Anything is fair game... just don't complain when someone with more Whateley-verse savvy shoots your theory out of the sky.
Posting rules: Any registered member can create threads or post to existing ones.
Question Reinforce: Don't Call Me a Pretty!
- Yolandria
-
Topic Author
Post your comments in the sections below.
Mistress of the shelter for lost and redeemable Woobies!
- Malady
-
This is so sweet! A nice romance thing! Awww!
Woah. They changed the Mutant Policing Landscape like Wow. ... And I guess they have a massive techboost from that legalness...
Founded by a Kimbette? I wanna say Jadis, but likely not? We've already seen her as Frost...
... So, he can't shift back to normal? ... Is that because he's trying to be pure Himself, or what? ... There's some kind of Form Cooldown, like being unable to be a Centaur for 1 hour after already being one... Reminds me of Jade and how her Form abilities changed after her things with Tool...
“Don’t you play stupid with me, you asshole! You were the one calling me out for being a dyke in the tunnels two nights ago!”
Adam looked over at Everhart. “So do you wanna tell her that she’s lying because I was in an MCO lockup two nights ago, or shall I?”
That seems like it might be important, if she wasn't lying...
... I was expecting him to use the title a bit more... That codename... I sorta get it? Armor? But, totally doesn't fit too well?
So much CrushBlush! ... I am a lazy, lazy troper... And am Procrasting on other things... *sigh*...
Right... Could he do non-human biologies, like replicating a high-level Regen? Or neuro-morphs? Super Dangerous... But still...
Guesses at Sidewinder Founder:
- JG
-
- Jarjaross
-
Malady wrote: Sidewinder Industries... Who is the founder??
Guesses at Sidewinder Founder:
Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ] [ Click to hide ]Jadis, Jade, Loophole.
Probably not Jade. In the paradise island stories we hear of a company called 'jinntech' or some such thing.
It could be loophole, but I doubt it. From the phone conversation the person has a significant other named Angela, unless I'm completely missing my mark. So unless mister Cody had a complete turn around on the mister I don't think it is her.
It could be Jadis but I find this just as unlikely. Jadis already knew about the whole money=power thing from her dad.
Our best clue currently is the SO named Angela. I know there is a character named Angela somewhere in Poe but I can't remember who. We find her we can extrapolate the identity of sidewinder.
My current best guess is Vamp or whoever Ayla's year 2 room mate is.
Also, yes! They are so cute together.
My only issue is that they give me an early Phase and Vox vibe. I predict trouble for our dear Adam's lovelife.
My dreams take me to far off lands and times of distant past and future. They tell what has been done, what will happen and who I am. They show me things beyond the machinations of any man. Tell me, what are dreams to you?
- JG
-
She is... a four year old child.
- Phoenix Spiritus
-
- Valentine
-
Angela number 1 Angela Holligberry assistant(?) House Parent of Whitman
Angela number 2 Angela Merenis Instructor in the Advanced Technologies Program
Angie is Freight Train
Ninja'd by JG. But I'm guessing she's sitting on her Mama's lap there at the end.
Legal squashing of KoP.
The CEO of the company had learned a few very, very important lessons from a friend about money, contracts, power, and how to wield them.
Sounds like Diamond and Phase.
If it was Jade it would be Dragon Tech, after her honey.
Jadis would have used an obscure reference to her "mom."
Not sure what Loophole would have used, but not Sidewinder. She may be a rules lawyer, but she is a straightforward rules lawyer.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- Yolandria
-
Topic Author
Lots to think about. Glad to see OC 2.0!!!
Mistress of the shelter for lost and redeemable Woobies!
- mhalpern
-
Valentine wrote: Hmmmm, two Angela's in the Wiki along with an Angie.
Angela number 1 Angela Holligberry assistant(?) House Parent of Whitman
Angela number 2 Angela Merenis Instructor in the Advanced Technologies Program
Angie is Freight Train
Ninja'd by JG. But I'm guessing she's sitting on her Mama's lap there at the end.
Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ] [ Click to hide ]Head of Sidewinder Holding.... Diamondback.
Legal squashing of KoP.
The CEO of the company had learned a few very, very important lessons from a friend about money, contracts, power, and how to wield them.
Sounds like Diamond and Phase.
If it was Jade it would be Dragon Tech, after her honey.
Jadis would have used an obscure reference to her "mom."
Not sure what Loophole would have used, but not Sidewinder. She may be a rules lawyer, but she is a straightforward rules lawyer.
I agree with your assessment on Sidewinder, On a related note each of today's stories have at least runner up quotes for my best list.
Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
- Yolandria
-
Topic Author
Things that make you go hmmmm...
Mistress of the shelter for lost and redeemable Woobies!
- Arcanist Lupus
-
Also, JG's use of tenses is making me confused and a bit nervous.
"Should" implies that Sandra still sings. "Was able" implies that she no longer can. Maybe she's just busy? *hopes really hard*You should hear my Aunt Sandra belt out the songs, she was amazing when she was able to do it.
Dawn and Adam together are really adorable.
Toison... *looks it up* means fleece. Does that make Dawn the Golden Fleece? It's a good thing the Olympians are gone.

"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
- Valentine
-
Yolandria wrote: Taking down the KoP. Was it staged? Or was it an accident? How many of OC have DFA on their MID's? Razor,Cait. If memory serves. So which one of those two was crossing the street?
Things that make you go hmmmm...
Razorback's is legally assigned.
My guess is Eldritch, and she did it deliberately.
I wonder if Adam will introduce Red to Aunt Bardue.
I love the spell they put on the table, and that Adam is the only one that can get into Outcast's Corner under Hawthorne.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- null0trooper
-
He nodded. “And the rumors are true, if it isn’t cattle or a ‘roo, it’s trying to kill you.” He paused a second, “actually I’m not so sure about the Kangas and cattle.”
2000-2010 :
Death by cattle: 33 (16 from auto accidents)
Death by roo: 18 (most from auto accidents)
Death by emu: 5
Death by critter:
Australia (2000 to 2010): 137
Florida (1999 to 2013) : 171
Florida, adjusted for 19.89M vs. 23.13M population, 14 yr vs 10 yr data collection: 142
Forum-posted ideas are freely adoptable.
WhatIF Stories: Buy the Book
Discussion Thread
- Arcanist Lupus
-
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
- OtherEric
-
- Dreamer
-
Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.
Reinforce: Don't Call Me a Pretty comments
Brother worked with the Army to keep some nasty from getting to civilized areas, MMID for Adam as a favor, big favor. A shifter and he is a legacy who is in Twain, wonder who his older brother is. Wait a moment, talk of the table his brother and friends sat at, seven years ago older brother had senior year which would be 2009, this is Razorback's little brother! Wonder if the uncle who lowjacked him and made the Stalker VI for him is actual uncle or Jericho. Sidewinder, wonder who uses that codename.
And from the sound of things and how Adam is looking around, he is bi or something more. AIs and VIs trying to break into 'Spike', yet it throws off all but one like that, dang. Ammunition on his Aunts and Uncles, is the whole of the Outcasts considered his aunts and uncles [well, except his brother] I wonder. Oh boy, some idiot who thinks normal looking kids don't belong in Twain, there are always a few. And trying to pick a fight as well, this guy is a troublemaker still.
Bwahaha, smack talk like that, Adam learned a lot from his brother and friends. Shapeshifting to look like his brother, they never see it coming. Zephyr will learn to stop running his mouth and picking fights he can't win one way or another. Chasing him around like that, too funny and teaches an idiot a well-deserved lesson. And Zephyr pissed off Caitlin, he is a moron supreme!
Oh boy, coming down to see the visage of Razorback and Zephyr punching him like that, the House Father has a rough job. Mr. Filbert having to stop the fight, Zephyr lying about how he started the fight, why he is an RA is beyond me. At least Taka clears it up what actually happened. Ouch, stuck for an hour after shapeshifting until he can revert, at least he is used to that form. And Zephyr told to learn to keep his cool with non-GSD students, good.
Rooming a rager because he is used them, knows if you don't pull the trigger, and you're good to go, always knew he was a smart kid. And no more hunting howl, poor Mr. Filbert had enough of that from his older brother. At least Kenshin was entertained by Adam's attempt to teach Zephyr why he is rude behavior is wrong. Kenshin is too nice for his own good sometimes, there are times a hard lesson is needed for someone to learn.
And confirmation that Outcasts are his Aunts and Uncles, as he mentions Aunt Sandra singing, though what does he mean when she was able to do it, hope that doesn't mean she can't sing anymore. A picture of the Outcasts all together as a poster, nice thing to hang up in their room. And living up to the Outcasts example, Adam is going to be a handful around Whateley.Human is not how you look, it's how you act.
Oh crud, elfish appearance but with clawed hands, teeth sharpened like a shark's fangs, and red hair, sounds like a Redcap to me. Rooming with a Redcap, that is going to be a challenge. Okay, at least he isn't freaking out over having Adam as a roommate, just doesn't want his stuff messed with. Nat aka Red. Adam is the perfect roommate for him with all his experience.
Bacon, that kid is owning his warthog look and then some. At least Zephyr is being more reasonable now. The old Outcast Corner hangout down near Hawthorne in the tunnels, that is going to be see some use again finally.
Nice saying and reference to the Abandon hope, all ye who enter here. All there instruments and gear still down there. Stuffed Razorback and Diamondback dolls, I would pay to have those. Dang, Spike has a personality and attitude. And using something Jack is known for."Abandon shame, all ye who enter here."
10 minutes late and Imp is his advisor, this is going to be good. Reputation for being as much a troublemaker as Jericho, Imp has a lot ahead of her in G1 to live up to that reputation. Combat Movement and Swimming, good reason to be afraid of the water, nearly being killed by a saltwater crocodile as a kid will do that to you.
Bwahaha, the banter between these two, my sides hurt. Imp has become a great advisor and teacher, especially with how she deals with the kids."Depth charges should go in the water before you do."
Dawn-Renae, the satyr girl, being sexually harassed by SlickWilly, ugh. Adam using Caitlin as a distraction to wedgie SlickWilly and get him to Dawn-Renae alone, loving Adam more and more. Taught not to talk to women like that, Adam was raised right. Him and Dawn-Renae would be a cute couple, imo.
And a friend of hers shows up, White Snake, vaguely Japanese kid covered in white scale. Sense of humor and loves Harry Potter too, Adam counters with Harry Dresden, nice.
Ouch, the puns, the puns. Toison did walk into that one though."Well he shoved a perv-boy in the mud and seems to be following me home. I was debating keeping him."
Melville the birthplace of all that is evil, it is except when it isn't, doesn't sound like much has changed there. Reference to the Cask of Amontillado, never read or seen it, though not into horror so much now. Big dopy grin on Adam's face after getting a hug from Toison. Bwahahaha, the joking around between Adam and White Snake, make it stop, my sides can't take much more. These three feel like the start of a new Outcast Corner.
Yup, Adam is definitely bi, thinking both Toison and White snake are attractive. Claws making the best guitar pick and a habit of just forming claws since he began shapeshifting, interesting. And interesting way to educate young Adam by Razor and his adopted sisters. Razorback is Adam's hero growing up, saved his life twice and their mom once, hard to not look up to a big brother like that.
Ouch, that type of rager, poor Red has it rough, plus remembering everything like Deimos does. Life not safe for any mutant anymore, whoa, that sounds worse than Gen 1. No shaking awaken when having nightmares, check. Good to know details about his roommate that allow Adam to help him.
Waking Nat like that when he is having a nightmare and thrashing about, his experiences with Razorback are paying dividends and then some. Tricks to help him control himself, Red needs Adam as his roommate.
Swimming class and a girl with frog-like hands and feet, always interesting to see new looks. Yikes, seeing that kind of thing due to his fear, that is true terror. Oh boy, adaptive shifting like that, can see why it is a pain. Stupid b**** threw him in the deep end! Oh boy, nightmare situation here, reflexively shifting to fight off his nightmare assailants.
Growing gills, no longer looking human and not able to shift back just yet, ouch. Shifting into a form like Diamondback's, even turning female, all just to swim, whoa. And the b**** who threw him into the deep end isn't even sorry, sadist. Shifted again, grabbed the girl by the neck and slammed her into the shallow end of the pool, never tick this kid off.
Whitman cottage, hope the girls hiding their appearance learn to love themselves for who they are. Feline girl looking out for fellow Whitman girls and suspicious of him, has to show her Outcast Corner pic to convince her. Dawn having to tell Telekat to be nice to Adam. Dawn and Adam are so cute together, I almost feel like I'm getting a cavity. And Dawn feeling good about herself because of Adam being a gentleman and calling her lovely, nice to see the other side of GSD kids like this in Gen 2.
Not taking life seriously enough, takes after his brother alright. T-shirts in the cold of September at Whateley, he would have been shocked to meet Kodiak or Murphy. Can't do normal animals and size limit at 3.5 tons for Adam's shifting, still sounds a lot like Jimmy T's power to me but on a lesser scale. Dawn is an exemplar with some magic, good at healing magic, always useful to have. Nice descriptions of the Outcast Corner members.
And Janine taught him a good thing, fighting like that just makes girls worry you are violent. And Counterpoint vs. Eldritch, would love to see him get his ass kicked, don't remember if it happened yet or not. And the table was left alone because of something done to it by the Outcasts. Living with her aunt and uncle for 2 years and just got to Whateley, that had to be rough.
White Snake and Bacon show up, Bacon figuring out why the table doesn't exist for most people at the school, runes cut in and done in sharpie as well. Ah, nice explaining Outcast Corner and the Outcast's Corner room. I like Bacon, only took the name because Razorback was already taken. Nice to see Adam has made his own group of unique friends so quickly.
Adam knows the rulebook, if they pull him in and the girl who threw him in the deep end isn't there, they are breaking the rules. Calling him Loophole mark two, these guys are mean. Standing up to Everhart over it, kid has a lot of guts. Oh boy, Miss Savitz is one of the Amazons, not good. Adaptive shapeshifting, useful and a pain to deal with in one neat package.
Saying he called her a dyke two nights ago in the tunnels, when he wasn't even there and wouldn't do that. Oh boy, these two kids get along with gasoline and fire. At least she has to pay for her actions and if she mouths off to the Hawthorne boys gets a day for each comment. Adam having to clean the public toilets for all the cottages and buildings for a week, good that he got off light.
Actually interested in Powers Theory, guessing they have a new teacher since Gen 1. Doctor Kaylan "WyldChyld" Weaver teaching Shifter Anatomy, talk about some skills to shift that fast from one form to the next. Very interesting class and new details on shifters, love learning new things like this. A High-Four Shifter, that is a powerful ability even having to follow the Mass-Squared law.
Another shifter from Australia, and Adam has gone up to 4 days in a form only to change back because his mom yelled at him, lol. Adam learned all that and never heard of a Variable Template Shifter before, guess we get to learn alongside him. Dang, Doctor Kaylan Weaver has another impressive power, touch anything organic and determine their physiology. Shifting treats his clothes as part of his body, interesting.
Unable to speak while he has gills, at least he knows sign language. Whoa, able to shift into a human-eagle hybrid and still retain his gills. Goes into a girl form to become fully human appearing again. A centaur form based on a Clydesdale, dang, plus fully viable again. Drop-Bear and what he told them about the creatures, he would fit in with Adam and his friends well with that sense of humor.
No wonder she is bi, when you can change your form that easily and are comfortable in any form you adapt fast. Everyone asking if he is a rager because of his favored form, understand why but it can get annoying after the first couple of times for him. At least Tolman is giving Adam a pass for class today, though it would be interesting to see him/her fighting in different forms.
Shifts back to normal and teased by White Snake about looking better as a girl. Deuce, Emerson prick, hates GSDs, and likely homophobic as well, oh boy. Hitting full force and claiming it was an accident, after the first 2 times I would warn him the next time he would be spending a few days in Doyle once she is through with him if I were Tolman.
Making money for more than minimum wage and around 2 hours a day, that would be hard to find even at Whateley. His sponsor is a woman and has a lunatic rugrat for a daughter, has me even more curious now.
Still no idea who this could be, feels like one of the Gen 1 characters but not sure who. Teenage focus group testing Adam can do at Whateley, wonder what it is for.And I'ma tell your mama you're already after a girl!"
That Holding Company, all those things they do for Mutant companies, plus TMI Medical. Just who is Sidewinder. Ooo, KoP destroyed by them for attacking a mutant with an illegal DFA and attacked him for jaywalking on their property, about time someone took them down. Whoa, all those lawsuits, couldn't happen to a 'nicer' group. But with Sidewinder's legal and business skills, starting to think someone connected or close to either Ayla or Lanie.
And their lawsuits were just the start, good. 3 years to bankrupt the KoP and Sidewinder got their arms, armor, schematics, and data to make up the debt unpaid. They were always too reckless, it was only a matter of time before this happen, glad it finally does.
Okay, someone close to Ayla, starting to sound like Sidewinder is Diamondback or Jade to me, though Sidewinder name goes with Diamondback better. Lawyers taking down the KoP, if only the MCO could have this happen to them as well.The CEO of the company had learned a few very, very important lessons from a friend about money, contracts, power, and how to wield them.
A photo of Adam and Dawn together, Sidewinder is sounding more and more like Diamondback to me with how she says she will show the picture to everyone, only a relative or someone who was adopted into the family would embarrass him like that. Angela says hello, guessing it is Sidewinder's daughter mentioned before, any of the class of 2010 and the kid can only be a few years old. 500 is a little something, whoa. List of places on campus to eat, depending on where he takes Dawn will be another clue as to who Sidewinder is.
Oh boy, definitely regular girls, asking questions about a boy their friend has and such rapid-fire. Mrs. Savage bringing Adam up, the other girls wishing they could see a boy's face directed at them with the expression he has now. Whoa, that was quick, going out for ice cream on a date just like that. And some of the other girls jealous of Dawn for having Adam right now. Hexplate teasing that if Dawn doesn't hurry up one of the other girls will pouch him, including her. Seeing a picture of Outcast Corner, Ekene's asking why Jericho is dressed that way and who let him.
Drawn to Dawn by her smile, wish more guys were like it, the world would be a better place. Cute and funny banter between them. Trays of ice cream prepared properly, wish I could find a place like that. Eating ice cream together like that and sharing it, so cute together, hope nothing happens to ruin it.
10 in the evening in Boston when a picture came through of Adam and Dawn together. Sidewinder's little girl ask the cutest thing.
Guessing 4 years old, 5 at the oldest for the little cutie. And a nice end to a very fun story, new interesting details about Razorback's little brother, his own group of new friends, as well as potential foes, and even information on shifters."Mama? Does Adam have a girlfriend?"
Hope we get to see more Adam and his friends in the future, plus find out who Sidewinder is. I don't know why but I'm guessing Diamondback for some reason. Just the vibe I got from all the details given about Sidewinder in the story. Though he calls her Aunt Sandra and Sidewinder something else, so that ruins it. Though the teasing about telling his mama he is already after a girl makes it seem like someone closely connected to the family, so it could be Diamondback, plus he never called her by name in the scenes where he talks to Sidewinder over the phone. All the clues could also point to Jade, if she somehow fixed her stuck BIT and is physically grown up now thus could have a daughter that young.
Thank You for story comments appreciated and help me know me they are being read and liked.

- Kettlekorn
-
Nobody ever specified that she's a biodaughter. Could be adopted or a clone. And Jade is the girl who pretended to be her own dead sister so that she could double-enroll. I can totally see her pretending to be her own daughter, whether to fuck with people or just because she's that desperate.Dreamer wrote: All the clues could also point to Jade, if she somehow fixed her stuck BIT and is physically grown up now thus could have a daughter that young.
I don't think this is Jade, though. Lots of other people she could be. My guess? Roulette.
- Esar
-
The swimmingpool scene was really interesting and him getting romantically involved in his first story was nice too. They make a nice couple and you had a lot of awesome exchanges in this one.
(and I know putting label on people like that can be at the very least awkward but he seems rather genderfluid and bisexual from some of his comment ?)
Thanks JG.
- Katssun
-
JG's past tense usage is making me nervous. Sandra and Monica given past tense, while Janine, Jericho, Cait (obviously since she's instructing again), and Razor are all referred to in the present tense. I hope it is just JG messing with us.Arcanist Lupus wrote: Also, JG's use of tenses is making me confused and a bit nervous.
"Should" implies that Sandra still sings. "Was able" implies that she no longer can. Maybe she's just busy? *hopes really hard*You should hear my Aunt Sandra belt out the songs, she was amazing when she was able to do it.
Dawn and Adam together are really adorable.
Toison... *looks it up* means fleece. Does that make Dawn the Golden Fleece? It's a good thing the Olympians are gone.
Dawn has showed up before in Tanya's POV story before. Their little budding romance is so cute! I loved the line from one of the others that they 'so hate her right now.'
- annachie
-
- Arcanist Lupus
-
I'd say pansexual (or at least panromantic) rather than bisexual, but admittedly the line is rather blurry.Esar wrote: (and I know putting label on people like that can be at the very least awkward but he seems rather genderfluid and bisexual from some of his comment ?)
As for gender, I'd say that a genderfluid shifter is going to shift their body to match their current gender identity, whereas Adam's gender identity shifts to match his current body. (Which is really a much better metaphor for fluid behavior than genderfluid is, but whatever). Really though, I'd say that Adam's gender identity is 'irrelevant'. He doesn't care about the genders of those he interacts with, and he doesn't care about his own gender either.
He clearly put 'male' down on his form, otherwise he'd be in Poe or Melville. On the other hand, as a mutant who can pass for normal but doesn't blink twice at even the worst GSD, the school really benefits from having him in Twain (or Whitman were he a she), so I could see them passing over a bit of gender swapping to make that happen.
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
- Mister D
-
Arcanist Lupus wrote:
I'd say pansexual (or at least panromantic) rather than bisexual, but admittedly the line is rather blurry.Esar wrote: (and I know putting label on people like that can be at the very least awkward but he seems rather genderfluid and bisexual from some of his comment ?)
As for gender, I'd say that a genderfluid shifter is going to shift their body to match their current gender identity, whereas Adam's gender identity shifts to match his current body. (Which is really a much better metaphor for fluid behavior than genderfluid is, but whatever). Really though, I'd say that Adam's gender identity is 'irrelevant'. He doesn't care about the genders of those he interacts with, and he doesn't care about his own gender either.
He clearly put 'male' down on his form, otherwise he'd be in Poe or Melville. On the other hand, as a mutant who can pass for normal but doesn't blink twice at even the worst GSD, the school really benefits from having him in Twain (or Whitman were he a she), so I could see them passing over a bit of gender swapping to make that happen.
Ha! Someone else posted on this before i did.
What about the relationship with other species?
If he takes the form of another animal, and lives as that animal for a while, "just for the understanding and the experience", then he'd start to look at animals of the same species as being potential partners. Think Constable Odo from DS9.
An interesting theme to explore, would be Adam meeting with some of the local Weres. They be interested in meeting him anyway, as he's kin to one of their pack-mates. (Sort of...)
They would have a different perspective that Adam would learn from. They are also some of the few sapient's that would understand the experiences of having different sense organs. Might be some auxiliary TA's for the shifter classes. Also, some of them are the grounds staff, so he'd meet them at some point.
Also, would Razor have told him to "Say Hi from me if you meet so-and-so..."?
Measure Twice
- Arcanist Lupus
-
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
- Jarjaross
-
My dreams take me to far off lands and times of distant past and future. They tell what has been done, what will happen and who I am. They show me things beyond the machinations of any man. Tell me, what are dreams to you?
- null0trooper
-
Mister D wrote: An interesting theme to explore, would be Adam meeting with some of the local Weres. They be interested in meeting him anyway, as he's kin to one of their pack-mates. (Sort of...)
Good point. That even adds a few candidates to the betting pool for Adam's sponsor.
Forum-posted ideas are freely adoptable.
WhatIF Stories: Buy the Book
Discussion Thread
- Malady
-
- Yolandria
-
Topic Author
Which one...hard to say.
Unfortunately, she had been on her way out to go help someone “Remember why Whateley neutrality was important.” Given the look in her eye, he didn’t really want to know, but it had involved two of her sisters teaching the lesson with her.
Mentions the 3 girls going out to take care of business. My guess is Sponser + Cait + Noms.
Mistress of the shelter for lost and redeemable Woobies!
- lighttech
-
The KoP being disbanded!
That might mean that the Goodkinds minus Ayla might be in financial trouble?
Maybe the crash of 2008 hit them hard and Ayla made out like a bandit and scooped up stock at bargain rates!
Part of the WA Drow clan/ collective
Author of Vantier and Shadowsblade on Bigcloset
- Valentine
-
Malady wrote: WMG: Sidewinder Founder is Tansy.
Tansy wouldn't have needed the "tutoring" on the power of finances and lawyers.
I wonder how "deep" his changes go. If I understood the shifting class bit, his body will automatically create the necessary biological adaptions for his new form. So as a centaur, he creates a new second heart and lungs, and whatever else is needed to stay alive. When he became female, he was fully functional as a girl, including the possibility of getting pregnant. But does his DNA change? When he became female, did his DNA swap over to XX from XY? When he becomes those hybrid forms, is his DNA still human?
As for his gender, I would say he is pangender or something along those lines. He just doesn't really pay attention to what it is, because it doesn't matter what it is to him, the same with his sexuality and sex. He just doesn't seem to care. He isn't asexual, agender, or neuter, those things (sexuality, gender, and sex) do have meaning to him.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- NeoMagus
-
Arcanist Lupus wrote: Dawn and Adam together are really adorable.
Toison... *looks it up* means fleece. Does that make Dawn the Golden Fleece? It's a good thing the Olympians are gone.
I'll admit, the mythical Golden Fleece was a strong influence on my initial development process for Dawn. She went through several phases of development before I settled on who/what she is now though, and really the only significant elements that carried over are her codename, her blond hair, and her affinity for healing magic. She's certainly not THE Golden Fleece, though yes, I'd imagine it would take quite a bit of work to convince the Olympians of that fact.

And I'm glad everyone seems to really like the interaction between Dawn and Adam. It's certainly been a treat for me, getting to work with JG to see how that relationship would play out in this story and in stories to come.
... . . -.- / .--- ..- ... - .. -.-. . .-.-.- / .-.. --- ...- . / -- . .-. -.-. -.-- .-.-.- / .-- .- .-.. -.- / .... ..- -- -... .-.. -.-- / .-- .. - .... / -.-- --- ..- .-. / --. --- -.. .-.-.-
- jmhyp
-
Further stories may make it more clear whether Adam takes on female gender when female.
- Yolandria
-
Topic Author
Adam laughed. It was too easy to kind of fall into it, and “Drop-Bear” was funny, and handsome in his own right. She found herself wondering what it would have been like to have enrolled as a girl.
Mistress of the shelter for lost and redeemable Woobies!
- Bek D Corbin
-
He sexually identifies as a skillet?
- E. E. Nalley
-
Bek D Corbin wrote: 'Pangender'?
He sexually identifies as a skillet?
Lauren Southern of Rebel Media identifies as an Attack Helicopter, so...

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
Thomas Jefferson, to Archibald Stuart, 1791
- Valentine
-
Bek D Corbin wrote: 'Pangender'?
He sexually identifies as a skillet?
He sizzles.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- Yolandria
-
Topic Author
He sizzles.
That's Bacon + pan. = Yummies...

Mistress of the shelter for lost and redeemable Woobies!
- JG
-
I'll leave Adam's proclivities to be spoken by his actions.
- Sir Lee
-
- Kettlekorn
-
I bet a lot of kids at Whateley identify with Skillet.Bek D Corbin wrote: 'Pangender'?
He sexually identifies as a skillet?
- Arcanist Lupus
-
Sir Lee wrote: Well, he's rather close to being an actual "Pan"-sexual, as in the Greek god Pan . Only instead of having the hots for a goat-legged guy, he has the hots for the sheep-legged girl.
Which brings up a rather interesting question - when all you have are the legs, how do you tell the difference between sheep legs and goat legs?
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
- Sir Lee
-
Well, she has horns. I assume that an expert could tell if they resemble sheep horns more than goat horns.
- JG
-
- Valentine
-
Don't Drick and Drive.
- JG
-
- mhalpern
-
JG wrote: That... would be telling. But he would have been in diapers still when Erin Carlyle went missing. Jack spent quite a lot of time feral in the outback near Darwin.
So its possible if he got a mental package and his long term memory was starting to develop before Erin went missing
Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
- Arcanist Lupus
-
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
- null0trooper
-
Forum-posted ideas are freely adoptable.
WhatIF Stories: Buy the Book
Discussion Thread
- mhalpern
-
I am referring to improved recal retroactively, which is something that is established in mutant mental packages, humans technically dont forget anything once our long term memory forms, amnesia asside we just loose the ability to recal it, if someone's recall gets a boost, then they should be able to recal things that they previously couldn'tArcanist Lupus wrote: Manifestation doesn't happen until puberty. Babyhood would be very early indeed for any mental traits to manifest.
Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
- joreymay
-
mhalpern wrote:
I am referring to improved recal retroactively, which is something that is established in mutant mental packages, humans technically dont forget anything once our long term memory forms, amnesia asside we just loose the ability to recal it, if someone's recall gets a boost, then they should be able to recal things that they previously couldn'tArcanist Lupus wrote: Manifestation doesn't happen until puberty. Babyhood would be very early indeed for any mental traits to manifest.
True "long term memory" is dependent on a number of brain functions, particularly those of the hippocampus and the frontoparietal regions, which take some years to develop. Given the hinted-at timeline, chances are that Adam has no distinctive long term memories of Erin per se, but might have a fragmentary memory that Jack somehow looked different at some point.
- JG
-
He knows Jack. He grew up with a Brothersaurus Rex and thats shaped his view of his brother more than anything else.
- Katssun
-
- JG
-
Just imagine Halloween and the raptor-riding midget knight.
- Ametros
-
I definitely love teenage Adam as a character. Very cool guy, and his budding romance with Dawn is adorable. It was an enjoying read, but I'm not entirely sure somebody else didn't write the majority of it in JG's name. Aside from a few scenes with the language and the drowning, it's entirely too pleasant!

I'm looking forward to seeing a whole lot of saurian jokes and Dinotopia references in future, possibly. "Breathe deep, seek peace" in particular seems rather appropriate.
Excellent work, and I'll be impatiently awaiting more.
Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.
- Iwasforger03
-
I really do think Sidewinder holdings could be Diamondback, but my worry is the line at the end. Would Diamondback have a lap for her daughter to sit on?
I am a Sexy Shoeless God of War - So suck it CP!
Dice/Hollow#1
Dice/HollowDiscuss
- Ametros
-

Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.
- Kettlekorn
-
If she can bend that way, sure. A lap is a lap, whether it's made out of upper leg or the base of a tail. It's just a question of whether she can still bend in such a way as to present that part of her tail as a sittable surface. If not, she could still sit in a coiled position and call whatever part of her tail ends up in front a lap.Iwasforger03 wrote: I really do think Sidewinder holdings could be Diamondback, but my worry is the line at the end. Would Diamondback have a lap for her daughter to sit on?
- Iwasforger03
-
I am a Sexy Shoeless God of War - So suck it CP!
Dice/Hollow#1
Dice/HollowDiscuss
- Yolandria
-
Topic Author
Mistress of the shelter for lost and redeemable Woobies!
- Iwasforger03
-
Still... other than my favorite Jadis... who would you lay bets on for the Identity of a possible Mrs. Turner, wife of one Joe Turner? A Mrs. Turner was mentioned in Rises the Sun in almost the same breath as Sidewinder Holdings, but we have no guarantee it's his wife, that just seems the simplest explanation. So it's still only theoretical that the mentioned Mrs. Turner has anything to do with Sidewinder or Jericho. I think.
Jadis seems unlikely, much as it breaks my heart. Which leaves... I'm not really sure.
I am a Sexy Shoeless God of War - So suck it CP!
Dice/Hollow#1
Dice/HollowDiscuss
- Iwasforger03
-
I am a Sexy Shoeless God of War - So suck it CP!
Dice/Hollow#1
Dice/HollowDiscuss
- Valentine
-
Remember though, Razorback's is legally on his MID, and he neither disputes it nor wants it removed. He knows how dangerous he is and what a threat he is. Also he knows that it is unlikely that anyone would stop him.
But since both of them are Ragers,I doubt it was them or Noms or Dimes. Likely a friend did it, and it was intentional.
Don't Drick and Drive.
- Arcanist Lupus
-
"Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
- Sir Lee
-
OK, she might have to turn off the glamour in order to not be accused of manipulating the jury. And the judge. And the lawyers, including the ones on the MCO side... but she CAN'T turn off her hotness. I mean, even if she attempts to play it down, the best she can do would be... well... "sexy librarian."
- Valentine
-
Eldritch, Razorback, Tennyo, Fey, Carmilla, Imperious, Counterpoint, Stormwolf, and about a dozen other kids were tagged with the Deadly Force classification.
Carmilla, assuming she's rescued, would probably be a bad choice.
Imperious and Counterpoint wouldn't work, their attitudes are too off.
Stormwolf would probably be bad for it too.
Tennyo might work, as shy as she is. The nigh indestructibility helps too.
But the question is, when the MCO office was raided did that get their MID's changed?
Don't Drick and Drive.
- elrodw
-
Never give up, Never surrender! Captain Peter Quincy Taggert
- Iwasforger03
-
Which would work heavily in Sidewinder's favor when they used this, because if the mutant in question was (almost certainly) tagged with a DFA illegally that's just all the more massive grounds for ripping the KoP a new one.
I am a Sexy Shoeless God of War - So suck it CP!
Dice/Hollow#1
Dice/HollowDiscuss
- konzill
-
- null0trooper
-
konzill wrote: My money is on Sidewinder being Jade's company. It would be rather disingenuous of GJ to have Adam refer to one of his Aunts only as his sponsor, rather than his aunt. The other factor is that his sponsor has more than two sisters, which fits the J Team rather well.
Though they weren't thinking of Baby Hijacker at the time, after events in " Blood-Sister, Blood-Brother ", Janice, Sandra, Monica, Caitlin, and Miranda are all sisters, as they and Adam would see it.
Forum-posted ideas are freely adoptable.
WhatIF Stories: Buy the Book
Discussion Thread
- konzill
-
Trying to live up to his brother's reputation seems to be the biggest Chip on Adam's shoulder. I fully expect Dawne to be giving him a stop picking fights you idiots speech at some point in future stories.
Also, he is yet another character who is now on the Amazon's shit list, further cementing the fact that they are current big bad among the students. Honestly, evil lesbians was not a place I was expecting the Whateley authors to go.
- mhalpern
-
Any Bad Ideas I have and microscene OC character stories are freely adoptable.
- konzill
-
Adam also says that his Aunt Noms used to have six arms, which seems to suggest that she does not have six arms anymore. Could it be that whatever spirit is using Noms has achieved its objective and moved on? Thereby allowing her to rever to a more normal appearance, though presumably still female.
- Anne
-
I wouldn't call Adam neuter, because he is very interested in girls in particular. But he is not particular whether or not he is wearing the male gender at the time, and he seems to be hetrosexual in his orientation, no matter what gender he wears, so if he is a girl for very long he starts looking at boys... Pansexual fits more than neuter, which would have no interest in sex which he definitely doesn't fit, because he is interested in sex, no matter what gender he wears.Valentine wrote:
Malady wrote: WMG: Sidewinder Founder is Tansy.
Tansy wouldn't have needed the "tutoring" on the power of finances and lawyers.
I wonder how "deep" his changes go. If I understood the shifting class bit, his body will automatically create the necessary biological adaptions for his new form. So as a centaur, he creates a new second heart and lungs, and whatever else is needed to stay alive. When he became female, he was fully functional as a girl, including the possibility of getting pregnant. But does his DNA change? When he became female, did his DNA swap over to XX from XY? When he becomes those hybrid forms, is his DNA still human?
As for his gender, I would say he is pangender or something along those lines. He just doesn't really pay attention to what it is, because it doesn't matter what it is to him, the same with his sexuality and sex. He just doesn't seem to care. He isn't asexual, agender, or neuter, those things (sexuality, gender, and sex) do have meaning to him.
Adopt my story: here
Nowhereville discussion
- Anne
-
Adopt my story: here
Nowhereville discussion
- JG
-
- Anne
-
Adopt my story: here
Nowhereville discussion
- Astrodragon
-
I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.