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5 years 3 months ago #1 by DanZilla
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  • A story from one of our new authors, Fiddlerfox! Please leave comments below...
    5 years 3 months ago #2 by Malady
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  • Reposting from Discord:

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    And now, new thoughts:

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    5 years 3 months ago #3 by cprime
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  • Welcome to TINCC Fiddlerfox, and congradulations. I recognize the story from it's pre-cannon version, so I don't have much to say about the plot. Even so, I enjoyed re-reading it and I look forward to seeing how it will fit into the main timeline.

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    5 years 3 months ago #4 by mhalpern
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  • Nice seeing this come to Canon with a new title. I think I caught a few subtle refinements too,

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    5 years 3 months ago #5 by Dreamer
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    5 years 3 months ago #6 by ShadowedSin
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  • Goddess, it's great to see this -finally- out. Fiddler's been working his ass off in between IRL and his family to get this done.

    This will make things next week make a lot more sense.

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    5 years 3 months ago #7 by Malady
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  • I wonder if the kids got real lucky they didn't have GSD or weird hair and eye colors.

    Or did some of them actually have some eye changes? That they then covered up as contacts??

    ...

    That speech on human rights was great!
    5 years 3 months ago #8 by mhalpern
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  • You know now that this is Canon, I wonder if Carson will arrange for Cat and Alyss to meet, even without the various cyber security and background check experts, she would be able to see the discrepancy between Cat's background and that of her kids from when they enrolled, and do the math, even if she wasn't outright informed as she probably was/will be. It will be good for them both to have someone with shared experiences, there are some differences without getting too far into what I remember from rereading prt 2 of the fanfic version a couple months ago, lets just say Siona manages to downplay how bad it was before she intervened.

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  • Malady wrote: I wonder if the kids got real lucky they didn't have GSD or weird hair and eye colors.

    Or did some of them actually have some eye changes? That they then covered up as contacts??

    ...

    That speech on human rights was great!


    If the old and new eye colors aren't that vibrant, as in they didn't say start out as blue or change to a vibrant color, you wouldn't notice unless you got close, and with the kids going to Whateley, and their father not seeing them for a while, such a difference if noticed can be misinterpreted as a trick of the mind.

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    5 years 3 months ago #10 by Anne
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  • What a wonderful, beautiful story! Even reading it at least the third time, I was in tears more than I ought to have been over a bit of fiction. Yes there were some laughs too, and I can't wait for the next piece to show up.
    I will be sending Fiddlerfox a private message with the corrections that I think ought to be made to improve the readability.... There were a lot of runtogether words like what I just put in here....
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  • Thank you everyone for the kind words. :) There's always the bit of nervousness when throwing something out there (despite the fact that technically it's a canonization with reworking and it was kinda thrown out before, but still...). I'm definitely in the new material mode at the moment though so the storyline will continue beyond anything that's ever been written before.

    @Malady: your first comment is what I hoped people would do. :) I wanted to play with the outsider's perspective as it's a neat lense to look at the chaos that is Whateley.

    @Dreamer: that specific browncoat reference is the Firefly series/Serenity movie (the movie ends the box set series, don't watch them in the other order or it wont make a lot of sense)

    @Anna: my email kept killing the attachments! Stupid thing... I believe it's just formatting issues in the transcribing from my in work copies to the ones posted here. That and like those of us who learned to type in the 90s I double space after periods which many editors or folks who format for internet viewing hate. ;)

    "Uh-oh." "Don't tell me - we're about to go over a huge waterfall." "Yup." "Sharp rocks at the bottom?" "Most likely." "Bring it on."

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    5 years 3 months ago #12 by Anne
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  • I'm not wot worried about spaces after periods, So long as you're consistent. I tend to also double space after a period... It could be due to something I learned sometime about the time the last dinosaur was chased off the face of the Earth... I'll resend the renamed file I think I know why it is dying....
    5 years 2 months ago #13 by DanZilla
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  • Fox Tails (Part 2) is now available for your reading pleasure. Please leave a comment below.
    5 years 2 months ago #14 by Dreamer
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    5 years 2 months ago #15 by mhalpern
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  • I look forward to part 3 where
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    more specifically I look forward to the reaction to it,

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    5 years 2 months ago #16 by Kettlekorn
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  • Bumble-Lass, Bumble-Lass,
    Buzzes her wings while kicking ass
    Zips around, zappin' guys
    Tinkers up a surprise
    Look out! Here flies the Bumble-Lass

    Is she smart? Listen, James,
    She's got radioactive brains
    Is her hive really fab?
    Take a look at her lab!
    Hey there, there works the Bumble-Lass

    Far above the fight
    Off the peak of a spire
    She will catch you tight
    Before you can expire!

    Bumble-Lass, Bumble-Lass,
    Black- and yellow-clad Bumble-Lass
    Has a bow on her butt
    Inspires kids to make the cut
    To her, life's 'bout doing the right thing
    Even when it gets fright'ning
    You'll find the Bumble-Lass!

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    5 years 2 months ago - 5 years 2 months ago #17 by Malady
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  • As seen on the Discord, first thing I noticed was "Huh. An age-regressed person embracing / encountering their sexuality. How novel!"

    A little bit less novel, because Sara, which I totally forgot since that's not such a big part of her character, previously being a basically romantic/sexual relationship-less loner writer guy before going GOO?

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    Overlord being a Inherited Villain Legacy thing... Interesting, but he doesn't seem to have coherent goals? Getting a Civilian-Zombie Army feels like a silly plan, although, getting the supers in there... That's useful.

    But him and Kitty facing off? If that didn't happen, I'd be surprised. The fight's predictable, but that's good, not subverting expectations in a weird non-sensical mess, etc

    Why is the family going full-force villainy? And 3 generations? When did they start again? Are any of the previous holders still alive? Do they kill each other in a takeover thing??

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    Shipping Kitty and Bea because they're close to the same age, mentally.

    Fleshing out the Squires! Nice.

    Witchling! Wooo! And Crucibelle!

    Wonder if Kitty will meet Absinthe, etc.

    Mixing magic with tech, always a fun time!

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    As Mhalpern implies, yeah. the Sex-focus of Siona makes me think, yeah. Succubus-y Fox Thing is gonna be a thing. Like how Cytherea gets power from her "relationships", etc.

    Not sure that's possible for a non-God turned Human Possession, but they're both Spirit-y, so I shrug.
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    5 years 2 months ago #18 by Erianaiel
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  • Malady wrote: Overlord being a Inherited Villain Legacy thing... Interesting, but he doesn't seem to have coherent goals? Getting a Civilian-Zombie Army feels like a silly plan.


    Yes, that was not well thought out by Overlord. Even if he managed to overcome all the supers in Seattle by mindcontrolling them, there is no way that the USA government could fail to notice that one city has ceased to communicate and effectively declared independence. The government can bring in any number of non-mind controlled super teams in, and Overlord's plan has a single point of failure (as was demonstrated by Kitty)

    Why is the family going full-force villainy? And 3 generations? When did they start again? Are any of the previous holders still alive? Do they kill each other in a takeover thing??


    Being evil does not necessarily require being psychotic, or even psychopathic.
    It seems clear to me that covert supervillainy has made the family quite rich. After all, he could afford to buy thousands of fairly advanced robots that he expected to throw at the supers just to keep them distracted.
    The new generation just gets trained by the old one to gradually take over the family trade and as they do so the parents retire more and more often to Karedonia until they just hand over the reins to the children while they enjoy a luxurious retirement in the sun while they are still young enough to enjoy it for many years.
    I can see how this is a highly attractive business plan for a villainous family trade.

    I can also see how the current Overlord has at least a nodding acquintaince with Diedrick's disorder.
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  • Malady wrote: As seen on the Discord, first thing I noticed was "Huh. An age-regressed person embracing / encountering their sexuality. How novel!"

    A little bit less novel, because Sara, which I totally forgot since that's not such a big part of her character, previously being a basically romantic/sexual relationship-less loner writer guy before going GOO?

    ----

    Overlord being a Inherited Villain Legacy thing... Interesting, but he doesn't seem to have coherent goals? Getting a Civilian-Zombie Army feels like a silly plan, although, getting the supers in there... That's useful.

    But him and Kitty facing off? If that didn't happen, I'd be surprised. The fight's predictable, but that's good, not subverting expectations in a weird non-sensical mess, etc

    Why is the family going full-force villainy? And 3 generations? When did they start again? Are any of the previous holders still alive? Do they kill each other in a takeover thing??

    ----

    Shipping Kitty and Bea because they're close to the same age, mentally.

    Fleshing out the Squires! Nice.

    Witchling! Wooo! And Crucibelle!

    Wonder if Kitty will meet Absinthe, etc.

    Mixing magic with tech, always a fun time!

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    As Mhalpern implies, yeah. the Sex-focus of Siona makes me think, yeah. Succubus-y Fox Thing is gonna be a thing. Like how Cytherea gets power from her "relationships", etc.

    Not sure that's possible for a non-God turned Human Possession, but they're both Spirit-y, so I shrug.


    You assume his goal was to control the city, or hold it anyways, The hint I dropped is about all I remember from the fanfic past this point, but consider all the diversions going into it, knowing he wouldn't be able to hold for long most likely, but it did occupy most of those capable of interferring with him for a while..

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    5 years 2 months ago - 5 years 2 months ago #21 by Malady
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  • So, sex-based essence recharge...

    How protected against is she against sexsomnia, I wonder. Well, as long as she's not casting spells so strong that she KOs herself, she'll be okay?

    What *are* the Westbrooks' histories at Whateley? They *have* been active for 3 generations, after all...

    Rhys... Interesting codename, and here I thought we were seeing Persephone Reborn...

    A group of recurring antagonists, apparently, with Haymaker and co...

    Weird evil spirit?? Connected to Rhys?? And ooh, Mrs. Beaumont doing some combat-based training or something.

    Who *is* Kitsune's Academic Advisor? Apparently they met right after testing? ... Or they've integrated testing and class assignments, for those who want that option, and don't feel like quibbling around optional classes and such?
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  • A couple of small clarifications:

    Malady wrote: So, sex-based essence recharge...

    How protected against is she against sexsomnia, I wonder. Well, as long as she's not casting spells so strong that she KOs herself, she'll be okay?


    Currently as far as Catherine is aware she just needs to avoid running dry of either Essence or spirit-energy. Those do recharge for her the normal way as well.

    Malady wrote: What *are* the Westbrooks' histories at Whateley? They *have* been active for 3 generations, after all...


    Keep your eyes peeled in future installments.

    Malady wrote: Rhys... Interesting codename, and here I thought we were seeing Persephone Reborn...


    Rhys is actually just her last name. Persephone Rhys, but she goes by her last name. She does not yet have a codename.

    Malady wrote: A group of recurring antagonists, apparently, with Haymaker and co...

    Weird evil spirit?? Connected to Rhys?? And ooh, Mrs. Beaumont doing some combat-based training or something.


    The evil spirit that Catherine felt was located in the music room at the time Catherine was there, and is not connected to Rhys.

    Malady wrote: Who *is* Kitsune's Academic Advisor? Apparently they met right after testing? ... Or they've integrated testing and class assignments, for those who want that option, and don't feel like quibbling around optional classes and such?


    Keep your eyes peeled for future installments.

    "Uh-oh." "Don't tell me - we're about to go over a huge waterfall." "Yup." "Sharp rocks at the bottom?" "Most likely." "Bring it on."

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  • Dreamer wrote: Yeah, you don't want to have a Fey level "Oops" incident because you don't get trained. And gun safety course for the zapper gun, at least she will get to meet some of the more interesting teachers of Whateley.

    Sergeant Johnny Bravo, please say that is a nickname. So Cat is learning all this all over again, wonder where she learned them before the big change. Crud, panic attack triggered by the sounds of gunshots, with how her old life ended not surprising she has PTSD. Covering her ears and blinking away in a panic, she needs to tell her counselor about this. Going to the Crystal Hall to eat and bunch of creeps taunting her about being an orphan, ugh.

    Blinking into her dorm room through the window, then sneaks out with her mandolin to find a music group she'd seen on a flier, Cat needs an escape right now. Opening the door to a room and blasted with a feeling of pure wrong-ness, Siona telling her to run, what the heck is in that room!


    Just what was the spirit she encountered?


    Thank you very much for the impressions, as always! A joy seeing what people pick up on and are thinking about. :)

    A couple clarifications:

    Sergeant Johnny Bravo is Catherine code for Staff Sergeant Ryan Wilson . It's the comparison that popped into her head and isn't too far off ;)

    Ok, so the spirit reference in the music hall has been one a couple people have wondered about, so it is....

    Sara Waite .

    At the time the story is time stamped, Sara is still on campus and not bound into a piece of paper. Catherine wanted to take music classes or clubs as a place of refuge, but found the class populated by an unknown entity of great power, and it tingled her spirit senses as "Great big danger go the other way."

    So the spirit or being she sensed in the music hall that gave her such alarm was Carmilla.

    "Uh-oh." "Don't tell me - we're about to go over a huge waterfall." "Yup." "Sharp rocks at the bottom?" "Most likely." "Bring it on."

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  • Malady wrote:
    Weird evil spirit?? Connected to Rhys?? And ooh, Mrs. Beaumont doing some combat-based training or something.


    I believe the entity she felt is a fellow student, one whom has a room that travels between Poe and Hawthorne.

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  • I thought it might've been Carmilla, but the lack of any description other than "evil", made that seem slightly unlikely.

    ...

    Oof, that PTSD-thing... Terrible time to learn about it, beyond just having to deal with it.

    She needs the course to use her gear, her bullies have more ammo, etc...

    At least anyone carrying guns on campus usually knows better than to trigger PTSD with it, beyond that being a bad person thing, if they get caught, their guns are confiscated, presumably, etc.

    Hmm... How much will the PTSD add to her "I'm a burden" thoughts?
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  • I am happy to read the story here again. Good work Fiddlerfox. Couple of clarifications.

    1) Would Persephone earn the ire of the New Olympians?

    2) I really feel that it is unrealistic to just let three staff know about the changling nature of Kitsune. I would feel Wildhammer and other martial artist would see through it by her posture and body language. Hell, Fubar can see through it.

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  • I keep forgetting that this story takes place during the 2006-2007 school year, not 2007-2008.

    ebony841 wrote: 1) Would Persephone earn the ire of the New Olympians?

    I doubt they'd do more than make a snide remark once in a while. If she'd picked it as her codename, that would be another story, but this is just a given name that she had no say over and actively avoids using.

    ebony841 wrote: 2) I really feel that it is unrealistic to just let three staff know about the changling nature of Kitsune. I would feel Wildhammer and other martial artist would see through it by her posture and body language. Hell, Fubar can see through it.

    I don't see the problem. It's not like they'll spread it around if they figure it out on their own, so there's no need to warn them to keep it a secret.

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  • There was an influx of freshmen in March 2007? What? Where was word of this in all the other stories? Wouldn't it have made more sense to have her arrive in say Winter 2007? How do the dates work? Why weren't older mid-year students (say Whisper) on this train?
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  • jmhyp wrote: There was an influx of freshmen in March 2007? What? Where was word of this in all the other stories? Wouldn't it have made more sense to have her arrive in say Winter 2007? How do the dates work? Why weren't older mid-year students (say Whisper) on this train?


    : Where was word of this in all the other stories?

    "Ayla and the Mad Scientist" and "Buffalo Gal Won't You Come Out Tonight?" are focused on Team Kimba, Poe Cottage, and Kayda Franks. IF the new characters had existed, they still would not have been featured in those stories.

    : Wouldn't it have made more sense to have her arrive in say Winter 2007?

    No. The seven-week Winter 2007 term starts on Jan. 8, only seven days after Connor Fox gets ventilated with bullets on the other side of the continent. Arriving in the middle of the Winter Term incurs costs for board and tuition for classes in which Catherine has no hope of catching up.

    : Why wasn't Whisper on the train?

    Whisper just got to the school on the 23rd of February, with a Federal agency and a NGO on her tail. Wouldn't it make sense for Brianna to lay low during the break between Winter 2007 and Spring 2007?

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  • "Ayla and the Mad Scientist" and "Buffalo Gal Won't You Come Out Tonight?" are focused on Team Kimba, Poe Cottage, and Kayda Franks. IF the new characters had existed, they still would not have been featured in those stories.


    If the school had to send VANS to dunwich for this influx of freshmen, I would think there would be a passing reference somewhere in at least one of the previous stories.

    No. The seven-week Winter 2007 term starts on Jan. 8, only seven days after Connor Fox gets ventilated with bullets on the other side of the continent. Arriving in the middle of the Winter Term incurs costs for board and tuition for classes in which Catherine has no hope of catching up.


    The date Conner gets shot can be any date. The author just select the old date and types a new date. My point was this was a conscious decision to put the arrival in March 2007. Why?

    And I meant Jan 2008 actually, after the current (and already written stories) take place. This way all the stories we have read don't feel like they are missing the existence of Kitty Fox, not that I expect Ms Fox to be front and center in a bunch of stories. But seeing people in the background provides verisimilitude.
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  • The train station scene and it's date occur during Charge 2: le Snob Francais , including the already written existence of Matt Walker. Instead of the camera panning right to follow Charge, in this case the camera pans left to follow Matt and show Catherine (so to speak).

    Whateley does have incoming students sometimes at all points of the year, as mutants don't really manifest according to a nice schedule and sometimes their needs based upon circumstances or power sets say they need to show up mid term or mid year. It's the same as a family moving mid school year and their child has to change High Schools. Sometimes you hold back for a certain semester or new year, sometimes it happens when it happens.

    Catherine's story isn't set at a specific time to be convenient or come in as a predefined batch with other new characters. Her story is set at the time it is because that's when her story occurs. She does interact with other "established" characters during her story, and such interactions occur at times and places that make sense.

    The other stories aren't missing Catherine.. she just wasn't involved in those events. Similar to a classic show, "Boy Meets World" and the question of "Minkus! Where have you been all this time?" "On the other side of the school."

    Whateley has a lot of students. Not every student is involved with every social group, nor do their paths and stories always cross. We only read about the parts where they do, following the story of the particular POV character.

    "Uh-oh." "Don't tell me - we're about to go over a huge waterfall." "Yup." "Sharp rocks at the bottom?" "Most likely." "Bring it on."

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  • FiddlerFox wrote: The train station scene and it's date occur during Charge 2: le Snob Francais , including the already written existence of Matt Walker. Instead of the camera panning right to follow Charge, in this case the camera pans left to follow Matt and show Catherine (so to speak).

    Whateley does have incoming students sometimes at all points of the year, as mutants don't really manifest according to a nice schedule and sometimes their needs based upon circumstances or power sets say they need to show up mid term or mid year. It's the same as a family moving mid school year and their child has to change High Schools. Sometimes you hold back for a certain semester or new year, sometimes it happens when it happens.

    Catherine's story isn't set at a specific time to be convenient or come in as a predefined batch with other new characters. Her story is set at the time it is because that's when her story occurs. She does interact with other "established" characters during her story, and such interactions occur at times and places that make sense.

    The other stories aren't missing Catherine.. she just wasn't involved in those events. Similar to a classic show, "Boy Meets World" and the question of "Minkus! Where have you been all this time?" "On the other side of the school."

    Whateley has a lot of students. Not every student is involved with every social group, nor do their paths and stories always cross. We only read about the parts where they do, following the story of the particular POV character.


    Plus it would be odd for her to react to Sara like that while she was kidnapped or once she was in her weakened state after being freed, not to mention the fact that when it was first written, it was unknown if Sara would be freed, this makes for a limited window in which we can both learn of her class x detection ability and not give her a chance to learn enough about the student that triggers it until the situation has changed

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  • See, this is why I asked. I completely forgot Charge 2 from 5-6 years ago, started in Dunwich train station in March 2007.
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  • I'm glad this story didn't dawdle to much in the minutia of the rest of the spring semester. I'd imagine maybe a summer adventure and then she'll be at fall with everyone else.

    She clearly still needs to work on the PTSD, and maybe try to figure out if she's missing any other skills to relearn (what a time to find out you don't know how to drive anymore :P). I think one of her other biggest problems is that she is still keeping a lot to herself, afraid to open up and let others help with what she's going through. I feel like she could benefit from a real relationship, with a friend or partner, who knows about her past. Just having one daughter, and select staff members, and Siona, those people are all either too detached personally, or too biased, for her to really talk about her feelings, and for them to help her feel like she matters. She also needs to get over this Poesie Prejudice she's got, especially now that several of them have reached out they way they have. I think she could really use some of their support, if she could get over her preconceptions about them.

    A nice wrap up, looking forward to more of this character.
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  • Acrii wrote: She also needs to get over this Poesie Prejudice she's got, especially now that several of them have reached out they way they have. I think she could really use some of their support, if she could get over her preconceptions about them.


    Bear in mind that "Poesies are Crazies" is a carefully cultivated preconception. For better or worse, the risk of people being disabled or killed in a superpowered gay-bashing is considered worse than having to put up with some social isolation for being seen as mentally ill.

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  • Dreamer,
    Thank you very much for your praise and thoughts on the story and all its parts. I'm very glad you've enjoyed it. It's comforting to know that people are picking up on a lot of the details I tried to work in. I definitely have plans to work a lot of those unfinished loose ends back in with future stories. Thank you for coming on the ride!

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  • The spell globes are like a version of what Absinth does...


    I wonder how long it will take her to figure out Poe's secret, Carson dropped a bit of a hint, and she's been around enough of the Poesies to know they aren't really crazy (well most of them)

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  • Dreamer wrote: Charlie on the campus LAN, now who could that be. Hhm, that good at shooting games, could it be Hive or is Eldritch having some fun?


    Or is it someone old enough to be a Vietnam vet? Dragonslayers don't live that long, but...

    Dreamer wrote: Huh, first time Miss Grimes has been described to have that kind of look about her.


    I noticed that too. Maybe she lost a bet? She hasn't shown up in tweed as often as Louis, Suzanna Hagarty, or Circe, but she has at least one tweed outfit.

    "She was tall, dark, elegantly slender, and quite attractive... Her large eerie heavily lidded gray eyes were set into a pale narrow angular face with a long sharp nose. Her lips were thin, but her mouth was wide, mobile and expressive."

    More Anjelica Huston than Carolyn Jones, but a student of Raven probably still wears a lot of black! (I'd recommend paying extra for the fire, electricity, and shrapnel resistance!)

    Dreamer wrote: Isn't the Gaming Club a cover for the group that protects the campus from the astral plane? At least if I recall correctly.


    Yes, it is.

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  • Regarding speculation as to Charlie the Halo champ, that's obviously Mr. Lodgeman blowing off steam. (Actually my money's on Razorback, but Lodgeman is funnier.)

    The bit with Jade not recognizing Kit's songs threw me out of the story a bit since Jade's only four years younger than me and surely her dad has blasted the radio in her presence. "Welcome to the Jungle" seems like it'd be right up his alley, and he'd have to own some AC/DC albums; after all, he's a loan shark with mob ties so you know he jerks off to "Dirty Deeds."

    The Kool Aid bit cracked me up.

    It was nice getting to see Lily a couple times, even if only briefly. It's been so long that I couldn't recall her codename off the top of my head.

    Is Kit being able to shift into a fox form something she learned offscreen, or did I just forget she can do that?

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  • Kettlekorn wrote: The bit with Jade not recognizing Kit's songs threw me out of the story a bit since Jade's only four years younger than me and surely her dad has blasted the radio in her presence. "Welcome to the Jungle" seems like it'd be right up his alley, and he'd have to own some AC/DC albums; after all, he's a loan shark with mob ties so you know he jerks off to "Dirty Deeds."

    I figured she wrote them off as "ugh, my parent's lame crap" or something.

    Kettlekorn wrote: Is Kit being able to shift into a fox form something she learned offscreen, or did I just forget she can do that?

    She did it once in Fox Tails pt1, but she hasn't used it that much in pt2 and pt3 :)

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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Acrii wrote: She also needs to get over this Poesie Prejudice she's got, especially now that several of them have reached out they way they have. I think she could really use some of their support, if she could get over her preconceptions about them.


    Bear in mind that "Poesies are Crazies" is a carefully cultivated preconception. For better or worse, the risk of people being disabled or killed in a superpowered gay-bashing is considered worse than having to put up with some social isolation for being seen as mentally ill.


    Obviously, I just think her particular reaction is... a bit extreme for "Oh I heard they cray cray".
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  • Acrii wrote: Obviously, I just think her particular reaction is... a bit extreme for "Oh I heard they cray cray".

    Keep in mind, she also made a Promise to her roommate, that she would preserve Persephone Rhys's secret that she actually is crazy. Rhys does NOT want to be in Poe because she is afraid then that people will learn about her own mental illness (and remember, crazy brain is crazy). Catherine is bound by her word, and she has promised not to tell anyone about Rhys's secret.

    Part of keeping that secret is by minimizing exposure to Poe for Rhys's sake. If they do not associate or be by people from Poe, the people from Poe cannot learn about Rhys's actual mental illness and try to make her go there. This is also an instance where the false reputation of Poe is actually harmful as well as helpful... it is in part preventing a person who needs mental help from getting it, due to negative social stigma associated with people knowing that you are getting help or have a problem.

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  • Kettlekorn wrote: Regarding speculation as to Charlie the Halo champ, that's obviously Mr. Lodgeman blowing off steam. (Actually my money's on Razorback, but Lodgeman is funnier.)

    "null0trooper' wrote: Or is it someone old enough to be a Vietnam vet? Dragonslayers don't live that long, but...


    Isn't it obvious, Gunny Bardue is "Charlie," and he is definitely old enough to be a Viet Nam vet.

    I enjoyed the story with one slight exception. When Lancer and Wallflower sat down with Kit, Hank came across a bit too much of a fanboy. While Hank is much of a hero fan, I just can't see the gushing he did. I can see the protection, and the compliments, but I think it should have been a bit more subdued.

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  • Valentine wrote: I enjoyed the story with one slight exception. When Lancer and Wallflower sat down with Kit, Hank came across a bit too much of a fanboy. While Hank is much of a hero fan, I just can't see the gushing he did. I can see the protection, and the compliments, but I think it should have been a bit more subdued.


    Thank you very much. I can see your point... originally my intention had been that Hank was making a concentrated effort to convince Kit that "her parents" were important and did good things. That they mattered. It was as much to bring Kit up out of a funk as anything else. But I can definitely see how that may have come across as too strong. That being said, I am glad you enjoyed the story :)

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