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Question Glyph 3 : Ink in her Veins!
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also since it is mentioned in passing in the story if you happen to be in Chicago and are looking for a deep dish pizza to eat Gino's East is good. However, Giordano's I think is better. Since I grew up on the South Side, because despite its name Gino's East is a North Side pizza joint. Boo Cubs. Go Sox.
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Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.
Glyph 3: Ink in her Veins Part 1 comments
Nearly all the inks, chalks, and paint contain some of her blood, good for her magic, bad if someone gets ahold of them and use it against her. And of course, she knows this risk of using her own blood. Nice means of cleaning the blood so nothing is less, plus wonder how long until she has the skill needed to cast that spell. And very nice, less essence used, love seeing Bianca think ahead.
Wonder where Bianca's private lab will be and who she will deal with to get it. Awww, tensing up around Racoon, thinking every one of the Bad Seeds was involved with the attack by Beatdown, *sigh* Trying to figure out what to do as retaliation for what the Bad Seeds did, not acting because she fears it will make things worse. If only someone in the Bad Seeds could contact her and inform her who sent Beatdown after her without the others approval, it would save a lot of trouble and pain.
At dinner with her friends, describing each of them and their quirks. Morgana, Laura, Bailey, and her friend Janine. Aww, in her head she is Bianca's personal assistant, but a good friend and not caring who her grandmother was, wonder if Janine will stumble upon the Poe secret. Not especially powerful gadgeteer, I've seen some dangerously complicated domino chains and Rube Goldberg machines, I wouldn't underestimate her if she has time to prepare.
Now I'm curious to see what Janine has come up with. A better way of delivering coffee in the morning, Morgana you goof. Rosie the robot, nice Jetsons reference. Laura babysitting again, and heh, sound dampening ward to block out most of Morgana's snoring, could use one of those wards.
Figures Bianca saw through the fact Hikaru is putting on a mask. Ooo, nice small safe, Tessa sends good gifts. Hoping $200 is enough and that is only a piece of the stack of money, wish I had that kind of allowance. Cherry Bomb, interesting girl with her mix of traits, specialization in explosives and a member of the Cape Squad, yet friendly to Bianca.
Cherry Bomb's roommate, is she a fixer or is Bianca there for another reason? Scrye, exemplar with those looks and a magic user, and an information broker, very interesting. Ah, so she doesn't know what brought Bianca to her, I guess she doesn't know the connection between the attack by Beatdown and the idiot in the Bad Seeds yet. All that information about the Bad Seeds, yet nothing about inquiring as to who outed her, *sigh* Information on how to activate a magic amulet, that could be a lot more dangerous than it sounds if Scrye finds the amulet.
Nightmare, based on the theme, reliving that over and over, it is going to be a long time before the nightmares end or become rare, isn't it. Bianca is lucky to have Morgana as her roommate, being trapped in a nightmare and unable to wake up is torture. Day room to read a book on Romani runes, guess when you can't sleep that is one way to wind down. Yikes, the series of runes not making sense, wonder who else has read this book over the years. Darn, broken spell she can't use, would have been interesting.
Ooo, now that is a spell rune which could have many uses, not just on a safe. Poor Bianca, trying not to stare at Flower and Laura, needs to get over that shyness while in the showers. And ouch, Bianca having that much trouble with the changes to her body, I thought she was doing better than this before we got her inner dialog.
Instant drying after a bath or shower, so many different ways to achieve it, wonder if someone has invented a devise yet that would do the same thing without harming the user. Saturday classes, out of all the things about Whateley that is still the hardest thing for my brain to get used to.
Scrye works fast, folder with info on the Bad Seeds dropped off already. At least she now knows the truth from the rumors, important when dealing with opponents. Darn, Bianca not wishing to go to the party, after what happened to her family at the last party she went to. Not wishing to go to any party ever again, she needs to talk to a counselor about this.
Black Cauldron rootbeer, wonder if it tastes better than the other rootbeer I've tried. Rereading books after manifesting as a mutant, guess it gives her a different perspective on things in the books. Chicago style pizza, now you've made me hungry. Explaining to Chessa why she is rereading the books, interesting reason to. Movie of the first book and actually looking forward to seeing it, no accounting for taste.

Rushing to see Janine down in the labs, worried about walking across campus alone, having to put on that act just because she is the White Lady, I would have used the tunnels. Those who think of themselves as 'good guys' judging her like that, hopefully they'll learn better in their time at Whateley.
Janine at a workstation in the labs, along with Giggles, hope Giggles will get over being a bit cool and distant to Bianca. Shock glove, always a nice weapon to have. A remote control car as a base and domino setter on top, interesting. Setting up dominos that fast, even if it can only do 4 feet a time, is impressive.
Laura switching out batteries on her neural neutralizer, wonder how many shots it can get before needing to switch out. Karma, little girl with gray eyes and long dark hair, sneaky little kid to swipe stuff so she can 'play' with them. At least Laura is good with young kids. Ouch, Karma only 7 and already manifested, supposedly a mangler. Knocked over a paint rack and not a drop of paint on her, has to be a mangler. Samantha Harris aka Tek Rider from Melville, wonder what her specialization is. Hehehe, love the cute banter Bianca has with her friends. And nice to see Giggles warming up to Bianca again, she needs all the friends she can get.
Clive Franks aka Beatdown, he actually likes the image he has. Shades is his roommate, talk about complete opposites, at least physically. Huh, Clive is a different kind of bully, not going out of his way to pick on some kid who can't fight back. Pure black with silver irises, no wonder he wears shades. Teleporting a poor boy onto Slyme, a thornie girl, from above and splattering her, Shades is a real creep.
At least Clive is shuddering when he sees Bianca now, wonder if that means he is smart enough to leave her alone now. Terrified after what Glyph did to him and suggested she could do, now that is fear. *sigh* Wanting to be a mob tough guy, just because he doesn't wish to work hard for a living like his dad did. Shades basically banned from Las Vegas, talk about screwing up. *facepalms* I can't believe Shades thinks trying to get in good with Bianca so they can be a part of the Family is a good idea, there is cocky and then there is just plain dense.
Melody Sheridon aka Chained Melody, in Venus Inc. and Melville, no wonder she has such an attitude problem. Kim Hashida aka Perfume, it figures Melody would think quitting Venus Inc is a waste. Carrie Harper aka Mouse, newest member of the Spy Kids, guess they've never shaken that nickname. Using the Spy Kids for her own plot, Melody is going to regret that. Using her magic to make others more open and trusting with her, when she is caught that is a big ethics violation.
Ouch, poking at a sore point for poor Mouse, Melody is a truly manipulative b. Manipulating Mouse against Bianca, ugh. And the Spy Kids are repeating the mistakes of the older generation, doing an investigation on a fellow student without staff approval. Trying to get her kicked out of school, hope it backfires and they get punished themselves. Melody is the kind of b I wish would get caught in her web of lies and manipulations.
Basic Martial Arts, she needs to learn powers aren't everything and take the training to heart. At least Bianca knows Tolman sets everyone up against opponents they seem to have no chance again and doesn't take it personally, some students would. Aww, having to go up against Bacon, he is a nice guy but I can see the challenge against a PK brick for Bianca. *chuckles* Love Bacon's sense of humor about his GSD.
Bacon is a smart opponent, nice to see a PK brick who doesn't just charge in, especially a freshman this early in the school year. Getting Bacon to look at a piece of paper to blind him with a flash of light from the rune spell, nice. Strong not to get pushed out of the circle, and Bianca hurt worse than him by her own fire rune spell, ouch. At least Bacon just dropped her out of the circle, really nice guy.
At least Bianca has regen enough to heal from the burn quickly, and trying not to rely on her built-in spells as much is a good idea, but not if it risks harming herself in the process. Great, Mouse giving Bianca the stink-eye now, as if she doesn't have enough pain-in-the-necks to deal with.
AJ sparring with Rapunzel, Bianca knows he is a member of the Bad Seeds and wonders how AJ deals with this kind of attention. She needs to talk to AJ about the Bad Seeds and her being outed before it is too late. Everyone so concerned about Bianca and also telling her to be more careful, even Bacon saying he is sorry, kid is too nice for his own good almost.
Lunchtime right after BMA class, Bianca, Morgana, Laura, Erica, Callie, Jimmy, and Vic all heading to the Crystal Hall together. Make her own paper, teasing by Laura on if there is a course on making papyrus, though I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least a special class on that.
Beatdown and Shades heading towards them, can't believe they are actually doing this. Beatdown actually apologizing for his actions, trying to say it wasn't personal but he regrets taking that job. Earn her trust by telling who sicked you on Bianca. Offering to be her hired goons basically but she says she doesn't need it. At least Laura sees the trouble having henchmen could bring Bianca. Morgana, why! Sometimes teasing can go too far.
Magic Lab, most of the more interesting magic wielders have one or more quirks with their powers. Creating some basic wands, each going about their wards in their own way. Bianca can't cast out loud, but how fast she can get things done with drawn runes and circles is very impressive. A magical tripwire, dang. Nice demonstration of tripping the wards as well. At least one improvement on your wards, sure can't say Magic Lab is an easy class.
AJ confronting Bianca about asking questions about the Bad Seeds around campus, and finally AJ reveals that Esquire outed Bianca and sent Beatdown after her on his own. Glad to hear AJ say he thinks of Bianca as a friend, she needed to hear that.
Bwhahahaha, too good."Are you saying I don't treat my minions well?" I asked in mock innocence. Morgana snorted. "You'd probably forget to feed and water them..."
Okay, we need a drawing of some of her minions done up like Minions now."Sometimes, I forget that you really do have your own minions..." That just made me smirk. "And sometimes, I even paint them yellow and make them wear overalls..."
Janine's PK might not be that impressive, but I would love it when walking through forests or muddy areas. Tinker, forgot that was her codename. Aww, Janine pushing herself to get stronger. *sigh* Acting like Bianca's assistant isn't helping, Bianca coming up with appointments just not to disappoint Janine won't help. Facade now with purple skin and a pair of horns, that girl can confuse people easily. English and Algebra in common, good to have friends in the same classes. *sigh* Can't even escape the minion rumors in Poe.
Poor Carrie, low self-esteem and shy, along with the power to shrink. Even ignored by the other Spy Kids, now that is harsh. David Nayer aka Cyber Swarm, is the official leader of them now, but more interested in his micro-drones, no wonder they are such a mess. Perfume, so that is the source of her scent, any scent she wants could be useful and dangerous. And 2nd in charge of them, why does that give me a bad feeling.
Edward Temple and Caroline Voight, Mister Blank and Miss Violet, British couple and did they take those names from the Clue game or what. Old-fashioned cane umbrella, he plays up the British spy to a tee. Violet hair and gold eyes, plus wearing a dark purple catsuit, these two are playing up to the original Avengers show. Ugh, an exemplar, paragon and a know-it-all showoff, just great.
Flipside, doesn't know what his powers are beyond being a reality warper, oh boy. Tiptoe, only a few days more seniority over her in the group yet they take him more seriously than Carrie. This group seems worse than Gen 1 Spy Kids and don't seem to like each other than much except for the couple who like each other, ticking timebomb imo.
Edward putting down Slyme for being a thornie, Flipside and Carrie thinking she would be a good Cadet. Goo girl, Edward called her goo girl and says they need to maintain high standards for membership, sounds more like he is a GSD bigot. Hehe, Flipside calling him John Steed and Caroline Emma Peel, love it. And Violet agreeing with her boyfriend, ugh.
Perfume has a point, is Slyme interested in joining this group. Cyber Swarm curious how she maintains her humanoid shape, at least he finally paid attention. And Perfume finally ends the conversation, at least she has a level head out of the group, or so it seems so far. Ongoing investigations of the Bad Seeds and Masterminds, along with Bianca now. And we find out why Carrie joined the Spy Kids, seems like a stupid reason to without at least talking to Bianca about the matter herself first. Plus considering the new headmaster a supervillain when he is retired, Mouse is going to get herself into a lot of trouble at this rate.
Mrs. Horton takes bugging Poe personally, pity the Spy Kids if she finds out they tried. Cyber Swarm planting passive recording devises on Bianca and Morgana, this group is as bad as the original Spy Kids if not worse. Thinking because she goes to all that trouble to prevent snooping that Bianca has something to hide, doesn't give them the right to spy on her without staff permission.
At least Perfume doesn't agree, sees attempts to ensure privacy not evidence of wrongdoing. Learn what she's up to before it's too late, really don't like Edward or Violet. Make an example out of a criminal so they will be taken more seriously, more like get you all in trouble for harassing a fellow student. Perfume going along reluctantly, if only there was another group she could join instead of this joke who seem to think they are the law.
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Clive Franks, any relation to some other Franks? (I hope you and Elrod don't get into a name war).
I wonder if Bianca has explained her curse to Grimes or any of the other staff.
I'm surprised that she didn't ask Scrye about private labs, although Scrye being in the Magic Arts program might have put her off on that.
Don't Drick and Drive.
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She could probably use some counseling about that specific aspect of her manifestation, and so could Morgana for that matter. But I really like that there are Poesies that struggle in contrast to those who fully embrace it.
Beatdown and Shade are another interesting aspect. Again, a very similar, but also subtle contrast. Esquire wants to take advantage of Bianca to make himself a "made man." Himself. It's for him, using her. But Beatdown knows that he's physically stronger than Bianca, but respects her. Not because of her position, not because of her abilities, which he almost beat, but because she scares him. He respects her. He finds her capable. He wants to be a "made man" as well, but wants to earn it. They're not talking about having Bianca as their avenue to success. They were hoping to earn it. 'If we play our cards right, she might even make us lieutenants.'
If. She might make us.
They're placing all of it in Bianca's hands, not trying to take advantage of her, because she's proven to Beatdown she's worthy of their respect, and now they want to earn her respect back.
I loved this difference from Bianca's last story, where Esquire thinks he's clever enough to use her.
Should we be looking at AJ for a Bianca pairing, or Beatdown...

Shades came off like a jerk, but honestly, the impression I got was he just needed an outlet. Can you imagine someone with his abilities (projective teleporter!) as one of the Loyal?! Active threats dropped directly into one of Bianca's glyphs, Bianca transported around a corner safely in harrowing situations? I know Bianca wants to trust her friends above any potentially selfish minions, but recognize when you have an asset headed your way!
As for the Spy Kidz, I kept thinking...are these the 1960s retro version? Super stereotype nerd tech-guy, prissy British members, femme fatale Perfume...and sure enough, the Avengers references come out. Loved it! Compared to the bumbling overzealous comedy troupe of Gen 1 (masterfully skewered by Imp), the Gen 2 Intelligence Corps seem to be a lot more...together. They're classy, yet also a bit a parody of themselves.
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Katssun wrote: Bianca not being totally comfortable with her change, trying to actively ignore it despite how curious she is about it. She wants to, but she doesn't want to, but she wants to...
She could probably use some counseling about that specific aspect of her manifestation, and so could Morgana for that matter. But I really like that there are Poesies that struggle in contrast to those who fully embrace it.
Frankly, it's rather astounding that Bianca keeps it together as well as she does in regards to her gender, considering there's a rather obvious emotional connection one could draw between her losing everything, and then some. She's not entirely there yet, but I'm certainly impressed.
As for Beatdown and Shades... I wonder if Bianca will eventually end up with a literal training team of prospective henchmen?

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Still not sure what Tolman is trying to teach, especially her, other than don't get in a fight, even if you are trying to protect bystanders. But given her nature, I suspect Bianca will have a hard time keeping from doing that if she is on the spot so to speak.
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Oh yeah! Though to what purpose? Hidden wards? Tripwires? Wards that might not be recognized as wards by other magic users? Hmmm... what other uses might runes hidden in art work have. I bet if she approaches Imp, she will know where to go or the price on a private studio or lab!mhalpern wrote: You know i wonder if the IMPlications of Glyph's art class will involve hiding runes in art, form and function...
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Now apply that to a runed fresco all around a room that Shades can deposit you in.
By the way, be careful how you step across the floor mosaic!

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On a different matter... I notice that there is a student named "Rapunzel" in Gen2.
Too bad Cinderella is a Gen1 character... otherwise they might try to start a combat team called "Disney Princesses."
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“I used a remote control car as a base,” Giggles explained proudly, “and built my domino setter on top of that.”
I'm pretty sure this is supposed to be Janine talking, not Giggles. And you might want to change the speech tag, having Janine explain proudly a couple of paragraphs after Giggles did so doesn't scan that well. that's probably what caused the error in the first place.
Also, the whole idea that the Spy Kids are going off on a wild Goosechase again, had me delightfully flabbergasted. Ditto for the idea that Bianca is going to end up with henchmen whether she wants them or not.
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My guess is that there will always be opportunities where her opponents will catch her without her built-in spells, or any pre-prepared slips, or time to run and set up a rune. Something she should have learned from her grandmother's death. She was still prepared, but The Messenger could only be stopped by conventional means. What if her grandmother had been able to snap both his arms with a jujitsu hold? Bianca needs to learn the old Ito-sensei demonstration that an unpowered individual can hold their own against a powered opponent with the right techniques. Then she can run and find time to prepare or help.Anne wrote: Still not sure what Tolman is trying to teach, especially her, other than don't get in a fight, even if you are trying to protect bystanders. But given her nature, I suspect Bianca will have a hard time keeping from doing that if she is on the spot so to speak.
She is essentially a baseline without time to prepare. It's not impossible for her to gain the skills she needs.
Again, I think back to her grandmother's death. The floor tiles of the mansion ballroom had an extensive system of runes in it, but only for a single explosion. But what if every painting, every woven fabric (e.g. tablecloths, curtains), even every wallpaper pattern in her residences had a variety of runes hidden within? Versatility, variety, the element of surprise. Bianca would be able to IMProvise during any assault.mhalpern wrote: Harder to copy, identify without mage sight or when inactive, far more discreet, many reasons for hidden runes
The administration knows she is restricted to drawn magic. There's almost certainly a reason that Imp is her adviser beyond that Morpheus writes both characters.
Now I'm thinking of Imp being her adviser for another reason. Imp has firsthand experience of having an enemy one day be someone she hired at a later date. She didn't hold it against him when he attacked her, and she didn't hold a grudge. It was all down to professionalism. Like you said, business is business. She should recognize that Beatdown was hired, and not hold it against him now that he wants to enter her employ because she made an impression.Anne wrote: I agree with you there Sir Lee, I'm just saying that she shouldn't reject their offer out of hand. She does need to learn that for certain values of the word, business is business. IOW Breakdown didn't attack her because it was his nature, or because he disliked her, he did it because it was a job he had been hired to do. Actually get both him and Bacon together, train them with Shades. Very nice last layer protection in my mind.
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One way to fight them is to go the other way. Play the role so over the top and ridiculous that people feel silly taking them seriously.
Now if this had happened in Generation one this is how Jade might have handled it if Bianca had been a friend of hers.
I wonder if Bianca has any friends who not only can think out of the box but outside the warehouse, the box is in.
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Anne wrote: In my mind, of the two, Shades is quite a bit better, as far as a power set for what Bianca needs.She would need to find him some other entertainment besides harassing people. Other wise she becomes in essence the sponsor of a bully. Now Breakdown? Maybe eventually use him as a visible bodyguard if she has someone like Shades to function as 'knock back', that is someone who can push attackers away from her. Her problem right now is that she is terribly squishy, except for her regen. If I read the story correctly she has almost no ranged attacks, or even defenses. She needs to think beyond her FUD spell that keeps people from eavesdropping on her, she needs an almost permanent shield that will deflect small arms fire, or keep her from taking the full force of a blunt or sharp object in the hands of another person.
Still not sure what Tolman is trying to teach, especially her, other than don't get in a fight, even if you are trying to protect bystanders. But given her nature, I suspect Bianca will have a hard time keeping from doing that if she is on the spot so to speak.
No, Bianca has quite a few ranged attacks - her 'built-in' runes.
It's Morgana who has none at all.
However ranged spells is a part of the magic syllabus.
I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
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Man, the Seeds need to think about searching a pretet to kick Gideon ot of thir club sooner or later. I mean compare that little stnt to the things Nephandus pulled out, and the guy was the joke/load member of the club in his generation. And even he would play with them sometimes (Kerry, Big Idea), Nephandus was never stupd enough to break them, or ignore the oldest rule of any activity ever 'Don't shit where you eat'. Maybe the benefit of Daddy being a black market broker of magical artifacts, since you won't sell that much if you don't have at least a modicum of professionalism.
Gideon comes off far more like a thug, and a dumb one. Even if his harebrained plan had worked, how the heck did he exactly epected to use Bianca as his new bank account like he thought? Or how would he have dealt with the revelation of his little scam if it had succeeded? Because he clearly didn't think about it there, and it shows a serious level of incompetence.
But the main reason I think they should think about expelling him is the fact he was ready to do that duck to a potential member, and would have probably continued once she was a member to use her resources for his personal benefit. If I was any of the other Seeds, I'd worry about the moment Gideon decides he wants to strongarm them for something too. Not because he would succeed, but because he's clearly willing to cause a lot of trouble to try to get what he wants. Once again, even Nephandus wasn't dumb enough to try something like that, and if I remember it right, there are mentions it's not even the first time Gideon tries something like that.
Exactly how long will it take for him to either damage the Seeds' reputation to a point kicking him out is the more attractive way to deal with it, or before the other members decide Gideon trying to leech on them more or less violently and potentially outing informations about them or blackmailing them is unacceptable.
And the Secret Squirrels... I'm not sure I like what it could tell about me, but sometimes, I get the impression a statement should have been done by the administration there at a moment or another in the school's history. Take a particulary egregious Squirrel (must not be that hard if G1 is standard behavior), and... just throw the book at them. Rise all the times their surveillance broke the limits and the law, like Imp did (and she only had her case to lambaste them, imagine what the pileup could look like), and just expel them have them face the criminal charges involved.
Maybe an actual example of how exactly the law sees their little antics and the consequences they have in Real Life would stomp out the would-be the egomaniac Dirty Harry imitators loosers who seem to form the bulk of the club (No, I don't have a particular bone against Ace beyond the usual Squirrels shenanigans, people. How could you think that?). The main objection I have here would be that with the way mutants are seen, it would be not only bad press when it's not needed, and most above a almost certain death sentence for whoever would have ended up expelled.
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I didn't think to put it quite like I did above, but you have the gist of it. That is that the Intelligence Cadet Corps is actually encouraged, subtly and otherwise by the faculty to run operations. There are people out there among the student population up to no good that the administration, and even the security section doesn't have the resources or reach to find. Of course they being youngsters, and having their own sets of prejudices, will hare off on their own after imaginary foes (at least what they think their foes have done is imaginary) regardless of their target(s)' guilt, innocence or ability to squash them like bugs!Kettlekorn wrote: The Spy Kids are an important part of the curriculum for the rest of the student body. The world is full of nosy perverts with no concern for the law. If you don't bother to learn that and figure out how to take appropriate countermeasures, you inevitably end up with people leaking your nude selfies, your admissions of sexual harassment, and your strategies for rigging your own primaries. Thanks to the Secret Squirrels and all the other folks doing espionage around campus, Whateley alumni know better than to expect secrets to remain secret without extraordinary care.
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I didn't think to put it quite like I did above, but you have the gist of it. That is that the Intelligence Cadet Corps is actually encouraged, subtly and otherwise by the faculty to run operations. There are people out there among the student population up to no good that the administration, and even the security section doesn't have the resources or reach to find. Of course they being youngsters, and having their own sets of prejudices, will hare off on their own after imaginary foes (at least what they think their foes have done is imaginary) regardless of their target(s)' guilt, innocence or ability to squash them like bugs!Kettlekorn wrote: The Spy Kids are an important part of the curriculum for the rest of the student body. The world is full of nosy perverts with no concern for the law. If you don't bother to learn that and figure out how to take appropriate countermeasures, you inevitably end up with people leaking your nude selfies, your admissions of sexual harassment, and your strategies for rigging your own primaries. Thanks to the Secret Squirrels and all the other folks doing espionage around campus, Whateley alumni know better than to expect secrets to remain secret without extraordinary care.
(Dang I need a way to post more regularly on this forum).
The makeshift overwatch help you mention, Anne, I get it, it even happens in the Big Idea. But I still get the idea the administration is quite slow to hammer down the Squirrels' problems. From the way they reacted to Imp's accusations, I got the impression nobody really bothered to point out the legal consequences of their acts. And the effectiveness of that angle seemed quite clear, especially against little overeager idiots who seem to mostly consider themselves as future James Bond/Dirty Harry and seem to behave in some ways like the Cape Squad recon club you talked about, and do not seem to include any vocation for the... seedier jobs you mentionned earlier on this thread. I get the impressions these ones would go to hte Masterminds... or CORE.
Lastly... Where are you going exactly, Kettlekorn? Because the nosy pervert part... Just duh. Paparazzis are as obvious as possible, and in the Whateley setting, it's painfully obvious to anybody that mutants have to expect the law dead-set against them. Of course surveillance is included there. But the idea of using the Squirrels to enforce that lesson, creating a really toxic approach to surveillance amongst many students and future alumni wanting to go into law enforcement, without talking about the fact they almost exclusively hit Bad Seeds, ignoring almost anybody else, instead of trying a more official and thought-out approach to the problem feels... insanely stupid to me. And I get the impression you think that too with the sarcasm about the 'secrets' to protect. I mean, nude selfies, I can understand, (though I doubt you'd have ones without reasons specific enough that safekeeping enters the 'duh' territory), but the other ones? Last thing I'd want is fro things like that to remain secret.
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And sure, the Squirrels are biased, but they're not the only people involved in the espionage game. The would-be heroes have to contend with the Masterminds and sometimes the Bad Seeds in lieu of the Spy Kids. Lots of other people spying on folks at Whateley too. Peeper and Greasy come to mind, and you never know who's lurking in the bushes. CIA, IRS, Ito...
There are classes people could take about this, but the advantage in leaning on inter-student espionage to teach students how to cope is that they'll actually give a shit. Send all your students through a mandatory counter-surveillance class, and most aren't going to learn much. Give the wannabe spies a bit of slack in their reins, and you'll see much better results as people scramble to find ways to maintain their privacy. Plus, Whateley sort of serves as a safe microcosm where young mutants can test stuff out without life-shattering consequences if they screw it up (usually, anyway). They need to have that incentive and opportunity to practice with the training wheels on, and the sims aren't enough. Security is something you live, not just something you employ during an op.
Of course, the spy wannabees have lessons to learn as well, which is why the administration periodically cracks down on them without ever quite disbanding them.
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Kettlekorn wrote: They need to have that incentive and opportunity to practice with the training wheels on, and the sims aren't enough. Security is something you live, not just something you employ during an op.
I'd love to see a sim or a crash with a trace/track and retrieve/steal.
All the experience of an objective gone horribly wrong, but without the potentially very dire consequences.
Maybe some of the MMM could get a practice run, since they signed themselves up as a training team and eventually the administration may notice. Or they could learn from the example of Lanie/Kayda/Tansy.
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Actually hit him in the jaw, but for naught. And Crysis proves what a creep he is, bringing up the Messenger like that. And Bianca is finally starting to wonder how Crysis knows about the Messenger, through his father and I hope Bianca learns that soon. Built-in fire spell to get his distracted and release his hold on her, nice. A TK without enough control to use it for defense, now that has to be a sore point for him.
Holding her in the air and squeezing so she has a hard time breathing, sick punk. The idiot actually steps on the spell slip Bianca dropped on the floor at the beginning of the match, always watch where you step. And built-in air spell to blast the thug into the capture cage, nice. Nice to have her first win in BMA, especially against Crysis. Yet Crysis talks about Scorn coming for Bianca right to her, he is in so much trouble once it is found out he endangered a fellow student by revealing their location to someone who is trying to kill them.
And now poor Bianca is scared, knowing Crysis has some connection to Scorn and that Scorn is coming for her, she can't catch a break. And they are right about even the Syndicate going after anyone who messes with Whateley, but Scorn seems like the arrogant kind of criminal who thinks nothing can touch him.
Beatdown and Shades watching students walk past in the Quad, and Clive regretting a missed opportunity to become part of the Family. Twitch skipping past and Shades ignoring her guess he is smart enough not to mess with a Bad Seed. Ah, messed with her before and got a warning from the Seeds, no wonder he leaves Twitch alone now. *facepalms* Hear some jerks badmouthing Bianca and Shades thinks they should do something to show their worth. These idiots are going to get Bianca in more trouble.
Spy Kids at their HQ and staring at photos of Glyph, most extremely blurry but a few good ones, rats. Flipside calling her creepy, ugh. And Miss Violet's comments about her appearance, want to smack her one. At least Perfume proves to be a good leader, no judging innocence or guilt off how a suspect looks. And they are using Beatdown and Shades actions as evidence without asking Bianca if they actually work for her, poor detective work to believe someone's claims of working for another without proof.
All of Cyber Swarm's drones look like insects and arachnids, no wonder they get destroyed so much. Mouse heard mention of the Messenger in BMA and Perfume knows who he is, great. Idiots, jumping to the conclusion she hired the Messenger to kill her own grandmother and family. At least Perfume won't move in without enough evidence, though any evidence they get which they use against her will probably be taken severely out of context.
With Janine's help, Bianca is cutting card stock down to the right size for spell slips, and also why a smear or smudge on a written spell is so bad, yikes. And nice size to make the cards, plenty of room to fit a lot of writing and detail on something that size. Wonder how many prepared spells she can have now, carried like a deck of cards no less. Janine coming off like a tomboy and girl next door, some guys like girls like that more than supermodel types.
So primal runes can be fairly powerful but really focused and not very flexible, with her style she needs flexibility in the spells she uses. Good protection and wards, spells that are subtle or low power side, all good things to have, flashy, noticeable, and powerful aren't always as helpful as the more subtle spells. Carved in marble, etched in gold and sit for a whole year before being used, dang.
Good penmanship the secret to powerful magic, heh. Basic ward spell linked to primal rune for fire, very nice. Drawing the rune herself part of the ritual to cast the spell, good thing it requires that, imagine someone making a printing press to sell spell slips en masse otherwise. A domino chain with spells, interesting idea, but sounds like a lot of work for little return. A joint project between Bianca and Janine, oh boy. Wonder what Scrye will say about Crysis, and Deci needs to learn not to talk about people behind their backs. Suggesting Janine is a changeling like that because she is a tomboy, her thinking she is being called crazy as if she doesn't get enough from other gadgeteers and devisors as it is.
Magic Theory with Morgana and AJ. Melody, Antionette, and Estelle aka Chained Melody, La Mage Blanche, and Hermione, three mean girls who need to have their egos smacked down hard. Whispering and snickering, while starring at Bianca and Morgana, Grimes is going to be angry when she catches them. And Melody talked Weaponeer and Photech into going after Bianca, at least she knows it now thanks to AJ.
Melody spreading the rumor about Bianca sending thugs to beat up anyone who badmouths her. But says it so loud Mrs. Grimes hears her, mock innocence, ugh. Calling Bianca a criminal and freak, she doesn't know what Whateley is really like yet, hope her delusions come crashing down soon. And love Penny Dreadful's 'zombie' brushing up against Melody as she leaves the classroom, hehe.
BMA and dealing with Crysis again, hate thugs who think they have power. Mouse glaring at her too, great. At least they can joke about all the attention Bianca is getting. And now her friends know Crysis knows things from Chicago no one at Whateley should know besides Bianca. Darn, few answers from Scrye's info folder on Crysis. Oh boy, she learned enough, knows he is from Chicago and his dad works for Scorn. Bianca, just because security didn't tell you about another student doesn't mean they know everything about them.
Ooo, free lab period to work on experiments of their own in Magic Lab, fun. Setting up a domino chain of runes, I pity the fool of trips that. A series of wards into a simple chain, all due to the idea of Janine's. All charged without setting any of them off, an impressive feat. Darn, broken eight steps in due to a smudge. A chain of runes going off like that would be very handy for security, especially if each triggered spell does something different.
And nice to see a student who is wary of jumping ahead and being careful before they work something out. Twitch waiting for someone, Racoon there with her wishing to talk to Glyph. Hehehe, Twitch doesn't like being called a munchkin. Racoon uses coins as spell slips, no wonder Bianca got nervous when he pulled one out. Racoon telling her the same thing AJ did, Esquire acted on his own and they didn't find out until it was too late.
Having how the Bad Seeds operate spelled out by Racoon, hope she believes him. Iron Bell is Esquire's mom, a brick who likes to punch before thinking, big sis is Leveler and the same, one of the founding members of the Amazons, yikes. Not the first of his schemes to backfire, guess Esquire doesn't learn quickly.
Twitch with the magic eight ball is cute, and I wouldn't need one of those to know Esquire will keep messing with Bianca. And Esquire is on his own if Bianca comes after him, as long as she leaves the rest of the Bad Seeds out of it. Twitch is so cute, interested in Glyph's magical writing. And a warning from Racoon about the Secret Squirrels nosing around her business, he really is a nice guy. At least this mess is over now, Bianca only has to deal with Esquire.
Dang it, wish I could eat in their cafeteria for that dinner, sounds so good. Last to arrive for dinner, that is a first. And a spell card to keep from being spied on, nice to see another generation learning the wisdom of such a trick. Erica thinking they are spying on her as well, doubt it, too good a cover story for Erica. And a nice description of the Spy Kids by Decibelle fits this generation and Gen 1 as well. Jimmy, they may be training to be in law enforcement, acting like they are already law enforcement is another thing.
Tavi in that outfit, so funny. Now Sherlock Holmes, missed the little goofball. Crushed cockroach by Erica and it is one of Cyber Swarm's drones, that one is just plain stupid.
At least the spell was still working."It looks like someone was trying to bug us," I said wryly.
Ooo goodie, might see someone behinds Imp read the Spy Kids the riot act over all the laws they are breaking and what could be done to them over it."I might not be an expert or anything," I pointed out in annoyance. "but I believe any legitimate criminal investigation requires warrants, oversight, and official authorizations. Somehow, I don't think this club has any of that."
Good, Jimmy sees it as stalking and harassment, guess he won't be joining those idiots in the Spy Kids. Going to security over this, I have to agree with Bianca, they probably won't do anything. Good idea by Bianca, common sense is a superpower and she has it in spades. Warding Erica's dorm room, at this rate the Spy Kids are going to get frustrated and make mistakes.
And getting advice on how the Bad Seeds deal with the Spy Kids from AJ, Bianca keeps impressing me. Getting to the library without trouble is one thing, getting back when it is darker is another. 6'6" and golden metallic skin, worse GSD to have though I bet he hates all the jokes. The thoughtful way he is watching Bianca, curious, trouble or no. Edward Lowe, the Golden Lion, a senior, interesting. Whoa, used exemplar brain to become like the Gen 2 version of Ayla, investing in some gadgeteers' inventions.
All that reading for nothing, wish she could find magic books with spells that require more written components instead of verbal. Grandmother's library in her old house, so much Bianca could gain by going there, but the trauma will keep her away for now. Esquire standing there and waiting for her as she goes to leave, talk about an arrogant SOB. He calls what he did to her a misunderstanding, he needs to have a lot of sense smacked into him.
The idiot actually is trying to ask Bianca to be allies, arrogance doesn't seem a strong enough word anymore. She tries to walk off and he grabs her by the arm, that right there is assault. Uses her air spell to blast him off her and back, Esquire is so arrogant he thinks no one can treat him like that no matter what he did to deserve it. Learn to respect your betters, anyone who says that needs a serious beatdown.
Ferrokinetic and only trying to bruise her, his attitude cheeses me off. With those ball bearings he could kill her, hope she wipes that smirk off his face. Golden Lion showing up and talks reason to them, security showing up if they keep this up, at least Esquire listens to reason. Esquire acting like brawling is beneath him, darn, really wanting to see Bianca wipe that smug smirk off his face. Continuing this in a more private setting, I don't like the sound of that. And Edward seems like a great guy, hope we see more of him in the future, possibly helping out Bianca.
Crysis seems obsessed with Bianca, calling her a bitch but unable to think about his homework. Nothing personal against her, only considering her his enemy because she is his dad's boss' enemy, he needs to learn to think for himself. And he actually thinks Scorn could act on the information that the new White Lady is at Whateley, okay, he is stubborn and dense. And he wants a reward, recognition from his father, this is only going to end in pain for him.
And can't even see her as an attractive girl because of her skin, oh brother. Dad calls and Scorn can't take direct action against Bianca as long as she is at Whateley, good, he isn't arrogant enough to try it. Just watch and observe Bianca to relay the information to Scorn through his dad, that is going to get to him after a while. Suggesting Bianca suffer an accident while there, foolish to think you can make something look like an accident and not get caught. And Crysis is actually thinking about how to try and pull off killing Bianca and make it look like an accident, idiot.
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I do hope that Bianca does accept Beatdown and Shade's offer. It would-be interesting to see an alternate Bad Seeds group form. Sort of a 'Family In Training' where there isn't any doubt they're going criminal, which you don't get with the seeds or even the Masterminds.
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While that might be something you'd like to see, it isn't what Bianca wants. If I recall correctly she is very reluctant to accept the mantle of White Lady, Indeed, it seems to me that if it wasn't a matter of survival for her to become the White Lady she would abandon it in a heart beat.Katssun wrote: The fact that Crysis is a even thinking about Bianca and himself in a Romeo and Juliet context is telling enough. That could be the beginning of a very weird crush...
I do hope that Bianca does accept Beatdown and Shade's offer. It would-be interesting to see an alternate Bad Seeds group form. Sort of a 'Family In Training' where there isn't any doubt they're going criminal, which you don't get with the seeds or even the Masterminds.
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It's good to see Bianca learning how to expand what she can do with her runes. Too bad she can't consult with Diamondback or Jadis. They were very good with spell cards.
When Bianca finds out about Beatdown and Shade, she needs to have a serious talk, actually Marcus needs to talk to them. I wonder if there is a class on body guarding. They should sign up for it.
Janine needs an AEGIS domino loader. Bianca is going to find her more helpful for ideas, than for paper cutting.
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One way or another, it would be interesting to see Esquire's reaction when she takes away his balls.
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Combine the rust rune and the glue rune to make a super-magnetic rune.
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Edit the scene in my head involves Glyph confronting Crysis with a bucket of popcorn with admin around her... Very intimidating popcorn...
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As for the "attacking a student's family" thing... well, the protection is a bit more limited than that, it's actually an "attacking a student's family as means of pressuring the student". Otherwise, anyone with a kid at Whateley would get carte blanche to do pretty much anything, and trust that the "Whateley Neutrality Accords" would keep his bacon out of the fire. Consider that, say, the Empire City Guard is not barred from attempting to capture Dr. Diabolik just because Dr. Dad has two kids studying at Whateley. It also doesn't protect against random incidents -- the Syndicate wouldn't come as a ton of bricks on top of a mugger who just happened to kill a relative of a Whateley student during a stick-up. They did come as a ton of bricks on the Tong of the Black Madonna, however, because they were attempting to take hostages to put pressure on Bladedancer. Also, it didn't hurt that the Syndicate wanted to get a few brownie points back after the Halloween debacle.
Thing is, Glyph's story acknowledges that there was already a conflict between the Family and Scorn before Glyph ever set foot in Whateley. So Scorn is free to continue his attacks on the Family, as long as he doesn't, say, take hostages and demand that Glyph do his bidding.
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Nice to see Bianca reconciling with the Bad Seeds!
Who else has called her Bia? I don't remember seeing it before.
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*twitch* ... I totally didn't think of the blood as ink for runes in an ink vat / drum, like for a printer, until this part.
And it's right in the title, and she's already mixing her blood into ink... *headdesk sooo much!* ... Was I the first to speculate this?
Autoshape blood if you get cut? Hemokinesis might be a thing Glyph can do? ... Altering her circulatory system into magic symbols would be a bit too dangerous?
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Golden Lion! Soo cool!
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Leveler Info as Original Amazon... Important for later?
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Using Law Of Similarity on the bugs, like Fey did with card readers at Christmas... Only for high level mages? Or just not thought of by Glyph?
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Aww! It's nice how Crysis is told to call his mom, from his dad!
I wonder who she is!
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Not quite that narrow. As a way to harm a student, as a way to get revenge on a student, as a way to otherwise influence a student, or even as a way to force the student out of school are among the others.Sir Lee wrote: As for the "attacking a student's family" thing... well, the protection is a bit more limited than that, it's actually an "attacking a student's family as means of pressuring the student".
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And as for Beatdown and Shades, well they're acting so unprofessional and working against Glyph's aims that she'll have to confront them about it. I'm feeling like she's being pushed into a situation where she'll begrudgingly take them on as bodyguards - especially given the threat that Crysis poses.
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Hmm... AJ X Bianca X Janine? With Crysis as The Jealous One or something?
Beatdown and Shades vs. Crysis?
Or vs. Esquire?
Crysis vs. Esquire or something?
Beatdown and Shades working in the Shadows, and Janine hires them, in secret? Or AJ or something?
Lol at latter as "Hiring bodyguards for my GF".
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Nope, Bianca will never have time to be bored. She will always be too busy trying to fend off unwanted suitors (either for positions as her lover or who want to be her minions) or enemies to be bored!null0trooper wrote: It looks like someone's never going to be bored!
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And still no one outside of Glyph's Crew knows what she really wants...
Janine X Glyph ship... Probability advances, barring a Twist, with that gift giving, etc.
Masterminds' Leader is super surprising... Maybe they hire Shades + Beatdown in trade for getting into the Family...
Still dunno who Crysis's mother is...
I thought it was Esquire who was pairing up. Whoops. So, Masterminds and Spy Kids are Neutrals...
Hmm... Shades + Beatdown are in the area when Glyph gets attacked again? ... So many people to ship and place and stuff!
Will Glyph figure out Blood Ink Spell Slips in her next story???
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null0trooper wrote: Speaking of the Masterminds, the details of Glyph's new private space sound familiar.
I have a feeling that either a former Mastermind, or the Secret Squirrels found themselves trapped in there at some point. There's a good chance that those 2 events were the same room.
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Glyph is busy trying to keep from getting squashed in BMA. Is Janine crushing on Glyph? Too early to tell. Hard to tell if she hasn't figured out that Glyph lives in the LGBTO dorm. Crysis is still hunting and Esquire gets the blame for one of his failures. Not that Esquire isn't eminently dislikable on his own! After all he is a grade A arse.
Okay, nice trap. Not sure it works yet, but definitely makes Esquire more careful. OH No! Crysis and Chained Melody join forces. No honor among thieves. Hope his next gambit backfires and fries both of them!
Now the Masterminds are considering rushing Bianca? Bad or good? Probably not the best that could happen, but the capes never will rush her!
Leaves one wondering if perhaps Rotten to the CORE kept a presence on the campus and if they might recruit as well?
All in all a nice little romp from the pen of Morpheus!
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And once again I'm jealous of Bianca's regeneration. Ouch, burning off that much of Rapunzel's hair, at least she wasn't upset, fast growing hair sounds like a pain to deal with. Seesh, Morgana burned the girl's hair too, effective tactic but man the smell, I've smelt burnt hair before. Gah, just had to mention fireproof shampoo when Rapunzel is in earshot, there goes that tactic.
2 security officers there to bring Bianca to the security office, without giving a reason why. With all the stuff that has happened at Whateley over the years, not sure I would trust them enough to go without friends to watch my back. *facepalms* All this because of those two idiots calming to work for her and what they are doing to other students in her name. Everhart at least is reasonable, even revealing who the two boneheads are to Bianca.
Shades and Beatdown, all because Shades thinks he is smarter than he actually is. Even having a word with Shades and Beatdown might not be enough, Shades will just try to explain it away as Bianca trying to keep plausible deniability to Beatdown once again. Heading to Crystal Hall, expecting what her friends would say, two boys messing with a robot which looks a lot like Number 5 from Short Circuit [nice reference, love that movie]. And Esquire in the area when a metal robot explodes and the head goes flying towards Bianca, ugh, he is going to pay for this one.
Broken collarbone, yikes. And just a few inches closer to her head and it would have killed her. I know the robot was a devise, still think Esquire caused the explosion and the head to fly at Bianca with his power. And so does Bianca, not able to be seen as weak, darn it, how to deal with Esquire is still a problem with no clear solution.
Meeting up with Janine, seeing Kopy showing off his powers and claiming Mimeo is his father, oh brother. Yikes, if he did copy Bianca's 'spirit' what would happen to Kopy, if he could copy it. Awww, Janine worried about Bianca, the guys who were building the robot wish to apologize but intimidated by Bianca. And Bianca not able to let her guard down, poor girl needs a vacation already before she snaps from the stress.
Getting Tek Rider's old lab, Janine has good friends. Darn, too small for her needs. Janine giving Bianca Tek Rider's old lab, how sweet. Hidden behind a secret door in a janitor's closet, now that is one of the more secure lab spaces I've seen. Ooo, how many do know about this hidden lab, probably no freshmen but who else.
Sounds like Janine has a nice place to set up her stuff now, good, sweet girl like her deserves nice things to happen. A room used by some for storage, stuff Janine can use for parts, what a minute, is this that the 'ACID' vat Imp used that one time? A squeal of delight and hugging Bianca, Janine is adorable. Ooo, idea on how to deal with Esquire, this is going to be good.
Carrie shrinking down to a few inches tall to spy on M3, now being stared at by the rest of the Spy Kids. Great, know about Esquire behind the attack on Bianca today and Edward says it's better they go after each other, creep. And they know Bianca has a lab now and Violet thinks she is cooking up evil spells in it, ugh. At least Perfume is being the reasonable one, only wishing to go off information gained from an investigation. Mouse, you are getting yourself in deep.
Crysis thinking about Bianca and what to do, he was the one behind the attack using the robot! I hate telekinesis sometimes, hard to find the real party. Psycho actually tried to kill her and make it look like an accident and is planning on how to do it again. When Bianca learns the truth Crysis better know how to run fast.
Several conversations going on at once, headache time to try and follow them all. Taka and Hikaru talking in Japanese, Vic, and Jimmy talking about something with Tavi being his goofy self, hehe. Tanya, Callie, Erica, and Tia talking about fashion, with focus on Tia, eep. Laura, Morgana, Bailey, and Bianca talking about BMA class. Sparring with a PK super like Cindy Hoffstatter a real pain until you learn some tricks for dealing with them. Miss Omega is her codename, sounds like PK 5 or 6, a lot of power in a small package.
Aww, even though Bianca sparred with AJ and lost she still thinks no amount of practice will improve her hand to hand combat skills. And the old expression comes up again, 'It's not paranoia if they are really out to get you.' Esquire, Crysis, Scorn, Chained Melody and her friends, the Spy Kids, plus Shades and Beatdown being idiots, one more enemy she gets a free dinner.

Bianca, you shouldn't lie to your friends like that, them knowing where you are going to be could save your life if things go wrong. And teasing about working on a project alone with Janine, her friends think they are dating, good grief. Uh oh, talk to Shades and Beatdown in front of everyone and make a scene, with people assuming things, or do it more privately later. Confronts them, spells things out straight in a wall only idiots can misunderstand, so you know Shades will. Hope this works out for her, so many ways it can go wrong though.
Oh, she was working with Janine on her private project, thought that was an excuse to work on it privately. Sitting with Janine at her table with her friends, Giggles, Dorothy Donner aka Dodo, and Amy Pfeiffer aka Blackberry, interesting girls. Even low-level TK like Dodo's can be useful if you are creative. Prepared, when the Spy Kids are being pests you need to counter them somehow.
Half the morning working on that area, just what all did they do besides cleaning? Janine good with cars but doesn't like working on them, oh well. Ooo, clockwork stuff, Blackberry, and Giggles are good, wonder if Janine could do clockwork steampunk type stuff. Sitting down with a good book is always a fun way to relax.
Racoon telling Esquire to let it go, hope he listens to reason. And Twitch is adorable. D'oh, he didn't listen to reason, that boy is dense. Warning him to leave her alone and he still continues to follow, need to name a new, superdense element after Esquire. Leading him along down the tunnels and he figures out she is trying to lead him into a trap, bet he is already in the trap and just doesn't see it.
Thinks just because she is a freshman he can deal with her, talk about arrogance. Trying to blackmail her for his own benefit, he acts refined but is a thug. Getting Esquire to move towards her, telling him to look down, the entire floor of the room covered with glowing runes and glyphs. Middle of a minefield and trigger to set them all off, Bianca is good. All those spells and wards chained together, dang.
Esquire held to the floor while his metal spheres rust and disintegrate, no metal clutter around the room, this is the ultimate trap to use against him. Neutralizing sound and light, unable to move, see or hear, now that is brutal and makes a point. An hour or two to get free of this and out of the room with no light on, if Esquire comes after her after this he is the height of arrogance.
Spy Kids trying to find Bianca's new lab, Carrie, Edward and Violet going in the direction Bianca and Esquire did, they are going to regret this. Down in the tunnels and come upon Weaponeer who demands to know what they are doing down there, Edward erased his short-term memory which I'm sure is against the school rules just so they won't get caught. Even Violet says it was uncalled for when his girlfriend calls him out you know it is bad.
Edward abusing that power might be what causes Violet to break up with him and Carrie to leave the Spy Kids, wonder if he has used it on Violet in the past when she caught him cheating or something else she wouldn't like him doing. Esquire with a look of wild-eyed fear, hope he learned his lesson. And trying to act like nothing is wrong as he walks off, *rolls eyes* And jumping to conclusions about Bianca based on how Esquire is acting, Edward and Violet should know better.
Bianca, you shouldn't feel guilty about luring Esquire into that trap, he wouldn't back off and would have just kept pushing until you snapped and did worse than that to him. Thinking only the White Lady would do that, no, anyone backed into a corner would imo. Hope she is right that Esquire won't retaliate or escalate things to save face. Not wishing to hurt anyone, but might not have a choice, Bianca needs help and to talk about her problems more.
Esquire did do one good thing, forced Bianca to expand her skills which will help her in the future with true threats. Thank you for Janine, dang it, at this rate more than Bianca's friends are going to start shipping these two. Okay, from the response of Esquire to Bianca at dinner it definitely worked and he is scared of her now. Telling Morgana about the trap, how Bianca had to do it on her own to make a point to Esquire. And ouch, lost more than one nights sleep worrying that Scorn and his men could get her at Whateley.
Clive upset, knowing they aren't in the Family and Shades did what I predicted, saying Bianca did it for show, plausible deniability, idiot. Clive thinking Glyph would kill him if she was truly angry at him. Shades is truly an idiot, they are going to make more trouble for Bianca and she is going to have to challenge them to an arena match and beat the crap out of them to make her point at this rate.
Ugh, Shades is an even bigger idiot than I thought, trying to become Bianca's boyfriend, dead man walking.Shades nodded at that, then smirked. "You know, I've been thinking...?" "Why do I have a bad feeling about that?" Clive asked, giving his friend a suspicious look.
Crysis trying to focus on how to deal with Bianca, at this rate he is going to get himself caught trying to murder a fellow student. Chained Melody showing up to talk to him, very bad. Trying to manipulate him so he will get Bianca to leave Whateley, using her powers on fellow students, she is treading on thin ice. Great, these two working together and Crysis thinking he can frame a patsy, thinks just got worse.
Masterminds clubhouse, Helen Cartwright aka Doma Know greeting Scrye and good grief, Doma Know sounds like a girl who would be perfect as a live-action Jessica Rabbit. Bystander sounds like a creep, don't think I want to know what his dark amusements are. Devil's Advocate, wonder what his powers are. D'oh! It just figures Golden Lion is the leader of the Masterminds, too good to be true.
Just a cheap thug at heart underneath it all, hope Bianca doesn't have to learn this about Golden Lion the hard way. Stolen blueprints and blackmail, industrial espionage, great. Swandive taunting Scrye about going for blackmail first, and they are learning from Imp's heist class, great. Hope they aren't as ruthless as Gen 1 who killed someone. Oh brother, they want to recruit Bianca to the Masterminds, Golden Lion making contact her was part of it.
Wanting to use her for her contacts and connections to the Family, ugh. *skin crawls* DA calling Bianca cute is just creepy. Trying to get leverage on Bianca from Scrye, good she keeps the secrets of Poe safe with her. Scrye, giving them that kind of information, when Bianca finds out you just lost her as any kind of ally.
Intense story from start to finish. Bianca learning all these new things, how to make her own ink, chalk, paper, chaining spells together like that and getting her own lab. Finding out the truth that Esquire acted on his own and finally dealing him in her own way, which was epic! Hope she finds out how big a threat Crysis is to her sooner rather than later. Watching Bianca interact with all her friends and learning alongside them is great and I can't wait to read more.
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A great trap, too bad it takes so long to set up.
I don't think Janine is crushing on Glyph as much as idolizing on her.
Don't Drick and Drive.
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Two things wrong Tanya. First, Esquire has the massive disadvantage of being stupider than Nephandus could ever be. Second... Fair fights are for so far invincible dummies who have yet to be burned.
They are only made with the to-go ticket for harming you, namely your blood, in, Bianca. Why would having a private lab for this would be a problem?
See that thing about 'fighting fair'? BMA only cares about the first one, meaning you're more than encouraged to not just shore up your weaknesses in close combat, but actually play up your stregths and tricks. And use them to force-feed some reality in the dummies referenced earlier.
What? You're smarter than the Squirrels, people, or at the very least the bosses– This is about these two morons, right?
Only thing worst than overeager morons looking for cushy life, overeager morons looking for cushy life and thinking they are smart and creative. Ask AJ about Jadis Frost, I'm she'll have pertinent advices for dealing with this situation. Small word of advice, get the word 'subtlety' out of the window when you have these words about them. Not sure how Security would like it, but try busting them, beating them up or reporting them while they're trying that stunt again.
Gideon, that 'I'm not doing anything suspiscious. Like at all.' billboard you're wearing isn't even subtle by your family's standards, without talking about you.
Actually, try the Security, and play up the angle 'I'm too important to squash you myself' or 'See? I'm the criminal and I can get the law enforcement to do my dirty business for me. How much power you think I got to have to make that stunt work?' angles. And I'm sure there are ways your friends can assist, I mean tis moron straight up attacked you. Come on, give the Bad Seeds an actual pretext for giving him the boot.
... That guy from the precedent story... Isn't Mimeo a bit of a show-off himself? One who squeezed everything he could from his time to Whateley, putting him above certain ferokinetics, telepaths or women with a 'adore me' field, but still...
And it seems like show-off or not, this guy's going for it too. Maybe he's right.
I think this girl is thinking about a really close partnership, Bianca. Just a hunch fed by some animes. *Checking things out* Well, at least it doesn't seem like you're inheriting any problem from club affiliations Tek Rider would have for now, so yeah?
Eugh, them. Learning the hard way not going byond the law is a thing, okay but they could at least try to make it regular enough at least one 'year' of the club knows better. I can't believe I'm saying this, but don't you have Bad Seeds and Masterminds to harass?*
Squints eyes* I can just feel the love, Wardo. Shouldn't that sort of falling out prompt more reactions than this?
Perfume, talk to the Imp, it could be quite instructive. And try to get the contact info of a 'Reach'. I'm sure her experience would help you a lot with this crop.
... First above all, you're forcing me to apologize to Gideon for wrongful accusations, and just for that, duck you Crysis. Second, if you think for a second Whateley would have let you get away with this blatant violation of neutrality... And I really think it would happen if next attempt is as blatant, not only because overeager '''deniable assets''' like that are the first step of a processus leading to the neutrality collapsing, but with the blow Whateley took during summer, I'd bet next breach of neutrality would be dealt as ruthlessly as possible to prove they till 'got it'. And the fact you actually thought an investigation wouldn't have spotted you say volumes about the cavity inside your head. Especially when you seem to know Whateley don't tolerate that duck, and the fact only colossal luck meant you haven't be considered as a suspect.
Hoffstatter... Am I imagning the reference to Big Bang Theory there? And don't dismiss Tolman's words, Bianca. Not before seeing a certain Ito in action.
If there was doubts you guys are TK 2.0... only thing needed is to look at the number of your enemies.
No head bashed against a wall until you get bored/asleep... Sorry Bianca, message won't imprints properly.
Try a certain Nikki Reilly for tricks for privacy, Bianca. With additional bonus of torturing your enemies by having them listen about the latest fashions, or anything catching your fancy.
Gideon, first, thank you for showing me that apologize I mentionned is undeserved. Second, your club acquaintances pretty much told you 'nope' to your face. Nephandus is glad the new load is dumber than him, but still, stop digging.
And that sort of short thinking is why you're a thug, Gideon. I mean, walking willingly into a trap only works in movies and the likes, or if you prepared a heck lot in advance. I'm not even sure movies allow you to pull that off without some forward thinking too. And the mistake of thinking these guys see you as a friend is a glaring one too.
Thanks for the demonstration, Bianca.
Meaning you should actually work extra-hard on these detectives skills, if even your clubmates have doubts. Like... Perfume, for instance.
Uhuh, hunches. Tell me, is this guy aware about things like incomplete informations to act on, or howthis sort of vague answers to vague or not so vague questions can e a problem. Someone at Delph had a hunch a great empire would fall if Cresus decided to fight the Persians... What happened to the Lydian Empire already?
... Welp, calling your Wardo was more prophetic than I thought, eh? Same blatant disregard for the mind of others than the walking disco ball. And I'm sure that little trick won't never, never be spotted, because people know that total blanks in their memory in random situations happen all times, and have no connections with the little weasels with memory alterations powers. Carrie, I suggest you definitely join Perfume and jump ship. Fast.
Quick hint, Wardo and Bella (free nickname, Violet): actually ask the question what Gideon did to deserve that.
Nah, any human not liking Gideon, and there are a lot of them, would have lured the guy into the obvious schmuck bait. No White Lady would feel bad about this though, and it tells a lot about you.
Eugh, overeager moron looking for cushy life and thinking he's smart and creative, with the rationalization ability of someone thinking Earth is flat or the Moon landings were hoaxes (the perfect state of mind for a Squirrel). Guess the smashing head idea isn't that ridiculious. In an arena, perhaps. Nonono, Clive, friends burst this sort of total delusion bubble their friends have and try to bring the friend back to reality, especially if you're already thinking 'bad news' when he tells he's thinking. Be that friend, drags him into reality.
You're especially concerned someone no-sold you in front of an entire class, brat. Man, I wish your combat exams involve this sort of things. Sure, do that moron. Then she cracks under pression during interrogation, name you, and your head join the pile of skull named 'Don't Duck with Whateley Neutrality'. I mean, how do you manage to think brainfarts like that next to reasonable things like 'getting her expelled could work better' or 'Don't duck with Whateley?'
Club not officially existing? *reads up* Whew, you aren't CORE, only the Masterminds... Duck, you're the Masterminds, you'll do something stupid... Should we be glad they're showing some brains?
... Is there a club not trying something fishy around Kimbas 2.0? I swear, I bet Tanya's story will involve shenanigans like this with the Cape Squad, without talking about whhat could happen around Backtrack or any of the otherr G2 students. Welp, at least this time the opposition is a clearly smart one. Other question though, what will I nickname you? Wardo just deserves this one, so I need another one for you.
So you want her as banking account, just like Gideon. For some reason I'm really skeptic about your odds of success, despite the fact you're clearly smarter about this than him. Just an intuition.
Well, that wasn't ominous at all, people.
Also, another thing I meant to ask here for a while: does anybody here think the Attack Bitches were already doing brainwashing back when Gideon's sister created the club?
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Or start building a power base of her own.
Some want to exploit her, some respect and support her, and some want to oppose her. It's a very interesting dynamic.\
I also appreciate that, at least for the near term, Bianca isn't thinking about romance in any capacity of any kind. We don't even know which way she leans, if she's thought about it herself at all. And so far, it doesn't feel like she has. She's far too concerned with survival.
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Katssun wrote: I'm really glad that she figured out chained spells across a tremendous area, but I really like that it doesn't help her at all in terms of short-term action like BMA, and she recognizes that. Preparation is always going to be the key to Bianca's niche, but she will still have to account for or learn some method of managing ambushes or other kinds of surprise attacks.
Per the 6-Ps Principle: "Proper prior planning prevents piss-poor performance."
Or, "Ignorance gets ya dead."
Katssun wrote: Or start building a power base of her own.
More necessary preparation for the world she'll be living in. Even amongst the Family, she'll still need people loyal to her, not just the White Lady.
On a side note: I'm now wondering if Bianca's spells are forward-chaining or backward-chaining, and do the procedure calls inplement COME FROM and DONT loops?
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konzill wrote: So who else thinks Janine's capabilities are about to get a serious upgrade as she shifts from being focused on dominos to being focused on insane clockwork?
What can she do with it? What does she need? Clockwork Chainsaw?
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Yan Shi created a man of clockwork construction.
"The king stared at the figure in astonishment. It walked with rapid strides, moving its head up and down, so that anyone would have taken it for a live human being. The artificer touched its chin, and it began singing, perfectly in tune. He touched its hand, and it began posturing, keeping perfect time...As the performance was drawing to an end, the robot winked its eye and made advances to the ladies in attendance, whereupon the king became incensed and would have had Yen Shih [Yan Shi] executed on the spot had not the latter, in mortal fear, instantly taken the robot to pieces to let him see what it really was. And, indeed, it turned out to be only a construction of leather, wood, glue and lacquer, variously coloured white, black, red and blue. Examining it closely, the king found all the internal organs complete—liver, gall, heart, lungs, spleen, kidneys, stomach and intestines; and over these again, muscles, bones and limbs with their joints, skin, teeth and hair, all of them artificial...The king tried the effect of taking away the heart, and found that the mouth could no longer speak; he took away the liver and the eyes could no longer see; he took away the kidneys and the legs lost their power of locomotion. The king was delighted."
If clockwork can create a man, then it can create the far less complex and mundane items in the human inventive repertoire. We have clockwork radios, clockwork toys, clockwork music boxes, even weapons based on clockwork. Imagine the serene scene of Janine setting up a massive domino chain while protected by an army of clockwork automatons armed in divers ways to ward off the various miscreants that previously plagued her while being accompanied by the sweet sounds of Für Elise emanating from music boxes delivering stereo quality sound all without the need for electrical power.
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Like, you could make a clockwork cannon / gun, but would it be better than a regular one, even if Gadgeteer made? Or is Janine a DEV?
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Malady wrote: Well, yeah, but the tech that came after clockwork is better for anything else except massive force transfers, and that it can use basically any material.
How well does that tech interoperate with magical energies and entities? What opportunities could magical and magically-enhanced materials (e.g., adamant) open up for mechanical devices that electronics aren't meant for?
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null0trooper wrote: For one thing, the mental skills needed to account for multiple assemblies operating in concert can also be used to account for multiple groups operating in concert. Logistics is all about getting the right personnel and materiel to the right location at the right time and all pointed in the right direction.
Malady wrote: Well, yeah, but the tech that came after clockwork is better for anything else except massive force transfers, and that it can use basically any material.
How well does that tech interoperate with magical energies and entities? What opportunities could magical and magically-enhanced materials (e.g., adamant) open up for mechanical devices that electronics aren't meant for?
Ceding my point... :clap:
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konzill wrote: Clockwork can be used to build a computer.
While an Analytic Engine would not be better than a conventional computer without DEV enhancements, it would be cool.
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I seem to recall that there is some giant robot that doesn't work right that all the gadget/devisor crowd use to test out concepts on at Whateley... But here, we have a clockwork genius that might conceivably be able to work around those size limitations and make a gigantic robot that runs off of clockwork and perpetual motion concepts... That would give Janine a level of legitimacy and respect that she currently seems to lack with the mechanical crowd. Particularly when you consider that you can get away with more slop in the gears in larger clockwork constructions than you can in the smaller ones.
Then, you have the small scale options... If she does have some affinity for clockwork, as seems to be the case, she may be able to further reduce the size of mechanical clockwork constructs, which has many practical applications. Especially in areas where electronics are discouraged or prohibited. Case in point, some of the newer watches that can do nearly everything a smart phone can do are prohibited in some secure areas. I can only imagine that the state of electronics in the Whateley Universe are far more advanced. If she can make a highly accurate mechanical time piece that can do calculations and such (anyone remember mechanical calculators and computers?), that can work without her having to go and do maintenance on them constantly, she may have a niche market that could provide her with a respectable income in the future. Just think of the level of security you gain when there is no paper or electronic record of the calculations that can be stolen. So for secure research facilities with strict rules, that is a possibility. On the other side, you have the criminal elements that might want to get at that information, but if the defenses prevent the use of electronics...then a mechanical option would be the only alternative (unless you want to include the super brainy types), making the object into something like a time piece would allow it to pass through security unnoticed and be ready for the infiltrator to use. Lastly, there is the survival and military side of things... After an EMP pulse wipes out the electronics, you have to still be able to do things... In the Navy we still train to use sextants for navigation, because sometimes the electrical stuff breaks down... That requires calculations to be made. Other branches could also use it (artillery when figuring out fire missions for example).
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MM2ss wrote: In the Navy we still train to use sextants for navigation, because sometimes the electrical stuff breaks down... That requires calculations to be made. Other branches could also use it (artillery when figuring out fire missions for example).
In the case of LORAN-C in some locations, one can wish it broke down. Either it was a wee bit inaccurate, or we were on one of the US Navy's few landgoing ships.
Picture conning a ship in a busy stretch of international waters, with both ship's gyrocompasses paws-up, and you the JO responsible for that gear.

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Let the RLG really lock in while people are not on point and things can get fun too...or if you get too much accumulation of errors due to pure frequency oscillation.
I think the hardest plotting I ever had to do was not for ship navigation but for weapon navigation. Getting multiple plots for a series of TLAM-C launches was a real pain, and I did not feel particularly well rewarded seeing as I was the backup to the fire control system. Meaning that if all my stuff matched up I got no credit for the work and if anything was different I had to prove I was right and the computer was wrong. Now plotting ADCAP solutions was easy, speed strips and a minute of work tops to have a solution ready to go.
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MM2ss wrote: LORAN-C was broken down...at all times... What was the standard? Something like a 3 mile fix? That's fine in the open ocean...but near the coast or on inland waters, not so much.
Wikipedia claims the over/under was 79m if you were in an aircraft.
The only time I can recall it getting used was in coastal waters with jack for landmarks to shoot bearings to.
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Oh, well, at least they didn't give it a callsign that was as painfully ironic as "Sgt. York" (after the celebrated WWI doughboy known for, among other things, personal frugality and being a crack shot) for an air defense system that couldn't hit a station-holding helicopter at 100m distance and 50m altitude, despite development costs approaching a magnitude over the original budget...
Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
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Back then, a few miles in the middle of no-where was a lot better than a navigator could do on an aircraft. No satellites, or INS.
Mind, the RN never bothered much with Loran, it considered a human navigator more accurate (and unaffected by blown fuses!)
We did make use of Decca a lot, though, it was very accurate and reliable and well suited to European waters.
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DanZilla wrote: Why don't we bring this conversation back around to the story...
Sure. What's your opinion on Janine having a marked preference for mechanical devices over electronics, chemistry, genetics, etc., and for hand-crafted vs. easily automated construction? After all, advances in integrated circuitry over the past half-century have been impressive, but they don't solve all professional engineering problems.
Plus, dominos and legos are cool.
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Mechanical systems also over amazing versatility in terms of the range of available options even when using the same basic equipment. For example reduction gears increase torque at the output by reducing the speed through one or more steps... But that same gear system, if you use the former output as the input allows you to convert a low speed (but higher torque) input into a much faster output. All without changing anything other than the end you use as the input/output. Now look at an electrical fan, no matter how fast you spin the blades, you are not generating electricity, though on some fans I will admit that you can make them go from blow to suck if you turn the plug half-way over...on a real old fan with only two prongs of the same size.
Janine may not be able to produce things that are as flashy as someone that specialized in plasma weapons or glitter capturing force fields (sell those to wondercute for big bucks). But she should, in theory, be able to make many highly practical and versatile things. Most likely at a fairly low cost compared to the ultra-high tech items that may appeal to a much wider market. I am inclined to say she has on of the more practical powers in terms of living a "normal" life.
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Sir Lee wrote: Worm gears are not reversible.
Oh yes they are (he says, having a set on his telescope

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Yeah we see that, but unless someone who they respect points that out to them they will fail to see that their plan is essentially the same as the last plan that failed. To do this is human. Sometimes we get enamored of an idea to the point that we will not abandon it no matter the evidence that said idea is false! And we are supposed to be adults. The Masterminds are teenagers, how can they be different (even with magic [or maybe especially because of] upgrades) than any other human who has failed to apprehend his plan's similarity to other failed plans...jmhyp wrote: I had to laugh at the Masterminds. Their plan is basically the same as Esquires' plan. Perhaps a bit more subtle but ultimately, it relies on Glyph being afraid and running into someone's arms. Someone should have pointed out that similarity. When Esquire outed Glyph she didn't run and she didn't hide. She just continued on. So "needing training" is not going to make her run to the Masterminds for help. It doesn't make a lot of sense. And they are supposed to be smarter than that.
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Anne wrote:
Yeah we see that, but unless someone who they respect points that out to them they will fail to see that their plan is essentially the same as the last plan that failed. To do this is human. Sometimes we get enamored of an idea to the point that we will not abandon it no matter the evidence that said idea is false! And we are supposed to be adults. The Masterminds are teenagers, how can they be different (even with magic [or maybe especially because of] upgrades) than any other human who has failed to apprehend his plan's similarity to other failed plans...jmhyp wrote: I had to laugh at the Masterminds. Their plan is basically the same as Esquires' plan. Perhaps a bit more subtle but ultimately, it relies on Glyph being afraid and running into someone's arms. Someone should have pointed out that similarity. When Esquire outed Glyph she didn't run and she didn't hide. She just continued on. So "needing training" is not going to make her run to the Masterminds for help. It doesn't make a lot of sense. And they are supposed to be smarter than that.
First. great story. Looking forward to seeing more gen two high jinks.
But something that popped into my mind the other week after reading this. Why are only future villains eligible for the Masterminds? I realize that the Mastermind is generally considered a genre? type of bad guy.
But why can't there be a mastermind hero? And could the club reject someone who is not planning on going down the lawbreaker track?
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peter wrote: But something that popped into my mind the other week after reading this. Why are only future villains eligible for the Masterminds? I realize that the Mastermind is generally considered a genre? type of bad guy.
But why can't there be a mastermind hero? And could the club reject someone who is not planning on going down the lawbreaker track?
Well, that's easy. Because we write it that way intentionally. The Whateley Clubs are cliche because they are meant to be cliche cliques... except when they aren't. Do kids who were Stoners in your high school always end up being stoners all their lives? Do the Jocks all end up pro-ball? Are the Nerds all working for Microsoft? Sure, some of them did exactly what being part of their club made you expect from them. Some of them went the opposite route - the Jock who ended up a scientist, the stoner who runs his own business, the Nerd who married the heiress... and so on. We do both... We have real heroic kids who pursue FSHA with all seriousness. And we have the ones whose only thing heroic about them is the size of their ego. We have the kids of supervillains ... some of whom are serious bad apples ... others of whom recognize that the label doesn't always mean evil, sometimes it just means what you see important in life is outside the boundaries of law. How often do we play the Underdogs as actual 'weaklings'... even if everyone thinks their powers are lame?
There's always variation. Except when there isn't because its funnier that way. Or there's a better story to tell. Etc.
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Well, first of all what kind of masterminds are we talking about? When I think mastermind, I think of somebody like Kingpin, Xanatos, or Lex Luthor; or keeping inside the WU, people like Dominus, Nimbus, and maybe Lord Paramount. The Masterminds club, however, seems like it just uses the term as a snazzy name for a general villain club. So in that sense they're just the villainous parallel to the Cape Squad and the idea of admitting a mastermind hero doesn't really make sense. Regardless, yes, they certainly can reject people who don't intend to take a villainous route. They're not an official club, after all. They can do what they want.peter wrote: But why can't there be a mastermind hero? And could the club reject someone who is not planning on going down the lawbreaker track?
As far as actual mastermind-type heroes go, though, Ayla, Hartford, and Ty West come to mind, and Glyph is heading in that direction. A case can be made for both Mrs. Potter and Brigand as well.
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I think that is the role, whether or not she likes it that Jadis/Frost Diabolik will be cast in. Certainly no hero group is going to give her the time of day for a long time...Kettlekorn wrote:
Well, first of all what kind of masterminds are we talking about? When I think mastermind, I think of somebody like Kingpin, Xanatos, or Lex Luthor; or keeping inside the WU, people like Dominus, Nimbus, and maybe Lord Paramount. The Masterminds club, however, seems like it just uses the term as a snazzy name for a general villain club. So in that sense they're just the villainous parallel to the Cape Squad and the idea of admitting a mastermind hero doesn't really make sense. Regardless, yes, they certainly can reject people who don't intend to take a villainous route. They're not an official club, after all. They can do what they want.peter wrote: But why can't there be a mastermind hero? And could the club reject someone who is not planning on going down the lawbreaker track?
As far as actual mastermind-type heroes go, though, Ayla, Hartford, and Ty West come to mind, and Glyph is heading in that direction. A case can be made for both Mrs. Potter and Brigand as well.
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Yes, the Masterminds is the club for people who are interested in careers where the law is something you only pay attention to know how to break it.
But no, they are not really "masterminds". Maybe a couple of them are masterminds-in-the-making, and the rest are... well, fodder.
But they all LIKE to THINK of themselves as being "Masterminds." That's where the club name comes from.
As for true-masterminds-in-the-making at the school... Ayla and Jadis naturally come on top. The Don might qualify, although he is not much for the actual planning. Several of the A-Team, with their focus on strategy, might qualify. Oiler, perhaps, with his penchant for driving from the backseat and letting Fantastico be the figurehead. And I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that Judicator is actually running the New Olympians and nobody noticed it. Goddess of Strategy and Wisdom, you know... we had a sample of that in the Angel in Dickinson affair.
In the Masterminds club themselves, I would say that Stopwatch thinks of himself as such, but Hazard or Heartbreaker might end up one-upping him -- they are smart enough and devious enough, without being hampered by his massive ego and insecurities.
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Kristin Darken wrote: Well, that's easy. Because we write it that way intentionally. The Whateley Clubs are cliche because they are meant to be cliche cliques... except when they aren't.
Which cliche is Wondercute?
Insanity: for when normal just isn't interesting enough.
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Angeldude wrote:
Kristin Darken wrote: Well, that's easy. Because we write it that way intentionally. The Whateley Clubs are cliche because they are meant to be cliche cliques... except when they aren't.
Which cliche is Wondercute?
Fellowship of Christian Athletes?
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Angeldude wrote:
Kristin Darken wrote: Well, that's easy. Because we write it that way intentionally. The Whateley Clubs are cliche because they are meant to be cliche cliques... except when they aren't.
Which cliche is Wondercute?
Mean Girls.
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Kristin Darken wrote:
Angeldude wrote:
Kristin Darken wrote: Well, that's easy. Because we write it that way intentionally. The Whateley Clubs are cliche because they are meant to be cliche cliques... except when they aren't.
Which cliche is Wondercute?
Mean Girls.
Really i thought it was agressjve cutsy anime addicts....
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Sir Lee wrote: Let me sum it up:
Yes, the Masterminds is the club for people who are interested in careers where the law is something you only pay attention to know how to break it.
But no, they are not really "masterminds". Maybe a couple of them are masterminds-in-the-making, and the rest are... well, fodder.
But they all LIKE to THINK of themselves as being "Masterminds." That's where the club name comes from.
As for true-masterminds-in-the-making at the school... Ayla and Jadis naturally come on top. The Don might qualify, although he is not much for the actual planning. Several of the A-Team, with their focus on strategy, might qualify. Oiler, perhaps, with his penchant for driving from the backseat and letting Fantastico be the figurehead. And I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that Judicator is actually running the New Olympians and nobody noticed it. Goddess of Strategy and Wisdom, you know... we had a sample of that in the Angel in Dickinson affair.
In the Masterminds club themselves, I would say that Stopwatch thinks of himself as such, but Hazard or Heartbreaker might end up one-upping him -- they are smart enough and devious enough, without being hampered by his massive ego and insecurities.
Jello seems to be in the Masterminds because Heartbreaker is. She never came across as the "I am going to be a villain" mindset.
Half of the Gen 1 Seeds think they are masterminds, but only Jadis and perhaps Silver Serpent or Cheese could be. Nephandus and Jobe certainly are not.
Mule of the Grunts is likely to be a great "mastermind" or at least military leader, especially if he keeps getting schooled by Jade.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- Anne
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