Question Greasy

Man, it seems that Greasy's lot in life is finally improving, isn't it?

First, one of the Venus Inc. girls (Chemtrail) is interested on him.
Then, he has a friendly Combat Final with another good-looking-but-not-gorgeous girl (Kaiju), and even gets a kiss from her.
And then, he displays the first signs of growing a notochord -- he decides to not tell Peeper about Kaiju's kiss, and even cuts Peeper off when he starts another of his sexist rants regarding Kaiju.

Give him time, and that notochord might even evolve into a spine!

Sir Lee wrote: Man, it seems that Greasy's lot in life is finally improving, isn't it?

First, one of the Venus Inc. girls (Chemtrail) is interested on him.
Then, he has a friendly Combat Final with another good-looking-but-not-gorgeous girl (Kaiju), and even gets a kiss from her.
And then, he displays the first signs of growing a notochord -- he decides to not tell Peeper about Kaiju's kiss, and even cuts Peeper off when he starts another of his sexist rants regarding Kaiju.

Give him time, and that notochord might even evolve into a spine!

Hmm... I'm expecting Greasy to die by 2008 or something, his GF mourns him, and the GreaseSkin is actually made by her, or something.

Maybe a SomeoneToRememberHimBy as well...

I guess Fractal is creeping in...

This is nothing new, this is the fourth time someone from the cabal has tried to set Greasy up on a date.

Thing is we don't know how any of those went because there is never conclusion to those plot lines.

Jarjaross wrote: This is nothing new, this is the fourth time someone from the cabal has tried to set Greasy up on a date.

Who are the other potential Greasy GFs?

I assume that one of them is Medley, from Christmas Chicanery. Chemtrail was already mentioned in this thread. Not sure who the last one is.

Also from the Christmas Chicanery is Peeper. The are implications that Greasy is gay/bisexual and has feelings for Peeper.

*snort* Implications...

How about a Harem End for Greasy, with Chemtrail + Medley + Kaiju, and Peeper is just

Get it right, Peeper would be "Minion, where are my photos!"

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Get it right, Peeper would be "Minion, where are my photos!"

Hmm... So... Peeper's a voyeur, but not a horndog? ... That actually sorta fits? Is there a more formal word for that? 'Cause asexual doesn't quite fit?

I might be missing the point, here... Or, I think I get it, I just can't express it in words?

Malady wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Get it right, Peeper would be "Minion, where are my photos!"

Hmm... So... Peeper's a voyeur, but not a horndog? ... That actually sorta fits? Is there a more formal word for that? 'Cause asexual doesn't quite fit?

I might be missing the point, here... Or, I think I get it, I just can't express it in words?

Peeping Tom?

Valentine wrote:

Malady wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Get it right, Peeper would be "Minion, where are my photos!"

Hmm... So... Peeper's a voyeur, but not a horndog? ... That actually sorta fits? Is there a more formal word for that? 'Cause asexual doesn't quite fit?

I might be missing the point, here... Or, I think I get it, I just can't express it in words?

Peeping Tom?

Mmm... Only if Peeping Toms don't want sex as much as they want to peep?

Malady wrote:

Valentine wrote:

Malady wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Get it right, Peeper would be "Minion, where are my photos!"

Hmm... So... Peeper's a voyeur, but not a horndog? ... That actually sorta fits? Is there a more formal word for that? 'Cause asexual doesn't quite fit?

I might be missing the point, here... Or, I think I get it, I just can't express it in words?

Peeping Tom?

Mmm... Only if Peeping Toms don't want sex as much as they want to peep?

I don't recall any indications, in Canon, that Peeper wants to go any further than peeping and/or trying to make money from the results of the peeping, i.e making posters of the photos he acquires and selling them. Indeed, given his cowardly nature, it might be interesting to see his reactions should one of the girls ever offer to take him up on one of his sexual innuendoes.

John.

What about when he groped Ayla's breasts? I would think that's going a bit beyond peeping...

Quite a bit as been made about Peeper and Greasy in their relationship. People wonder how Greasy can tolerate Peeper without having some kind of sexual fixation on him. Keep in mind that however normal Greasy looks now, thanks to his invention of his spray on skin, don't forget that underneath it he looks something like this:



That anyone will even talk to him is more than he can believe, and unfortunately in his own mind at least more than he thinks he deserves. Peeper on the other hand, has enough self-esteem for five people and is also a product of his upbringing because of parents desperate not to do damage to their special snowflakes' self-esteem. Or, as Robert Duvall brilliantly put it in Secondhand Lions, "Ever since this boy was sucking on his mama's tit he's been given everything but discipline. ""

E. E. Nalley wrote: Snip.

This is very illuminating. (I've been reading too much "bright" religious stuff...) ... In other news, Peeper sees Greasy that way all the time, right? 'Cause of his Peeper-Vision?

Never really thought of it that way. Thanks E.E.

Malady wrote:

E. E. Nalley wrote: Snip.

This is very illuminating. (I've been reading too much "bright" religious stuff...) ... In other news, Peeper sees Greasy that way all the time, right? 'Cause of his Peeper-Vision?

Peeper's one of the few people who can't see him that way. Hair, sweat, grease, clothing, etc., if it's not x-ray reflective or opaque vs. background, peeper cannot see it. He does know where all your piercings are, and maybe your dental work if you smile wide enough. People with eyes are creepy to him, because now he only sees them if they are prosthetic eyeballs.

Now for some of the rest of the story.

In "The Banshee's Tale" we find out that the motor oil -like substance is a replacement for mucus. That's right, Greasy has mucous membranes over his entire body. No sweat glands. His hair likely won't come back (That's right. No shaving needed, no beard abrasions.) I suspect the doctors will quickly realize that a complete shut-off of the mucus generation will soon allow those membranes to dry out, crack, and bleed. Then there's the consequences of having been sealed off from most aerobic dermal pathogens for the past couple of years: food, water, and respiratory vectors wouldn't have been affected, but someone's health is due for a short downturn.

All those things are treatable, but it's not all wine and roses from here on out.

Poor Greasy

And Null, if that was true, Peeper couldn't see photographs or actually enjoy seeing through the clothing of every woman on campus (prior to Nikki's charms). So obviously he can see skin, etc.

Iwasforger03 wrote: Poor Greasy

And Null, if that was true, Peeper couldn't see photographs or actually enjoy seeing through the clothing of every woman on campus (prior to Nikki's charms). So obviously he can see skin, etc.

Peeper can't see what's in the photographs. Nor does a laptop screen do him any good except for the one specifically made for him by Phase.

If the visible light photons reflected by clothing that you see were visible to him, he'd be no more capable of seeing the skin beneath it than you are.

That assumes his vision is actually x-ray vision. It's actually some kind of Esper thing. It's NOT really X-ray vision, it just has a lot of the same properties. Again, if he can see through skin, why do women even look attractive to him? The implication is he can't turn it off (or he wouldn't need a special computer screen). He CAN see through clothes and enjoy the nudity beneath, which means it can't work the way you describe.

Peeper can only see through thin layers of material. In one of the stories he mentions that he can't see through walls. The reason that computer worked for him was a thick covering on the screen that he would "see through" and then he would see the actual screen. If it was x-ray vision he wouldn't be seeing the illusions Fey cast on the amulets, or the holograms Bunny is using.

Iwasforger03 wrote: That assumes his vision is actually x-ray vision. It's actually some kind of Esper thing. It's NOT really X-ray vision, it just has a lot of the same properties. Again, if he can see through skin, why do women even look attractive to him? The implication is he can't turn it off (or he wouldn't need a special computer screen). He CAN see through clothes and enjoy the nudity beneath, which means it can't work the way you describe.

Please read what I wrote before complaining about my description. I did NOT say that Peeper can see through skin.

If the visible light photons reflected by clothing that you see were visible to him, he'd be no more capable of seeing the skin beneath it than you are.

Yeah, you basically did.

Iwasforger03 wrote:

If the visible light photons reflected by clothing that you see were visible to him, he'd be no more capable of seeing the skin beneath it than you are.

Yeah, you basically did.

How do you get "sees THROUGH skin" from that?

Your phrasing is apparently at odds with your intent.

What you said was that If the light reflecting from clothing, which makes it visible to folks who can see, was visible to Peeper, he couldn't see through skin either.

Therefore, because your statement is speaking of a hypothetical "he can see clothing" and throws in "then he can see skin," the fact you imply this is NOT what happens means you imply he DOES see through skin. If this was NOT your intention, the issue is with your phrasing.

Okay, moderating here. Knock off the arguing before it gets out of control.

You have been warned.

Understood.

Well, at least he got a date with a girl who cares.

Iwasforger03 wrote: Understood.

Well, at least he got a date with a girl who cares.

Indeed! And this isn't the last we'll see of Greasy by any stretch. Especially with...

I'm going to just give you the line I think you want.

With...?

With what? Peeper getting expelled? Greasy joining AJG Inc.? The pregnancy nobody saw coming? Tansy spending a third of her free time making sure the two of them don't break up?

It backfiring medically, and Nikki and Kayda working together to fix Kodiak's meddling!?

I mean, isn't there a reason that he's a psychologist in Gen 2 and not in Doyle doing double shifts?

Iwasforger03 wrote: I'm going to just give you the line I think you want.

With...?

With what? Peeper getting expelled? Greasy joining AJG Inc.? The pregnancy nobody saw coming? Tansy spending a third of her free time making sure the two of them don't break up?

I kind of doubt that Greasy got involved with AJG Inc. considering we know he is selling is artificial skin with the advertising "It Works!" Ayla would have had a high end advertising team come up with a better slogan.

Iwasforger03 wrote: I'm going to just give you the line I think you want.

With...?

With what? Peeper getting expelled? Greasy joining AJG Inc.? The pregnancy nobody saw coming? Tansy spending a third of her free time making sure the two of them don't break up?

Yes...