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Question The Trouble With Karma
- Kristin Darken
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Fate guard you and grant you a Light to brighten your Way.
- Malady
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Nice to see Petshop has good self-esteem!
Ember... Hugging that doesn't sound at all like a good idea...
Bio-devs being able to replicate Mutant traits... Did we know that yet?
And this Wondercute is a lot more exclusionary than the original.
Petshop as a foil to Jobe. ... She's likely a high level if she can make full beings.
Woah, that Giggles info!
The resolution 'was' hinted at.
OMG. Karma's history!
That stinger! Are there even more down there? Anything to do with the Disappearance?
- Valentine
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I'm getting the impression that this Wondercute is more a club than a training team too.
I hope Achoo has graduated.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- mhalpern
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- MM2ss
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- Anne
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On tribbles... one wonders that it has taken this long! Or maybe this is only the most successful iteration of them!?
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- Naldru
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- Angeldude
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You've doomed us all is what you've done!
If she was born in either 2008 or 09, then that means we're only a year away in Gen 1 from seeing Mischief get a baby sister.
We know that the Imp has done business with the White Lady in the past. I wonder if Glyph will have any knowledge of Karma's existence, kind of like how AJ was invited when they were young.
Insanity: for when normal just isn't interesting enough.
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- Hardric
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Ack, she's learning, prepare some daka too! Wait a sec, Elmira? Change of plan, kill her with daka, avenge Pinkie and the Brain and countless others! Also, address your complaints to bint thinking sabotaging magic rituals is a smart thing, not the victim.
*Shakes fist at the pet* Collabo!
Do it, create them, let them avenge the countless pets you cuddled to death.
She seems like she has more brains in the self-preservation front than Jobe... Still, how long before her equivalent of the Drow disaster happen?
It better have been an attempt to recreate Sunset Shimmer, best pony/human.
Paperwork, the actual test for leadership.
Both solid choices, but I think you all need to watch Puella Magi Madoka Magica, girls... Nah wait, it would mean creating Kyubey, except it would be one in Elmira's clutches... You know what, just do that.
Oh, use of plurial. Do that means you actually know that Morgana isn't the actual bunny killer?
Okay, even the CMC weren't that young back in the day, and the way she acts don't exactly scream 'Alyss-like'. I guess she's the child of someone in the personnel.
Oookay, this breed of Wondercute is losing points in my book. Try something to correct that, like render the Attack Bitches cute.
Totally an actual kid. And a catastrophe waiting to happen.
Scratch that, one who actually happened at least several times.
On one hand, Bio-Devisor, so hazards of the likes of Jobe, and unknown critters... On the other, free tese poor things from Elmira... We'll have to suffer for their freedom.
Don't touch it, kiddo that's a nasty Quisling, the most uncute thing in creation.
This critter multiply itself, I can remember several animes/series with that plotline, they never end well. Is it one of the fireproof ones? Just asking.
Next step after that disaster, give the ability to speak to Quisling, so it can better warn you.
Unstable? We need more flamethrowers and napalm.
Yeah, I'm sure Tia is delighted at the idea of being so cute, and would be delighted at being your toy. Just as all the other girls you would transform. And the girl having a part in that mess (Prime culprit is far away unfortunately, we'll have to... well hope for karma.)
Hint: You don't want something to happen to you, odds are other people won't either. Freebie.
Yep, human speech will be next upgrade or Li'l Collabo.
Okay, this little one is going from 'cute little girl' to 'imp' rather quick...
Euh, Tribble? *remembers the term from a conversation with Star Trek fans* Heck. Wait, aren't these things supposed to breed even faster than this?
And they eat electricity? Why did you have to do this to the mighty Gigawatt? At least I guess that means Plan Flamethrower will work.
Flee for your lives, Tribbles. Elmira and her cronies are out there for you!
How in the everasting heck did you think having these critters reproduce was a good idea? If it was an order, you had to do some researches about them. At what moment keeping the 'multiply' thing was considered a good idea? Dunno about how much this mutant trait implanted is a big thing with a bio-devisor involved though.
I think next days will be... interesting, not so innocent little girl.
You created them with the reproduction feature, totally your fault.
Eh, Karma's... Heck, can't inadvertently insult a kid. Dang.
You've got funny surprises in reserve, Twitch. I'd like a detailed opinion on Gideon someday.
I had to double-check to make sure it wasn't Kerry. Wonder how things are going for her...
Once again, the reproduction feature was the key problem here.
*Fan of Cole MacGrath-like power-sets wince* If pumping volts at a problem doesn't solve it, where the heck is this world going? At least daka and flamethrowers are still there.
Illusion of an opportunity. How exactly do you intend to clean them up all at once?
At least the new generation rises up to the challenges of the old one, right?
They made actual Pokemons? Almost everything is pardonned. And that 'almost' go away if you can create Pokeballs and at the very least Ghost type Pokemons.
You know, turning the tribbles into daka is another really elegant way to deal with that problem.
Oh, a Dark Magical Girl. Does she have Sad Eyes, by chance?
...I'm not gonna lie, I'm writing this after reading the whole story, and when I see Karma in action, I realize how obvious that twist was with hindsight. All good ones do.
Drown Elmira, purring fighters of freedom! For Pinkie! For the Brain!
InFamous, betrayed by cute critters. We need these flamethrowers.
Really obvious with hindsight.
You, I like the idea of shooting up thrrough a zombie apocalypse as much as any guy, but doing one with tribble... Not for me. And don't dismiss 'cute'. There is this anime called Madoka you could find interesting.
Take heart. At least it lived and died free of Elmira.
Welp, couldn't you have told that one on-screen too? And make sure that lifespan was even shorter?
The only ones left with the ability of affecting that way are kittens.
Nuclear Launch Detected. Farewell Karma.
You're not that quick on that front, are you?
Where does that second name come from exactly?
I'll say it again: first time you see the twist was a genial surprise made even better once you realize it was coming all along.
Codename was tailor-made.
Imp's last resort is just perfect.
Great idea. Make sure Gideon is her first target.
Euh, we need AJ, Morgana and Lindsay on speed-dial quick, before the catastrophe happens... Actually not Lindsay, she would help. I think.
And so the Tribble Legion began to build itself back. Best case scenario, something down there makes them mutate into SMT Demons, and the students get to play RL-version of one of the older Mons games once the Devisors create COMPs. Steal Nephandus' work for clues.
Okay, that was a rooll of excellent fun. Just a thing though: Wouldn't had it been better to try to keep the final twist spoilered for the first page? I read the story first, but there are always some curious who will check the thread here first, and ruining the big plot twist to them is perhaps not the best move.
- mhalpern
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Considering she is 7 years old, that means she was born in 09 most likelyAnne wrote: So Imp has multiplied? Hmmm wonder who the other factor in that multiplication is? Is this Mischief's younger half sister? One hopes!
On tribbles... one wonders that it has taken this long! Or maybe this is only the most successful iteration of them!?
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- mhalpern
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- Dreamer
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Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will be details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.
The Trouble With Karma comments
Ember is smart, trying to keep away from Petshop's grasp. And she actually thinks Morgana blew up that invisible bunny on purpose, she needs to learn to talk to people and find out the full story. Wondercute secret clubhouse and in fuku uniforms wonder if they will be anything like the original Wondercute. Gigi, don't give Petshop ideas, that is how the apocalypse starts!
An invisible bunny named Harvey as their mascot, Twitch holding the cutie. Samantha can use a magic spell to see Harvey, good spell to have. Avatar mismatch syndrome for Samantha, wonder if the unicorn spirit gives her healing abilities in addition to magic. My Little Pony thing last year, Petshop actually tried to make one, good grief. Nina and Jessie wanting to watch different animes, Breakdance and Meow Mix trying to find their own shows to watch, yet it has to wait until their official meeting is over.
Talk about their enemies, zombie girl, those perverts, and Morgana, oh boy. Knock on the door and it is a 7-year-old girl with long dark hair that was nearly black. Karma wishes to join Wondercute and followed Petshop, Jessie saying Wondercute members only despite Samantha being there. Ugh, the way they excluded Karma, they are definitely not like the original Wondercute, they would allow anyone who wished to join. All because of Karma's age.
Karma sneaking around the devisor labs, actually whispering "Sneak sneak sneak," to herself while doing so. She is related to Mischief somehow, isn't she. So adorable, saying she's not too young. Jetpack and ray gun, okay, someone needs to keep a closer watch on this kid. And caught by Mrs. Hastings, yet tries to act innocent, okay she has to be related to Mischief, only she would try to get away with stuff and do an innocent act when caught.
Chased out of the devisor labs, at least Mrs. Hastings is nice about it. *eyes bug out* Nooo! Don't go into Petshop's lab and unleash anything in there, this could be an ecological disaster.
Oh god, she is like the youngest girl from the Despicable Me movies."It's so fluffy, I'm gonna die..."
Bitsy trying to chew Karma out and she just thinks Bitsy is cute and wants to pet him. *groan* A little ball of fur, about the size of a baseball, with no head or tail. Oh my god, Petshop made a tribble! We're all doomed! A spark from the furry creature and it self-replicated, definitely a tribble, bad day. And of course she leaves with one of them and calls it Fuzzy, this is how apocalypse movies start.
*sigh* Bitsy trying to tell Petshop what happened and she just thinks Bitsy is jealous of her latest creation. And Petshop leaves, having no idea of the trouble which has been started while she was away. Not stable enough yet to pet for a few days, meaning the self-replicating is an unintended side-effect of being unstable.
*facepalms* Wanting to make others be like Tia, Petshop has more than a few screws loose. Twitch showing up with a tribble, found on the sidewalk, Petshop wondering how it got out of her lab. Just how many of the little guys are out there already by this point.
Karma has a babysitter, yet she still gets up to this kind of stuff, who did she learn the skills to sneak off from. How long for the latest babysitter to get out of the closet, just how many babysitters has she gone through, starting to wonder who her parents are. A troublemaker like Karma who sees it as fun almost sounds like her mom could be Imp, though how possible is that, she would have to be born in the next year or two of Gen 1 for that to be true.
And of course, she has Fuzzy with her. Caught by Laura and of course she recognizes a tribble when she sees one. Drawing on electricity to self-replicate, Petshop watches original Star Trek, only explanation. Lots, it has self-replicated lots, this is very bad. Found by the girls of Wondercute and Karma takes off in a mad dash, quick little girl. And Petshop even calls it a tribble, there are certain things you don't create and those are one of them.
Wondercute trying to catch Karma and she is leaving a trail of tribbles, just how out of hand will this get before it is stopped. Tribble brick road, Wizard of Oz and Star Trek reference in one, nice. Nice staff Twitch made, very handy. Petshop getting in trouble for this, all the girls wanting a tribble of their own, this situation is out of control. Trying to carry all of those tribbles in an effort in futility.
Twitch wanting one as a familiar, silly girl. Karma doesn't want to give back the tribble and Twitch goes to use her sparky staff while Petshop tries to warn her, there goes the quad. Energizers that absorb electricity to multiply and Twitch's sparky staff falls amongst them, I feel a headache coming on. And the tribbles rolling around the campus like tumbleweeds due to a strong gust, how can things get any worse.
Karma hiding behind a bush and enjoying the chaos she has caused, saying Wondercute is fun to play with. If this is her idea of play what are the odds she isn't Imp's daughter at this point. *sigh* Thinks she is playing hide and seek with the other girls, not realizing all the trouble she is causing. And she leaves to get dinner, now that is a normal kid response.
Petshop called into a meeting with the administration, tribbles scattered around the campus, all because she needs better security in her lab to keep out a 7-year-old girl. Twitch with her for company and moral support, though making the tribbles different colors, we don't need more of them!
A boy using a leaf blower on the poor things. *sigh* D'oh! Gotten inside buildings and cottages to drain electricity, this is way out of hand. Miss Ellison, Ms. Claire, and Mr. Turner, she is in big trouble. Oh, it figures, one of the guys in the science fiction club asked her to make it as a mascot, bonehead. Environmental catastrophe and ecological disaster, if they escape from Whateley into the rest of the world, eep.
Mr. Turner is not surprised Karma stole the tribble from Petshop's lab, shaking his head, guess he knows the young girl well. At least Miss Ellison is on her side, now how will they clean up this mess before it gets much worse. 3 hours, talk about working under a severe limit.
Ms. Claire is right, a sanction from the UN might be coming Petshop's way at this rate. Miss Ellison holding and petting one of the tribbles, too bad they wouldn't work as a familiar, would freak out more than a few opponents. Pokemon incident sounds like someone created Pikachus, who thought that was a good idea. Headmaster coming back from vacation tomorrow and facilities and ground crews already cleaning up the tribbles, Mr. Turner can be sneaky.
Garbage bag full of tribbles, trilling and purring, another garbage bag full of tribbles, are they in the thousands yet. Leaf blowers and rakes to get them into piles. And I'm not sure I could resist laying in the middle of a tribble pile like Breakdance is. Trekkies in full costume with props, another kid launching them out of a potato gun, oh bother.
Great, the Wondercute clubhouse floor covered in tribbles and Karma in the middle of it all. And Karma has made her own Wondercute costume. Wait, Petshop's lab and the Wondercute clubhouse were both locked, plus it doesn't seem like Karma has manifested as a mutant yet. Has to be Imp's daughter, she taught her daughter lockpicking, good grief.
*facepalms* Karma uses a stun gun on the tribble because he likes it and purrs really cute when she does it. Dancing around the furry floor and giggling, tagging Petshop and saying she is it, Karma is too mischievous not to be Imp's daughter. Wait, was she named Karma by Imp, as in karmic payback for all she had done by having to deal with a daughter like herself, that is the only thing which makes sense to me. And drowning in tribbles, scary cute way to go.
Karma still considers this playing with the big kids, someone stop this zanny kid! Impatient as Wondercute hasn't come after her, sees a big pile of tribbles moving around with a hand sticking out, poor Giggles! At least Karma saved her, plus Giggles explaining to Karma what the tribbles did to her and how they create more of themselves seems to finally be getting through to her.
Wondercute has caught up and Giggles runs to safety away from the tribbles, as Karma still thinks they are playing with her. Moving like that to avoid Meow Mix, excited and having fun avoiding being caught, Karma reminds me of Imp when Superhawk was chasing her. Only to run into Penny Dreadful, who at least shows the good sense not to cuss in front of a little kid.
Darn it, Penny Dreadful running interference for Karma against Wondercute, but the zombie only distracts some of them as Petshop leads the charge still trying to get the tribble back from Karma. Out in the open, nowhere to run and trapped by Wondercute. Wait, a pile of fur, then this happens to Fuzzy, so unstable they die after a few hours, leaving nothing but fur behind. Poor Karma, to lose a pet like that.
Once again facing Mr. Turner, Miss Ellison, and Ms. Claire along with all of Wondercute and Karma. And Petshop doesn't blame Karma, she would have done the same thing involving a cute animal. Miss Ellison trying to comfort Karma, even named her tribble Mister Fluffikins, hard to lose a pet no matter how long you have them. And Petshop knew this was going to happen to the tribbles, clones of clones of clones, never should have made them.
Karma tries to use the puppydog eyes on Mr. Turner and says he has a daughter of his own and built up a tolerance to that look, rats. Whoa, Karma would rather clean Hawthorne with a toothbrush than have to deal with her mama. Not a student and attends a grade school off campus, meaning one or both of her parents is a staff member at Whateley.
Susan Moira seems to be Karma's real name, with how she reacted to it. And Imp is her mother, too many signs throughout the story with how Karma acted and getting into places that are locked without powers for it not to have been Imp. Hehe, and trying to blame Petshop for it, definitely Imp's daughter.
"I don't know whether I should be upset by this," the Imp told her daughter, "or proud." Her smirk and tone of her voice clearly suggested the latter.
The symbol on the chest of Karma's Wondercute outfit would have been a dead giveaway of who her mother is. And lecturing her about getting caught, classic Imp. And Twitch talking about Karma joining the Bad Seeds, *starts to hear 'It's The End of the World and I Feel Fine' in my head* Have to clean up the mess and then watch 'The Trouble With Tribbles' episode of classic Star Trek, hopefully this gets through to Petshop the dangers of such creatures. No fur and she is thinking of making a dragon, d'oh!A moment later, the Imp smiled down at Karma. "If I've said this once, I've said this a thousand times. You're karma, come to bite me on my tail..."
A single tribble in a rarely used tunnel finds the only survivor of the Pikachus, noooo! This was a very fun story from start to finish. At first, I thought Karma had powers, some kind of probability warper or such, with all the things she pulled off. But things started to add up as the story went on, little bits and pieces about how Karma acted, moved and then the locked lab and locked Wondercute clubhouse cinched it. So glad to see Imp get to be a mother and since she is 7, it is in the not too distant future of Gen 1 when she finds out. Though I hope Wondercute 2.0 learns to be more open to new members. Can't wait to read more and would love to see more of Karma in the future, fun little girl.
Thank You for story comments appreciated and help me know me they are being read and liked.

- null0trooper
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Also, the ending reminded me of:
Christmas Chicanery wrote: Inside was a mouse, darting back and forth as it nosed around the scratched interior. Just an ordinary, white-skinned, red-eyed mouse.
Oh, no. No, no, no nononono...
It wasn’t long at all before the mouse looked up at the two of them, dark beady eyes flicking back and forth as it watched them. Greasy could’ve sworn it smiled and winked at him right before squeaking in a high, shrill voice:
“Mom! Dad!” A moment later, it added a belated “Hi!”
Mom?
Greasy looked over at the crystal-skinned girl in confusion, and found that she was already looking back at him, the featureless curve of her face impossible to read.
What the hell did you do?
They turned to stare back at the mouse, who waved at them.
Simultaneously, they said “Oh, hell no.”
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- Kettlekorn
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Why would somebody who doesn't want to see spoilers visit the discussion thread for a story they haven't read?Hardric wrote: Just a thing though: Wouldn't had it been better to try to keep the final twist spoilered for the first page? I read the story first, but there are always some curious who will check the thread here first, and ruining the big plot twist to them is perhaps not the best move.
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- MM2ss
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Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
- Katssun
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In spite of herself, she let out a squeal of joy, realizing that her fantasy of swimming through a pool of cute furry animals had just come true.

The moment that Mr. Turner said, “While that sounds like a fine punishment, you aren’t a student here so I can’t assign you punishments that way…” it all clicked instantly.
We hadn't seen Karma use any powers. The red and black sailor fuku. Seven years old. Everything takes place in the evenings or weekends. Not even a student. Close enough for her mother to be called, so she must live in The Village. There could only possibly be one answer.
I love twists like that. All the clues were there the whole time. But there's always just one line immediately before the reveal that pieces all them together.
I wonder if Karma's real name has any significance. Art reference or cartoon? Speaking of which, loved the Elmira reference to what Imp calls Petshop.
As for the other tidbits, is Petshop making a bunny that Morgana can play with, out of...spite?!

- null0trooper
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Katssun wrote: I wonder if Karma's real name has any significance. Art reference or cartoon? Speaking of which, loved the Elmira reference to what Imp calls Petshop.
The Moirai of Greek myth are also known as the Fates.
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But the real burning question should be: What about the quadrotriticale? (I'm shocked it isn't in the Firefox spelling dictionary.

- Malady
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I'm looking forward to seeing this particular shoe drop in G1, it should be a good opportunity for jokes and hilarity. With Whately and Imp's history it should be interesting to see if the writers decide if Karma is a product of family planning or if Imp hired a (hopefully graduate) biodevisor to use IVF to produce a zygote and put together an exowomb and use to grow it to maturity. Imagine a room with shifting muted lights and snippets of music and various voices reading prose being heard, with various pieces of medical equipment standing along one wall and a sizeable translucent tank and a rocking chair having pride of place..
Regarding the tribbles, I'm in hindsight somewhat surprised we haven't seen theiir like before. With all the immature biodevisors around Whateley, tribble outbreaks ought to be at least yearly events. Of course that might also be one reason Stan and Morrie take have flamethrowers, explosives, incendiaries and other heavy weapons on their rounds. Now I'd love to see someone create a mogwai. Of course that kind of large scale pest control might also be a lesser known secondary duty of the Cape Squad.
Keep up the good work!
- Malady
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Echo wrote: Regarding the tribbles, I'm in hindsight somewhat surprised we haven't seen theiir like before. With all the immature biodevisors around tribble outbursts ought to be at least yearly events.
Why would anyone 'want' to make a tribble? It's not a weapon or utility item, and Petshop only made it 'cause it was cute.
And there aren't that many biodevs who can make actual creatures, IIRC? Help me think of one other than Jobe and Petshop...
Most biodevs set themselves to biological alteration and biological warfare?
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Actually...Malady wrote: Why would anyone 'want' to make a tribble? It's not a weapon or utility item, and Petshop only made it 'cause it was cute.
That is:The Trouble with Karma wrote: “Tribbles,” Mr. Turner said in a flat tone. “What were you thinking?”
Amelia squirmed under his gaze. “One of the guys in the science fiction club asked me to make it,” she explained defensively. “They wanted a mascot…”
1. Apparently some sci-fi geeks want to make tribbles. Meaning that they might have tried to commission one from biodevisors before.
2. Cute may have played a part in convincing Petshop, but she wasn't the one who came up with the idea of making tribbles, and she was doing it as a commission.
- Malady
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Sir Lee wrote:
Actually...Malady wrote: Why would anyone 'want' to make a tribble? It's not a weapon or utility item, and Petshop only made it 'cause it was cute.
That is:The Trouble with Karma wrote: “Tribbles,” Mr. Turner said in a flat tone. “What were you thinking?”
Amelia squirmed under his gaze. “One of the guys in the science fiction club asked me to make it,” she explained defensively. “They wanted a mascot…”
1. Apparently some sci-fi geeks want to make tribbles. Meaning that they might have tried to commission one from biodevisors before.
2. Cute may have played a part in convincing Petshop, but she wasn't the one who came up with the idea of making tribbles, and she was doing it as a commission.
Ohh... Thanks! ... ... Hmm... Shouldn't the commissioners also be held to task as well? ... I think they should, if they asked for the replication feature... But did they...
And how much did they pay?
Lol if the Pikachus were due to her taking a commission from the Anime club. The lesson being that Petshop should think her commissions through more, and people should stop commissioning these things...
If anyone commissions a Chocobo to go with the Final Fantasy Trio...

And if Petshop ever splices a devisor or gadgeteer trait into something... ... Where did she get her Energizer Trait Sample, anyway...
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Speaking of which, has Jobe every worked with mutant traits directly like Petshop has? If he hasn't, then it could very well mean that Petshop might actually be more powerful than Jobe.
[EDIT] If she manages to isolate the regen trait like she did with the energizer trait, she could very well succeed where Bio-Regenetics failed.
Insanity: for when normal just isn't interesting enough.
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Malady wrote: I'm more shocked at the implication that Karma goes to school in Dunwich, the Mythos town... But I guess its alright?
I'm more worried for the town.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- Hardric
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Angeldude wrote: Speaking of Petshop splicing an energizer trait into one of her creations, it's likely that she'd be able to create lifeforms with other powers. While she has expressed discomfort in modifying her own body, it's not out of the question that she could work with humans as a base and give them mutant powers right from the start.
Speaking of which, has Jobe every worked with mutant traits directly like Petshop has? If he hasn't, then it could very well mean that Petshop might actually be more powerful than Jobe.
[EDIT] If she manages to isolate the regen trait like she did with the energizer trait, she could very well succeed where Bio-Regenetics failed.
Wait a sec, I think maybe giving Energizer traits isn't that big of a thing... No I'm not crazy, just remembered Dr Broad, Nacht's old friend, is supposed to have done this to herself, although admittedly it wasn't that stable... Maybe it's easier a decade later.
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Considering Belfatso is no longer Baron Harkonnen-class overweight, I think someone has already succeeded.Hardric wrote: Wait a sec, I think maybe giving Energizer traits isn't that big of a thing... No I'm not crazy, just remembered Dr Broad, Nacht's old friend, is supposed to have done this to herself, although admittedly it wasn't that stable... Maybe it's easier a decade later.
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there is a simple explanation of why it might be easier in Gen 2, blame Roulette.Hardric wrote:
Angeldude wrote: Speaking of Petshop splicing an energizer trait into one of her creations, it's likely that she'd be able to create lifeforms with other powers. While she has expressed discomfort in modifying her own body, it's not out of the question that she could work with humans as a base and give them mutant powers right from the start.
Speaking of which, has Jobe every worked with mutant traits directly like Petshop has? If he hasn't, then it could very well mean that Petshop might actually be more powerful than Jobe.
[EDIT] If she manages to isolate the regen trait like she did with the energizer trait, she could very well succeed where Bio-Regenetics failed.
Wait a sec, I think maybe giving Energizer traits isn't that big of a thing... No I'm not crazy, just remembered Dr Broad, Nacht's old friend, is supposed to have done this to herself, although admittedly it wasn't that stable... Maybe it's easier a decade later.
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Also, she was setting up Dr Macabre when she said that, so it might have been BS in the first place.
But I have no idea if it would even matter, the fact remains that she managed it, even if it was unstable. Note that the Energizer trait may have been of why the tribbles were unstable as well.
I do wonder if the instability was from protein antagonism (which is a known problem with hot-growing new organisms, though it sounds like it is messier than what happened here) or some other known stability problem which Petshop had anticipated because it was a familiar one.
Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
- mhalpern
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Congrats on the promotion, by the way.
And her first name comes from Imp's best friend pre-manifestation.null0trooper wrote:
Katssun wrote: I wonder if Karma's real name has any significance. Art reference or cartoon? Speaking of which, loved the Elmira reference to what Imp calls Petshop.
The Moirai of Greek myth are also known as the Fates.
- Valentine
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Schol-R-LEA wrote: Well, I don't think it was ever said if Dr. Venereal was a Devisor or a Shimmelhorn Engineer, though just what the difference between them (aside from one being a mutant trait and the other something else) isn't clear. She did claim that her mentor was a Shimmelhorn Scientist, and that she in turn gained her abilities as a result of another one from back in the 1940s, but that doesn't necessarily mean Dr. Venus isn't a mutant herself - other Shimmelhorners seem to have tried taking mutant students before (such as Dr. Pygmalion, whom Delta Spike had hooked with the chance of a Devisor student who was also a brainwashed hot chick).
Also, she was setting up Dr Macabre when she said that, so it might have been BS in the first place.
But I have no idea if it would even matter, the fact remains that she managed it, even if it was unstable. Note that the Energizer trait may have been of why the tribbles were unstable as well.
I do wonder if the instability was from protein antagonism (which is a known problem with hot-growing new organisms, though it sounds like it is messier than what happened here) or some other known stability problem which Petshop had anticipated because it was a familiar one.
I believe that the difference between a Devisor and a Shimmelhorner is that a Shimmelhorner is never going to be able to work backwards to Gadgeteer range. Jericho is making a simpler set of his armor as a gadget, Möbius will never be able to make his stuff into gadgets. Both are still Devisors.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- Malady
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And checked Wiki and checked story. It is true that it's never explicitly said that Petshop made the Pikachus, instead of some other biodev.
- Kettlekorn
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Doubt it. I think it's a lot more likely that they're just two different methods of accomplishing the same task (attaching a bubble of warped physics to a device to enable it to function in ways it should not). Devisors do it through their mutation. Shimmelhorn engineers probably use a weak psi trait.Valentine wrote: I believe that the difference between a Devisor and a Shimmelhorner is that a Shimmelhorner is never going to be able to work backwards to Gadgeteer range. Jericho is making a simpler set of his armor as a gadget, Möbius will never be able to make his stuff into gadgets. Both are still Devisors.
- annachie
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Valentine wrote: Jericho is making a simpler set of his armor as a gadget, Möbius will never be able to make his stuff into gadgets. Both are still Devisors.
Jerico is both a devisor and a gadgeteer.
- Ametros
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As for Petshop's talent, I did wonder if there's much of a market for designer familiars among mages - and indeed a similar thought was brought up by Samantha. In fact, that Energizer trait alone could be useful to knock out technical bugs in an area - let alone the potential for what the energy then gets used for.
Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.
- Schol-R-LEA
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Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
- Schol-R-LEA
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Admittedly, this idea was also influenced by A Miracle of Science where Science-Related Memetic Disorder is a communicable disease transmitted through literally contagious ideas (which is why I named that TVtropes page after it when I launched it).
Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
- mhalpern
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Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
- Malady
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mhalpern wrote: A shorter lived version of Tribble with fewer generations would be an effective holdout against energizers and power armor...
Mmm. And it seems the original is stable, so it's reusable!
So, power outages are gonna start happening in the stories... And a Blizzard's coming... Whoops, Blizzard's in Gen1... Now I'm thinking of someone codenamed Blizzard...
Wait... Is this the furthest point in Gen2 that we have? ... Lol if there's a power outage during a Sim Run or something.
- mhalpern
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best to keep the original/new original separate 8 generations before poof sounds like a reasonable limit, 255 is enough to be cute and effective, but not enough for apocalypseMalady wrote:
mhalpern wrote: A shorter lived version of Tribble with fewer generations would be an effective holdout against energizers and power armor...
Mmm. And it seems the original is stable, so it's reusable!
So, power outages are gonna start happening in the stories... And a Blizzard's coming... Whoops, Blizzard's in Gen1... Now I'm thinking of someone codenamed Blizzard...
Wait... Is this the furthest point in Gen2 that we have? ... Lol if there's a power outage during a Sim Run or something.
Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
- Morpheus
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The waking world is but a dream.
- elrodw
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I still intend to do that, but living in very, very close quarters out of boxes with family in dust and some residual mold and construction debris is really making it hard to get some solitude to think about writing. It'll happen - eventually.
Never give up, Never surrender! Captain Peter Quincy Taggert
- null0trooper
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elrodw wrote: I still intend to do that, but living in very, very close quarters out of boxes with family in dust and some residual mold and construction debris is really making it hard to get some solitude to think about writing. It'll happen - eventually.
Trust me on this: many of us understand just how wonky cognitive processes on antihistamines can get, and that having to camp out in one's home is not exactly relaxing. I suspect that many of the story ideas you have jotted down but not fleshed out can be written after your house is back in operation and still fit into Gen2 Year One.
Even then, there still need to be a few hijinks left for the following years (or pawned off on a new set of naive freshmen!)
Forum-posted ideas are freely adoptable.
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- marie7342231
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- Anne
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Nowhereville discussion
- Malady
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Assume she has lockpicks on her, or has she actually manifested with some lockpicking ability? Variant of Imp's PK Field?
- Schol-R-LEA
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Keep in mind, as we see with the Cody twins and students such as Ember, Diz Aster, and Miranda Mahren, early manifestation is a big deal; while it isn't true that early activation leads to high power levels, the reverse - that a high power level is often a factor an early activation - does seem to have some validity. At least, the teachers all seem to think it does.
Given how this ties into Braeburn's theory about the degree of transformation correlating to power level, I expect that his research found a similar correlation about age - let's call it "Braeburn's Rule", a statistical heuristic that indicates that early activators may need additional attention. I can easily see this as something he'd published on well before "The Braeburn Report" (just what April Arendt's former employers did with that information doesn't bear consideration, eew).
Even if this isn't really true, children with super-powers lead to an obvious concern about them lacking maturity and impulse control. This is bad enough in teenagers, as we see all the time in the series, and it does seem to be more of a problem with pre-freshman students such as the Three Little Witches.
Anyway, given how eager Susan Moira is to become a student a Whateley, I can't see her keeping it a secret, especially since all of the adults in her life must be watching like (Super)hawks for signs of manifestation.
Out, damnéd Spot! Bad Doggy!
- Katssun
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Walk through doors as they're shutting, wave goodbye from a bus their parents never noticed them slipping on to, end up on the baggage carousel at airports...
The how doesn't really matter, just that it repeatedly happens.
- Mister D
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Katssun wrote: I was under the impression that she hadn't manifested at all. She's just one of those troublesome and precocious children who have the seemingly supernatural ability to get into places they shouldn't be able to.
Walk through doors as they're shutting, wave goodbye from a bus their parents never noticed them slipping on to, end up on the baggage carousel at airports...
The how doesn't really matter, just that it repeatedly happens.
So she's a odds-warper like Hazard?

Measure Twice
- cprime
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That said, I have a few guesses as to what Karma's powers might be when she manifests:
- Mid-grade Probability Warper, focused on the whole 'your past come back to bite you' theme. Possibly Jinx-like in nature, though Murphy level impact.
- Low-grade Manifestor, likely limited to short-lived version of various tools and devices used in her mother's former line of work. Inspired by Karma's line 'I can manifest, just don’t tell Mama…'
- Mid-grade precog. She brings up cleaning Hawthorne, despite the traditional detention not having come up anywhere else in the story. While it is entirely possible that she heard of it around campus, it's not something likely to have come up in casual conversation. For us as long-time readers, we know that Hawthorne is a traditional punishment, so this incongruity slips under our radar.
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- Malady
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We have too little info to tell, since Braeburn Report info is confirmed.. Somewhat unreliable...
But she's the child of two supers so high meta chance...
We've seen no kid like that who's never mutated? GSD might count as Always Active Powers?
Ebon Flow and Cardiac's kid?