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9 years 1 month ago #201 by bergy
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    • Reverend Englund orders a new desk from the facilities management. Instead of a new desk they send him an older one they had setting in an unused closet in the tunnels. After a few days Darren starts to get curious about the strange, folded sheet of paper taped to the bottom...
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    • Worse, he doesn't notice the paper. But its close proximity starts doing... interesting... things to the Reverend's libido...

    (although Englund is already pretty old as of Gen1, he's likely to have retired or passed away by Gen2)
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    • Following a comment elsewhere...

    Someone inevitably decides to build a fully functional Crescent Rose...
    ...but unless they're also a reasonable level Exemplar or Speedster, they'd likely find it rather impractical.
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    • mittfh wrote: Following a comment elsewhere...

    Someone inevitably decides to build a fully functional Crescent Rose...
    ...but unless they're also a reasonable level Exemplar or Speedster, they'd likely find it rather impractical.


    Why not a PK?

    I wonder whose still alive? Or dead...

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    • Lamplighter is teaching history.
    9 years 1 month ago #206 by NeoMagus
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    • Domoviye wrote: Lamplighter is teaching history.


    As if.

    We've got someone much better than old Lampy for teaching history! :-p
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    9 years 1 month ago - 9 years 1 month ago #207 by Sir Lee
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    • Professor Binns?

    Oh, no, wait... MEPHISTO!

    Edit: D'OH! Two minutes of thinking cracked this one... there was some hinting about that Tractor & Vanity Girl will show up in Gen2, and Elrod even bothered to give their full names. Tractor is an History major. He would be a natural for the job.

    Question is: why?

    Possible answer: they have kids now, and worry about orphaning them. So they took low(er)-risk jobs at Whateley.
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    • NeoMagus wrote:

    Domoviye wrote: Lamplighter is teaching history.


    As if.

    We've got someone much better than old Lampy for teaching history! :-p


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    • NeoMagus wrote:

    Domoviye wrote: Lamplighter is teaching history.


    As if.

    We've got someone much better than old Lampy for teaching history! :-p


    You're right. Lamplighter is teaching Civics class.
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    • Domoviye wrote:

    NeoMagus wrote:

    Domoviye wrote: Lamplighter is teaching history.


    As if.

    We've got someone much better than old Lampy for teaching history! :-p


    You're right. Lamplighter is teaching Civics class.


    Nahhh... I think he's in space with all of the other Lamper Corps members.
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    • It could be fun speculating on which G1 characters will have walk-on cameos or mentions in G2 courtesy of Bek and EE...

    Meanwhile, given someone incorrectly thought "The Three Maidens" were the TLW a decade on, I wonder what the Three LIttle Pests are up to in G2? (Finally entering the world of work after graduating from Misatonic University?)
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    • I'll take a stab (or two) at the state of medical science in the G2 Whateleyverse.

    My first guess is that there will be a substance called 'Restigen', and a corresponding antidote called 'Restorigen'. As the names imply, they inhibit and initiate mutant-type regeneration. These substances are likely the product of a mage/devisor, and likely are mythosacitve. As such, the DPA regulates them as a controlled substance. More than likely, a dose or two of these substances can be located in secure storage at many Level 1 trauma centers . In addition, many high-level regenerators will carry a dose of each on their person at all times. Similarly, most teams of mutants (hero or villain) who either have or face a high level regenerator will have a dose or two in their medical kit.

    My second guess concerns Diedrick's syndrome. While there is (still) no universal cure, researchers will have divided the syndrome into multiple variants. The first major variant is the trigger. For some mutants, the trigger will be the use of a particular power set (ie: devisor), while for others, the trigger is a lack of use of a power set. Finally, for a few mutants, the trigger cause is independent of power usage. Further, an analysis of a patient's BIT can suggest that certain courses of action will have higher chances of success than others, but it is very difficult to translate from one bit scan to another. It may happen that having a value of 9B in sector 2451 of the report from Knick-Knack's BIT scanner corresponds to a yellow left index chaka when examined by Psilent Green, but is this actually an indicator that a Havoc inhibitor will work?
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    • A certain short character will be at Whateley doing research on Deidrick's.
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    • Someone has cracked (in a patentable form) 2 way bio-voltaic energy conversion and is attending Whateley
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    • Morpheus has created so many new characters that the cabal decided to add a new unisex cottage just for him.
    9 years 1 month ago - 9 years 1 month ago #216 by MageOhki
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    • ... The sad thing is we can't deny this...

    And have anyone buy it, anyways...
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    • Puppet is fixture at Whateley, like Fubar? Or she got tech so she can leave?
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    • Malady wrote: Puppet is fixture at Whateley, like Fubar? Or she got tech so she can leave?


    Or she's dead...

    ...

    ...

    ...well that's a depressing thought... :( :unsure:
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    • NeoMagus wrote:

    Malady wrote: Puppet is fixture at Whateley, like Fubar? Or she got tech so she can leave?


    Or she's dead...

    ...

    ...

    ...well that's a depressing thought... :( :unsure:


    Let's see - we've got:
    a) she's a fixture at Whateley
    b) she's got tech so she can leave
    c) she'd dead.

    I think that pretty much covers the possibilities.
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    • elrodw wrote:

    NeoMagus wrote:

    Malady wrote: Puppet is fixture at Whateley, like Fubar? Or she got tech so she can leave?


    Or she's dead...

    ...

    ...

    ...well that's a depressing thought... :( :unsure:


    Let's see - we've got:
    a) she's a fixture at Whateley
    b) she's got tech so she can leave
    c) she'd dead.

    I think that pretty much covers the possibilities.


    well, both a and b would have many possibilities branching out from them.

    If she's at Whateley, what does she do?
    If she left, again, what does she do.
    In both cases lots of possible options.

    I rather like the idea of her having an existence somewhat like the Shell People in Anne McCaffrey's Ship stories. She lives in a life support module that is plugged into some much larger devise/device that acts as her body.
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    • She could get the Drow treatment and be living as a sister-wife of Jobe. And with the family connection, Jobe could now be a major stake holder in Ayla's conglomerate.
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    • unless her blood is too toxic for the Drow serum to spread, besides, you really think a Goodkind would allow themselves to be degraded as such? Puppet might be in very poor state physically, but to be a sex thing for the sake of survival? THAT'S an insult.
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    9 years 1 month ago - 9 years 1 month ago #223 by Malady
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    • Jobe makes a deal with Puppet, and/or Ayla, to cure Puppet? ... Jobe discovers similarities between Puppet and Ayla's BITs or something, and investigates, or is prompted to investigate, or something, and reveals Nimbus's Necro-Techno-mantic Drug? ... Should move latter to Gen1 Speculat...

    ... If discovery of Nimbus Plot is imminent, Nimbus intervenes to hide tracks? ... But is somehow managed to be captured by Jobe and/or others... Anti-climax Nimbus Plot End?
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    • Malady wrote: Jobe makes a deal with her, and/or Ayla to cure Puppet? ... Jobe discovers similarities between Puppet and Ayla's BITs or something, and is investigates to reveal Necro-Techno-mantic Drug? ... Should move latter to Gen1 Speculat...


    Except Jobe adamantly believes magic to be an extension of Psionics, by extension shouldn't be able to identify something she doesn't believe to exist. Not easily anyways, I think that might be something Ayla discovers him/her self, along the Magic track,
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    • Domoviye wrote: She could get the Drow treatment and be living as a sister-wife of Jobe. And with the family connection, Jobe could now be a major stake holder in Ayla's conglomerate.


    Nimbus kills Nikki to destroy the return of the fairy realms, Ayla pays Jobe to make a "Sidhe" formular and gives it to Puppet, making her the new reincarnation of Aunghadhail and Paramount Queen.
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    • An aside on the speculation:

    Jobe DID see something of Mythos magic, when he was called by Jericho to consult on making an anti-Voodoo Wolves serum. And it scared the crap out of him -- he personally made sure that the sample was utterly destroyed.
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    • Sir Lee wrote: An aside on the speculation:

    Jobe DID see something of Mythos magic, when he was called by Jericho to consult on making an anti-Voodoo Wolves serum. And it scared the crap out of him -- he personally made sure that the sample was utterly destroyed.


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    • That would be in either 'Ill Winds' or Call The Thunder'.

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    • elrodw wrote:

    NeoMagus wrote:

    Malady wrote: Puppet is fixture at Whateley, like Fubar? Or she got tech so she can leave?


    Or she's dead...

    ...

    ...

    ...well that's a depressing thought... :( :unsure:


    Let's see - we've got:
    a) she's a fixture at Whateley
    b) she's got tech so she can leave
    c) she'd dead.

    I think that pretty much covers the possibilities.


    (d) She's been cured.
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    • Phoenix Spiritus wrote: ...new reincarnation of Aunghadhail and Paramount Queen.


    I realize it's a popular trope in comics to have a character die only to miraculously reappear at a later issue. That said, let me nip this in the bud right now.

    Aunghadhail is not coming back. To quote the movie, "This bitch is toast!" Or to put it more succinctly:

    She's not pinin'! She's passed on! This Queen is no more! She has ceased to be! She's expired and gone to meet her maker! She's a stiff! Bereft of life, she rests in peace! Her metabolic processes are now history! She's off the twig! She's kicked the bucket, she's shuffled off her mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!She's f*ckin' snuffed it!..... THIS IS AN EX-SIDHE!!

    *Ahem* Carry-on.
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    • E. E. Nalley wrote:

    Phoenix Spiritus wrote: ...new reincarnation of Aunghadhail and Paramount Queen.


    I realize it's a popular trope in comics to have a character die only to miraculously reappear at a later issue. That said, let me nip this in the bud right now.

    Aunghadhail is not coming back. To quote the movie, "This bitch is toast!" Or to put it more succinctly:

    She's not pinin'! She's passed on! This Queen is no more! She has ceased to be! She's expired and gone to meet her maker! She's a stiff! Bereft of life, she rests in peace! Her metabolic processes are now history! She's off the twig! She's kicked the bucket, she's shuffled off her mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!She's f*ckin' snuffed it!..... THIS IS AN EX-SIDHE!!

    *Ahem* Carry-on.


    Personally I don't get why people keep thinking that she's coming back, she's a hero's mentor and dear friend and this ain't Star Wars, Moreover, her death furthered Nikki's character development and was a heroic death, put it all together and "(S)he's dead, Jim." There are some characters you don't bring back, Aunghadhail is one of them.
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    • mhalpern wrote:

    E. E. Nalley wrote:

    Phoenix Spiritus wrote: ...new reincarnation of Aunghadhail and Paramount Queen.


    I realize it's a popular trope in comics to have a character die only to miraculously reappear at a later issue. That said, let me nip this in the bud right now.

    Aunghadhail is not coming back. To quote the movie, "This bitch is toast!" Or to put it more succinctly:

    She's not pinin'! She's passed on! This Queen is no more! She has ceased to be! She's expired and gone to meet her maker! She's a stiff! Bereft of life, she rests in peace! Her metabolic processes are now history! She's off the twig! She's kicked the bucket, she's shuffled off her mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!She's f*ckin' snuffed it!..... THIS IS AN EX-SIDHE!!

    *Ahem* Carry-on.


    Personally I don't get why people keep thinking that she's coming back, she's a hero's mentor and dear friend and this ain't Star Wars, Moreover, her death furthered Nikki's character development and was a heroic death, put it all together and "(S)he's dead, Jim." There are some characters you don't bring back, Aunghadhail is one of them.


    Two points here:
    a) EE, you missed the part about "if you hadn't nailed her to the perch, she'd be pushing up the daisies"

    b) We've seen a lot about spirits being less than nice, and a lot of evidence that Unga Dunga wasn't exactly a polite or nice spirit (or Sidhe in real-life). That she was a very bad influence on Nikki. So, to paraphrase Carson, "Good riddance to bad rubbish!"
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    • E. E. Nalley wrote:

    Phoenix Spiritus wrote: ...new reincarnation of Aunghadhail and Paramount Queen.


    I realize it's a popular trope in comics to have a character die only to miraculously reappear at a later issue. That said, let me nip this in the bud right now.

    Aunghadhail is not coming back. To quote the movie, "This bitch is toast!" Or to put it more succinctly:

    She's not pinin'! She's passed on! This Queen is no more! She has ceased to be! She's expired and gone to meet her maker! She's a stiff! Bereft of life, she rests in peace! Her metabolic processes are now history! She's off the twig! She's kicked the bucket, she's shuffled off her mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!She's f*ckin' snuffed it!..... THIS IS AN EX-SIDHE!!

    *Ahem* Carry-on.


    While I don't expect Unga-Dunga to come back, nor Heyoka, Cat, or anyone else that has died, I would like to point out a flaw or two in your rant. She's been bereft of life for a long, long time. Her metabolic processes ceased then too, and I am unsure if she was mortal to began with, but if so she shuffled off the coil then too.

    Now we might get Absinthe flashbacks, or other stories from prehistory, but Fey is now alone in her head, and only Jade talks to herself and answers back.
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    • I'm looking forward to and waiting patiently to see how Morpheus does handle Unga Dunga when Absinthe gets to Whateley.

    She's kinda important, although Nikki does have her mamories so...
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    • Valentine wrote:

    E. E. Nalley wrote:

    Phoenix Spiritus wrote: ...new reincarnation of Aunghadhail and Paramount Queen.


    I realize it's a popular trope in comics to have a character die only to miraculously reappear at a later issue. That said, let me nip this in the bud right now.

    Aunghadhail is not coming back. To quote the movie, "This bitch is toast!" Or to put it more succinctly:

    She's not pinin'! She's passed on! This Queen is no more! She has ceased to be! She's expired and gone to meet her maker! She's a stiff! Bereft of life, she rests in peace! Her metabolic processes are now history! She's off the twig! She's kicked the bucket, she's shuffled off her mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!She's f*ckin' snuffed it!..... THIS IS AN EX-SIDHE!!

    *Ahem* Carry-on.


    While I don't expect Unga-Dunga to come back, nor Heyoka, Cat, or anyone else that has died, I would like to point out a flaw or two in your rant. She's been bereft of life for a long, long time. Her metabolic processes ceased then too, and I am unsure if she was mortal to began with, but if so she shuffled off the coil then too.

    Now we might get Absinthe flashbacks, or other stories from prehistory, but Fey is now alone in her head, and only Jade talks to herself and answers back.


    Not just Jade, excluding Avatars, there's still Cyber Kitty as for Prehistory stuff, we know at least 3 other Avatars whose spirits are old enough to remember the Sundering though one of them might not have been in the Solar System at the time, the path may change but the destination remains the same.
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    • mhalpern wrote:

    Valentine wrote: While I don't expect Unga-Dunga to come back, nor Heyoka, Cat, or anyone else that has died, I would like to point out a flaw or two in your rant. She's been bereft of life for a long, long time. Her metabolic processes ceased then too, and I am unsure if she was mortal to began with, but if so she shuffled off the coil then too.

    Now we might get Absinthe flashbacks, or other stories from prehistory, but Fey is now alone in her head, and only Jade talks to herself and answers back.


    Not just Jade, excluding Avatars, there's still Cyber Kitty as for Prehistory stuff, we know at least 3 other Avatars whose spirits are old enough to remember the Sundering though one of them might not have been in the Solar System at the time, the path may change but the destination remains the same.


    Three? By your reasoning, it'd be four. The one who may not have been in the Solar System would be Tennyo, the Star Stalker. The other three are Wyatt, Lanie, and Kayda. Remember that the sundering shattered space-time itself, so in the true history, the Tribes were around at the time of the Sidhe as well, which means Wakan Tanka remembers (Kayda 6 - Medicine Girl).
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    • elrodw wrote:

    mhalpern wrote:

    Valentine wrote: While I don't expect Unga-Dunga to come back, nor Heyoka, Cat, or anyone else that has died, I would like to point out a flaw or two in your rant. She's been bereft of life for a long, long time. Her metabolic processes ceased then too, and I am unsure if she was mortal to began with, but if so she shuffled off the coil then too.

    Now we might get Absinthe flashbacks, or other stories from prehistory, but Fey is now alone in her head, and only Jade talks to herself and answers back.


    Not just Jade, excluding Avatars, there's still Cyber Kitty as for Prehistory stuff, we know at least 3 other Avatars whose spirits are old enough to remember the Sundering though one of them might not have been in the Solar System at the time, the path may change but the destination remains the same.


    Three? By your reasoning, it'd be four. The one who may not have been in the Solar System would be Tennyo, the Star Stalker. The other three are Wyatt, Lanie, and Kayda. Remember that the sundering shattered space-time itself, so in the true history, the Tribes were around at the time of the Sidhe as well, which means Wakan Tanka remembers (Kayda 6 - Medicine Girl).


    Well I wasn't sure how old Lanie's spirit is hence the "At least" nor how involved Grizzly was, but then there is 5, if we count Danny but that's besides the point, the point was that there are other spirits who would remember true history than Aunghadhail, ones that have Avatars that Absinthe would be able to meet, one of whom hosts one of them and channels another or is that hosts 2 and channels a third? Both explanations have been given. Regardless, Aung isn't strictly needed for the role in the fanfic.
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    • annachie wrote: I'm looking forward to and waiting patiently to see how Morpheus does handle Unga Dunga when Absinthe gets to Whateley.

    She's kinda important, although Nikki does have her mamories so...


    And quite nice mammaries they are, too... :D


    I think that the reason theories about Unga Bunga coming back persist is because of the vagueness surrounding her state of being alive in the first place. I mean, she has been killed before. And while the circumstances of this death were entirely different from the last time, I can understand thinking that she might be still capable of the avatar/reincarnation trick she pulled with Nikki (and Cirque)
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    • I think you should take ANY further speculation on Aunghadhail over to the Fey character thread . While you do that... consider the FACT that EE said AUNGHADHAIL IS DEAD AND NOT COMING BACK!!!!!
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    • E. E. Nalley wrote:

    Phoenix Spiritus wrote: ...new reincarnation of Aunghadhail and Paramount Queen.


    I realize it's a popular trope in comics to have a character die only to miraculously reappear at a later issue. That said, let me nip this in the bud right now.

    Aunghadhail is not coming back. To quote the movie, "This bitch is toast!" Or to put it more succinctly:


    True, true... But that is Canon... Would reviving the Paramount Queen be enough of a Bad Idea to go in that thread? Hmm...

    In other things, do some of those titles go to other people? Like the Paramount Queen might move to whichever sister appears next? ... Or is it 'cause she was married to the Sidhe King... So many titles....
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    • Malady wrote:

    E. E. Nalley wrote:

    Phoenix Spiritus wrote: ...new reincarnation of Aunghadhail and Paramount Queen.


    I realize it's a popular trope in comics to have a character die only to miraculously reappear at a later issue. That said, let me nip this in the bud right now.

    Aunghadhail is not coming back. To quote the movie, "This bitch is toast!" Or to put it more succinctly:


    True, true... But that is Canon... Would reviving the Paramount Queen be enough of a Bad Idea to go in that thread? Hmm...

    In other things, do some of those titles go to other people? Like the Paramount Queen might move to whichever sister appears next? ... Or is it 'cause she was married to the Sidhe King... So many titles....


    Well, Aung was first of NINE queens. There are probably others as well. I know one of my probably characters in fall 07 is a Norwegian girl who's now a Sidhe, and reputedly the seventh of the queens, although she doesn't remember it - despite others who DO (like a bratty little sister). Ice / Nordic powers. Interesting girl, she will be, ummm??? A nickname she will have, yes???
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    • elrodw wrote: Well, Aung was first of NINE queens. There are probably others as well. I know one of my probably characters in fall 07 is a Norwegian girl who's now a Sidhe, and reputedly the seventh of the queens, although she doesn't remember it - despite others who DO (like a bratty little sister). Ice / Nordic powers. Interesting girl, she will be, ummm??? A nickname she will have, yes???


    Still eagerly waiting to see what you'll be giving us on this subject. :D
    Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.
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    • ElrodW wrote: Well, Aung was first of NINE queens. There are probably others as well. I know one of my probably characters in fall 07 is a Norwegian girl who's now a Sidhe, and reputedly the seventh of the queens, although she doesn't remember it - despite others who DO (like a bratty little sister). Ice / Nordic powers. Interesting girl, she will be, ummm??? A nickname she will have, yes???


    Hmmm... I wonder how that relates to Suzan Chylds, who is an Avatar to some sort of Nordic ice-goddess?
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    ElrodW wrote: Well, Aung was first of NINE queens. There are probably others as well. I know one of my probably characters in fall 07 is a Norwegian girl who's now a Sidhe, and reputedly the seventh of the queens, although she doesn't remember it - despite others who DO (like a bratty little sister). Ice / Nordic powers. Interesting girl, she will be, ummm??? A nickname she will have, yes???


    Hmmm... I wonder how that relates to Suzan Chylds, who is an Avatar to some sort of Nordic ice-goddess?


    Not relating to Suzan Chylds' powers at all.
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    • elrodw wrote: I know one of my probably characters in fall 07 is a Norwegian girl who's now a Sidhe, and reputedly the seventh of the queens, although she doesn't remember it - despite others who DO (like a bratty little sister). Ice / Nordic powers. Interesting girl, she will be, ummm??? A nickname she will have, yes???


    That does mean that there'll be two more reputed Sidhe Queens in the world, right? The Seventh and a Younger Than Seventh, Which is Eighth or Ninth. ... Or is "like a bratty younger sister" a statement more of manner, than a statement of ... statementness...

    What if all Nine have returned at some point in Gen2? Well, obviously the First died... but she returned... ... And what about the King? ... He isn't named Oberon, right? ... There was mention of a Sister who made Aunghadhail infertile... Is there a Titania? ...

    What about the other Court Rulers, like the 10 Dijinn Lords... Hmm...
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    • In a thread for speculating about the universe, YOU are supposed to speculate. Not ask questions that would require a canon author to answer. WE are perfectly capable of speculating (and thus creating new plots and stories) on our own ... as recently supported by the recovery and transfer of 1.4 million words of forums material transferred from the old forums Gen 2 section that encompasses the chat logs and discussions/planning of the Gen 2 team from its creation through September's downtime/hacking.
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    • And no-one got it. Not a single bit.....
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    • not even a canted BIT...
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    • What did we miss? ... It's about Ice Fairy, isn't it. ... Snow Queen as a codename? 'Cause Norwegian... Also, Elsa and Frozen and stuff. ... There was Old Talk about a spate of Elsa-expies.

    Queen = 'cause Sidhe Queen. ... And so, could be the Sidhe queen mentioned in Islands in the Sun... If that was the exact phrase used... Also, Snow Queen, Sidhe Queen puns, as they have the same initials and stuff...

    'Snow Queen' seemed like pretty obvious wordplay, so I didn't feel like talking about it? ... But it's nice wordplay, for what that's worth.

    Well, I really shouldn't use the forums as an excuse to be lazy... *Looking for the flashback about Infertility Curse*...

    ... And Dijinn Lords number 12, not 10, as said here .
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    • Good guess, but no cigar.
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    • Given that Ice Fairy doesn't know who she is, most / all of the following wouldn't matter to her for her codename... But, I might be wrong...

    Most/all of this is likely self-made red herrings...

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    • Malady wrote: Given that Ice Fairy doesn't know who she is, most / all of the following wouldn't matter to her... But, I might be wrong...

    But, most/all of this is likely self-made red herrings...

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    Nine Ladies Dancing?
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    • Valentine wrote:

    Malady wrote: Given that Ice Fairy doesn't know who she is, most / all of the following wouldn't matter to her... But, I might be wrong...

    But, most/all of this is likely self-made red herrings...

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    Nine Ladies Dancing?


    Nope
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    • no, but that's an amusing thought.

    Want a hint? (As if I didn't give enough. EE got it immediately. Then again, the two of us share one common brain :) )
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    • elrodw wrote: no, but that's an amusing thought.


    Thanks. Glad it worked.

    elrodw wrote: Want a hint? (As if I didn't give enough. EE got it immediately. Then again, the two of us share one common brain :) )


    Nah. I sorta want it to be a surprise now? ... Dresden Files exists though... So, Mab, or Maeve, maybe...

    I'm sure there's other things that I'm not bothering to wiki-walk for. I haven't even looked for a listing of Winter/Ice/Snow goddesses yet... ... Maybe start from Ymir , and wiki-walk from there...

    Ah. Hel is her codename, perhaps... As Hel is the ruler-thing of Niflhiem ?
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    • As a political tool, and recruitment scheme, several Super Hero teams tutor and train young super-powered individuals (not just mutants) who are attached to their teams, these kids are restricted to support roles and when there is a mostly talk super villain in their age group that the hero teams and local law enforcement need to save face when bringing them in. Most of the kids are cases where Whateley doesn't make sense, and most of the applicants end up getting sent to Whateley, or if they can pass for baseline and their powers aren't such that they qualify under the "this kid needs Whateley" category, basic training on the control of their powers, and sending them on their way, the cases they keep on the teams are the ones that sending to Whateley would draw suspicion and the ones that don't have anywhere else to go, they would send the kids that end up attached to a team to whatever HQ is on the rotation to meet eachother and learn from eachother, but they would be an extension of Whateley, and would have Combat Finals with the main student body. To maintain neutrality, villain groups are given the option to do this as well, but no protections that would give the appearance of the hero and villain groups working together would be in place, only an agreement that the kids don't kill each-other and that they make assurances that the MCO would have difficulty disappearing them.
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    • Ice Fairy isn't a Mary Christmas expy, is she? ... Yeah, she's a Finder, but Santa Claus is wintry enough for me to think 'Snow'...

    She never was actually named Mary Christmas, in-story, was she... Mmm...

    Winter Festivals are her codename theme? ... Yule... Solstice... What are the other ones... Christmastide...
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    • I guess Dr. Diabolik is working towards SMI2LE still... Unless the Space Migration part has been accomplished... .... More moonbases, perhaps. Although, there might be reasons against more moonbases... Speculation is tricky stuff...

    I wonder... Given how much closer we are to a cancer cure... If my research is right... There could be a cancer cure in the Whateley-verse, if the tech is far enough ahead... ... Unless Mad Bio-Scientists somehow make new types of cancers... Creepy+Disgusting... then again, they are mad... That could easily explain AIDS-2+...

    Nanite Medicine is more commonplace... Or, is it? Mmm...

    What haven't we discussed yet...

    Was there talk about fusion power working out? Yes... from Islands in the Sun...

    one of the new fusion reactors that will be coming out ... fusion ship


    And then there's reactors made by the inventor-Mutant named Fusion... And his reactors might not use nuclear fusion... Miss a capital, or add one by mistake, either in reading or writing, confusion results...

    But, apparently use nuclear fusion reactor by-products with other things to make other fuel?

    Fusion reactors ... Fusion and cellulose/coal mixture to produce either an octane/ethanol mix or several other products that would seriously cut Japan’s needs on imported oil.

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    • Malady wrote: I guess Dr. Diabolik is working towards SMI2LE still... Unless the Space Migration part has been accomplished... .... More moonbases, perhaps. Although, there might be reasons against more moonbases... Speculation is tricky stuff...

    I wonder... Given how much closer we are to a cancer cure... If my research is right... There could be a cancer cure in the Whateley-verse, if the tech is far enough ahead... ... Unless Mad Bio-Scientists somehow make new types of cancers... Creepy+Disgusting... then again, they are mad... That could easily explain AIDS-2+...

    Nanite Medicine is more commonplace... Or, is it? Mmm...

    What haven't we discussed yet...

    Was there talk about fusion power working out? Yes... from Islands in the Sun...

    one of the new fusion reactors that will be coming out ... fusion ship


    And then there's reactors made by the inventor-Mutant named Fusion... And his reactors might not use nuclear fusion... Miss a capital, or add one by mistake, either in reading or writing, confusion results...

    But, apparently use nuclear fusion reactor by-products with other things to make other fuel?

    Fusion reactors ... Fusion and cellulose/coal mixture to produce either an octane/ethanol mix or several other products that would seriously cut Japan’s needs on imported oil.


    the thing about fusion is that Japan would only have easy access to 1 of the 2 ideal fusion fuels, Deuterium, the lesser of the two ideal fusion fuels though it is better than one of the 3 hydrogen isotopes, and the real tricks are in energy collection and the energy loss from initiating and maintaining the reaction, no matter what method you use, you are loosing energy to waste heat, there's also the question of how you harness the energy that comes in the form of loose subatomic particles that pass through most matter and is neutrally charged? With the WU level of technology, solutions to those problems are more reachable.
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    • mhalpern wrote: the thing about fusion is that Japan would only have easy access to 1 of the 2 ideal fusion fuels, Deuterium, the lesser of the two ideal fusion fuels though it is better than one of the 3 hydrogen isotopes, and the real tricks are in energy collection and the energy loss from initiating and maintaining the reaction, no matter what method you use, you are loosing energy to waste heat, there's also the question of how you harness the energy that comes in the form of loose subatomic particles that pass through most matter and is neutrally charged? With the WU level of technology, solutions to those problems are more reachable.


    I'm sorry, would you clarify? How could deuterium be "better than one of the 3 hydrogen isotopes," when deuterium IS one of the three known hydrogen isotopes? It's like saying "Revenge of the Sith" is better than one of the three Star Wars prequels...
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    • Um, to put a stop to this: Commerical Fusion plants are online and producing power as of 2016. Which version, doesn't matter (there's several ways to do it, and all might be in use, actually, depending where)

    Period, end, stop. The exact engineering/fuel solution is unimportant.

    Again, Commerical Fusion is online in Japan, the US, Western Europe. So are several other techs that are currently being discussed/therorized in RL, to replace some of the need for oil, as well as more pie in the sky (but feasible) ideas.
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    • MageOhki wrote: Um, to put a stop to this: Commerical Fusion plants are online and producing power as of 2016. Which version, doesn't matter (there's several ways to do it, and all might be in use, actually, depending where)

    Period, end, stop. The exact engineering/fuel solution is unimportant.

    Again, Commerical Fusion is online in Japan, the US, Western Europe. So are several other techs that are currently being discussed/therorized in RL, to replace some of the need for oil, as well as more pie in the sky (but feasible) ideas.


    *nods*

    So, how much energy do you guys think fusion reactors generate, as a percentage of National Power/World Power/Etc? Given America, it might be different from state to state? 50% anywhere seems a bit much? Does 10% sound too low?

    How small can they get, under General Tech and Gadgeteers? I bet not that small. Fusion Powered Powered Gadget Armor is impossible, I think. That small is only possible with Sci-Fi, Fallout and Mr. Fusions...

    So, there should be a few Fusion Powered Powered Devise Armors, as Devises can do anything... But, if a Devisor is making Fusion Tech in the first place, they might already know too much Actual Physics for their Devisor-ness to twist physics?

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    • These things tend to take a while to ramp up. Ten years is not that long.

    Let me see...
    Small, proof-of-concept plant goes online around... 2008? (The one in Whateley in 2006 does not count, it's a devise)
    If that's REALLY enticing, first commercial plants begin building in 2009. Consider about 2 years to build, so commercial production begins around 2011-12.

    I would think that by 2016 it would still count for less than 10% total power production.
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    • (The one in Whateley in 2006 does not count, it's a devise)

    Actually, there one in 2006 is straight up tech. It's alien in origin, but 'standard' enough in concept that just looking at the plans for it would enable all the existing fusion researchers to slap palms to foreheads and make the jump to what they were doing wrong very quickly. By 2007, multiple projects would have working prototypes. Putting them online commercially is a different story...

    They haven't pushed out everything else yet less because of what it will take to build them but more because too many people freak out about anything that has a potential for radiation (thank you cold war nuclear winter propaganda). The big difference between here and there is that gadgeteers can build these plants a number of different ways... there's only so much the oil industry can do to bury the research. Here, we're far more limited on how many parallel research groups might solve the puzzle and money can limit that just as easily as support it.

    However, its important to note that the fusion plants that are being built are NOT compact units. Like fission, we're not putting fusion plants in anything shy of an aircraft carrier, yet. Will that change? Yes, but that requires materials development... and not a lot of gadgeteers focus in on materials theory/practicals for innovation events. So they end up making just enough of a substance for their project and its not reproducible publicly... not because the theory is unsound, but because the materials we can manufacture don't meet the strength, flexibility, conductivity, or stress demands (or whatever).

    Fusion isn't the only big power shift, though. I'm currently putting together a story with PoV from Sophia Isenhart (who was introduced in MageOhki's Islands in the Sun) about her project from before she worked with Megumi on Japan's project... which takes place during the G1 timeline in Egypt/North Africa (specifically in the Sahara) called "Iron Wisdom and the Temple of the Gold Scorpion." Sophia is a gadgeteer specializing in power generation and storage systems born and schooled in Germany. She is contracted to provide Egypt with a viable national power system that is 100% solar. She turns it around and gives them a system that puts Egypt in a position of being able to supply power to most of Africa... and if the rest of Northern Africa cooperates with them, they could provide power to all of Africa AND Europe.

    And that is why Japan hires her for the Island project, where she is developing a power system that could put Japan in the position of supplying all of Asia... using tidal forces.

    Of course, what really makes Sophia's stuff viable is that its not just the 'generator' method that she advances, it's the entire grid/transmission and storage systems. Which are, of course, the main reasons we can't make more use of them in the real world at this time... we don't have 'battery' systems capable of holding the sort of charge demanded by half the planet during the night when the solar panels aren't actively drawing. But Sophia doesn't just have solar collector farms that are efficient enough that it seems disconcertingly dark somehow in the middle of the Sahara day, she has a collection system that includes 'spires'... and each spire is capable of holding sufficient stored power for its entire section of the grid/neighborhood for several days (the exact amount is dependent on local power demand and how many spires are built in, of course) which means that power source outages become less of an issue. And any spire can transfer power through the network to other spires so a LOT of the system has to be down to really cut off a part of the grid... but even when cut off, neighborhoods can maintain operation for some time before going dark.

    So... sure, there's fusion. But its not the only game in town in G2. It's not even the most efficient. :) But its important to remember that a commercial power plant is NOT the same thing as a power supply that you can fit inside power armor... or use to drive a PFG. Sophia's tech does have personal electronics and small applications uses... the Power Spikes used by Jimmy/Shieldwall's GridGear are developed using one of Isenhart's patents. But while they're an order of magnitude better than AA batteries... powering a small hard light projection system or holographic projector and a net-linked personal computer... their capability in use for a PFG or power armor... would be good for a couple minutes at best. On the 'cusp' of making either commercially viable... but not quite yet. :)
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    Just look at how long it takes to implement a new nuclear plant - a proven technology with which we have a lot of experience.
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    • Not only would implementing fusion take ages,but there are other competing technologies, even when you ignore fossil fuels, biofuel would be easier to convert preexisting power plants to, there's solar and wind, that are easy to implement not to mention that it wouldn't be surprising if some power companies utilized exotic power supplies (devisor made or just feeding energizers) with conventional backup because it's cost effective. Heck I wouldn't be surprised if someone came up with and manufactured kits to standardize the output end of devisor power sources, allowing quick change out on failure. Paired with a conventional backup battery, and power suit pilots would love them.
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    • Here yes. That would be true HERE.

    Why? Because of political reasons, a LOT of which have nothing to do with the reasons touted around in public (safety, regulation, etc)... it is ALL about the oil lobby not wanting the competition. Remember, I've worked nuclear power for the military. I KNOW what's possible with it... and look at how the Fukushima incident has been spun to scare people away from using nuclear. Even with Chernobyl and Fukushima counted as strikes against nuclear, there is still LESS damage done to people and land than the oil industry has achieved on its own. Same with coal. Combine the damages to people and land for coal, oil and gas and there's a towering list of damages that SHOULD make people cringe in embarrassment for even thinking that Fukushima was 'bad'. But that would require people to be properly educated in how both industries work and where they damage people and the environment. And that is not in the interest of certain very profit heavy industries and their wealthy owners and shareholders.

    But when you have gadgeteers actively pushing the development of non-fossil fuel oriented electrical systems, it's going to be a lot harder for congress to get in the way of that just because they've been lobbied to oppose it. Partly because the gadgeteers are going to build shit anyway ...
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    • It's kind of hard to regulate the nascent technology and control the PR message when a devisor builds a small-scale fusion plant in his or her garage, news gets out, and then gadgeteers decide to make it practical - in THEIR garages.

    Gadgeteers really change the calculus of tech deployment simply because there are too many of them to control, they're good, and if they can't do it in the USA, they'll find some third-world country that DOES want to own a 'first world' technology for political status. And serious energy independence.

    Makes me think of a RAH sci-fi story about a team that invents very efficient solar 'screens' (think solar cells - described differently, but it's a reasonable comparison). Cheap, easy to make - and their company gets attacked from all sides. So they very publicly put out the technology on a very low-royalty patent, so the entrenched interests can't stop all competition. Gadgeteers make the deployment model more like this than our real-world.
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    • My only question is where is the Devisor or Gadgeteer that is making the coal/oil/natural gas high efficiency/low polluting power plants?

    IIRC Lanie's supercharger increased hp and gas mileage while reducing pollution.
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    • Regarding that...
    When you burn hydrocarbons (coal/oil/natural gas) you end up with carbon dioxide and water. There's no getting around that. Increasing the efficiency only reduces -- somewhat -- the amount of CO² produced, Even at a theoretically-impossible 100% efficiency, you would still be pumping out about 1/3 of the CO² a regular powerplant produces.

    So, it helps a bit but doesn't really solve the problem. OTOH, biodevisors might figure out better carbon-sequestering crops, and better biofuels. That would make renewable fuels competitive with fossil fuels, which would be a BIG help.

    Some efficient way to harvest phosphorus and other important fertilizer elements from seawater would also be really important, not only for biofuel growing but for food growing.
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    • Sir Lee wrote: Some efficient way to harvest phosphorus and other important fertilizer elements from sewater would also be really important, not only for biofuel growing but for food growing.


    You want good fertilizer? Have a biodevisor create a hybrid bird that's a huge dumper, creating massive amounts of natural fertilizer every day. A flock of them could cover cars in a major stadium parking lot :lol:

    The safest thing would be flightless birds, though...
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    • elrodw wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: Some efficient way to harvest phosphorus and other important fertilizer elements from sewater would also be really important, not only for biofuel growing but for food growing.


    You want good fertilizer? Have a biodevisor create a hybrid bird that's a huge dumper, creating massive amounts of natural fertilizer every day. A flock of them could cover cars in a major stadium parking lot :lol:

    The safest thing would be flightless birds, though...


    Specially engineered emus with yellow feathers that produce exceptionally nutrient rich feces and are big enough to ride like a horse and run incredibly fast.

    Chocobos for everyone!!!
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    • NeoMagus wrote:

    elrodw wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: Some efficient way to harvest phosphorus and other important fertilizer elements from sewater would also be really important, not only for biofuel growing but for food growing.


    You want good fertilizer? Have a biodevisor create a hybrid bird that's a huge dumper, creating massive amounts of natural fertilizer every day. A flock of them could cover cars in a major stadium parking lot :lol:

    The safest thing would be flightless birds, though...


    Specially engineered emus with yellow feathers that produce exceptionally nutrient rich feces and are big enough to ride like a horse and run incredibly fast.

    Chocobos for everyone!!!

    Now I've got the Chocobo riding music stuck in my head. :silly:

    With Princess Jobe still around, I'd surprised if some rich fan hasn't commissioned her to create something from their favorite RPG or JRPRG yet.
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    • Sir Lee wrote: Regarding that...
    When you burn hydrocarbons (coal/oil/natural gas) you end up with carbon dioxide and water. There's no getting around that. Increasing the efficiency only reduces -- somewhat -- the amount of CO² produced, Even at a theoretically-impossible 100% efficiency, you would still be pumping out about 1/3 of the CO² a regular powerplant produces.

    So, it helps a bit but doesn't really solve the problem. OTOH, biodevisors might figure out better carbon-sequestering crops, and better biofuels. That would make renewable fuels competitive with fossil fuels, which would be a BIG help.

    Some efficient way to harvest phosphorus and other important fertilizer elements from seawater would also be really important, not only for biofuel growing but for food growing.


    Except when you add the Carbonmaster Three Filter (patent pending) that turns 60 CO2 into C60 and 60 O2, you drastically reduce the CO2 emmision.

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    • elrodw wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: Some efficient way to harvest phosphorus and other important fertilizer elements from sewater would also be really important, not only for biofuel growing but for food growing.


    You want good fertilizer? Have a biodevisor create a hybrid bird that's a huge dumper, creating massive amounts of natural fertilizer every day. A flock of them could cover cars in a major stadium parking lot :lol:

    The safest thing would be flightless birds, though...


    The real pièce de résistance tthough was the homing pigeon modification that kept them to within a certain range of a variant of high-tech magnet with variable frequencies he had made.

    Good for farming them... BETTER for pranking your friends, enemies and frenemies.
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    • Just as a general 'facts' note.

    The US burns about 800 million tons of coal every year at about 570 plants (each producing 500MW of power) to provide 44% of the electricity load .This uses about 90% of all coal the US mines each year (around 950 million tons), a rate we can sustain for another 250 years before exhausting ALL coal accessible to us in the US, via existing mining techniques and technology. The US has about 1/4th the total world's coal reserves.

    Worldwide consumption of Oil is about 91 million barrels/day. A barrel is roughly 42 gallons... so yearly consumption, by the world of crude oil is about 1.4 trillion gallons. The US's share of that consumption is 21%.How much is left? That's a bit scarier a number - about 1.3 trillion barrels (54.7 trillion gallons). So if we're using that up at a rate of 1.4 trillion per year... that's only about 40 years left at our current consumption rates.

    The US uses about 27 trillion cubic feet of Natural Gas each year. Estimated reserves in the US are around 1.968 trillion cubic feet That suggests we have about 73 years left in the reserves. (World reserves are 6,973 tcf, while world consumption is around 113 tcf - only about 62 years)


    There are, quite literally, people who are alive today who will live long enough to see a point at which we simply cannot use oil or natural gas as a primary source of power... not for cars, not for heating, not for electricity. Natural gas is also used in making plastics, paints, dyes, anti-freeze, film for pre-digital cameras, even some fertilizers and medicines. Crude oil? plastics, solvents, lubricants.

    We honestly don't have time for politicians to get in the way of innovation in the interest of protecting their wealthy business supporters. Those people might have billions now... but seriously, what's that going to do for them while our technological society collapses for lack of resources with which to progress?
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    • One good thing is that there are methods to produce oil right now using everything from wood pulp to turkeys, its too expensive for current prices,so we don't have to worry about plastics, solvents and lubricants.
    But yeah, I agree that another source for power is absolutely critical, and relying solely on solar and wind alone won't cut it. Nuclear and fusion will have to be the workhorses, unless we want to cover entire deserts in solar panels, or get off our butts and start putting solar panels in space and figuring out how to beam the power back to Earth.
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    • Or simply stop having more than two children per family. Or even better... only one child. And then... once the population of the world is back down under a billion, we can allow for two.

    Or, handle it as a 'credit' thing. Each adult, upon completing some accrediting action... military service, a stable non-minimum wage job, an education... etc..earns a credit value. Being allowed to conceive a child takes a set number of credits... and can be contributed to by anyone who has credits. In most circumstances, a qualified mom and dad would have enough credits to have one child. But friends or associates who see them as good parents (and are personally more focused on things other than having a family) could contribute their credits to that couple, allowing them to have a second or third child as well.
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    • I could go with the credit system.
    I'm generally an optimist when it comes to the far future, so i like seeing the tech developed in fiction like this. Can't wait to see how you guys have developed it.
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    • Kristin Darken wrote: Just as a general 'facts' note.

    The US burns about 800 million tons of coal every year at about 570 plants (each producing 500MW of power) to provide 44% of the electricity load .This uses about 90% of all coal the US mines each year (around 950 million tons), a rate we can sustain for another 250 years before exhausting ALL coal accessible to us in the US, via existing mining techniques and technology. The US has about 1/4th the total world's coal reserves.

    Worldwide consumption of Oil is about 91 million barrels/day. A barrel is roughly 42 gallons... so yearly consumption, by the world of crude oil is about 1.4 trillion gallons. The US's share of that consumption is 21%.How much is left? That's a bit scarier a number - about 1.3 trillion barrels (54.7 trillion gallons). So if we're using that up at a rate of 1.4 trillion per year... that's only about 40 years left at our current consumption rates.

    The US uses about 27 trillion cubic feet of Natural Gas each year. Estimated reserves in the US are around 1.968 trillion cubic feet That suggests we have about 73 years left in the reserves. (World reserves are 6,973 tcf, while world consumption is around 113 tcf - only about 62 years)


    There are, quite literally, people who are alive today who will live long enough to see a point at which we simply cannot use oil or natural gas as a primary source of power... not for cars, not for heating, not for electricity. Natural gas is also used in making plastics, paints, dyes, anti-freeze, film for pre-digital cameras, even some fertilizers and medicines. Crude oil? plastics, solvents, lubricants.

    We honestly don't have time for politicians to get in the way of innovation in the interest of protecting their wealthy business supporters. Those people might have billions now... but seriously, what's that going to do for them while our technological society collapses for lack of resources with which to progress?

    Well can also get natural gas from our garbage and possibly collect it from cows... and as an agricultural byproduct
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    • We can. But the cows get a little pissed when you've got gadgets sucking on them once a morning. can you imagine trying to keep them calm while you've got collectors stuck up their asses 24/7?
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    • We could use politicians, they are well used to having their heads stuck up their backsides, a collector shouldn't be an issue for them...
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    • Hmm, raise the cows in giant domes.
    methane will rise to the top and can be collected at regular intervals.
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    • Um... you do realize that cows spend 'most' of their time outside, in fields, eating... right? If you tried to contain them inside a controlled environment to harvest emissions, it would significantly change their diet and maintenance needs (and costs).
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    • Actually, there is such a thing as confined cattle-raising, where they are kept in pens and fed from a trough. But whether it is more profitable than letting them graze depends on a number of factors.

    And, of course, you get even more flak from PETA.
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    • Sir Lee wrote: And, of course, you get even more flak from PETA.


    The Midwest definition of PETA:

    People
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    Animals

    :lol:

    Seriously, if you look at cattle feedlots, they are essentially large cages for feeding and fattening animals. And due to the crowded conditions, they require huge amounts of antibiotics and other supplements to keep the herds healthy, which brings its own problems.
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    • Sir Lee wrote: Actually, there is such a thing as confined cattle-raising, where they are kept in pens and fed from a trough. But whether it is more profitable than letting them graze depends on a number of factors.

    And, of course, you get even more flak from PETA.


    That's why you would need a multi story building that emulates a field in that theres grass covered slopes between each floor and enough lighting to emulate the day night cycle and every floor is covered with grass... eventually it will happen, there's only so much land and an increasing demand for agricultural goods, like beef
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    I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat grass!
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    • To be fair, it wasn't so much claw our way to the top as it was, go outside of what nature evolved our bodies into to build tools for the primary purpose of killing off all the links in the chain above ours.
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    • To drag this back to devisor goodness, Cattle Grazing in space in huge floating farms is not an uncommon thing in SF, (Honorverse comes to mind with Grayson) so I could see it being done as sort of a test piece, and yes tapping off the methane and manure power piles and all.



    Burning question. Regen. Specifically, Stephen's regen research company that was slicing up Jade.
    Is it available in pill form yet, or via genetic tinkering? Or will it fail abysmally?
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    • If I remember the time frame correctly, it might be in clinical testing, or it was dropped, when initial tests turned subjects into Jade clones.

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    • Astrodragon wrote: Pah.
    I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat grass!

    The grass is for the cows, and CO2 emissions
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    • annachie wrote: To drag this back to devisor goodness, Cattle Grazing in space in huge floating farms is not an uncommon thing in SF, (Honorverse comes to mind with Grayson) so I could see it being done as sort of a test piece, and yes tapping off the methane and manure power piles and all.

    Heck, I even know a song about it, but unfortunately "Meat on the Moon" by the Bobs appears to be too obscure to be found on Youtube.
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    Mimeo might? For a permanently younger body? Perhaps not...

    Do you think there's any competitors in the 'rejuvenation' business, other than the Animen?

    What are the requirements to become a Drow in the first place? ... I wonder if there's been any mind wipes, or if there was a 100% success rate... ... We haven't seen any male Drow, right? ... Unlikely that someone other than Jobe is running a Male Drowification plan...

    I wonder how many, if any, Drow are at Whateley...
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    • Given in the RL universe there are currently experiments into producing bacterial 'meat', it's likely at the very least there'll be experiments to provide sources of 'meat' that don't involve raising animals, slaughtering them, and not using a considerable proportion of their body mass. Research to grow replacement organs in vitro could easily be expanded to growing muscle tissue.

    Eventually, there'd still be a market for meat from whole animals, but it would eventually contract to a niche market.

    On the power front, we know plans existed for an anti-matter reactor back in 2006 (courtesy of Hive) and Drs Pollard and Shandy were aware of the power generation possibilities of anti-matter when testing a certain Miss Wilson, but as they said back then, other sources of anti-matter are prohibitively expensive. It's likely that's still true a decade later, so there may be one whose supplies are refreshed periodically by a certain visitor in active use, but any others are likely to be part-time experimental efforts.
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    • mittfh wrote: Given in the RL universe there are currently experiments into producing bacterial 'meat', it's likely at the very least there'll be experiments to provide sources of 'meat' that don't involve raising animals, slaughtering them, and not using a considerable proportion of their body mass. Research to grow replacement organs in vitro could easily be expanded to growing muscle tissue.

    Eventually, there'd still be a market for meat from whole animals, but it would eventually contract to a niche market.

    On the power front, we know plans existed for an anti-matter reactor back in 2006 (courtesy of Hive) and Drs Pollard and Shandy were aware of the power generation possibilities of anti-matter when testing a certain Miss Wilson, but as they said back then, other sources of anti-matter are prohibitively expensive. It's likely that's still true a decade later, so there may be one whose supplies are refreshed periodically by a certain visitor in active use, but any others are likely to be part-time experimental efforts.


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    • Jobe's cancer beef doesn't count, because it still involves raising cattle. And it's also carcinogenic.
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    • Okay so I haven't been keeping up with this thread due to lack of time but from reading over 'you might be a student at Whateley if…' I realized something.

    As far as I can tell there's no new Jade yet. No one fits the role she has in the current group. I'm not saying there need to be one or that someone should be forced into the role. But it just doesn't feel like Whateley without someone totally insane for the main characters to talk about/react to.
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    • Jarjaross wrote: Okay so I haven't been keeping up with this thread due to lack of time but from reading over 'you might be a student at Whateley if…' I realized something.

    As far as I can tell there's no new Jade yet. No one fits the role she has in the current group. I'm not saying there need to be one or that someone should be forced into the role. But it just doesn't feel like Whateley without someone totally insane for the main characters to talk about/react to.

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    • Jade isn't really "insanity" nor "Tactical chaos", she's more … un-encumbered logical girl.

    i.e. there is a logic to what she does, once its explained it is totally logical and elementary, the only difference is she really isn't encumbered by any preconceived limitations everything is on the table to start with, and she'll choose whichever makes the most logical sense to do.

    Its just because she really, truely starts with "everything on the table" that you get the wackiness of Jade, because often her answer to a problem is something people instantly dismiss and think she's "insane" to try, irrespective if it works or not.
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    • Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Jade isn't really "insanity" nor "Tactical chaos", she's more … un-encumbered logical girl.

    i.e. there is a logic to what she does, once its explained it is totally logical and elementary, the only difference is she really isn't encumbered by any preconceived limitations everything is on the table to start with, and she'll choose whichever makes the most logical sense to do.

    Its just because she really, truely starts with "everything on the table" that you get the wackiness of Jade, because often her answer to a problem is something people instantly dismiss and think she's "insane" to try, irrespective if it works or not.

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    • Nagrij wrote: This week in Whateley Gen 2 chat... Steenking badgers. Totally serious.


    You forgot the parrots
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    • Nagrij wrote: This week in Whateley Gen 2 chat... Steenking badgers. Totally serious.


    We don't need any.
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    • Nagrij wrote: This week in Whateley Gen 2 chat... Steenking badgers. Totally serious.


    Said the dark one.
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    • Nagrij wrote: This week in Whateley Gen 2 chat... Steenking badgers. Totally serious.


    And from the Whateley Student thread, I'm guessing a whole lot to Monty Python's The Holy Grail too.
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    • Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

    Nagrij wrote: This week in Whateley Gen 2 chat... Steenking badgers. Totally serious.


    And from the Whateley Student thread, I'm guessing a whole lot to Monty Python's The Holy Grail too.


    We're just being fed a whole lot of spam.

    And be careful of that Joke it might be a killer.
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    • I'm old. I remember when it first came to PBS in the states.

    I'm such a twit.

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    • Ib12us wrote: I'm old. I remember when it first came to PBS in the states.

    I'm such a twit.

    EDIT: WHAT NO ONE WANTS TO ARGUE THE POINT?!

    Sketches


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    • Ib12us wrote: I'm old. I remember when it first came to PBS in the states.

    I'm such a twit.

    EDIT: WHAT NO ONE WANTS TO ARGUE THE POINT?!

    Sketches


    You want to know the worst thing? I was still considered too young to watch it when it was first broadcast in the UK... And yet Monty Python has since become such a part of our culture that these references still make me feel old!

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    • rubberjohn wrote:

    Ib12us wrote: I'm old. I remember when it first came to PBS in the states.

    I'm such a twit.

    EDIT: WHAT NO ONE WANTS TO ARGUE THE POINT?!

    Sketches


    You want to know the worst thing? I was still considered too young to watch it when it was first broadcast in the UK... And yet Monty Python has since become such a part of our culture that these references still make me feel old!

    John.


    Whats worse is I kinda remember the 1st doctor and his niece.

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    • Ah! The good old days of Black & White Television... You young whippersnappers don't know how good you have things these days... Why I remember when... mumble... mumble... mumble... ;)

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    • rubberjohn wrote: Ah! The good old days of Black & White Television... You young whippersnappers don't know how good you have things these days... Why I remember when... mumble... mumble... mumble... ;)

    John.


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    • elrodw wrote:

    rubberjohn wrote: Ah! The good old days of Black & White Television... You young whippersnappers don't know how good you have things these days... Why I remember when... mumble... mumble... mumble... ;)

    John.


    mumble ... mumble ... walk to school ... mumble ... uphill both ways ... mumble GET OFF MY LAWN ... mumble ... mumble


    Grampa tell me about the good old days. I got Chocolate.

    Well Johnny back in my day, mumble, we used to ZZZZZZZZZZ........
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    • rubberjohn wrote: Ah! The good old days of Black & White Television... You young whippersnappers don't know how good you have things these days... Why I remember when... mumble... mumble... mumble... ;)

    John.


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    rubberjohn wrote: Ah! The good old days of Black & White Television... You young whippersnappers don't know how good you have things these days... Why I remember when... mumble... mumble... mumble... ;)

    John.


    You had black AND white television? Luxury, we only black television.


    Who'd a thought 40 years ago...

    Damn near 50 years ago
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    • Kettlekorn wrote: That would be too obvious and typecasty. If I were Lapin, I'd go as Torchwick or Neon Katt.

    See TK 2006 Halloween costumes, namely Tennyo's.... And Cally would go as Neon, to fit the music theme, Bianca would be Weiss (for 2 obvious reasons) Jimmy could use water to pull off Sun's tail, Kenshin as Ren....
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    • mhalpern wrote:

    Kettlekorn wrote: That would be too obvious and typecasty. If I were Lapin, I'd go as Torchwick or Neon Katt.

    See TK 2006 Halloween costumes, namely Tennyo's.... And Cally would go as Neon, to fit the music theme, Bianca would be Weiss (for 2 obvious reasons) Jimmy could use water to pull off Sun's tail, Kenshin as Ren....


    Pretty sure you mean Vic rather than Jimmy, since Vic is the hydrokinetic and Jimmy is a PK brick with benefits.
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    • You know, it's odd.
    Every time I suggest a costume which is mainly body paint, Neo gets this facial twitch...
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    • Astrodragon wrote: You know, it's odd.
    Every time I suggest a costume which is mainly body paint, Neo gets this facial twitch...


    I've noticed that. Except he generally facepalms at hearing my suggestions. He's going to knock himself unconscious one day if he keeps it up.
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    • Domoviye wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: You know, it's odd.
    Every time I suggest a costume which is mainly body paint, Neo gets this facial twitch...


    I've noticed that. Except he generally facepalms at hearing my suggestions. He's going to knock himself unconscious one day if he keeps it up.


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    • and nobody cares what Laura would go as.

    she's just staying happily in the background, which means when her friends get thumped in fights, she can slip off to one side unobtrusively
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    • I really don't understand why Neo makes so much fuss, Morgana wasnt planning on just body paint.
    Well, probably...
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    • Astrodragon wrote: I really don't understand why Neo makes so much fuss, Morgana wasnt planning on just body paint.
    Well, probably...


    Its the fact that she's the one that has to paint it on her.

    {facepalm}
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    • Domoviye wrote: Laura can go as Smurfette, so she will be able to stay out of a fight much more easily.


    Minor preview.
    If you want to get Laura pissed enough to use a gadget on you - or her MA training - call her a smurf or Smurfette. She kind of REALLY doesn't like that.
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    • elrodw wrote:

    Domoviye wrote: Laura can go as Smurfette, so she will be able to stay out of a fight much more easily.


    Minor preview.
    If you want to get Laura pissed enough to use a gadget on you - or her MA training - call her a smurf or Smurfette. She kind of REALLY doesn't like that.


    I thought as much after reading Part 3 of Calimari last night.
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    • Domoviye wrote:

    elrodw wrote:

    Domoviye wrote: Laura can go as Smurfette, so she will be able to stay out of a fight much more easily.


    Minor preview.
    If you want to get Laura pissed enough to use a gadget on you - or her MA training - call her a smurf or Smurfette. She kind of REALLY doesn't like that.


    I thought as much after reading Part 3 of Calimari last night.
    What will it take for me to convince the other G2 writers to call her smurfette every chance they get?


    You act like we don't already.
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    • Domoviye wrote:

    elrodw wrote:

    Domoviye wrote: Laura can go as Smurfette, so she will be able to stay out of a fight much more easily.


    Minor preview.
    If you want to get Laura pissed enough to use a gadget on you - or her MA training - call her a smurf or Smurfette. She kind of REALLY doesn't like that.


    I thought as much after reading Part 3 of Calimari last night.
    What will it take for me to convince the other G2 writers to call her smurfette every chance they get?


    Intensive bribery is a good start
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    • Domoviye wrote: How does 10 million in Monopoly dollars sound?


    Not nearly as good as cookies
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    • elrodw wrote:

    Domoviye wrote: Laura can go as Smurfette, so she will be able to stay out of a fight much more easily.


    Minor preview.
    If you want to get Laura pissed enough to use a gadget on you - or her MA training - call her a smurf or Smurfette. She kind of REALLY doesn't like that.


    What if you call her a Nac Mac Feegle?
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    • Arcanist Lupus wrote:

    elrodw wrote:

    Domoviye wrote: Laura can go as Smurfette, so she will be able to stay out of a fight much more easily.


    Minor preview.
    If you want to get Laura pissed enough to use a gadget on you - or her MA training - call her a smurf or Smurfette. She kind of REALLY doesn't like that.


    What if you call her a Nac Mac Feegle?


    Female though, so Kelda?

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    • Astrodragon wrote: Well, since she does Martial Arts we could call her Woad Warrior?


    Just HOW widely does DF want that covertly-taken video of Laura's "help" spread? Hmmmm?
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    • elrodw wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: Well, since she does Martial Arts we could call her Woad Warrior?


    Just HOW widely does DF want that covertly-taken video of Laura's "help" spread? Hmmmm?


    Wait...what? What video? What help? Why haven't I heard anything about this? :blink: :huh:
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    • NeoMagus wrote:

    elrodw wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: Well, since she does Martial Arts we could call her Woad Warrior?


    Just HOW widely does DF want that covertly-taken video of Laura's "help" spread? Hmmmm?


    Wait...what? What video? What help? Why haven't I heard anything about this? :blink: :huh:


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    • NeoMagus wrote:

    elrodw wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: Well, since she does Martial Arts we could call her Woad Warrior?


    Just HOW widely does DF want that covertly-taken video of Laura's "help" spread? Hmmmm?


    Wait...what? What video? What help? Why haven't I heard anything about this? :blink: :huh:


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    • Nagrij wrote:

    NeoMagus wrote:

    elrodw wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: Well, since she does Martial Arts we could call her Woad Warrior?


    Just HOW widely does DF want that covertly-taken video of Laura's "help" spread? Hmmmm?


    Wait...what? What video? What help? Why haven't I heard anything about this? :blink: :huh:


    Poor Neo, always the last to know. Sad thing is, Neo actually is our "straight man".


    By 'straight man' you mean last to know and therefore not seemingly as crazy?
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    • Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

    Nagrij wrote:

    NeoMagus wrote:

    elrodw wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: Well, since she does Martial Arts we could call her Woad Warrior?


    Just HOW widely does DF want that covertly-taken video of Laura's "help" spread? Hmmmm?


    Wait...what? What video? What help? Why haven't I heard anything about this? :blink: :huh:


    Poor Neo, always the last to know. Sad thing is, Neo actually is our "straight man".


    By 'straight man' you mean last to know and therefore not seemingly as crazy?


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    • Someone's mutation was triggered February 13th or 14th of 2016, that's my prediction and I'm sticking to it.
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    • Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

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    NeoMagus wrote:

    elrodw wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: Well, since she does Martial Arts we could call her Woad Warrior?


    Just HOW widely does DF want that covertly-taken video of Laura's "help" spread? Hmmmm?


    Wait...what? What video? What help? Why haven't I heard anything about this? :blink: :huh:


    Poor Neo, always the last to know. Sad thing is, Neo actually is our "straight man".


    By 'straight man' you mean last to know and therefore not seemingly as crazy?


    Pretty much.
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    • When the sim crew really, really, want to punish a cocky team they call Jade.
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    • Calling Jade... might... be a little difficult... ;)
    9 years 1 week ago #367 by mhalpern
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    • annachie wrote: When the sim crew really, really, want to punish a cocky team they call Jade.

    Wouldn't that qualify as cruel and unusual punishment?
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    • I'd expect that they'd keep a Wondercute simulation on file the same way they have a Dragonslayers sim.


    The three hardest Whateley sims: Dragonslayers, Team Kimba, and worst of all, Wondercute.
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    9 years 1 week ago - 9 years 1 week ago #369 by E M Pisek
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    • Arcanist Lupus wrote: I'd expect that they'd keep a Wondercute simulation on file the same way they have a Dragonslayers sim.


    The three hardest Whateley sims: Dragonslayers, Team Kimba, and worst of all, Wondercute.


    It could be like my old gym teacher did. Beat one team you go onto the next and then the next and if you keep wining you get to do two then three the next time.
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    9 years 6 days ago #370 by mittfh
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    • So with the first batch of Gen 2 enrollees likely to travel past the guardian gargoyles in the next couple of weeks...

    Likely:
    * All 'traditional' student dorm cottages plus Hawthorne will have been extended and refurbished
    * Melville will have been refurbished
    * Some of the teaching blocks may also have been extended / new teaching blocks built (after all, if the number of students attending is increasing, sooner or later most of the existing teaching accommodation will be in use simultaneously)
    * All three arenas will have been upgraded - the Area 99 tech of Gen 1 may now be in Area 77 or may have been upgraded further
    * The staff village (IIRC off campus, but fairly close) will have been refurbished / extended, as will the guest accommodation (on campus, probably closer to the main gate than the bulk of buildings)

    Possible:
    * Holographic technology / force fields will have been installed in the Holbrook Arena / McFarlane Auditorium
    * A dedicated on-campus road leading to a new ER entrance to Doyle, which avoids the main student throughfares
    * Melville extended - given it's toroidal shape beforehand, possibly now a figure of eight

    Maybe we can even start speculating on who gets assigned to which cottage...
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    • I will award a plushie Elrod doll for the first completely correct list of where everyone ends up :D
    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
    9 years 6 days ago #372 by E. E. Nalley
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    • Astrodragon wrote: I will award a plushie Elrod doll for the first completely correct list of where everyone ends up :D


    It comes with a stylish bikini and a beach playset along with a brush so you can take care of that magnificent mustache.

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    • And a full set of pins...:evil:
    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
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    • I'll narrow it down for them... they're all in the "traditionally" named cottages... ;)
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    • Astrodragon wrote: And a full set of pins...:evil:


    Voodoo or poisons spikes?
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    • Does this Elrod doll come with miniature voodoo dolls of his characters?

    :twisted:
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    • Of course, of course.


    now, get to guessing!
    9 years 6 days ago #378 by Valentine
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    • Astrodragon wrote: I will award a plushie Elrod doll for the first completely correct list of where everyone ends up :D


    Dragonblade - Twain
    Nick Brennen Jr. - Twain
    Glyph - Melville
    Dragonsfyre - Dickinson
    Cerulea - Poe
    Eisenmadel - Dickinson
    Calliope - Dickinson
    Invictus - Whitman
    Shieldwall - Emerson
    Kenshin - Melville
    Hikaru - Melville
    Lapin - Poe
    Backtrack - Poe

    I'm not even sure if I have a complete list of the new students.
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    • Victor Rivera (that is obviously an assumed name) Poe
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    • I can say this: *Sneeerk* Anyone else guess?
    9 years 6 days ago #381 by Valentine
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    • MageOhki wrote: I can say this: *Sneeerk* Anyone else guess?


    I know I have at least one right.
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    • Dragonsfyre, Whitman.
    Backtrack, Poe (Have we seen Backtrack yet?)
    Kenshin, Twain.
    Hikaru, Melville.
    Victor Rivera, Twain.
    Lapin, Poe.
    Invictus, Emmerson.
    Calliope, Poe.
    Eisenmadel, Poe.
    AJ, Emmerson.
    Nick, Twain.
    Cerulea, Poe.
    Shieldwall, Twain.
    Glyph, Melville.

    That's a lot of characters.
    9 years 6 days ago #383 by NeoMagus
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    • annachie wrote: Invictus, Emmerson...


    Wait...what? :blink: :huh:
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    Second guess - 1 fewer right than the first guess - but two more that are right that the first guess had wrong
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    • MageOhki wrote: I can say this: *Sneeerk* Anyone else guess?

    Nope. I'll get it wrong.
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    • NeoMagus wrote:

    annachie wrote: Invictus, Emmerson...


    Wait...what? :blink: :huh:

    brainfart. Should have been Dickinson.
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    • What? No-one's going to guess that DF's anger management issues, her uncontrollable flaming, and unstable temperament are going to land her in Hawthorne?

    I am shocked.
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    • elrodw wrote: What? No-one's going to guess that DF's anger management issues, her uncontrollable flaming, and unstable temperament are going to land her in Hawthorne?

    I am shocked.


    I figure it's entirely too appropriate. Why have all of the above occur in an environment established to handle exactly that and more, when it could happen somewhere else where the ramifications are greater? :-p
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    • I guess Dragonsfyre is going to be the Tennyo of Gen2... housed in one of the regular cottages yadda yadda found to be dangerous yadda yadda railroaded into moving to Hawthorne yadda yadda...

    (No, not really. I trust you won't rehash the same exact tropes from Gen1. There are so many other tropes to be explored...)
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    • elrodw wrote: What? No-one's going to guess that DF's anger management issues, her uncontrollable flaming, and unstable temperament are going to land her in Hawthorne?

    I am shocked.


    Nothing wrong with her temperament :P

    I'll give you the anger management mind...:)
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    • Well there are some assumptions that have to be made.

    Will Glyph admit to Whateley that she's a changling?
    Will Lapin, who is publically out as a changeling, be put in Poe or does Whateley consider doing so too big a risk to Poe's secret.
    is Dragonfyre safe enough for a normal cottage, considering tey allowed her on a normal flight I'd say yes.
    could Nick live in a normal sized room or would that force him into Hawthorn?
    Would they risk having someone who is literally hung like a horse in a co ed dorm?

    The list goes on.
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    • Astrodragon wrote:

    elrodw wrote: What? No-one's going to guess that DF's anger management issues, her uncontrollable flaming, and unstable temperament are going to land her in Hawthorne?

    I am shocked.


    Nothing wrong with her temperament :P

    I'll give you the anger management mind...:)

    What does she follow the "Remove the source of anger from the vicinity to feel better" philosophy, without care for the condition in which it leaves said vicinity?
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    • I am having so much fun watching all the speculation and conjecture about HOW and WHEN I'm going to return to form and torture Laura. This is huge amounts of fun! And people are expecting me to slip up and accidentally give a clue or two about in October when she ....

    Gotcha! You were expecting - hoping for - a slipup, weren't you?

    Sorry! :twisted:
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    • annachie wrote: Will Lapin, who is publically out as a changeling, be put in Poe or does Whateley consider doing so too big a risk to Poe's secret.


    I don't think that the risk is too big. I mean, Ayla was publicly intersex without being a danger to Poe. The big danger is when a student on campus changes genders, and then moves to Poe - because it forms a connection between the two events. But there's no reason for other students to realize that it was Lapin's changeling status that put her in Poe (as opposed to, say, mental trauma).


    Of course, we've all been assuming that the dorms haven't changed much. A decade is plenty of time to add another dorm, or make other dorms coed, or to restructure them entirely.
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    • Arcanist Lupus wrote: Of course, we've all been assuming that the dorms haven't changed much. A decade is plenty of time to add another dorm, or make other dorms coed, or to restructure them entirely.


    Or they were smashed by a meteor storm when the asteroid on collision course with Earth as part of a supervillain scheme to blackmail China was intercepted, but the redirection effort failed due to a faulty upper stage because the plans stolen from Goodkind Rocket Industries were incomplete, breaking it into pieces instead, many of which rained upon Whateley, by chancing hitting only the cottages (except Poe) and the groundskeeping building - and by the way, there's a new canoeing pond on campus - but the smoking craters where the cottages used to be were filled in with rubble from the remains of the buildings in downtown Boston (which was also hit) and new cottages were erected to closely resemble the remodeled Poe, but with better insulation and paint that wasn't the drab institutional beige that the terrible past group Wondercute had described as "yucky!"
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    • elrodw wrote: ... the plans stolen from Goodkind Rocket Industries were incomplete...


    That makes me sad... many Bothans died to bring us this information.
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    • elrodw wrote:

    Arcanist Lupus wrote: Of course, we've all been assuming that the dorms haven't changed much. A decade is plenty of time to add another dorm, or make other dorms coed, or to restructure them entirely.


    Or they were smashed by a meteor storm when the asteroid on collision course with Earth as part of a supervillain scheme to blackmail China was intercepted, but the redirection effort failed due to a faulty upper stage because the plans stolen from Goodkind Rocket Industries were incomplete, breaking it into pieces instead, many of which rained upon Whateley, by chancing hitting only the cottages (except Poe) and the groundskeeping building - and by the way, there's a new canoeing pond on campus - but the smoking craters where the cottages used to be were filled in with rubble from the remains of the buildings in downtown Boston (which was also hit) and new cottages were erected to closely resemble the remodeled Poe, but with better insulation and paint that wasn't the drab institutional beige that the terrible past group Wondercute had described as "yucky!"


    Wow, those are some good pills. Share, please.

    Also, wow, so close in all the speculation in some cases, yet so far away. Gives me hope that you will all never guess the M night shamalamadingdong twists we have coming.
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    • Nagrij wrote:

    elrodw wrote:

    Arcanist Lupus wrote: Of course, we've all been assuming that the dorms haven't changed much. A decade is plenty of time to add another dorm, or make other dorms coed, or to restructure them entirely.


    Or they were smashed by a meteor storm when the asteroid on collision course with Earth as part of a supervillain scheme to blackmail China was intercepted, but the redirection effort failed due to a faulty upper stage because the plans stolen from Goodkind Rocket Industries were incomplete, breaking it into pieces instead, many of which rained upon Whateley, by chancing hitting only the cottages (except Poe) and the groundskeeping building - and by the way, there's a new canoeing pond on campus - but the smoking craters where the cottages used to be were filled in with rubble from the remains of the buildings in downtown Boston (which was also hit) and new cottages were erected to closely resemble the remodeled Poe, but with better insulation and paint that wasn't the drab institutional beige that the terrible past group Wondercute had described as "yucky!"


    Wow, those are some good pills. Share, please.

    Also, wow, so close in all the speculation in some cases, yet so far away. Gives me hope that you will all never guess the M night shamalamadingdong twists we have coming.


    Shhh... we can't tell them that Whateley's really in a forest just outside Boston of 2054, the Aliens were just trying to talk to us through the corn, if Ayla didn't have phase-shifting powers her bones would snap like weak twigs because she's really the big-bad villain of the series and Franklin Delarose was dead throughout almost the whole movie.
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