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Question Scald-Crow 1: The Rocky Road to Whateley

5 years 4 months ago #1 by DanZilla
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    5 years 4 months ago #2 by Malady
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  • Given that hunter in the background, I expected more danger than there was. Like possessing the Principal or something. The way she was described made her seem more dangerous than she was. Yeah, she got Grainne expelled, but didn't just manifest a killer spirit and try to slay her.

    Nice first part of the intro! Getting her cleanly split from her hometown, for a smooth transfer to Whateley and stuff!

    And given the title, she is actually gonna get to Whateley.

    Hmm... Formal arrested, so Red Carded and dropped off like Claude or some of the other Gen2 Juvie kids or whatever?

    Hoping that the MCO agents are putting up a facade, and are actually on the up and up...

    ...

    I'm surprised that Goodkind money is spent on local politics, or is it filtered through some organizations instead of donated directly?

    Shipping with Sophia or John, 'cause they're the only viable candidates. Leaning on Sophia 'cause as another mutant, they can be at Whateley together!

    Was afraid that Sophia was gonna try and exorcise Morrigan out, after she saw her the first time, but thankfully not!
    5 years 4 months ago - 5 years 4 months ago #3 by mhalpern
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  • Character witnesses on the alleged victims?

    Edit of course if she escapes after the local MCO tries to disapear her they could be tried with kidnapping, especially if it is after a scheduled court appearance and it is clear in how she escapes that she was still in their custody at the time, that shit gets it kicked up to state, and there are plenty waiting to nail the MCO, and they are in Miles Wylann's (Absinthe's father's) territory

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    5 years 4 months ago - 5 years 4 months ago #4 by ShadowedSin
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  • Lol. You guys are onto some stuff. But a few points are off.

    The school is charging her as the attacker, since it's the varsity squad's word against hers. The MCO sees no point in investigating since Fairchild called them.

    There are several very rich families in Whatcom, many are Uber conservative.

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    5 years 4 months ago - 5 years 4 months ago #5 by Court
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  • I was curious, and so googled The Rocky Road to Dublin, and youtube popped up a video by The Dubliners that was utterly incomprehensible. After that, though, it gave an arrangement by The High Kings, which was very good indeed. I posted a link in the Song-Links thread.
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  • ShadowedSin wrote: Lol. You guys are onto some stuff. But a few points are off.

    The school is charging her as the attacker, since it's the varsity squad's word against hers. The MCO sees no point in investigating since Fairchild called them.

    There are several very rich families in Whatcom, many are Uber conservative.



    OHH THAT is golden, the burden of proof is on the state, by refusing to investigate, all the defense needs is to draw suspicion on the witnesses for the prosecution, all you need to do is get them to admit to their usual behavior, shouldn't be hard for a decent lawyer as they are teens that wouldn't recognize what they are being asked in cross examination, the other route is catching them in a lie, which can invalidate their testimony, a good lawyer will do both.

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    5 years 4 months ago - 5 years 4 months ago #7 by ShadowedSin
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  • mhalpern wrote:

    ShadowedSin wrote: Lol. You guys are onto some stuff. But a few points are off.

    The school is charging her as the attacker, since it's the varsity squad's word against hers. The MCO sees no point in investigating since Fairchild called them.

    There are several very rich families in Whatcom, many are Uber conservative.



    OHH THAT is golden, the burden of proof is on the state, by refusing to investigate, all the defense needs is to draw suspicion on the witnesses for the prosecution, all you need to do is get them to admit to their usual behavior, shouldn't be hard for a decent lawyer as they are teens that wouldn't recognize what they are being asked in cross examination, the other route is catching them in a lie, which can invalidate their testimony, a good lawyer will do both.


    My dear fellow, look up Gerald Jameson.

    Court wrote: I was curious, and so googled The Rocky Road to Dublin, and youtube popped up a video by The Dubliners that was utterly incomprehensible. After that, though, it gave an arrangement by The High Kings, which was very good indeed. I posted a link in the Song-Links thread.


    The Kings of Connaught have a good one. I can easily understand the Dubliners. Then again, I lived in Ireland for a summer.

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  • ShadowedSin wrote: The Kings of Connaught have a good one. I can easily understand the Dubliners. Then again, I lived in Ireland for a summer.


    I'm fond of The Pogues' "Medley" ( The Recruiting Sergeant / Rocky Road To Dublin / The Galway Races )

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  • Oh Gods, I'm geeking out so much from having Morpheus post thoughts on my story *Fangirls hard*!

    That being said, all of your thoughts on this -one- part are seriously sparking ideas. I'm about done with part 3, I need to polish off scene 2. And I'll be ready to tear into Scald 2.

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  • ShadowedSin wrote: Oh Gods, I'm geeking out so much from having Morpheus post thoughts on my story *Fangirls hard*!

    That being said, all of your thoughts on this -one- part are seriously sparking ideas. I'm about done with part 3, I need to polish off scene 2. And I'll be ready to tear into Scald 2.

    Uhm, I'm Dreamer, Morpheus is another person on the forums. :oops: I just do this story commentary each week both because several of the authors have said they like them and a way for me to enjoy the story.

    Thank You for story comments appreciated and help me know me they are being read and liked. :-) Note: My story comments can't nor are trying to replace reading the stories, simply my way of enjoying them and letting the authors know I enjoy them.
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  • Dreamer wrote:

    ShadowedSin wrote: Oh Gods, I'm geeking out so much from having Morpheus post thoughts on my story *Fangirls hard*!

    That being said, all of your thoughts on this -one- part are seriously sparking ideas. I'm about done with part 3, I need to polish off scene 2. And I'll be ready to tear into Scald 2.

    Uhm, I'm Dreamer, Morpheus is another person on the forums. :oops: I just do this story commentary each week both because several of the authors have said they like them and a way for me to enjoy the story.


    Sorry, I confused you two! Still, your commentary is amazing. It really made this author feel awesome.

    ((Morpheus has the name dream in his discord name. apologies))!

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    5 years 4 months ago - 5 years 4 months ago #13 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • mhalpern wrote: OHH THAT is golden, the burden of proof is on the state, by refusing to investigate, all the defense needs is to draw suspicion on the witnesses for the prosecution, all you need to do is get them to admit to their usual behavior, shouldn't be hard for a decent lawyer as they are teens that wouldn't recognize what they are being asked in cross examination, the other route is catching them in a lie, which can invalidate their testimony, a good lawyer will do both.


    You don't actually think it would ever go to trial, do you? The MCO's usual method for cases such as this is to deny that they every had the person in custody, ever heard of the person at all, or that that their agents ever came within a mile of that school, then accuse the parents of creating a false record of a child who never existed for the purpose of suing a large and well-funded international NGO.

    It is safe to say that both Fairchild and the County Registrar mean to destroy all documents mentioning the existence of Padraig O'Callaghan (and Sophia Jameson, too, since the MCO will undoubtedly insist that she come with them as a 'material witness') the minute they are off school grounds - all in the name of assisting the legitimate operations of the MCO, of course. I can even see the MCO risking a black bag operation to remove the documents at the Callaghan's and Jameson's homes, while planting 'evidence' that there never were such people.

    After all, we've seen them do this before, haven't we?

    Though doing this so close to Seattle may end up backfiring on them, should Miles Waylann get wind of it.

    And there's the rub: the MCO itself is so inconsistent, so schizoid, so full of contentious internal politics, so contradictory in how different offices act (consider the actions of the Dallas office in "Small Mercies" compared to the Sioux Falls office in "Buffalo Gal") - and with a leadership which seems to encourage an almost reflexive level of paranoia and duplicity - that it is impossible to say if this will happen or not. The organization's procedures are so sloppy and oversight so loose (hence why Waylann's rules-lawyering is atypical) that how they handle a given case seems to often come down to the individual offices, or even individual agents.

    'Buffalo Gal' by ElrodW wrote: "I mean, if you call the MCO," he said, looking solemnly at Mom, "you could just flip a coin as to whether you'll ever see her again, or whether she'll just disappear, like too many other youth mutants such as Sara Johnson and Roberta Jennings."


    The MCO (at least in the Gen 1 time period) seems to be in a perpetual state of low-key civil war, a state apparently encouraged by the ex-intelligence agents at the top. They could try to disappear them as I described... or they could just pack them off to Whateley with new identities and a whispered, "don't tell my boss". Or any of a dozen other possibilities. There's just no way to tell yet.

    And you'll never know why they did what they did, later, because it is as likely to be a matter of office politics as it is to be out of good or bad intent.

    The fact that this inconsistency and dissonance suits the dramatic needs of the CC (TINCC) is coincidence, surely.

    No wonder Jadis was able to pull off that dodge in "Saks and Violence"; to your typical LEOs (even in New York City), just about any behavior must seem plausible from the MCO.

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  • Schol-R-LEA wrote:

    mhalpern wrote: OHH THAT is golden, the burden of proof is on the state, by refusing to investigate, all the defense needs is to draw suspicion on the witnesses for the prosecution, all you need to do is get them to admit to their usual behavior, shouldn't be hard for a decent lawyer as they are teens that wouldn't recognize what they are being asked in cross examination, the other route is catching them in a lie, which can invalidate their testimony, a good lawyer will do both.


    You don't actually think it would ever go to trial, do you? The MCO's usual method for cases such as this is to deny that they every had the person in custody, ever heard of the person at all, or that that their agents ever came within a mile of that school, then accuse the parents of creating a false record of a child who never existed for the purpose of suing a large and well-funded international NGO.

    It is safe to say that both Fairchild and the County Registrar mean to destroy all documents mentioning the existence of Padraig O'Callaghan (and Sophia Jameson, too, since the MCO will undoubtedly insist that she come with them as a 'material witness') the minute they are off school grounds - all in the name of assisting the legitimate operations of the MCO, of course. I can even see the MCO risking a black bag operation to remove the documents at the Callaghan's and Jameson's homes, while planting 'evidence' that there never were such people.

    After all, we've seen them do this before, haven't we?

    Though doing this so close to Seattle may end up backfiring on them, should Miles Waylann get wind of it.

    And there's the rub: the MCO itself is so inconsistent, so schizoid, so full of contentious internal politics, so contradictory in how different offices act (consider the actions of the Dallas office in "Small Mercies" compared to the Sioux Falls office in "Buffalo Gal") - and with a leadership which seems to encourage an almost reflexive level of paranoia and duplicity - that it is impossible to say if this will happen or not. The organization's procedures are so sloppy and oversight so loose (hence why Waylann's rules-lawyering is atypical) that how they handle a given case seems to often come down to the individual offices, or even individual agents.

    'Buffalo Gal' by ElrodW wrote: "I mean, if you call the MCO," he said, looking solemnly at Mom, "you could just flip a coin as to whether you'll ever see her again, or whether she'll just disappear, like too many other youth mutants such as Sara Johnson and Roberta Jennings."


    The MCO (at least in the Gen 1 time period) seems to be in a perpetual state of low-key civil war, a state apparently encouraged by the ex-intelligence agents at the top. They could try to disappear them as I described... or they could just pack them off to Whateley with new identities and a whispered, "don't tell my boss". Or any of a dozen other possibilities. There's just no way to tell yet.

    And you'll never know why they did what they did, later, because it is as likely to be a matter of office politics as it is to be out of good or bad intent.

    The fact that this inconsistency and dissonance suits the dramatic needs of the CC (TINCC) is coincidence, surely.

    No wonder Jadis was able to pull off that dodge in "Saks and Violence"; to your typical LEOs (even in New York City), just about any behavior must seem plausible from the MCO.

    Having a respected member of the local buisiness council as witness to the arrest stacks things,

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  • Gerald is the Lawyer for the Lummi Business council :)

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  • ShadowedSin wrote: Gerald is the Lawyer for the Lummi Business council :)


    So if/when they try anything they are f-ed, probably making sure the right to have parent/guardian and/or legal council present is exercised at all times... I suspect they sprang for a Giz phone, anticipating something to come up,

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  • interesting that she has the syn fiber allergy but not the dietary restrictions we have seen come with it in the past...

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  • mhalpern wrote: interesting that she has the syn fiber allergy but not the dietary restrictions we have seen come with it in the past...


    The aversion to meat hasn't been presented as a physical intolerance, it's just not appealing anymore. It could just be that her body's need for complete proteins overrode the tofu cravings.

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  • null0trooper wrote:

    mhalpern wrote: interesting that she has the syn fiber allergy but not the dietary restrictions we have seen come with it in the past...


    The aversion to meat hasn't been presented as a physical intolerance, it's just not appealing anymore. It could just be that her body's need for complete proteins overrode the tofu cravings.


    or that she is becoming something deeply magical enough to be affected by unnatural things yet isnt Sidhe

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  • I found the section titled: Friday Afternoon, October 16th, 2007 - Lummi Island, very confusing. It seems to constantly shift in time and place, a lot of it does not actually happen in late afternoon. The fact that he is daydreaming while on the ferry home really needs to be estabished earlier than it is.
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  • If she isn't sidhe, and that's pretty clear, but still has all the terrible synthetic allergies, my first guess Morgan is one of the lesser Tuatha De Danann. She's named after The Morrigan, but she isn't The Morrigan. Alternatively, she could just be Aos Sí, or even just a prominent figure who escaped death. A dullahan, and a lovely depiction of one, is after Morgan directly, killing any of her hosts/avatars to get to her.

    The dullahan never speaks to the hosts, it's always "Tik Tock rider."

    Rage unlocking the connection is a clue for sure, but I have no idea what it is! I don't know Gaelic mythology that well. The stuff above is pretty much the extent of my knowledge.

    But let me gush about how so super creepy and well done the dullahan parts are. She creepy-whispers to the host, knowing that Morgan can hear, she flickers in and out of sight, either through the corner of someone's eye or in brief reflections. She attacks from the mirrors! I'm in love!

    I almost felt like the expulsion really wasn't a mutant issue at all. Sophia, even if she's protected by her grandfather, is just ignored and ostracized, but they do leave her alone. Because even if she isn't any more. She was a cheerleader, so they may have ended the persecution there because of that. This is entirely about the football team. Varsity Blues style, but if the coach was the hero and the ending was bleak.

    I hope Scald-Crow and Superchick get to gossip all about rural Washington when the former finally gets to Whateley. It could be interesting.
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  • Part of the story is about who Morgan is, and why she is the way she is :D

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  • This fits in nicely with the Celtic approach towards the Gods, in that they were specific roles, that were partaken of by individuals that were born, grew old, and, died.

    A strong example can be found in the death of Lugh.


    If the constant was a spirit that was moving from Hallow to Hallow, it would work as a mechanism to explain it.


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  • It is interesting that the 'Main Character' gives the translation of his chosen name as grain, while I've seen the translation as Grace... as in this song: Oro se do bheath 'bhaile....
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  • Heh. A lot of research told me that Grainne could me "wheat or corn". Other definitions it can translate as sun or to the name Grace.

    I almost chose it as my name before deciding on Quinn. Grainne Roisin aka Grace Rose, is perhaps one of my favorite characters to date. Especially since her name has multiple meanings and definitions.

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  • Irish is weird. It's like you have a word that's pronounced "zark", spelled tfznaric, and can mean hello, Monday, the colour pinkish-green, or hippopotamus.

    I have no idea how anything gets done in it. It must be the best language for puns, though.
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  • It's a celtic language, its basically elvish.

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  • JulesMorrison wrote: Irish is weird. It's like you have a word that's pronounced "zark", spelled tfznaric, and can mean hello, Monday, the colour pinkish-green, or hippopotamus.

    I have no idea how anything gets done in it. It must be the best language for puns, though.

    Eh. Whatever the language, a word with radically different meanings is usually pretty easy to deal with since most of the definitions won't actually make sense in a specific usage and humans are good at figuring stuff out from context. "Tfznaric, class! Before we get started, I want to remind everybody that the final project will be due on Tfznaric. Remember to put it in the tfznaric bin, not the purple one. Also, I've decided that each period will vote on the other period's projects, and the best five of each period will be awarded a tfznaric tfznaric plushy! Do your best!"

    And it's not like we don't have this kind of thing in English. Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo, after all.

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  • PTSD / ADHD / Whatever, lasting even after a strong spirit is being hosted and is presumably trying to maintain mental stability. Interesting. Never seen that before. Then again, it's a rare circumstance?

    Feels very event-heavy, but the emotional bits were great and sweet and all that good stuff!

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    Lol, Navi and Jiminy comparison puns! And HEY! LISTEN! Pun!

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    And here I thought the Dullahan was an independent, not a hired assassin...

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    Huh, no Danger Sense Testing... Soo weird. I guess they're not as rigorous as Whateley, because they don't need to be??

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    Westbrook... So, that's a new set of characters. Okay!

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    Sophia's dad is pretty tied into mutant affairs, hearing about Sophia's transfer like that? And Whateley info like that.

    How much power does he have to screw things up for them??

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  • Malady wrote:
    Westbrook... So, that's a new set of characters. Okay!


    Actually, re-read Fox Tails 1 and check the names :)

    "Uh-oh." "Don't tell me - we're about to go over a huge waterfall." "Yup." "Sharp rocks at the bottom?" "Most likely." "Bring it on."

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  • Please tell me they have castle laws... for those that arent familiar with the term, it basically means if people break into/ attack your home, they are more or less free game until they get off your property.

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  • FiddlerFox wrote:

    Malady wrote:
    Westbrook... So, that's a new set of characters. Okay!


    Actually, re-read Fox Tails 1 and check the names :)


    I think I have identified who is going to be Grainne's roommate from that comment

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  • I like how you guys are focusing on the end and you're missing all the info revealed about a villain.

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  • Dreamer as always your thought stream always makes me smile.

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    5 years 3 months ago #37 by mhalpern
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  • ShadowedSin wrote: I like how you guys are focusing on the end and you're missing all the info revealed about a villain.


    Not enough info to tell if its going to be a long term arc or not, it looks like it could be or they could get foiled once she is enrolled and they (boss villain) end up being disappeared with the protagonist none the wiser.

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    5 years 2 months ago - 5 years 2 months ago #38 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • Given the reference to "the True Fenians ", I would presume that this is related to a dispute/grudge between the Fianna and the Tuatha Dé Danaan ( The Mórrígan is usually described as one of the Tuatha). Or, possibly, between some remnant of the Fomóire against both.

    Though looking at it again, the mention of True Fenians seems to refer to the actual band of Fionn mac Cumhaill, centuries earlier, meaning the the assassin is herself an immortal, either a Tuatha or a Formorian. She also refers to the late Sinéad Maguire as a Fianna, and it doesn't seem to be a referece to the modern Fenian movement, so it is the descendants of the original Fianna are still an active group working in secret, and Sinnead was one of them. The mention of the Republic of Ireland doesn't seem political either, but about the Gardia's investigation into the death (and as we readers know, murder) of Spirit Song.

    However, it is ambiguous enough that it could also be connected to the continued (if muted since the Good Friday Agreement) tension between Éire and Northern Ireland, though probably only tangentially.

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  • In part 1 of the story the Sinead PoV established the Fianna as a western Irish super-team based out of Galway.

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    5 years 2 months ago #40 by Erianaiel
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  • mhalpern wrote:

    ShadowedSin wrote: Lol. You guys are onto some stuff. But a few points are off.

    The school is charging her as the attacker, since it's the varsity squad's word against hers. The MCO sees no point in investigating since Fairchild called them.

    There are several very rich families in Whatcom, many are Uber conservative.



    OHH THAT is golden, the burden of proof is on the state, by refusing to investigate, all the defense needs is to draw suspicion on the witnesses for the prosecution, all you need to do is get them to admit to their usual behavior, shouldn't be hard for a decent lawyer as they are teens that wouldn't recognize what they are being asked in cross examination, the other route is catching them in a lie, which can invalidate their testimony, a good lawyer will do both.


    That is of course assuming there will be an actual trial.
    Odds are very high that the plan is to expell Grianne, hand her over to the MCO (since the principal clearly believes that all mutants are murderous anyway and should be locked up post haste).
    Then invent an incident while she is in custody followed by a denial she ever was in custody by the MCO.

    Whatever happened at/with Fullerton (and I sincerely hope that this will never be detailed since it is far more useful and menacing as a noodle incident) it allowed the MCO to regain much of their former standing and they gained a lot more support for their mutant hating ways.
    From this story at the very least it seems clear that the MCO attempts to start up butcher's row yet again. And the Directorate appears convinced that peaceful coexistence with the MCO (and perhaps baseline humanity) is not possible in the long run. So extremists at both side plan for war.
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  • Erianaiel wrote:

    mhalpern wrote:

    ShadowedSin wrote: Lol. You guys are onto some stuff. But a few points are off.

    The school is charging her as the attacker, since it's the varsity squad's word against hers. The MCO sees no point in investigating since Fairchild called them.

    There are several very rich families in Whatcom, many are Uber conservative.



    OHH THAT is golden, the burden of proof is on the state, by refusing to investigate, all the defense needs is to draw suspicion on the witnesses for the prosecution, all you need to do is get them to admit to their usual behavior, shouldn't be hard for a decent lawyer as they are teens that wouldn't recognize what they are being asked in cross examination, the other route is catching them in a lie, which can invalidate their testimony, a good lawyer will do both.


    That is of course assuming there will be an actual trial.
    Odds are very high that the plan is to expell Grianne, hand her over to the MCO (since the principal clearly believes that all mutants are murderous anyway and should be locked up post haste).
    Then invent an incident while she is in custody followed by a denial she ever was in custody by the MCO.

    Whatever happened at/with Fullerton (and I sincerely hope that this will never be detailed since it is far more useful and menacing as a noodle incident) it allowed the MCO to regain much of their former standing and they gained a lot more support for their mutant hating ways.
    From this story at the very least it seems clear that the MCO attempts to start up butcher's row yet again. And the Directorate appears convinced that peaceful coexistence with the MCO (and perhaps baseline humanity) is not possible in the long run. So extremists at both side plan for war.


    Actually I dont get that impression so much, plus this in Gen 1 the powers that be that want to tame the MCO have been demonstrated as successfully setting up the system where more violent officers end up in low activity regions and the good ones end up where there's a higher mutant population, yes they are getting away with a lot more, but overall it looks like despite Fullerton the people at the very top or near the top are the ones who in Gen 1 were trying to clean up the organization, doing what they can as they wait for political tensions to cool enough for them to start cleaning house proper, they could even be the ones informing the Directorate on MCO activities.

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  • This is set before Fullerton.

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  • Next episode is up, and I do have one question: Do the Irish Defense Forces really do death notifications the way it is done in this story? The way it was handled struck me as extraordinary, not to mention horribly insensitive.
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  • So I did a bit of research in response to your question. The answer is I was able to find a standard manual on bereavement, but not an actual listing of how it was covered. However, Maeve is a member of the clandestine forces of the IRDF and this isn't the first time she's lost comrades.

    Could the guy have been more sympathetic, yes he could. When I wrote this I was focused on Maeve's irritation and the way she was treated not on making the officer in question a nice guy. Maeve's a specialist, her work involves military AND espionage on a lot of levels. This hasn't been the first time some asshole's been disrespectful for her position as a specialist.

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  • Morgan and Maeve! So close, and travelling apart!

    So much tension there!

    Woo, finally got the MIDs!

    Wonder what's in the Classified package.

    Therapy, therapy... Wonder who's giving it...

    And no mention of the "Did your sex change" question in the application? Interesting.
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  • There is still the question, I didn't see a point in making a deal over it. What is listed is what was considered the most important for the character. A lot of this is done from a trans girl's opinion I would have just marked "yes" and moved on.

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  • someone needs to learn the distinction between someone who has killed and a killer, she acted in the fog of war, and went after the presumed leader of the goons trying to kill her, he may not have personally held a weapon but it was still self defense, and most importantly she was remorseful which had Dickinson got his way, he wouldnt have felt the same,

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  • Dreamer as always your thought stream made my day. Work on Scald 2 is slowly progressing chapters 1-2 are done and I'm working on a major scene for chapter 3 :D

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  • Dreamer wrote:

    "By the blacken Oak,
    I invoke the twisting ties of Loki.
    Venom of the serpent,
    I seek the chaos of the Trickster."

    Oh ****! Not good, so very not good. All those things, just what magic is she crafting her? All this to contain the bad luck and probability to cause what she wishes to happen, please don't let Sinnead's sister be killed as well.


    The thing is, even IF Chaos weren't a blade as likely to cut its wielder as another, Loki's kin do not appreciate being tied,

    Dreamer wrote: All that to properly purge the hex bag, a nasty piece of work seems too mild for such a thing now. *winces* All those emotions from an aura she is reading, but it isn't Jimenez, so why is she detecting it from him?

    Yes, and I need ta find out why my sister's Spirit left an auric trace on the agent.

    Ah, picking up Morgan's auric trace on him, but she is wrong about Morgan knowing who killed Sinnead, at least as far as we know.


    There's a chance that re-reading will answer the question.

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  • ShadowedSin wrote: There is still the question, I didn't see a point in making a deal over it. What is listed is what was considered the most important for the character. A lot of this is done from a trans girl's opinion I would have just marked "yes" and moved on.


    IIRC, most everyone else has been surprised by the question and what the implications are that they're even asking it...

    You're saying that Scald-Crow expected this question. How?

    Well, Morgan, perhaps? Song Spirit did go to Whateley, it seems? But remembering that question? Or maybe just remembering that the questions are a bit invasive...

    Not sure if Morgan is the first spirit that's going to Whateley twice...
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  • Malady wrote:

    ShadowedSin wrote: There is still the question, I didn't see a point in making a deal over it. What is listed is what was considered the most important for the character. A lot of this is done from a trans girl's opinion I would have just marked "yes" and moved on.


    IIRC, most everyone else has been surprised by the question and what the implications are that they're even asking it...

    You're saying that Scald-Crow expected this question. How?

    Well, Morgan, perhaps? Song Spirit did go to Whateley, it seems? But remembering that question? Or maybe just remembering that the questions are a bit invasive...

    Not sure if Morgan is the first spirit that's going to Whateley twice...


    You are forgetting she was trans before manifesting and knew it, she likely learned through her research that manifesting was one of the ways her body could. match her mind, and her own experience confirmed that research, from that perspective she would probably think "of course I am not the only one"

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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Dreamer wrote:

    "By the blacken Oak,
    I invoke the twisting ties of Loki.
    Venom of the serpent,
    I seek the chaos of the Trickster."

    Oh ****! Not good, so very not good. All those things, just what magic is she crafting her? All this to contain the bad luck and probability to cause what she wishes to happen, please don't let Sinnead's sister be killed as well.


    The thing is, even IF Chaos weren't a blade as likely to cut its wielder as another, Loki's kin do not appreciate being tied,


    Look at Fenris for a "Grim" example... :P


    This is also an effective, narrative, working explanation of how a Mage can try to avoid problems with castings, but instead they'll just be setting themself up for larger debts in the future.

    There's always a Meta-jump.

    They can avoid the penalty for the original casting, but then they have to deal with the price for the Luck Transfer spell.


    One thing to mention, that in the Norse Frame-Of-Reference for spell-work, Luck is a very specific quality.

    Mess with it and it bites back.

    Nice to see that described here. :D


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  • My apologies fair readers... When I transferred part 3 of the story to our site I inadvertently scrubbed the italics from the document... they've since been fixed and some passages will read much better.
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  • Hey SS, I really enjoyed this one. Thanks so much for the new tale. I wonder if we will get the story from the train or just fast forward to Whateley.
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  • marie7342231 wrote: Hey SS, I really enjoyed this one. Thanks so much for the new tale. I wonder if we will get the story from the train or just fast forward to Whateley.


    My bet would be to pick up the new story in Boston or Dunwich, with the recognition that they're a long way from home.

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  • null0trooper wrote:

    marie7342231 wrote: Hey SS, I really enjoyed this one. Thanks so much for the new tale. I wonder if we will get the story from the train or just fast forward to Whateley.


    My bet would be to pick up the new story in Boston or Dunwich, with the recognition that they're a long way from home.

    That seems like it would involve traversing a very long road off-screen while encountering no rocks at all, in direct contradiction to the story's title. If there's not at least one train robbery, train crash, high-speed disembarkation, closed room murder mystery, gorge jump, or other mid-voyage chicanery, I'll be demanding a refund!

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  • Kettlekorn wrote:

    null0trooper wrote:

    marie7342231 wrote: Hey SS, I really enjoyed this one. Thanks so much for the new tale. I wonder if we will get the story from the train or just fast forward to Whateley.


    My bet would be to pick up the new story in Boston or Dunwich, with the recognition that they're a long way from home.

    That seems like it would involve traversing a very long road off-screen while encountering no rocks at all, in direct contradiction to the story's title. If there's not at least one train robbery, train crash, high-speed disembarkation, closed room murder mystery, gorge jump, or other mid-voyage chicanery, I'll be demanding a refund!


    Half of the fun with Whateley is the getting there.

    Road trip's are always interesting... :D


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