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Rather than hunt through all the Ayla stories, I figured someone here would have the answer very quickly. Where did Ayla go to school prior to Chilton? Is it mentioned anywhere what school Tansy tormented him at, or wasn't that specified? I seem to recall that it was at some school (the one where he wanted to stage a strike over bad cafeteria food)?

Montessori school? ... Googled this site, "Chilton", and "Ayla" and got this:

whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-t...irthday-brawl-chap-2

Back before I went to Montessori school

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Although, Jadis and Mal were there too, so it's sorta weird that they never said anything about Tansy, if she was with them... Or maybe they just say stuff off-screen? ... But, its Gracie who remembers it, so Jadis and Mal might have forgotten like Ayla did.

whateleyacademy.net/index.php/stories/138-parents-day

There were a couple...

from Ayla and the Networks

I thought it over for a second, and a simple solution presented itself. “Wait, you all know I’ve babbled on and on more than once about Franklin Academy and Westchester Montessori. Right?”

“Right.”

“Way too often,” supplied a smart-ass in a hammock.

“Thanks Toni, I love you too,” I replied. “Chou? Pull up your laptop, go to the web archives of the New York Times, and search for stories with the keywords ‘Diabolik’ and ‘Benjamin Franklin Academy’. When we were little kids, someone ratted them out and they were all over the newspapers for a week.”

Damn, there are too many fast people.

It's also in Afternoon Tea With the Devil

Westchester Montessori is the school he attended with Jadis and her brother.

DanZilla wrote: from Ayla and the Networks

I thought it over for a second, and a simple solution presented itself. “Wait, you all know I’ve babbled on and on more than once about Franklin Academy and Westchester Montessori. Right?”

So, how are Franklin Academy and Westchester Montessori, related?

Although, as Phoenix Spiritus says:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Westchester Montessori is the school he attended with Jadis and her brother.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Damn, there are too many fast people.

It's also in Afternoon Tea With the Devil

Westchester Montessori is the school he attended with Jadis and her brother.

One of the two.

She wasn’t just throwing out a bit of trivia that only Trevor would know; she was pulling that tidbit out of her memory in the way that only an Exemplar - and an Exemplar who’d been trained in the rigorous near-Jesuit standards of the Montessori and Franklin schools - could manage.

From "Ayla 3: Ayla and the New School"

Oh yeah. I was a third grader at the time.

But how had everyone else - all the parents and teachers and school administrators - not figured this out? Or was that why Jadis and Mal had to leave Franklin Academy?

Ayla and the new school say Franklin Acadamey was the school Jadis and her brother got outed from, Afternoon tea with the Devil says Westchester Montessori.

Maybe we can ask Bek to clear it up?

I'm more interested in where Tansy would have bullied Ayla.

elrodw wrote: I'm more interested in where Tansy would have bullied Ayla.

Isn't it that Tansy bullies Ayla now 'cause Ayla is/was the brother of Heather and Connie? ... Did Tansy never meet Ayla until Whateley?

Where was it mentioned that they met before Whateley?

Ah. Praise the Wiki for noting her mentions! ... Or at least noting her parents' mentions... Gotta beef up the Tansy - History section:

whateleyacademy.net/index.php/content-me...revor-james-goodkind

That sow Tansy Walcutt, in particular, has been out to get me since about second grade.

Malady wrote:

elrodw wrote: I'm more interested in where Tansy would have bullied Ayla.

Isn't it that Tansy bullies Ayla now 'cause Ayla is/was the brother of Heather and Connie? ... Did Tansy never meet Ayla until Whateley?

Where was it mentioned that they met before Whateley?

Ayla mentions that Tansy had been picking on him since at least 2nd grade (Franklin) in a couple of places.

He really rides down Memory of Bullies Lane in "Ayla and the Late Trevor James Goodkind". The bullying could have continued at Chilton (grades 7-12) but she manifested as a mutant "a couple years ago, and her parents had to hide her away somewhere."

I think that the natural sequence would be, Westchester Montessori (elementary), Franklin Academy (middle) and Chilton (high school). But Trevor had already spent at least one year at Chilton, so it doesn't quite work.

Alternative explanations: the Goodkinds pulled Trevor from W.M. and transferred him into Franklin when the whole thing with having the kids of Dr. Diabolik studying there. So he started elementary in W.M. and finished it at Franklin.

Second possibilit: Franklin is a local school, Chilton is a boarding prep school. Perhaps Chilton does not offer the full middle/JH course, only 7th grade onwards, because they don't want to deal with kids younger than 12.

So you might postulate that Trevor studied on W.M. until third grade, transferred to Franklin after the Diabolik brouhaha, studied at Franklin for grades 4-6, and then was sent away to Chilton on 7th grade.

@ null0trooper - protip: Keep a tab of the original thread open when you're typing out a reply that takes a while, and refresh when you're done the reply, but before posting, to check for being ninja'd.

P.S: Make a txt just to hold things incase of DataVampires.

Sir Lee wrote: I think that the natural sequence would be, Westchester Montessori (elementary), Franklin Academy (middle) and Chilton (high school). But Trevor had already spent at least one year at Chilton, so it doesn't quite work.

Alternative explanations: the Goodkinds pulled Trevor from W.M. and transferred him into Franklin when the whole thing with having the kids of Dr. Diabolik studying there. So he started elementary in W.M. and finished it at Franklin.

Second possibilit: Franklin is a local school, Chilton is a boarding prep school. Perhaps Chilton does not offer the full middle/JH course, only 7th grade onwards, because they don't want to deal with kids younger than 12.

So you might postulate that Trevor studied on W.M. until third grade, transferred to Franklin after the Diabolik brouhaha, studied at Franklin for grades 4-6, and then was sent away to Chilton on 7th grade.

As Elementary, Middle, and High Schools aren't as standardized in the US as it may seem. Your timeline may work, if Chilton runs Grades 8-12. Although that doesn't fix the Diaboliks going to both Franklin and Monessori in various stories.

Google to the rescue: Montessori is a style of education en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montessori_education . So likely the Benjamin Franklin School is a Montessori style of education school and Ayla uses the school name and style of education interchangeably.

Except that he sometimes mentions both in the same sentence, suggesting that they are distinct entities.

Valentine wrote: Google to the rescue: Montessori is a style of education en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montessori_education . So likely the Benjamin Franklin School is a Montessori style of education school and Ayla uses the school name and style of education interchangeably.

Well, yes... But that wouldn't explain him using both names to possibly reference two different things in the same sentence, as Danzilla's quote says... Unless "Westchester Montessori" is the style of Montessori that Franklin Academy uses or something?

DanZilla wrote: There were a couple...

from Ayla and the Networks

I thought it over for a second, and a simple solution presented itself. “Wait, you all know I’ve babbled on and on more than once about Franklin Academy and Westchester Montessori. Right?”

... And I got ninja'd right on the post after my protip to avoid this! So much fail!

Another wrinkle, a lot of preschools are Montessori style. Rich kids go to elite preschools.

Jadis and Trevor may have known each other a lot longer than has otherwise been implied. The problem is the two stories disagree on where Jadis and Mal got outed, but not when. Tansy has been with involved with three of the Goodkinds, but I don't think they were supposed to be boarding schools, just "rich kid" private academies and charter schools before charter schools became so in vogue.

Edit: Or maybe they are "escalator" style schools? Technically the same school, but with two different names depending on the grades? Jadis preferring to use the one name she had fonder memories from, and Alya using the one he humble-brags about all the time.

Westchester Montessori being what the younger kids call it, but all the checks get written to "Franklin Academies" for tax return purposes.

Katssun wrote: Another wrinkle, a lot of preschools are Montessori style. Rich kids go to elite preschools.

Jadis and Trevor may have known each other a lot longer than has otherwise been implied. The problem is the two stories disagree on where Jadis and Mal got outed, but not when. Tansy has been with involved with three of the Goodkinds, but I don't think they were supposed to be boarding schools, just "rich kid" private academies and charter schools before charter schools became so in vogue.

Edit: Or maybe they are "escalator" style schools? Technically the same school, but with two different names depending on the grades? Jadis preferring to use the one name she had fonder memories from, and Alya using the one he humble-brags about all the time.

Westchester Montessori being what the younger kids call it, but all the checks get written to "Franklin Academies" for tax return purposes.

Or Westchester Montessori is a "chain" of schools that Franklin Academy is part of.

I think either way works without being contradictory and resolving the confusion between Jadis' stories and Ayla's. Since Tansy is older, wouldn't "Franklin Academy" be the most appropriate to describe where she was bullying Trevor because of Heather and Connie?

The "Westchester" undoubtedly refers to Westchester County, NY which includes Yonkers, where the Goodkinds are originally from. The Diaboliks were sent there up from Manhattan.

Not necessarily, maybe back them the Daibliku family lived in Westchester, and they moved to the Manhattan mansion after the elementary school debacle. I mean, chauffering children from Manhattan to Westchester every day is a lot of trouble, when there are a number of rich-people schools in Manhattan (or so my watching episodes of Castle tells me)

Wow, the little thread that grew!

Sir Lee has it right- Jadis and Trevor met at Westchester Montessori, and then Bruce pulled Trev out when they found out about 'the Daiblikus' actually being the Diaboliks. Of course, Jadis and Mal were pulled out of WM quickly afterwards, but you don't yo-yo a kid like that.

As for why you don't hear about Tansy bullying Jadis?

<dramatic pause>

That's because Jadis and Tansy were actually part of the same girl-pack, the book-geeks who cluster together for protection and Literary Analysis. They weren't best buds or anything- if nothing else their respective positions on Walt Whitman prevented that- but they knew each other, and while Tansy would rather open a vein than admit it, her memories of hanging out in the Daibliku's kitchen, scarfing down Mrs. Barnes' caramel pecan clusters with the girls, nattering about Jane Austin, and yelling at Mal to leave them alone, is one of the few bright moments in her bleak childhood. If anything, Tansy regarded Jadis hanging with Trevor as a betrayal, which added to the venom of her bullying of Trevor.

When Jadis discovered that Tansy was at Whateley, she tried to renew their acquaintance, but Tansy stonewalled that with a wall of ice. Okay, the fact that Tansy's telepathic, and Jadis' bound devil squicks out telepaths something fierce helped

Bek D Corbin wrote: As for why you don't hear about Tansy bullying Jadis?

<dramatic pause>

That's because Jadis and Tansy were actually part of the same girl-pack, the book-geeks who cluster together for protection and Literary Analysis.

Holy Shit. Awww! So cute! Or something!

Bek D Corbin wrote: When Jadis discovered that Tansy was at Whateley, she tried to renew their acquaintance, but Tansy stonewalled that with a wall of ice. Okay, the fact that Tansy's telepathic, and Jadis' bound devil squicks out telepaths something fierce helped

... By Gen2, are they friends again, 'cause the devil went bye-bye? ... Hoping to see them friend-up after the devil goes away at what I hope is sometime during Gen1...

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I guess Jadis wasn't so friendly with Trevor that she tried to get Tansy off Trevor's back? ... No innuendo intended there...

Interesting that Elrod started this thread probably to help fill in Tansy's dream journey and look where else it has taken us!

Do we know why all the Westchester Montessori kids seem to have moved to Benjamin Franklin Academy, and that most of the known kids from one school are at the other?

Curse of the Dragon Queen implies that Westchester is a full elementary school, not just stopping at Grade 2.

So, why does Jadis have Grade 2 at Westchester, but Grade 3 at Benjamin Franklin? She wasn't moved because of the Daibliku thing, as the Daibliku reveal put her into homeschooling until Whateley.

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Do some mentions just have the names mixed up?

I think Ayla misspoke back in "Ayla and the Networks," and the scandal happened in Westchester Montessori. Trevor was transferred mid-third grade to B.F.A. in a sort of retaliation by the Goodkinds for the lack of care in keeping those filthy children of supervillains out of the school.

(By the way, when exactly the incident with the fig newtons was mentioned? I can't track it down)

^ - Fig Newtons came from "Diamonds Are A Vamp's Best Friend Part 4".