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Question Charge of the Light Vignettes

6 years 1 week ago #1 by Dreamer
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  • New stories from Elrod are out, yay! So please read, enjoy, and comment.

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    6 years 1 week ago #2 by Malady
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  • Woah, I was thinking "Is this an April Fools story" the whole way through.

    This was great, milking the reveal and the timing for all it was worth!

    And that reveal was shocking!
    6 years 1 week ago #3 by mhalpern
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  • On the custom loading, I hope that Kayda uses a less valuable weapon to test her custom ammunition on, particularly the more "exciting" spells...

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    6 years 1 week ago #4 by Dreamer
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  • SPOILER ALERT
    Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will be details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.

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    6 years 1 week ago - 6 years 1 week ago #5 by elrodw
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  • As a side note, I have a few of the items listed in the story (and in the summer-time story).

    My personal impressions?
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    Do I think it's reasonable for 15-year-old girls to use them? Yes, with proper instruction, especially for exemplars. And yes, I had to work to string along the reveal until I did - and I found a giveaway and had to make a change at 6:55 pm (Central time) last evening to remove it (it was in a paragraph with Booker.).

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    6 years 1 week ago - 6 years 1 week ago #6 by Katssun
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  • I liked the connection to Best Days of Our Lives. Addy taking an interest in shooting is no surprise to anyone who saw her at Alicia's. I had to look up the MAS-36, but since it takes French ammo and is French made, Addy still gets to keep up her national pride streak.

    As for the title...should we expect an intra-GhostWalkers sim skirmish with a miscommunication resulting in Charge dashing directly at RPG?

    edit: Oops. It will probably be Harrier instead.

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    6 years 1 week ago #7 by elrodw
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  • Katssun wrote: As for the title...should we expect an intra-GhostWalkers sim skirmish with a miscommunication resulting in Charge dashing directly at RPG?

    edit: Oops. It will probably be Harrier instead.

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    a) there are at least 2 more "Charge of the Light Vignettes" planned

    2) you've never shot a Mosin with mil-surp ammo. I was at the range with a friend who's a shooting enthusiast; I loaded 5-rounds from a stripper-clip for him to shoot. After 2 shots, he put the rifle down and said "that's enough of that".

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  • I have both a 12 gauge side by side shotgun and a Mosin with some Czech and Russian surplus ammo. Slugs and high-velocity turkey shot out of the former are the ones I really don't enjoy. Mosins are almost 9 lbs, while the shotgun is about 6.5 lbs. It makes a big difference, even when the mosin is firing a much faster projectile.

    After firing things like that in real life, I have particular skepticism for the depiction of firearms in movies. I don't know what kind of a blank loads they play with these days (when it isn't outright CG), but it pulls me out of the movie a little bit. Bad grips, bad stance, not fully shouldering big firearms, firing from the hip...

    At least the WU has enhanced physical strength fully established within the canon.

    If the MAS-36 is a bolt action with stripper clips, how embarrassed will the Grunts be with Addy and Alicia both achieving greater rates of fire or with better accuracy? I'm kind of guessing that Alicia already has plenty of practice with her Remington. I'm looking forward to that scene.
    6 years 1 week ago #9 by Anne
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  • I can't wait to see what the grunts think when the girls get out there and are out shooting them for accuracy. They all expect Dead Eye to make all of his shots... But Kayda? Addy? Alicia? Okay if they know where Kayda and Alicia are from then they would know that there is a better than average chance that they are more than a bit familiar with rifles!
    6 years 6 days ago #10 by mhalpern
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  • Anne wrote: I can't wait to see what the grunts think when the girls get out there and are out shooting them for accuracy. They all expect Dead Eye to make all of his shots... But Kayda? Addy? Alicia? Okay if they know where Kayda and Alicia are from then they would know that there is a better than average chance that they are more than a bit familiar with rifles!

    Well if I am not mistaken, with rifles of that era, while intended to be loaded via stripper clips, they CAN be magazine loaded, you just didn't because magazines are heavy, expensive and the machining at the time wasn't super consistent, that said, especially with custom rounds on the table, RoF isn't as important as accuracy and being able to acquire a new target quickly.

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    6 years 6 days ago #11 by elrodw
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  • mhalpern wrote:

    Anne wrote: I can't wait to see what the grunts think when the girls get out there and are out shooting them for accuracy. They all expect Dead Eye to make all of his shots... But Kayda? Addy? Alicia? Okay if they know where Kayda and Alicia are from then they would know that there is a better than average chance that they are more than a bit familiar with rifles!

    Well if I am not mistaken, with rifles of that era, while intended to be loaded via stripper clips, they CAN be magazine loaded, you just didn't because magazines are heavy, expensive and the machining at the time wasn't super consistent, that said, especially with custom rounds on the table, RoF isn't as important as accuracy and being able to acquire a new target quickly.


    None of the rifles I've mentioned in stories (Mosin 91/30, 1903A3, MAS-36, Remington 700) have a detachable magazine. The SMLE Mk 4 and the Swiss K-31 do, but they aren't used the way one does in any modern rifle (AR, AK, FAL, etc, ad nauseum). You load them from a stripper clip or by individual rounds.

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    6 years 6 days ago #12 by mhalpern
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  • elrodw wrote:

    mhalpern wrote:

    Anne wrote: I can't wait to see what the grunts think when the girls get out there and are out shooting them for accuracy. They all expect Dead Eye to make all of his shots... But Kayda? Addy? Alicia? Okay if they know where Kayda and Alicia are from then they would know that there is a better than average chance that they are more than a bit familiar with rifles!

    Well if I am not mistaken, with rifles of that era, while intended to be loaded via stripper clips, they CAN be magazine loaded, you just didn't because magazines are heavy, expensive and the machining at the time wasn't super consistent, that said, especially with custom rounds on the table, RoF isn't as important as accuracy and being able to acquire a new target quickly.


    None of the rifles I've mentioned in stories (Mosin 91/30, 1903A3, MAS-36, Remington 700) have a detachable magazine. The SMLE Mk 4 and the Swiss K-31 do, but they aren't used the way one does in any modern rifle (AR, AK, FAL, etc, ad nauseum). You load them from a stripper clip or by individual rounds.


    Which was the British rifle that they turned the best samples of into snipers?

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    6 years 6 days ago #13 by elrodw
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  • mhalpern wrote:

    elrodw wrote: None of the rifles I've mentioned in stories (Mosin 91/30, 1903A3, MAS-36, Remington 700) have a detachable magazine. The SMLE Mk 4 and the Swiss K-31 do, but they aren't used the way one does in any modern rifle (AR, AK, FAL, etc, ad nauseum). You load them from a stripper clip or by individual rounds.


    Which was the British rifle that they turned the best samples of into snipers?


    British - P1914 leftovers from the Great War, and they added scopes to the Enfield (SMLE) Mk 4.
    Germany used the K98 with a scope mostly.
    Russia put scopes on the Mosin 91/30 (I have one with a scope. It's an uncomfortably high mount for a scope).
    US - 1903A3 as a basis rifle with added scope
    Swiss - Schmidt-Rubin K-31 with a scope (somewhat side-mounted to clear the ejection port - parallax can be an issue - I have one)
    Japanese - scopes on the Type 38 and the Type 99 Arisaka rifles

    It has to be noted that all of these scopes were relatively low-powered by today's standards - not over about 4x, so the range is nowhere near what current snipers shoot with modern equipment.

    As to the girls and the Grunts, we might find one or two freshmen and an upperclassman ROTC student who look down their noses at the girls, especially Addy, which causes some issues....

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    6 years 6 days ago - 6 years 6 days ago #14 by Sir Lee
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  • Anne wrote: I can't wait to see what the grunts think when the girls get out there and are out shooting them for accuracy. They all expect Dead Eye to make all of his shots... But Kayda? Addy? Alicia? Okay if they know where Kayda and Alicia are from then they would know that there is a better than average chance that they are more than a bit familiar with rifles!

    Deadeye was Class of 2007, as was Breaker. Both of them graduated. Since Bomber is a psychopath, I expect Mule to be the Grunts team leader now. Or maybe Slapdash, but he tends to get distracted over technical stuff.

    Now, the interesting part is that the Grunts, as most of the clubs, should be in "rush" mode, trying to fill their ranks with fresh blood. The three girls are Sophomores or Juniors and showed no previous interest in the Grunts, so they are poor recruiting prospects. But I still wouldn't be surprised if they try. Bunker, in particular, might welcome the idea of more girls in the Grunts, and she's not known for her tact, so she might become rather... annoying with her pitch.

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    6 years 5 days ago - 6 years 5 days ago #15 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • Was it ever determined if Whisper is actually in the Grunts now or not, or possibly was meant to join them in Fall 2007? I know that Sleethr hasn't been around for some time, but I would expect that some others in the CC (TINCC) would know if that was part of the intended future storyline.

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    6 years 5 days ago #16 by Anne
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  • Whisper was doing sims with the Grunts. At least that is the way I read the story. And she was on an ROTC scholarship IIRC.
    6 years 5 days ago #17 by Hebblejebble
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  • Whisper's cannon appearance ends with her assigned to Whitman and wanting to "do the JROTC thing".
    The story of her sim with the Grunts only appears in the fan-fiction forums, so her membership in the Grunts might be a reasonable assumption but I'm pretty sure it's never explicitly confirmed (in cannon).
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  • Hebblejebble wrote: Whisper's cannon appearance ends with her assigned to Whitman and wanting to "do the JROTC thing".
    The story of her sim with the Grunts only appears in the fan-fiction forums, so her membership in the Grunts might be a reasonable assumption but I'm pretty sure it's never explicitly confirmed (in cannon).


    I was fairly sure that "There's No Place Like Poe" was intended to be canon.

    Kayda 10: There's No Place Like Poe wrote: As I suspected, the infiltrator was Bunker, which meant we'd been against the Grunts. Besides Mule, Slapdash, Bunker, Bomber, and Lancer, there were two more on the team - both freshmen, and one of them was glaring angrily at Charge, while the other Grunts were shooting him the evil eye. The other one was Whisper, a Sidhe girl who was a mage and a sophomore, but I wasn't familiar with her. If she hung out with Fey, it wasn't while I was around.

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    Code: DARPA-MIN-0101


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  • My bad.

    I knew of the "Flowers of the Sun" reference, but considered it irrelevant to discussions of Grunts membership. The "There's No Place Like Poe" reference I totally missed, I gotta re-read that.

    Good to know. I was curious to see how the Grunts would integrate magic into there tactics and it seems far more likely I might be able to see that now.
    6 years 4 days ago - 6 years 4 days ago #20 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • EDIT: never mind, I was thinking of a different story. The reference in FitS was to her role in creating one of the first certified AIs.

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