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6 years 9 months ago #1 by Anne
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    • I feel like it should be easier to search your site. I really do. I hate asking, and I hate complaining more. Yet every time I search for an older story I cannot find it. Not once, not any time. Your search function has utterly frustrated me. I ask and people can point me to what I want to find, but I CANNOT find it myself! This makes me not want to use the site. BUT! I love the stories. I want to read them here. I'd like a simple title search, but if it is available it is hidden from my SHITTY computer skills. I Know you are all frustrated with me and about to block me from the forum. Again I hate complaining. I don't want to complain. I want to find what I want without spending an hour paging through stories. I hate to have a complete story pop up and I don't know what the FUCK I did, nor can I get back where I came from without apparently going back to the beginning of the list. So, if a title search is actually available, please please please, make it so it is easy to see. Add it to the first point on your FAQ. Make it so I don't have to ask, so I can feel like I'm not irritating you all. I don't want to irritate you. I really do want to support you and keep saying Good Job, I love the site. Unfortunately I am unable to do so now.:( :-( :sad:
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    6 years 9 months ago #2 by Malady
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    6 years 9 months ago #3 by Anne
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    • Yesterday I was searching for Kodiak in Winter, Today I was searching for The Secret of the Forger's List. I searched for those but I get walls of parts of stories where they come up. Not even the stories with the title that contained the phrase.
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    6 years 9 months ago #4 by null0trooper
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    • The last time you posted, I replied that Google's search function will normally put the desired story in the top one or two items listed without having to go paging through the forum or its search function.
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    6 years 9 months ago - 6 years 9 months ago #5 by Malady
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    • Ah... Well, the Lists of Stories now has a search menu, it's collapsed under the wide, grey Search button, so you have to click on it to open it, as it's not open when the page loads.

    I think it's a new feature? ... The open / close chevron at the left side, could be a bit higher contrast?

    Personally, I thought that was just a header, until my screen loaded slowly enough that it appeared open before it closed, and I thought to investigate.

    Here's the search for the Forger series: whateleyacademy.net/index.php/content_pa...10912fd48374c8be7013
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    6 years 9 months ago #6 by Arcanist Lupus
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    • Yeah, the search bar at the top of the site doesn't have a very good algorithm.

    Does anybody use that search bar? Or could we remove it and/or replace it with something else? Unless someone is getting significant use out of it, I'm inclined to think that having no main site search feature is better than having a frustrating one.

    If we were to replace it, I would suggest replacing it with a link to the Wiki. The Wiki's search is pretty good (I should hope so - that's basically it's purpose for existing), and it maintains pages for all the stories with links to those stories. That makes finding a story you are looking for through the wiki pretty simple. Directing people offsite to reach stories onsite isn't the prettiest solution, but it does work.
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    6 years 9 months ago - 6 years 9 months ago #7 by Kristin Darken
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    Most problems are not caused by the search engine algorithm. It's a result of trying to give the search engine an incorrect title. In this particular case, for instance... searching for "The Secret of Forger's List" will give zero results. Why? Because you've given the system a long series of words and it is trying to find something that matches the whole sequence. And there IS NO title... or place anywhere in the index of phrases that this combination of five words shows up in this order. Because the title is actually "The Secret of THE Forger's List" ... On the other hand... if you had searched for just the word Forger. You would have found five stories. One Imp story that references forging paintings and four chapters of the piece you were searching for.

    Don't overthink it. Don't assume you have the right words in your title (This is why you couldn't find Kodiak also, if you remember right). Also... yes, the SORT order kinda sucks if you get a lot of hits. and there isn't an option for 'most relevant to search terms' ... but there ARE other options. You can sort the search results by title alphabetically... going through a couple dozen stories to find the right title is a hell of a lot faster than scanning through all 700 or so.
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    • Arcanist Lupus wrote: Yeah, the search bar at the top of the site doesn't have a very good algorithm.

    ya... no.

    the old search bar had problems because we had disabled the indexing system because it wasn't designed to support 12 million words of text. so the only thing it could search through was the tag system. This one... is the basic version of the one that folds out at the top of the stories page. It doesn't give you sorting options and it gives you the results in a different format... but its the same search engine.
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    6 years 9 months ago #9 by Arcanist Lupus
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    • Kristin Darken wrote:

    Arcanist Lupus wrote: Yeah, the search bar at the top of the site doesn't have a very good algorithm.

    ya... no.

    the old search bar had problems because we had disabled the indexing system because it wasn't designed to support 12 million words of text. so the only thing it could search through was the tag system. This one... is the basic version of the one that folds out at the top of the stories page. It doesn't give you sorting options and it gives you the results in a different format... but its the same search engine.


    I stand by my assertion. Result prioritization is part of what defines a search algorithm. An algorithm that doesn't prioritize the results by relevance is therefore inferior. On the bright side, searching is faster this way. :D

    Also, when I try and change the sorting order, it stops showing results.

    Finally, when I searched on Kodiak Winter in the ever-present search bar, it returns 50 results, but when I search using the grey dropdown I don't get any. I can't tell what, if anything, I'm doing differently between them.

    On an interesting, but not particularly relevant note, when I google The Secret of Forger's List (no 'the'), I get a link to the wiki article as the first result, and no link at all the story. When I google The Secret of the Forger's List, I do get a link to the story, but as the second item, below the wiki link. Not sure what causes this, but I found it interesting!
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    6 years 9 months ago #10 by Kristin Darken
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    • I'm not going to disagree with you about the relevance issue... but my point was, its the same search engine software doing both searches (same algorithm). Supposedly. That's the way I set it up anyway. The only difference is one is 'basic' mode and the other allows for sorting options and filters.

    The way the search engine will work best is if we enter keywords into it for every story. It does this to some degree by default when we add tags... so once I finish adding tags to everything, it will work better. But ideally, in addition to adding tags to every story in the collection, someone should be adding meta data to all of them. ie a summary, keywords, etc. This wouldn't take forever to do if we were doing it for every story as its added to the site... but you know... going in and adding all that stuff for 13 years of stories... is a pretty big job. About 5-10 times more involved than tags.
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    6 years 9 months ago - 6 years 9 months ago #11 by Sir Lee
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    • While I see that Kristin is doing the best she can with the available modules, I get some of the criticism with the search engine. "The Kodiak in Winter" shows very well its limitations.
    Here's what I got with various combinations:

    "Kodiak" -> 11 pages of results
    "Winter" -> 21 pages of results
    "Kodiak Winter" -> 0 results
    "Kodiak in the Winter" -> 0 results
    "Kodiak in Winter -> 1 result

    That is, the only reasonably useful result comes from searching for the exact string. The engine is not smart enough to understand "includes all keywords" and does not prioritize words in the title.

    There are other stories that would be troublesome to find. I mean, consider "The Bad Seeds" (74 results) or "Whisper" (218 results)
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    6 years 9 months ago #12 by Kristin Darken
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    • Let me put it from this perspective... you realize there was NO search tool at all on the old site, right? That, until I copied and converted the table from WIKI, that there was no sortable means of looking at the story list. No table of titles at all... just a long page of blurbs with links after them. It looked like:

    Enter The Chaka

    By Bek D. Corbin

    She has the strength of Arnold Schwartzeneggar, the reflexes of Jet Li, the beauty of Halle Berry and the common sense of Lizzie MacGwuire! Toni 'Chaka' Chandler could be a great superhero- IF she can pass High School English!

    Part 1

    Fey

    By Maggie Finson

    Nikki Riley. Georgeous, Magically talented, The very image of a Fairie Princess. What's the problem with that? She's a guy!

    Part 1

    Coming Out

    By Babs Yerunkle

    Jared finally found a way to fight back against his abusive father. Jinn was a projection of his inner self, but why was Jade a girl? And... Was Jared, now calling himself Jade, EVER going to start growing up?

    Complete

    Away from Home

    By Babs Yerunkle

    Jared can summon a ghostly spirit: Himself. If you think that's confusing, imagine how Jared feels! He's beside himself. But an even bigger question is: Why is the spirit female?

    Complete

    Unexpected Consequences

    By Starwolf

    Billy ate the brownie his brother offered. Not a good idea. What followed was a wild mess of transformation, kidnapping, escapes, mass destruction, and hiding out. Also, what's a teenaged boy doing having a period?!

    Part 1

    Ayla and the Late Trevor James Goodkind NEW!

    By Diane Castle

    Trevor James Goodkind has spent his entire life being groomed as a scion of the Goodkind empire. He has devoted his life to Goodkind ideals: responsibility, respect, and protecting the world from mutants. Now he's about to meet the enemy.. and it's him. But turning into a mutant is only his first catastrophe. No one ever said anything about having to wear a bra!

    Part 1

    Welcome to Poe

    by Babs Yerunkle, Bek D. Corvin, ScramblerJ, Starwolf and Maggie Finson

    Well, you've all met the girls, and Hank, plus some rather interesting characters along the way. But how did things go when Team Kimba first met each other?

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    Another Day

    By Starwolf

    Billie keeps learning more and more about her strange powers as Tennyo. As she begins to move through the twisted maze of Whateley's Student Services. And that's just to go back to the station to get her luggage.

    Complete

    Quoth The Ninja, Nevermore!

    By Maggie Finson, Bek D Corbin, Babs Yerunkle and Starwolf

    The kids are finally settled into their rooms in Poe Cottage and are planning a good night's sleep before the start of classes the next day. Then a bunch of black clad burglars steal the bust of Edgar Allen Poe, the cottage's namesake. Who needs sleep? The honor of Poe Cottage is at stake!

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    First Assembly

    By Babs Yerunkle, Bek D. Corvin, ScramblerJ, Starwolf and Maggie Finson

    The kids have battled their own differences, ninjas in the dead of night, but now comes the truly difficult task for them...
    The dreaded First Assembly for students.

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    PMS and Other Problems

    By Maggie Finson

    Ninjas in the dead of night? Nothing. First day of classes at Whateley? Scary. Especially while Nikki is feeling more than a bit under the weather. A Faerie mage with PMS...uh, oh. RUN!!

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    Ayla and the Blackmailer

    By Diane Castle

    Ayla's at Whateley, doing all the things that kids always do at the start of school. Struggling to get a good class schedule. Ugh. Walking into the girls' shower room. Wow. Getting extortion notes. Uh-oh. Fighting super-powered ninjas? Yikes!
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    Adjustments

    By Maggie Finson

    Now that Nikki - AKA Fey - has gone through a rather rapid switch in directions for puberty... The changes she's gone through are going to take a bit of geting used to. Not only for Nikki but for those around her. Also, what's this nonsense about THE QUEEN TO COME?

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    First Day and Other Interesting Things

    By Starwolf

    Tennyo's first days of school are as interesting as one might expect for someone so -- umm -- unique for even a place like Whateley. Flying lessons for one thing. And those tests are a real bear.

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    Chaka - Duel Damsel

    By Bek D. Corbin

    Never one to let a friend get shafted without a fight, Toni 'Chaka' Chandler rises to the occasion and issues a challenge! Now she has a problem, a big HAIRY problem. Well, Chaka's put her foot in it again and she learns a few painful lesson.

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    Being a Girl

    By Babs Yerunkle

    "Jade" is now dressing as a girl full time. Can she pass while living in a dorm with other girls? As if that wasn't enough of a challenge, she needs to get a job, learn to be a mutant, and cope with horrors from beyond. It isn't easy, being a girl.

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    A Simple Game

    By Dr. Bender

    Michael Waite, last scion of the Waite family line and a successful writer of horror stories inspired by his grandfather's book collection, feels his body crumbling under the collective weight of his ancestors decrepid genes. However, the secret history of his family and a conspiracy of foresighted mutants are about to change his destiny.

    Part 1

    Catgirl Madness

    By Heather O'Malley

    Corey prided himself on his body. He had won the bodybuilding competition for his state. Everything was going great in his life. He didn't even have to hit his girlfriend all that much. But then one night he kicked the wrong cat in his dreams.

    Complete

    It's Nice to Have Friends

    By Starwolf

    Bille discovers that having friends is probably the best thing that could happen to a girl. Especially when the girl is strange as she is. And things are going to get stranger really soon.

    Complete

    Bottle a Jinn

    By Babs Yerunkle

    Jade dies. At least, she's pretty sure she died. Her spirit-self has vanished and doesn't seem to exist any more. Meanwhile, the group of rich, snobby, good-looking mutants collectively known as "The Alphas" are creating new schemes to enrich themselves at the expense of others. Could there be a connection? And also, just how sweet will revenge be?

    Complete

    It's Good to Be the Don

    by Bek D. Corbin

    Some people have it made- great powers, good looks, popularity, power, and a fun crowd to hang out with. So, a day in the life of Don Sebastiano--- with complications.

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    Toni and the Tiger

    By Bek D. Corbin

    Toni 'Chaka' Chandler is being Hunted- by a beast that knows no mercy, no compassion and no restraint.Why is she being hunted? Why is this beast coming between her and her new love? What savage fury has Toni unwittingly unleashed?

    Complete

    Transfer Students

    By E.E.Nalley

    Every Family has problems. Every family has friends who makes those problems even stranger. For Lily Turner, growing up had been a surreal experince, trying to keep her parents, the Super Hero team, S.T.A.R. League's identity a secret from all except her closest friends, the children of her parent's team mates. But trying her hand in the family business gets her a one way ticket straight to Whateley Acedemy!

    Complete

    Revenge of the Alphas

    By Maggie Finson, Bek D. Corbin, Starwolf. Babs Yerunkle and Dr. Bender

    The Alpha Clique at Whateley took a real hit, in more ways than one during the fight with Team Kimba in front of Schuster Hall. Losing an open fight in front of the school was bad enough, but to a bunch of freshmen? Then there was the matter of Alpha's doing DETENTION. An affront to the Alpha dignity like that couldn't go unanswered.

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    Redefining Jade

    By Babs Yerunkle

    Jade has been passing as a female for a month now and she's desperate to become a REAL girl. But in a school as dangerous as Whateley, survival needs to be her top priority. It's time for Jade to take a good look at herself and decide exactly what kind of person she wants to be when she grows up.

    Complete

    Destiny's Wave

    By Heather O'Malley

    Alex collected swords of all kinds and he thought the Chinese style blade he saw at a Gun and Knife show would make a fine addition to that collection. It seems the sword came with responsibilites and enemies, not to mention some rather strange friends. Oh, it also changed Alex to fit it's own ideas of what it's wielder should be.

    Complete

    Tea and Synergy

    By Bek D. Corbin

    It isn't easy, being a student at Whateley Academy for mutant; but can you imagine what being a TEACHER there is like? Listen in, as a group of teachers discuss a particularly problematic group of girls (and one rather bemused boy).

    Complete

    Time for an Unexpected Gift

    By Hart

    Not all talents are obvious, not all powers are useful and not all gifts are created equal. But you never know what might come of things if enough time is spent discovering their true potential.

    Complete

    Time for an Unexpected Gift: Epilogue

    By Babs Yerunkle and Hart

    What HAPPENED after that accident? What is going on? The rest of that day is here, now.

    Complete

    Eat, Drink and Be Merry

    By Renae

    Chad had lived a very repressed life up to now. His parents and strict religious upbringing allowed for very little in the way of entertaininment for the kid. So he quite naturally turned to the 'harmless' pastimes offered by his computer.
    Things got livelier really fast after that, as Chad becomes Merry and makes some interesting friends and enemies.

    Complete

    Blade Dancing

    by Heather O'Malley

    Chou is trying to get used to her classes and the way things work at Whateley. Team Kimba is proving to be very helpful and have welcomed her with open arms. This means she also gets their enemies. Add to this a cute girl with glasses that she can't stop thinking about, a guy convinced that the sword belongs to him and one of the more otherworldly denizens of the Dunwich area and you have a wonderful welcome to the school.

    Complete

    Boston Brawl

    By Dr. Bender

    ARE YOU READY TO RUUUUMBLE? 'Cause the glorious Team Kimba surely is. It’s amazing how hard just a single disastrous event can be on clothes, leaving Fey and Chaka rearing to clear out Boston’s bastions of commerce, dragging the rest of the team out for a day of what the girls do best: SHOPPING! Of course, when your wallet’s underfed and your bankbook’s anorexic, there isn’t too much a girl can do on a shopping spree. But maybe a bank robbery, a double-cross and a rampaging pack of sadistic super-villains will make life interesting…

    Complete

    Merry Meet, Merry Part and Merry Meet Again

    By Renae

    With a special thanks to Kristin Darken, Babs Yerunkle & Hart, without whom there would have been a long delay for editing and getting this piece out.
    (Authors note: Some of the dates were off track in Merry #1. With luck that should not happen too much. Sorry, I missed it on the edit :} Mea Culpa).

    Complete

    Reflections In An Evil Eye

    By Bek D. Corbin

    Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time. Along with the rest of Team Kimba, Chaka is ready to do her Detention at the infamous Hawthorne Cottage. But what plans does the sinister Sahar have for our resident mistress of Ki?

    Complete

    Insanity Prerequisite

    By Dr. Bender

    Beauty is only skin deep, yet snakes shed their skins regularly. Confusing as it is for Sara Waite, a twisted path is laid at her feet, chaos and madness demanding their dues to either side. Infinite power may be up for grabs, but can Sara meet the prerequisite and keep her soul intact at the same time?

    Part 1: Status Quo, Part 2: Destabilization, Part 3: Metamorphosis


    And there were 'author' pages in which the same sort of long collection of the above, but just for those authors.


    So... while I can understand that people see a search engine and expect Google performance and don't get it and are frustrated by that... but for gods sake people, its a free web site. Quality search engines require more computational power and database performance. Right now, the search engines are indexed to the articles. Not the titles or the author names... but the TEXT of the articles. That means, if you want to find something based on something that is mentioned several times in the story, the search engine is your best bet. Except that 'most' of the time, I'm finding, the query takes too long and Joomla reports a time out error message. Meaning, we're already experiencing evidence of needing more server power (which costs more, remember).

    Could I restrict the search engines to just retrieving story titles? Possibly. It seems a waste of a utility though... because is simply isn't that hard to look at a sortable list of stories that you can filter by author name or sort by title alphabetically, or release date. Especially when you're also going to have the ability to search and filter by Tags at some near point in the future.

    Most of the time that I hear people are having problems finding something... they're trying to use the Tag cloud or are looking at the sidebar lists. They don't realize that the entire collection is listed in table format in the appropriate part of the site.
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    6 years 9 months ago #13 by elrodw
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    • I really don't like to see frustrated readers, so I will make a one-time offer to you, Anne. If you are looking for a story, from experience, I can find it quickly and get you a direct link via the site's messaging. Send me a PM of stories you are looking for - up to 6 - and I'll return a PM with links. This should help you get going on reading while you learn to navigate the system's search features and while Kristin and company work on completing the tagging system.

    One time, up to 6 stories. Send a PM and I'll give you a helping hand.
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    6 years 9 months ago #14 by Anne
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    • Things seem to be working slightly better if I can think up a key word like Kodiak and as long as I don't try to use any advanced options. At least when I searched Kodiak I found 40 stories and there among them were the ones I wanted to read. I don't believe I forgot that you gave us Jennifer Kelly in the Kodiak conspiracy, and then we all went haring off in a different direction when we met her again in Gen 2.
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    • elrodw wrote: I really don't like to see frustrated readers, so I will make a one-time offer to you, Anne. If you are looking for a story, from experience, I can find it quickly and get you a direct link via the site's messaging. Send me a PM of stories you are looking for - up to 6 - and I'll return a PM with links. This should help you get going on reading while you learn to navigate the system's search features and while Kristin and company work on completing the tagging system.

    One time, up to 6 stories. Send a PM and I'll give you a helping hand.


    I will make the same offer, and as a bonus, since I have more spare time than Elrod, I will even try to find a story that contains a scene that you remember, but can't remember which story it came out of.
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    6 years 9 months ago - 6 years 9 months ago #16 by E M Pisek
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    • The problem as I see it, and not to make jabs at anyone, or this sites capability, but really look at how we've evolved over the internet years concerning search engines.

    We are spoiled rotten by the likes of Google, Yahoo and Microsoft's search capabilities. Sure we can bicker about which is better, but when you really look at it as Kristin said, it has to do with the amount of algorithms as with computing power placed behind it to search through tons of letters, words and sentences. Hence when you come to a small site such as this with its own, it feels like going from a rocket to a trike with only three wheels and ones missing.

    Unless your able to afford to latch onto some of that power. It all comes down to cost.

    Now I'm sure as Kristen said, more time can be devoted to its capabilities, but how about that time. I'm not going to dredge up old input, look it up throughout the forums. Enough has been said on it.

    Personally, I've found that it just takes a bit of reckoning on how one searches. Many go through tried and true steps to get results, but that's when your going through the likes of Google and such. It takes one to go outside the perimeters on how to find things as with having the one thing that many don't want to develop or care for. Patience. Many want 'instant' results with little effort. So when someone can't find something the old way, they get frustrated and then 'complain' (and no I'm not picking on the creator of this thread here really, for its universal.) about not finding results. I can say this as with any other site that I've gone to, to use their search engine. Yes, I'll dig at Fictionmania as if you look in their forum there's those that constantly ask for help, but then when you read some of what their asking, its very vague and I'm surprised at how well Sir Lee is able to help them at his wont.

    But anyway this site is not as massive when it comes to stories, and no I'm not complaining, for this site is dedicated to one specific universe whereas the likes of BC, Fictionmania and others contain massive varieties of different genres.

    I'm sure that more could be done, if given time, money and effort when available, but the overall line is that those that are working are the ones who are also contributing to writing stories as with 'volunteers' who are working diligently to keep up with the changes as many (I'm sure) are not in the know of whats coming down the pipe in many respects and in doing so, must adjust accordingly.

    So, for some I want to thank you for helping those that do have a bit of problem navigating for stories and to others thanks for your efforts in keeping track of what's produce. But overall, I feel that its up to the searcher to be a bit more understanding on what is available unless they are able to provide the necessary funds to incorporate a better tool than what is available. No its not a dig, but when your only able to afford a compact and not a Porsche then you do the best in what you have. (bad analogy I'm sure), but I've learned to be a bit more patient on some things as I've aged. I'm not a good wine, but I'm not vinegar either.
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    6 years 9 months ago #17 by Anne
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    • Oh I admit I 'm far too much whine :P I'll do my ask outright from now on rather than complain about the search function of the site.
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    • Just remember that if you hit a snag, people here will help. Don't beat your head against a wall too long; if you ask for help, someone will show you the door in the adjoining wall.
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    6 years 9 months ago #19 by Astrodragon
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    • elrodw wrote: Just remember that if you hit a snag, people here will help. Don't beat your head against a wall too long; if you ask for help, someone will show you the door in the adjoining wall.


    Actually at Whateley we're more likely to point you at the large hole in the adjoining wall :D
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    6 years 9 months ago #20 by Valentine
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    • Astrodragon wrote:

    elrodw wrote: Just remember that if you hit a snag, people here will help. Don't beat your head against a wall too long; if you ask for help, someone will show you the door in the adjoining wall.


    Actually at Whateley we're more likely to point you at the large hole in the adjoining wall :D


    The hole is from where we've beaten our head through the wall.
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    6 years 9 months ago #21 by Kristin Darken
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    • Yes, and every time you put a hole in the wall it lets the muses get out. I mean, its ok... our muses DO come back, so its not like we worry about them leaving for a bit. But they come back with more alcohol and after having gone on fast food binges and watching the stupidist movies they can find. So getting them back on track on things we actually want to work on? It's insanity...
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    6 years 9 months ago #22 by DanZilla
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    • my secret... I use the wiki to find stories and jump to them on this site. Not always... but it's worked better for me than any other method of searching.

    Now, having said that. If I'm looking through several stories by the same author I'll just go to stories and have it list all of theirs that way.
    6 years 9 months ago #23 by Arcanist Lupus
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    • DanZilla wrote: Now, having said that. If I'm looking through several stories by the same author I'll just go to stories and have it list all of theirs that way.

    Which mostly works, but there are a couple of authors who have used multiple different names. Elrod has one story under "ElrodW" (which doesn't actually matter, because 'Elrod' will return both), and JG has stories under both 'JG' and 'Joe Gunnarson'
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    6 years 9 months ago - 6 years 9 months ago #24 by Phoenix Spiritus
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    • Arcanist Lupus wrote:

    DanZilla wrote: Now, having said that. If I'm looking through several stories by the same author I'll just go to stories and have it list all of theirs that way.

    Which mostly works, but there are a couple of authors who have used multiple different names. Elrod has one story under "ElrodW" (which doesn't actually matter, because 'Elrod' will return both), and JG has stories under both 'JG' and 'Joe Gunnarson'


    Tell us the stories with the issues and we'll fix them.

    Usually things like this are us fixing other things that then breaks something else we didn't expect.
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    6 years 9 months ago - 6 years 9 months ago #25 by Malady
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    • ^ Well, the Original Timeline Search has the Search by Author box, so you can find the "JG"-s and "Elrod"-s simple that way.

    From the first page of Elrod results, it seems that Elrod is massively more common than ElrodW., the latter of which whose only story is Intervention .

    The JG results are Murphy's Laws of Whateley , Blood-Sister, Blood-Brother , and Siblings & Savages Chapters 1 and 3 ...

    And I just listed everything... *Sigh*
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    • And I just fixed everything listed.
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