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Question Keeping Cool

6 years 1 month ago #1 by Dreamer
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  • New Gen2 story out by Wasamon. So read, enjoy, and please comment.

    Thank You for story comments appreciated and help me know me they are being read and liked. :-) Note: My story comments can't nor are trying to replace reading the stories, simply my way of enjoying them and letting the authors know I enjoy them.
    6 years 1 month ago #2 by Malady
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  • 6 years 1 month ago - 6 years 1 month ago #3 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • One question: where were the SL5-or-maybe-6 in all of this? It sounds as if Gear Grinder and Mo Mo Master weren't locals (since Patrick seemed to think they were coming from Illinois), and Spirit of St. Louis sounds like the local equivalent of Lamplighter - i.e., someone who doesn't play well with other superheroes. I would have expected one of Miyet's teammates would at least try to get into the scrum...

    But then, what do we know of that team, anyway? We know that in 2006, when they 'adopted' Miyet, the known members were Firewoman, Diamond, Shimmer, and Mandrake (it wasn't clear who #5 was to me on re-reading "Catgirl Madness"). That's about the extent of what we've seen of them, really. Is that team even still operating in 2016? Is Red Kite a current member, or a solo operator? It isn't clear.

    Just a quick reaction to the start of the story. I'll probably say more when I've read the rest.

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    6 years 1 month ago #4 by Anne
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  • What an awesome tale. It had me alternating laughter and tears. And the end, nice cliff hanger, yet well done to wrap most everything up, yet leave the audience begging for more!
    6 years 1 month ago #5 by Dreamer
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  • SPOILER ALERT
    Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will be details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.

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    6 years 1 month ago - 6 years 1 month ago #6 by Wasamon
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  • Schol-R-LEA wrote: One question: where were the SL5-or-maybe-6 in all of this? It sounds as if Gear Grinder and Mo Mo Master weren't locals (since Patrick seemed to think they were coming from Illinois), and Spirit of St. Louis sounds like the local equivalent of Lamplighter - i.e., someone who doesn't play well with other superheroes. I would have expected one of Miyet's teammates would at least try to get into the scrum...


    In real life? I realized way too late that St. Louis had an established team in canon circa 2006.

    In canon? As sort of mentioned at some point via that book on local heroes, heroes and groups don't last forever, and most manage at best a decade of action before burning out (literally or figuratively), dying, or simply moving on. The Spirit of St. Louis IV restarted the Gateway Guardians after the St. Louis Six officially disbanded. Red Kite was brought in as his second-in-command, and Gear Grinder recruited from the other side of the river. MoMo Master is a native Missourian if you couldn't guess from the name.
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    6 years 1 month ago #7 by null0trooper
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  • Dreamer wrote: Patrick, oh my god, this is Pat's origin story! And he was watching the fireworks from far away


    Yep!


    Dreamer wrote: Speak now your desires. And the way the noise came at him, I would be freaking out at that point. And he still thinks this is just a dream, in a world with mutants and other types of superhumans and sources of powers, even magic, *sigh*


    Because in his world, magic happens for other people.


    Dreamer wrote:

    It's looking good without trying, and being good at stuff without thinking. It's poise and grace, a quick wit and a clever tongue. It's..." he sighed. "It's everything I'm not."

    Desire heard and understood, that isn't always a good thing. The "dream" ending that way, I would wake up screaming.


    Isn't it worse that Patrick desires being heard and understood also falls under the category of "everything I'm not"?

    Or, that after a super-fight's worth of bad luck gets dumped on his head (and down his shirt), it's hard to tell if Pat got a Benevolant, Literal, or Jackass genie.

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    6 years 1 month ago - 6 years 1 month ago #8 by Kettlekorn
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  • Keeping Cool (Part 1) wrote: I was looking for some cheese.

    Is that normal? To go looking for cheese when you can't sleep? I've heard of warm milk, and I've personally gone on the hunt for a slice of bread and substituted a tortilla on occasion, but I've never struggled to sleep and thought, "Hey, I know what I need! Cheese!" (Though it does seem like a very me thing to think, now that I think about it.) Is it a regional thing?

    Whatever the case, it's my new favorite excuse for being out of bounds. "Hey, what are you doing in here?! Only employees are allowed inside the vault!" "Oh, sorry. I was looking for some cheese."

    Keeping Cool (Part 1) wrote: The cards are gettin' uppity again.

    Love this line. Also, Grammy in general, and the way Lara's plan for Pat is just a continuous backfire.

    Keeping Cool (Part 1) wrote: Yeah, the newspaper people all loved that name cuz it was big and impressive, but most folks 'round here called him Maurice. Even inspired a song, second or thirdhand.

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    I am the kernel that pops in the night. I am the pain that keeps your dentist employed.
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    6 years 1 month ago - 6 years 1 month ago #9 by Malady
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  • I guess the necklace is what the New Olympians would call an Altar, a connector to higher realms, but low connection due to not full necklace...

    I thought the Turning Gold, was turning her into the necklace...

    The powers are made to attract attention, be an object of worship, and transmit to the Benefactor?

    That's the price for the power?
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  • Not the worst glammor to be stuck with...

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  • Malady wrote: I guess the necklace is what the New Olympians would call an Altar, a connector to higher realms, but low connection due to not full necklace...


    My impression was the opposite: that the one carbuncle was the only magically-significant stone. Small, easy to lose, hard to show off, but put it in a setting surrounded with rubies and red garnet it becomes a lot more impressive and somewhat more difficult to pocket.

    Malady wrote: I thought the Turning Gold, was turning her into the necklace...


    Nah, just really, really cool. Seraphim set the bar for awesome Communion events pretty high when she was in New York.

    Malady wrote: The powers are made to attract attention, be an object of worship, and transmit to the Benefactor?

    That's the price for the power?


    The offer was "That which you desire."

    "Fame? Fortune? Worship? Power?" were just examples to get the new owner thinking, every one of which just happens to be fertile ground for planting the seeds of their own destruction. Pat asked for everything he isn't, which could be seen as sacrificing everything he is, up-front.

    The carbuncle is firmly attached to his chest, so he's probably going to have to die for anyone else to take possession. If it's "better to burn out than fade away", old age might not be in the cards for Pat.

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    6 years 1 month ago #12 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • I am pretty sure that my wish would involve a paradox, as you usually have to have existed at some point to have a desire...

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  • Lol if the gem is actually a Soul Gem, and cutting it out of his body would've "killed" him, until it got stuck into someone else.

    'Cause the initial activation scene took place inside the gem, with the 5 planes area and stuff?
    6 years 1 month ago #14 by XaltatunOfAcheron
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  • So this is Pat Barnes' origin story? Makes sense on several levels, but how does he hook up with the Barneses? Hm...
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  • XaltatunOfAcheron wrote: So this is Pat Barnes' origin story? Makes sense on several levels, but how does he hook up with the Barneses? Hm...


    IIRC, Pat gets introduced to the same DPA agent we've met in "The Quantum Suicides". It just happens that when Myra, Chessa, and Marcus leave Chicago, Ill. on July 13th their itinerary includes Springfield, St. Louis, and Oklahoma City.

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    6 years 1 month ago #16 by Katssun
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  • Keeping Cool part 1 wrote: He had to ask himself several times this evening if he'd ever really known the girl he'd spent so much time studying with and silently crushing on, and the conclusion he came to was not very heartening or flattering to his intelligence. To her, he'd been the means to an end, either to get decent grades or to provide excuses and backup when there was something she wanted. She was simply being more honest about it now.

    These lines cut deep, and my read was that this was really the central theme of this part The hints show up that Lara was like this before Pat finally realized it halfway through, and they also apply to Pat himself thanks to the gem.

    I've also been there a few times unfortunately. Evaluating who is really a friend, and who is just maintaining a level of acquaintanceship, looking for something else in return or simply to have someone slightly worse off to compare themselves to. And I'm sure that I've been guilty of it too.

    mhalpern wrote: Not the worst glammor to be stuck with...

    That's not what Pat told one of the main cast, though I don't remember whether it was Erica, Cally, or one of the others. Pat doesn't know how much of anything she does is him, and how much is the gem doing all of it for him. Even down to the things he says. Was Pat capable of being funny on his own, or was that the gem making him cool. It's much more of a curse than a blessing. Grammy's divination shows that Pat may grow to overcome that disconnect, and embrace it, control it, or come to terms with being controlled by it, though not to the point that Pat is just a shell for coolness.

    The powers testing crew uses robots and complete isolation to see what Pat's baseline physical abilities are, and they're noticeably less than average.
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  • Great to see this canonized. Oddly I've been thinking about it over the past few weeks.

    Looking and acting "cool" isn't a super power.

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    6 years 1 month ago - 6 years 1 month ago #18 by Wasamon
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  • Valentine wrote: Great to see this canonized. Oddly I've been thinking about it over the past few weeks.

    Looking and acting "cool" isn't a super power.


    It's just a side-effect ;)

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  • I loved the story! Thank you for Pat's depth and a great back story for Grammy.

    This character reminds me of the Gen2 character who can perform as long as there is an audience. I'm blanking on who it is. I remember him/her sparring with Kenshin and being able to fight but not retain anything.

    Is this the same character or just very similar? Sorry, I can't recall which story it's from.

    Thanks!!
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  • It was the very same Pat. Dorms of Our Lives 3.
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  • Part 2 is now up for your viewing pleasure!

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  • The lady of flowers and rebirth? Now THAT is a deceptively powerful entity! Of course the crystal ball was clear, and I am sure she knew why, before it showed her, most forms of precognition are funny like that, they work best near the end.

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  • I and my organization, we have supporters in magical circles across the globe. We hear things, just bits and pieces of information, but when we bring it all together... Grammy, what if I were to tell you that between the years of 1989 and 1992, the Olympian Gods somehow found a way to be reborn into the world, returning for who knows what reason? That at least three of the nine Faerie Queens, including the Queen of the West, have returned, possibly to raise up her Court even as we speak? That the White Buffalo Calf Woman gathers and unites the shamans of all the tribes across the continent? That the Asian pantheons are active for the first time since the war? The great spirits of north and south, east and west? That a cult for Kelith, daughter of Gothmog the Virile, is growing and ... Stop smiling!"


    Oh, and don't even mention the Star-stalker, the Handmaiden of the Tao, and the scariest of them all... Jade.

    Three of the Nine queens... hmmm...

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  • Dreamer wrote:
    「Most of the time, we think of people simply and strictly in terms of 'man' and 'woman,' but sexuality is much more complicated and is made up of many different points. Biological sex is what is most often referred to when talking about someone's gender; it is defined by the organs one is either born with or will develop over time...」

    Nice start to the book, though poor Patrick to be reminded of what he lost. And the next part of the book is good, this Laurelle Genovese knows her stuff. [/quote]

    She'd better. I went straight to the source and asked Souffle Girl if she could provide me anything good, since she used to write stuff like this for an Italian LGBT+ group.
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  • Rose Bunny wrote: Three of the Nine queens... hmmm...


    Aunghadail, Aegloswen, Mabd

    Still waiting on Miranda, Ariel, Umbriel, Titania, Puck, and Sycorax!

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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Rose Bunny wrote: Three of the Nine queens... hmmm...


    Aunghadail, Aegloswen, Mabd

    Still waiting on Miranda, Ariel, Umbriel, Titania, Puck, and Sycorax!

    Sycorax you say? Got to be weary of Christmas trees then..

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  • Well, we've seen a Sycorax, but she wasn't a Fae, it was just a codename as far as anyone knows. Personal enemy of the Witch Queen and all that. Pretty sure she didn't have a son, monstrous or otherwise.

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  • Waidaminit! Puck is one of the queens of the fey?!
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  • Anne wrote: Waidaminit! Puck is one of the queens of the fey?!

    Puck is a trickster, you are surprised that depictions of them might not be as they seem?

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  • Anne wrote: Waidaminit! Puck is one of the queens of the fey?!


    If the tiara fits...


    One wonders about people who can read a story about a human boy who's biologically female, and still be shocked by the idea of a Queen of an entirely different species who may, or may not, be presented as male thousands or millions of years after their demise.

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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Anne wrote: Waidaminit! Puck is one of the queens of the fey?!


    If the tiara fits...


    One wonders about people who can read a story about a human boy who's biologically female, and still be shocked by the idea of a Queen of an entirely different species who may, or may not, be presented as male thousands or millions of years after their demise.


    Last I heard, she was in Canada... Puck

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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Rose Bunny wrote: Three of the Nine queens... hmmm...


    Aunghadail, Aegloswen, Mabd

    Still waiting on Miranda, Ariel, Umbriel, Titania, Puck, and Sycorax!


    At last report, Miranda was reincarnated a very long time ago, and found work in Hollywood under the stage name Agnes Moorehead while she hid waiting for the other 8 to catch up. (There's a reason she was so good in one particular role ...)

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  • One supposes that if Puck wanted to remain ambiguous about her(?) gender then (s)he(?) had all the power of the sidhe to obfuscate the issue when being Robin Goodfellow...
    Other than that? No issue with Puck being whatever Puck decides Puck is. After all one doesn't criticize how the good neighbors organize their lives, lest one find the wild hunt riding through one's house one midnight fell on the dark of the moon!
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  • Anne wrote: One supposes that if Puck wanted to remain ambiguous about her(?) gender then (s)he(?) had all the power of the sidhe to obfuscate the issue when being Robin Goodfellow...
    Other than that? No issue with Puck being whatever Puck decides Puck is. After all one doesn't criticize how the good neighbors organize their lives, lest one find the wild hunt riding through one's house one midnight fell on the dark of the moon!

    I will point out that we don't know which of the fey races Puck belongs to, based on one of the few constants however, we can, with relative certainty go with one of the natural shape shifters, such as Pooka.

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  • Back on topic, I realized that being connected to the Queen of the underworld and goddess of rebirth, is probably the next best thing to being directly tied to the Fates when it comes to fortune telling...

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  • Yeah, I can imagine that Pat is going to be a regular seer when he gets better control of his ability. Then again his whole ability may be the instinctive cool chameleon effect that he feels as a sort of heat from the gem!
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  • Pat sure has one hell of a mixed bag. Despite having enough identity issues to reach to bottom of the Mariana Trench, it's probably fair to say that overall his life has improved somewhat, at least in some ways. Pat being trapped inside his own head would be the absolute worst part, to me. Although, there have been a downright impressive number of heartwarming moments thus far and it's really nice that Pat's found people who accept him and he can be himself around, but the current flavour is definitely bittersweet.

    As for the mention of the three Fae Queens... We, the readers know of three, but are they the same ones? Likely, but not necessarily.

    Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.
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  • Ametros wrote:

    As for the mention of the three Fae Queens... We, the readers know of three, but are they the same ones? Likely, but not necessarily.

    To be fair, the only one he mentioned specifically was the Queen of the West, if I recall the story correctly.
    It is also interesting that he shows up in the last story (Quantum Suicides) then here again like a bad penny that you can't even seem to throw away.
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  • Anne wrote: Yeah, I can imagine that Pat is going to be a regular seer when he gets better control of his ability. Then again his whole ability may be the instinctive cool chameleon effect that he feels as a sort of heat from the gem!

    Except we know it's more because of the psy shields they created, interestingly without hobgoblins, but that could be because of the audience... There's also definitely an esper sense there too.

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  • Anne wrote: Ametros wrote:

    As for the mention of the three Fae Queens... We, the readers know of three, but are they the same ones? Likely, but not necessarily.

    To be fair, the only one he mentioned specifically was the Queen of the West, if I recall the story correctly.
    It is also interesting that he shows up in the last story (Quantum Suicides) then here again like a bad penny that you can't even seem to throw away.


    I can't find Pat in Quantum Suicides, and I wouldn't expect him there.
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  • I'm not speaking of Pat, but of Mal y pense.... He tried to make of with Chessa....
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  • Anne wrote: I'm not speaking of Pat, but of Mal y pense.... He tried to make of with Chessa....


    I did a search on "Mal" and couldn't find any reference in either part. Possibly it was in the fan-fiction version? If not, please point me at the textev.
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  • Anne wrote: I'm not speaking of Pat, but of Mal y pense.... He tried to make of with Chessa....


    You got him confused with Boggart, from the mutant supremacist cult known as the Advent. Malypense is from a completely different sort of cabal.
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  • Ah, I thought that Boggart

    It kind of looked like a leprechaun. It really looked like a leprechaun. It was, in fact, a leprechaun, just like the Lucky Charms mascot. About a foot tall, with bright orange hair and emerald green clothing, it darted around the feet of the assembled commando wannabes so lightly that they didn't seem to notice. It wasn't until they began a parade bit that they discovered their shoelaces were all tied together.

    --- Myra

    It looked like the invasion of the Lilliputians, with an assist from the Lollipop Guild. The paramilitary morons had been all prepared for the ceremonial substitute for phallus-waving when a little green man knocked them down like a bunch of impotent dominos. Then all his buddies came from the woodwork out, piling onto the stricken dickheads and stripping their weapons of ammo. Then, as a final insult, the miniscule marauders formed a big circle around their victims and sang a series of limericks, each one more insulting to the men's collective manhood than the last.

    She couldn't help herself; she had to laugh.

    "Glad you enjoyed the show," said the young man beside her. He'd been there the entire time, though she hadn't noticed till now. His grey hoodie was up, but beneath it was hair the same vibrant tang color as the little people. Unless her eyes were mistaken, his ears were pointed, too.

    "You guys do dinner shows?" she asked.

    "Only when these schmucks open for us," he said with a wink. "My card."

    Unlike most business cards, this one was designed vertically. There was a simple stick figure illustration of a man in a cape saving another man from a falling boulder. The logo at the bottom said 'Evolution Rocks!' On the back, it was signed, 'Boggart.'

    "I don't suppose we can go now?" she asked him.

    "Feel free, feel free," said the man. "It is still a free country for all, no matter what those gene fascists" -- a thumb stabbed towards the camo-flubbed -- "might desire."

    "Thank you." She grabbed Marcus by the hand and marched to the car. only one of the man's little friends stood in her way: a foot-tall lawn ornament made flesh, picking his nose and leering lasciviously. This one got the full brunt of her stare, a penetrating glare honed in countless junior high school showdowns. No student had ever withstood it, and the grungy little garden gnome was no different. "Leave," she said, and leave, he did.

    "Urgh," she groaned as she slumped into the car seat. Her head was pounding to beat the band. "What was up with all that?"

    "Rights of Man protest," Carlos said. "Sort of a political extension and evolution of the old Humanity First movement. A coalition of the crazy, swinging from die-hard conservatives to far-left control freaks who don't like that just anyone could develop superpowers without oversight. They popped up after the current prez got elected and started supporting laws they didn't agree with. Like equal rights for mutants."

    was just a different nom-de-guere used by the mage who killed Grammy.
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  • Or maybe that's just what Wasamon wants us to think. Maybe the idea that not all redheads are the same person is just a lie perpetuated by our shadowy overlord. This is clearly all the design of The Great Gingerbread Man, whose manifested clones have been slowly infiltrating the world's organizations for decades. Soon he'll have the entire world dangling over his nefarious glass of milk. Die your hair orange and learn to hide among his forces while you still can, for the time of the Great Dunking draws near, and only the orange will survive.

    I am the kernel that pops in the night. I am the pain that keeps your dentist employed.
    6 years 1 month ago #47 by Rose Bunny
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  • Kettlekorn wrote: Or maybe that's just what Wasamon wants us to think. Maybe the idea that not all redheads are the same person is just a lie perpetuated by our shadowy overlord. This is clearly all the design of The Great Gingerbread Man, whose manifested clones have been slowly infiltrating the world's organizations for decades. Soon he'll have the entire world dangling over his nefarious glass of milk. Die your hair orange and learn to hide among his forces while you still can, for the time of the Great Dunking draws near, and only the orange will survive.

    you have found out our secret, you must dye!

    High-Priestess of the Order of Spirit-Chan


    6 years 1 month ago #48 by Mister D
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  • Kettlekorn wrote: Or maybe that's just what Wasamon wants us to think. Maybe the idea that not all redheads are the same person is just a lie perpetuated by our shadowy overlord. This is clearly all the design of The Great Gingerbread Man, whose manifested clones have been slowly infiltrating the world's organizations for decades. Soon he'll have the entire world dangling over his nefarious glass of milk. Die your hair orange and learn to hide among his forces while you still can, for the time of the Great Dunking draws near, and only the orange will survive.


    The League of Red-Headed Gentlemen was just the start... :D


    Measure Twice
    6 years 1 month ago #49 by Wasamon
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  • For what it's worth, I always imagined Boggart as having hair as orange as the stripe on the Irish flag, while Bertram "Bantam" DeMille sports a rooster-red hue.
    6 years 1 month ago #50 by marie7342231
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  • Ok now that we know Pat and the Barnses so well, I need to go back and reread Dorms of Our Lives 3. Can't wait!
    6 years 1 month ago #51 by Katssun
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  • Clairvoyance is an often underappreciated, underutilized, or ham-fisted superpower. Other authors might make it overpowered, under powered, used as a deus ex machina or used to simply drive the plot forward when stuck. Other times it is sidelined for simply being too powerful. Or treated no different from a scrying device. Rarely is it handled in such a way that it feels balanced.

    But you really did it justice here Wasamon. An incredible power and an incredible curse, both requiring responsibility and maturity to use without driving oneself mad.
    6 years 1 month ago - 6 years 1 month ago #52 by Wasamon
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  • Yeah, the real losing scenario for Pat isn't death, but Strength in the reverse. He has to learn to keep his cool, pretty much become the person he wished to be in truth, or the coolness paradigm will do it for him without any input, and he just ends up along for the ride.

    So, now that we've spent a good page or so of thread derailed on the subject of a throwaway line concerning fairy queens, and another on the Evil Ginger Conspiracy, any other thoughts on this story? Tarot cards, power sets, secondary characters, anything? Anyone? Bueller?
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    6 years 1 month ago - 6 years 1 month ago #53 by Malady
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  • Well, I suppose the best question would be "Where's Billiken going?"

    IIRC, we haven't heard mention of his statue in Dorms, so it disappeared sometime between July and September?

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    Dina's powerset, well, that's so up in the air, it's not really worth discussing?

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    Radfords... The father... Does his name also start with D?

    And the youngest brother... Might he mutate too, given his siblings?

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    What are the fortunes for the Barnes siblings, and what would happen if Myra tried her hand at it?

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    That Washington inheritor... Who could it be? Anyone we know?

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    And that Star of the South...
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  • Wasamon wrote: Yeah, the real losing scenario for Pat isn't death, but Strength in the reverse. He has to learn to keep his cool, pretty much become the person he wished to be in truth, or the coolness paradigm will do it for him without any input, and he just ends up along for the ride.


    Not exactly the quote I was looking for, but close:

    "Some people grow into their dreams, instead of out of them.”
    ― Lois McMaster Bujold, Komarr

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    6 years 1 month ago - 6 years 1 month ago #55 by Sir Lee
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  • I keep imagining Pat explaining, "No, I have a girlfriend, I'll introduce you in January after she manifests."

    I also keep thinking about other stuff Grammy might have lying around. I mean, she gave the cards and entrusted the book to Pat, but what about that cursed-with-clarity crystal ball, for instance? Lara's mother does not strike me as the sort to care about mystical objects. It might end up sold as bricabrac in a garage sale. Billiken's statue escaped this inglorious fate, but how many other artifacts might end their days as tacky mantle decorations for tasteless noveau riches?

    I hope Lara matures eventually. There were a couple signs that maybe, just maybe, she was starting to consider the possibility that there were better places for her head than stuck into her own ass.

    Don't call me "Shirley." You will surely make me surly.
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  • Sir Lee wrote: It might end up sold as bricabrac in a garage sale. Billiken's statue escaped this inglorious fate, but how many other artifacts might end their days as tacky mantle decorations for tasteless noveau riches?

    I hope Lara matures eventually. There were a couple signs that maybe, just maybe, she was starting to consider the possibility that there were better places for her head than stuck into her own ass.

    Wasn't Grammie kind of saying that all along. Her successor will claim the book.

    "Keep it safe, child. I named you as its guardian, until such time as my successor can claim it. That person is out there, so don't you worry. It's all a matter of time..."

    It's deliberately vague. Does this mean Pat once or even if he manages to make peace with his two selves? Is it Lara once she matures? Grammie said quite a few things about how guilty she felt for what she had been doing to Lara the last few months. Was it Grammie's arrogance and over-protectiveness that Lara needed coddling through her rebellious phase? Children need to make mistakes to learn.

    Maybe Grammie was only doing what she had to until Pat came into Lara's life. Lara's behavior does change because of Pat's influence. Slowly, and just a little bit, but it is progress.

    My guess is that Pat isn't going to be the final owner of the book. It could be Lara. It could be Dina. Pat's keeping it out of other's hands until they're ready.

    As for the rest of the things, it's probably for the best they end up in an estate sale or flea markets. Things like that have ways of their own in making it to their next owner. Not just in WU, but in real life too.
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  • OK, random things to say then...

    1 - working out Tarot card readings was surprisingly fun

    2- Dina was not a part of my original outline. Much like Cousin Penny in Erica's origin, or Macarthur (the idiot), Nefertiti (Copacetic), and Shawn (former ODS dud) in Dorms of Our Lives, I made her up on the fly to get a connection to the idea of a party where Lara would get horribly upset over something minor, and things snowballed.

    3- Pat was originally supposed to be part of the original "Quantum Suicides" story, except about two pages into that (originally titled "The Alternatives"), I looked at what I had, said "Oh God, no," and spent another three months mentally re-jiggering it into the story you all saw. Part of that re-jiggering involved paring down the original five Alternatives into three, but I liked Pat's power concept so much that I found a different way to get him in. The fifth Alternative? She returned to being a mere mention in Erica's first story: Cyclonic, state hero of Oklahoma.

    4- Quantum Suicides was supposed to be my original fanfic at the old Whateley boards, but because of those aforementioned issues, I ended up starting with a different character I'd come up with to help support the plot and fight at the heart of what's going to now be Dorms 5. So, yeah, Erica's moved up a lot in the world since then, and the Barneses are now HER support characters.

    5- the thing with the book will be resolved sometime in 2017, promise. Working title for that project is "Passing Fancy."
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  • There was a movie called Biriken (alternate spelling of Billiken)
    www.imdb.com/title/tt0115686/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl It appears that the Billiken tries to grant wishes, but strange things happen. This seems to fit with the story.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billiken
    Refers to this as the "god of things as they ought to be"
    Became popular in Alaska and Japan, both locations mentioned in Whateley literature.

    There may also be a connection to a video game named Age of Mythology

    Mention of Billiken statue
    www.flickr.com/photos/maaaaaakko/2126612915/
    www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2005/09/21/nat...-tokyo/#.XICAQi2ZN24

    null0trooper wrote:

    Malady wrote: I guess the necklace is what the New Olympians would call an Altar, a connector to higher realms, but low connection due to not full necklace...


    My impression was the opposite: that the one carbuncle was the only magically-significant stone. Small, easy to lose, hard to show off, but put it in a setting surrounded with rubies and red garnet it becomes a lot more impressive and somewhat more difficult to pocket.

    Malady wrote: I thought the Turning Gold, was turning her into the necklace...


    Nah, just really, really cool. Seraphim set the bar for awesome Communion events pretty high when she was in New York.

    Malady wrote: The powers are made to attract attention, be an object of worship, and transmit to the Benefactor?

    That's the price for the power?


    The offer was "That which you desire."

    "Fame? Fortune? Worship? Power?" were just examples to get the new owner thinking, every one of which just happens to be fertile ground for planting the seeds of their own destruction. Pat asked for everything he isn't, which could be seen as sacrificing everything he is, up-front.

    The carbuncle is firmly attached to his chest, so he's probably going to have to die for anyone else to take possession. If it's "better to burn out than fade away", old age might not be in the cards for Pat.

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  • "Biriken" isn't so much an alternate spelling as it is someone trying to transcribe it out of Japanese without realizing that it has an English spelling.
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  • I just reread the story of “I am not in Kansas anymore “ by Elrow and other authors. Suddenly a lot of things made sense. Pat and Chessa were unwitting twins for example. There is quite a lot of foreshadowing in Whateley. Keep it up
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  • At least in this case, it helped a lot that I wrote QS and KC a long time before I did up that scene segment for Elrod.
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  • Is Malypense a multi-user alias, or just Bantam's?

    If it's multi user, we dunno who the other users are, right?

    As said in Part 2:

    Bertram DeMille, mutant magus and founding member of a society best known locally by the mask of the villain Malypense

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  • That'd be correct: Malypense is a general-purpose villain persona used for the society's dirty work.
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