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Question A Dragon Abroad

7 years 11 months ago #1 by Astrodragon
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    • For comments on DragonsFyres latest mishaps.
    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
    7 years 11 months ago #2 by elrodw
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    • Just remember that Astrodragon is from the UK, so when you give him feedback, make sure you include a generous helping of spurious "u" characters in words. Just sprinkle them in at random, and he should be okay :lol:

    And enjoy. We're happy that gen 2 stories are rolling.
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    7 years 11 months ago #3 by Yolandria
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    • I'm glad to finally so more from our fire girl. She turns a lovely shade of colour. :lol: But i have to wondeur when the Amazons are going to get their cumupense. I feel a challenge cuming soon.
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    7 years 11 months ago #4 by mhalpern
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    • Yolandria wrote: I'm glad to finally so more from our fire girl. She turns a lovely shade of colour. :lol: But i have to wondeur when the Amazons are going to get their cumupense. I feel a challenge cuming soon.



    I am not going to point out where if you added an extra "m" the meaning of an entire sentence would change entirely. Nope definitely not going to do that.


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    7 years 11 months ago #5 by Dreamer
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    • SPOILER ALERT
    Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.


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    7 years 11 months ago #6 by Arcanist Lupus
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    • Apparently StahlFaust doesn't see the irony in refusing to see Morgana as a girl and calling her q bitch in the same breath. I can't say I'm surprised.

    Great story so far!

    I can't help but feel that it would be funny for StahlFaust to meet Ayla. "You're not a girl! " "No I'm not, thank you for understanding" :D

    Also, PTSD and insanely overpowered fireballs are not a good combination. Depending on how Whateley's policy has evolved I could see her getting a UV band. She showed enough control to avoid seriously harming her opponent - otherwise we might be looking at our second Section 33
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    7 years 11 months ago #7 by Jarjaross
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    • Not done reading it yet, just thought I'd chime in on a minor point. Not even a mistake just different way to take the situation.

    I thought when she immolated the equipment she was passing out do to lack of air from buring off all of the oxygen. The overexertion thing make sense too, I just thought it would be a good thing to consider when there are people manifesting fire in enclosed spaces.
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    7 years 11 months ago #8 by Katssun
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    • Let me guess, Morgana trains up enough to control her magic in dragonform...when her hair starts glowing when she's in it. I'm also guessing what the doctor and Grimes where suggesting shows in her weird scans is the body structures where her horns, and yet to be seen wings, come from. B)

    Teasing Tanya...all the girls should do it! Well, maybe not Bianca...

    Really waiting to see Stahlfaust lose her shit when she realizes that the only girl allowed to be called Eisenmadel in decades is good friends with the particular group of changeling girls she hates so much, and also trained to fight by the original. Might get her to lay off Morgana for a while, and maybe give her a well deserved humbling?

    Morgana being totally relaxed about being naked is so funny. Such prudes those testers are! :silly: Should we expect her to be even more comfortable with it when her back is finally healed? Will Bianca turn oh so many shades of pink? Will she actually get Erica to blush? Will Mrs. Horton have to remind her to wear a bathrobe?

    Those wiz girls in the store, is Morgana also going to have a few enemies in the magic courses, like Bianca?
    7 years 11 months ago #9 by Hardric
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    • Katssun wrote: Really waiting to see Stahlfaust lose her shit when she realizes that the only girl allowed to be called Eisenmadel in decades is good friends with the particular group of changeling girls she hates so much, and also trained to fight by the original. Might get her to lay off Morgana for a while, and maybe give her a well deserved humbling?


    That would be fun indeed. But that would be even better if she learned that Erica is a changeling too. If the girls are lucky, she could just have a stroke from the sheer shock. I can't wait to see this band getting force-fed the humble pie, they seem to be even dumber than the Wicked Bitch of the Great North an Don Buffoono, and more mad that Sinfest's Sorority. shudders Also happy to see that they're not in the position to pull this off in total impunity.

    The story was also an interesting read, well connected to the other ones, and you (the G2 cabal) must show us G2!Fubar. Heck the story of how he managed to go to a point wheere he can leave Hawthorne would be interesting. And more about... Well, just more Whateley, please.

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    7 years 11 months ago #10 by Katssun
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    • elrodw wrote: Just remember that Astrodragon is from the UK, so when you give him feedback, make sure you include a generous helping of spurious "u" characters in words. Just sprinkle them in at random, and he should be okay :lol:

    What throws me off more is the lack of 'z' in words that should have them.

    Oh, goodness, I'm sorry! I mean the use of 's' where there should be a zed.
    :P
    7 years 11 months ago #11 by Astrodragon
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    • elrodw wrote: Just remember that Astrodragon is from the UK, so when you give him feedback, make sure you include a generous helping of spurious "u" characters in words. Just sprinkle them in at random, and he should be okay :lol:

    And enjoy. We're happy that gen 2 stories are rolling.


    You have to remember, Elrod is in Texas, where they shoot everything.

    So, sadly, the vast herds of u's that used to range happy and free are no longer with us. Instead texans can only see them in zoos or the occasional wildlife reservation. He's just not used to seeing them around.
    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
    7 years 11 months ago #12 by Astrodragon
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    • Katssun wrote: Let me guess, Morgana trains up enough to control her magic in dragonform...when her hair starts glowing when she's in it. I'm also guessing what the doctor and Grimes where suggesting shows in her weird scans is the body structures where her horns, and yet to be seen wings, come from. B)

    Teasing Tanya...all the girls should do it! Well, maybe not Bianca...

    Really waiting to see Stahlfaust lose her shit when she realizes that the only girl allowed to be called Eisenmadel in decades is good friends with the particular group of changeling girls she hates so much, and also trained to fight by the original. Might get her to lay off Morgana for a while, and maybe give her a well deserved humbling?

    Morgana being totally relaxed about being naked is so funny. Such prudes those testers are! :silly: Should we expect her to be even more comfortable with it when her back is finally healed? Will Bianca turn oh so many shades of pink? Will she actually get Erica to blush? Will Mrs. Horton have to remind her to wear a bathrobe?

    Those wiz girls in the store, is Morgana also going to have a few enemies in the magic courses, like Bianca?


    Morgana spent a considerable time in a cell, naked, and being tortured. Basically being naked was the least of her problems, and so she now doesn't think of it as that important.
    She's not going to start being a nudist, but if something happens, she isn't going to get terribly worried. More likely "damn, I liked that t-shirt..."

    As to enemies in the magic class..wait till Part 2...:)
    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
    7 years 11 months ago #13 by Astrodragon
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    • Jarjaross wrote: Not done reading it yet, just thought I'd chime in on a minor point. Not even a mistake just different way to take the situation.

    I thought when she immolated the equipment she was passing out do to lack of air from buring off all of the oxygen. The overexertion thing make sense too, I just thought it would be a good thing to consider when there are people manifesting fire in enclosed spaces.


    Lack of oxygen only puts out fires when there is no ventilation.
    But Morgana's fire isn't just normal fire - she can, for example, burn underwater, although that limits her somewhat.
    In theory it could also burn to some extent in vacuum, but since Morgana can't breathe vacuum, its rather a moot point.
    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
    7 years 11 months ago #14 by Esar
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    • A big chunk of this first part was about the testings but I don't think it was a bad thing. Dragonfyre has particularities that are worth exploring and which make the testing more original than it is for a lot of characters.

    The "rivalry" (hate) between the Amazons (or at least part of them) and the changeling is interesting. In a way I hope it won't be settled too fast.

    Thanks Astrodragon.
    7 years 11 months ago #15 by Astrodragon
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    • Partly this was to show power testing in some detail, once. So we didnt need to go through it each time.
    Since Morgana has the most messy and complicated power issues, it made sense to do it for her, and there is quite a lot of stuff in there that will come out later on in her story..

    And no, you havn't seen the last of the Amazons by any means...:)
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    • I see the Amazons really pissing in everyone's cereal bowel. Going to be interesting when the OC crew get involved in this mess.
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    7 years 11 months ago - 7 years 11 months ago #17 by Katssun
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    • Dreamer already brought it up, but the hair dryer bit brought a huge smile to my face.

    Somebody's jealous of her cottagemates~

    If Laura can get that working, more successfully than other devisor hairdryers mentioned in Gen 1, maybe she should reconsider her specialty from weapons to appliances that look like weapons...for aesthetic purposes of course.

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    When will Morgana's first rugby hooligan incident occur?
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    7 years 11 months ago #18 by Kaitha39
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    • Katssun wrote:

    elrodw wrote: Just remember that Astrodragon is from the UK, so when you give him feedback, make sure you include a generous helping of spurious "u" characters in words. Just sprinkle them in at random, and he should be okay :lol:

    What throws me off more is the lack of 'z' in words that should have them.

    Oh, goodness, I'm sorry! I mean the use of 's' where there should be a zed.
    :P

    In regards to both the "u"'s and the "s/z" thing:
    We invented the language, so our way is obviously the correct way !!! ^_^


    (Please don't mention that we added the "u"'s in the 17th century, approximately four hundred years after we made the transition from Proto-English to near-modern-English. This was a joke, not a request for a lingual argument. And yes it is annoying when internet spell checkers tell me I should have a "z" where I SHOULD have a "s".)
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    • Maybe...but "energiser" just looks wrong. Energizers zap things with their powers.
    7 years 11 months ago - 7 years 11 months ago #20 by DireApostasy
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    • Katssun wrote: Maybe...but "energiser" just looks wrong. Energizers zap things with their powers.

    Perhaps, but Energisers can release great surges of energy with theirs. :dry:

    That aside, while I really enjoyed reading more from Morgana's point of view (she is probably my favourite Gen 2 character) it always kinda bugs me that whenever the 'good guy' characters are caught up in something like what Stahlfaust pulled, security/authority figures just happen to be incompetent enough to decide that everyone was at fault and needs punishment regardless of what blatantly happened.
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    7 years 11 months ago #21 by Astrodragon
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    • DireApostasy wrote:

    Katssun wrote: Maybe...but "energiser" just looks wrong. Energizers zap things with their powers.

    Perhaps, but Energisers can release great surges of energy with theirs. :dry:

    That aside, while I really enjoyed reading more from Morgana's point of view (she is probably my favourite Gen 2 character) it always kinda bugs me that whenever the 'good guy' characters are caught up in something like what Stahlfaust pulled, security/authority figures just happen to be incompetent enough to decide that everyone was at fault and needs punishment regardless of what blatantly happened.


    Well, as to what happens after the incident, you'll have to wait and read Part 2.
    It might not be quite what you think it is.

    But yeah, its school. Lillian Dennon knows pretty much what went on, but there is no proof, so its word against word.
    You expect High School to be FAIR!!!??
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    • Astrodragon wrote: You expect High School to be FAIR!!!??


    Of course I do!

    It may only be fair in direct proportion to the parents' bank accounts and the skill of the attorneys on retainer, but it wouldn't be the only institution for which that is true.
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    • Yolandria wrote: I see the Amazons really pissing in everyone's cereal bowel. Going to be interesting when the OC crew get involved in this mess.


    OC crew?
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    • Somehow the hairdrier is going to become a running gag, I mean in actual utility, if someone 'disarms' her with intent on using the thing it will effectively remove a threat until they pull the trigger, which can be a deciding factor in a hostile situation.
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    • DireApostasy wrote: That aside, while I really enjoyed reading more from Morgana's point of view (she is probably my favourite Gen 2 character) it always kinda bugs me that whenever the 'good guy' characters are caught up in something like what Stahlfaust pulled, security/authority figures just happen to be incompetent enough to decide that everyone was at fault and needs punishment regardless of what blatantly happened.


    They are teaching the students an important lesson, something that can save their lives in the real world.

    No matter the circumstances, no matter the rights and wrongs of it, it is always better never to come to the notice of law enforcement when you are a mutant.
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    • OC crew?

    Adam and his new buddies? I'm sure it's going to spill over onto them especially after what he did to the one Amazon in the pool.
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    • A Dragon, A Broad...
    ...And probably an additional Broadaxe for making that alteration.

    It strikes me that intelligence simply doesn't keep pace with bullies and their increase in ability to cause harm. What are thinking about roughing up somebody that could immolate them without much effort, and then leave them alive to nurse a grudge. We know Morgana's better than that, but these Amazons are idiots, with perhaps one exception thus far. The whole thing left me seething, regardless.

    Astrodragon wrote: As to enemies in the magic class..wait till Part 2...:)


    Please don't make us wait too long. I'd like to see those currently-anonymous GSD haters get one-upped. :-p
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    • Ametros wrote: A Dragon, A Broad...
    ...And probably an additional Broadaxe for making that alteration.


    After reading

    "Looks like she's in the mindless fighters class, as well. A real mage doesn't need to know how to hit people."


    Why NOT a broadaxe?

    Nothing quite says "DIE!!!" like a well-swung enchanted battleaxe on fire :twisted:
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    • null0trooper wrote:

    Ametros wrote: A Dragon, A Broad...
    ...And probably an additional Broadaxe for making that alteration.


    After reading

    "Looks like she's in the mindless fighters class, as well. A real mage doesn't need to know how to hit people."


    Why NOT a broadaxe?

    Nothing quite says "DIE!!!" like a well-swung enchanted battleaxe on fire

    This was my first thought as well. Have her roommate etch a sigil on a big old hickory axe handle that reads "Won't burn...generally," and can be charged with fire plane essence without exploding.
    7 years 11 months ago #31 by Astrodragon
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    • Ametros wrote: A Dragon, A Broad...
    ...And probably an additional Broadaxe for making that alteration.

    It strikes me that intelligence simply doesn't keep pace with bullies and their increase in ability to cause harm. What are thinking about roughing up somebody that could immolate them without much effort, and then leave them alive to nurse a grudge. We know Morgana's better than that, but these Amazons are idiots, with perhaps one exception thus far. The whole thing left me seething, regardless.

    Astrodragon wrote: As to enemies in the magic class..wait till Part 2...:)


    Please don't make us wait too long. I'd like to see those currently-anonymous GSD haters get one-upped. :-p


    Yeah, we already did the title joke...:P

    As to the fire - remember, they don't know about it.
    Morgana's power testing isn't common knowledge, and what she told her friends isn't tactically useful, even if they talked about it.
    It's not even appreciated how much tougher she is in Dragonform - its quite likely its just assumed its a limited change which makes her somewhat tougher, rather than 'this is my energiser supergirl form'.
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    • null0trooper wrote:

    Ametros wrote: A Dragon, A Broad...
    ...And probably an additional Broadaxe for making that alteration.


    After reading

    "Looks like she's in the mindless fighters class, as well. A real mage doesn't need to know how to hit people."


    Why NOT a broadaxe?

    Nothing quite says "DIE!!!" like a well-swung enchanted battleaxe on fire :twisted:


    My thoughts were "and you know how useless you will be when you are out of essence" or an enemy forces you into CQC?"

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    • Not gonna repeat people, so yeah...

    So, her magic sight, is, or isn't monochrome? The phrasing is confusing...

    Hawthorn, or Hawthorne??

    Expecting counter-group to the Amazons, representing feminism positively? Are there other GranolaGirls on campus? Macrobiotic would be nice...

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    • mhalpern wrote:

    null0trooper wrote:

    Ametros wrote: A Dragon, A Broad...
    ...And probably an additional Broadaxe for making that alteration.


    After reading

    "Looks like she's in the mindless fighters class, as well. A real mage doesn't need to know how to hit people."


    Why NOT a broadaxe?

    Nothing quite says "DIE!!!" like a well-swung enchanted battleaxe on fire :twisted:


    My thoughts were "and you know how useless you will be when you are out of essence" or an enemy forces you into CQC?"

    The Sims will be fun with them


    After-action debrief: "But mages are supposed to be squishy when you get them up close..."

    - Cue rant from Gunny Bardue... :D
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    7 years 11 months ago #35 by Astrodragon
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    • Morgana's sight is in monochrome, she sees it as a sort of blue/violet colour.
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    • Mister D wrote:

    mhalpern wrote:

    null0trooper wrote:

    Ametros wrote: A Dragon, A Broad...
    ...And probably an additional Broadaxe for making that alteration.


    After reading

    "Looks like she's in the mindless fighters class, as well. A real mage doesn't need to know how to hit people."


    Why NOT a broadaxe?

    Nothing quite says "DIE!!!" like a well-swung enchanted battleaxe on fire :twisted:


    My thoughts were "and you know how useless you will be when you are out of essence" or an enemy forces you into CQC?"

    The Sims will be fun with them


    After-action debrief: "But mages are supposed to be squishy when you get them up close..."

    - Cue rant from Gunny Bardue... :D

    There is a very good reason why special infantry the world over is trained with knives and at least limited martial arts, even with guns, shit happens and you have to handle an enemy that's too close for comfort. In terms that they would understand, in an MMO RPG with the classic combat triangle, there is only one class players who don't always party play can use reliably, melee, because the other 2 classes are squishy.
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    • There's this story about the DI teaching bayonet fighting to the new recruits... he explains that if the bayonet gets stuck in a bone, you can fire the rifle and the recoil will unstuck it. To which a recruit observes, "Sergeant, if I still have a bullet in my rifle, there's not going to be bayonet combat."

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    • Ametros wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: As to enemies in the magic class..wait till Part 2...:)


    Please don't make us wait too long. I'd like to see those currently-anonymous GSD haters get one-upped. :-p


    Anonymous? Not so much. Hermione's name is Estelle, while her partner in bitchcraft is Antonitte and her codename is La Mage Blanche, they were first seen in The Writing On the Wall part 2.
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    • Sir Lee wrote: There's this story about the DI teaching bayonet fighting to the new recruits... he explains that if the bayonet gets stuck in a bone, you can fire the rifle and the recoil will unstuck it. To which a recruit observes, "Sergeant, if I still have a bullet in my rifle, there's not going to be bayonet combat."

    Regarding the seemingly endless stupidity of bullies... there's this quote attributed to Einstein (I don't know if the attribution is correct, this IS the Internet, after all):
    "Every day, man is making bigger and better fool-proof things, and every day, nature is making bigger and better fools. So far, I think nature is winning."


    That's why I didn't say bayonet, if you loose hold of the gun, in close quarters, then you use the knife or your built in weapons (hands, feet and so forth).
    Bullies think themselves better than their victims, even if they know nothing of their victim's strength, they HAVE to be better than them, because they are pushing themselves above them, this makes them extremely prone to underestimating their opponents, as well as general complacency, of course after realizing their complacency, they cannot fix it, without conceding.
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    • And a new story about our delicate,sensitive little dragoness is up.
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    • Wee! More-gana!

    So, lots of little interesting tidbits throughout.

    Morgana being a definite target of horny boys, not unlike the Dickinson girls. I wonder how that's going to go, when Morgana and Vixen also have something starting to build from the Poe Mixer. Vixen was sent off due to Morgana being underage, but it has the same feel of Ros/Deb and Kayda. Has Morgana drawn Vixen's interest in a way that doesn't quite meet up with Vixen's usual MO?

    I loved the way Morgana's detention played out. Dennon and Bellows and Caitlin all working together to see if Morgana's initial troubles at Whateley were her being a rager, or simply circumstances and her PTSD. I also appreciated that Morgana had figured it out by the end of the week, that they were trying to trick her into raging out so they could stuff her in Hawthorne or give her a UV band. Really loving the way Mama-Caitlin tends to her students, and how Dennon continues to mix force and subtlety in everything she does, fitting for the Exemplar Grace instructor.

    And if Dennon is intrigued that she's finally got her hands on a CQC Brick-Mage? Hopefully someone in the anime club (through Tia or Taka) shows Morgana a few episodes of Nanoha StrikerS or ViVid so she gets a few ideas! ;)

    So...Morgana's Month with No Clothes and Thulia's usual method of practicing magic has made a permanent impression on Morgana. The less clothes, the better. Guess she's fit right in with the advanced magic lab students!

    Not sure what to make of Nephandus or Morgana's ultra-sensitive colorblind mage sight yet. It seems like Nephandus and his employer would be more interested in Thulia's supercomputer than the product of that experiment. Morgana is at the end of that case, but where she begins, Thulia follows, and her type of magic is far more intriguing to Nephandus.

    Lasty, Tanya is interested in the Hooligans? I thought she wanted to join the Flight club.

    I was a little confused by the "Stahlfaust" vs "StahlForce" though. Not sure if it was an intentional demeaning moniker, or an auto-correct problem.
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    • Amazing what a few years in the family business can do for some young men, isn't it?

    Between an affinity for iron, and the flames to fire up her own forge or glassblowing furnace now and then, it's probably better for Morgana that she didn't start out with the family spell book or a spirit on speed-dial.


    "Apparently she didn't get one of the Wiz packages that comes with spells, she'd going to have to learn it the hard way. Mind, once she does... well, I don't get to train many close-combat mages, so I'm going to keep an eye on her."


    That could be fun, too. Sometimes the best spell for the job is still a knife between the ribs.
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    • Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the iron affinity.

    Does that tie into the whole "blood" sisters thing? Thulia, demons, fire plane, the works.

    Also, the snarky remark about Bianca trying to paint the walls with her blood.
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    • hmm.... if she goes combat mage, it would be interesting. An Iron weapon. If she ended up sparring with Nikki...ouch. Then again, Nikki is probably no slouch at close combat by that time.
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    • Good read.

    About the athames. While the metals tested with are likely the only ones sold in the magic shop (sidenote: "I'd like to buy a magic knife please." "Certainly that will be $15." :silly: ) I wonder if other metals could potentially be used when the students forge their own. Maybe tungsten could be a good choice for Morgana due to its high melting point, or maybe some other metal could be more effective with her specific magic than the metals normally used.

    I'd forgotten about the monochromatic magic sight. Do we know of anyone else like that? The only one I can think of is Jade (more accurately: Jinn) who sees magic as red, though she's a Wizard 0 at best and her other colours are reserved for things other than magic.
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    • Angeldude wrote: Good read.

    About the athames. While the metals tested with are likely the only ones sold in the magic shop (sidenote: "I'd like to buy a magic knife please." "Certainly that will be $15." :silly: ) I wonder if other metals could potentially be used when the students forge their own. Maybe tungsten could be a good choice for Morgana due to its high melting point, or maybe some other metal could be more effective with her specific magic than the metals normally used.

    I'd forgotten about the monochromatic magic sight. Do we know of anyone else like that? The only one I can think of is Jade (more accurately: Jinn) who sees magic as red, though she's a Wizard 0 at best and her other colours are reserved for things other than magic.

    Tungsten would need a process completely different than RL metallurgical processes, the one we use for tungsten is rather expensive.
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    • Woah! So much info! Getting Morgana's view on things!

    And her own thoughts on her cult-phobia...

    Psychological tests and stuff are well thought out! ... Nice to see a kid go to their teachers for help!

    So, Morgana can see the ownership / will bonds between a caster and their castings... That might be useful as a prediction of magic-in-progress, and as easy detection of magic traps?

    Hmm... Who to ship Morgana with...

    did they think people with GSD looked that way because they wanted to? Like it was some sort of optional extra you ordered with your powers, like a side of fries?


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    • Angeldude wrote: Good read.

    About the athames. While the metals tested with are likely the only ones sold in the magic shop (sidenote: "I'd like to buy a magic knife please." "Certainly that will be $15." :silly: ) I wonder if other metals could potentially be used when the students forge their own. Maybe tungsten could be a good choice for Morgana due to its high melting point, or maybe some other metal could be more effective with her specific magic than the metals normally used.

    I'd forgotten about the monochromatic magic sight. Do we know of anyone else like that? The only one I can think of is Jade (more accurately: Jinn) who sees magic as red, though she's a Wizard 0 at best and her other colours are reserved for things other than magic.


    Tungsten needs an inert atmosphere to get the most out it's heat resistance. TIG Welding which uses a Tungsten electrode to create the arc uses Argon gas. If you forget to turn on the gas before starting an arc the tip of you electrode goes poof.

    Sharper the tip, the more control you have over your weld puddle.
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    • @ peter & mhalpern

    I'm not a chemist, blacksmith, or metallurgist. Tungsten was just the first thing that came to mind. The point is are other metals potentially usable for athames than just the 4 provided?
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    • Mithril is common. I don't know if Fey has one, but that'd be likely, if she did. I mean she has an entire sword made from it.
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    • Rose Bunny wrote: Mithril is common. I don't know if Fey has one, but that'd be likely, if she did. I mean she has an entire sword made from it.

    If by common you mean " $3,000 an ounce ."
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    • Arcanist Lupus wrote: If by common you mean " $3,000 an ounce ."


    If my calculations are correct, that's equivalent to $105.82 / g. According to brightside.me , that's slightly higher than the price of meth and slightly less then Rhinoceros’s horns. The same website has it at one and a half trillionths of the value of Tennyo's products. :-p
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    • Am I the only person waiting for them to do a minor summoning and have Morgana accidently call up Thulia? 'Cause I'm totally expecting that to happen.

    I can see it now, calling up Thulia, Thulia being in the same form as Morgana. Them going on a shopping trip. The teachers being wigged out by a student leading a demon around campus. Everyone figuring out she should be Demonsfyre instead of Dragonsfyre. People saying Bianca has a demonic bodyguard. Morgana not going on a date with Vixen because Bianca is jealous. Bianca and Morgana realizing they have feelings for eachother whoops how'd that get in there?
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    • Katssun wrote: I was a little confused by the "Stahlfaust" vs "StahlForce" though. Not sure if it was an intentional demeaning moniker, or an auto-correct problem.

    Stalefloss just needs to hire a better PR team.
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    • Malady wrote: Woah! So much info! Getting Morgana's view on things!

    And her own thoughts on her cult-phobia...

    Psychological tests and stuff are well thought out! ... Nice to see a kid go to their teachers for help!

    So, Morgana can see the ownership / will bonds between a caster and their castings... That might be useful as a prediction of magic-in-progress, and as easy detection of magic traps?

    Hmm... Who to ship Morgana with...

    did they think people with GSD looked that way because they wanted to? Like it was some sort of optional extra you ordered with your powers, like a side of fries?


    lololol! 'Cause with Mentally-Guided BITs, it actually is! Sorta! ... See: Thuban, etc.


    Morgana isn't seeing magical bonds.
    What she sees is basically essence flowing. So she could probably see the flow is someone is putting essence into something, but seeing a spell being cast is likely too quick to be of much help to her.
    But she cant tell anything about what the spell is, just that power is moving.
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    • Followups to a few points

    (1) Power Theory is now less boring, as Quintain is one of those missing in action.
    (2) The issue of materials and magic correspondences is big, complicated (and often contradictory!). Expect to see more on this.
    (3) Morgana isn't the only close combat mage Dennon has trained, they are just pretty rare. You need a mage who is tough enough that combat is practical (that's usually a high-exemplar or high-regen mage), and doesn't consider hand-to-hand beneath them, and is prepared to put some effort in. Magestic, in G1, could have been one, but she'd sneer at the idea of training to hit someone.
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    • null0trooper wrote: Amazing what a few years in the family business can do for some young men, isn't it?

    Between an affinity for iron, and the flames to fire up her own forge or glassblowing furnace now and then, it's probably better for Morgana that she didn't start out with the family spell book or a spirit on speed-dial.


    "Apparently she didn't get one of the Wiz packages that comes with spells, she'd going to have to learn it the hard way. Mind, once she does... well, I don't get to train many close-combat mages, so I'm going to keep an eye on her."


    That could be fun, too. Sometimes the best spell for the job is still a knife between the ribs.


    Nah, what use is a glass dagger...:D
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    • A few people have mentioned that anti-GSD feeling seems more noticeable.
    Not really, just that in G2 we have 4 kids who had mild/moderate GSD, so we see there reactions to it much more often.
    Before, it was just remarks/something hapenning to somebody else.
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    • Of course this is Whateley, so either some gadgeteer or devisor could have a relatively inexpensive means of refining and forming tungsten, or stuff like what we consider "Super alloys" can be more available, though the extreme heat resistant metals still have the problem of sintering (welding metal dust together) being one of the few practical ways of forming them into shapes, which is going to leave you with microscopic air pockets where the dust didn't fill up, the finer the powder the fewer problems but the harder it is to make, part of why not only does SpaceX print their engines but it takes months to print just one of them with the best tech available, highest detail, finest grit, and they aren't exactly "small".

    Again though, this is Whateley, what's more is that they are at Whateley Academy, probably the best place in their world to get exotic materials and have access to advanced and exotic manufacturing processes, (at reduced prices) and probably one of the only places where barter, trade and favor deals can yield you significantly more value than you put in, mind you, that can also be because even when they know the value of their stuff, the gadgeteers and devisors do try and tie some custom projects with graded lab, if it isn't something they'd use for themselves or would normally make for sale. Taking advantage of the even further reduced cost as its for a class, and providing them with money (or favors or equipment) to help progress their personal projects.

    The earplugs are going to be trickier, they need to be extremely heat resistant and filter but not block sound, also comfort and discretion is a priority for something you plan to wear all the time, few things are worse to wear for extended periods of time than bad earbuds/earplugs.
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    • Astrodragon wrote:

    null0trooper wrote: Amazing what a few years in the family business can do for some young men, isn't it?

    Between an affinity for iron, and the flames to fire up her own forge or glassblowing furnace now and then, it's probably better for Morgana that she didn't start out with the family spell book or a spirit on speed-dial.


    "Apparently she didn't get one of the Wiz packages that comes with spells, she'd going to have to learn it the hard way. Mind, once she does... well, I don't get to train many close-combat mages, so I'm going to keep an eye on her."


    That could be fun, too. Sometimes the best spell for the job is still a knife between the ribs.


    Nah, what use is a glass dagger...:D

    Obsidian is a natural glass, also I would say that considering glass is one of the most common improvised sharp weapons.. and that glass arrow heads are pretty comparable to metal ones in penetrative power...
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    • Remember that for a custom athame, we're talking about magical correspondences for materials, rather than their physical properties.

    Iron has a correspondence with fire, and with blood, hence the 'easy choices' for Morgana and Bianca.
    Later on they will probably spend the effort (and money) to make something more finely-tuned, but that isn't necessary right now.
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    • Angeldude wrote: @ peter & mhalpern

    I'm not a chemist, blacksmith, or metallurgist. Tungsten was just the first thing that came to mind. The point is are other metals potentially usable for athames than just the 4 provided?


    The point for an athame isn't the chemistry or melting point of the material, or even how practical it is as a weapon (wrong class) so much as the material's traditional correspondences to different magical and/or alchemical themes or entities. Gold (solar), mercury, copper (Venus), silver (lunar), iron (Mars), tin (Jupiter - which tells you some of these attributions date literally to the Bronze Age), lead (Saturn), and their alloys are going to be your top choices for constructing an athame.

    Technically, anything can be used for an athame, but those matters of the magician's personal style, meanings, and connections come into play when they're the one making it for their own use.
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    • Rose Bunny wrote: Mithril is common. I don't know if Fey has one, but that'd be likely, if she did. I mean she has an entire sword made from it.


    I believe that Fey uses Malachai's Feather for her Athame, when she needs one. It is Mithril.
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    • Valentine wrote:

    Rose Bunny wrote: Mithril is common. I don't know if Fey has one, but that'd be likely, if she did. I mean she has an entire sword made from it.


    I believe that Fey uses Malachai's Feather for her Athame, when she needs one. It is Mithril.

    She probably does, I would just imagine it'd be kinda handy to have a smaller blade for that sort of thing, since it is a Scimitar.
    It's

    That might be unwieldy for ceremonial use as a knife.
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    • null0trooper wrote: Technically, anything can be used for an athame, but those matters of the magician's personal style, meanings, and connections come into play when they're the one making it for their own use.

    Looking forward to Bianca using a dinner fork. She said she would be looking for a steel athame...
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    • Enjoyable read. I'm of the personal opinion that it would be even better if we didn't get summaries of events that get covered in other books as well, but I still enjoyed it. I may also be in a minority about wanting to read conversations from dual perspectives.

    I'm curious how long it'll take us to learn the identity of this mystery person who thinks he's getting into Morgana's pants... and I'm curious if Morgana will have an interest in men at all. I believe there is a canonical questionmark regarding her sexuality because we don't bloody know yet. That she'd like girls seems obvious (being as she's a former heterosexual male) but that doesn't mean she won't form an interest in men now.

    I just hope she finds someone more worthy of her... and fireproof.
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    • Iwasforger03 wrote: I'm curious how long it'll take us to learn the identity of this mystery person who thinks he's getting into Morgana's pants... and I'm curious if Morgana will have an interest in men at all. I believe there is a canonical questionmark regarding her sexuality because we don't bloody know yet. That she'd like girls seems obvious (being as she's a former heterosexual male) but that doesn't mean she won't form an interest in men now.

    I just hope she finds someone more worthy of her... and fireproof.

    My impression is that both of the mage girls are showing at least a passing curiosity about AJ, but Bianca is partially turned off because he's a Bad Seed and they betrayed her to an incredible degree, and Morgana has issues with men in general from her treatment by the cult...and boys wanting to "conquer" her isn't going to help that any.

    So it is far too early for anything beyond wild guesses. The two girls endured too raw and fresh, but I'm guessing Bianca will eventually start to lean heterosexual, and Morgana bisexual, but probably pushed away from men for a long time.
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    • Ah yes, Morgana's proclivities, and her love life (or lack of one)...

    I promise you'll get some answers soon. Really. Real Soon Now.
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    • Katssun wrote:

    null0trooper wrote: Technically, anything can be used for an athame, but those matters of the magician's personal style, meanings, and connections come into play when they're the one making it for their own use.

    Looking forward to Bianca using a dinner fork. She said she would be looking for a steel athame...
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    • Rose Bunny wrote:

    Valentine wrote:

    Rose Bunny wrote: Mithril is common. I don't know if Fey has one, but that'd be likely, if she did. I mean she has an entire sword made from it.


    I believe that Fey uses Malachai's Feather for her Athame, when she needs one. It is Mithril.

    She probably does, I would just imagine it'd be kinda handy to have a smaller blade for that sort of thing, since it is a Scimitar.
    It's

    That might be unwieldy for ceremonial use as a knife.


    Just jumped into my mind. Showing my age.

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    • Astrodragon wrote: (3) Morgana isn't the only close combat mage Dennon has trained, they are just pretty rare. You need a mage who is tough enough that combat is practical (that's usually a high-exemplar or high-regen mage), and doesn't consider hand-to-hand beneath them, and is prepared to put some effort in. Magestic, in G1, could have been one, but she'd sneer at the idea of training to hit someone.


    Nikki probably qualifies as a close-combat mage. Not that she uses much hand-to-hand combat since sword-to-hand combat works so much better. :D
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    7 years 8 months ago #74 by Jarjaross
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    • Astrodragon wrote: Ah yes, Morgana's proclivities, and her love life (or lack of one)...

    I promise you'll get some answers soon. Really. Real Soon Now.


    Uh huh, yeah, sure, real convincing there Astro.
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    7 years 8 months ago #75 by Katssun
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    • Arcanist Lupus wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: (3) Morgana isn't the only close combat mage Dennon has trained, they are just pretty rare. You need a mage who is tough enough that combat is practical (that's usually a high-exemplar or high-regen mage), and doesn't consider hand-to-hand beneath them, and is prepared to put some effort in. Magestic, in G1, could have been one, but she'd sneer at the idea of training to hit someone.


    Nikki probably qualifies as a close-combat mage. Not that she uses much hand-to-hand combat since sword-to-hand combat works so much better. :D

    Sword-to-minus hand?
    7 years 8 months ago #76 by Astrodragon
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    • Jarjaross wrote:

    Astrodragon wrote: Ah yes, Morgana's proclivities, and her love life (or lack of one)...

    I promise you'll get some answers soon. Really. Real Soon Now.


    Uh huh, yeah, sure, real convincing there Astro.


    Gee, anyone would think you don't trust me!

    Trust the Dragon, the Dragon is your friend...:D
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    7 years 8 months ago #77 by Anne
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    • We know authors. You enjoy using your characters as chew toys! Oh and if they didn't have 'interesting' lives why would you want to write about them or we want to read them!?
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    • He carried on, still smirking. "Well, most of the kids with pointy ears are Sidhe, or relatives. They hate cold iron, in fact a lot of them get burned at the touch. Didn't you see how Red avoided it like it was dangerous? To him, it was."

    So is this confirmation that Reinforce's roommate Red is a Sidhe, and a magic user as well? I wonder if Morgana will have a fellow mage in her future Brick combat class.

    I would have liked to see a bit more of the various interactions between Morgana and Bianca from Morgana's POV, rather than just a few short paragraphs for the most part, but it did have enough detail to keep me from being lost. And the scenes that are new are nicely written.
    Despite all the horrible stuff that has happened to her, Morgana is surprisingly upbeat. Looking at the good points of being badly beaten, as it healed the last of the scars. Bouncing back within seconds after getting beaten badly by Eldritch and thinking she had to go to Hawethorne, etc. It's nice without going overboard into Pollyanna territory.
    It was an enjoyable read for a long car ride.
    7 years 8 months ago #79 by Astrodragon
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    • The issue about rewriting a scene from another POV is tricky. Too much, and its just reading the same stuff again.
    OTOH, its useful to at least put it in briefly, as it shows you points at which the various stories interract.

    Yes, Morgana is basically cheerful. Its partly coping with what has happened to her. Either she tries to bounce her way through it, or she goes all Kayda-ish. Of course, what you see on the surface isn't always what's going on.
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    • I find it interesting that Morgana's ordeal has left her more comfortable with semi-public nudity rather than less. I could easily see that going in either direction.
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    7 years 8 months ago #81 by Astrodragon
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    • Arcanist Lupus wrote: I find it interesting that Morgana's ordeal has left her more comfortable with semi-public nudity rather than less. I could easily see that going in either direction.


    Morgana's view on it is pretty simple.

    Considering the way they treated her in the dungeon, and what they did to her, being naked was the least of her worries. And getting paranoid about it afterwards is not just fairly pointless, its giving the Cult a victory of sorts.
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    7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #82 by konzill
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    • I'm really enjoying this story. Morgana is a refreshingly non-angsty character, please please, please, please, keep her that way. She and Bianca are so far my favourites in Gen 2 for several reasons. Suffice it to say that I think this story gets the balance betwen slice of life and plot progression about right.

    The only Criticism I would make is that the occasional head hopping is jarring, you should really try to remove it while editing. I think the most jarring was in part one of the story where we went from Morgana's head to a Nurse's head for exactly one line and then back to Morgana again.
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    • @knzill

    I agree. I very much enjoy seeing her get used to her new environment and abilities. Watching her cast her first spell is just adorable.

    Something I forgot to mention earlier is that Smokey is too damn cute. Smokey best character for Gen 2! ^_^
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    • Well, I can't promise that angst wont intrude into Morgana's life at time, she isn't the sort to wallow in it.
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