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Question Silver Ghost, Golden Angel

9 years 4 months ago - 9 years 4 months ago #1 by Dreamer
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  • Before I post, I have to ask one thing. Were parts of this story posted in the past, because I remember reading a lot of it before.

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    Nice to hear from Evolution Rocks more, too much MCO without details on the other side, was beginning to feel like they had fallen off the face of the Whateley Universe Earth. Plus the fact they could fit in with any other group of similar individuals, guess they might have been in other stories and just blended in too well. Without having knowledge like the readers are given, what do people guess about and what do they know. I can see how the Angel not being known as a mutant would generate a lot gossip. Planet Koozbain, hehehe. So close to the Mutants Pigs in Space sketch Planet Koozebane in name, was that intentional?

    Guess the publics knowledge of mutant powers is behind what is known by the readers, the Whateley staff, and probably even the MCO. Otherwise they would think her miracles are just high-powered mutant abilities. Using one mutants actions to tar the reputation or image of another, basically politics as usual for the corrupt part of MCO.

    An Anarchist group hiding among a movement, as if mutants don't have enough problems without idiots like those stirring up trouble. If only there was some way to out them from ER! Dammed if they do, dammed if they don't with this Mills character. At least Matt is smart enough to figure out what Silver Ghost isn't adventuring and the exception against Madcap.

    So behind the scenes Herb Goodkind might have, most likely did, bailed out that creep Goldstar despite the fact he got people killed. Nice recap of events from the Silver Ghost stories, had forgotten a few of these details. Nice tactic, plus against the KoP and point out they shot a teenage girl in the back while she was working with the police under an official position.

    Insure they never get a license to operate locally, at least until the next mayor is elected. Making the public see the KoP as another tax payer's burden despite it being privately funded by a multi-millionaire, if not billionaire. No politician with an ounce of self-preservation for his career would vote in favor of it when public opinion is against it. How can people treat kids and teens that way, just ignoring their plight? It sickens me to hear about it, just knowing it happens in the real world is bad enough, to make the problem worse because they go through a change they can't control and didn't ask for is inhuman.

    Can't believe the KoP hasn't been sued by Champion and his friends for slander. And their actions in the Cloisters, if brought to the light of day, would have them brought up on so many charges they would be in legal limbo for a decade at least. The more I read about Herb Goodkind and his brother in each story, the more I'm hoping something happens to reveal the monsters they are to the world to the extent no amount of money would prevent them from spending time in jail. Or they screw up and one of the monsters they work with turns on them.

    The human ego can be a fragile thing, their plan will probably work if the MCO goes after Madcap again despite not being licensed to operate in Cincinnati. Either way, the MCO has trouble, worse if they take the bait because if Herb gives the order, as said, that is an illegal military action on American soil. The MCO would be dismantled in a week by all the government agencies and agents for such a stunt.

    And Matt is right once again, Madcap makes actual Loony Tunes character tactics look sane most of the time. Coming up with things on the fly and being just as unpredictable yourself are the only chance you have of catching her. Boy, this bunch much have a lot of experience spinning stories to their benefit and that of their causes. Nice, a way within their own charter's rules to get rid of the pests.

    Skilled and knowledgeable intruder, who knows how to react to things. Wait a minute...I feel like I've read this story before, was it posted in part or in full on the old site? If so, then I know this is a training exercise for Stacy, although the smoke bomb in the vase was genius. She waited instead of trying to tackle him, opponents will almost never do what you are expecting. The flash-bang grenade was the perfect counter to her being invisible and lying in wait, one of the oldest principles of fighting, at least what I was told, is can't see, can't fight.

    Time honored tactic for thieves, endanger something else which you know they will want to protect, thus giving them time to escape. Also works for supervillains and other criminals. Harsh lesson to learn, not everyone plays by the rules and you have to adapt quickly to changing circumstances.

    Okay, this is a universe with mutants and other superhumans, advanced technology, aliens, and the H.P. Lovecraft Mythos stuff. But a mall that didn't put up Christmas decorations until after Thanksgiving, that is too unbelievable. If only we could all be so lucky as to have stores only play instrumentals at Christmas time. It is fun to hear the lyrics and song maybe once or twice, but over and over again starts to drive you batty. And proof that just because the readers know about the characters not everyone does. Wonder how Stacy will react upon arriving at Whateley and meeting Fey, even possibly asking her about the ad with the "CGI" fairies. Hehehe.

    Poor Stacy, wonder what she will end up getting them. Calling Christmas shopping hunting season, that is as bad as the old gag in the Flintstones where the wives would run off with credit cards crying "Charge it!" Nice Princess Bride routine, got a chuckle out of it. Ouch, replaced kneecap, I know how bad that is, my mom had her surgery done in late October and is still recovering.

    Pulling the old Superman gag with Mindy, just because someone isn't there when a known superhuman shows up doesn't automatically make them that superhuman. Besides, does she have the right height and build at least to be Madcap? Poor Spence, bet he never makes a bet with Jennilee again. A gun like that, multiple non-lethal options in case the other fails, good in theory, bad if your foes get ahold of it. Ugh, Standish, shock jocks only do it for the notoriety, doesn't make them any less obnoxious.

    Poor Spence, having to put up with a friend like Nate, wonder how much ribbing he will get over this. The one friend that you wish your other friend would either try to change or give up, because of all the trouble they drag their friends into. Oh, trying to impress the older brother with crazy stunts and antics. Wonder if the story about Kirk betraying his Nate like that is true or something else happened. And great, poor Stacy is going to be dragged to parties now.

    High society of any sort, the kind of place I would avoid. Hate being made to mingle and have social anxiety myself. All these parties she is being invited to, go to the ones with friends, avoid the ones with enemies even if they are just high school enemies. Christmas time for superheroes must be a logistical nightmare sometimes, with all their scheduled parties and stuff with family and friends in civilian identity, then even more as their superhero selves.

    Silver is being smart when dealing with Goldstar, let him dig his own grave so to speak, if he decides to badmouth her after her just agreed with him. And Goldstar puts his foot in his mouth, little bigot is going to get thrown off the team if he doesn't drop the attitude. And no one really wants Goldstar for their events, puffed up goon deserves it.

    A theft with no obvious thing stolen, wonder who did that. Possibly a set-up by H1!, or is it Mills trying to stir up trouble? Guess I have to keep reading to find out. Yeah, that would seem like the kind of stunt Madcap would pull. Although a teenage girl out that late, even Madcap needs her beauty sleep. Avoids the security cameras but leaves behind a spray paint tag, too smart and well thought out to be Madcap. She would have purposefully gotten into the camera's line of sight, wanting to be seen. And SG figured out as well, it was an attempted frame-up by someone who doesn't know Madcap that well. She's too zany to not have fun while committing a crime.

    Crud, with what SG said about Madcap, this smells like an MCO or KoP set-up to lure out Madcap. At least they are being smart about this, keeping it quiet to lure out the perp. Just don't let the press have even the slightest whiff of this story or no matter what he police say one or more of them will "accidently" run it. Perfect reaction from the ER! first meeting her, what you would expect in the real world even if superhumans were shown on the news all the time. And how they think others would react, people react with fear to things they don't understand. Making them see the human side of SG and not the mutant is a great idea, maybe people will start to listen.

    And at Mrs. Harding's party, Stacy learns a valuable lesson about being a girl, other girl will try to tear you down sometimes just because they are jealous. A vest...out of wrapping paper...Stacy has more restraint than I, I would have been laughing my head off at seeing that. All that small talk...Stacy must have an iron will not to run screaming from all that inane chatter and passes at her.

    Oooo, one of the worst kind of criminals for superheroes to deal with, a smart one who plans things out. Skill and magic, hope the police realize Officer on Watch never had a chance of seeing through the subterfuge. Complex mechanical locks that can thwart magic and wards through the evidence locker, they must deal with more magic wielders than he we expecting. And powerful wards at that, either that or his magic isn't as powerful as I first suspected.

    Even if you have magic, using it for trivial things is a waste for anyone who isn't at least a Wiz-4 mutant. Ack! Nooooo! Those kids at the party were not the whiners, spare Stacy meeting any of those. She might just snap and slap the idiot and berate them for complaining about being given everything they ask for. I know I would have at that age. You would have to pay me 1 mil a week to put up with a whiner like she is describing. Even then that might not be enough if they become more obnoxious.

    And the fact sets in and leads to a panic attack. At least Karen is there for her, if anyone ever harms Karen I could see Stacy going dark very fast.

    "Do what you think is right. But don't think that you're going to solve all the problems of the world. 'Cause the world just doesn't work that way."

    Yeah, thinking you can solve even all the problems of your friends and family could end up driving you crazy, let alone taking on all the world's problems.

    Nice use of Karen to explain the major troupe seen in most superhero universes of them not making major changes. Because they are complex issues with a lot going on and simple solutions never work out. Even the Authority had trouble with this one. Seeing only excellent or good examples wouldn't show you why the horrible examples are horrible to start with.

    Herb met his match in the Montessori principal, try anything to bad mouth her and he will be in trouble. A lot of powerful families back that school. Art lives in the modern age, even back in 2006, and doesn't know what YouTube is or what the term viral for a video means, yet he thinks he can out PR the people behind SG. Plus thinks it is just a fad and will go away. As Bugs Bunny would say, what a maroon. Plus plotting to have troops out at random locations and just reacting to a clear and present danger, also knocking out SG or making her look incompetent. This is going to backfire on them big time, I can't wait to see the fallout.

    Hehehe, Lauren needs to learn you are never too old to enjoy decorating a Christmas tree. Poor Stacy, she has to realize there are people with a lot more experience "smoozing" people than her. Even with her powers it would take a couple decades to even start to catch up. Uh oh, why would Mrs. Chase want to know who she is? Is it something bad, blackmail material, or just good intentions with a noisy personality. Swashbuckler to the rescue, having a superhero good at disguises as a friend is a good thing.

    Nice analogy for the wordplay between Swashbuckler and Mrs. Chase. If he ever gives up the superhero biz, he should go into acting. And she left with an excuse, this match goes to Swashbuckler. And with plans for her to go to Whateley, dating someone local would be painful to her and him, as she would be gone a good chunk of the year for 4 years.

    Another mysterious crime with no apparent motive or item stolen at first for us dear readers. By the time they catch this crook, Silver Ghost is going to want to have a long chat with them about why they did it. Parents stopping a foolish stunt by the old pulling the ear, a classic. And the night is made painful by Goldstar, that guy seriously needs to be taught a lesson about being a bigot, especially when it involves children or teens. Okay, didn't see Goldstar being Nate's brother Kirk coming. Now I have to know what the falling out between them was over.

    He stole a dynamorph from his own brother and used it to become a "superhero", with the excuse it was dangerous and he was protecting him. What a creep. And the bigot pulls the mutant card as a threat, big surprise. Idiot is trying to blackmail her without thinking of the consequences of his actions, as Stacy points out. If there is a way to remove a dynamorph without killing the host or dynamorph, I say Goldstar be the first one forced to.

    Thank you, Cincinnati PD for bailing her out of that situation, I think Goldstar would have tried to call her "bluff" and ended up serving time in jail, but also endangering her and everyone she cares about. Nice magic mirror portal, makes you wonder what other "toys" she has we haven't seen yet. By now it is predictable in the genre that cops not used to dealing with superhumans will overreact unless restrained by more experienced officers. Still fun to watch though, almost expect him to pee his pants from fear.

    Not only is the person trying to set off Madcap trying to frame her badly, they are a theme-based criminal. If anyone makes a reference to Silver Ghost being like Batman, she will probably either feel complimented or scream in frustration. And now the other thief at the police station, just great, Stacy isn't going to get much sleep tonight unless she rest in until after noon.

    And points to the Green Witch, Silver Ghost is being reckless without knowing what she is up against. This isn't Madcap, the person in their might very well use lethal force or do something horrible to her with their magic. Plus the whole special license being revoked would just add fuel to the fire. Shoot, forgot that fact about Stacy, she is afraid of being taken away from her new home and family and being sent off to Whateley, believing it will prove she is nothing but a burden. She needs to see a councilor already, with all the issues she has.

    Sneaks in only to be taken down by the guy's familiar, great. And the stupid thing was able to detect her while she was invisible too. If she was in an MMORPG, she would be yelling at the Sys Admin right then "Stop nerfing my invisibility!" Sorry, couldn't resist. Cardsharp, not a bad name for a magic user who seems to specialize in using playing cards as his magical tools. Nice magic fight, I would just sit back and watch too, don't want to tick off either side. And I'm wondering if she did step on the cat's tail as well now.

    3 tons of force and couldn't rip the thing off, dang, that is a well-built dingus. Too many tamper-traps, although I guess in their world it pays to be paranoid. And the villain actually planned his escape, those are the dangerous ones to deal with. Smart, knows how to plan things out, has various resources but tries not to rely too much on any one. Great, he is a magic-using Batman thief.

    Ouch, even worse than I thought, a criminal Indiana Jones is scary, just think of all the artifacts he already has available to use. Goldstar is going to keep putting his foot in his mouth, he must like the taste of shoe. I've really overestimated how much the rest of the world beyond Whateley knows about stuff we as the readers have been told about. I would have thought Emperor Wilkins and Karadonia would be international news by now and more well known.

    With the tools involved and the planning, Stacy has a good idea with bringing in back-up in case anyone else but Madcap shows up. We have no idea what they are capable of in a fight yet. I hate themed crimes, especially this one. Hearing that song more than once a year is bad enough, crimes based on them make me want to hit my head into my desk. If Goldstar shows up at the museum, the place will suffer a lot more damage than it would have otherwise.

    When they find out the leak who told Rick Standish about the crime, they will be charged with interfering with a police investigation at the least. Nice to see Jimenez again, even if it is only when trouble is happening. And if Goldstar did tell Standish, that would probably go against his parole and off to jail he goes. And the thief ups the ante, though no one will fall for a grown woman trying to pretend to be Madcap.

    A tool to make her stand out when invisible, we have a villain who learns. Stacy is tapping into her PSI part of her PDP without even realizing it, nice. Why did Goldstar come, this is going to be bad and he is going to try and blame it on Silver Ghost for everything that goes wrong, even his own mistakes. Ouch, don't like the guy but that has to hurt, must be Exemplar 5 with the kind of power she is throwing around. And the press is there, so no helping out without being deputized like Jimenez suggest.

    Madcap as a rip off of the Angel of Hell's Kitchen and Sailor Moon at the same time, she snapped and gone nuttier. Please don't let her end up like Jackrabbit. Stacy saves her and the former Madcap is so delusional that she believe this woman actually is the real Madcap I bet. And I was right, she has snapped and now believes she is Silver Ghost best friend and Golden Angel. She needs serious help, the sooner the better.

    And the insanity continues, original Madcap trying to escape while being fought over, throw into the mix KoP who seem to think they are the law and can do what they want with impunity, now that is one volatile mix. And in front of the press no less they try to intimidate and threaten Silver Ghost, who states she is with the police and backed up by Jimenez. If they try anythng it is spell the beginning of the end of the KoP and Herb Goodkind.

    Stacy really is showing how smart she is, making anyone who argues otherwise look like a fool, by capturing Madcap without turning to violence. Once the others find out that Goldstar's big mouth allowed Madcap to get away, he is so off the team it isn't funny. And this feels like the 1st part of a multi-part story, please say it is. :)

    Thank You for story comments appreciated and help me know me they are being read and liked. :-) Note: My story comments can't nor are trying to replace reading the stories, simply my way of enjoying them and letting the authors know I enjoy them.
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    9 years 4 months ago #2 by Valentine
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  • Part of it went up on Buck and Bonnie, just before it was hacked.

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    9 years 4 months ago #3 by Nagrij
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  • I'm laughing so hard right now....

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    9 years 4 months ago #4 by Domoviye
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  • That was a good story.
    REALLY don't like Goldstar right now.
    And like Dreamer I liked seeing more of Evolution Rocks!
    9 years 4 months ago #5 by Isodecan
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  • I’m fairly sure that

    “You said that Nate used to hero worship his brother Nate,” Stacy said. “What happened?”

    should be “You said that Nate used to hero worship his brother Kirk,”

    I'm looking forward to the next story in the ongoing saga of the Silver Ghost, although it is looking like she won't get to Whateley until next fall. Or possibly she will never get to Whateley, as having a character who obviously should go to Whateley who never manages to get there for one reason or another could be fun.
    9 years 4 months ago #6 by Phoenix Spiritus
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  • There also seems to be a lot of 'Nate' instead of 'Kirk' when Stacy is talking to Kirk and deducing his backstory at the party too.
    9 years 4 months ago #7 by konzill
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  • Is there a Silver Linings chapter 2 part 2 out there somewhere? Because if there is I seem to have missed it before. Getting to this story.
    9 years 4 months ago #8 by E M Pisek
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  • If there is, it may be on the old forums which is not accessible.

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  • I've just finished reading the intial ER! section (as it's currently 11pm here I'll be continuing the tale tomorrow) - it's interesting to see they're an umbrella group for a whole bunch of different organisations with different pro-mutant agendas, which probably explains why they have very ltitle political clout (they can never agree on anything!)

    “And, at the very least, the word about those poor kids in the Cloisters will get out,” Courtney sighed. “I mean… they don’t have a chance! I just wish that we could somehow… y’know… open a school or something for them, give them a fighting chance!”

    “Please!” Lisa snorted. “A school for mutants? Marvel Comics would SUE!”


    If only they knew that (a) such a school did exist, and (b) the consortium which launched a successful takeover bid for Marvel earlier in the year includes a couple of students... :)

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    9 years 4 months ago #11 by Valentine
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  • mittfh wrote: I've just finished reading the intial ER! section (as it's currently 11pm here I'll be continuing the tale tomorrow) - it's interesting to see they're an umbrella group for a whole bunch of different organisations with different pro-mutant agendas, which probably explains why they have very ltitle political clout (they can never agree on anything!)

    “And, at the very least, the word about those poor kids in the Cloisters will get out,” Courtney sighed. “I mean… they don’t have a chance! I just wish that we could somehow… y’know… open a school or something for them, give them a fighting chance!”

    “Please!” Lisa snorted. “A school for mutants? Marvel Comics would SUE!”


    If only they knew that (a) such a school did exist, and (b) the consortium which launched a successful takeover bid for Marvel earlier in the year includes a couple of students... :)


    The Marvel thing is in January, so it is still in the planning stages.

    I was wondering who Kirk would be, but I wasn't expecting Iron Pyrite Star.

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  • Malady wrote:

    Ib12us wrote: If there is, it may be on the old forums which is not accessible.


    Are you talking about this? (Silver Linings Chapter 2: Parts 2-9 )


    Yes thanks, thats the one. I found it a bit after posting but didn't have time to update my post. I was looking at the old site, and it cut out after Chapter 2 part 1, for some reason I didn't think that it would be up on here yet.
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  • konzill wrote:

    Malady wrote:

    Ib12us wrote: If there is, it may be on the old forums which is not accessible.


    Are you talking about this? (Silver Linings Chapter 2: Parts 2-9 )


    Yes thanks, thats the one. I found it a bit after posting but didn't have time to update my post. I was looking at the old site, and it cut out after Chapter 2 part 1, for some reason I didn't think that it would be up on here yet.


    It was one of the ones I posted first because it wasn't available elsewhere, and I knew Bek had this story in the works.

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  • Still, I wish Bek had took a few minutes to redo the part/chapter numbering for "Silver Linings," which is rather confusing. I mean, it's not even clear how to count the parts after Chapter 2.1 -- you counted 8 parts because there were 8 forum postings, I counted 5 parts because there were 5 batches of postings (the forum software limited the length of the posts, so they had to be split up).

    My personal suggestion would be to split it into two stories, possibly "Silver Linings" and "Enter the Madcap" -- while the earlier chapters had a sort of villain-of-the-week feel, when Madcap entered the scene the narrative took a more long-term approach. There was even at some point an "Enter the Madcap" subtitle on Chapter 2, Part 2... oh, and consider "parts" by posting dates.

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  • Sir Lee wrote: Still, I wish Bek had took a few minutes to redo the part/chapter numbering for "Silver Linings," which is rather confusing. I mean, it's not even clear how to count the parts after Chapter 2.1 -- you counted 8 parts because there were 8 forum postings, I counted 5 parts because there were 5 batches of postings (the forum software limited the length of the posts, so they had to be split up).

    My personal suggestion would be to split it into two stories, possibly "Silver Linings" and "Enter the Madcap" -- while the earlier chapters had a sort of villain-of-the-week feel, when Madcap entered the scene the narrative took a more long-term approach. There was even at some point an "Enter the Madcap" subtitle on Chapter 2, Part 2... oh, and consider "parts" by posting dates.


    Without further instruction from Bek, I am not willing to change her titles or the organization. The numbering of Chapter 2 parts 2+ isn't all that important as it is in one posting.

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  • For clarity I have treated the Silver Ghost stories in my personal archive as three separate stories and have labelled them as follows:-

    Stacy 1 = All of Chapter 1.
    Stacy 2 = All of Chapter 2 - Which includes those parts that were only posted in the 'Authors Corner'.
    Stacy 3 = The new story, 'Silver Ghost, Golden Angel' as just posted here. Any further material will labelled to fit in with this scheme.

    I keep all my Whateley material in a dedicated folder and I like to group stories either by the Author or the lead character as I find it easier to locate a particular story later if I want to re-read it. I also try to separate by Canon, Fan-Fic, Library etc so I can, in theory at least, find anything quite quickly. Of course this only works if I adapt the File name at the time that I save it - Something I've learnt to do the hard way over the years and I put into effect shortly after finding Whateley. Sadly some of my other story site folders are not well indexed at all!

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  • Sir Lee wrote: Still, I wish Bek had took a few minutes to redo the part/chapter numbering for "Silver Linings," which is rather confusing. I mean, it's not even clear how to count the parts after Chapter 2.1 -- you counted 8 parts because there were 8 forum postings, I counted 5 parts because there were 5 batches of postings (the forum software limited the length of the posts, so they had to be split up).

    My personal suggestion would be to split it into two stories, possibly "Silver Linings" and "Enter the Madcap" -- while the earlier chapters had a sort of villain-of-the-week feel, when Madcap entered the scene the narrative took a more long-term approach. There was even at some point an "Enter the Madcap" subtitle on Chapter 2, Part 2... oh, and consider "parts" by posting dates.


    Yes, I'm hoping at some point Bek will feel comfortable with with site's CMS and will do some editing on the Silver Linings and Nacht stuff that was posted in the forums and make sure everything is to her satisfaction... but I'm not comfortable rewriting/structuring it for her.

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  • I managed to get the reading for this one in quite early, as I was passing time by waiting for a concert to start (Rise Against, if you must know). Bloody happy to see another story from Bek, especially as it brings all the expected dry wit and mocking humour - in the opening, no less!

    I just wonder if there's an actual story involving this "Planet Koozbain", whether it be past, present or future. :P

    I do like the setup for the cluster!@#$ of events from the different groups pushing their own agendas and manipulating events, on top of the known issues such as Goldstar and Madcap. Speaking of Goldstar... Please let him get his comeuppance, the jerk?

    Not sure what to make of Madcap's latest bid, but it isn't good news for Stacy, as per usual.

    Looking forward to more, when it comes. :P

    Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.
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  • Ametros wrote: Not sure what to make of Madcap's latest bid, but it isn't good news for Stacy, as per usual.


    Actually, Madcap's new "bright idea" doesn't surprise me - it feels like a logical progression of her Silver Ghost fixation into something more akin to hero worship.

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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote:

    Ametros wrote: Not sure what to make of Madcap's latest bid, but it isn't good news for Stacy, as per usual.


    Actually, Madcap's new "bright idea" doesn't surprise me - it feels like a logical progression of her Silver Ghost fixation into something more akin to hero worship.


    Plus she swore on her immortal soul "No more supervillaining."

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  • Ametros wrote: Speaking of Goldstar... Please let him get his comeuppance, the jerk?

    It occurred to me that it would be amusing if Stacy's original reaction to finding out that Nate wasn't always the golden kid he now appears to be was correct and if he, his sister and (perhaps most importantly, Kirk) were in point of fact all mutants; Exemplar-1's or 2's in fact.
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  • Oh yeah, Nate has a sister. I forgot and was thinking both his siblings were brothers. Well then, obviously the sister is Madcap AKA Golden Angel. The question is, what name will Nate choose when he inevitably becomes a super? Golden Gymnast? Goldtrapeze? Goldancer?

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  • Madcap being Goldstar's sister would be interesting. Though he if she was he should really have recognised her at one of the fights so far. That said I still don't know wheather this should end in comedy or tragedy. The releaent endings being:
    1. Madcap and Silver ghost end up rooming together at Whateley
    2. Goldstars interference gets Madcap killed, revealing that she is his sister woûld be a very effective twist on this one.

    On other speculation the fatct that Nate, Spencer and Dylan managed to actual\y capture. A dynamorph suggest that at least one of them is a mutant. Either a devisor, though this seems unlikely or a probability warper. Spences ability for mixing it up in supers fights without getting hurt could be explained by this.
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  • konzill wrote: Madcap being Goldstar's sister would be interesting. Though he if she was he should really have recognised her at one of the fights so far. That said I still don't know wheather this should end in comedy or tragedy. The releaent endings being:

    1. Madcap and Silver ghost end up rooming together at Whateley
    2. Goldstars interference gets Madcap killed, revealing that she is his sister woûld be a very effective twist on this one.

    On other speculation the fatct that Nate, Spencer and Dylan managed to actual\y capture. A dynamorph suggest that at least one of them is a mutant. Either a devisor, though this seems unlikely or a probability warper. Spences ability for mixing it up in supers fights without getting hurt could be explained by this.


    Letting Madcap into Whateley would be a terrible idea. An odds mangler and power-item energizer with zero common sense on a campus filled with devisors, mages, and other odds manglers? The campus would be a smoking hole in the ground in a week.

    There are plenty of sources of super-science other than mutants in the WU. Since my impression was that dynamorph holders are rarely mutants, they must be capturable without using devises.


    I'm skeptical of Madcap being Nate and Goldstar's sister, because if she is then it means that people actually know her. In theory, I suppose that her parents could have hidden her away when she manifested (and her manifestation changed her personality enough that anyone who knew her before doesn't recognize Madcap), but if that was the case, how is she getting out to wreak havoc? If she's not being hidden away, then either:

    a) She has a completely different personality in her secret identity (which I find unlikely)
    b) The only people she has contact with are so oblivious to the outside world that they haven't heard of Madcap (which I find sad)
    c) She's being managed - that is, kept by someone who knows of her powers, but is deliberately letting her cause trouble for their own ends (which I find worrisome)
    d) Her odds mangling is concealing her identity with aggressively good luck (which I find terrifying)

    Incidentally, if she's being managed then she's less likely to be an odds mangler - instead her "good luck" could be coming from her manager, who's using TK or something to help her out. Although why someone would be wasting the time and energy required for that level of aid on someone like Madcap is beyond me.

    I suppose that she could live far enough away from Cincinnati that Madcap's antics don't reach the local news, but Madcap's doing this primarily for the attention, so choosing to play to somebody else's news cycle seems odd, and would require more forethought than I give Madcap credit for. If she's that thoughtful, then she's capable of not acting like Madcap, which goes back to a)

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    9 years 4 months ago - 9 years 4 months ago #25 by E M Pisek
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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote:

    konzill wrote: Madcap being Goldstar's sister would be interesting. Though he if she was he should really have recognised her at one of the fights so far. That said I still don't know wheather this should end in comedy or tragedy. The releaent endings being:

    1. Madcap and Silver ghost end up rooming together at Whateley
    2. Goldstars interference gets Madcap killed, revealing that she is his sister woûld be a very effective twist on this one.

    On other speculation the fatct that Nate, Spencer and Dylan managed to actual\y capture. A dynamorph suggest that at least one of them is a mutant. Either a devisor, though this seems unlikely or a probability warper. Spences ability for mixing it up in supers fights without getting hurt could be explained by this.


    Letting Madcap into Whateley would be a terrible idea. An odds mangler and power-item energizer with zero common sense on a campus filled with devisors, mages, and other odds manglers? The campus would be a smoking hole in the ground in a week.

    There are plenty of sources of super-science other than mutants in the WU. Since my impression was that dynamorph holders are rarely mutants, they must be capturable without using devises.


    I'm skeptical of Madcap being Nate and Goldstar's sister, because if she is then it means that people actually know her. In theory, I suppose that her parents could have hidden her away when she manifested (and her manifestation changed her personality enough that anyone who knew her before doesn't recognize Madcap), but if that was the case, how is she getting out to wreak havoc? If she's not being hidden away, then either:

    a) She has a completely different personality in her secret identity (which I find unlikely)
    b) The only people she has contact with are so oblivious to the outside world that they haven't heard of Madcap (which I find sad)
    c) She's being managed - that is, kept by someone who knows of her powers, but is deliberately letting her cause trouble for their own ends (which I find worrisome)
    d) Her odds mangling is concealing her identity with aggressively good luck (which I find terrifying)

    Incidentally, if she's being managed then she's less likely to be an odds mangler - instead her "good luck" could be coming from her manager, who's using TK or something to help her out. Although why someone would be wasting the time and energy required for that level of aid on someone like Madcap is beyond me.

    I suppose that she could live far enough away from Cincinnati that Madcap's antics don't reach the local news, but Madcap's doing this primarily for the attention, so choosing to play to somebody else's news cycle seems odd, and would require more forethought than I give Madcap credit for. If she's that thoughtful, then she's capable of not acting like Madcap, which goes back to a)


    You know what worries me? I actually followed that logic. :S :P :whistle:

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  • She will probably get captured and be taken away by Swashbuckler to train and make less of a loose cannon. He is looking for a student and he said that he couldn't help Stacy much as he doesn't know how to effectively use her powers, and he was looking for a tougher challenge.
    With Madcaps powers seeming to be luck, powering up gadgets and the force balls, she seems to be mostly within his area of expertise.
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  • Domoviye wrote: She will probably get captured and be taken away by Swashbuckler to train and make less of a loose cannon. He is looking for a student and he said that he couldn't help Stacy much as he doesn't know how to effectively use her powers, and he was looking for a tougher challenge.
    With Madcaps powers seeming to be luck, powering up gadgets and the force balls, she seems to be mostly within his area of expertise.


    That would work. Though My initial pick was that he would be the one to kick some sense into Goldstar, assuming he actually has an ephipany at some point and dosn't completely miss the oportunity. One possible arc for him is to go from goon to guilt ridden hero, either that or he ends up back in jail.
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  • It can't be Nate and Kirk/Pyritestar's sister, because she's described as being Nate's OLDER sister who had ALREADY gone through the "Exemplar-style growing spurt" that her brothers went through.

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  • Madcap is unlikely to go to Whateley for reasons other than everyone wanting to empower there items and being an odds mangler. Okay the reason isn't so different from being an odds mangler because it has to do with it but it is a different reason.

    Logistics. It has been stated in story that the faculty does not like having more than one odds mangler per cottage, for obvious reasons. Here's the thing, they currently have hit their one per cottage limit (for the female/coed cottages anyway) and none of them are graduating any time soon.

    Poe has Risk who is a freshman right now and would only be a sophomore by the time that madcap got there.
    Whitman has Clover I believe who is currently not even a freshman but will be soon.
    Hawthorne has one though I don't remember the name. I also don't know the year he or she is in so we could have madcap in Hawthorne… no.
    Melville has hazard, I think, I'm not actually sure.
    … I can't remember the name of the last cottage but that is the one where Murphy is so that is the last available female accepting cottage.

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  • I thought Madcap being an odds mangler was shut down in story, it wasn't that she was an odds mangler, it's was a combination of being so bad she had no plans herself, so you couldn't plan against her, and that as a kid everyone was going easy on her as they didn't want to hurt her?
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  • Whitman has Murphy,
    Clover is in Dickinson.
    They might try sticking Madcap in Melville, Hazard will be a Junior in Fall 2007, so there will be a bit of space between the two of them.
    The thing is we don't know what her powers are. She's probably a mutant, but is the ball she creates a mutant power or just a power stone, or something else she found. Her only power could be powering up devises.
    We really don't know, except that she denies being a mutant.
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  • Murphy is in Whitman with Kismet. Clover is actually in Dickinson (the one whose name you forgot). Hazard is indeed in Melville, and Risk is in Poe. And unless there are major changes to Sphere and Absinthe when they get converted to cannon, Poe is getting another odds mangler next year.


    There isn't an odds mangler in Hawthorne, but there never will be - there are too many delicate systems there that would not tolerate the long term presence of any sort of unusual luck.

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  • Clover - Dickinson
    Murphy - Whitman
    Hazard - Melville
    Kismet - Whitman
    Risk - Poe
    Reverb - Whitman

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  • Malady wrote:

    Arcanist Lupus wrote: Sphere


    What is this 'Sphere' you speak of?


    Sphere is a Who, not a What.

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  • Valentine wrote:

    Malady wrote:

    Arcanist Lupus wrote: Sphere


    What is this 'Sphere' you speak of?


    Sphere is a Who, not a What.

    Round and Round


    Link needs fixing...
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  • Here's the thing... Bek has been deliberately cagy with the powers of several of her newer creations. There was quite a lot of debate in the old forums attempting to figure out what exactly are Silver Ghost's powers; the same applies to Madcap/Golden Angel. And the same applies to Evan from the "Loose Cannons" team, sorta.

    I think that we might expect an original twist on the power combo for all three of them... when Bek finally deigns to spell them out. Think how many characters would be really hard to figure out if the author had decided not to spell it out for the readers. Jade, for starters. Chaka. Thuban. Possibly my own creation, Mezzo. The list goes on.

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  • Wow Whitman is a terrible place to live.Also anyone else notice that there is only one male odds mangler.

    Back on topic can you imagine Sphere and Madcap in a fight? Pinball could join in to for added chaos.

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  • Given Madcap seems to have a knack for making supposedly burned out / broken equipment work, that power might be her main power - possibly a unique variation-on-a-theme of the Devisor power, possibly something else.

    Meanwhile, Goldstar continues to act as arrogant as he presumably was before his arrest a few years back - and given the entire last scene was being recorded by the media (not all of whom would have retrained their cameras on Violet and Red Thunder, who'd have seen live what happened), walking out of a melee and encouraging Madcap Prime to take off when Silver had calmly intercepted and captured her without any fuss isn't going to do his reputation any good. If he continues with those kind of antics, it won't be long before even Tawny votes to officially boot him off the team - especially since his instability, jealously and prejudice are getting in the way of his job.

    As for Madcap's costume and name change, evidently she's decided to try another approach at popularity (one that's likely to continue through the remaining installments of this seasonal adventure given its title)...

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  • Jarjaross wrote: Wow Whitman is a terrible place to live.Also anyone else notice that there is only one male odds mangler.

    Back on topic can you imagine Sphere and Madcap in a fight? Pinball could join in to for added chaos.

    I did notice that. Maybe odds mangling is tied to being attracted to guys? :D


    Yeah, throw in Wallflower as well to complete the set. Actually, that would make a hilarious and probably fairly effective training team (assuming Madcap could be made more sane) Those pinball shields are pretty powerful.

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  • I'm currently rereading the Silver Ghost stories and have a question.

    If Stacy was never charged with anything, what is this talk of her having a parole officer?

    Maybe I just haven't gotten to that part yet.
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  • The only time I remember talk of a parole officer is with Goldstar, and that was a mistake on the idiots part.
    If she steps out of line the deal with the prosecutor is off and she could be charged with the crimes she did in the past, but that's it.
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  • Good point, Sir Lee. Madcap has been described as scrawny at least twice.

    Arcanist Lupus wrote: If she's not being hidden away, then either:

    a) She has a completely different personality in her secret identity (which I find unlikely)
    b) The only people she has contact with are so oblivious to the outside world that they haven't heard of Madcap (which I find sad)
    c) She's being managed - that is, kept by someone who knows of her powers, but is deliberately letting her cause trouble for their own ends (which I find worrisome)
    d) Her odds mangling is concealing her identity with aggressively good luck (which I find terrifying)


    Actually, having a different personality isn't that unlikely. A lot of people naturally behave differently around their family than they do when away from their family, and wearing a costume to shield your identity can exacerbate this by lowering inhibitions. It could be that in her home life Madcap tends to be more mousy (though still a ditz), and her loud attention-seeking Madcap persona is an outlet.

    There's also refuge in audacity to consider -- nobody expects their children, siblings, or friends to secretly be supers. Hints that they might be will often get rejected out of hand.

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  • OK, Annoying Nitpicking time:

    I was rereading Silver Linings late last night and I figured that there are so many characters that I needed a scorecard or six. Perfect job for the wiki, right?

    So I started a Wickham Family page, and even with the main branch (the Grandmothers) I ran into two problems right off the bat (damn sports metaphors referring to a sport I don't really understand... I'm probably using them wrong):

    - The third "Grandmother" suddenly change names from Esther to Sadie at the point of her death with no explanation;
    - There's a ref in "Silver Ghost, Golden Angel" to "Granny Maribel" having a collection of Currier & Ives prints. Except the only Maribel we know from "Silver Linings" is Karen's MOTHER, who ran away from the family and never was in the position for acquiring stuff for the household.

    There are two sorts of solutions for the problems above:
    1. Word of God from Bek, possibly involving fixes to the original story(es).
    2. Fan theory, which may or may not be endorsed by Bek.

    Since Solution 1 is out of my reach, let me try my hand at fan theories:
    The first is rather simple. She was named Sadie Esther Wickham and in life preferred to use her middle name, but her descendants refer to her by her first name.
    The second is to remember that in three occasions, the succession leapt one generation -- going from grandmother to granddaughter instead of from mother to daughter.
    The first one (Prudence to Esther) is of no use, since it happened before Currier and Ives were even established.
    The third one (Belinda to Karen) is also of no use, because even if there is a Maribel, she won't solve anything for the reasons described above.
    But the second one (Jezebel to Belinda)... might work:

    Let's postulate that Jezebel's daughter and Belinda's mother was also named Maribel, and Karen's mother was named after her.

    We do know that Jezebel was already in her late fifties when she inherited, and that she kept the reins for about thirty-five years before kicking the bucket in 1929. So Isobel died around 1896, meaning that Jezebel was born around 1840.

    People didn't wait that long to have children back then, so we can guesstimate the elder Maribel's date of birth around 1860 (death is necessarily sometime before 1929). Meaning that she was probably alive for most of the time Currier and Ives was active, and, as a non-working descendant of a very rich family, probably indulged in hobbies -- like collecting art prints.

    So that could very well be the "Granny Maribel" Karen mentioned.

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  • Oh... and another Annoying Nitpick moment:

    In "Silver Linings", it is said that the Legacy was started in the late 1600s... and that Prudence, the second generation, faced witch persecution from James I. The problem is that James I's reign was in the early 1600s, that is, about a hundred years before Prudence's time.

    My first thought was that Bek had mistyped "1600s" when he meant "Sixteenth Century" -- an easy mistake to make -- but that added a hundred years to the timeline, at a time when the Grandmothers didn't have yet access to the life-extending properties of the Pool of Vigor.

    So my take is: the date is correct, the king is wrong. I don't know enough about English and American History to tell if Puritans fleeing to Holland before emigrating to America were still a thing around 1700, though.

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  • Sir Lee wrote: Oh... and another Annoying Nitpick moment:

    In "Silver Linings", it is said that the Legacy was started in the late 1600s... and that Prudence, the second generation, faced witch persecution from James I. The problem is that James I's reign was in the early 1600s, that is, about a hundred years before Prudence's time.

    My first thought was that Bek had mistyped "1600s" when he meant "Sixteenth Century" -- an easy mistake to make -- but that added a hundred years to the timeline, at a time when the Grandmothers didn't have yet access to the life-extending properties of the Pool of Vigor.

    So my take is: the date is correct, the king is wrong. I don't know enough about English and American History to tell if Puritans fleeing to Holland before emigrating to America were still a thing around 1700, though.


    Whateley-verse history is just weird like that, perhaps?
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  • The puritans only needed to flee Queen Mary (exactly one short lived Queen), Queen Elizabeth the First (her sister and Heir) was Protestant and went back to persecuting the Catholics, she introduced public schooling to England and made sure all the children grew up Protestant, while also killing off any left over pesky Catholics, after that it was official English polocy to expand the colonies to increase the tax base.
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  • Since it takes a mommy Wickham, and unnamed daddy. It is possible that Granny Maribel was Karen's paternal grandmother.

    PS you got the baseball metaphor right.

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  • Also, just because she wasn't a Wickham Legacy doesn't mean she didn't collect things, I mean even a middle class housewife could collect prints, and if the prints are old enough and the collection complete enough relatively cheaply collected items slowly gathered over many years could be relatively valuable multiple generations later, or even just sentimentally valuable to decendants.
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  • every silver linings story by Bek has been posted on the new website under "canon".

    go to the oldest canon stories posted on the new website and you will find the multiple postings of silver lining part 2

    it is a great story involving hallowe'en in Cincinati and spooky stuff

    :)
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  • Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Also, just because she wasn't a Wickham Legacy doesn't mean she didn't collect things, I mean even a middle class housewife could collect prints, and if the prints are old enough and the collection complete enough relatively cheaply collected items slowly gathered over many years could be relatively valuable multiple generations later, or even just sentimentally valuable to decendants.


    My objection to "Granny Maribel" not being Karen's mother was not so much about her not being the legacy, but about her not being Karen's grandmother.

    As for Granny Maribel being a paternal-line grandmother at some point in the tree, it's certainly possible. I didn't consider it because... well, because it seems that Karen tends to use "granny" to refer to the Legacy lineage. But it sure is a good possibility. As long as she's not supposed to be from Karen's father's side, because it's sort of an unusual name and it looks a bit unlikely for Karen to have Maribel-named ancestors on both sides.

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  • Or Granny Maribel could just be an old friend from when Karen was a kid and has no blood relation or marriage connection to her, as she's an adopted relative.

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  • I'm sure she didn't reach the ripe-old age of "a woman never tells" by being free with information...

    What if she tells everyone a different family history/back-story in case they turn on her or get turned against her at some point in the future... thus keeping any potentially damaging information from being used against her. She's bound to trip-up at some point but anyone that cares about her would understand if they called her on it and she explained.
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    Debriefing about the whole mess and Goldstar still hasn't learned to not snark at SG. Discipline and professional foe, definitely one to avoid unless you have a team backing you. "Mockcap" wants Madcap for her ability to empower burnt out power items, with how many of those there could be out there that is a terrifying thought. Goldstar tries to take charge, only to piss off Blue Streak and Violet saying nothing has changed. Mass manufacture for the thread Madcap used, did the stitching herself.

    Swashbuckler has great deductive reasoning skills. Nice bit of deduction Stacy's part as well. Ouch, reasoning behind Madcap's family life and how she is treated, that would drive anyone a little around the bend to be treated like a servant in their own home. Wonder why Madcap is really doing all this, attention or just because she wants her 15 minutes of fame.

    Ten-Lords-A-Leaping is a real stumper of a clue. Stacy thinking she has to be brooding on a gargoyle while on stake-out, nice Batman reference. A hologram like that, yeah, Madcap is going to fall for the obvious trap. Already incorporating her new "codename" she gave herself even. Aronhoff Center, and yeah, I don't want to think of the ways to hold that many people hostage at once, too grim.

    Text only communication, rest of the team covering the exits while SG goes inside invisibly to get Madcap, this has so many ways it would go wrong with Mockcap involved. Goldstar goes storming in this time and gets people killed, the rest of team will probably hand him over to the authorities at this point as a loose cannon who is dangerous as the criminals he goes after, if not more so.

    Mockcap fighting with a group of powerarmor users, with her own group of 10 men in power armors backing her up, oh boy. So much for the simply capture Madcap and lure Mockcap away, it is already gone chaotic. Crimson Claw and his goons are mixing it up with Mockcap and her goons, great, two supervillains and their henchmen. No bars, oh crud, must be a jamming device in the area, would be the smart thing for Crimson Claw to do so the authorities don't know about what is going on yet.

    Great, Dylan being an idiot and thinking to "Bugs Bunny" these guys with dropped sandbags. At least Stacy gets him to see reason and pointed out what he could actually do to help. Telling Dylan what she plans to do, only to spot Nate beating up some of the villains and putting himself in danger again. A stage prop from Riverdance, how in the world did a power item end up there. Crud, gets fancy and Nate ends up getting dog-piled by Crimson Claw's goons.

    At least Nate is that badly beaten up when Stacy saves him, though that power item seems awfully familiar for some reason. Great, light which can illuminate her when invisible, not good. *groans* Golden Angel aka Madcap makes some of the old Looney Tunes character look sane in comparison. Nice tools SG brought along, using holdouts already, smart girl. At least she got Nate out of there finally, came close to getting himself severely hurt if not killed. Madcap's hamster-ball of doom, too perfect.

    Darn it! Finally gets her hands on Madcap in her protective bubble and the guy with the light trick spots her so she is blindsided. Inside the ball with Madcap, yikes. Spence there with some sort of high-end remote, saying he was there to see Riverdance with his family, using the remote stolen from Crimson Claw to control the dancers in power armor. Madcap actually thinks it is cool he is controlling the dancers to fight Crimson Claw, oh bother. Madcap with that remote. *groans*

    A super-villain who designs things with the thought the heroes might use it to control his men to attack him, one of the more dangerous type. Cardinal Sin and The Congregation of Crime shows up, oh brother, soon we are going to need a score card to keep each side straight. It seems 'Mockcap' was Mother Superbia, a member of this new group, in disguise and now that is dropped. Liked the disguise better!

    Stacy has a good idea of what to do, ruined the Madcap aka Golden Angel once again going off to capture Madcap, she is well and truly nuts.

    "What does she think she's DOING?" "She thinks?" Spence shot back.

    Wondering if Fubar might be afraid to try and enter her mind after the first attempt. 4 KoP in full battle gear show up, SG sends out a decoy which gets cut down, if she could show this to SPECTRUM it would mean serious trouble for the KoP.

    3 of CC's goons taken out, time bombs on the exits which are disarmed with ease, doors unblocked and SWAT comes in to help get the civilians out safely. Only reason I can think of why SPECTRUM would think Stacy wanted to handle things on her own and KoP would say she called them in is one jackass, Goldstar. Have to wonder what happened with him. And she has to go back in to get Madcap, just not her day.

    4 way battle, CC and his men, Cardinal Sin and the Congregation of Crime, KoP, and SG trying to save Madcap. Great, cloud of steam gives her away, if she were in an RPG the GM would be triggering complications left and right for the poor girl. All of them take aim at SG, even the KoP, manipulates Madcap into turning on her rocket boots. Perfect chaos ensues. Only for one of the 'Congregation' to grow to 10' tall and catch Madcap in her ball.

    And the sound and lighting system goes off, crippling almost everyone there, ouch. Darn, electrical control panel locked down tight, never easy for her. Ah, so the golden 'chalice' might just be a grenade. Criminal masterminds taking a lot of their ideas from old Warner Brothers cartoons, oh course they do, simply, zany, and no one actually expect a serious criminal or supervillain to stoop to something like that.

    Yikes, EMP grenade, nasty piece of work in the modern world. The KoP and CC's men in the power frames are stuck, systems fried and unable to move, couldn't happen to two "nicer" groups. *groans* Madcap calls SG a sidekick after she does everything and saves her. And she triggers the icy wind vortex again sending her crashing around, she is almost less of a threat when she isn't trying to help. Living Vacuum's vortex gun, hoping to neutralize the one Madcap caused. *crosses fingers* Great, it was working until an idiot in the 'Congregation' did something, causing the two vortexes to synch. And KOed by crashing through a cinderblock wall, poor SG.

    Outside the theater, SG outcold, the press waiting, and Cardinal Sin gloating about no one there to save Golden Angel and what act of Divine Intervention will save her now. So of course right then from above Golden Knight shows up with Violet, Red Thunder, Captain Patriot, Azure, Blue Streak, and the Green Witch. Seeing this Cardinal Sin call only respond in one way:

    "Wow, I really walked right into that one, didn't I?"


    Goldstar thinks SG used a mutant power to shut down the KoP armor, since it is tempest-shielded. Jarson-Kaplan Theater is signal shield to prevent people from sending cell phone images of the performances, among other reasons. Dang, so it wasn't the villains jamming things. An EMP amped like that, yikes. Goldstar trying to say Stacy gave them authorization despite several facts. 1. She doesn't know their number and would call in SPECTRUM first. 2. KoP aren't authorized to operate in Cincinnati and she wouldn't give it to them. 3. She couldn't have called them in due to the theater plus giving her cell phone to Dylan.

    'Gatekeeper" between Silver's phone and the rest of the SPECTRUM hookup, only creep who fits the bill is Goldstar. They know who has been baiting Madcap, no proof about Goldstar messing with Silver yet though, rats. Cardinal Sin [CS from now on] has been at this for at least 25 years, oh boy. A war between CC and CS would be bad, we have just seen the open salvos of what could turn into a deadly fight for all around them.

    Idiot Goldstar talks about removing SG from the area and Madcap will just leave, oh brother, she started all this before she ever met SG. She won't stop just because she is gone. Goldstar using the KoP like this just makes him an even bigger idiot and threat for unleashing them. when Tawny agrees with Stacy, stating they need to scale down their reaction plans, and get rid of the heavy firepower, you should listen.

    Herb is a bit naïve, not seeing this might be a set-up to force the KoP's hands after the recent incident, where they are doomed whether they go or not in the eyes of the Press. These H1!, talking back and forth how they can benefit either way from what happens at the press conference. Send innocents in the potential line of fire and get bad press or don't get and Goodkind's support for them pulled, nice to see them between a rock and hard place. Gordon thinks he is cunning, I think his idea might backfire on him.

    Nate, Spence, and Dylan talking about how they were heroes at the Jarman-Kaplan Theater, goofing around, getting teased about going out to wage a relentless war against Crime and Corruption. Silly group of friends, hope they don't take the idea seriously.

    David, Courtney, Jennifer, Lisa, and the Matts of Evolution Rocks! having a formal meeting with Dagny, Imbas and Mills, oh boy. Great, 3 big egos who don't want anything done without having a material say in it. Well-mannered people rarely make HISTORY, Imbas is a fanatic who talks like he doesn't care who dies for the causes as long as it isn't him. Oh brother, one of those types of group, not caring to try and achieve anything as long as they are seen supporting a cause and making a name for themself in the news.

    Dagny a SJW, oh great. Ow, the words out Imbas and Dagny's mouths actually hurt to read, they come across as shallow-minded idiots trying to make names for themselves instead of caring about the cause, it is frustrating. *starts banging head on desk from reading more of Dagny and Mills* Make the idiots stop! All that about how she works well with the cops and Mills says so what, arrrgggh! Dagny saying the police are no better the KoP, what the @#(!, he needs to get psychological help, probably some meds as well. David and the others have the patience of saints to put up with Dagny, Imbas and Mills, I would have had to hit them after the 3rd time spouting off some stupid idea that bashes the police alongside the KOP. Oh boy, Mills last rants has me worried about what he is plotting behind the others' backs.

    *eyes bug out* Okay, what are Pro-Life and Pro-Choice movements, NRA group, and Black Rights group along with the PTA doing there, this is ridiculous. All that to make the villains trip each other up and shut up some of the idiots bad-mouthing SG, with Madcap involved it is going to be worse than a rookie RPG GM hit with the unexpected from his players. Stepping down from her hunt for Madcap, oh boy, that will set the zany one off.

    Lee-Kirby Reconstruction Contractors, nice call out to some of the greats of superhero comics. Ugh, used by the KoP as a front for their teams to strike from ambush, once again without being authorized to, this time they better not just get away with it by Herb paying someone off.

    I pity Travis have to organizing and deal with the logistics of setting up such demonstrations. Especially with all the potential problems that could happen with the other groups and organizations they interact with.

    Uh oh, I don't like the way Mills is acting, I knew this would be bad. Exploiting mutants to take down what he sees wrong with culture and current society, Mills is a fool. Trying to get SG killed on live TV just so mutants will rise up and overthrow the "corrupt Capitalist structure", he is sick and sicken. Great, David doesn't see the wolf-in-sheep-clothing that Mills is yet. And I think he is going to have someone in one of the ponchos attack one of the H1! guys or KoP to frame it on SG, just a guess.

    Two ranks of KoP in power armor showed up, earlier scene suggest there are more lying in wait. Oh boy, Stacy learns about the H1! with children being there, things are getting worse.

    Mills was using Rosalee as part of his scheme, Lester handling the fuse box calls in to state she has been arrested for drug possession, suspicious as she only drank, never drugs according to Mills. Someone waiting to drive getaway, yeah, these creeps need to be ousted from Evolution Rocks! Disguising himself as a fake SG and with a weird device, Mills plans to pull off his own insane idea himself.

    SG is quick, saving herself and two men, but Azure is dead, her head blown off, Mills is toast! Confusion and chaos, everyone thinking he is Golden Angel, he sets off a bomb making things worse as a headless body of a tall, athletic woman advances on them all, did Azure somehow not die by having her head blown off? Oh, good, android replica of Azure, oh course the KoP shoots it to bits, not even thinking about the innocent bystanders in the area. Ah, all of the other SPECTRUM members were piloting cybernetic decoy drones, smart.

    Cardinal Sin and his followers run for after he realizes the Green Witch he took down was an android double. Ouch, feedback like that for Cal, no wonder he doesn't like dealing with magic users. When his drone takes damage he feels pain, all to be a more effective hero using his Golden Knight drone, yikes.

    KoP herding Evo Rocks! and H1! like sheep, then when they think they've spotted SG they take aim with lethal weapons, morons! Ah, commandeered KoP communications link, meaning it is Crimson Claw's men in those suits, great. Using sonic weapons in an area with civilians around, oh boy. Smashing someone back and forth into the ground 'Tom and Jerry' style, too funny.

    SG in trouble only for Red Thunder to rush in to the rescue! SPECTRUM has some great team tactics and works well with the local authorities, wonder how badly the guys in the KoP suits got banged up. Crimson Claw complaining about losing his deposit and overhead for the operation, bwahahaha. CC calls for a retreat while another team defends the escaping pilot as they flee their stolen KoP armors. Dang, never seem a villain team work that well together to keep heroes off each other in order to escape. Well organized and trained henchmen are worth more than 50 street thugs at least.

    Okay, what do those plugs put into the KoP armors do, don't like how CC is talking right now. Oh crud, allowed them to merge into a larger, more powerful mecha, can see why Mills made the Voltron comment, got that vibe myself. Devilmaster, something from Devilmaster is how they pulled off that trick with the suits, oh boy. And Green Witch is the only one who can deal with the magic involved.

    Eep, that thing can bat around the Golden Knight like a toy and hurt the hell out of Captain Patriot, this is bad. Dang it! Karen has a water spell all ready thought up and gets hit by 3 drones. And Sgt. Murrow is in trouble as well, being pulled into the monster mech and saved by Red Thunder. Saved by Tawny by being pulled out of his unit as it was being absorbed into the monster mech, guess Sgt. Murrow has a lot to think about in the future.

    Yikes, Cal taking a beating through Golden Knight feedback, Swashbuckler begging him to back off and do some remote repairs, stubborn man. Blue Streak points out one thing comics gloss over, normal humans can deal with 0-to-300 mph acceleration in 5 seconds very well, let alone the speeds seen in major comics. Hhm, would holy water and a priest's blessing work to help fight this monster mech.

    Well, got that answer quick, holy water can hurt it, just not enough of the stuff to do any real damage to the thing available. A knight in shining armor kneeing getting a blessing from a priest reading off a handheld digital device, priceless. And the blessing worked big time, smart thinking on Cal's part and Blue Streak.

    Great, the KoP are awake, heading up an operation to deal with those who stole their armor and self-destruct though which haven't had the anti-jack removed. Great, right as Golden Knight is about to take it down, the stupid thing blows up. Shrapnel harmed civilians still in the area, bad PR for the KoP, no matter how they try to spin it. And the thing is rebuilding itself around the red capsule, extremely bad day. Everyone else is banged up but intact from the looks of things, but no sign of Stacy. Golden Knight drone repaired some, fists blessed and back into the fray.

    Great, the red capsule unit is out of CC's control, things just got worse. Tawny, Azure and Green Witch being kept busy by more goons to keep Green Witch from taking out the Composite Creature as CC is calling it. And CC underestimate's SG, thinking she is just an inexperienced teenage girl who should have run by now. KoP shows up with adhesive launchers for one man in each squad, taking back the stolen suits and beating up the thieves. And CC is in full retreat mode now.

    Mills trying to sneak out while watching the KoP take their suits back, only to be sent right into the hands of the authorities. Courtney, Matt, and Jennifer all implicate him in the attack and give the license plate of his buddies to the police as well. Good riddence to bad rubbish.

    SG went to get Golden Knight's shield and sword back, allowing him to finish off the Composite Creature. Eww, scream from something like that, ups the creep factor easily. At least they are done with the fight for now. Oh boy, Swashbuckler having to do CPR on Cal, after all that it would be bad form for him to die.

    Heroes leave the battlefield with Golden Knight drone's inert form, Stacy worrying about him. Cal is in that bad of shape, if it weren't for a teammate with CPR training, one with a pool of healing and a way to get him there quickly, he probably wouldn't have survived. Anyone who says Cal didn't go the distance that day will end up facing the wrath of his entire team. Bwahahaha! Goldstar sitting at the Civic Center waiting and missed the whole thing, just too perfect. And still more to come of Silver Ghost, Golden Angel. Can't wait. :-p

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    8 years 3 months ago #55 by Wrayth
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  • Thanks for sharing more of Silver's crazy misadventures, Bek.

    Dreamer, your commentary is almost as much fun to read as the story itself.

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    8 years 3 months ago #56 by Esar
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  • Thanks Bek for this new Silver Ghost story's instalment.

    It took me a moment to remember the full situation (I had completely forgotten about the fake madcap ... Sorry.) And then I wholly enjoyed it. Stacy's frustration was communicative, and the humor hit all the right notes.

    I am perplexed, on one hand Stacy is a compelling character and time-line wise she could end up at whateley for the G1Y2 (If I remember correctly SPECTRUM talked to her about whateley) on the other hand she really does not "need" whateley, her own little world is already full of possibilities.

    Again, thanks Bek, it was the perfect christmas gift.
    8 years 3 months ago #57 by Sir Lee
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  • I just hope we don't have to wait until next Christmas for Part 3...

    Don't call me "Shirley." You will surely make me surly.
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    ...

    Then, out of the wreckage, the Golden Knights’ heater shield came flying into the composite beast, separating it from the Knight. Then he heard a young female voice call out, “SIR KNIGHT!” Turning, he saw the Silver Ghost throw his sword to him (hilt first, thank you). It flew with uncanny accuracy to his hand, and he wheeled around, spotting a single chink in the armor of debris burned away by the shield. That revealed a patch of red plastic about the size of a man’s hand. He thrust into the irregular ‘bullseye’, burying his sword into it, up to the hilt.


    OMG! That looks awesome! Silver and Gold! Male and Female! All those nice artistic binaries!

    “Dammit, Cal, stay with me!” Swash said as he furiously applied CPR. “Do you have any IDEA of what Karen will do to me, if I let you die?”

    ...

    Swash gave an amused smirk in Cal’s general direction. “True. But then, having wife and daughter substitutes fuss over you is all the hero’s reward that a man his age can really ask for.”



    So, Cal and Karen aren't a couple, right? I'm shipping them, anyone else?

    Back at the Civic Center, a scrawny figure in gold lame hovered over the battle scene. “HEY! WADDYA MEAN THEY STARTED WITHOUT ME?”


    Ha! :)
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    8 years 3 months ago #59 by Cryptic
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  • Malady wrote: So, Cal and Karen aren't a couple, right? I'm shipping them, anyone else?


    Now that you put it into my head; Yes. Yes I am.

    Mmmph, I also agree I hope we don't have to wait until 2017 to get the next installment. Aren't the 12 days of Christmas still going on? 8P

    I have a few other comments, but I think I'll post them over in the character pages.

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  • Dreamer wrote: Bwahahaha! Goldstar sitting at the Civic Center waiting and missed the whole thing, just too perfect.


    Actually, given the 'scrawny' description, I'm guessing that that is "Golden Angel' (Madcap), rather than GildedScar.

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  • So now Madcap has been imitated in both her Madcap and Golden Angel forms. For an idiot, imitating her is quite popular.

    Hooray for more silver ghost! I hope we don't have to wait until next Christmas to see part 3.

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    8 years 3 months ago #62 by Malady
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  • Wait... Madcap's luck powers saved her from being captured / harmed /something by keeping her away from the press conference, maybe!

    Hmm... Perhaps the only way to contain Madcap is to make it so her luck powers or her or something, precieve it as the best option! How would that work??
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  • Put a bounty on her head, so her best choice is protective custody?

    Don't call me "Shirley." You will surely make me surly.
    8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #64 by Esar
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  • Malady wrote: Hmm... Perhaps the only way to contain Madcap is to make it so her luck powers or her or something, precieve it as the best option! How would that work??


    If she is a probability warper, her luck is likely going to run out at one point.

    “Clover’s a Probability Warper, combined with a magical talent,” Grimes explained. “Most of the time, she unconsciously bends the odds to favor whatever imbecility they’re up to at the moment, but she hasn’t quite figured out how to read the odds. Or, more importantly, to know how to sense when she’s pushed her luck too far and a backlash of bad luck is going to happen. Worse, when she gets scared, she reflexively scrambles the odds seven ways to Sunday.”

    Now while, by and large, Clover’s gift of probability manipulation was a good thing, showering lucky happenstance on her right and left, there was a downside to it. When she’d pushed her luck too far, it ‘snapped back’, creating sometimes-massive bad luck to shower down on her- and anyone standing too close to her at the moment. More experienced ‘manglers’ were able to sense and read the flows of probability, and knew when the odds were turning against them. Some were even able to use the ‘snap back’ against others. Clover had lots of power to her probability warping, but little sensitivity. She never knew when things were suddenly going to go crazy. Indeed, sometimes, the worst snap-back happened and no one noticed- at the time.


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    8 years 3 months ago #65 by Malady
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  • That's only if her Luck Tank is not deep enough to cover her expenditures. I think she might store up luck in her day to day and doesn't spend enough on her escapades to run her empty...
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  • Ok, I have no idea how SPECTRUM puts up with Golden Excon but he has definitely gone beyond the limit of what is tollerable, it has reached the point that it's criminal behaviour. And the KoP, they were the ones that turned the SG decoy into a replica of a chunk of swiss cheese, weren't they? That would be attempted murder, AGAIN, against a minor, and this time they can't claim they don't know she's deputized.

    Anyway, after the shitstorm at the theater the KoP are still in Cincy due to the power of money, however getting their armors stolen by Crimson Claw they have proven that they can't be trusted of having military hardware even if they don't deploy it, even worse they selfdestructed them close to the crowd, causing collateral damage and nuking PECTRUM and the PD forces in the process..... I want to see how H1! manages to push their Anti SG/Pro KoP agenda after that.

    The part that makes me sick is that at the end of the Birthday Brawl the KoP get good PR due taking the merit for Team Kimba's actions and they could get several contracts, including Cincinnati....... On the other hand, seeing Mills getting shafted was extremely satisfying.

    Sir Lee wrote: I just hope we don't have to wait until next Christmas for Part 3...

    Me too.:(
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  • Legally, the KoP can probably get out this one scott free pretty easily, by claiming that the suits doing the shooting were hijacked as well. Of course, leaning on the hijacking too hard hurts their reputation in other ways, but its still a net win for them.

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  • Otherself wrote: Ok, I have no idea how SPECTRUM puts up with Golden Excon but he has definitely gone beyond the limit of what is tollerable, it has reached the point that it's criminal behaviour. And the KoP, they were the ones that turned the SG decoy into a replica of a chunk of swiss cheese, weren't they? That would be attempted murder, AGAIN, against a minor, and this time they can't claim they don't know she's deputized.

    Anyway, after the shitstorm at the theater the KoP are still in Cincy due to the power of money, however getting their armors stolen by Crimson Claw they have proven that they can't be trusted of having military hardware even if they don't deploy it, even worse they selfdestructed them close to the crowd, causing collateral damage and nuking PECTRUM and the PD forces in the process..... I want to see how H1! manages to push their Anti SG/Pro KoP agenda after that.

    The part that makes me sick is that at the end of the Birthday Brawl the KoP get good PR due taking the merit for Team Kimba's actions and they could get several contracts, including Cincinnati....... On the other hand, seeing Mills getting shafted was extremely satisfying.

    Sir Lee wrote: I just hope we don't have to wait until next Christmas for Part 3...

    Me too.:(


    KoP in Birthday Brawl getting credit serves the purpose of keeping attention off Team Kimba, but that was one incident, in another state, where all parties involved communicated with each other and agreed to work together, in Cinci, the KoP are sloppy, they don't have a plan and they refuse to play nice, and they have multiple instances of screwing everything up.

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  • KoP is a group comprised of humans. So you will always have your mixed bag of professionals, zealots and fuckups.
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  • What is slightly surprising is that, given how much importance Herb Goodkind himself attributes to the success of the Cincinnati operation, nevertheless they seem to have sent a less-than-stellar team there.

    OTOH, the team sent to Boston in January was operating in much more comfortable conditions -- they had a valid contract, a clear mission an much less need for spur-of-the-moment initiative or, in fact, act as diplomats/salesmen/poster boys. It's easier to be a pro in those conditions.
    The Cincinnati guys have to act under a bit of an impossible dilemma -- be effective in a showy way without breaking any laws, when they have no permission to operate in the city in the first place. It's a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situation.

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  • Sir Lee wrote: What is slightly surprising is that, given how much importance Herb Goodkind himself attributes to the success of the Cincinnati operation, nevertheless they seem to have sent a less-than-stellar team there.

    OTOH, the team sent to Boston in January was operating in much more comfortable conditions -- they had a valid contract, a clear mission an much less need for spur-of-the-moment initiative or, in fact, act as diplomats/salesmen/poster boys. It's easier to be a pro in those conditions.
    The Cincinnati guys have to act under a bit of an impossible dilemma -- be effective in a showy way without breaking any laws, when they have no permission to operate in the city in the first place. It's a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situation.

    What's ironic is that they would probably have gotten probationary permission if they weren't being showy and tried harder at being professional

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  • mhalpern wrote: KoP in Birthday Brawl getting credit serves the purpose of keeping attention off Team Kimba, but that was one incident, in another state, where all parties involved communicated with each other and agreed to work together, in Cinci, the KoP are sloppy, they don't have a plan and they refuse to play nice, and they have multiple instances of screwing everything up.


    What I was talking about is this:

    from Ayla and the Birthday Brawl CHAPTER 13 wrote: So, sure enough, about three seconds later, my phone rang. I Phase-leapt well away from them before I answered it. “Hi Paul.”

    My brother crowed, “Ayla! I had to call you. Uncle Herb is ecstatic. Boston is asking for four units of the Knights of Purity full-time in the Metro area, to interact with SWAT. The Knights are getting great news coverage out of the whole thing, and it’s all thanks to your foresight.”

    I grimaced, “Well, they kind of glossed over what my team actually did.”

    He went on, “Plus, with a keystone city like Boston suddenly changing its mind, a couple more large metro areas are wavering. It looks like Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, and Detroit will probably try the Knights on a contingency basis for maybe six months, just to see how it works out. Plus, a couple other cities may increase their coverage. And Cincinnati is calling Uncle Herb too. You know, he’s been worrying about making the K.O.P. pay for itself, and this is likely to be what moves them into the black.”


    .... and the fact that it sucks considering what we have seen so far about the KoP.
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  • We don't actually know what Cincinati is contacting the KoP about.

    For all we know they could be sent a cease and desit order making it illegal for them to be in the city itself (the armour and the group on a business level if not the people themselves).

    Could be an early warning for such measures.

    How would that change everyone's stance on the knights? Being completely banned from a city due to repeated shows of imcompetence and disregard for civilian life,

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  • Not to mention the ability of the civilians to start up a class action law suite. I sure as hell would after their public displays and firing military grade ordinance inside city limits. Who knows how many innocent bystanders got hit away from the conflict zones. Fired rounds don't just disappear.

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  • Valentine wrote: The KOP, Lamplighter, and Skyhawk deserve each other.

    I don't think that Skyhawk deserves such treatment, it's like comparing apples and oranges
    • the KoP are generally malicious (yes, it's a generalization but lets face it, they are anti-mutant death squads kept in check by law that will gladly take any chance to ignore said law and murder mutants, and with the power of the Goodkinds backing them up that is very often)

    • the Lamplighter may be trying to do what he thinks is right (but then, it could be said about the KoP too, in a completely twisted way) but he completely lacks restraint or sense of proportion between crime and punishment, so in the end he is a moronic thug with superpowers who is there in between the vigilante Antihero and the supervillain (who is left alone because taking him down would cause too much collateral damage and he tends to keep worse villains in check, being the lesser evil)

    • Skyhawk is someone that is genuinely trying to do the right thing and he tries his best to keep innocents form harms way, the problem is that he's severely lacking as far as tactical and strategic awareness are concerned. He isn't an idiot that causes more problems than it solves (like the Flying Bulldozer), he isn't a thug who likes beating people up, he isn't a gloryhound, he is just the kind of hero that sees a problem and throws himself at it, what he would need is someone who sits him and hammers (by whatever means necessary) in his thick skull things like Tactics and how to work with police, so that he can be an asset rather than a liability
    Now Limplighter vs KoP or Lamplighter vs Goldstar would be interesting, Goldstar wouldn't stand a chance, the KoP might, however there would be at least a asshole getting mauled.
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  • Given our new information on Grand Quests or whatever, from Final Trump 1.1, and the Grand Quest in that story involves Gnostisophism, at least tangentally, and Madcap professing her father as a Gnostisophist... perhaps:

    Madcap is on a Grand Quest! And she doesn't know it! ... Her mutant power makes Grand Quests for her, giving objects the magic they need to activate, and the force of the Quest manifests as what appears to be Luck Manipulation...

    Also 'cause they're both written by Bek... But it's not like everything Bek writes has Grand Quests in it... Or do they? ... Grand Quests for Everyone!!!
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  • Having (finally) caught up on this, I can't help but wonder exactly what's going on with Spence.

    I mean, the fact that now Nate and Dylan are also part of the picture maybe his specialness is diluted, but by my count, not only has he been mixing it up with supervillains, not only is Stacy convinced he might be trans, but he's been caught in the magic Ankh's healing effect AND he's been dunked in the Pool of Vitality down in the Witch Cave.

    I also find Stacy's connection to that Ankh being suggestive, but I don't know of what.

    And finally, it was nice to see that Dr. Smart showed up here, not just over in the Final Trump.
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  • Working on rereading all the good silvery ghosty stuff to catch up on things, as well as mixing in slowly catching up on some other stories.

    I gotta say, i really do think Cal and Karen would make a sweet couple. Though she'd probably also try and get him into shape.

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  • DynamoGrrrl wrote: Having (finally) caught up on this, I can't help but wonder exactly what's going on with Spence.

    I mean, the fact that now Nate and Dylan are also part of the picture maybe his specialness is diluted, but by my count, not only has he been mixing it up with supervillains, not only is Stacy convinced he might be trans, but he's been caught in the magic Ankh's healing effect AND he's been dunked in the Pool of Vitality down in the Witch Cave.

    I also find Stacy's connection to that Ankh being suggestive, but I don't know of what.

    And finally, it was nice to see that Dr. Smart showed up here, not just over in the Final Trump.

    The thing with the Ankh is that Sobek might like her, as she is using the artifact for its proper purpose, and by extension she is guiding and aiding him in achieving his purpose.

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  • Just found out about this...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati_Museum_...er_at_Union_Terminal

    Yes. Cincinnati has MUSEUMS at the building that inspired the HALL OF JUSTICE in SUPERFRIENDS.

    How come it hasn't been mentioned in the Silver Ghost stories?

    Or has it, and I just forgot?

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  • so finally an addition to the Silver ghost line. Damn Kirk is in quite the bind,,

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  • Yep, our annual Christmas story, as it were, I suppose!

    WOW!

    And that Cardsharp stuff. Totally out of left field. But awesome!

    Cardsharp is totally cool! Keeps violence to a minimum, a smooth negotiator, etc!

    ----

    I'm thinking Green Elf is Sylvia, mainly 'cause she's both new, and wearing green, but then I have to wonder how she knows Madcap, as it seems the Green Elf, would...

    ----

    Such a sweet ending!

    ----

    I kept thinking "is it gonna end here, for a cliffhanger?" But, no! It's been uncommented, so the whole page I see from my scroll bar, is the whole story! Soo goood!

    Nice call-backs to previous Silver Ghost stories, and the Angel of Hell's Kitchen!
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  • Malady wrote: Nice call-backs to previous Silver Ghost stories, and the Angel of Hell's Kitchen!


    Plus a bit of The Final Trump - I wonder if Jessie's heard of the Scapegrace Knight.

    Aunghadhail really got around if the Seventh Queen of the West is the Ninth Queen of the West too! Sucks to be #8. Aegloswen was also #7. Not a very close family there.

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  • I'm quite sure you're joking, but just in case... I think the Sidhe Queens are all sisters, just sisters, not sister-mothers, and their ordering is just based on birth order?

    ----

    Also, thinking Scapegrace Knight is just coincidence in naming.

    Unlike that Envy mention.

    ----

    So, a Quest is in play once more... Maybe this is Bek's Grand Quest to join all Quests.

    Gotta brush up on my Cardsharp. I think he was mentioned in The Final Trump, but not sure.

    Scapegrace becoming the Scapegrace Queen by being possessed by Madb, or something, is unlikely.
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  • Malady wrote: I'm quite sure you're joking, but just in case... I think the Sidhe Queens are all sisters, just sisters, not sister-mothers, and their ordering is just based on birth order?


    I suspect that they aren't literally sisters, but sister queens in that they share a husband and an equivalent rank at court. (Unlike European rulers, many of whom weren't kidding when writing to a "Dear Cousin"

    Setting that aside, Aunghadhail is the Seventh Queen of the West on the wiki and in "A Fistful of Chaka". In "Silver Ghost, Golden Angel" she's referred to as the Ninth, by Madb who claims to be the Eighth. In "Dawn of the Aurora", Aegloswen is declared Seventh of the Nine Queens.

    The numbers could just be their realms' seniority among the nine that count, not necessarliy their individual seniority.

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  • As to the story itself, I'll admit I enjoy watching Goldstar digging himself deeper and deeper. I'll need to re-read the earlier chapters to refresh my memory on how far the Three Amigos have been going to get Stacy's attention, because hijinks like that are always fun.

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    Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will be details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.

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  • null0trooper wrote:

    Malady wrote: I'm quite sure you're joking, but just in case... I think the Sidhe Queens are all sisters, just sisters, not sister-mothers, and their ordering is just based on birth order?


    Setting that aside, Aunghadhail is the Seventh Queen of the West on the wiki and in "A Fistful of Chaka". In "Silver Ghost, Golden Angel" she's referred to as the Ninth, by Madb who claims to be the Eighth. In "Dawn of the Aurora", Aegloswen is declared Seventh of the Nine Queens.

    The numbers could just be their realms' seniority among the nine that count, not necessarliy their individual seniority.

    Or, one of them could be mistaken, or lying.

    I'm pretty sure in every other story besides Fistful of Chaka that Aunghadhail called herself the Ninth Queen of the West. So that is probably a typo in Fistul of Chaka and the wiki is outdated. Though I could be wrong. :huh:

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  • That was an interesting ending. So the other queens are still around. What i'm curious to know...Why does Madb have to locate her parts/pieces while Aung's was a simple Avatar search. Hmmmm

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  • Yolandria wrote: That was an interesting ending. So the other queens are still around. What i'm curious to know...Why does Madb have to locate her parts/pieces while Aung's was a simple Avatar search. Hmmmm


    Any chunk of Queenie lodged in a physical hallow may survive longer intact, but as an ancient Item of Power they'd be hunted and traded throughout the ages. The closer to the epicenter of the Sundering, the fewer of those should have existed, let alone survive bound to the current year? Or, they could have all been just that wildly different in nature from each other.

    I can imagine Bek sitting back, thinking "After all this work put into showing that Stacy's slowing becoming more confident in herself as a young woman, and they're all concentrating on a throughaway line about the Sidhe!"

    (That's probably my own projection, as I don't see the Sidhe as being all that and a cog for your sprocket.)

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  • I wonder...Latex nun...I know who she is...Bianca Beauchamp! (From Latex Lair)

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  • What I am now wondering is if any WA students live in the Cincinnati area, and whether any will be coming home for Christmas break. Or are already home for break now.

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  • Re Seventh/Ninth Queen: my position is that canon evidence from Maggie's stories outrank canon evidence from Bek's stories because, well, Fey is Maggie's character. Unless there is Word of God that this is being officially retconned.

    Going back to the main subject... the Xmas Silver Ghost story is pretty much finished, but not much ended up resolved after all. Goldstar is still a member of SPECTRUM, the KoP are still around (Is that the *second* time they have their gear stolen from them? C'mon, Herb, this is not a good look... and you jailbird pawn/mole ALSO had his gear humiliatingly stolen), Madcap is still bouncing around (minus a crown), there's a NEW teen wildcard...

    I notice that Stacy hasn't angsted about her still-in-transition status even once in this chapter. I notice also that she goes full telepath when under the influence, so she might be unconsciously blocking that power. She looks more and more like a PDP with something extra to give that invisibility/silver effect. PDP+Warper? And, despite her stated intention of giving Goldtar a cake with a file, she ended up including him in the "thank you" caroling scene.

    I'm still wondering about Spence... didn't he land in Whateley in September 2007? Maybe *he* is the Green Elf? I don't remember right now in which Fall 2007 story he showed up to check...

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  • Loved the ending, hope the next Ghost story is coming soon. (Easter?)

    And I think the reason Nikki got that Oh I know what this is reaction from Lumpy's Lamp is cause it has Mabd's other eye in it.

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  • One thing no one seems to have taken note of was just how serious the situation at the party had been; first, because mutant physiology often has unpredictable reactions to drugs (which of course had been what Kirk was counting on), meaning that the Ecstasy could have done a lot worse than just amping up her ESP; second, because Stacy came close to blurting things out that she really doesn't want the other kids to know; and third, because she isn't fully transitioned, meaning that if Nate hadn't rescued her, and Corey had managed to get her clothes off, she could have gotten outed both as a mutant and as a changeling.

    Yolandria wrote: That was an interesting ending. So the other queens are still around. What i'm curious to know...Why does Madb have to locate her parts/pieces while Aung's was a simple Avatar search. Hmmmm


    It's possible she didn't have a choice; she could have been trapped in a physical object the same way Terra-Kashaly had been.

    in 'Small Mercies', JG wrote: "One of the great weapons of those who would destroy what should be was a means of cheating death, be it natural or not. A way of binding one’s consciousness to an object so that the mind, and part of the soul carrying personality, memory, knowledge and a trace of their power would be preserved."


    Note that this would probably be a little different from what happened to T-K; whereas she was trapped in a single stone, and would have then possessed anyone who held it,

    "They would be traps to the unwary, subsuming a host and taking a new form with each incarnation. [...] Yes, it is a danger, and were you like the others I would not have had much to say in the matter. I would have simply subsumed you and taken your body, regardless of how either of us felt about it the instant you touched the stone were you not different, Matthew.”


    ... in Mabd's case, it sounds as if her body was turned to stone, and then magically dismembered a la the lich Vecna from classic D&D.

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  • Silver Ghost, Golden Angel (Part 3) wrote: Stacy had never really given that cartoon much thought, but suddenly she hated that franchise. Why didn’t they make a cartoon about a heroic ghostly character? That would totally ROCK!


    Stacy, the Silver Ghost,
    the shiniest ghost you know.
    Though bigots might
    look at her with fright,
    the cops all love her so!

    She always sends photos,
    and though she's quite exhausted,
    whichever villain shows,
    she evacs every helpless hostage.

    Things don't go by her plan;
    the radio likes to roast.
    But Cincy knows
    what her heart has shown,
    Stacy the Silver Ghost!

    Silver Ghost, Golden Angel (Part 3) wrote: “Ho, ho, ho!” he gave a jolly chuckle. “What? You don’t recognize Santa Claw?” he held one hand, showing off whatever gadget he had today.

    Cue the crickets.

    Don't feel bad, Mr. Claw. I thought it was hilarious!

    Silver Ghost, Golden Angel (Part 3) wrote: “Still, the Green Elf? There’s got to be a better superhero name for her! Like… the Jinglenator!

    That is almost an excellent name. Not the right style of name for the Green Elf specifically, but this kid is barking up the right tree.

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  • Kettlekorn wrote:

    Silver Ghost, Golden Angel (Part 3) wrote: “Still, the Green Elf? There’s got to be a better superhero name for her! Like… the Jinglenator!

    That is almost an excellent name. Not the right style of name for the Green Elf specifically, but this kid is barking up the right tree.


    Aren't the green ones with the pots of gold Lepercolonies?

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  • I'm not usually a fan of Bek's stories but Silver Ghost I've enjoyed. And I need to give props for expressing that first kiss so perfectly.

    _wow_

    That just floored me. So succinct, so perfect. Well done.
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  • Might Madb's other eye, be the "an Eye which Akelarre added with no further explanation (shielding her gaze as she dropped it in)"

    From " The Final Trump Part 5 "?
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  • Malady wrote: Might Madb's other eye, be the "an Eye which Akelarre added with no further explanation (shielding her gaze as she dropped it in)"

    From " The Final Trump Part 5 "?


    Eye don't know...

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  • I wonder if there's some mystical way to find Madcap, given how much magical gear she has?

    Or some link between the Crimson Claw, and his Claw??
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