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Question Imp 8: Imp-rints on an Aching Heart

5 years 9 months ago #1 by Dreamer
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  • A new Imp tale starts from Morpheus. So read, enjoy, and please comment.

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    5 years 9 months ago #2 by XaltatunOfAcheron
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  • Excellent. It's got what I expect from Morpheus. It also ties up a few loose ends, including the one with Killzone. And shows that Exquisite is on the faculty's radar.

    Now, what is Doc M's object? Lost power object?
    5 years 9 months ago #3 by mhalpern
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  • I have to wonder what Aegis will think....

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    5 years 9 months ago #4 by Dreamer
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  • There were a lot of good things in this story (of course), but what I absolutely loved was Imp's exercise routine at the beginning. I am going to adopt a modification of that routine myself!
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  • Woot Called it! The power sets were too similar. :)

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    5 years 9 months ago #7 by null0trooper
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  • Dreamer wrote:

    My whole body was shaking and I could feel my heart pounding louder and louder with every step. I couldn’t breathe. I couldn’t think. I was too shocked to even utter a single word, much less some snarky comment.

    Impossible. This was impossible. It couldn’t be… Aegis couldn’t be… But in spite of that, it was. He was… Tears welled up in my eyes.

    In a shaky voice, I finally whispered, “He has his father’s eyes…”


    You have me tearing up her. Aegis is her son. She was lied to all those years ago, told she had a miscarriage and her son stolen from her! All because of how she looked and what she is, that is evil. Please, please let someone help Imp and Aegis reunite.


    He could also be her nephew. Her brother Danny has a daughter with Down Syndrome; if his wife became pregnant again they could have given their child up for adoption because they couldn't see how they could raise two children. Thus, he could have Danny Boy's eyes.

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    5 years 9 months ago #8 by OtherEric
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  • I've been waiting a long time for Morpheus to finally reveal this particular detail. I don't want to spoil anything for the rest of the story, but I think re-reading the earlier Imp stories with the new information in mind could be quite interesting for some people.

    And if not, they're fun to re-read anyway.
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  • Wow! What a reveal at the end! It all makes sense and I really enjoyed the ride. Can’t Wait for more as usual.

    Cheers
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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Dreamer wrote:

    My whole body was shaking and I could feel my heart pounding louder and louder with every step. I couldn’t breathe. I couldn’t think. I was too shocked to even utter a single word, much less some snarky comment.

    Impossible. This was impossible. It couldn’t be… Aegis couldn’t be… But in spite of that, it was. He was… Tears welled up in my eyes.

    In a shaky voice, I finally whispered, “He has his father’s eyes…”


    You have me tearing up her. Aegis is her son. She was lied to all those years ago, told she had a miscarriage and her son stolen from her! All because of how she looked and what she is, that is evil. Please, please let someone help Imp and Aegis reunite.


    He could also be her nephew. Her brother Danny has a daughter with Down Syndrome; if his wife became pregnant again they could have given their child up for adoption because they couldn't see how they could raise two children. Thus, he could have Danny Boy's eyes.


    Or she told that story to protect him, and that was the favor she owed Doc M

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    5 years 9 months ago #11 by Hardric
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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Dreamer wrote:

    My whole body was shaking and I could feel my heart pounding louder and louder with every step. I couldn’t breathe. I couldn’t think. I was too shocked to even utter a single word, much less some snarky comment.

    Impossible. This was impossible. It couldn’t be… Aegis couldn’t be… But in spite of that, it was. He was… Tears welled up in my eyes.

    In a shaky voice, I finally whispered, “He has his father’s eyes…”


    You have me tearing up her. Aegis is her son. She was lied to all those years ago, told she had a miscarriage and her son stolen from her! All because of how she looked and what she is, that is evil. Please, please let someone help Imp and Aegis reunite.


    He could also be her nephew. Her brother Danny has a daughter with Down Syndrome; if his wife became pregnant again they could have given their child up for adoption because they couldn't see how they could raise two children. Thus, he could have Danny Boy's eyes.


    I am with you on that point, null0trooper. Because Imp miscarried after a savage beat up from Barney. How is the kid surviving that? Also, I guess it happened while the kid wasn't developped enough to have been viable, because if not, even dead drunk Barney would have noticed something. And used that to hurt Imp more.
    5 years 9 months ago #12 by Malady
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  • Imp's still holding onto the necklace? How long until it drops out of her hand and hits him in the face, or something?
    5 years 9 months ago #13 by Greatdingo
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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Dreamer wrote:

    My whole body was shaking and I could feel my heart pounding louder and louder with every step. I couldn’t breathe. I couldn’t think. I was too shocked to even utter a single word, much less some snarky comment.

    Impossible. This was impossible. It couldn’t be… Aegis couldn’t be… But in spite of that, it was. He was… Tears welled up in my eyes.

    In a shaky voice, I finally whispered, “He has his father’s eyes…”


    You have me tearing up her. Aegis is her son. She was lied to all those years ago, told she had a miscarriage and her son stolen from her! All because of how she looked and what she is, that is evil. Please, please let someone help Imp and Aegis reunite.


    He could also be her nephew. Her brother Danny has a daughter with Down Syndrome; if his wife became pregnant again they could have given their child up for adoption because they couldn't see how they could raise two children. Thus, he could have Danny Boy's eyes.


    He could be Danny's son. But that raises the question then, was she crying because she, beyond hope, was hoping that Aegis actually was her child, somehow, and was disappointed he wasn't? Or was it because, somehow, he turned out to be hers?

    What do we really know about that story other than she was attacked by Barney and, presumably, had a miscarriage? That's "just" how Imp remembers it. Possibly that was a serious trauma and she might have blocked some things out, or something.
    5 years 9 months ago #14 by marie7342231
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  • Greatdingo wrote:

    null0trooper wrote:

    Dreamer wrote:

    My whole body was shaking and I could feel my heart pounding louder and louder with every step. I couldn’t breathe. I couldn’t think. I was too shocked to even utter a single word, much less some snarky comment.

    Impossible. This was impossible. It couldn’t be… Aegis couldn’t be… But in spite of that, it was. He was… Tears welled up in my eyes.

    In a shaky voice, I finally whispered, “He has his father’s eyes…”


    You have me tearing up her. Aegis is her son. She was lied to all those years ago, told she had a miscarriage and her son stolen from her! All because of how she looked and what she is, that is evil. Please, please let someone help Imp and Aegis reunite.


    He could also be her nephew. Her brother Danny has a daughter with Down Syndrome; if his wife became pregnant again they could have given their child up for adoption because they couldn't see how they could raise two children. Thus, he could have Danny Boy's eyes.


    He could be Danny's son. But that raises the question then, was she crying because she, beyond hope, was hoping that Aegis actually was her child, somehow, and was disappointed he wasn't? Or was it because, somehow, he turned out to be hers?

    What do we really know about that story other than she was attacked by Barney and, presumably, had a miscarriage? That's "just" how Imp remembers it. Possibly that was a serious trauma and she might have blocked some things out, or something.


    Exactly. The great ambiguity of this cliffhanger will lead us to speculate but the crumbs from Morpheus are leading to a reuniting of mother and child.
    5 years 9 months ago #15 by mhalpern
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  • Hardric wrote:

    null0trooper wrote:

    Dreamer wrote:

    My whole body was shaking and I could feel my heart pounding louder and louder with every step. I couldn’t breathe. I couldn’t think. I was too shocked to even utter a single word, much less some snarky comment.

    Impossible. This was impossible. It couldn’t be… Aegis couldn’t be… But in spite of that, it was. He was… Tears welled up in my eyes.

    In a shaky voice, I finally whispered, “He has his father’s eyes…”


    You have me tearing up her. Aegis is her son. She was lied to all those years ago, told she had a miscarriage and her son stolen from her! All because of how she looked and what she is, that is evil. Please, please let someone help Imp and Aegis reunite.


    He could also be her nephew. Her brother Danny has a daughter with Down Syndrome; if his wife became pregnant again they could have given their child up for adoption because they couldn't see how they could raise two children. Thus, he could have Danny Boy's eyes.


    I am with you on that point, null0trooper. Because Imp miscarried after a savage beat up from Barney. How is the kid surviving that? Also, I guess it happened while the kid wasn't developped enough to have been viable, because if not, even dead drunk Barney would have noticed something. And used that to hurt Imp more.


    Or he thought it was just a prop, as to how the kid could have survived, she probably focused her pk around that area.

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    5 years 9 months ago #16 by Sir Lee
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  • I'm guessing that the "big favor" she owes Doc might be related to Barney attacking her while pregnant.
    Some points:
    - Not all pregnancies are equally noticeable. How many stories you have heard of high-school bathroom deliveries where nobody, not even the mother, noticed the pregnancy? Imp is an exemplar, her pregnancy probably did not slow her much, nor did it make her look particularly fat. And Barney, well, he's not the most perceptive of guys.
    - How badly was she beaten? Maybe she was out of it for a considerable time. If Doc was treating her, and performed an emergency caesarian in an attempt to save the baby because he thought she wouldn't survive... well, there were no next of kin, and he had his hands full with Imp, so he might have "abandoned" the child in an hospital with good premature neonatal care. When she surprisingly beat the odds and survived, he found it easier (and less dangerous to himself) to tell her she had lost the baby than to tell the truth.

    As for the alternate hypothesis of Aegis being her nephew... no, it doesn't explain the tears nearly as well, but it's still a possibility. And not just by the "hands full with the Down-syndrome daughter" scenario. More simply, Danny might have had an affair at some point. He might not even know his one-night-stand got pregnant.

    The possibility that I'm inclined to dismiss is Aegis being Imp's half-brother from some indiscretion on the part of her father. I don't think the numbers add up -- Gregory Kade is said to have died "in the late Eighties". Even if he died in late 1989 right after getting his mistress pregnant, Aegis would still have to be at least 17. But he is a freshman, supposedly around 14.

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  • Domo talk from 2 years ago, seemingly speaking as a canon author? Morpheus never contradicted, so it seems to be canon, at least as of that time??

    whateleyacademy.net/index.php/forum/spec...cher-s-tail?start=80

    Domoviye wrote: To everyone wondering if Imp's fetus could have survived somehow and about doctors, No.
    With Imps regeneration and the assumed stage of her pregnancy, she wouldn't have needed any medicine to help remove the fetus. She'd just have a few days of heavy bleeding and one or two with lots of soft jelly like stuff coming out. Medicine could cut it down to a few hours, but that would require Imp wanting to go to the doctor and asking for help. I don't really see her doing that.
    So there's no chance that Imp has a long lost child running around.

    And now Imp is clearly a recovered Woobie. While she isn't a woobie at present, I'm glad she has Melissa giving her plenty of hugs, she needs some.

    And this explains some of the things Imp has hinted at, suggested and stated about relationships. The way she commented about not worth the pain, how she actively avoided them, not really wanting even a one night stand so she hadn't had sex in 8 years, it wasn't just not liking the available dating material, which always sounded a bit half hearted, but the fear of getting pregnant again. Since she believes that even if Barney hadn't caught her, she'd have eventually lost the child somehow, everytime she got into a relationship, she'd be worried about getting pregnant again and having to go through the heartbreak all over.
    Well done.

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  • One initial reaction to this story is 'Well played Morpheus'.

    I like to think that Imp told (or will tell) Carlson that the favor was being cashed in, just in case things go haywire on the mission. Obviously, Whateley won't interfere in the operation, but they would want to have contingencies in place.

    With regards to how Aegis and the Imp are related, I think the final line is the most telling. It was already established that Aegis and the Imp are related. This line indicates that the Imp knows who Aegis' father is. The only two (likely) possibilities are that his father is her brother, or that she knew who the father of her child was and that Aegis is a future member of the Bad Seeds (if the news gets out).

    In Imp 5p3, there's a line about Williams being Imp's ex-archnemisis. What if he was also her ex-boyfriend, despite her denial? He is conveniently absent from campus at the time the necklace was activated, so the pendant wouldn't have the possibility of flipping between targets. This possibility would also put a dark(er) spin on his attack on her, changing it from a 'simple' act of vigilantism to a case of domestic violence. What if she had been planning to meet up with him at the museum, not knowing he was T-Rex?

    In response to Sir Lee's question, the Imp has stated she was beaten half to death and nearly drowned. Depending on how long she was under, she may have had to recover from Total Cellular Starvation from her regeneration working overtime.

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  • From Imp 4, part 2:

    Barney moved closer to me and continued his rant. “I was arrested for indecent exposure. I lost my civilian job and my fiancé. You turned me into a laughingstock…”
    “To be honest,” I responded a shrug and a cheerful smile, “You did most of the work.”


    I'm not so certain that they were lovers, not that an engagement prevents some folks from having a sidepiece.

    The timing of Barney crossing the line does fit Chris' age, but I'll wait to see if things are really that simple.

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    5 years 9 months ago #20 by Kettlekorn
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  • Calling it now. Danny Boy had an affair with Suzie Q, who chose to keep the pregnancy (or at least his role in it) a secret to avoid breaking an already stressed-to-the-max family. Then she either died, or else put the baby up for adoption to give him a chance at a stable childhood instead of making the poor thing grow up in a single-mother household where super-mom is regularly putting her life on the line fighting villains as the Asterisk.

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  • Kettlekorn wrote: Calling it now. Danny Boy had an affair with Suzie Q, who chose to keep the pregnancy (or at least his role in it) a secret to avoid breaking an already stressed-to-the-max family. Then she either died, or else put the baby up for adoption to give him a chance at a stable childhood instead of making the poor thing grow up in a single-mother household where super-mom is regularly putting her life on the line fighting villains as the Asterisk.


    That'd be great! Or at least convoluted in a funny way? :lol:

    Btw, just so we all know. Asterisk is Broadsword's brother, Mark Kelly.

    ----

    So, if the Doc relates to all this, why is his favor being called at such a relevant time??
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  • Oh yeah, Broadsword. I knew there was a reason I felt off about my old Asterisk theory. Thanks.

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  • Somehow I suspect that Imp wouldn't be the first member of the faculty and staff that would have had similar outstanding debts to care of, and I would expect that is part of the reason for having her do a couple rescue missions..

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  • I wonder how Imp's going to break the news to Aegis...

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  • mhalpern wrote: I have to wonder what Aegis will think....

    I wonder when Imp will tell him... And what she will tell him, and more to the point what she is going to say to Melissa and Ryan!?!?!?
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    mhalpern wrote: I have to wonder what Aegis will think....

    I wonder when Imp will tell him... And what she will tell him, and more to the point what she is going to say to Melissa and Ryan!?!?!?


    She is going to make sure he watches Empire Strikes Back

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  • Part 2 is now available for your reading pleasure!
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  • AHHHHH!

    *speechless*

    That twist! So twisty! But when it's all explained, it makes sense!

    ...

    Aegis wants to know! Depending on how much he wants to know, he might get even more desperate, since this plan failed... Could Voodude make a tracker for the tracker?

    Go to Jadis, as a Fixer and a Mage, for help??

    ...

    Venture hiring a mage to track Pitchy?? Getting in touch with the IRS??

    New Doctor Miracle? But, even if you bond to the staff, you don't have to go heroing, right?
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    Awesome story. :D


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    5 years 9 months ago #30 by XaltatunOfAcheron
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  • Great story. I had a notion that "Doc M" had something to do with saving Imp, but that still surprised me.
    5 years 9 months ago - 5 years 9 months ago #31 by JohnBobMead
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  • Ha!

    Take THAT, you doubters!
    It was never said how far along she was in her pregnancy.
    Those who presumed she wasn't showing 'cause no way would Barney attack a pregnant woman... get real. The man is an ass. He probably thought he was preventing the next generation of Eville from being born if he thought about it at all.

    Eventually... Chris is going to find out some of his background; whether he finds out that Barney attempted to kill his mother while he was near term... that I'm not gonna touch.
    But he will eventually learn who his mother is.
    There is just so much fun that could happen down that path that it's got to happen.
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  • JohnBobMead wrote: Ha!

    Take THAT, you doubters!
    It was never said how far along she was in her pregnancy.
    Those who presumed she wasn't showing 'cause no way would Barney attack a pregnant woman... get real. The man is an ass. He probably thought he was preventing the next generation of Eville from being born if he thought about it at all.

    Eventually... Chris is going to find out some of his background; whether he finds out that Barney attempted to kill his mother while he was near term... that I'm not gonna touch.
    But he will eventually learn who his mother is.
    There is just so much fun that could happen down that path that it's got to happen.


    Story quote for Near Term, please?

    I thought Chris was too young to be viable, but Miracle happened, making Miracles, to Miracle him to viable. ... Miracle!
    5 years 9 months ago - 5 years 9 months ago #33 by Dreamer
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  • SPOILER ALERT
    Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will be details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.

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  • Malady wrote:

    JohnBobMead wrote: Ha!

    Take THAT, you doubters!
    It was never said how far along she was in her pregnancy.
    Those who presumed she wasn't showing 'cause no way would Barney attack a pregnant woman... get real. The man is an ass. He probably thought he was preventing the next generation of Eville from being born if he thought about it at all.

    Eventually... Chris is going to find out some of his background; whether he finds out that Barney attempted to kill his mother while he was near term... that I'm not gonna touch.
    But he will eventually learn who his mother is.
    There is just so much fun that could happen down that path that it's got to happen.


    Story quote for Near Term, please?

    I thought Chris was too young to be viable, but Miracle happened, making Miracles, to Miracle him to viable. ... Miracle!

    From my reading, it sounds like Doctor Miracle saved Imp's life and that of her unborn child, but in such a way that Imp was able to carry Chris to full term before giving birth to him. At least from what Imp said.

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  • Still reading,..but we HAVE to get Razorback in the Gallery with an Afro, canvas and easel!!!

    Edit: Finished, a lot less nefarious than I was thinking (Adoption) I imagine Mrs. Carson will be saddened to hear about Dr. Miracle's impending demise.

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    5 years 9 months ago #36 by Court
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  • I think Imp is making a mistake not telling Chris immediately. No matter when she tells him, there will be pain and problems, but the later the reveal, the worse the pain and problems will be.
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  • Court wrote: I think Imp is making a mistake not telling Chris immediately. No matter when she tells him, there will be pain and problems, but the later the reveal, the worse the pain and problems will be.


    Maybe or maybe telling him now would lead him to second guess his chosen path and derail his stubbornness

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  • Of course next time Susan is at Whateley I have to imagine her (most likely inadvertently) initiating a game of "making the (friend's) boss feel old" Carson is a higher level Exemplar, and that's the kind of thing that the brain doesn't chunk up with similar events as quickly so recall should be easier even without Exemplar memory..

    Pitchy got me thinking, in Whateley collapsible melee weapons are actually a good idea provided they have sufficient strength and the wielder has abilities that can complement or enhance the weapon, for Imp due to the range of her PK it was mostly useful for theatrics, and some increased reach, but I wonder how far Aegis can extend his PK, his abilities seem similar to hers, but she can do a few things that he can't, such as the chameleon field, and in that regard, he can't hide his PK, but I have to wonder if there are things he can do that she can't.

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  • Court wrote: I think Imp is making a mistake not telling Chris immediately. No matter when she tells him, there will be pain and problems, but the later the reveal, the worse the pain and problems will be.


    I disagree. He is still somewhat immature, and this much moral and emotional complexity would be a bit much for him. Not to mention his likely reactions to the fact that a current Whateley teacher (and a former member of the class of people he intended to become - heros) had tried to kill his genetic mother and him while he was in utero. He would be all too likely to throw his life away seeking revenge on Barney.

    As it stands now, he has a loving (adoptive) family, a mentor, a supportive environment in which to learn and grow, and a nagging personal mystery. And time to make real decisions regarding his life path. Given time and perspective, he should become much better equipped to handle the facts.
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  • A few points:
    It's still unclear how far along the pregnancy Imp was when Barney attacked her. I would say farther than first trimester -- far enough along that she had already gone on "maternity leave" from her regular activities. She probably didn't have yet her magical disguising bauble, because Barney was able to find her as a "civilian."

    How far along? Well I don't think she was at the "swallowed a watermelon" stage. Probably showing a bit, but Barney is enough of an unperceptive asshole that if it wasn't ridiculously obvious, he ignored it. Might even have mocked her for "getting out of shape."

    Not all pregnancies are equally obvious. Some mothers show more than others. Imp is not described as petite, and she's an Exemplar, so she might show less than average (OTOH, she's hardly overweight, which helps conceal the pregnancy bulge).

    Should Imp tell Carson? Sure, both regarding Aegis (due to the ethical implications) and about Dr. Miracle. *If* she chooses to tell the whole story, including her "recovery mission," she might want to warn Carson about Venture's unsavory hoarding. I mean, collecting Carson's clothes is a bit sleazy, but finding the power source of a fellow hero and refusing to return it is downright assholish. Can you imagine, say, Green Arrow finding Dr. Fate's helmet and refusing to return it to Kent Nelson because it looks good on his wall?

    (By the way, there were several half-homages to the Batcave in that vault. The giant dice/giant dollar bill reminded me of the giant penny in the Batcave, and the wooly mamooth referenced the T-Rex... also the costume displays, and even Venture's hyperfocused attitude was reminiscent of the Batman)

    Now, telling Aegis? Way more complicated. First, there's the whole thing with appearing to be "trying to replace the only mother he knows." The boy HAS a mother.
    Then there's the whole stressing his worldview by turning him into the son of a villainess, not to mention being almost-murdered by an alleged hero. He has to grow up a bit more and realize that things aren't that black and white before he can assimilate it. He's beginning to realize it; he used to assume "monsters" were automatically evil, but now he not only has a few as teammates, but he is actually attracted to Darqueheart (who, one might note, resembles Imp a bit -- maybe an Oedipal thing down to his genes?)

    Thing is, Imp might not be allowed to wait until he matures a bit more. He is already sniffing around campus for blood relatives. He knows he has at least one, and Imp's own behavior when she was following the amulet (holding his face and saying he has his father's eyes) might have given him a big clue.

    (And, by the way, WHO is Aegis' father? Imp obviously knows.)

    Too bad Parents' Day has already gone by; it would have been a good pretext to acknowledge that Suzie Q and Candice had been friends when kids. Having a social contact to Imp outside the teacher/pupil relationship might help. But, well, that ship has sailed, and now it should be a while before there's another excuse for Susan and Imp meeting openly.

    TL,DR: Venture is an asshole, Imp should tell Carson an Aegis, but telling Aegis might be problematic.

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    Court wrote: I think Imp is making a mistake not telling Chris immediately. No matter when she tells him, there will be pain and problems, but the later the reveal, the worse the pain and problems will be.


    I disagree. He is still somewhat immature, and this much moral and emotional complexity would be a bit much for him. Not to mention his likely reactions to the fact that a current Whateley teacher (and a former member of the class of people he intended to become - heros) had tried to kill his genetic mother and him while he was in utero. He would be all too likely to throw his life away seeking revenge on Barney.

    As it stands now, he has a loving (adoptive) family, a mentor, a supportive environment in which to learn and grow, and a nagging personal mystery. And time to make real decisions regarding his life path. Given time and perspective, he should become much better equipped to handle the facts.

    I don't believe revenge is likely, the issue is a bit more intricate than that. It comes down to why he wants to be a hero, it's been a while since he's said it but IIRC it's because he believes his birth parents to be heroes and wants to find them and make them proud, right now learning that his birth mother not only isn't a hero but a villain albeit retired villain that he has come to respect, could break him. He has trouble enough as it is right now thinking him and Darque could be a thing because he thinks she's going the villain route, even though she's probably undecided

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  • Sir Lee wrote: Thing is, Imp might not be allowed to wait until he matures a bit more. He is already sniffing around campus for blood relatives. He knows he has at least one, and Imp's own behavior when she was following the amulet (holding his face and saying he has his father's eyes) might have given him a big clue.


    Her statement about his father's eyes can be covered by telling the truth, to an extent. How was Aegis to know that Imp was his mother's BFF? (It's remotely possible that Chris' are similar to Greg's.) It might be best to hear about Aunt Christine from his mother, with all the teen baggage of knowing that Mom must have spies everywhere.

    Sir Lee wrote: (And, by the way, WHO is Aegis' father? Imp obviously knows.)

    The Art of Being The Imp wrote: "About ten...maybe twelve years ago, a so-called hero named the Crimson Kid was chasing after a guy called Monster Max, who was basically just a thug who liked smashing things...

    "The Kid got away with murder, and Max, who wasn't really guilty of anything more than property damage...was executed."



    Considering the many ways that students end up sick or injured, there could be good reason for someone to know about Chris' biological ancestry, whether anyone else knows or not.

    Venture's collection habits are disturbing. Mrs. Carson might be due a full debrief on that and Mr. Miracle (who she may have known personally). A strong point in favor of disclosure is that Lady Astarte won't fly out to Cleveland to kill the guy. Asking SPECTRUM down in Cincy to point Madcap in his direction might not violate the Geneva Conventions.


    Trivia questions:
    * Is Venture one of the Lake Erie Sentinals?
    * Aquerna's bigoted family gathers for Christmas in Cleveland. Between them and Venture, why not celebrate this year with a Thor shot to downtown? Fey's father and brother are surely living in the DC area these days.

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  • Small point of order: El Puno. Am I wrong in assuming that his codename would be more correctly rendered as "El Puño" (The Fist, in Spanish -- note the tilde over the "n"), but that somewhere in the file conversion process the tilde got dropped?

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  • Sir Lee wrote: A few points:
    Thing is, Imp might not be allowed to wait until he matures a bit more. He is already sniffing around campus for blood relatives. He knows he has at least one, and Imp's own behavior when she was following the amulet (holding his face and saying he has his father's eyes) might have given him a big clue.


    To be fair, she did just grab his face and didn't mention the eyes until after she had left, so unless Aegis also has superhearing, he wouldn't know about that.
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  • Sir Lee, you are correct about the tilde and the intended meaning for El Puño's name. However, I would like to make a correction to a previous comment. Imp is not an exemplar. She is a PK and regen with GSD, and is the physical equivalent of an exemplar 2 due to a combination of the regen and GSD, but she does not actually have the exemplar trait.

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  • Uh, I thought that the textbook definition of GSD "proper" (not the other syndromes that tend to be loosely lumped in with GSD) was that it comes from an undesirable BIT? And that the presence of a BIT is what defines the Exemplar trait?

    So, maybe Imp does not have GSD by the more strict definition, but one of those other syndromes? I wonder which one?

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    Sir Lee wrote: A few points:
    Thing is, Imp might not be allowed to wait until he matures a bit more. He is already sniffing around campus for blood relatives. He knows he has at least one, and Imp's own behavior when she was following the amulet (holding his face and saying he has his father's eyes) might have given him a big clue.


    To be fair, she did just grab his face and didn't mention the eyes until after she had left, so unless Aegis also has superhearing, he wouldn't know about that.


    Point. I was misremembering the scene.

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  • Regarding whether to tell Chris, there's a third option: lie. Claim to be his aunt and come clean later. It avoids the issues telling the truth would have, while causing less anger at the inevitable moment of entruthening. Care would be required once he starts asking questions about Imp's "sister," but the need for lying could be minimized through creative application of the truth. "I never knew your mother in adulthood because I ran away from home. But as a kid, she..."

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    Why bother? It's not some irreplaceable artifact. He could just make a new one. The only problem is that it takes a lot of essence. But that's fine. Finding a way to hook Voodude up with essence can be the plot hook to get Aegis and his team into more shenanigans. In fact, this would be an excellent excuse for Team Shenanigans to form an alliance with the Three Little Witches and work together!

    Sir Lee wrote: Too bad Parents' Day has already gone by; it would have been a good pretext to acknowledge that Suzie Q and Candice had been friends when kids. Having a social contact to Imp outside the teacher/pupil relationship might help. But, well, that ship has sailed, and now it should be a while before there's another excuse for Susan and Imp meeting openly.

    Not that long. This story pushed us into December, so Christmas Vacation is just around the corner.

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  • Kettlekorn wrote: Regarding whether to tell Chris, there's a third option: lie. Claim to be his aunt and come clean later. It avoids the issues telling the truth would have, while causing less anger at the inevitable moment of entruthening. Care would be required once he starts asking questions about Imp's "sister," but the need for lying could be minimized through creative application of the truth. "I never knew your mother in adulthood because I ran away from home. But as a kid, she..."

    Malady wrote: Could Voodude make a tracker for the tracker?

    Why bother? It's not some irreplaceable artifact. He could just make a new one. The only problem is that it takes a lot of essence. But that's fine. Finding a way to hook Voodude up with essence can be the plot hook to get Aegis and his team into more shenanigans. In fact, this would be an excellent excuse for Team Shenanigans to form an alliance with the Three Little Witches and work together!

    Sir Lee wrote: Too bad Parents' Day has already gone by; it would have been a good pretext to acknowledge that Suzie Q and Candice had been friends when kids. Having a social contact to Imp outside the teacher/pupil relationship might help. But, well, that ship has sailed, and now it should be a while before there's another excuse for Susan and Imp meeting openly.

    Not that long. This story pushed us into December, so Christmas Vacation is just around the corner.

    Or settle with being his crazy aunt. When he starts asking questions, he should be told, but perhaps with someone else there too, like Carson

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  • Kettlekorn wrote:

    Malady wrote: Could Voodude make a tracker for the tracker?

    Why bother? It's not some irreplaceable artifact. He could just make a new one. The only problem is that it takes a lot of essence. But that's fine. Finding a way to hook Voodude up with essence can be the plot hook to get Aegis and his team into more shenanigans. In fact, this would be an excellent excuse for Team Shenanigans to form an alliance with the Three Little Witches and work together!


    Because it takes a lot of Essence, so he can't make a new Family Tracker as soon as Aegis would want, but he could make a Tracker Tracker to get basically the same results, but faster.

    We dunno if Tracker Trackers are basically as Essence intensive, though.
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  • Kettlekorn wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: Too bad Parents' Day has already gone by; it would have been a good pretext to acknowledge that Suzie Q and Candice had been friends when kids. Having a social contact to Imp outside the teacher/pupil relationship might help. But, well, that ship has sailed, and now it should be a while before there's another excuse for Susan and Imp meeting openly.

    Not that long. This story pushed us into December, so Christmas Vacation is just around the corner.

    Christmas vacations sends Aegis back home, yes, but it does not provide a ready-made excuse for Susan and Imp faking their "meeting for the first time since they were teens." The whole point being to create a context in which Aegis accepts Imp as part of his personal life (instead of just being his teacher) before the whole "I'm your mother" thing comes up.

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  • Sir Lee wrote: Christmas vacations sends Aegis back home, yes, but it does not provide a ready-made excuse for Susan and Imp faking their "meeting for the first time since they were teens."


    Why would they need to fake it? Both women are adults: neither one has to account for their whereabouts while Chris is at school.

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  • They could straight up tell the truth: Imp didn't keep in touch with her old friend while she was a villain, and now that she's retired she spent some of her free time tracking her down and reconnecting. No big deal.

    If faking were actually necessary, they could just manufacture an excuse for Susan to pick Chris up from Whateley in person. It's only an eight hour drive from Berlin to Rochester, so she could claim she felt like taking a road trip with her son, with it doubling as an opportunity to say hello to this teacher he's been raving about without having to wait until the next Parent's Day. Then they're free to arrange a meet up later in the break for for prank caroling or whatever.

    There's also Plan B: Casually mention to Melissa that if by chance she were to throw a big Christmas party for all her new friends, she should remember to invite their parents as well so the grownups won't feel left out.

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  • So there are still a few mysteries here, right?

    Who is the father? (Did I miss this?)
    When will Imp come clean? (And Where?)
    Will we even find out if Venture gets in trouble?
    Will Voodude get the credit for the magic item? :)
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  • Perhaps a bit late chiming in, but a couple thoughts. I like how the impression was given that the solid was owed to an A-class super villain, with the script being flipped at the end to show that it was actually a hero who called it in. Just another sign that the imp has as many shades of grey as she can fit on her pallet.

    From my time spent in CLE, the immediate fixture that jumps to mind is the solder and sailor monument in public square for the horse and rider, though the buildings around there tend to be a bit taller than was described.

    Thus far, the Imp has tried to drill into Aegis' head what a 'bad' hero looks like. Perhaps the next major step in her instruction will be to paint for him the picture of what makes a hero someone she can respect. Undoubtedly, Doc M's actions will be mentioned (particularly if he's still working through his anti-GSD bias). This nugget of information could be one more building block in filling in Aegis as to whom his birth mom was.

    Looking forward, I wouldn't mind seeing a friendly sim match between Aegis and Mischief. At some point, the former will need/want practice dealing with a heist in progress and the later will need to spar against someone other than her mentor.

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  • Wild speculation here: I think it would be funny if Venture (or the Venture Estate) tried to sue Imp. She's not hard to find now that she's a teacher.

    The return volley obviously, would be a class-action lawsuit to "repatriate" the 'war trophies.' This could eventually lead to the Venture Estate going bankrupt, and him joining the Imp Revenge Squad!
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  • Katssun wrote: Wild speculation here: I think it would be funny if Venture (or the Venture Estate) tried to sue Imp. She's not hard to find now that she's a teacher.

    The return volley obviously, would be a class-action lawsuit to "repatriate" the 'war trophies.' This could eventually lead to the Venture Estate going bankrupt, and him joining the Imp Revenge Squad!

    I think that Venture will not sue Imp. Why? If he (or his estate) sues Imp, they will admit that they were vulnerable to her sneaking in and taking something (no matter what that something is), On another note though, I totally agree with everyone else who has said that she needs to inform Mrs Carson of Venture's proclivity to collect trophies that he hasn't won, and inform Carson that for all Imp knows somehow Venture has collected a complete costume for her (including used underwear!!!) and that he wouldn't return Doc M's stuff even after being offered a more than reasonable inducement...
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  • JG wrote: we will ignore that possession of stolen property is a crime...


    When were Miss Champion's panties reported stolen?

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    JG wrote: we will ignore that possession of stolen property is a crime...


    When were Miss Champion's panties reported stolen?


    When did Imp fight her?

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  • Astrodragon wrote:

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    JG wrote: we will ignore that possession of stolen property is a crime...


    When were Miss Champion's panties reported stolen?


    When did Imp fight her?


    Long enough ago that a statute of limitations may come into play?

    Sun Wu Kong, on the other hand, may have been more recent.

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  • null0trooper wrote:

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    null0trooper wrote:

    JG wrote: we will ignore that possession of stolen property is a crime...


    When were Miss Champion's panties reported stolen?


    When did Imp fight her?


    Long enough ago that a statute of limitations may come into play?

    This is true....

    Sun Wu Kong, on the other hand, may have been more recent.

    Anyone who is foolish enough to take action against the Monkey King is probably slightly insane and may set off the apocalypse just to see the fireworks!!!
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  • Whilst teaching Chris what a bad hero looks like might be simple, teaching what a good hero looks like is also fairly easy.

    Ryan.

    The real question is will she tell Ryan who Chris is first?
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  • Katssun wrote: Would she need to? Chris is close friends with Melissa. Melissa could even be the one to tell Chris that she also knows a hero that might give him some tips.


    "Chris needs a role model who doesn't suck, and Dad needs Imp, and I need Dad, so WIN!"

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  • Sir Lee wrote: Uh, I thought that the textbook definition of GSD "proper" (not the other syndromes that tend to be loosely lumped in with GSD) was that it comes from an undesirable BIT? And that the presence of a BIT is what defines the Exemplar trait?

    So, maybe Imp does not have GSD by the more strict definition, but one of those other syndromes? I wonder which one?


    I don't remember exactly, but it was a major factor in the Ayla stories. GSD is a genetic trait while being an exemplar with an undesirable BIT is only "GSD" in quotes. Alya went to his various sources twice, once when he thought he had GSD and then again when he discovered he actually had a BIT.
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  • Two things come to mind.

    Whateley did a very thorough background check on Imp, and Liz Carson asked Imp to be Chris' mentor.

    Co-incidence?
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  • annachie wrote: Two things come to mind.

    Whateley did a very thorough background check on Imp, and Liz Carson asked Imp to be Chris' mentor.

    Co-incidence?

    Probably, because then she'd know what Williams did too, all she knows is that it was something big because Imp doesn't hold grudges, she's professional, when things get personal, she settles the score and moves on, but despite it being over a decade ago, the score isn't settled, so all Carson knows is that there's a score between them that can't be settled

    Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
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