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Question As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted

6 years 2 months ago #1 by Dreamer
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  • A new Gen 2 story by Astrodragon is up. So read, enjoy, and please comment.

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    6 years 2 months ago - 6 years 2 months ago #2 by Malady
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  • Hmm... Not very plot heavy? Feels very setup, more questions than answers... Gives a lot to speculate on...

    Title makes me wary, feels all prophecy-ish...

    But it might just be the length and unconventional topic.

    Morgana 1st Person POV is pretty cool!

    The wards in Erica and Cally's room seem primed to go wrong, at some point.

    How much do the magic staff know about Thulia's demon-ness and stuff? Morgana's magic trouble isn't because of that?
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    6 years 2 months ago #3 by Dreamer
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    6 years 2 months ago #4 by Astrodragon
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  • Malady wrote: Hmm... Not very plot heavy? Feels very setup, more questions than answers... Gives a lot to speculate on...

    Title makes me wary, feels all prophecy-ish...

    But it might just be the length and unconventional topic.

    Morgana 1st Person POV is pretty cool!

    The wards in Erica and Cally's room seem primed to go wrong, at some point.

    How much do the magic staff know about Thulia's demon-ness and stuff? Morgana's magic trouble isn't because of that?


    It is a bit more setup-ish (is that a word?) than I usually do, as its Part 1 of a 4 part story. So lots more to be revealed.
    To come : Drama, action, angst, and a lot more about...mmm, you'll have to read it and see!

    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
    6 years 2 months ago #5 by Astrodragon
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  • Malady wrote:
    How much do the magic staff know about Thulia's demon-ness and stuff? Morgana's magic trouble isn't because of that?


    They have Morgana's account of what hapenned to her, and the report from AEGIS, but while they have an idea about what Thulia is, its a fair amount of speculation and inference. They dont have much in the way of facts, and short of summoning her and interrogating her...

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    6 years 2 months ago #6 by Katssun
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  • Hmm.

    Thulia is very computational and mathematical with her magic, and even if Morgana is impressed upon by Thulia, it doesn't feel like Morgana will follow that trend in the more frantic castings traditions of Whateley. Bianca has the same problem, as brought up during the magic class segment. "Methodical" and somatic casting don't really mix too well. Morgana's pretty good with careful and slow rituals, like Thulia uses. I like how much detail is put in to explain the level of care she put in setting up the bowl.

    By the way...

    This was different from the written magic I'd been practicing for class - instead of drawing a glyph and putting energy in to activate a spell, usually immediately, this was slowly and careful energising a complex set of pre-prepared spells. I had to do each on carefully and in a particular order.

    Is this a...rotary scrying bowl?

    I'm really very curious about the source of the eddy in Morgana's magic. Is it the connection with Thulia? Could it be her regular essence and fire essences causing some sort of destructive wave interference (Caitlin's perspective)? It gets stronger when she pulls fire energy in...but Caitlin doesn't think it has to do with how Morgana draws essence...
    :blink:

    Grimes teasing her about the bunny felt really mean. But I guess it was meant in good fun. Petshop, more annoying to Grimes than the TLW? Grimes is a good teacher, and she did notice how distressed Morgana was about it and ran her through an exercise to calm her down, make her understand that she's not completely lacking in control. And it worked! Morgana got out of the funk she's been in since she exploded the rabbit.

    Singing at the beginning, and apparently quite well. The earplug meant to stop lower-grade sonic attacks but more importantly Chained Melody's magic. The interference eddy of her fire magic. Grimes lesson on alternate types of casting.

    Does this all add up to Morgana learning her fire essence needs to be cast in lyrical chant, just as Chained Melody does?
    :P

    There was one part of the story that completely, totally, utterly, for all eternity, utterly totally completely broke suspension of disbelief. Forever.
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    6 years 2 months ago #7 by mhalpern
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  • Is the headmaster trying to get the secret of Poe dismantled?

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    6 years 2 months ago #8 by Astrodragon
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  • Regarding the issues with Morgana's magic.
    I promise it will all be explained during this story. I'm not so cruel as to tease you with it any longer than that.

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    6 years 2 months ago #9 by Astrodragon
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  • As to Morgana's happy singing in the shower. Well, I'm not going to say how long it will last, but I suspect some of her friends will soon be thinking about an intervention... :D

    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
    6 years 2 months ago #10 by null0trooper
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  • Katssun wrote: Hmm. I like how much detail is put in to explain the level of care she put in setting up the bowl.


    It's a good way to show that it even mages have to put in the work and allocate resources to get all the nice toys.

    Katssun wrote: Does this all add up to Morgana learning her fire essence needs to be cast in lyrical chant, just as Chained Melody does?


    Or, it could be an artifact of the control mechanism meant to be used on the cult's living generator/planar tap project and someone else has to speak/chant to pull the power through her. It could also act as a "poison pill" in case the subject tries to use that power for itself: just enough control allowed for self-upkeep and a glimmer of hope, but not enough to challenge its keepers without immediate punishment (pain, incinerated bunnies or bystanders, etc.)

    Katssun wrote: There was one part of the story that completely, totally, utterly, for all eternity, utterly totally completely broke suspension of disbelief. Forever.

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    Her roommie does pronounce "math" with that Engish lisp. Maybe it's contagious?

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    6 years 2 months ago #11 by Katssun
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  • Dreamer wrote:

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    Isn't Tia in Melville because Hikaru is in Melville? Tia is publicly outed to the world, so it really doesn't matter which cottage she's in, and putting her in Poe might risk the secret, though her current level of anxiety and medical condition would still justify it. Actually, her medical condition might be a good reason to keep her out of Poe, now that I think about it.

    So anyway, I might be completely off base, but isn't Mazarin hinting that Mrs. Horton that he's violating the policy to put Changelings in Poe

    Hikaru is royalty (more or less?), and her changeling status is a Imperial House secret. Revealing it would be a major political and social blow to Japan, especially since she's also Amaterasu's avatar.

    Hikaru needs Tia as support. That's why Tia is there. Even if it takes a long time for Hikaru to confide more in Tia.
    6 years 2 months ago #12 by Astrodragon
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  • Katssun wrote:

    Dreamer wrote:

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    Isn't Tia in Melville because Hikaru is in Melville? Tia is publicly outed to the world, so it really doesn't matter which cottage she's in, and putting her in Poe might risk the secret, though her current level of anxiety and medical condition would still justify it. Actually, her medical condition might be a good reason to keep her out of Poe, now that I think about it.

    So anyway, I might be completely off base, but isn't Mazarin hinting that Mrs. Horton that he's violating the policy to put Changelings in Poe

    Hikaru is royalty (more or less?), and her changeling status is a Imperial House secret. Revealing it would be a major political and social blow to Japan, especially since she's also Amaterasu's avatar.

    Hikaru needs Tia as support. That's why Tia is there. Even if it takes a long time for Hikaru to confide more in Tia.


    Anything specific about Tia, you really need to ask Nagrij.
    But given that Tia is on meds, undergoing councelling, and generally a nutso bunny, moving her to Poe for mental issues would be perfectly reasonable - after all, it is the crazy cottage.

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    6 years 2 months ago #13 by Kettlekorn
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  • I don't see the section of the story you're discussing. It jumps from Monday evening with the earplugs to Tuesday at lunch, with no mention of Mazarin. Has there been an accidental deletion during editing?

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    6 years 2 months ago - 6 years 2 months ago #14 by Malady
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  • Kettlekorn wrote: I don't see the section of the story you're discussing. It jumps from Monday evening with the earplugs to Tuesday at lunch, with no mention of Mazarin. Has there been an accidental deletion during editing?


    Not exactly, an accidental deletion, post-posting...

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    In possibly related things... Where does Calibrate room?
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  • Sorry, this loss of a couple sections happened when I made an update to the file... it will be fixed shortly.

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    6 years 2 months ago #16 by Astrodragon
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  • I've been asked about the English translation of the song Morgana was singing, so...

    Its "Ar Hyd y Nos" - English: All Through the Night

    All the stars' twinkles say
    All through the night
    "This is the way to the realm of glory,"
    All through the night.
    Other light is darkness
    To show true beauty
    The Heavenly family in peace
    All through the night.

    O, how cheerful smiles the star,
    All through the night
    To light its earthly sister
    All through the night.
    Old age is night when affliction comes
    But to beautify man in his late days
    We'll put our weak light together
    All through the night.

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    6 years 2 months ago - 6 years 2 months ago #17 by Astrodragon
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  • Dreamer wrote:


    Morgana being so happy, she is having time with Thulia more, could this be the source of her worsening control?


    Morgana having her power screwed up because she's happy?
    No, it's not that.
    I might be evil, but I'm not THAT evil!

    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
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  • Astrodragon wrote:

    Dreamer wrote:

    Morgana being so happy, she is having time with Thulia more, could this be the source of her worsening control?


    Morgana having her power screwed up because she's happy?
    No, it's not that.
    I might be evil, but I'm not THAT evil!


    I don't know about that - you keep claiming in our authors chats that since my angst got all used up by flooding, rebuild, and knee surgery (and pain), you're going to take over as King of Angst. Under those conditions, yes you would do that.

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  • elrodw wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote:

    Dreamer wrote:

    Morgana being so happy, she is having time with Thulia more, could this be the source of her worsening control?


    Morgana having her power screwed up because she's happy?
    No, it's not that.
    I might be evil, but I'm not THAT evil!


    I don't know about that - you keep claiming in our authors chats that since my angst got all used up by flooding, rebuild, and knee surgery (and pain), you're going to take over as King of Angst. Under those conditions, yes you would do that.


    I didn't say I wouldn't be evil to her in a different way!

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    6 years 2 months ago #20 by Malady
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  • Astrodragon wrote:

    elrodw wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote:

    Dreamer wrote:

    Morgana being so happy, she is having time with Thulia more, could this be the source of her worsening control?


    Morgana having her power screwed up because she's happy?
    No, it's not that.
    I might be evil, but I'm not THAT evil!


    I don't know about that - you keep claiming in our authors chats that since my angst got all used up by flooding, rebuild, and knee surgery (and pain), you're going to take over as King of Angst. Under those conditions, yes you would do that.


    I didn't say I wouldn't be evil to her in a different way!


    So, you said her magic isn't screwed up 'cause she's happy...

    You never rejected the idea that Thulia connections are causing it... Hmm...
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  • As long as we are talking about editing problems (there were two whole scenes added after I first downloaded the story -- the above scene with Horton and Mazarin, and another scene with Hikaru and some girl who apparently got transferred to Poe from Melville, maybe as a swap for Tia)...

    ...when Morgana is doing her magical prepping, she pricks her finger with her athame and lets 3 drops of.... WATER... fall onto the bowl. Shouldn't it be "blood"?

    A few scattered typos...
    After Calculus class, there's this: "I haven’t started t o get serious yet."
    At one point, Morgana muses she would be "flat groke"
    "So, what are we going to do about setting some wards up in Erica and Calls room?" -> should be "Cally's"
    "The feel fine, but I can’t tell any difference" -> Should be "They"

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  • I'm sorry, Dan had some issues.
    It looks liek he reloaded a version without some typo corrections, yes, its blood not water

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  • Astrodragon wrote: I'm sorry, Dan had some issues.
    It looks like he reloaded a version without some typo corrections, yes, its blood not water


    Yep, it was my goof... I thought I had the most recent copy in my files (mistakenly) and replaced the file online... as it turned out it was missing those two sections and some typo corrections. it'll be fixed-up shortly.

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  • I am somewhat surprised no-one's commented on the title.:D

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  • OH!

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    Intriguing!

    How much of the story is a poem reference, and how much should I be looking for ghosts, I wonder... Ghosts... Penny Dreadful? Hmm... *shrug*
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  • Penny doesn't do ghosts, she does zombies.Or rather psuedo-zombies (Nagrij wouldn't let her license real ones)

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  • Matsu was moved to Poe, from Melville.

    We still dunno why, right?

    Also, since Matsu is all girl-collect-y, might adding Lapin in, might 'cause problems 'cause she's the Bunny Girl type, and would trigger Matsu, or something? She'd be the medical reason to keep Lapin far away?
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  • Well, from the perspective of Morgana, in Poe, she doesn't know the details of why.
    Of course, that doesn't have any effect on the rumours..:)

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  • Wooo! Part 2!

    And ninja'd! Ha!

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  • Interesting to see a couple of suspiciously specific disclaimers on Horton's part. TBF, Hecate was unlikely to be the first or the last to try their hand at demon-wrangling
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  • Thinking more about fake wands [ Click to expand ]

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  • Dreamer wrote: White Snake gives the perfect answer, can see why AJ has a crush on her.


    White Snake's first name is James. He's a Melvillain, but there's no accounting for wealth, or something.

    Dreamer wrote: Whoa, the difference between wands and defensive items seems a lot now.


    In Western systems, wands and staves tend to be symbolic of fire (just as knives and swords are symbolic of air). Maybe not the best choice for passive defense magics, but where there's a Will there's a Way.

    Dreamer wrote: Oh crud, Morgana up against Crysis again and pulls out a holdout, so that is what the fake wand was for. No powers and Morgana takes him down in a minute or so, another arm-lock, more painful than needed just to get Crysis mad and losing his temper. Fake wand out of sleeve pocket and into her hand, aiming her wand and making gestures at Crysis, and the idiot yanks the wand out of her hand. And he used his TK to deliberately break it, lucky that isn't a real wand or he would be in trouble I think.


    There's probably a story or two there. You wouldn't want your wand to explode in your hands after you've sat on it. Or, in your child's mouth once they master crawling, putting things in mouth, and chewing.

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  • With how Wands work, it's possible to make a functional Myrtenaster (Weiss's weapon)..

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  • mhalpern wrote: With how Wands work, it's possible to make a functional Myrtenaster (Weiss's weapon)..


    I had no idea what this was. Apparently its a Multi Action Dust Rapier
    Presumably licenced from Dyson...

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  • It's from RWBY... With some of the cast being known to be fans of the show...

    In RWBY dust is basically materia from final fantasy, with Weiss you have a character who's semblance (special abilities) are around glyphs, and her sword helps her summon the glyphs...

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  • Adam from another's POV comes off as remarkably insensitive, especially considering he has his own hangups about swimming and went through a little panic attack as well at school very early on. But from Adam's background, his perspective makes complete and total sense.

    The Nephandus side of things has also been super interesting from a presentation perspective. In the earliest stories, it was presented as if he will be going after Morgana, assuming he could find her, or even learn that the cult project was the creation of Morgana as a battery. Then recently, it felt more like he would be going after Thulia in her new location, in order to lure or bait Morgana out of hiding. Now...we have no idea who he just extracted or what faction the hostages represent. We don't know how much he knows or how far along the trail he is at this point!

    Tia, natural leader and social influencer? Makes sense, but from the perspective of her non-Melville friends, she just looks like a complete paranoid basketcase on the very brink of a mental breakdown.

    As for Morgana, she was very carefully designed by Thulia. But maybe, just maybe, did Thulia goof and make Morgana a little too connected to the fire plane? Is something else coming through that connection, or trying to? Morgana's description of the sensation right before the burnout seemed like a major, major hint.
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  • On who and what those mercenaries are after - it was said a few episodes ago, actually.
    The two men they rescued are the last known survivors from the cult of the Red Ba'al's island staff.
    Just how much they know about what was going on remains to be seen, but they do have one rather important bit of intel - they aren't searching for plans, or a machine, they are looking for a girl...

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  • What, you think a character is destined not to die just because they are a character? :evil:

    However, after a fair bit of setting the plot out (aka as teasing by some of you!), you will learn what's been going on with Morgana in the next part of the story. There have been a number of suppositions, a few reasonably close, a lot not, but no-ones nailed it yet :D

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  • Astrodragon wrote: On who and what those mercenaries are after - it was said a few episodes ago, actually.
    The two men they rescued are the last known survivors from the cult of the Red Ba'al's island staff.
    Just how much they know about what was going on remains to be seen, but they do have one rather important bit of intel - they aren't searching for plans, or a machine, they are looking for a girl...

    So is it too much to hope that Neph is doing this to repay a solid to either Jadis (whom would be up trading it with Whateley) or Caitlin (whom is owed a solid for his continued life after he tried to bind her)?

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    Astrodragon wrote: On who and what those mercenaries are after - it was said a few episodes ago, actually.
    The two men they rescued are the last known survivors from the cult of the Red Ba'al's island staff.
    Just how much they know about what was going on remains to be seen, but they do have one rather important bit of intel - they aren't searching for plans, or a machine, they are looking for a girl...

    So is it too much to hope that Neph is doing this to repay a solid to either Jadis (whom would be up trading it with Whateley) or Caitlin (whom is owed a solid for his continued life after he tried to bind her)?


    I'm afraid it is too much to hope for, Neph is doing this for filthy lucre.
    Of course, things may get more interesting for him when they tell him what the next target is...:evil:

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  • Astrodragon wrote: I'm afraid it is too much to hope for, Neph is doing this for filthy lucre.


    "Nephandus, old boy, we've established what you are. This is just haggling over the hourly fees."

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  • Astrodragon wrote: Of course, things may get more interesting for him when they tell him what the next target is...:evil:

    To be fair, he has such a great track record securing extra-dimensional sources of power housed within girls.
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  • I'm not sure who wanted to acquire the 'hostages' that Nephandus had 'rescued' whether it was a personal project or he was acting as a point of contact for another group. I sort of got the feeling that he acts as an information (or persons) broker, so it could just be that he knew the mercenaries, and had been contacted to recover the 'hostages'. It should be recalled however that Nephandus does say that said 'hostages' were not supposed to be being kept alive but had been condemned to die. But someone got cute with that order and decided to either torture them for fun or profit. So I'm not very worried about what happes to the prisoners while the Major is transporting them. They were supposed to be dead. Because they aren't dead, Morgana is in danger of the reformation of the cult that tried to turn her into a slave!
    And while a quick death is too kind for such monsters, I'd rather they had been eliminated than that they were alive to escape!
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  • The hostages are wanted by the cult that kidnapped Morgana in the first place.
    So from Morgana's pov its a shame they weren't accidentally killed during the rescue!

    Nowadays one of the things Nephandus (and his father) are doing is acting as brokers and facilitators. Sort of like Jadis but with more guns and demons involved..:D :D

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  • Astrodragon wrote: The hostages are wanted by the cult that kidnapped Morgana in the first place.
    So from Morgana's pov its a shame they weren't accidentally killed during the rescue!

    Nowadays one of the things Nephandus (and his father) are doing is acting as brokers and facilitators. Sort of like Jadis but with more guns and demons involved..:D :D

    I wasn't sure that the cult was behind this 'rescue' or not. If so, BRRRR!!!
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  • The titbit I'm curious about is that Morgana specifically states that Fey isn't a member of staff but only has connections with the school, while in "Sunshine and Fury" she is described as a member of the magic department.

    I wonder if this is a case of an imperfect narrator, or if Fey's position with the school is more interesting than the average staff member.
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  • Yes, Morgana is an inperrfect narrator - all our characters are.

    You don't have to be a member of staff to be in a deparment, or vice-versa. although most are. For example, we have Caitlin.

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  • For Morgana to be a purrfect narrator she would have to be a catgirl. And unless she's a catdragongirl there is no evidence that she is a catgirl, so she must be an impurrfect narrator!!
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  • Astrodragon wrote: You don't have to be a member of staff to be in a deparment, or vice-versa. although most are. For example, we have Caitlin.


    OK, that answers a question I had. Fey's relationship to the Magic Department is subject to Quantum Weirdness - it depends on the observer.
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  • Hebblejebble wrote: ...or if Fey's position with the school is more interesting than the average staff member.


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  • Well, a world tree is a bit big to cultivate.
    Maybe a bonsai one?

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  • Astrodragon wrote: Well, a world tree is a bit big to cultivate.
    Maybe a bonsai one?


    I can picture Ito Sensei having the patience and careful planning for that.

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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: Well, a world tree is a bit big to cultivate.
    Maybe a bonsai one?


    I can picture Ito Sensei having the patience and careful planning for that.

    Especially now that he is officially retired... That is if he didn't slip through the same fracture of reality that swallowed Dr Carson, et al?
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  • Bianca : What is that on the shelf, and why is it smoking??

    Morgana: It's my birthday present from Thulia. It's a Bonsai Volcano.

    Bianca : .....

    (sorry, channelling Terry Prachett here)

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  • mhalpern wrote: hmm can they deliver the remains of that parasite to the surviving members of the cult?

    Except for the collateral damage it would be nice if they could detonate the parasite in their midst!
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  • Anne wrote:

    mhalpern wrote: hmm can they deliver the remains of that parasite to the surviving members of the cult?

    Except for the collateral damage it would be nice if they could detonate the parasite in their midst!



    Well there is the possibility of portal field containment, that way it can get all their cells and minimize collateral..,

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  • I finally get around to reading part 2 and then part 3 goes up later that same day.

    Also: classic Caitlin "Gives-no-F***s" Bardue.

    Insanity: for when normal just isn't interesting enough.
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  • Hmm I just realized, there's a big freaking loophole in the rules they set, possibly intentionally placed there. "The rules Morgana follows" so what about rules she doesn't follow?

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  • Angeldude wrote: I finally get around to reading part 2 and then part 3 goes up later that same day.

    Also: classic Caitlin "Gives-no-F***s" Bardue.


    Stories are on the same schedule as busses.. :-p

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  • mhalpern wrote: Hmm I just realized, there's a big freaking loophole in the rules they set, possibly intentionally placed there. "The rules Morgana follows" so what about rules she doesn't follow?


    Ah, no, there isn't that particular loophole.
    Saying 'the rules Morgana is supposed to follow' would have been quite insulting to Morgana. Note that while she bent them a fair bit with her alfresco demon-summoning stuff, she was very careful to check she wasn't actually breaking any.
    So basically Thulia is agreeing to follow the school rules as set out for the students.

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  • Astrodragon wrote:

    mhalpern wrote: Hmm I just realized, there's a big freaking loophole in the rules they set, possibly intentionally placed there. "The rules Morgana follows" so what about rules she doesn't follow?


    Ah, no, there isn't that particular loophole.
    Saying 'the rules Morgana is supposed to follow' would have been quite insulting to Morgana. Note that while she bent them a fair bit with her alfresco demon-summoning stuff, she was very careful to check she wasn't actually breaking any.
    So basically Thulia is agreeing to follow the school rules as set out for the students.

    I was thinking more in terms of the non-enforceable rule when dealing with teenagers with exemplar hormones....

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  • There are a number of gotchas, some of them subtle, in the conditions Thulia has agreed to accept.
    What, you think I'd make it simple and easy? :-p

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    A robotDemon may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. A robotDemon must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. A robotDemon must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

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  • Astrodragon wrote: So basically Thulia is agreeing to follow the school rules as set out for the students.


    What could possibly go wrong with that implied intent?

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  • I do get the impression that some (many?) people are thinking that having a demonic, sexy girlfriend visiting her at Whately will be a good, fun thing for Morgana.

    Really?

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  • Astrodragon wrote: I do get the impression that some (many?) people are thinking that having a demonic, sexy girlfriend visiting her at Whately will be a good, fun thing for Morgana.

    Really?


    Technically demonic, as she's native to a different plane, correct? So there might be some cultural differences to overcome (like age of consent) And their enemies list might end up more than the sum of their separate lists of enemies... Water signs/elementals can really hold a grudge or ten.


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  • Well, technically shes an extraplanar entity, but while there are lots of different types, most of the intelligent ones are lumped togther as demons. Or sometimes angels, depending on how good their PR is :)

    Cultural differences..as yes, there will be more on them another time.

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  • As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted wrote: Ophelia shrugged as she stood up. "Honestly, I don't know. First thing is to get her stable and see what we can find out, then we can take it from there. Elyzia, I assume you got the same notification?"

    Grimes nodded. "Yes, she's on my magical watch list. I'll join you in Doyle shortly."


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    As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted wrote: Ophelia shrugged as she stood up. "Honestly, I don't know. First thing is to get her stable and see what we can find out, then we can take it from there. Elyzia, I assume you got the same notification?"

    Grimes nodded. "Yes, she's on my magical watch list. I'll join you in Doyle shortly."


    Magical watch list? What's that about?


    Basically its students who have , or might have, medical/body issues related to magic.
    So if something happens to them, Grimes knows about it

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  • Astrodragon wrote: There are a number of gotchas, some of them subtle, in the conditions Thulia has agreed to accept.


    I'm not going to try and find all the hypothetical loopholes in Thulia's conditions, the writing here is so good that, when reading, I'd rather enjoy the moment than try to find out if I was right but there were two things that leapt out to me:

    1. Thulia agreed to have her powers limited by the Caitlin's pendant, i.e. Anything the pendant doesn't block is implicitly allowed (at least by that condition).

    2. Unless I'm seriously underestimating Thulia's knowledge base she probably doesn't know the full set of student rules she's agreed to follow. What happends if she encounters a rule that she doesn't know about?
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  • Hebblejebble wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: There are a number of gotchas, some of them subtle, in the conditions Thulia has agreed to accept.


    I'm not going to try and find all the hypothetical loopholes in Thulia's conditions, the writing here is so good that, when reading, I'd rather enjoy the moment than try to find out if I was right but there were two things that leapt out to me:

    1. Thulia agreed to have her powers limited by the Caitlin's pendant, i.e. Anything the pendant doesn't block is implicitly allowed (at least by that condition).

    2. Unless I'm seriously underestimating Thulia's knowledge base she probably doesn't know the full set of student rules she's agreed to follow. What happends if she encounters a rule that she doesn't know about?


    The main issue for Grimes and the pendant is limiting powers she possesses as a extradimensional entity. Grimes doesn't actually know what, if any, they are, but the problem is that people at the school have little or no defence against them. So blocking is playing it safe. As Thulia pointed out, she'll still have Morgana's power set, but that sort of thing Whateley is geared up to handle.

    Your very likely correct on Thulia's knowledge of the school rules, but then how many students actually know them? A few, like the fixers and the bookies probably do, the rest don't really bother. As per the contract, she has to obey them, whether or not she knows about them.

    And I'm glad you like the writing!

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  • So she's limited by Morgana's power set. Do we actually know what it is? It that limitation to her current power set, or to what Morgana will eventually be capable of, if she lives long enough? And she's already been shown to be able to find loopholes in contracts the signatories thought were flawless.

    Where's Pretty Evil Boy when we need him for contract negotiation? Oh, right. He's waiting in the wings; he just didn't show up in this part.
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  • Thulia's power as such isn't significantly higher than Morgana's, but she has it under control, plus a lot of training in magic and the applications of her fire. So she can do more with it.
    But she isn't super-powerful. and isnt intended to be.

    Nephandus is currently gainfully employed by the bad guys :D

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  • Astrodragon wrote: Thulia's power as such isn't significantly higher than Morgana's, but she has it under control, plus a lot of training in magic and the applications of her fire. So she can do more with it.
    But she isn't super-powerful. and isnt intended to be.

    Nephandus is currently gainfully employed by the bad guys :D

    Besides if you want someone to negotiate a contract you're better off meeting Jadis Frost's price. She's less likely to insert a dagger in the paperwork that she can use to stab you in the back than most others, (at least if you meet her price) might be!!
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  • Astrodragon wrote: I do get the impression that some (many?) people are thinking that having a demonic, sexy girlfriend visiting her at Whately will be a good, fun thing for Morgana.

    Really?


    Very attached, territorial, demonic ethical/moral compass? Won't be a problem!

    Thulia's degree of control is very high though. She does fancy things with her magical computers that maybe Caitlin can do by instinct alone, but without any of the authoritative conclusions that Thulia reaches. Like identifying the parasite. Caitlin saw it, knew it was off, but had no idea what it was. Thulia figured it out almost immediately, baseline comparison or no.

    Morgana has a very finely tuned magical sense, even if it is monochromatic, and I know we've discussed it before in another thread, but with Morgana's levels of sensitivity, presumably based off Thulia's own, and Thulia's level of control...how limited is Thulia really? Could she do Sara levels of magical genetic manipulation? Or perhaps limited to just analysis?

    The story made it clear that Thulia was putting on a bit of a show for the magic department. Emphasizing some things and downplaying others. How much of that was also going on from the Whateley staff in Thulia's direction?
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    Astrodragon wrote: I do get the impression that some (many?) people are thinking that having a demonic, sexy girlfriend visiting her at Whately will be a good, fun thing for Morgana.

    Really?


    Very attached, territorial, demonic ethical/moral compass? Won't be a problem!

    Thulia's degree of control is very high though. She does fancy things with her magical computers that maybe Caitlin can do by instinct alone, but without any of the authoritative conclusions that Thulia reaches. Like identifying the parasite. Caitlin saw it, knew it was off, but had no idea what it was. Thulia figured it out almost immediately, baseline comparison or no.

    Morgana has a very finely tuned magical sense, even if it is monochromatic, and I know we've discussed it before in another thread, but with Morgana's levels of sensitivity, presumably based off Thulia's own, and Thulia's level of control...how limited is Thulia really? Could she do Sara levels of magical genetic manipulation? Or perhaps limited to just analysis?

    The story made it clear that Thulia was putting on a bit of a show for the magic department. Emphasizing some things and downplaying others. How much of that was also going on from the Whateley staff in Thulia's direction?


    Caitlin can actually do stuff Thulia can't do, or at least do easily. Thulia's techniques offer efficiency, particularly in some areas, but a lot of it isn't new - just easier.

    Think of it (very roughly) as Thulia being a scientists, Caitlin a practical hand-on engineer.

    No, Thulia can't do a lot of Sarah's stuff, because she isn't a GOO (even if only a baby one!). Analysis, sure, except for BITS - there are things with them only a GOO can do,

    As to the Magic department putting on a face for Thulia - why yes, to a certain extent.No-one wants to show all their cards face-up, after all.

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  • Katssun wrote: The story made it clear that Thulia was putting on a bit of a show for the magic department. Emphasizing some things and downplaying others. How much of that was also going on from the Whateley staff in Thulia's direction?


    Ms. Grimes, a student of Raven, let others to come to their own incorrect assumptions? Perish the thought!

    Astrodragon wrote: As to the Magic department putting on a face for Thulia - why yes, to a certain extent.No-one wants to show all their cards face-up, after all.


    Especially if one of those is Fey's dance card.

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  • Something that would have been funny:

    "I can only estimate it, but my initial calculations would make it about 30 kilotons in human terms." - Thulia
    "Well that's a relief" - Fey (quietly)
    Everyone people turns to look at Fey questioningly. Some start considering what/who she's referring to and get nervous.

    She has seen numbers nearly 150 thousand times higher.

    Insanity: for when normal just isn't interesting enough.
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  • Well, it's not a relief if you're standing next to it!
    Or not really sure when it will happen - thats a major r eason they moved so fast, the longer they leave things the greater the chance of an exploding dragon

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  • Astrodragon wrote: Well, it's not a relief if you're standing next to it!
    Or not really sure when it will happen - thats a major r eason they moved so fast, the longer they leave things the greater the chance of an exploding dragon

    Yes but Fey lived next door to Billy Wilson. AKA Tennyo, AKA The STAR STALKER. If Billy had lost cohesion.... estimates were the entire Eastern seaboard at a minimum, possibly enough to convert the Earth to a second asteroid belt...
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  • Anne wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: Well, it's not a relief if you're standing next to it!
    Or not really sure when it will happen - thats a major r eason they moved so fast, the longer they leave things the greater the chance of an exploding dragon

    Yes but Fey lived next door to Billy Wilson. AKA Tennyo, AKA The STAR STALKER. If Billy had lost cohesion.... estimates were the entire Eastern seaboard at a minimum, possibly enough to convert the Earth to a second asteroid belt...


    Don't forget that Fey, herself, is a source of a potential magical explosion of that magnitude, should anything go wrong.

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  • Well, we have tried to tome things down a bit from G1.
    In any case, from Morgana's pov it doesn't really matter how much she explodes, just that she does :P

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  • I am slightly surprised at the lack of comments and supposition on Thulia's grandmother. I guess you weren't interested in her with two hot teens to be worrying about :D

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  • Astrodragon wrote: I am slightly surprised at the lack of comments and supposition on Thulia's grandmother. I guess you weren't interested in her with two hot teens to be worrying about :D


    I noted that but wasn't inclined to comment. The description suggests she's a succubus or something like that. The description of Thulia's formal robes suggests something similar. Of course, it may simply be that, as some kind of feminine fire spirit, that's how "hot stuff" manifests on the physical plane. Of course, if Thulia has the same effect on males that her grandmother does, there will be some interesting times as she wanders around Whateley. I wonder if she had anything to do with Adore (from Gen 1).
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  • No, nothing to do with Adore.
    As to the rest...hmm, actually we haven't seen Thulia interacting with any males, except the cult, and that doesn't really count.
    You'll have to wait and see what happens when she does, I guess :D

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  • XaltatunOfAcheron wrote: Before I forget: I also noticed that the agreement doesn't seem to include a clause allowing Bruce to come with.


    You're quite correct, Bruce isn't included. He'll be staying at home, keeping an eye on things and drinking beer.
    Anyway, he'd only be a bad influence on the kids.

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  • Re: Tanau, I figure she's got an interesting and lively past that easily predates Gen1. Considering fire by itself likes to go all in damn the torpedoes! style, no demands, no regrets, "lively" could be an understatement.

    Someone's got to scandalize the young'uns!

    Astrodragon wrote: You're quite correct, Bruce isn't included. He'll be staying at home, keeping an eye on things and drinking beer.
    Anyway, he'd only be a bad influence on the kids.


    Smart guy. Of course, if it were Gen1, the kids might be a bad influence on him.

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  • Astrodragon wrote: Well, we have tried to tome things down a bit from G1.
    In any case, from Morgana's pov it doesn't really matter how much she explodes, just that she does :P


    VERY understandable. Kimba went a bit too DBZ. It's fine if that's what you like, but balanced it ain't.

    Insanity: for when normal just isn't interesting enough.
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  • null0trooper wrote: Re: Tanau, I figure she's got an interesting and lively past that easily predates Gen1. Considering fire by itself likes to go all in damn the torpedoes! style, no demands, no regrets, "lively" could be an understatement.

    Someone's got to scandalize the young'uns!

    Astrodragon wrote: You're quite correct, Bruce isn't included. He'll be staying at home, keeping an eye on things and drinking beer.
    Anyway, he'd only be a bad influence on the kids.


    Smart guy. Of course, if it were Gen1, the kids might be a bad influence on him.


    Oh yes, Tanau WAY predates Gen1
    Interesting? I hope so :)

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  • Have we even got a physical description of Tanau?

    ... I actually hope not, as then I have less to find / write for the wiki...

    How to describe her love life / history thing? "She has been in love.", could cut it?
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    For the moment, tall, voluptuous with long purple hair should do, you can change it when I give a full description in a story.

    MM, you could just say she has an interesting and complicated past :D

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  • Whooo!

    I was so worried, about whether Morgana would actually make it out intact, or if there's some super-mega-twist that would happen like being thrown into an alternate universe or something for reals.

    That final Scenario before the big battle! A classic Scenario, but really effective! And I guess it was limited by the need for an Essential Flaw?

    ----

    Date <redacted>, Time <redacted>, Location <redacted with extreme prejudice>


    Interesting... Redaction means that the info is known to someone, and that it exists... I wonder what that info is...

    Maybe those places were real alternate universes or something...

    ----

    Morgana not being fully healed... And it taking several weeks for full restoration... Bad... Too many things can happen in weeks. And that link, where power can be drawn. And Halloween happening in a few weeks, where the Veils are weak...

    How long will it take Thulia to get back to full strength, hmm?
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  • Malady wrote: How long will it take Thulia to get back to full strength, hmm?


    Ask her no questions, she'll tell you no lies.

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  • Malady wrote: Whooo!

    I was so worried, about whether Morgana would actually make it out intact, or if there's some super-mega-twist that would happen like being thrown into an alternate universe or something for reals.

    That final Scenario before the big battle! A classic Scenario, but really effective! And I guess it was limited by the need for an Essential Flaw?

    ----

    Date <redacted>, Time <redacted>, Location <redacted with extreme prejudice>


    Interesting... Redaction means that the info is known to someone, and that it exists... I wonder what that info is...

    Maybe those places were real alternate universes or something...

    ----

    Morgana not being fully healed... And it taking several weeks for full restoration... Bad... Too many things can happen in weeks. And that link, where power can be drawn. And Halloween happening in a few weeks, where the Veils are weak...

    How long will it take Thulia to get back to full strength, hmm?


    Not long, she'll be fine in the morning. Its to do with how integrated her (and Morgana's) body is with her magic, I'll probably say more on this in the next story or so

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  • Actually Morgans not being immediately back to full strength may be a blessing in disguise, until now she has basically been wearing a weight that has been getting heavier and heavier over time, and now it's gone, she doesn't know her strength and will over power things. This counts towards her physical strength as well given that she is like an energizer but powered by magic. Kinda like Ribbon's problem with strength after manifesting, if she didn't realize she had it and thought she was already used to her powers, but with magic on top ..

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  • mhalpern wrote: Actually Morgans not being immediately back to full strength may be a blessing in disguise, until now she has basically been wearing a weight that has been getting heavier and heavier over time, and now it's gone, she doesn't know her strength and will over power things. This counts towards her physical strength as well given that she is like an energizer but powered by magic. Kinda like Ribbon's problem with strength after manifesting, if she didn't realize she had it and thought she was already used to her powers, but with magic on top ..


    Well she isn't really going to get more powerful, but what she will do it get more flexibility. While she will have to relearn casting spells in her Dragonform, now they wont go crazy. It will let her carry on developing her abilities, for a while this has been blocked by the parasites presence.
    From now on exploding bunnies will be deliberate! :)

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  • Astrodragon wrote:

    mhalpern wrote: Actually Morgans not being immediately back to full strength may be a blessing in disguise, until now she has basically been wearing a weight that has been getting heavier and heavier over time, and now it's gone, she doesn't know her strength and will over power things. This counts towards her physical strength as well given that she is like an energizer but powered by magic. Kinda like Ribbon's problem with strength after manifesting, if she didn't realize she had it and thought she was already used to her powers, but with magic on top ..


    Well she isn't really going to get more powerful, but what she will do it get more flexibility. While she will have to relearn casting spells in her Dragonform, now they wont go crazy. It will let her carry on developing her abilities, for a while this has been blocked by the parasites presence.
    From now on exploding bunnies will be deliberate! :)

    I wasn't thinking more power per say, necessarily, just a lot more ease in accessing it. Which early on will make her intuition on how hard to push things cause mishaps.

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  • mhalpern wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote:

    mhalpern wrote: Actually Morgans not being immediately back to full strength may be a blessing in disguise, until now she has basically been wearing a weight that has been getting heavier and heavier over time, and now it's gone, she doesn't know her strength and will over power things. This counts towards her physical strength as well given that she is like an energizer but powered by magic. Kinda like Ribbon's problem with strength after manifesting, if she didn't realize she had it and thought she was already used to her powers, but with magic on top ..


    Well she isn't really going to get more powerful, but what she will do it get more flexibility. While she will have to relearn casting spells in her Dragonform, now they wont go crazy. It will let her carry on developing her abilities, for a while this has been blocked by the parasites presence.
    From now on exploding bunnies will be deliberate! :)

    I wasn't thinking more power per say, necessarily, just a lot more ease in accessing it. Which early on will make her intuition on how hard to push things cause mishaps.


    Yes, there will be issues. Some good, some bad, and at least one... interesting :D

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  • Thulia's flame magic changes color based on the effects she's using, as seen from the perspective of Caitlin and Bruce.

    But Morgana is magic colorblind. Or at least was.

    Was the blue flame she channeled in the [unspecified] realm...I don't really know where I'm going with this question. I guess what I'm trying to ask is that has Morgana's sensitivity changed, was it blocked previously, or will she start picking up some of Thulia's different applications during "study sessions" when she visits?
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  • Katssun wrote: Thulia's flame magic changes color based on the effects she's using, as seen from the perspective of Caitlin and Bruce.

    But Morgana is magic colorblind. Or at least was.

    Was the blue flame she channeled in the [unspecified] realm...I don't really know where I'm going with this question. I guess what I'm trying to ask is that has Morgana's sensitivity changed, was it blocked previously, or will she start picking up some of Thulia's different applications during "study sessions" when she visits?


    Morgana is still colour-blind as concerns magic. So while types of magic are traditionally associated with colours, she can't tell.
    However the coloured flame effects are visible to her, as they are a physical thing.
    The blue flame was just that with the xtra power her flame was burning really hot.

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  • A few points for Dreamer.

    (1) Yes, that chain is orichalcum. It's horribly expensive stuff, which is why Thulia only has it on loan (among other reasons)

    (2) Thulia's bracers :) Actually, I gave away the why of them earlier in the story. The full story will come out later if you missed it.

    (3) With no artificial light to ruin it, and no cloud, a humans night vision is surprisingly good. Morgana's is better, so seeing stuff by starlight is pretty easy.

    (4) Is the parasite uncreative? Well, it's hellspawn, and while its old and cunning, it's not that smart. There is also the issue of how creative hellspawn can be as well.

    (5) The 'make them think they were crazy' trope is, when done well, horribly effective. It may be a trope, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work. And when you can't prove its fake...

    (6) Oh, you'll see more of the cult soon.

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  • Haven't encountered it in fiction too often myself, but the psychiatric ward stuff was deeply terrifying, as it tends to be. Thankfully Morgana deduced her way out of that, much like she did with the cult cell. Regarding the latter though... reliving such things even if one knows they're falsified, well that's going to mess her up a little, most likely. An extra session or two with Bellows is warranted at the very least.

    I too picked up on the wording of "the flaw" as opposed to "a flaw", and immediately thought of the Essential Flaw rule. Whether that's incidental or not doesn't really matter though, right?

    I have concerns for Morgana's wellbeing, as multiple antagonistic groups are all readying to make moves during her recovery window, IIRC.

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  • Morgana will certainly be booking extra time with Bellows over the next couple of weeks.
    And yes, there are a few people who will look to take advantage of her until shes fully recovered.

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    Or was I too subtle about it?

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  • Astrodragon wrote: A few points for Dreamer.

    (1) Yes, that chain is orichalcum. It's horribly expensive stuff, which is why Thulia only has it on loan (among other reasons)

    (


    If she can manipulate orichalcum, that rules out quite a few demonic origins for Thulia e.a.

    So what could she be when she is closely tied to the (elemental?) plane of fire, has horns and wings but does not seem to be associated with demons of humanity's lore. (and in fact, when she was observing justice being meted out (rather than the vengeance she first wanted) her thoughts suggested that while she could visit the infernal part of the divine/infernal spectrum, it was not something she and her grandmother were directly related nor practially involved with.

    So likely nothing mythos related (or the orichalcum would have been a much bigger problem for her), nothing directly demonic as humanity's major religions understand that, and Jinns are kind of unlikely too .
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  • Erianaiel wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: A few points for Dreamer.

    (1) Yes, that chain is orichalcum. It's horribly expensive stuff, which is why Thulia only has it on loan (among other reasons)

    (


    If she can manipulate orichalcum, that rules out quite a few demonic origins for Thulia e.a.

    So what could she be when she is closely tied to the (elemental?) plane of fire, has horns and wings but does not seem to be associated with demons of humanity's lore. (and in fact, when she was observing justice being meted out (rather than the vengeance she first wanted) her thoughts suggested that while she could visit the infernal part of the divine/infernal spectrum, it was not something she and her grandmother were directly related nor practially involved with.

    So likely nothing mythos related (or the orichalcum would have been a much bigger problem for her), nothing directly demonic as humanity's major religions understand that, and Jinns are kind of unlikely too .


    Thulia is definitely not hellspawn, as was shown in the origin story. I'll give you a freebie, she's not class X/GOO either.

    Exactly what she is, I don't want to reveal just yet (I'll just let you worry about it!)

    The only time we've seen orichalcum, we learned that being killed by an orichalcum weapon would have been deadly to Sarah (a GOO), although it wasn't clear if it would have been permanently fatal or (more likely) destroyed her form on this plane.

    But even if it was as deadly to Thulia, there is a big difference between getting your head lopped off by something and just touching it. After all, there are quite a few materials which are deadly to humans but can be handled safely, or with proper precautions.

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  • Erianaiel wrote: So what could she be when she is closely tied to the (elemental?) plane of fire, has horns and wings but does not seem to be associated with demons of humanity's lore. (and in fact, when she was observing justice being meted out (rather than the vengeance she first wanted) her thoughts suggested that while she could visit the infernal part of the divine/infernal spectrum, it was not something she and her grandmother were directly related nor practially involved with.


    There's no reason (aside from story context or WoG) precluding her from being a jinn or some other race native to a plane that's metaphysically tied to fire as an element. This isn't D&D, so jinn (or any other sentient race) don't have to all have the same stats, alignments, goals, etc.

    Astrodragon wrote: Thulia is definitely not hellspawn, as was shown in the origin story. I'll give you a freebie, she's not class X/GOO either.

    Exactly what she is, I don't want to reveal just yet (I'll just let you worry about it!)


    She's a girl, and girls just wanna have fun!

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    5 years 11 months ago #123 by Astrodragon
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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Erianaiel wrote: So what could she be when she is closely tied to the (elemental?) plane of fire, has horns and wings but does not seem to be associated with demons of humanity's lore. (and in fact, when she was observing justice being meted out (rather than the vengeance she first wanted) her thoughts suggested that while she could visit the infernal part of the divine/infernal spectrum, it was not something she and her grandmother were directly related nor practially involved with.


    There's no reason (aside from story context or WoG) precluding her from being a jinn or some other race native to a plane that's metaphysically tied to fire as an element. This isn't D&D, so jinn (or any other sentient race) don't have to all have the same stats, alignments, goals, etc.

    Astrodragon wrote: Thulia is definitely not hellspawn, as was shown in the origin story. I'll give you a freebie, she's not class X/GOO either.

    Exactly what she is, I don't want to reveal just yet (I'll just let you worry about it!)


    She's a girl, and girls just wanna have fun!


    She's a girl, and girls just wanna have fun with their girlfriend

    There, fify! :D

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    5 years 11 months ago #124 by mhalpern
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  • Astrodragon wrote:

    Erianaiel wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: A few points for Dreamer.

    (1) Yes, that chain is orichalcum. It's horribly expensive stuff, which is why Thulia only has it on loan (among other reasons)

    (


    If she can manipulate orichalcum, that rules out quite a few demonic origins for Thulia e.a.

    So what could she be when she is closely tied to the (elemental?) plane of fire, has horns and wings but does not seem to be associated with demons of humanity's lore. (and in fact, when she was observing justice being meted out (rather than the vengeance she first wanted) her thoughts suggested that while she could visit the infernal part of the divine/infernal spectrum, it was not something she and her grandmother were directly related nor practially involved with.

    So likely nothing mythos related (or the orichalcum would have been a much bigger problem for her), nothing directly demonic as humanity's major religions understand that, and Jinns are kind of unlikely too .


    Thulia is definitely not hellspawn, as was shown in the origin story. I'll give you a freebie, she's not class X/GOO either.

    Exactly what she is, I don't want to reveal just yet (I'll just let you worry about it!)

    The only time we've seen orichalcum, we learned that being killed by an orichalcum weapon would have been deadly to Sarah (a GOO), although it wasn't clear if it would have been permanently fatal or (more likely) destroyed her form on this plane.

    But even if it was as deadly to Thulia, there is a big difference between getting your head lopped off by something and just touching it. After all, there are quite a few materials which are deadly to humans but can be handled safely, or with proper precautions.


    Well I seem to remember she is considered a demon as a denizen of another plane of existence that doesn't have good PR... Wait is Morgana's dragon form based off of Thulia too? She designed her humanoid body, so that would mean that her natural form is... Thulia's a dragon...

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    5 years 11 months ago #125 by Astrodragon
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  • Thulia a dragon? :D
    Well, you could try offering her coffee to see.

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    5 years 11 months ago #126 by Erianaiel
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  • Astrodragon wrote:

    Erianaiel wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: A few points for Dreamer.

    (1) Yes, that chain is orichalcum. It's horribly expensive stuff, which is why Thulia only has it on loan (among other reasons)

    (


    If she can manipulate orichalcum, that rules out quite a few demonic origins for Thulia e.a.

    So what could she be when she is closely tied to the (elemental?) plane of fire, has horns and wings but does not seem to be associated with demons of humanity's lore. (and in fact, when she was observing justice being meted out (rather than the vengeance she first wanted) her thoughts suggested that while she could visit the infernal part of the divine/infernal spectrum, it was not something she and her grandmother were directly related nor practially involved with.

    So likely nothing mythos related (or the orichalcum would have been a much bigger problem for her), nothing directly demonic as humanity's major religions understand that, and Jinns are kind of unlikely too .


    Thulia is definitely not hellspawn, as was shown in the origin story. I'll give you a freebie, she's not class X/GOO either.

    Exactly what she is, I don't want to reveal just yet (I'll just let you worry about it!)


    I am not asking for confirmation or spoilers or anything. But speculating about things is half the fun on the discussion threads here :)


    The only time we've seen orichalcum, we learned that being killed by an orichalcum weapon would have been deadly to Sarah (a GOO), although it wasn't clear if it would have been permanently fatal or (more likely) destroyed her form on this plane.

    But even if it was as deadly to Thulia, there is a big difference between getting your head lopped off by something and just touching it. After all, there are quite a few materials which are deadly to humans but can be handled safely, or with proper precautions.


    Fair enough.
    But we don't make jewelry out those highly poisonous substances either (or at least, not anymore after we understood just how poisonous they were ;) )

    Still, I tried to be subtle when I wrote that the orichalcum necklace ruled out some demonic natures for Thulia (or more accurately, I was covering my shapely behind ;) )

    And the good thing is that I still have no idea what Thulia, and by extension Morgana, is

    Just whittling away some of the less likely possibilities based on the little hints and clues that are strewn through the stories :)
    5 years 11 months ago #127 by Astrodragon
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  • I must be honest, I enjoy littering my stories with small pieces of data that do (if you notice them all) add up into quite substantial clues as to what is going on.
    As to Thulia... I think there are actually enough snippets to work out what she is, but yes, they are scattered, and some might not be what you think there are :dry:

    Things will be revealed clearly in time, as Morgana's infestation was.

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