Question Razorback

Why is he cold blooded. I don't think dinosaurs are supposed to be?

Out of date info from 2006ish or whenever he was first written compared to the now of modern understanding of dinosaurs? Or just something JG had a special plan for from ages long past.

NJM1564 wrote: Why is he cold blooded. I don't think dinosaurs are supposed to be?

He is not a dinosaur, that is mentioned in one ofthe stories.

He's the avatar of a Pre-Sundering warbeast designed to deal with Class X type monsters. That just happens to resemble a raptor.

JG wrote:

Cryptic wrote: He's the avatar of a Pre-Sundering warbeast designed to deal with Class X type monsters. That just happens to resemble a raptor.

this

Who can be defeated by a refrigerator?
Random class X "He's coming what will we do?
Other random class X. "Quick throw the ice from your soda at him."

The person who designed him was a min-maxer.

Cryptic wrote: He's the avatar of a Pre-Sundering warbeast designed to deal with Class X type monsters. That just happens to resemble a raptor.

If you were a Sidhe mad scientist would you want one of these running around without a convenient "OFF" switch?

null0trooper wrote:

Cryptic wrote: He's the avatar of a Pre-Sundering warbeast designed to deal with Class X type monsters. That just happens to resemble a raptor.

If you were a Sidhe mad scientist would you want one of these running around without a convenient "OFF" switch?

Ah, but artwork Caitlin saw seems to indicate it was the Gaia's Daughter who Noms inherited the power, etc. from who commanded and thus created them. Not a Sidhe mad scientist. At least based on what little we know.

Dreamer wrote:

null0trooper wrote:

Cryptic wrote: He's the avatar of a Pre-Sundering warbeast designed to deal with Class X type monsters. That just happens to resemble a raptor.

If you were a Sidhe mad scientist would you want one of these running around without a convenient "OFF" switch?

Ah, but artwork Caitlin saw seems to indicate it was the Gaia's Daughter who Noms inherited the power, etc. from who commanded and thus created them. Not a Sidhe mad scientist. At least based on what little we know.

Would that make Razerback and the grove cousins? That would explain so much.

NJM1564 wrote:

Dreamer wrote:

null0trooper wrote:

Cryptic wrote: He's the avatar of a Pre-Sundering warbeast designed to deal with Class X type monsters. That just happens to resemble a raptor.

If you were a Sidhe mad scientist would you want one of these running around without a convenient "OFF" switch?

Ah, but artwork Caitlin saw seems to indicate it was the Gaia's Daughter who Noms inherited the power, etc. from who commanded and thus created them. Not a Sidhe mad scientist. At least based on what little we know.

Would that make Razerback and the grove cousins? That would explain so much.

Yeah, it just might. They did get along REALLY well.

Iwasforger03 wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

Dreamer wrote:

null0trooper wrote:

Cryptic wrote: He's the avatar of a Pre-Sundering warbeast designed to deal with Class X type monsters. That just happens to resemble a raptor.

If you were a Sidhe mad scientist would you want one of these running around without a convenient "OFF" switch?

Ah, but artwork Caitlin saw seems to indicate it was the Gaia's Daughter who Noms inherited the power, etc. from who commanded and thus created them. Not a Sidhe mad scientist. At least based on what little we know.

Would that make Razerback and the grove cousins? That would explain so much.

Yeah, it just might. They did get along REALLY well.

Someone should make a list of the rest of the extended family. I'd do it but I know me. I'm to clever by half. And at some point after the thousandth entery I's realize I should just say everybody.

Valentine wrote:

My Theory JG [ Click to expand ] [ Click to hide ]

The lovely Mrs. Turner is the head of Sidewinder Holdings, and the beatiful Mrs. Erin Carlyle-Turner. Jack's Avatar/Hollow size problem was solved, and can now switch between Razorback and Erin.

I'm not sure if Jacks gender change was a part of his avatar's effect. Wasn't his inner self in the middle of the spirit male. That suggests a form derived from a bit.
So if you have a exemplar with a strong bit countering the avatar transformation then that would explain the differences between himself and normal stalkers and even alpha stalkers.
Exemplar powers added to the alpha stalkers impressive.

Valentine wrote:

My Theory JG [ Click to expand ] [ Click to hide ]

The lovely Mrs. Turner is the head of Sidewinder Holdings, and the beatiful Mrs. Erin Carlyle-Turner. Jack's Avatar/Hollow size problem was solved, and can now switch between Razorback and Erin.

I wouldn't break out the party dresses just yet.

From Reinforce: Don't Call Me a Pretty :

"My brother has lived looking like I do right now for twelve years. He’s not ashamed. He’s not a monster, and he saved more lives than most heroes."

Although I must say I'm really curious as to what it would be like to be the Pack Stalker Avatar with a large hollow. What benefits can the Pack-Stalker grant other than being a badass deathraptor?

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Although I must say I'm really curious as to what it would be like to be the Pack Stalker Avatar with a large hollow. What benefits can the Pack-Stalker grant other than being a badass deathraptor?

Regen, super speed, super senses, specialized ESP, rager (maybe), vulnerable in various ways to sounds.

...natural manly scent(s).

Katssun wrote: ...natural manly scent(s).

That's called a musk.

And I for got to include a natural anime/spiky hairstyle.

JG wrote:

Katssun wrote: ...natural manly scent(s).

I believe this was addressed in Imp5: Head over Tail

I could be mistaken, but I believe this was the joke I was referencing.

I would LOVE it if someone wrote Razor's origin.

Avatars and feature adaptation makes me wonder about Aquerna... does she have her squirrel claws because her hallow is too small and the squirrel pushed out those changes? So either the Spirit of the squirrel is a HUGE spirit, or Anna's hallow is really, really small?

Rose Bunny wrote: I would LOVE it if someone wrote Razor's origin.

Avatars and feature adaptation makes me wonder about Aquerna... does she have her squirrel claws because her hollow is too small and the squirrel pushed out those changes? So either the Spirit of the squirrel is a HUGE spirit, or Anna's hollow is really, really small?

I think some of the changes can be voluntary or forced by the Spirit. Our Kitty boy/girl has a hollow that should be big enough. But his spirit is forcing the form.

NJM1564 wrote:
I think some of the changes can be voluntary or forced by the Spirit. Our Kitty boy/girl has a hollow that should be big enough. But his spirit is forcing the form.

Actually, part of his issue is that his Hallow WASN'T big enough.

NJM1564 wrote:

Rose Bunny wrote: I would LOVE it if someone wrote Razor's origin.

Avatars and feature adaptation makes me wonder about Aquerna... does she have her squirrel claws because her hollow is too small and the squirrel pushed out those changes? So either the Spirit of the squirrel is a HUGE spirit, or Anna's hollow is really, really small?

I think some of the changes can be voluntary or forced by the Spirit. Our Kitty boy/girl has a hollow that should be big enough. But his spirit is forcing the form.

Nope. Danny's hallow is too small for Wihinape, thus the headaches from the earlier stories and him having to transform into kitty girl to help ease the stress so she doesn't have to force any permanent physical changes on him or at least they won't be as severe as they can be with him doing so.

Most likely for Anna the claws aren't so much the spirit forcing it as a case of "How else could it give her power, but to give her squirrel claws." If she learned more control, it might actually be possible to revert that when she didn't need it. OR her hollow is just barely too small for it. Barely.

Dreamer wrote:

NJM1564 wrote: I think some of the changes can be voluntary or forced by the Spirit. Our Kitty boy/girl has a hollow that should be big enough. But his spirit is forcing the form.

Nope. Danny's hallow is too small for Wihinape, thus the headaches from the earlier stories and him having to transform into kitty girl to help ease the stress so she doesn't have to force any permanent physical changes on him or at least they won't be as severe as they can be with him doing so.

Two minor points.
1) it's a HALLOW, not a hollow. HALLOW. With an "A". (pet peeve #57)

2) I've noted - his hallow IS big enough, but the theories of avatars' hallows and spirits are still being refined. In Danny's case, his hallow is technically big enough, but it follows a form relating to his own body, whereas Wihinape has a spirit form that doesn't fit. It's like having a cube of 1cc and a sphere of 1cc. Technically, they're the same volume, but you can't put one inside the other without deforming one or both of them.
This developing theory of spirits and hallows having form does explain Razorback - he's an extreme case of Spirit-Hallow Mismatch Deformity. Anna MIGHT be a less severe case.

There's still a LOT to learn about spirits and avatars.

Yeah, the distinction between "hAllow" (as in an avatar) and "hOllow" (as in Erik Mahren, who was a Hollow Man) is important.
Mnemonic: "A" for "Avatar", "O" for "Ornery".

Sir Lee wrote: Yeah, the distinction between "hAllow" (as in an avatar) and "hOllow" (as in Erik Mahren, who was a Hollow Man) is important.
Mnemonic: "A" for "Avatar", "O" for "Ornery".

I wonder how much of a connection there is between the two. If you were to rip the hallow out of a person would that leave a hollow? It could explain the controllable aspect of them. And there constant short circuiting.

Sir Lee wrote: Yeah, the distinction between "hAllow" (as in an avatar) and "hOllow" (as in Erik Mahren, who was a Hollow Man) is important.
Mnemonic: "A" for "Avatar", "O" for "Ornery".

Well played sir... DanZilla pulls a pan of Golden XP cookies out of the oven and gives Sir Lee one.

I thought it as "hollow" because I pictured a big, hollow space that something could fit into. Like a prairie dog in a burrow.

Nope. Hallow, as in Halloween.

I know what everyone means, but it's one of those little things.

Now someone might have a hollow hallow ...

elrodw wrote: Now someone might have a hollow hallow ...

Depending on the spirits to which they are attuned it could even be a wholly holy hollow hallow, assuming it's allowed to be hallowed.

Rose Bunny wrote: I would LOVE it if someone wrote Razor's origin.

Somewhere there are a few of JG's old non-cannon OCC snippets, One of which does have a flash back to Razor's manifestation. I just can't remember where the thread is, though i know Sir Lee posted it... -bangs head into wall-

Cryptic wrote:

Rose Bunny wrote: I would LOVE it if someone wrote Razor's origin.

Somewhere there are a few of JG's old non-cannon OCC snippets, One of which does have a flash back to Razor's manifestation. I just can't remember where the thread is, though i know Sir Lee posted it... -bangs head into wall-

Don't bang your head into the wall, you might damage the wall.

Valentine wrote:

Cryptic wrote:

Rose Bunny wrote: I would LOVE it if someone wrote Razor's origin.

Somewhere there are a few of JG's old non-cannon OCC snippets, One of which does have a flash back to Razor's manifestation. I just can't remember where the thread is, though i know Sir Lee posted it... -bangs head into wall-

Don't bang your head into the wall, you might damage the wall.

Forget the wall. I'm more worried about the foundation. He hits hard.

NJM1564 wrote:

Valentine wrote:

Cryptic wrote:

Rose Bunny wrote: I would LOVE it if someone wrote Razor's origin.

Somewhere there are a few of JG's old non-cannon OCC snippets, One of which does have a flash back to Razor's manifestation. I just can't remember where the thread is, though i know Sir Lee posted it... -bangs head into wall-

Don't bang your head into the wall, you might damage the wall.

Forget the wall. I'm more worried about the foundation. He hits hard.

Damnit, we just fixed that! That's it! I'm reporting you, hopefully they'll give you detention fixing all the damage you just caused! Then you can go fix the sidewalk Razorback just destroyed.

Iwasforger03 wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

Valentine wrote:

Cryptic wrote:

Rose Bunny wrote: I would LOVE it if someone wrote Razor's origin.

Somewhere there are a few of JG's old non-cannon OCC snippets, One of which does have a flash back to Razor's manifestation. I just can't remember where the thread is, though i know Sir Lee posted it... -bangs head into wall-

Don't bang your head into the wall, you might damage the wall.

Forget the wall. I'm more worried about the foundation. He hits hard.

Damnit, we just fixed that! That's it! I'm reporting you, hopefully they'll give you detention fixing all the damage you just caused! Then you can go fix the sidewalk Razorback just destroyed.

Fix them? Can't we just wait until he poops them out. They should just stick back into place like that.

What the devil are you babbling about man? Razorback didn't eat the sidewalk, he just ripped it to shreds during a rager incident!

>.>
<.<
There is absolutely nothing in canon to support this. It probably belongs over in the bad ideas thread. I'm suggesting it anyways.

Misty dating Jack.

Iwasforger03 wrote: What the devil are you babbling about man? Razorback didn't eat the sidewalk, he just ripped it to shreds during a rager incident!

Tell that to the Mario Brothers.

NJM1564 wrote:

Iwasforger03 wrote: What the devil are you babbling about man? Razorback didn't eat the sidewalk, he just ripped it to shreds during a rager incident!

Tell that to the Mario Brothers.

I did, they threatened to sue, so I told them Bowser had Princess Peach. Now Bowser is apparently threatening a lawsuit because he didn't do it this time, and I'm STILL trying to get you to pay for all the damage you've done!

Iwasforger03 wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

Iwasforger03 wrote: What the devil are you babbling about man? Razorback didn't eat the sidewalk, he just ripped it to shreds during a rager incident!

Tell that to the Mario Brothers.

I did, they threatened to sue, so I told them Bowser had Princess Peach. Now Bowser is apparently threatening a lawsuit because he didn't do it this time, and I'm STILL trying to get you to pay for all the damage you've done!

Why would Bowzer be after Princess Peach?

So Razor gets hired by the Aussie Government to keep the weird things in the Outback and out of the Inback (towns).

Sounds reasonable. He'd be REALLY good at it. Best Park Ranger Australia ever could have asked for.

Ah, the stuff in Australia's Outback isn't dangerous.

We'll OK, potentially its dangerous, but it's not like snakes and spiders are gonna mount an invasion of a town now is it?

It getting rid of the feral animals most park rangers concentrate on. The camels, water buffaloes, dogs, cats, rabbits, pigs, goats, foxes, and especially, the frighten cane toads!

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Ah, the stuff in Australia's Outback isn't dangerous.

We'll OK, potentially its dangerous, but it's not like snakes and spiders are gonna mount an invasion of a town now is it?

It getting rid of the feral animals most park rangers concentrate on. The camels, water buffaloes, dogs, cats, rabbits, pigs, goats, foxes, and especially, the frighten cane toads!

Reinforce wrote: “My brother worked with the Army to keep the things that sometimes come crawling out of the sticks from getting to more populated areas. They did it as a favor to him.” Adam watched the man, whose desk name placard read: B. White.

I assumed it was the Aussies.

Reinforce wrote: He nodded. “And the rumors are true, if it isn’t cattle or a ‘roo, it’s trying to kill you.” He paused a second, “actually I’m not so sure about the Kangas and cattle.”

See, everything is trying to kill you!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_vs._the_Spider
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_the_Spiders
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachnophobia_(film)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantula_(film)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantulas:_The_Deadly_Cargo

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copperhead_(2008_film)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rattlers_(film)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vipers_(film)

Yes they do.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Ah, the stuff in Australia's Outback isn't dangerous.

We'll OK, potentially its dangerous, but it's not like snakes and spiders are gonna mount an invasion of a town now is it?

It getting rid of the feral animals most park rangers concentrate on. The camels, water buffaloes, dogs, cats, rabbits, pigs, goats, foxes, and especially, the frighten cane toads!

silly, everyone knows it's the sheep that you have to look out for...

Copperheads? Ratterlers? Pansies!

Look I'm not saying it's true that all ten of the most deadliest snakes in the world are from Australia ... OK, OK, it's more like the top nineteen, but who's counting? And the spiders! It's unfair to say that about Australian spiders! At least TWO spiders in the top ten are not from Australia. OK, so they're from the lower five, but still! Two of the top ten aren't Australian!

And not everything in Australia is trying to kill you! You want me to name something that's not? Well, OK, huntsman spiders are like some of the biggest spiders in the world, and they live in your house and stuff, but they are TOTALLY not poisonous! The ... just run fast. Very very fast. Fast enough to run down cockroaches, and are tarantula like looking and jump out at you in cars and cause accidents and stuff, but! Totally not trying to kill you!

What? A giant jumping running tarantula looking spider isn't your idea of 'not dangerous'? Even if it isn't? You want something else?

Umm ...

Ummm ...

Look, don't rush me! And no, I'm not going to go with the Terry Pratchett joke 'some of the sheep!"

Quokkas! Quokkas are cute and unthreatening and totally not trying to kill you! You can take selfies with them!

What? They're extinct on the mainland and restricted to a tiny island of the south west coast of Australia? I don't understand your point?

cassowaries... the modern day bird version of the velociraptor...

Rose Bunny wrote: cassowaries... the modern day bird version of the velociraptor...

Not trying to kill you. Not.

The cassowary is probably the evilist bird ever to set foot on earth. That things just nasty. It very definitely is trying to kill or maim you.

Koala's are pretty safe. As long as you don't look like a tree.

Or a Royal elf wannabe.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Rose Bunny wrote: cassowaries... the modern day bird version of the velociraptor...

Not trying to kill you. Not.

The cassowary is probably the evilist bird ever to set foot on earth. That things just nasty. It very definitely is trying to kill or maim you.

They're like emus with warpaint!

Just thinking

Got one better. Razorback tries out for the Hooligans!

Hooligans try outs!

Yolandria wrote: Got one better. Razorback tries out for the Hooligans!

Hooligans try outs!

Awesome!
Words cannot describe this.

You have to admit he would do well there and his smart-ass-itude would work well and he has an "in" with Caitlin, who might end up back as faculty soonish?

Razor needs a new t-shirt. shirt.woot.com/offers/be-nice-or-else?re..._gw_dly_cr#read-more

Valentine wrote: Razor needs a new t-shirt. shirt.woot.com/offers/be-nice-or-else?re..._gw_dly_cr#read-more

His shirt would have to say, Be nice or I will eat you!

Trying out new sports i see! Watersports

Yolandria wrote: Trying out new sports i see! Watersports

I am really happy to see that that image wasn't what I feared it was...

Schol-R-LEA wrote:

Yolandria wrote: Trying out new sports i see! Watersports

I am really happy to see that that image wasn't what I feared it was...

Now that you've conceived of it, it exists.

Probably on Tumblr.

True, true. Rule 34 and all. Certainly there are few characters of note who haven't had fan art involving that sort of water sports, because humans.