when she DOES have to fight, she uses style, skill, and trickery over brute force. This makes her more akin to a ninja than a boxer. She's spent years honing her skills and perfecting a fighting style unique to her. Most supers tend to turn fights into a "who can hit harder or fly faster" contest, but Imp, like is taught in most martial arts, tries to out-skill the opponent and end the fight quickly. That's why she was chosen to teach Aegis. He's falling into the classic super fistfight trap when he should be using finesse.

pumpernickel wrote:

Imp is not a fighter, which is part of the problem she has dealing with these yahoos. Hmmm, Sensei Ito, or Tolman should start an evening class for Staff and Faculty... Imp would be really scary if she learned how to fight.

I have to take issue with this. Yes, she's not a brick, "fight through a horde of heroes", go a a rampage type of of fighter, but she IS a fighter. I think we've seen that pretty consistantly across her stories. So to say she needs to learn how to fight is pretty disingenuous. I'd even argue she's a better fighter than most.

She's been in big fights in most of her stories and come out on top in them. And that's because of her style. Yes, she doesn't PREFER to fight, but that comes from her occupation. She's a thief, not a hired muscle, so fighting is usually an unwelcome complication that means a job has gone wrong or she's gotten unwanted attention. And when she DOES have to fight, she uses style, skill, and trickery over brute force. This makes her more akin to a ninja than a boxer. She's spent years honing her skills and perfecting a fighting style unique to her. Most supers tend to turn fights into a "who can hit harder or fly faster" contest, but Imp, like is taught in most martial arts, tries to out-skill the opponent and end the fight quickly. That's why she was chosen to teach Aegis. He's falling into the classic super fistfight trap when he should be using finesse.

I quite agree with you. Indeed if Imp didn't have a very good record of winning her fights, she probably wouldn't have the enemies she does. Unfortunately she apparently doesn't kill her enemies, and to some of them that is apparently an insult that cannot be born!

Imp fights. She just doesn't fight fair. I would imagine that if she took one of Ito's classes, or he saw her fighting, he would approve, maybe not of the snark-fu, but hey if you have a black belt in something, use it!

konzill wrote: Surely no Whateley Author would be that cruel to one of their characters.

You have heard of Kayda, right?

Consider that Imp has thus far in the stories alone reaped a rather grim harvest of limbs from enemies

Ya rly. Just in the stories we've seen, she's personally cut off two legs and an arm. I wouldn't personally count the arm that got disintigrated this chapter since that was actually Hexagon 2's blast and Imp just used Crimson Kid as a shield, but if you DO count it, we've got a full set of limbs. We just need a head and torso and we've got a full person!

pumpernickel wrote:

Consider that Imp has thus far in the stories alone reaped a rather grim harvest of limbs from enemies

Ya rly. Just in the stories we've seen, she's personally cut off two legs and an arm. I wouldn't personally count the arm that got disintigrated this chapter since that was actually Hexagon 2's blast and Imp just used Crimson Kid as a shield, but if you DO count it, we've got a full set of limbs. We just need a head and torso and we've got a full person!

What do you think this is, Star Wars?

Arcanist Lupus wrote:
What do you think this is, Star Wars?

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

pumpernickel wrote:

Consider that Imp has thus far in the stories alone reaped a rather grim harvest of limbs from enemies

Ya rly. Just in the stories we've seen, she's personally cut off two legs and an arm. I wouldn't personally count the arm that got disintigrated this chapter since that was actually Hexagon 2's blast and Imp just used Crimson Kid as a shield, but if you DO count it, we've got a full set of limbs. We just need a head and torso and we've got a full person!

What do you think this is, Star Wars?

Either that or Fan-ken-Stien

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

pumpernickel wrote:

Consider that Imp has thus far in the stories alone reaped a rather grim harvest of limbs from enemies

Ya rly. Just in the stories we've seen, she's personally cut off two legs and an arm. I wouldn't personally count the arm that got disintigrated this chapter since that was actually Hexagon 2's blast and Imp just used Crimson Kid as a shield, but if you DO count it, we've got a full set of limbs. We just need a head and torso and we've got a full person!

What do you think this is, Star Wars?

Let the Imp win?

DanZilla wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

pumpernickel wrote:

Consider that Imp has thus far in the stories alone reaped a rather grim harvest of limbs from enemies

Ya rly. Just in the stories we've seen, she's personally cut off two legs and an arm. I wouldn't personally count the arm that got disintigrated this chapter since that was actually Hexagon 2's blast and Imp just used Crimson Kid as a shield, but if you DO count it, we've got a full set of limbs. We just need a head and torso and we've got a full person!

What do you think this is, Star Wars?

Let the Imp win?

Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plagueimp the Wisecracking? I thought not. It's not a story the heroes would tell you.

DanZilla wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

pumpernickel wrote:

Consider that Imp has thus far in the stories alone reaped a rather grim harvest of limbs from enemies

Ya rly. Just in the stories we've seen, she's personally cut off two legs and an arm. I wouldn't personally count the arm that got disintigrated this chapter since that was actually Hexagon 2's blast and Imp just used Crimson Kid as a shield, but if you DO count it, we've got a full set of limbs. We just need a head and torso and we've got a full person!

What do you think this is, Star Wars?

Let the Imp win?

The Imp-ire Strikes Back?

I always preferred the Return of the Imp, the little Impwoks were so cute!

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And an associate of his named Sureshock told Jack Ass Imp is at Whateley Academy, they try to attack her there and they are as good as dead. Have to be completely insane to attack someone at Whateley Academy.

This is my spoiler regarding the spoiler.



I just realized that the character's identity had been discussed in another spoiler post by Dreamer. This is what happens when everything is disguised as spoilers.

I can see them attacking imp during one of her survival class sub days and it will be those kids that kick the irs's ass

Personally, I'd like to see the IRS try to attack the Village, and get stomped on by security and various faculty members. But other than that if students do get involved it's likely to Mischief, Monkeywrench, Ageis and possibly Darqueheart. Seeing as they are the recurring Extras in Imp's previous stories.

You know what I really want to see? I want to see Williams participate in trashing the IRS. I want to see some tiny hint of a redeeming virtue in him. Not friendship with Imp, or even respect, just a sign that something is more important to him than his hatred for her. And if anything would be more important to him, it's the school's protected status. "I still don't think you should be a teacher here, but like it or not, here you are. And nobody but nobody messes with a Whateley teacher in front of me." Something like that. If the IRS has done its homework, it knows some of Imp's past enemies, and might consider reaching out to Williams. He wouldn't even have to do anything except report it to Delarose or Carson.

I don't think it's likely, but Morpheus has pulled the occasional fast one on me before, so it's not entirely impossible.

It just struck me.

Sureshock mentioned about the Imp being a teacher at Whateley, without telling Jack-Rabbit the full story about Whateley Neutrality.

Jack-Rabbit says to the IRS, she's teaching at a private school in New Hampshire.

Since she's a supervillain, she's OBVIOUSLY teaching at a School For Supervillains...

Cue impending carcrash...

:I slap my forehead thrice: and put some popcorn on...

Mister D wrote: It just struck me.

Sureshock mentioned about the Imp being a teacher at Whateley, without telling Jack-Rabbit the full story about Whateley Neutrality.

Jack-Rabbit says to the IRS, she's teaching at a private school in New Hampshire.

Since she's a supervillain, she's OBVIOUSLY teaching at a School For Supervillains...

Cue impending carcrash...

:I slap my forehead thrice: and put some popcorn on...

This would probably be the Syndicates response to the situation.



Then they would tear them all apart..

pumpernickel wrote:

Consider that Imp has thus far in the stories alone reaped a rather grim harvest of limbs from enemies

Ya rly. Just in the stories we've seen, she's personally cut off two legs and an arm. I wouldn't personally count the arm that got disintigrated this chapter since that was actually Hexagon 2's blast and Imp just used Crimson Kid as a shield, but if you DO count it, we've got a full set of limbs. We just need a head and torso and we've got a full person!

At this rate they should change there names from the IRS to the "Tis but a flesh wound dancers."

"Tis but a flesh wound dancers."

I like. " Monty Python players." Myself.

Yolandria wrote:

"Tis but a flesh wound dancers."

I like. " Monty Python players." Myself.

I like the idea of them giving themselves a name that causes the same joke, but they don't get why Imp laughs.

"The Black Nights."

Because we are going to be Imp's darkest night. Or something like that.

I wonder is her PK hot enough to cauterize the wounds otherwise I wonder how some of them survived! I don't expect them to bleed out like a Japanese animation, but yipe they would be pumping it out!

So I'm thinking that Imp's Cutting PK would be searingly/light-saber hot?

Based on what we have seen. I'm guessing her PK field forms a mono edge. No fire for our Impy!

Yeah, that's what it looks like...
OTOH, DPRagan has a point in that a clean cut of a major limb would require a quick application of a tourniquet to avoid massive loss of blood, quickly followed by unconsciousness and death.
So maybe something about Imp's PK field does something to limit the bleeding.

In the case of CTD, I wouldn't be surprised if he has some devisor blood additive to automatically crank up his blood clotting in situations like this.

Kettlekorn wrote: In the case of CTD, I wouldn't be surprised if he has some devisor blood additive to automatically crank up his blood clotting in situations like this.

Would make sense if he's testing things for Devisors and Gadgeteers... since he doesn't have the regen of someone like Peril .

Makes perfect sense to me.... That is CTD having some taken some sort of devisor drug to encourage clotting or healing given his chosen profession.

That still leaves Jack Rabbit... but then, there was a bonafide hero right there who might have a big grudge against Jack Ass, but drew the line at actually letting the guy die. It wouldn't be hard for him to improvise a tourniquet until 911 came.

While we only really see Imp's perspective on this that doesn't seem to be what happened. After all it would seem that she would report seeing it unless ChickenHawk used his powers to improvise the tourniquet. Not saying he didn't but the attackers never saw 911 because they teleported out. there is no telling what sort of emergency medicine was available at the far end of that teleport, but some must have been....

Sir Lee wrote: Yeah, that's what it looks like...
OTOH, DPRagan has a point in that a clean cut of a major limb would require a quick application of a tourniquet to avoid massive loss of blood, quickly followed by unconsciousness and death.
So maybe something about Imp's PK field does something to limit the bleeding.

Just out of curiosity Sir Lee, which limbs aren't major?

What's survivable (for at least a short time)
Arm (as long as it isnt so high up you cant bind it off)
Lower leg (thigh is a fast death as you bleed out through the femoral artery)
A fair bit of damage can be taken to the thorax (as long as something major isn't taken out) - while you will need aid, the internal bleeding isn't immediately fatal.

As an examplemany cases of such injuries caused by machinery have involved people walking (sometimes taking a considerable time) to get help.

Its suprising how much damage a soft squishy human can take, sometimes.

I know I sure took my time comment on part 4, despite reading it so promptly.

My gut reaction when Chickenhawk asked Imp to the dinner on Saturday was that he might have been proposing already. Perhaps a little quickly, but not entirely unreasonable I think. But no, what he did was leagues better and more important for Imp.

Upon finishing, my initial thought was how screwed these chumps would be if they were to go up against Whateley, but then doubt crept in. Security isn't flawless, especially with the likes of the Payola Platoon. Furthermore, they have an unknown ally/sympathiser on the inside in the form of Williams, which seems like the perfect setup for trouble. More trouble for them, most likely, but still a fair amount of danger for Imp.

I can't help but feel that Aegis might be witness to a handful of "heroes" in action...

Ametros wrote:
I can't help but feel that Aegis might be witness to a handful of "heroes" in action...

Dang, now I can't help but wonder if Imp is going to use this as a teaching moment.

peter wrote:

Ametros wrote:
I can't help but feel that Aegis might be witness to a handful of "heroes" in action...

Dang, now I can't help but wonder if Imp is going to use this as a teaching moment.

Consider that in her business, and in the one he's shooting for, you live and learn, or you don't.

Astrodragon wrote: What's survivable (for at least a short time)
Arm (as long as it isnt so high up you cant bind it off)
Lower leg (thigh is a fast death as you bleed out through the femoral artery)
A fair bit of damage can be taken to the thorax (as long as something major isn't taken out) - while you will need aid, the internal bleeding isn't immediately fatal.

As an examplemany cases of such injuries caused by machinery have involved people walking (sometimes taking a considerable time) to get help.

Its suprising how much damage a soft squishy human can take, sometimes.

Indeed, The human body is both amazingly resilient and amazingly fragile all at once.

There are cases of people being struck by trains and surviving for a time with their body literally twisted...well until the body is allowed to untwist. Then there are cases of people ending up dead from what should have been a very minor impact (like tripping and falling, resulting in hitting your head on the floor). I do recall some incredible survivor stories that are well documented. There was a female that suffered an internal decapitation and lived...which just typing that line seems wrong. There is also at least one case of a person being cut in half by a train and surviving. The strangest has to be the person that was under water for over an hour and had a body temperature of 66 degrees that survived. As I recall the report on that, she didn't drown because she essentially froze to death, but doctors were somehow able to revive her after several hours. I don't even want to think about how one would write up that for a medical record for a living person.

MM2ss wrote:

Astrodragon wrote: What's survivable (for at least a short time)
Arm (as long as it isnt so high up you cant bind it off)
Lower leg (thigh is a fast death as you bleed out through the femoral artery)
A fair bit of damage can be taken to the thorax (as long as something major isn't taken out) - while you will need aid, the internal bleeding isn't immediately fatal.

As an examplemany cases of such injuries caused by machinery have involved people walking (sometimes taking a considerable time) to get help.

Its suprising how much damage a soft squishy human can take, sometimes.

Indeed, The human body is both amazingly resilient and amazingly fragile all at once.

There are cases of people being struck by trains and surviving for a time with their body literally twisted...well until the body is allowed to untwist. Then there are cases of people ending up dead from what should have been a very minor impact (like tripping and falling, resulting in hitting your head on the floor). I do recall some incredible survivor stories that are well documented. There was a female that suffered an internal decapitation and lived...which just typing that line seems wrong. There is also at least one case of a person being cut in half by a train and surviving. The strangest has to be the person that was under water for over an hour and had a body temperature of 66 degrees that survived. As I recall the report on that, she didn't drown because she essentially froze to death, but doctors were somehow able to revive her after several hours. I don't even want to think about how one would write up that for a medical record for a living person.

Actually there are several examples of survivors being pulled out of the ice, the hypothermia if it doesn't kill you, will save you, if you are lucky. The drastically slowed body functions basically put the body in a short term, crude and dangerous form of stasis, if you are young, healthy, and lucky enough, I think you can survive a few days, barely, with really on the ball EMS,

I'd have to go do some research, but the case I was thinking of, if I recall correctly was a very young child. I think is was in the mid-80's. However, I do not recall ever hearing of someone surviving for days. I would think brain death would set in by that point, as if I recall my training correctly, you start losing brain cells in as little as 5 minutes without oxygen (though some folks do have a higher tolerance). I am not certain of the times, but I believe 12 hours was the upper limit for any chance of resuscitation if memory serves.

MM2ss wrote: ... if I recall my training correctly, you start losing brain cells in as little as 5 minutes without oxygen (though some folks do have a higher tolerance). I am not certain of the times, but I believe 12 hours was the upper limit for any chance of resuscitation if memory serves.

Five minutes or less at an adult body's "normal" metabolic demand.

Free divers and very young chidren seem to get the most from the mammalian diving reflex. Considering that the chemical reactions that power voluntary muscle use are optimized for an average human body temperature it might as well be a five minute limit, as the drowning victim is going to be in no condition to help themself.

I believe the saying in the northern latitudes is you're not dead until you're warm and dead.

Yup.

Life is just a bunch of chemical reactions and electric pulses. The colder you are, the slower those reactions run and therefor the less resources per second your cells require. Just cooling your core to 82F is enough to cut your metabolic rate in half, and 64F will cut it to 20% normal. Surgeons actually use this to let them operate while the heart is stopped without having to hook the patient up to a pump.

The problems begin when you get near freezing and the water in your cells starts to crystallize, rupturing the cells (aka frostbite). As long as you don't hit freezing, you can potentially be revived. Past freezing, you're pretty much fucked. Though the cryonicists are working on that, at least for controlled freezes. There's a technique called vitrification that allows you to cool organs and such to well below freezing without ice forming, but it requires either absurdly rapid cooling or else the use of chemical preservatives that work like antifreeze -- which can themselves damage tissues. There's also concern about whether there might be more going on inside brains (e.g. electrically) that this wouldn't preserve. On the plus side, the technique has been used to bring a rabbit kidney down to -135 C before warming it up and transplanting it successfully into a live rabbit. So it might be possible, and if not, at least it will be useful for organ donation.