Question The Drow

lighttech wrote: "dark elves"
crystalhall.wikia.com/wiki/Bova----march 5 2007
Her Drow body type differs from the one Jobe and Belphoebe have, being petite and pixie-is

crystalhall.wikia.com/wiki/Freight_Train 3/8-9
Her new body type as a Drow is tall, thin, sleek and athletic-looking, like a pro volleyball player

Cryptic wrote:

lighttech wrote: "dark elves"
crystalhall.wikia.com/wiki/Bova----march 5 2007
Her Drow body type differs from the one Jobe and Belphoebe have, being petite and pixie-is

crystalhall.wikia.com/wiki/Freight_Train 3/8-9
Her new body type as a Drow is tall, thin, sleek and athletic-looking, like a pro volleyball player

No, I mean some where in one of the stories Jobe comes out and says "I made X number of different Drow specimines, I wanted the girls to have a variety to choose from."

I walked in and found out. I had seen the ‘curvy sexpot’ body form with Jobe and Belphoebe, and the ‘petite cutie’ body form with Bova. It appeared that Jobe was at least a student of the female form, because Freight Train didn’t look like either version – once you got past the black skin and elf ears. She had been a big bruiser before, and clearly unhappy about it. But now she was a tall, thin, sleek, athletic-looking hottie. She had a body most pro volleyball women would kill for, or at least spike for. I had to wonder if Jobe was letting his new drows choose their look.

konzill wrote: If I remember correclty he said that his formula is fully customisable in terms of body shape, and the girls that have volunteered basiclaly got whatever look they wanted.

Cryptic wrote:

lighttech wrote: "dark elves"
crystalhall.wikia.com/wiki/Bova----march 5 2007
Her Drow body type differs from the one Jobe and Belphoebe have, being petite and pixie-is

crystalhall.wikia.com/wiki/Freight_Train 3/8-9
Her new body type as a Drow is tall, thin, sleek and athletic-looking, like a pro volleyball player

No, I mean some where in one of the stories Jobe comes out and says "I made X number of different Drow specimines, I wanted the girls to have a variety to choose from."

“An entire NATION of drows?” Sizzle asked incredulously. “Are you kidding? It’s weird enough with TWO of you, looking exactly the same! But an entire Nation, all looking the same? And exactly how many do you need for a nation?”

“We’re NOT all going to look the same!” Jobe went into typical devisor lecture mode. “I put a LOT of work into designing this body, and I explored as many possible looks and configurations as I possibly could, and I executed genome models to see exactly how many permutations I could work while maintaining enzymic cohesion. While this configuration IS eminently the most desirable of all, I thrashed out no less than 78 possible physiques for my perfect bride, ranging from petite little pixies to strapping amazons, all with their own distinctive look, and all drop-dead gorgeous. This Bova girl – IF she meets my stringent standards for the Drow – will have the entire range of somatotypes-”

“Somatotype is a pretentious way of saying ‘body type’,” Kate explained for Misty and Sizzle.

Jobe shot Kate a nasty look, which Kate returned with her usual glacial composure. “Bova will have the entire range of somatotypes to choose from,” Jobe finished. “It will merely be a matter of picking the perfect physique to send the appropriate message. Like THIS.” Jobe pulled a jumper from the rack and held it in front of her with a triumphant grin.

The rest of us looked at Jobe’s choice with unanimous disdain. “Well, we can hope that Bova’s got better taste,” Hazard said as she took the offending item and returned it to the rack. “And a better selection.”

DanZilla wrote:

Cryptic wrote:

lighttech wrote: "dark elves"
crystalhall.wikia.com/wiki/Bova----march 5 2007
Her Drow body type differs from the one Jobe and Belphoebe have, being petite and pixie-is

crystalhall.wikia.com/wiki/Freight_Train 3/8-9
Her new body type as a Drow is tall, thin, sleek and athletic-looking, like a pro volleyball player

No, I mean some where in one of the stories Jobe comes out and says "I made X number of different Drow specimines, I wanted the girls to have a variety to choose from."

From Saks and Violence ...

“An entire NATION of drows?” Sizzle asked incredulously. “Are you kidding? It’s weird enough with TWO of you, looking exactly the same! But an entire Nation, all looking the same? And exactly how many do you need for a nation?”

“We’re NOT all going to look the same!” Jobe went into typical devisor lecture mode. “I put a LOT of work into designing this body, and I explored as many possible looks and configurations as I possibly could, and I executed genome models to see exactly how many permutations I could work while maintaining enzymic cohesion. While this configuration IS eminently the most desirable of all, I thrashed out no less than 78 possible physiques for my perfect bride, ranging from petite little pixies to strapping amazons, all with their own distinctive look, and all drop-dead gorgeous. This Bova girl – IF she meets my stringent standards for the Drow – will have the entire range of somatotypes-”

“Somatotype is a pretentious way of saying ‘body type’,” Kate explained for Misty and Sizzle.

Jobe shot Kate a nasty look, which Kate returned with her usual glacial composure. “Bova will have the entire range of somatotypes to choose from,” Jobe finished. “It will merely be a matter of picking the perfect physique to send the appropriate message. Like THIS.” Jobe pulled a jumper from the rack and held it in front of her with a triumphant grin.

The rest of us looked at Jobe’s choice with unanimous disdain. “Well, we can hope that Bova’s got better taste,” Hazard said as she took the offending item and returned it to the rack. “And a better selection.”

Soooo... " 78 possible physiques for my perfect bride, ranging from petite little pixies to strapping amazons, all with their own distinctive look, and all drop-dead gorgeous"

lighttech wrote:

So this means that Jobe will have 78 brides in some strange way or handmaidens?
That kid needs some SERIOUS mental help!

DanZilla wrote:

lighttech wrote:

So this means that Jobe will have 78 brides in some strange way or handmaidens?
That kid needs some SERIOUS mental help!

Nope... just that his excessive compulsion for completeness led him to creating 78 perfect ones he could choose his one bride from... possibly more but he wasn't planning on 78 from that passage... he just wanted that many options.

JG wrote:

lighttech wrote: Come on this IS Jobe we are talking about? She will do it...she built them and with enough 'volunteers' it will happen I mean you don't have 78 options unless YOU wanted them!

Pokedrow---have to DNA slice them all!

These poor drow are homeless, without owners to feed and care for them. Their wanton excess and native immorality means there are too many of them released on the streets. in order to avoid thisa horrible tragedy, please... Do the right thing.

Spay or neuter your Drow today...

lighttech wrote: if the Jobe Drow are a separate race from Sidhe--I think canon is still out on that

and then we still don't know if they are a race that existed in the past too? as Aunghadhail mentioned them in a way--in passing

lighttech wrote:

JG wrote:

lighttech wrote: Come on this IS Jobe we are talking about? She will do it...she built them and with enough 'volunteers' it will happen I mean you don't have 78 options unless YOU wanted them!

Pokedrow---have to DNA slice them all!

These poor drow are homeless, without owners to feed and care for them. Their wanton excess and native immorality means there are too many of them released on the streets. in order to avoid thisa horrible tragedy, please... Do the right thing.

Spay or neuter your Drow today...

Just think---immortal+hard to kill and might breed like rabbits! in a few hundred years Jobe might have the population of China to contend with!

Valentine wrote: Go back and look again, that is 78 FEMALE forms, Jobe never once mentioned creating a MALE form. There are no male Drow, and if he didn't fix the Sidhe and humans can't interbreed, there won't be any Drow kids, unless Jobe works up a male Drow formula.

I wonder if he knew Sidhe and humans can't interbreed.

Valentine wrote: Go back and look again, that is 78 FEMALE forms, Jobe never once mentioned creating a MALE form. There are no male Drow, and if he didn't fix the Sidhe and humans can't interbreed, there won't be any Drow kids, unless Jobe works up a male Drow formula.

I wonder if he knew Sidhe and humans can't interbreed.

Sir Lee wrote: Not to mention that Jobette is painfully aware that if she has normal hetero-sex with any guy, she will become his sex-addicted slave. So she is likely to stay strictly lesbian, at least until she devises a countermeasure. She might be willing to bear an heir through some sort of assisted reproduction technique, though... but it is likely to require a lot of GizPressure. I mean, pregnancy is likely to cut down some on her lab productivity, and THAT is bound to make Jobe really grumpy.

Iwasforger03 wrote: Yeah, that would do it.

NJM1564 wrote:

Iwasforger03 wrote: Yeah, that would do it.

Oh that's right and she wouldn't have even had to try to do it. She was transformed do to the artificial regen factor in her serum. And that factor can be transmitted sexually.

Iwasforger03 wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

Iwasforger03 wrote: Yeah, that would do it.

Oh that's right and she wouldn't have even had to try to do it. She was transformed do to the artificial regen factor in her serum. And that factor can be transmitted sexually.

Of course, that would mean Jobe could never have sex again...

NJM1564 wrote:

Iwasforger03 wrote: Yeah, that would do it.

Oh that's right and she wouldn't have even had to try to do it. She was transformed do to the artificial regen factor in her serum. And that factor can be transmitted sexually.

DanZilla wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

Iwasforger03 wrote: Yeah, that would do it.

Oh that's right and she wouldn't have even had to try to do it. She was transformed do to the artificial regen factor in her serum. And that factor can be transmitted sexually.

I may be misremembering things but WHERE has this ever been said?

The Second Book of Jobe:Part 3: Verses wrote: Darcy may not be into girls (though you couldn’t prove it by me), but I sure as hell was. And she was an exemplar three, and pretty stunning in her own right. And in bed with me. And nearly naked. So after my body stopped vibrating and I regained control of my extremities, I fixed the “nearly” part of “nearly naked.” Then I practiced some techniques of my own on her, such as The Finger Family Tours the Curves. And I upped the ante by performing Dr. Tongue Greets the Tuna Taco.

I have reason to believe that she appreciated my exhibition. When she had finally caught her breath, she admitted, “I’m not really hungry, but it’s really getting to me, smelling that bowl of almonds. Where are they?”

Somewhat embarrassed, I admitted to certain details of drow physiology.

“You’re kidding.” She seemed to say that a lot.

“No, really,” I said. “Taste, too.”

“Damn. I’ve never… I mean, another girl, that’s kind of disgusting, isn’t it?”

I shrugged. “I have recently learned that it is as good to give, as to receive. Well… No, it’s not. But giving is nice, too.”

“Damn,” she said again. “But… almond? You’re going to have to distract me, so I can get through it.”

And thus, we rediscovered the number sixty-nine.

Sometime later, she mentioned, “Wow, that’s good drow. I really do like almond.”

I, unfortunately, was unable to answer, being in the grips of something akin to an epileptic seizure.

And so things passed, until dinner.

JG wrote:

Malady wrote: Are Drow Essence-dependent like Sidhe?

Not even slightly.

And they're not true Sidhe.

At least... Not as far as anyone can tell.

Kristin Darken wrote:

Katssun wrote: It's a bit hard to fact check, because the Second Book of Jobe isn't accessible right now.

What do you mean not accessible? It's in the Original Timeline collection. Do the following:
[helpful steps]
If/when we ever get tags working properly, you'll be able to find pretty much any story by characters in it, the year/month it occurred in, its plot arc, its author, and a number of other tag based options. Time... never enough of it.

Iwasforger03 wrote: The sort by author option often leaves stories missing. For instance, I used sort by author as part of checking for all the available Jadis stories, and missed Diamonds #3 as a result.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Iwasforger03 wrote: The sort by author option often leaves stories missing. For instance, I used sort by author as part of checking for all the available Jadis stories, and missed Diamonds #3 as a result.

/sigh

Yeah, there's some background things that are not quite fixed yet.

We have a thread for listing the problems with the migrated stories, just add a post there pointing out the problem and exactly which stories are effected (i.e. Which are not showing up) and we'll look into it.

No promises how soon though, Joomla is throwing major spanners at us at the moment.

(Well, I say 'us', actually is Kristin that's desperately trying to fix everything and getting buried under the problems).

DrBender wrote: Whateley Universe Likely Answer: If actual Drow/Svartalfar existed during the reign of the Sidhe, they were probably a created race with optimised genetics for jobs that the Sidhe needed done. In particular in the war against the GOOs, low cunning and ruthlessness is of great use to warrior/assassins, as would being adapted to darkness. As a created race, they would have been given colouration that would help them do their jobs rather than what would come naturally through evolution. So Jobe's kind of following in the Sidhe's footsteps.

Note: I'm theorizing, there's no 'word of god' on this one.

Cryptic wrote:

Valentine wrote: Go back and look again, that is 78 FEMALE forms, Jobe never once mentioned creating a MALE form. There are no male Drow, and if he didn't fix the Sidhe and humans can't interbreed, there won't be any Drow kids, unless Jobe works up a male Drow formula.

I wonder if he knew Sidhe and humans can't interbreed.

he had been working on a Male Drow formula at one point, but he was having issues keeping his sample of male Sidhe DNA from poofing on him, and he may have just decided to forget about it as the effects of The Mind is but the play thing of the Body set in.

Iwasforger03 wrote: Also given Jobe's mastery of genetics, I suspect that while actual Sidhe can't interbreed... Jobe's Drow probably CAN. This is JOBE.

Granted, he might have overlooked it, but if he considered it for even a second, he'd have made sure they could breed with humans somehow.

Anne wrote:

Iwasforger03 wrote: Also given Jobe's mastery of genetics, I suspect that while actual Sidhe can't interbreed... Jobe's Drow probably CAN. This is JOBE.

Granted, he might have overlooked it, but if he considered it for even a second, he'd have made sure they could breed with humans somehow.

Because what good is the perfect wife of the next emperor of Caradonia if you can't eventually get an heir on her?

Kristin Darken wrote: After... well... that's another story.

Kristin Darken wrote: This is pretty standard science, you know. Outside of fantasy games and space operas, aliens / species won't be able to interbreed. Even where the mechanism is the same, the genetics can't combine and produce offspring.

MM2ss wrote:

Kristin Darken wrote: This is pretty standard science, you know. Outside of fantasy games and space operas, aliens / species won't be able to interbreed. Even where the mechanism is the same, the genetics can't combine and produce offspring.

I just have to nit pick on this a little bit. Being a redneck and having been around animals most of my life.

Some different species can interbreed.

Rose Bunny wrote: I had to jump through hoops to impregnate my character in Eire, stating that at least one of the johns was a sidhe.

MM2ss wrote: I have not found any evidence of cross-genus breeding however (with the caveat that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, maybe it does happen, I just have not found it).

MM2ss wrote: I know very little about plants to be honest. I tend to focus on the ones I can cook and eat (corn and okra are personal favorites). As for orchids, I can't even keep one alive for a week, no joke, I think have killed some of them by just walking into the same room...

null0trooper wrote:
For many of those that don't require special conditions to thrive, treat them like teenagers. A bit of neglect does wonders.

MM2ss wrote:

null0trooper wrote:
For many of those that don't require special conditions to thrive, treat them like teenagers. A bit of neglect does wonders.

Neglect? Hmm, so I shouldn't have taken away the keys and smacked the plant on the stem with a ruler while yelling at it to clean up the mess in its' pot?

ShadowedSin wrote: To clarify I was confused if Sidhe were considered sterile, not that they can interbreed.