Question The five Different Courts

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"Tír na nÓg?" Laneth asked. "It is a land of perpetual youth, home of the Sidhe and the Unseelie, some call it the March of Dreams..."

elrodw wrote: Actually, there were six courts, but the court of Up (space) was down with a cold the day they took pictures for the yearbook, so everyone tends to forget them

Iwasforger03 wrote: Ok, I was hoping to get a little more info on the five fold courts for a character concept I'm working on.

What court might the unseelie Fey have been part of? Were the Sidhe unique to the Court of Wood in the West?

Have we seen other members of the courts outside Anomaly that don't fall under the dominion of Fey/Aunghadhail?

Lastly: I'm thinking about a character slightly derived from Maeve and Mab in design/personality, and trying to determine if she fits the Court of the East which was focused on Water, or if "Winter" fits the court of the North better.

Iwasforger03 wrote: Seelie and Unseelie are the divisions of the Faerie according to Scottish Lore. Unseelie are associated with darker things, like winter, hunger, lust, destruction, etc. Not strictly evil, but the difference often comes across as academic.

Redcap would qualify as Unseelie, probably.

Iwasforger03 wrote: Seelie and Unseelie are the divisions of the Faerie according to Scottish Lore. Unseelie are associated with darker things, like winter, hunger, lust, destruction, etc. Not strictly evil, but the difference often comes across as academic.

Redcap would qualify as Unseelie, probably.

Mister D wrote:

Iwasforger03 wrote: Seelie and Unseelie are the divisions of the Faerie according to Scottish Lore. Unseelie are associated with darker things, like winter, hunger, lust, destruction, etc. Not strictly evil, but the difference often comes across as academic.

Redcap would qualify as Unseelie, probably.

It's not that Seelie/Unseelie split maens that either side is good or evil.

It's important to remember that they are UN-human, not IN-human.

In D'n'D alignment terms, think True Neutral, Like nature, the sun don't care if it keeps you warm or sets fire to you, it's just busy being shiny.

Yes, they have a very inventively, vengeful streak, if you really piss them off, so don't annoy them, or even better acknowledge their existence and avoid them as much as you can whilst remaining polite.

This is advice that i received from my 90-year-old scottish great-grandmother, who took this very seriously as a set of survival-based social skills..

NJM1564 wrote:

Iwasforger03 wrote: Ok, I was hoping to get a little more info on the five fold courts for a character concept I'm working on.

What court might the unseelie Fey have been part of? Were the Sidhe unique to the Court of Wood in the West?

Have we seen other members of the courts outside Anomaly that don't fall under the dominion of Fey/Aunghadhail?

Lastly: I'm thinking about a character slightly derived from Maeve and Mab in design/personality, and trying to determine if she fits the Court of the East which was focused on Water, or if "Winter" fits the court of the North better.

Unseelie sounds like unseen. As in it doesn't actually exist. It would be for those who don't get along with the proper court. Meaning it was composed of rebels, mischief makers, and criminals. You could also consider it to be the fairy underworld. or the faerie Mob.

JG wrote: but by the same token, Noms only inherited a tiny fraction of what Terra-Kashaly once was. In essence to any creature of the center court, she is functionally an infant.

JG wrote:

Valentine wrote:
So if Noms is a baby "fae" and Sara is a baby GOO, once they find Sara, who is in charge of arranging playdates?

Noms holds no relation to the Fae in any sense, whatsoever.

She is entirely Other to both the Fae and anything not of the Center Court, and wait'll you see how she and Mythos shit interact!

Technically Humans might have fallen under the blanket of the center court by dint of the fact that they understood something that got more than a few Sidhe brutally killed:

Once you step out of your cities, off the porch and into the places where the footfalls of monsters, Gods and things that would be Apex predators fall as equals, you are no longer a Lord or Lady, you are no longer a master of the world.

You are part of the food chain, and the Center Court was not civilized, except in very key and specific places and times.

“So you say,” the visage growled. “Still, when face to face with the Daughter of the Burning Oak, you RAN from the Alfar bitch!”

“There’s something different about her, this time.” The Necromancer insisted. “When I faced her as the Black Magus, she had more discipline, but less power. She has shown an exponential increase in both her power and her inner tuition. She is more now, more than the entire Mystic Six put together.”

“YOU LIE!” the visage roared with inexplicable rage. “I SUNDERED her! Her and her eight bitch sisters and their king as well! She can never be what she was.”

annachie wrote: You know, in some ways, Jade strikes me as very much the epitome of the middle court.


Makes me wonder if she is in fact an avatar of a middle court spirit, who subsumed/ is subsuming said spirit that was far too big for her hollow, and that she subconciously splits part of the spirit as the J-team as a way of coping.
Also explaining why she is developementally frozen.

Mithril then being a tool to allow her to make use of more of the spirits energy for charging up or whatever.

Schol-R-LEA wrote: Well, we know - from things mentioned by both Destiny's Wave and Wakan Tanka - that Jade is actually bound to some very powerful and dangerous spirit, or at least one is following her around somehow. It was why Pejuta was told by her spirits to keep Generator at arms' length. You may well be on to something.

While the rest of the class began chanting the summoning spell, Molly reached out and made the connection between herself and an Undine, a water elemental type of creature. Then she opened a gate for it to travel out of and into the physical world. The Undine appeared in the circle, which had filled with water. The creature flowed into a more humanoid form that looked kind of mermaidy, very attractive upper half that was thankfully covered. Molly smiled.

A few students stopped their spells and stared, awed by the speed with which Molly had done this. Molly ignored them. “Greetings, child of water.”

“Summoner. What do you ask of me?” The voice sounded strangely distorted as the voice burbled from the water itself.

Molly remembered the assignment. “I wanted to know some of your powers.”

“I am an Undine, child of Water. I can move through any liquid and affect any liquid. I can wear down mountains, drown people on dry land, I can help someone breathe under the waves. There are other things I may do if asked.”

“Thank you. I did want to know that. You have been very helpful. I release you.”

The Undine paused, looking at her with her watery eyes and then vanished. The instructor came over and said, “Excellent job. You did that so easily.”

annachie wrote: Sometimes I suspect these threads get prodded, or started, by people who know what the next release will be.

Anne wrote: Wouldn't that be a contradiction of terms? Evil incarnate on the side of good? I can see her being a force of nature. Gravity is not evil. It simply is. The same way that a Lion is not evil. It simply is. If it eats you, you made a mistake. That doesn't mean we don't do everything in our power to make sure that Lions would rather not eat us, but they really don't care, they will at times randomly eat people!

Domoviye wrote: GOO are the evil mMythos.
So Sara is nightmare incarnate, who happens to be on the good side.

Kayda 2 wrote: "She is the Kellith," Wakan Tanka interrupted my thoughts. "I sensed her when we first arrived on the school grounds."

"Who, or what, is the Kellith?"

"She is the daughter of Gothmog, the demon of lust and sex."

"Is ... is she a danger to me?" I asked nervously. I wasn't relishing the sudden thought that I'd have to fight another demon.

"No. Gothmog and the Kellith have always been neutral, and they are powerful enough that they cannot be corrupted by demons like Unhcegila and Kigatilik."

Ill Winds wrote: "Daughter." Gothmog called. "It is good to see you."

"Hello, Dad." Sara answered, caressing one of the tentacles Gothmog had extended. "It's good to see you, too."

"You're doing well at that academy." Her father told her.

"I'm working hard at it, yes." Sara nodded with a grin. "You know about my blood oath to a Shidhe, I'm sure."

"Yes, dear daughter." Gothmog's chuckle rumbled through the place that wasn't a place where he generally held court. "It is a necessary alliance. I have already spoken with the spirit that rides within your friend. I may have antecedents from that one's ancient enemies, but I was born on this world and love it fully as much as Aunghadhail does. She recognized that. The Elders will not regain their foothold on this world while I exist, or while she does. We understand each other."

"I thought you felt that way." Sara answered with a smile. "But it helps to hear you say it, father."

"That you even had to wonder." Gothmog sighed. "Is saddening."

"Oh, I never doubted that you would defend Earth." Sara soothed while kissing the tentacle that was still in her grasp. "I'm glad that bitch Eleven Queen accepts the truth where you're concerned."

"She fought our kind for longer than either you or I have existed." Gothmog reminded. "She should be suspicious, and as for bitch, have you ever heard of a true queen who wasn't?"

Panty Raid wrote: Chou growled and drew her right arm back, as if preparing to swing. Destiny's Wave appeared there in her hand, unsheathed. "Kellith, daughter of Gothmog, you have violated my trust and have earned my condemnation. Prepare to be brought into balance demon!"

"Chou, I'm sorry. I thought I had stopped doing this. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to. Stop" Sara could feel the fire on her skin, burning where the fingers held her. She needed to get out of Chou's grip and fast.

"Good bye Kellith!" Chou started the swing. Sara tried push off of Chou's body with her legs, her hands trying to wrench her loose from Chou's hand. She was almost there.

Chou's arm locked and the voice of Destiny's Wave barked out. "Chou, let her go! Sara has done nothing to you. It would not serve the balance to do this thing."

Chou glowered and struggled against the hold Destiny's Wave had on her. Sara held her action, watching nervously at the blade. She moved her hand into position to better open Chou's hand if the blade continued down. Chou hissed out, "She defiled my dreams!"

"And she is apologizing. Let...her...go!"

Chou opened her left hand and dropped Sara. The girl landed on her feet and stumbled back, out of the way. She stood there looking at the Asian girl worriedly. She didn't want to have this fight, but she would if she had to. "Chou, I'm sorry. I have been working on trying to keep from invading other people's dreams, trying to stop doing it. It was out of my control. I thought I had gotten better. I didn't mean for this to happen. I am so sorry. Please accept my apology."

Chou grimaced and turned away from the demon girl, lowering the sword. "Just go."

Sara vanished from Chou's dream. The dream itself melted.

Chou sat up in her bed eyes wide and heart pounding; Destiny's Wave was in her hand, unsheathed. She sat there panting there in the dark, blinking, trying to sleep out of her eyes. What the hell had that been? First there had been Molly, and then Sara. She remembered and blushed fiercely, her anger building again.

Destiny's Wave spoke softly. "Chou, let it go. This was not an act on purpose. She has not turned and does not need to die. If anything the pattern is starting to reveal that Sara has an important purpose to serve and must be kept alive. She is sorry for doing this thing. That was plain in her voice. You need to apologize for overreacting. She is trying to learn to shield herself from people's dreams. Part of her demon nature does this. Her control failed and the nature of your dream drew her there. It is okay."