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Question Hollow/Dice Dicussion

7 years 5 days ago #1 by Iwasforger03
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  • Hello everyone, this is the thread for discussion/feedback of my newly posted work in need of just that. I'm hoping for some proper feedback from anyone who liked it or is interested in helping. Did you like it? Which parts? Where did I lose you? was something particularly bad or good? Were there any formatting issues you spotted I need to be aware of? Did any of the puns make you groan in pain?

    Also if anyone can answer this question: is there an indentation coding for this sight/setup so I can indent my paragraphs?

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    6 years 11 months ago #2 by Iwasforger03
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  • Chapter 2 is up! Lots to read, lots to see, lots to... oh god.

    I'm... debating, well, really I'm not. I plan to convert this to a Gen 2 fanfic. I just need to dig up a few things, and change a bunch of stuff in chapter 1, mostly relating to exactly where the idea behind Hollow's powers came from. And the date stamp, obviously.

    It amuses me insanely that if I update this to gen 2, This now happens at the tail end of the very day Samurai accepted the burden that would change him into Okami. I... well I had no friggin idea about that until now, I hadn't read Gen 2 at all when I started this. Still, that's not the only insane coincidence I'm finding, and all of them are just making me chuckle REALLY hard.

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  • I didn't know if you wanted it by PM or here for the second chapter, but because maybe it will elicit a discussion I have decided to post it here :

    Thoughts scene by scene (as usual, even questions are not actual questions, you don't have to answer. Those are only the thoughts that went through my mind while reading it) and typos :
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    General thought :

    I still can't really talk about the plot. It's really action focused (I am not saying this is a bad thing). Elaine seems interesting and I expect a Heel-face turn latter on (or a self sacrifice to help the heroes).
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  • Arigato. I'm working out some scene setting to hopefully work my plot into it, but yes, I admit it's rather heavy on action. Lots going on. I've made the pointed out corrections to typos, thank you for that! I'm hoping to have part 3 out by Wednesday morning. Once I've got it all reviewed and corrected for typos, I'm going to convert it to a proper WhatIf and get it published.

    KC Knights are local super team. They are down a member, and Lionheart had an... interesting past. He was not originally a British Citizen, and his knighthood is quite recent.

    Scintillation actually HAS met Ito... many times, very painfully, often after being thrown into the ground or a few minutes prior.

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  • Elaine... I forgot to address that. I got lots planned for Elaine. Her situation isn't entirely clear, genderwise, nor will it be clear quickly. She could be projecting a bit on these guys and being called "sir." Or she could be right on the money, and forgetting they're as scared of the boss as she is. Or maybe her boss considers it gender neutral. Heck, maybe he lied and said she prefers being called "sir." Who knows?

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  • I'm writing a quick note here to encourage you to keep going.
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  • I appreciate the encouragement and interest, but if you could give me fuller feedback I'd appreciate it. Stream of consciousness reactions, any thoughts, anything you liked or really didn't, etc.

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  • Chapter 3 is finally up. After an unexpectedly emotional night, my muse was in a very... cooperative mood, and I hammered out what I feel is appropriate to be called Chapter 3. As ever, please offer me any feedback or reactions you might have.

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    6 years 11 months ago - 6 years 11 months ago #9 by Malady
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  • Fricking Finally started reading!

    Aww! Yeah! RescueRomance! ... Gonna go chapter by chapter, 'cause I don't feel like an ArchiveBinge. Yes. I feel you write enough per chapter for 3 of them to count. Congrats!

    Chapter 1 Funniest Quotes [ Click to expand ]



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    6 years 11 months ago #10 by Iwasforger03
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  • The illusion created fake dice pointing left, going straight was correct.

    I will fix other typos soon, now that I am aware of them. Thank you for starting to read, Malady!

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    6 years 11 months ago #11 by Iwasforger03
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  • Glad you liked it, nice choice of favorite quotes.

    I believe I fixed all errors and typos pointed out, except the line "his wounded hands she had this done." That line is read exactly how it's supposed to be, and no, it doesn't make any sense. Eventually, maybe, possibly, it will. There is an explanation. I just haven't provided it yet.

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    6 years 11 months ago #12 by Iwasforger03
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  • I should note that I have updated Chapter 1 since you read it Malady. It has been corrected for Gen 2, the date is now the 12th of December, the year of our lord 2015.

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  • Well, I don't know how the timing affects events of the first chapter, but I guess it'll affect the rest of the story a whole lot!

    Thanks for the notice!
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  • Chapter 4 is now up for your viewing pleasure, and it's the longest update yet. Thanks for reading for as long as you have, enjoy!

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    6 years 11 months ago - 6 years 11 months ago #15 by Malady
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  • I fixed up your corrections in my google doc, haven't transferred them to the posted bits yet.

    The Froggy bit I'll need to work on, but suffice to say Elaine has a nickname she's not fond of, and it's a bloody good thing somebody else already took it as a codename.

    As for sacrificing both... she didn't need both, but she still had to kill both. So she used both. Master's orders are absolute, especially when she's terrified.

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  • Excellent description of the internal dialogue of Stockholm Syndrome.

    And nice method of Dice adapting his base power-set, into something more flexibly applied.

    Looking forward to the next episodes.


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    6 years 11 months ago #18 by Iwasforger03
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  • Mister D wrote: Excellent description of the internal dialogue of Stockholm Syndrome.

    And nice method of Dice adapting his base power-set, into something more flexibly applied.

    Looking forward to the next episodes.


    Thanks for noticing. I'd actually completely forgotten the name of the bloody condition. Stockholm Syndrome had slipped my mind, but that's my basic intent.

    As for Dice, good eye.

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    6 years 11 months ago #19 by Malady
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  • Editting is finished for chapter 3 proofreading!

    Thank you so much Malady, you've helped me a lot with just spotting flaws and improving writing and ease of reading! Thank you!

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  • Thank you Malady! I seem to have found and fixed everything you mentioned and updated accordingly. Glad you're enjoying it and your help is extremely appreciated!

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    6 years 11 months ago - 6 years 11 months ago #23 by Esar
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  • Chapter 3:

    Thoughts Scene by Scene :
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    Thank you so much for your assistance, and I hope that you enjoyed it and continue to do so!

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  • And now chapter 5 is up! WOOHOO! I felt great getting this finished last night and this morning. A good productive night. I'm excited to be so close to finished with this first story, so I can move on to others! This will be awesome!

    As always, please provide words of encouragement, feedback, proof-reading, and anything else helpful you can! Thank you for reading!

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  • This chapter is excellent. It really adds a great deal to the story. Keep going!
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  • Diced (in this instance) we have played dice (gambled) with Jack o' Shadows. Someone is a Robert Jordan fan.
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  • Well, it goes:

    diced with Jak’o’Shadows [...] dancing with Jak’o’Shadows,


    So, I'm confused about which one...
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  • Dancing with Jak'o'Shadows was a typo, it was supposed to be diced both times.

    Yes, I am a Robert Jordan fan.

    Thank you Malady, you're a massive help!

    Glad folks have enjoyed the chapter this time around! I had a lot of fun writing it, and I appreciate all the proofreading and positive feedback I'm getting!

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  • Part 6 is up! The final part! The story, for now, has come to a pause. This piece of our tale is over, but Dice and Hollow aren't done yet!

    Malady, I hope you're happy. Your insistence resulted in my coming to the decision to include something extra.

    Now I need to finish editing and cleaning the story, and write the prologue. I had determined that the story needs a new beginning, or rather, what is there is fine. However, that is not where it should begin. It must begin a bit sooner, so I have a little more to write.

    Thank you all for reading for so long! Before adding the prologue, my story has already passed sixty thousand words. For me, this is something of a personal milestone. I've only once more reached that word count on a story entirely on my own. Thank you for being with me, for encouraging me, and for assisting with the proofreading and editing. More still to do! must get this ready for becoming a proper What IF. Many thanks ya'll!

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  • Chapter 6 response. A bit messy [ Click to expand ]


    Don't take my pokes at the innuendo and implications too seriously... Most of my comments are trying for humor where it's not awe.
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  • I've been following your story for a while now and as you have finished the tale of "Dice & Hollow" Part one, I felt it was time to thank you :)
    I found the story very interesting and a good bit different from other works on the site.
    Dice and Hollow, with Dice having been alone for so long and Hollow feeling alone now, will I suspect( depending on your muse) become after lots of adventures a Formidable team B)

    Looking forward to "Part 2" :)
    Your story has the potential to become even more compelling after you have done your clean up and extra writing. Can't wait to read the finished What IF version :)
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  • Hollow is 15 right now. Dice has been on the run for over two and a half years, and was fifteen himself when he started running.

    Yes, Hollow was attending University at 15.

    Thank you Malady, corrections made and posted shortly. I had to toss in Endeavor's little "nudge" for Calville and Froggy because I just couldn't accept it happening otherwise. She'd been either too scared or too squicked. Calville does, after all, willingly work for a supervillain who engages in kidnapping and rape.

    I don't intend to actually show anything on screen that would surpass a pg-13 rating. Probably. If I do it by accident, I can go fix it later.

    Thank you Wavehead for your words of congratulations and encouragement! It's good to hear from you finally!

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  • Iwasforger03 wrote: Thank you Malady, corrections made and posted shortly. I had to toss in Endeavor's little "nudge" for Calville and Froggy because I just couldn't accept it happening otherwise. She'd been either too scared or too squicked. Calville does, after all, willingly work for a supervillain who engages in kidnapping and rape.

    I don't intend to actually show anything on screen that would surpass a pg-13 rating. Probably. If I do it by accident, I can go fix it later.

    Thank you Wavehead for your words of congratulations and encouragement! It's good to hear from you finally!


    You're welcome! ... True, that would basically be the only way, unless you go the long route with making Calville sympathetic to Froggy, like doing the job is the only way to get quick money for the treatment an IllGirl little sister needs or something...

    Maybe Endeavor pays the big bucks for the best in the biz or something... Maybe he buys some guys from his Master, or something... Or his Oracle helped him pick the best people, and somehow, Calville was one of the best, as predicted by his Oracle, etc.

    Yeah! Cool to see you post, Wavehead! I saw your thankses, and its nice to see you post at last!
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  • Malady wrote:

    Iwasforger03 wrote: Thank you Malady, corrections made and posted shortly. I had to toss in Endeavor's little "nudge" for Calville and Froggy because I just couldn't accept it happening otherwise. She'd been either too scared or too squicked. Calville does, after all, willingly work for a supervillain who engages in kidnapping and rape.

    I don't intend to actually show anything on screen that would surpass a pg-13 rating. Probably. If I do it by accident, I can go fix it later.

    Thank you Wavehead for your words of congratulations and encouragement! It's good to hear from you finally!


    You're welcome! ... True, that would basically be the only way, unless you go the long route with making Calville sympathetic to Froggy, like doing the job is the only way to get quick money for the treatment an IllGirl little sister needs or something...

    Maybe Endeavor pays the big bucks for the best in the biz or something... Maybe he buys some guys from his Master, or something... Or his Oracle helped him pick the best people, and somehow, Calville was one of the best, as predicted by his Oracle, etc.

    Yeah! Cool to see you post, Wavehead! I saw your thankses, and its nice to see you post at last!


    *Whistles maliciously* I have no idea what you speak of when you bring up "the long route." That obviously has nothing to do with possibly conflicting with other long term goals and plans I have for these characters. None whatsoever.

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  • Iwasforger03 wrote:

    Malady wrote:

    Iwasforger03 wrote: I had to toss in Endeavor's little "nudge" for Calville and Froggy because I just couldn't accept it happening otherwise. She'd been either too scared or too squicked. Calville does, after all, willingly work for a supervillain who engages in kidnapping and rape.


    True, that would basically be the only way, unless you go the long route with making Calville sympathetic to Froggy, like doing the job is the only way to get quick money for the treatment an IllGirl little sister needs or something...


    *Whistles maliciously* I have no idea what you speak of when you bring up "the long route." That obviously has nothing to do with possibly conflicting with other long term goals and plans I have for these characters. None whatsoever.


    Hmm... Interesting... I don't have much speculation there... Why a quick romance is needed... Ah. Calville needs Elaine to save him, in the near future, for some reason! Possibly with the life-transfer flame-ability...

    Also, the Phoenix is awake... How that'll change things, I wonder...
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  • A very short prologue has been added. I am still going through the story and slowly cleaning up errors and inconsistencies nobody has caught yet, but that's been made very easy by all the prior assistance I've been given.

    Thank you all for reading!

    You can find the prologue in either the first post or the last one. It is in both places in the forum posts, but will be only in its proper location once this is converted to a proper WhatIF.

    Once that happens, I will still take commentary here, but I will cease to update the original Project Thread posts.

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  • Thanks Malady, fixed the issues, though haven't updated the post.

    Missouri Academy is an actual place, though it's closing soon. The nickname is real as well.

    Powers manifestations have been shown to occur in a number of different ways depending on the student. As for Hollow's particular manifestation? Aspects of the reason she felt so hot won't be fully explained for a very long time, I suspect.

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  • Chapter 4 :
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    I need some sleep.

    Sorry that I am not as fast I as I could be, I will try to finish it during the weekend.
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  • Thank you for your reactions and suggestions! It does take tension out of his fight with Endeavor, I'll see about reorganizing that part for the WhatIF.

    I'll read through that all again.

    Thank you so much for this, Esar, it's really a big help to me getting this ironed out and straightened and the like. Please, sleep, and don't apologize for taking the time to do it right while being in the middle of life. Life waits for nobody.

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  • I'm working on accounting and reviewing what you've covered, thank you for the feedback!

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  • Reopening this thread as Part 1 is officially up for public access!

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  • I believe that I've read all of what you have up and must say that this is an intense, action packed story that kept me at the computer for far too long. Excellent first part. Now I'm excited to see what else the gods have in store for Dice.
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  • Thank you Anne. I am also excited to see what is in store for Dice. But first... There's something else I have to finish! Sorry, only one spoiler allowed for it: This is, technically, Scintillation's origin story.

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