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4 years 10 months ago #1 by DanZilla
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  • Please read, comment and enjoy!!!
    4 years 10 months ago #2 by Malady
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  • So many paths crossing! And some questions answered! WOOO!

    Okay, yeah, no way Financier is not Ayla.

    That ending conversation! Brilliant!

    I guess the Unnamed AI is gonna appear in the story after this...
    4 years 10 months ago - 4 years 10 months ago #3 by Mister D
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  • Excellent story. :D

    Nice approach with Mazarin. There was a question mark about what his approach towards the Whateley Accords would be. Now we know.

    Slightly surprised that it took so long for the patent troll to be caught, as he'd been targeting Whateley students before.

    There may be another background narrative of flavour that covers the Order of the Broken Wrench's reactions to this, as there may have been students that would have previously been accepted, that didn't rate as high in their ranks, due to the patent problems.

    Also, with the potential of two patent's in Japan, it's a good bet that Laura will be tapped for membership soon. :D

    Add in the Winter break trip for Laura et al, along with the Secret Squirrels trying to operate in Japan, and there's the set-up for some great Christmas tales. :D

    Have we been told what the Gen 2 Yama Dojo are doing right now? :D

    Lots of potential plot hooks and story seeds. :D


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  • Why do I get the feeling that the "Financier" will also be in Japan?

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    4 years 10 months ago #6 by Greatdingo
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  • Very enjoyable, Laura and Hikaru are quickly becoming my favourite 2nd gen characters.

    I especially like how various threads interweave with each other, making for a fuller and more complete story.

    Also, I'm always happy to see 'Shine again, easily one of my favourite gen1 year2 characters.

    There are a few nitpicks about editing, but nothing that at all interferes with the flow of the story in any significant manner.

    Yeah, very well done, have a five star review and two thumbs up!
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  • Hopefully Hideo isn't too disappointed when he learns that his son isn't exactly Laura's type, granted, as a business person, he still would be able to achieve the same ends by getting rights to her patents.

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  • I also find it kinda ironic that Bailey is complaining about Jobe whilst working out how to cultivate and profit off of what is likely one of her creations...

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  • Thanks for the delightful romp into the tunnels.

    When it was first revealed that Laura's stuff was stolen, my instinct had been to point the finger at Jamie Howe, possibly in a Diedricks episode. I will second Mister D's comments about the demonstration of the Headmaster's dedication to The Accords.

    About mid-way through the story, I had the passing thought that someone needed to give the smurf a hug, stat. Glad to see that things worked out, even if things just got a whole lot more complicated with Jimmy and the Squirrels. Laura has a big heart, and I can only hope she doesn't get burned badly by it.

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  • Laura is like Shine - not sneaky, devious, or demanding. A genuinely nice character. And not high-powered.

    The two are actually my favorites to write for that reason.

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    4 years 10 months ago #11 by Kettlekorn
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  • Lori Sims and Laura Samuels, huh? Seems that Horace has a type.

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  • Malady wrote: Okay, yeah, no way Financier is not Ayla.


    Care to bet on that? 8-)

    Dreamer wrote: Mayra Guzman [please say she is no relation to Gabriella Guzman], Peter Campbell, I can't believe there are still students this arrogant and stupid to think they can break the Accords like this and have no repercussions. I love what Mazarin did with Mayra, no display of anger, no yelling, just calm, and explaining things to her.


    'Guzman' is the 36th most popular surname in a country 129 million people. The odds aren't very good.

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  • elrodw wrote: Laura is like Shine - not sneaky, devious, or demanding. A genuinely nice character. And not high-powered.

    The two are actually my favorites to write for that reason.


    One of these days somebody is going to make the mistake of giving Laura a pair of tight leather pants, or a white miniskirt and white heels...

    And learn that even Laura can be terrifying when pushed too far ;)
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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Malady wrote: Okay, yeah, no way Financier is not Ayla.


    Care to bet on that? 8-)

    Dreamer wrote: Mayra Guzman [please say she is no relation to Gabriella Guzman], Peter Campbell, I can't believe there are still students this arrogant and stupid to think they can break the Accords like this and have no repercussions. I love what Mazarin did with Mayra, no display of anger, no yelling, just calm, and explaining things to her.


    'Guzman' is the 36th most popular surname in a country 129 million people. The odds aren't very good.


    Reasons why Financier is likely Ayla:

    Whateley Alum
    very expensive tastes in coffee
    Appears female whilst SO recently had a baby (there are other ways of course, and other characters that are similarly equipped.)
    Age implies Gen 1 student,
    financial skills
    uses obscure literary references
    and uses quite thorough investigative resources

    now if it wasn't for #3 and we didn't already know where these characters were, that list may include Jadis and Tansy, but both of them are accounted for, but 3 combined with the rest, narrows it down

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    4 years 10 months ago #15 by elrodw
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  • mhalpern wrote:

    null0trooper wrote:

    Malady wrote: Okay, yeah, no way Financier is not Ayla.


    Care to bet on that? 8-)

    Dreamer wrote: Mayra Guzman [please say she is no relation to Gabriella Guzman], Peter Campbell, I can't believe there are still students this arrogant and stupid to think they can break the Accords like this and have no repercussions. I love what Mazarin did with Mayra, no display of anger, no yelling, just calm, and explaining things to her.


    'Guzman' is the 36th most popular surname in a country 129 million people. The odds aren't very good.


    Reasons why Financier is likely Ayla:

    Whateley Alum
    very expensive tastes in coffee
    Appears female whilst SO recently had a baby (there are other ways of course, and other characters that are similarly equipped.)
    Age implies Gen 1 student,
    financial skills
    uses obscure literary references
    and uses quite thorough investigative resources

    now if it wasn't for #3 and we didn't already know where these characters were, that list may include Jadis and Tansy, but both of them are accounted for, but 3 combined with the rest, narrows it down


    You forgot:
    - SO is likely another alum and a former Beret Mafia type (hint - accent and Gallic nose).

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  • There's also her ring tone to consider.

    Of course, all of these hints could be the authors intentionally trying to trick us into thinking Financier is Ayla so we let our guards down and don't see it coming when they kill him off in the Gen-1 timeline. Then after letting us wonder for a while if he somehow cheated death, they'll reveal that Financier is David. Only after we've accepted that will they reveal that Ayla faked his death so he could run off and join Brass Monkey.

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  • elrodw wrote:

    mhalpern wrote:

    null0trooper wrote:

    Malady wrote: Okay, yeah, no way Financier is not Ayla.


    Care to bet on that? 8-)

    Dreamer wrote: Mayra Guzman [please say she is no relation to Gabriella Guzman], Peter Campbell, I can't believe there are still students this arrogant and stupid to think they can break the Accords like this and have no repercussions. I love what Mazarin did with Mayra, no display of anger, no yelling, just calm, and explaining things to her.


    'Guzman' is the 36th most popular surname in a country 129 million people. The odds aren't very good.


    Reasons why Financier is likely Ayla:

    Whateley Alum
    very expensive tastes in coffee
    Appears female whilst SO recently had a baby (there are other ways of course, and other characters that are similarly equipped.)
    Age implies Gen 1 student,
    financial skills
    uses obscure literary references
    and uses quite thorough investigative resources

    now if it wasn't for #3 and we didn't already know where these characters were, that list may include Jadis and Tansy, but both of them are accounted for, but 3 combined with the rest, narrows it down


    You forgot:
    - SO is likely another alum and a former Beret Mafia type (hint - accent and Gallic nose).


    I still think there's a chance the Financier is Fubar in some sort of reverse scuba suit, and also he's experimenting with gender roles.

    In other news, I may have misunderstood something. The part where Tanaguchi the Elder is meeting his friends at the club. It's almost described as if he's meeting people above him in station? But doesn't he own the company?
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  • Greatdingo wrote:

    elrodw wrote:

    mhalpern wrote:

    null0trooper wrote:

    Malady wrote: Okay, yeah, no way Financier is not Ayla.


    Care to bet on that? 8-)

    Dreamer wrote: Mayra Guzman [please say she is no relation to Gabriella Guzman], Peter Campbell, I can't believe there are still students this arrogant and stupid to think they can break the Accords like this and have no repercussions. I love what Mazarin did with Mayra, no display of anger, no yelling, just calm, and explaining things to her.


    'Guzman' is the 36th most popular surname in a country 129 million people. The odds aren't very good.


    Reasons why Financier is likely Ayla:

    Whateley Alum
    very expensive tastes in coffee
    Appears female whilst SO recently had a baby (there are other ways of course, and other characters that are similarly equipped.)
    Age implies Gen 1 student,
    financial skills
    uses obscure literary references
    and uses quite thorough investigative resources

    now if it wasn't for #3 and we didn't already know where these characters were, that list may include Jadis and Tansy, but both of them are accounted for, but 3 combined with the rest, narrows it down


    You forgot:
    - SO is likely another alum and a former Beret Mafia type (hint - accent and Gallic nose).


    I still think there's a chance the Financier is Fubar in some sort of reverse scuba suit, and also he's experimenting with gender roles.

    In other news, I may have misunderstood something. The part where Tanaguchi the Elder is meeting his friends at the club. It's almost described as if he's meeting people above him in station? But doesn't he own the company?


    If it was Foob experimenting with gender roles there'd be a skirt, and he wouldn't need a suit, he can project for miles,

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  • Greatdingo wrote: I still think there's a chance the Financier is Fubar in some sort of reverse scuba suit, and also he's experimenting with gender roles.

    In other news, I may have misunderstood something. The part where Tanaguchi the Elder is meeting his friends at the club. It's almost described as if he's meeting people above him in station? But doesn't he own the company?


    Taniguchi the Elder (I like that phrase!) is meeting friends, not superiors. He owns his company; the friends he's meeting socially are his friends from college, and they work for other businesses. I probably have to get into that a bit more when Laura takes her Mark II Neural Neutralizer to Japan. But yeah, not superiors. Friends. (BTW, I got an okie-dokie from Wasamon that the cultural description was adequate.)

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  • elrodw wrote:

    Greatdingo wrote: I still think there's a chance the Financier is Fubar in some sort of reverse scuba suit, and also he's experimenting with gender roles.

    In other news, I may have misunderstood something. The part where Tanaguchi the Elder is meeting his friends at the club. It's almost described as if he's meeting people above him in station? But doesn't he own the company?


    Taniguchi the Elder (I like that phrase!) is meeting friends, not superiors. He owns his company; the friends he's meeting socially are his friends from college, and they work for other businesses. I probably have to get into that a bit more when Laura takes her Mark II Neural Neutralizer to Japan. But yeah, not superiors. Friends. (BTW, I got an okie-dokie from Wasamon that the cultural description was adequate.)


    Okay, cool, it was just the talk about how you'd socialize with your superiors in order to move up that threw me.

    Also, Fubar for "Reverse Scuba-suit" wearing Financier!
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  • Financier is Petra (I think that is her name...?) Or is it her code name? She is the one in the insanity series in gen 1... There is a reasonably good chance she could be hermaphroditic...
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  • Anne wrote: Financier is Petra (I think that is her name...?) Or is it her code name? She is the one in the insanity series in gen 1... There is a reasonably good chance she could be hermaphroditic...

    She also hasnt been shown to be good with money, you know beyond being a cyberpath, and while her "twin" Paige (Cyberkitty) is at Whateley, she isn't

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  • mhalpern wrote:

    Anne wrote: Financier is Petra (I think that is her name...?) Or is it her code name? She is the one in the insanity series in gen 1... There is a reasonably good chance she could be hermaphroditic...

    She also hasnt been shown to be good with money, you know beyond being a cyberpath, and while her "twin" Paige (Cyberkitty) is at Whateley, she isn't

    You have me there, though I was thinking of Paige, but couldn't recall her name at all. She is good with money, or at least found a way to essentially charge everyone .01 cents per transaction deposited to her account.... Paige Donner was at least being looked at by the Golden Kids... If Ayla were to have taken her under her wing, with her cyberpathic abilities... Nah she couldn't be Financier, she wouldn't have need for anyone else to help her to track down a criminal like the two-bit piece of work that was suing Whateley students for patent infringement...

    The evidence keeps mounting that the most likely candidate to be Financier is Ayla... Of course all that evidence could be a red herring intended to lead the audience to an incorrect conclusion!
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  • My own thoughts about who aside from Ayla might be Financier are David Goodkind (or whatever name she ends up using) or Fina Valocco.

    No matter who it is, they've gone down a rather dark path if it is one of the Gen 1 POV characters. I expect there is quite a story in that.

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  • Schol-R-LEA wrote: No matter who it is, they've gone down a rather dark path if it is one of the Gen 1 POV characters. I expect there is quite a story in that.

    Based on what I've written so far about Financier, The Directorate, and so on, I'm intrigued by your thinking. I'm genuinely interested in what led you to that conclusion.

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  • Schol-R-LEA wrote: My own thoughts about who aside from Ayla might be Financier are David Goodkind (or whatever name she ends up using) or Fina Valocco.

    No matter who it is, they've gone down a rather dark path if it is one of the Gen 1 POV characters. I expect there is quite a story in that.


    Not dark i dont think, the Financier is pragmatic, but Ayla has always been pragmatic, as for making an example of the patent thief, that's a matter of protecting the Neutrality, and could be separate from the directorate

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  • elrodw wrote:

    Schol-R-LEA wrote: No matter who it is, they've gone down a rather dark path if it is one of the Gen 1 POV characters. I expect there is quite a story in that.

    Based on what I've written so far about Financier, The Directorate, and so on, I'm intrigued by your thinking. I'm genuinely interested in what led you to that conclusion.

    I think that they are judging by the number of shady characters that financier seems to be involved with such as the one who forced Laura's mutation.
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  • Just a note... the reason Paige (and her sister) were considered for the Golden Kids had nothing to do with her financial talents or lack thereof, and everything to do with them being, on paper, the nieces of Willard Jennings, CEO of NEXT.

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  • mhalpern wrote:

    null0trooper wrote:

    Malady wrote: Okay, yeah, no way Financier is not Ayla.


    Reasons why Financier is likely Ayla:

    Whateley Alum
    very expensive tastes in coffee
    Appears female whilst SO recently had a baby (there are other ways of course, and other characters that are similarly equipped.)
    Age implies Gen 1 student,
    financial skills
    uses obscure literary references
    and uses quite thorough investigative resources

    now if it wasn't for #3 and we didn't already know where these characters were, that list may include Jadis and Tansy, but both of them are accounted for, but 3 combined with the rest, narrows it down


    You forgot the most compelling argument.

    'The ringtone was of an obscure, but generally reviled, rock band'


    I also have been wondering why the name change (and how Ayla swung that after we have been told so often that it is almost impossible to get your official code name on the MID changed.
    Given that the Goodkinds have all but disappeared when they were richer than most developing nations and more influential than all but a handful of countries, I can imagine there being a good reason for dropping that name.
    Why the change in code name though... For a while I wondered if Phase did essentially the same that Hekate did. Shedding his identity to break the link to a certain vengeful demon. But then I figured that this would not work because then all the other connections between Ayla and this Financier should not exist either.
    I guess this discussion belongs on the Financier character discussion though.

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  • You forgot the most compelling argument.

    'The ringtone was of an obscure, but generally reviled, rock band'


    I see her more of a Nickelback fan than Hanson or Spin Doctors.

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  • I don't think none of those three would rate as "obscure". "Reviled," possibly.

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    I also have been wondering why the name change (and how Ayla swung that after we have been told so often that it is almost impossible to get your official code name on the MID changed.
    Given that the Goodkinds have all but disappeared when they were richer than most developing nations and more influential than all but a handful of countries, I can imagine there being a good reason for dropping that name.
    Why the change in code name though... For a while I wondered if Phase did essentially the same that Hekate did. Shedding his identity to break the link to a certain vengeful demon. But then I figured that this would not work because then all the other connections between Ayla and this Financier should not exist either.
    I guess this discussion belongs on the Financier character discussion though.


    It's mentioned a few times that it isn't impossible for Whateley students to get their codename changed for a variety of reasons, until they graduate, then it gets much more difficult, however the reason is probably a bit less foreboding than that, simply because Ayla chose to go with the name that reflected most of his activities, alternatively Phase could still be on the MID, with either Financier or Phase as an official alias

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  • Another idea.

    Look at the supervillain's from Bek's stories.

    Some of them have multiple alias's, or persona's ( if you want to use the Stanislavsky-an description... :P )

    It's a possibility that Ayla may be Financier, but that's just one of his persona's, of which he has several for use in appropriate occasions.


    Another idea: As Bek's SV's tend to use this approach, and, as they all went to Whateley, is it possible that what we are seeing is a set of technique's that are taught in a second year Winter Term class?

    As the audience, we just haven't seen that class take place yet... :)


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  • Two other ideas:
    1. Ayla used that time-tested tool to grease bureaucratic machines: money. Not necessarily in anything as crass as bribes -- money buys very expensive lawyers, you know.

    2. It's not Ayla, and the canon authors have been having fun dangling red herrings in front of our noses.

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  • Sir Lee wrote: Two other ideas:
    2. It's not Ayla, and the canon authors have been having fun dangling red herrings in front of our noses.


    We would NEVER even consider doing something like that! Would we?
    :roflmao:

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  • elrodw wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: Two other ideas:
    2. It's not Ayla, and the canon authors have been having fun dangling red herrings in front of our noses.


    We would NEVER even consider doing something like that! Would we?
    :roflmao:


    There's red herrings and there's left field if we aren't past the red herring point, we are very close

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