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7 years 10 months ago #1 by JG

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The story is now live.

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7 years 10 months ago #2 by Malady

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All of Catilin's irreverence is hilarious!

Expected Miranda to reappear sooner than she did, but hey, this isn't focused on Miranda.

So, does Adore like her powerset, or not??

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7 years 10 months ago #3 by JG

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adore has her ups and downs

7 years 10 months ago #4 by Yolandria

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*Hops up and down!* Finally! The story we have all been waiting for!

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7 years 10 months ago #5 by Iwasforger03

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MIRANDA! YAY! She's adorable, and I'm so glad she hugged Cait... oh god, poor Cait. Dragonslayers running the Range. This is going to... PRISON BITCH is on Squad 3? Hell yeah, let's fuck some motherfuckers!

I really really really am happy to get more JG. REALLY happy. But Joe? F you sir. I pegged to friggin Miranda in R and R the first time, but NO! NO! It's had to be that bloody simple, didn't you, you raging arse?

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #6 by JG

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Your hatred only makes me more powerful.
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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #7 by Arcanist Lupus

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Question: Is Prison Bitch smarter than he acts?
Answer: His reply included a reference to good ol' Gilbert and Sullivan. Hell yes.

And now we've officially caught up to the original Outcast Intros!

No, Mistmonster, you're not turning into a Lovecraftian Horror. In the words of the French Taunter, "We've already got one!" (Although we do seem to have misplaced her at the moment.)

Although to be honest, having both Sara and Adore on campus at the same time would be asking for trouble.

Noms. Yes, moving out of the basement means that you have to share showers. But those showers are Hydroflux showers, so I suspect that you won't mind in the long run.
Actually, wait, you're on the boys side. So maybe not then. Sorry for getting your hopes up.

Edit: I can't believe I didn't mention this the first time, but the scene where Miranda meets Cait, Diamond, and Dimes was adorable and sweet. Also, it reminded me somewhat of the story of the Wolf's Eyelashes .

Also, Miranda is approaching Fubar levels of power? Yikes.

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7 years 10 months ago #8 by Dreamer

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7 years 10 months ago #9 by Katssun

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Arcanist Lupus wrote: Noms. Yes, moving out of the basement means that you have to share showers. But those showers are Hydroflux showers, so I suspect that you won't mind in the long run.
Actually, wait, you're on the boys side. So maybe not then. Sorry for getting your hopes up.

They're just stuck on the boys side. Remember from No Place Like Poe that there are too many girls this year and the usual way too many changelings, but below average gay boys. Just a longer walk to the bathroom for Murphy and Noms.

By the usual rules that have Ayla creeping on the girls from a particular sink: Look like a girl, Use the girl's bathroom.

7 years 10 months ago #10 by Valentine

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So how long can Cait keep her identity secret from the other Dragonslayers? The first Sim that OC runs and one of them monitors it? The first Hooligan run, because I doubt that they aren't go look up the Hooligans? At some point when Jeckel is testing her for Range Duty? Whichever of these happens first? First time they see her MID?

Four kids way strong, without real control, and lacking the maturity to understand why they need control. Fortunately they don't seem cruel or mean. Cait, and the other Thornies are in for a long year.

I wonder if one of the OC will confront Mrs. Horton or Mrs. Carson about getting the Poe TGs and non Poe TGs together. The Outcasts, and their new GSD changlings, could probably use a bit more support. Then again Toni and Fey and Noms and Diamondback just might take it into their own hands and force the issue.

I hope Cait and Razor can introduce Adam to Miranda.

I do want to know whose idea it was to have three little kids with varying levels of control be tested at the same time?

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #11 by Katssun

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Valentine wrote: I do want to know whose idea it was to have three little kids with varying levels of control be tested at the same time?

Staff members who thought they'd feel more comfortable if they were near kids their own age, and forgot about any previous experience they've had with Ember amid the chaos of processing a batch of new kids, that's who.

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7 years 10 months ago #12 by JG

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Let's be fair, the odds of Ember not being scared absolutely shitless of lighting a person ON FIRE when she came in is slim and none.

"No, no no I don't want to hurt anyone again!" was probably heard a lot during powers testing.

She's a good kid.

With a terrifying power set.

7 years 10 months ago #13 by Valentine

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JG wrote: Let's be fair, the odds of Ember not being scared absolutely shitless of lighting a person ON FIRE when she came in is slim and none.

"No, no no I don't want to hurt anyone again!" was probably heard a lot during powers testing.

She's a good kid.

With a terrifying power set.

It's not age when kids manifest that makes them more powerful, it's size. All these kids are small and they are very powerful.

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7 years 10 months ago #14 by Katssun

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It is terminally adorable that Morgan appears as a girl more often, partly because he can't control it so well, but probably more that his friends are girls and who wants to be the odd one out?

7 years 10 months ago #15 by Esar

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I loved every interactions between Cait and Miranda.

And team awesome is ... well ... awesome.

Thank you JG.

7 years 10 months ago #16 by Mister D

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JG wrote: The story is now live.

Hope you enjoy!

Yes!

Excellent start. Looking forward to the next episodes.

It was also good to find out why that Mastermind had Timeless set up the Crash for the Outcasts. It's also wise of Jericho to continue, but at least now, they'll be prepared for it, rather than the Outcasts thinking that someone had it in for them. (Yes, someone DID, but not for the reasons that they thought...)

It'll be interesting to see what happens when they catch up with the people involved...

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #17 by Schol-R-LEA

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I had long wondered if the early Outcast stories involving them greeting a group of changelings were going to get de-canonized, especially since none of the new Poesies matched the descriptions. Now I can see that these weren't all the new changelings, the were just the new Thornie changelings.

And wholly carp, that means that there's a fuckload of changelings in this one year. Either that, or... changelings with GSD (I almost said 'BSD', which would be rather amusing) are a lot more common than we thought. This shouldn't be too surprising, though; we know that last year there were Diamondback, Razorback, Tool, Miyet, Chimera, and Ponygirl (assuming that part of her background stayed the same) - and that's just the ones we know of.

I think the secrets go deeper than we have been lead to believe, and I can only assume that a lot of the recent storylines were plotted out much earlier than most would assume. We, the readers, knew it was true form some aspects of it, but the amount of storyboarding this must have taken is staggering.

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7 years 10 months ago #18 by mhalpern

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Schol-R-LEA wrote: I had long wondered if the early Outcast stories involving them greeting a group of changelings were going to get de-canonized, especially since none of the new Poesies matched the descriptions. Now I can see that these weren't all the new changelings, the were just the new Thornie changelings.

And wholly carp, that means that there's a fuckload of changelings in this one year. Either that, or... changelings with GSD (I almost said 'BSD', which would be rather amusing) are a lot more common than we thought. This shouldn't be too surprising, though; we know that last year there were Diamondback, Razorback, Tool, Miyet, Chimera, and Ponygirl (assuming that part of her background stayed the same) - and that's just the ones we know of.

I think the secrets go deeper than we have been lead to believe, and I can only assume that a lot of the recent storylines were plotted out much earlier than most would assume. We, the readers, knew it was true form some aspects of it, but the amount of storyboarding this must have taken is staggering.

And Cyberkitty if I remember correctly. There are a couple factors, 1 changeling frequency could mostly be in bursts, 2 remember the kids who go to Whatelely are the ones who can afford it and the ones that NEED it, changelings at least have to move districts or go to a private school or homeschool, if they can get the student records by normal means, hard to hide GSD generally would require homeschooling and expert knowledge for health concerns related to the new body, or a private school that is GSD friendly.

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #19 by Sir Lee

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Well, Razor and Tool/Demona are actually Class of 2009. And we don't know which class Chimera is part off. So, Class of 2010 had four (Cyberkitty, Diamondback, Miyet and Ponygirl), maybe five GSD Changelings.

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #20 by Iwasforger03

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Still a lot of changelings, even more, possibly, than team kimba's year, and the year has only begun. Sphere, Roulette, Ribbon, and what, 3 more in Poe (not counting the "freshman" leftover from last year), and another what, 6+ in the GSD dorms?

It was in a language dead to time that the Nightstick had the words Foundation Breaker inscribed six times with shock runes in a language long dead and forgotten. Caitlin intended to shake the ground.

Bit of a redundant wording there.

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7 years 10 months ago #21 by Esar

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Iwasforger03 wrote: Still a lot of changelings, even more, possibly, than team kimba's year, and the year has only begun. Sphere, Roulette, Ribbon, and what, 3 more in Poe (not counting the "freshman" leftover from last year), and another what, 6+ in the GSD dorms?

If you have not already done so, you might want to read The Braeburn Report .

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7 years 10 months ago #22 by Malady

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^ There's been chatter that the Report isn't that accurate.

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #23 by elrodw

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mhalpern wrote: And Cyberkitty if I remember correctly. There are a couple factors, 1 changeling frequency could mostly be in bursts, 2 remember the kids who go to Whatelely are the ones who can afford it and the ones that NEED it, changelings at least have to move districts or go to a private school or homeschool, if they can get the student records by normal means, hard to hide GSD generally would require homeschooling and expert knowledge for health concerns related to the new body, or a private school that is GSD friendly.

I touched on that briefly in IDTWIKA: One quote:

Annette chuckled. "Yeah, we got a big batch of changelings this year! Mrs. H said it only happened once before, and she's hopeful this batch isn't as full of problems as the last one."

and also:

"We're not alone; there are more of us changelings, and we all room at Poe. Well, mostly." She smiled and looked around again. "Although usually, there are only two or three in each class. There was a rather ... infamous ... spike in changelings several years ago, and your numbers apparently have the powers-that-be in a tizzy, just like that last group, because there are, statistically speaking, far too many of you - just like the last time. No one ever figured out why - there are probably fifty theories, but apparently, it's happened again. Don't be surprised if the power boffins want to spend extra time with you. From the stories I've heard, if you guys are anything like them, it might drive our beloved housemother Mrs. Horton to retire ...."

So - there's an uptick in this Gen 1 timeframe that's an anomaly that was never figured out, and in Gen 2, there's another unusual spike in numbers of changelings.

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7 years 10 months ago #24 by Valentine

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Remember that Tool falls into the Reach/Folder/Jobe classification. He was a semi controlled shifter, before he became Demona. So while she's now a changeling, it isn't because of manifesting. You would have to classify Jimmy T and Reinforce as changelings too, if you want to put Tool into that category.

The Freshman 2006 class is skewed, but if you look at it, Josie Gilman, Anomaly, Whisper, Pejuta, Fey, Tennyo, Bladedancer, Phase, Heyoka, and Miyet were all changed by some outside force, not as part of their mutant power manifesting. Would they have changed without the external force? That isn't known. That leaves a much smaller group of TGs that either switched from their mutation and/or were TG before they mutated.

The Freshman 2007 looks similar, but not as extreme, Pounce, Knockoff, Absinthe, Sphere, Adore, and maybe Ribbon (not sure since her entire manifestation wasn't natural) had some outside force affecting their manifestation. Peacock probably falls into the first group. We don't have origins for the other TGs. Christina, Victory, and Shawn.

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7 years 10 months ago #25 by Ametros

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Was great to see Toni finally twig when Noms let the identical twin thing slip, and Diamondback becoming increasingly aware in return. Meanwhile Miranda is precious, as is her interactions at the end with Eldritch and "family".

I really can't wait for the inevitable get together of Eldritch and the other Dragonslayers. Even if it doesn't appear as a written scene, I feel it necessary that they watch the footage (or a re-enactment) of her tearing that Dragonslayer sim apart sometime.

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7 years 10 months ago #26 by Malady

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Hmm... I wonder how close to likely my planned Micro Scene will be:

The TLW use their wands and crystals' enormous storage power, with Ayla's help, and possibly She-Beast's as well, to start a Magical Stock Market / Investment thing, like he was talking about with Circe.

Not sure what the TLW get out of it, other than favors, and possibly magical items... ... Okay, good enough and useful enough items, I think they might be interested? ... They seem to think in the moment... ... Money is gonna be really useful for them... I really shouldn't disregard that as a incentive to participate...

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7 years 10 months ago #27 by Anne

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Testing those three together had to have been a SNAFU by someone in the testing department. No way that should have happened. Only thing worse to have happened would have been to test all the manglers at the same time!

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7 years 10 months ago #28 by Phoenix Spiritus

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Miranda is "off the scales" powerful.

It has probably made sense for ages to run all the pre-high school students down together with their chaperone, both to minimise time needed by the chaperone in the labs and also to shield the juniors from 'interactions' with unpredictable older students.

It just bit them on the ass big time on this occasion, but in general it does make sense.

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True!

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7 years 10 months ago #30 by Domoviye

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I like how both stories this week ended in hugs that were desperately needed.

So it seems Eric gained his emotions in his argument with his father. Interesting.
I remember in the story where she gained her tattoos that early in highschool he went into a rage while being punched by a much larger jock, and that was when the artificer parasite latched on. So it seems it primed Eric to be set off by anger, rather than another emotion.

I have to say I'd be right beside Caitlin in going into a rage at how his parents treated his sister. No child should have anything like that happen to them.

7 years 10 months ago #31 by Phoenix Spiritus

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Domoviye is back!

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I was responding to emails it wasn't like I had totally disappeared.

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JG, loving this one very much. Busted out laughing at several points, and had my Muse Squee and grab little miss Spider. Glad you completed the paradox or what ever, and didn't rip a hole in space and time.

Honestly, I was wondering, before this, if M wasn't Erik's sister but really Erik's kid by way of... the little bit GSD girl who's name is escaping me right now he had a thing with in high school or what ever. Suppose it is still possible, but I'm pretty sure I read the flash backs as you intended them.

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #34 by Schol-R-LEA

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Cryptic wrote: Glad you completed the paradox or what ever, and didn't rip a hole in space and time.

Paradox? So this story arc was a Vision Quest as part of JG's personal Ascension?

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7 years 10 months ago #35 by JG

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and soon I will devour the sunnydale graduating class and become a God.

7 years 10 months ago #36 by Cryptic

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JG wrote: and soon I will devour the sunnydale graduating class and become a God.

I do see a bit a a family resemblance to Sara now that you mention it...

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #37 by Schol-R-LEA

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Ah, Descent, then. I forgot you were required to walk the Labyrinth when you joined the CC (TINCC).

(Though Starwolf always called the 'Spiral' for some reason...)

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #38 by Dpragan

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Hmm if Miranda is only APPROACHING Fubar's power-level then likely Fubar knows that there are two sets of thought patterns in Sandra (Siamese Triplet-psychic division?) even if he is too well schooled/polite to intrude on the thought patterns.

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That may very well be the case.

The question is: Has fubar had a reason to pick Diamond out of the background static of the student body?

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Her well-known psychic rampage through Whitman, obliterating a colony of calibans?

7 years 10 months ago #41 by Iwasforger03

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Good point Kat. Still, he seems like the sort of fellow who wouldn't make a big deal of it unless it was necessary. I guess it just hasn't been necessary enough to happen on screen?

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JG wrote: That may very well be the case.

The question is: Has fubar had a reason to pick Diamond out of the background static of the student body?

Wouldn't that be a yes, since he was in charge of the Whateley Gamers wrapping up her powers in Child of Confusion?

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7 years 10 months ago #43 by null0trooper

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Valentine wrote:
JG wrote: That may very well be the case.

The question is: Has fubar had a reason to pick Diamond out of the background static of the student body?

Wouldn't that be a yes, since he was in charge of the Whateley Gamers wrapping up her powers in Child of Confusion?

For that matter, wouldn't she now be a good candidate for the Dream Team (along with Esoteric)? Heyoka and Nobody died, while Anno Domini should have graduated.

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7 years 10 months ago #44 by mhalpern

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null0trooper wrote:
Valentine wrote:
JG wrote: That may very well be the case.

The question is: Has fubar had a reason to pick Diamond out of the background static of the student body?

Wouldn't that be a yes, since he was in charge of the Whateley Gamers wrapping up her powers in Child of Confusion?

For that matter, wouldn't she now be a good candidate for the Dream Team (along with Esoteric)? Heyoka and Nobody died, while Anno Domini should have graduated.

Depends on how much control she has projecting, She did a good job with Caitlin but that wasn't something that she needed to use too much precision for, and she was noticed almost immediately, the Dream Team has to operate without being noticed, so until she can go from broadsword to scalpel, maybe not a good idea.

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mhalpern wrote:
null0trooper wrote: For that matter, wouldn't she now be a good candidate for the Dream Team (along with Esoteric)? Heyoka and Nobody died, while Anno Domini should have graduated.

Depends on how much control she has projecting, She did a good job with Caitlin but that wasn't something that she needed to use too much precision for, and she was noticed almost immediately, the Dream Team has to operate without being noticed, so until she can go from broadsword to scalpel, maybe not a good idea.

I'm talking about Diamondback (Sandra Carter). Except for Fubar, the Dream Team are mostly astral mages, devisors, and exemplars, not telepaths/telekinetics. They "operate without being noticed" because not many people can notice what they do, but they're usually a prime target for those that can.

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7 years 10 months ago #46 by mhalpern

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null0trooper wrote:
mhalpern wrote:
null0trooper wrote: For that matter, wouldn't she now be a good candidate for the Dream Team (along with Esoteric)? Heyoka and Nobody died, while Anno Domini should have graduated.

Depends on how much control she has projecting, She did a good job with Caitlin but that wasn't something that she needed to use too much precision for, and she was noticed almost immediately, the Dream Team has to operate without being noticed, so until she can go from broadsword to scalpel, maybe not a good idea.

I'm talking about Diamondback (Sandra Carter). Except for Fubar, the Dream Team are mostly astral mages, devisors, and exemplars, not telepaths/telekinetics. They "operate without being noticed" because not many people can notice what they do, but they're usually a prime target for those that can.

I thought that you were talking about Miranda

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mhalpern wrote:
null0trooper wrote: I'm talking about Diamondback (Sandra Carter). Except for Fubar, the Dream Team are mostly astral mages, devisors, and exemplars, not telepaths/telekinetics. They "operate without being noticed" because not many people can notice what they do, but they're usually a prime target for those that can.
I thought that you were talking about Miranda

Nah. She probably has the power to brute-force her way onto the astral, but that's no place for a kid's mind to be roaming. It's a dangerous enough place for an adult.

Hopefully, if she does start perceiving or projecting she'll tell Caitlin or Louis ASAP.

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7 years 10 months ago #48 by mhalpern

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null0trooper wrote:
mhalpern wrote:
null0trooper wrote: I'm talking about Diamondback (Sandra Carter). Except for Fubar, the Dream Team are mostly astral mages, devisors, and exemplars, not telepaths/telekinetics. They "operate without being noticed" because not many people can notice what they do, but they're usually a prime target for those that can.
I thought that you were talking about Miranda

Nah. She probably has the power to brute-force her way onto the astral, but that's no place for a kid's mind to be roaming. It's a dangerous enough place for an adult.

Hopefully, if she does start perceiving or projecting she'll tell Caitlin or Louis ASAP.

She probably will end up with astral awareness when she gets better at being gentle with her powers, the fact that she is likely to spend some time around Diamondback and pick up what she sees makes it more likely to happen.

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null0trooper wrote: For that matter, wouldn't she now be a good candidate for the Dream Team (along with Esoteric)? Heyoka and Nobody died, while Anno Domini should have graduated.

Depends on how much control she has projecting, She did a good job with Caitlin but that wasn't something that she needed to use too much precision for, and she was noticed almost immediately, the Dream Team has to operate without being noticed, so until she can go from broadsword to scalpel, maybe not a good idea.

I'm talking about Diamondback (Sandra Carter). Except for Fubar, the Dream Team are mostly astral mages, devisors, and exemplars, not telepaths/telekinetics. They "operate without being noticed" because not many people can notice what they do, but they're usually a prime target for those that can.

Diamondback would be an excellent candidate for membership, especially since she can do something the others can't. She can see the spirits ALL of the time. She doesn't have to go "Astral" to go looking for them, she can see the while ~~walking~~ slithering around campus.

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Diamond isn't "seeing" the Astral.

She EXISTS in the astral. she can touch both sides at once.

Which means a wall in the astral will bar her passage even if there's a clear hallway in front of her. Astral projection is not as much an option for her.

7 years 10 months ago #51 by Yolandria

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But if my memory serves...She can phase in and out of the Astral at will. So a Astral wall would not do much to stop her. Even though it's not for very long. It still should be long enough to pop through it.

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Not quite.

It's more like Sandra is always in the physical world, and Ryan is always in the astral world. Overlapping coexisting bodies.

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Katssun wrote: Not quite.

It's more like Sandra is always in the physical world, and Ryan is always in the astral world. Overlapping coexisting bodies.

Not quite, they're each focusing on processing what's on both sides of the astral and physical, each focusing on watching one side.

Their body exists in both simultaneously. there is no separation.

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So, what you're saying is that Diamond is kind of a bridge, with each watching an end?

If so, the implications of that are a bit scary.

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I began wondering last night how long it will take the Slayers to realize who Cait is/was.

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I've got five rice crispie treats made with deluxe mallow that it takes them until christmas when they see her combat final.

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7 years 10 months ago #57 by Cryptic

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Iwasforger03 wrote: I've got five rice crispie treats made with deluxe mallow that it takes them until christmas when they see her combat final.

I say with in a month IF she does some running with the Hooligans.

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I doubt it will take them that long. The bonds are too strong not too. And with them being full time employee's now. Her exposure to them on a full time basis will clearly set off flags in their mind until eventually the dam breaks and all the clues flood Range 4. Or one run with the Hooligans. Which ever comes first. Just the fact that Cait sucks at pretending to be a girl should be enough of a clue that something's not right.

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JG wrote:
Katssun wrote: Not quite.

It's more like Sandra is always in the physical world, and Ryan is always in the astral world. Overlapping coexisting bodies.

Not quite, they're each focusing on processing what's on both sides of the astral and physical, each focusing on watching one side.

Their body exists in both simultaneously. there is no separation.

So in thoery a patch of astral ice ...

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Cryptic wrote: I began wondering last night how long it will take the Slayers to realize who Cait is/was.

First poker game, at latest, because she'll still have most of the tells (or lack thereof) as Mahren unmedicated.

Depending on how often Security runs scenarios in the Arenas and Sims to keep tactics and skills fresh (or to double-check the prep for an upcoming bug hunt in an unfamiliar location), it could be sooner.

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Yolandria wrote: Just the fact that Cait sucks at pretending to be a girl should be enough of a clue that something's not right.

Wait, Cait's pretending to be a girl?

Really, I just thought the method was to continue along as usual, not giving a damn about appearances, and just pretend to be a student. Which she does kinda suck at, to be fair.

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Except that they would have no cause to play poker with Eldritch...

Another fun question: what are they going to think about Everhart? She's going to stand out even more, considering her name is familiar and she's high up in the security chain despite looking like a teenager.

Anyone want to take bets as to which Equalizer figures out Caitlyn first? I'm betting that it's Prison Bitch.

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Arcanist Lupus wrote: what are they going to think about Everhart? She's going to stand out even more, considering her name is familiar and she's high up in the security chain despite looking like a teenager.

If you recall Everheart ended-up looking like his teenage daughter... throw in some powers and abilities and it's easy enough to explain some of the oddity... where it falls down is if any of them were familiar enough with Everheart 1.0 to recognize habits and behaviours.

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Sam doesn't have to worry about hiding from them. She can out herself at anytime without any consequences. Unlike Cait. Who is trying to blend in so to speak.

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Sam has no reasons to care about keeping her origin a secret. Everybody who COULD cause problems to her already knows. Sam stays at Whateley not to hide, but because:
a) She does not have anything pulling her to anywhere else - -no family, close friends other than Curley, etc.
b) She has a good, interesting, personally rewarding job.
c) The Whateley neutrality deals keep the U.S. military from recalling her to active duty and then ordering her to be a lab rat.

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Sir Lee wrote: Sam has no reasons to care about keeping her origin a secret. Everybody who COULD cause problems to her already knows. Sam stays at Whateley not to hide, but because:
a) She does not have anything pulling her to anywhere else - -no family, close friends other than Curley, etc.
b) She has a good, interesting, personally rewarding job.
c) The Whateley neutrality deals keep the U.S. military from recalling her to active duty and then ordering her to be a lab rat.

And Nikki's dad asked her to watch over Nikki.

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Za, za, dis is truth. Hmmmmmm Everheart is an admiral as well, so it's useful to still have her old identity, in some ways, even if she looks nothing like her old self.

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Arcanist Lupus wrote: Except that they would have no cause to play poker with Eldritch...

She still has Range access if not explicit duties and so works directly with Heckel and Jeckel. As a Security Auxiliary, she'll be in a position to interact with Worm, Lieutenant Dom, God’s Messenger, and especially Prison Bitch, given Platoon Three's poor habits.

These being the new guys, it wouldn't be right to not bring her in as a ringer just to screw with their perceptions a bit. But she's also lacking in the brain/mouth filtering functions - sooner or later she might give the guys a good reason to show Gunny's kid how the game is really played.

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Wait, wait, Everheart AND Caitlin in a tag team poker match against the other six... no? well, I think it would be hilarious.

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Iwasforger03 wrote: Wait, wait, Everheart AND Caitlin in a tag team poker match against the other six... no? well, I think it would be hilarious.

I think this is a winning formula. Replace poker with just about anything. Throw them in a sim, perhaps? That'd be a hoot.

...Outcast Corner versus The Dragonslayers. I feel like I've suggested it before, but it could do with being mentioned again, no?

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Ametros wrote:
...Outcast Corner versus The Dragonslayers. I feel like I've suggested it before, but it could do with being mentioned again, no?

Dear God this is buckets of bad idea

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Well, two members of that group have already FACED the Dragonslayers... I see no reason not to make it a round six.

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For Poker Night... I can see Caitlin and Sam deciding to mess with the Dragonslayers. Like Caitlin coming up with some telepathy-disrupting talisman to keep Heckel and Jeckel from seeing each other's cards, which would be annoying to them. As for Sam... even if she doesn't spread nanites around to see the others' games, well, she is probably perfectly capable of remembering every little scratch and nick on the back of the cards, as well as tracking the cards through the shuffling process and calculating ridiculously complex probabilities. She's the card-counter from hell... in a game which is generally thought not to be vulnerable to card-counting.

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Iwasforger03 wrote: Za, za, dis is truth. Hmmmmmm Everheart is an admiral as well, so it's useful to still have her old identity, in some ways, even if she looks nothing like her old self.

Wasn't Sam at one point sending the Dragonslayers on missions? She knew Eric from his time in the Marines.

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JG wrote:
Ametros wrote:
...Outcast Corner versus The Dragonslayers. I feel like I've suggested it before, but it could do with being mentioned again, no?

Dear God this is buckets of bad idea

How about instead of pitting OC and DS head to head, you team them up? less buckets of a bad idea?

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Cryptic wrote:
JG wrote:
Ametros wrote:
...Outcast Corner versus The Dragonslayers. I feel like I've suggested it before, but it could do with being mentioned again, no?

Dear God this is buckets of bad idea
How about instead of pitting OC and DS head to head, you team them up? less buckets of a bad idea?

To make that team up fair you'd need the Grunts, Star League Junior (or the Superhero team) and Team Kimba fighting them.
The sheer brute force of OC, and the experience and insanity of The Dragonslayers combined is just ugly.

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Rather see the Dragonslayers and Wondercute. I believe it was mentioned somewhere that they have a similar "style" of combat.

I wonder how old Jeckel's kids are...

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JG wrote: Diamond isn't "seeing" the Astral.

She EXISTS in the astral. she can touch both sides at once.

Which means a wall in the astral will bar her passage even if there's a clear hallway in front of her. Astral projection is not as much an option for her.

Oh dear, does that mean she is stuck Sideways but is somehow able to move?

(Sorry been playing with Mage Character creation Started out on Werewolf and Trinity/Aberrant.)

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That's both very powerful and very annoying I bet, JG.

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Dpragan wrote:
JG wrote: Diamond isn't "seeing" the Astral.

She EXISTS in the astral. she can touch both sides at once.

Which means a wall in the astral will bar her passage even if there's a clear hallway in front of her. Astral projection is not as much an option for her.

Oh dear, does that mean she is stuck Sideways but is somehow able to move?

(Sorry been playing with Mage Character creation Started out on Werewolf and Trinity/Aberrant.)

Not sure that this is canon or not, but in one of the early stories about her, Diamond blew out some of the wards around Whateley when she first arrived on campus.

IIRC it was this that first drew the attention of FUBAR and the Dream Team to her, and led to them binding her, so as to reduce the amount of damage that she would do accidentally, as well as making it more difficult for astral entities to hassle her.

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Domoviye wrote:
Cryptic wrote:
JG wrote:
Ametros wrote:
...Outcast Corner versus The Dragonslayers. I feel like I've suggested it before, but it could do with being mentioned again, no?

Dear God this is buckets of bad idea
How about instead of pitting OC and DS head to head, you team them up? less buckets of a bad idea?
To make that team up fair you'd need the Grunts, Star League Junior (or the Superhero team) and Team Kimba fighting them.
The sheer brute force of OC, and the experience and insanity of The Dragonslayers combined is just ugly.

Nah, they're up against Teri who's loaded up on sugar.

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7 years 10 months ago #82 by Iwasforger03

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Cryptic wrote:
Domoviye wrote:
Cryptic wrote:
JG wrote:
Ametros wrote:
...Outcast Corner versus The Dragonslayers. I feel like I've suggested it before, but it could do with being mentioned again, no?

Dear God this is buckets of bad idea
How about instead of pitting OC and DS head to head, you team them up? less buckets of a bad idea?
To make that team up fair you'd need the Grunts, Star League Junior (or the Superhero team) and Team Kimba fighting them.
The sheer brute force of OC, and the experience and insanity of The Dragonslayers combined is just ugly.
Nah, they're up against Teri who's loaded up on sugar.

Are you trying to start WWIII? It sounds like you are. I'm prety sure you are. WWIII is not something we want. Stop, bad, bad!

That, or you just want to end the world. Armageddon and all that. I would rather you didn't.

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this is an intervention. We care about you. We really, really do. It's just - your addiction to nesting quotes to extreme levels is ... disheartening. Even heartbreaking. we KNOW you can kick this habit, and we're here to help you! We support you. We know you can do it!

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But if we keep nesting quotes, will it change from a rich dark honey color to a new, unseen color that human eyes cannot comprehend?

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Katssun wrote: Will we see what the Sidhe see?

She sells what the Sidhe sees in the sea shells by the sea shore?

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no forum paradoxes in my threads.

Kristin warned me once already.

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So, Bender and Nalley aren't allowed in your threads at the same time, to avoid a pair o' docs?

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I thought "Pair o' Docks" was a very small Australian seaport ...

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elrodw wrote: I thought "Pair o' Docks" was a very small Australian seaport ...

We have big ones?

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Not even most ingenious paradoxes?

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Arcanist Lupus wrote: Not even most ingenious paradoxes?

At least you could have found an Australian production

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What have ye to say about Chapter 2 then?

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It was great! Jericho's school welcome was hilarious. Ah, those poor, innocent freshthings who don't know what's in store for them. I'm still trying to figure out how he concealed his clothing though.

It's good to see Sandra getting more comfortable with singing. I hope that she and Sapphire have a chance to have a heart to heart, though.

Watching Imp and ~~Razorback~~ Dino was great fun. Although I would think that the school would supply warnings to the teachers of ragers with known triggers. On the other hand, most teachers are unlikely to try and prank their students with an airhorn. And I wouldn't entirely put it past Imp to have received such materials and ignored them.

Buster the bully butt-monkey is having another rough year. What, is he going to go after Alyss next?

It took me a bit to figure out why Aquerna would be startled at seeing Heckle and Jeckle. But she's met them before. It will be fun to see the reactions of the other hooligans. Especially Thrasher.

Huh. I wonder if the reason Caitlyn's former manhood enters the rumor mill is because little miss Mahren openly considers Caitlyn her big sister? I'll bet it helps a certain set of new security guards put two and two together at least.

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Best new quote of the year right here.

“Jericho you fucker!”

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Agreed on Miranda being part of the reason the Dragonslayers figure out Caitlin.

Also I so expect Buster to be a nervous wreck by the end of this semester. All his bully targets can suddenly fight back, and all of them win. He lives in constant terror and fear until Aquerna and the Squirrels adopt him and teach him the way of the squirrel and he becomes the underdog's #1 protector in a moving story of redemption without romance for once (cause she is just not interested). Also Buster realizing just how FAST Anna can talk, and having trouble keeping up.

Joe... Razorback checking out Jadis was one of the most hilarious parts of this entire story for me, genuinely and truly. Thank you. I dunno, it just amused me and touched my soul.

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I'm just waiting for Miranda to properly loose that infamous temper she seems to have inherited and seriously smack one of the bullies around.

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Yolandria wrote: Best new quote of the year right here.
“Jericho you fucker!”

I agree, but I liked this one even more:

“Razorback used to be a girl?” Jade blinked. “I would never have guessed.”
-I got better. Try not to hold it against me.- Jack signed and his vodor deadpanned his comment for him. -I know that all of you must be jealous of my sheer awesomeness, but I ask that you try and contain your jealousy.-

I said it in the comments to the news posting, but this chapter and Alyss in Wondercute Land 2 are really great companion pieces. They build on each other, and fill gaps from the two perspectives in ways that work especially well when read back to back.

Like the Sapphire/Diamondback situation. Both their respective groups of friends are seeing that something is up, and Diamond is especially weirded out by the intense jealousy she's throwing around, Deimos confirming it too. Which makes things very, very weird, and emphasizes how hard it will be when the two girls finally start talking to each other. Diamond and Dimes (and Phobos) both had pretty serious issues accepting themselves, and while Sapphire does too, the Outcast pair are the empaths. The feelings Sapphire is throwing off is only going to freak out Sandra more, since she already has major issues with naga-pervs. I'm really curious where this goes from the differing Outcast and R&R perspectives.

I'm guessing Diamond is going to need to continue getting more comfortable with herself before she's willing to talk it out with Sapphire. Her progress is still slow, but improving.

Janine's guilt pairs nicely with Sapphire as well, considering the description of Home, MT in Alyss in Wundercute Land 2. Maybe she's the bridge that can use that guilt and loneliness she's felt to mediate between Diamond and Sapphire...(Ahhhh, gem names overload!) . Loved the Thorn scene too.

It felt a bit like Carson violated the Outcast's trust with Fury, though she is right, they need a way to practice and let her normalize. It still feels very slimy that Carson, HPARC and ARC are using that trust to conduct tons of Class-X research by literally spying on them.

Which girl wanted to adopt Grabby as a big sister?

I'm enjoying that we're seeing the healing process start with Caitlin that we see fulfilled by the Gen 2 timeline. Mother hens all start as chicks, after all.

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Carson only authorized enough to get a filter for Fury so she wouldn't trip panic sensors. She figures Fury will agree to get tested at Doyle sooner or later.

Unfortunately a buncha eggheads faced with a very rare and poorly understood power would like to know more.

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On the research bit, remember that is par for the course with Whateley's power testing, and that research may save lives, possibly the lives of the OC.

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I might have been vastly overestimating Toni after reading the previous part. Good to see everybody finally get it out there, even if Caitlin had to be cleverly blunt and get them all to fess up.

Really nice to see Kodiak delivering, and the Outcasts being accepted among the school elite - to a degree, at least.

As for the rest, well... Imp and Razorback make quite the pair, even if Imp would have likely earned herself a black mark with that airhorn. Buster has to have some of the worst luck short of encountering Jade and/or Ribbon. Thorn's a good sort, and good to see him again.

Looking forward to when something is shown regarding the Dragonslayers and young Mahren, plus likely Eldritch. On the unlikely case they're not already twigging to it, I feel Prison Bitch would share that tidbit with them - unless it's being saved for a time to mess with the others.

Carry on JG, and it would be a pleasure to see some of those proposed collaborations (I might be biased in wanting to see Imp and Razorback have more fun together).

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And perhaps the most important thing we learned from this tale?

The world seemed to ripple, and Janine found herself sitting in Diamondback’s lap as the two Outcasts fell apart, wrapped in the coils with her blood-sister. She was much calmer than she had been when they arrived.

Diamondback has a lap.

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Valentine wrote: And perhaps the most important thing we learned from this tale?

The world seemed to ripple, and Janine found herself sitting in Diamondback’s lap as the two Outcasts fell apart, wrapped in the coils with her blood-sister. She was much calmer than she had been when they arrived.

Diamondback has a lap.

You are right! Diamondback DOES have a lap, it's official! Welp, I can't wait to see how that relationship develops!

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I'm still reading it, but the comment about a dinosaur playing rock music reminded me of the title screen to Chuck Rock (and yes, I had the Arc version - the link should take you straight to the title screen, the preceding 1½ minutes covers the intro, setting the scene. The developers later went on to create a game series featuring an aristocratic female archaeologist)...

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Siblings & Savages (Chapter2) wrote: “Hannah has narcolepsy something fierce. Only time she really fully wakes up is in the water.” Sandra shook her head. “I’ve been swimming with her before, she’s faster than anyone except Sylene in the water, and she’s alert the whole time. Get her on land and she starts conking out.”

“She breathes underwater?”

Janine nodded. “Yup, she’s hunky-dory in the pool, even with the chlorine. Doesn’t even phase her.”

Well then. I'm betting that her lethargy on land is due to breathing air less efficiently than water. If she's lucky, she'll be able to compensate by just breathing more oxygen rich air (e.g. via an off-the-shelf tank-fed oxygen mask), or even by simply breathing faster. If she's unlucky, she might need one of those water-breather systems. That wouldn't be hard to do at Whateley, but being able to get by on enriched oxygen would be a lot more convenient if anything goes wrong while away from Whateley.

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Kettlekorn wrote:
Siblings & Savages (Chapter2) wrote: “Hannah has narcolepsy something fierce. Only time she really fully wakes up is in the water.” Sandra shook her head. “I’ve been swimming with her before, she’s faster than anyone except Sylene in the water, and she’s alert the whole time. Get her on land and she starts conking out.”

“She breathes underwater?”

Janine nodded. “Yup, she’s hunky-dory in the pool, even with the chlorine. Doesn’t even phase her.”
Well then. I'm betting that her lethargy on land is due to breathing air less efficiently than water. If she's lucky, she'll be able to compensate by just breathing more oxygen rich air (e.g. via an off-the-shelf tank-fed oxygen mask), or even by simply breathing faster. If she's unlucky, she might need one of those water-breather systems. That wouldn't be hard to do at Whateley, but being able to get by on enriched oxygen would be a lot more convenient if anything goes wrong while away from Whateley.

There's a Thornie that uses a water mask to breathe.

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I wonder when somebody will think to try that with Hanna?

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This is something I've been wondering for a long while, especially with Razorback's reluctance to take Costume Design, but what exactly does Mrs. Ryan think of Jericho? Considering her past as Lady Hydra, I want to think that she gives his functionally toxic wardrobe a tacit nod of wry approval, followed by all the blind ignorance it so rightfully deserves.

I also have a sneaking suspicion that she's his de facto faculty sponsor and/or supplier, a fact each of them is eager to conceal from the norms, with the possible exception of Jade.

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Schismatism wrote: This is something I've been wondering for a long while, especially with Razorback's reluctance to take Costume Design, but what exactly does Mrs. Ryan think of Jericho? Considering her past as Lady Hydra, I want to think that she gives his functionally toxic wardrobe a tacit nod of wry approval, followed by all the blind ignorance it so rightfully deserves.

I also have a sneaking suspicion that she's his de facto faculty sponsor and/or supplier, a fact each of them is eager to conceal from the norms, with the possible exception of Jade.

You qualify Jade as normal?

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In comparison to the Outcasts? You bet your sweet bippy I do.

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Schismatism wrote: In comparison to the Outcasts? You bet your sweet bippy I do.

If you only consider the outer package, because looks are everything.

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Pft, the Outcasts as a whole are, for reasons not entirely their own fault, one of the most messed up set of non-normal people I've ever had the distinct pleasure of reading about. The only one of them mostly at fault for himself is Jericho. That doesn't change the fact they are very non-normal if we judge normal by comparison to the rest of the planet.

Most of Jade is an act, and it's a very good act. She still ends up seemingly slightly more normal than the combined Outcasts.

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Valentine wrote: And perhaps the most important thing we learned from this tale?

The world seemed to ripple, and Janine found herself sitting in Diamondback’s lap as the two Outcasts fell apart, wrapped in the coils with her blood-sister. She was much calmer than she had been when they arrived.

Diamondback has a lap.

And also a hell of an ass if I remember an earlier story right.

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It's not age when kids manifest that makes them more powerful, it's size. All these kids are small and they are very powerful.

Actually somewhere (maybe Ayla [Phase]) I recall it being said that the younger a person is when they manifest the more powerful they are, except perhaps when they have an age regen event.

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Cryptic wrote:
Valentine wrote: And perhaps the most important thing we learned from this tale?

The world seemed to ripple, and Janine found herself sitting in Diamondback’s lap as the two Outcasts fell apart, wrapped in the coils with her blood-sister. She was much calmer than she had been when they arrived.

Diamondback has a lap.
And also a hell of an ass if I remember an earlier story right.

Amen to that.

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7 years 10 months ago #116 by Arcanist Lupus

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If Diamondback starts singing more (especially songs like those were), I'd imagine that she'll soon start getting more suitors than just the creepy snake fetishists.

Iwasforger03 wrote: Pft, the Outcasts as a whole are, for reasons not entirely their own fault, one of the most messed up set of non-normal people I've ever had the distinct pleasure of reading about. The only one of them mostly at fault for himself is Jericho. That doesn't change the fact they are very non-normal if we judge normal by comparison to the rest of the planet.

Most of Jade is an act, and it's a very good act. She still ends up seemingly slightly more normal than the combined Outcasts.

Are we talking about the same Jade here? The one who voluntarily gave her soul to the Star Stalker, happily slaughtered an entire Syndicate base, carved "I attack little girls" in burn scars on a werewolf's chest, and regularly splits herself into half a dozen different parts?

And that's not counting the less crazy stuff, like dating Thuban as two different versions of herself, approaching an evil witch for help with giving her body to someone else, and hacking off her own genitals.

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Arcanist Lupus wrote: Are we talking about the same Jade here? The one who voluntarily gave her soul to the Star Stalker, happily slaughtered an entire Syndicate base, carved "I attack little girls" in burn scars on a werewolf's chest, and regularly splits herself into half a dozen different parts?

And that's not counting the less crazy stuff, like dating Thuban as two different versions of herself, approaching an evil witch for help with giving her body to someone else, and hacking off her own genitals.

Look, most of this is nowhere near as bad as it sounds, I mean, she didn't give her soul to Starstalker! She gave herself body and soul to her bestest friend ever in the entire world! And wouldn't we all do that?

And that carving thing? There were circumstances! I mean, he tried to kill her! It was three on one and they were going to eat her! She needed to use railway spikes and hammer him into a tree just to get him to stop! The carving was just adrenaline and nerves!

And it's not 'dating Thurban as two different versions of herself! She's his girlfriend! She wants to give him the best of herself! And she considers Jinn to be that!

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Uh, Phoenix? You might want to call and have the utility lines marked before you dig yourself any deeper, hoss...

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It's not like Jade goes around breastfeeding demons or anything like that.

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Oh yeah, I almost forgot about that. How'd we end up discussing Jade in this? Because the changelings in Poe got invited to Outcast Corner to visit and it has been noticed that the smallest Kimba is a wee bit on the far side of sane? :twisted:

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Damn you third-person omniscient narrator!

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Well, by 'norms', I mostly meant 'those who follow normative social rules', which Jade does ... barely. By that standard, Diamondback, Noms and Dimes are also norms. Jericho and Razorback, on the other hand... not so much. And Eldritch just doesn't give a crap.

By which I mean, of course, that Jade acts precisely as you might imagine a seemingly ten-year-old girl strung out on caffeine and a lust for life to act.

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Are you implying that Jericho and Razorback are anything less than examples of model citizenry?

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Oh, heavens no. I would never go so far as to imply that they're anything like a ball of chaos wrapped in adamantite twine with a heaping helping of WTF. It's obviously the rest of the world that's so terribly, terribly sideways.

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Schismatism wrote: By which I mean, of course, that Jade acts precisely as you might imagine a seemingly ten-year-old girl strung out on caffeine and a lust for life to act.

Aside from breastfeeding a demon, I've got four words: "HEADS UP YOUR QUEENLINESS!”

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I would greatly like to know what else you would expect a ten-year-old girl in a life-or-death situation to do with a clustered belt of grenades and a set of rocket launchers.

The breastfeeding thing I'm somewhat less sanguine about.

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I'm sure some of those kids were either at or former whateley grads.

Awesome new info on the courts! No wonder JG was so free with Info.

Nikki dealing with repercussions of stuff still, and also with classes not making sense cause she doesn't need the same restrictions other people do. Which is useful but also makes learning difficult.

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I liked all of the story, but the ending was very nice.
Kicking out a son who is 18 years old after a massive argument is one thing, but doing it to a little kid, Mahren's father is lucky he wasn't gutted. Can't wait for Mama bear to get to Whateley.

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Unfortunately the subjects of the sim run scenario...

The original parties involved...

did not survive their betrayal.

Nor did the cleaner team when the MCO came to pick up the pieces.

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In the words of Monica, Evil Incarnate may reunite with Apocalyptic Evil, with Chibi Evil joining the fun....

Also that sim bout was wonderful.

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Trying to remember in which story exactly it was that Nikki was outed.

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Even though it isn't, the three team pile-up (+Imp) makes me think of a Xanatos pile-up for some oddball reason.

Oh dear Mamma's Coming! And likely a third sister...I wonder what she will end up teaching, for some reason I think of Carson and her getting along once she gets over her Diedrick's/Rager Episode.....Oh hell!!! Diedrick's might just be a Rager situation on someone with Devisor/Gadgeteer/sometimes Mage power-sets!

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Rose Bunny wrote: Trying to remember in which story exactly it was that Nikki was outed.

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JG wrote: Don't you try to oppress my dyslexia.

Add it to your spell checker, and let your text editor do the work for you!

as to the story:

Lethal Force Required. Woof. That's slightly terrifying.
Is there a difference between "lethal force", and "deadly force" (such as the DFAs the MCO uses), or are they just synonyms like in non-technical English?

I really like how Bardue tailored each briefing to play to that particular team's strengths. Outcast Corner gets a mission protecting a group of shunned children. The Wild Pack get a black and white heroic mission. Wondercute gets a dangerous but low urgency quest.

He was worried, as Miranda wasn’t much younger than he had been when he’d erupted in the psychic event that caged him in a swimming pool in the sub-basement of the cottage for the rest of his life.

I was under the impression that Louis was already a teacher at Whateley when he became all squiddly. Am I misremembering?

When Nikki summoned the two screaming brownies, I'll admit that I at first thought that you were talking about the desert. I find it interesting that Sandra didn't comment on Leanne's appearance. Perhaps she doesn't look like Nikki anymore (or at least is well disguised by a spell or two)? I smell trouble there, if Nikki keeps treating Leanne like a servant. It doesn't pay to piss off the little folk.

If you seek her harm, you will not live to see the Dawn.

Sunrise, or is that a metaphor referring to a specific event?

The explanation of magic ritual as trigger locks reminds me a bit of the Dresden Files system, where the trigger words are meant as focuses, and as insulation so that you don't burn a hole through your brain when casting fire.

If Razorback were oath-tied like Nikki or Noms, how would that work? Does it only apply to spoken/written language, or can he be bound by his sign language as well? I assume so, but it feels weird.

Oooh, Mama Mahren is coming to Whateley! This coming Parent's Day is going to be fun! :twisted:

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Domoviye wrote: I liked all of the story, but the ending was very nice.
Kicking out a son who is 18 years old after a massive argument is one thing, but doing it to a little kid, Mahren's father is lucky he wasn't gutted. Can't wait for Mama bear to get to Whateley.

There's only one thing more terrifying than a Mama bear that has her dander up. It's when the Mama bear has been denied her opportunity to go raging in the first place. Daddy Mahern had best find a deep hole and pull it in behind himself. Otherwise Mama may well use him for fiddle strings!

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I resemble that remark. As a dyslectic I Identify greatly!

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Daddy Mahren may or may not have officially fallen down the stairs according to the State Trooper Report.

Several times.

Possibly with assistance.

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Domoviye wrote: I liked all of the story, but the ending was very nice.
Kicking out a son who is 18 years old after a massive argument is one thing, but doing it to a little kid, Mahren's father is lucky he wasn't gutted. Can't wait for Mama bear to get to Whateley.

Seventeen, actually.

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Great magic lesson! Also, one that conveniently allows for an occasional inconsistency here and there in the pages and pages and pages and pages of writing, hmm?

But seriously, loved the perfectly integrated info-dump on magic, how Cait views it, why Nikki gets so crazy interested in Kayda's magic, and how scary a Wiz-7 really can be.

I also love the contrast of Angry Overly-Protective Nurturing Big Sister Cait, and the Cait who doesn't think she manage it with her own little sister despite acting that way with everyone else. She just doesn't get it that she, in the course of a couple days, helped Zenith, Nikki, Aquerna (without realizing it), and Miranda (again, not realizing it).

The slow development of Cait into the Angry Mama Bear of Gen 2 is rather endearing.

Also nice to see the closure of Nikki, "I almost made myself enemy of all mankind on accident," and the start of Nikki "I can use my stunningly good looks and unparalleled skill with magic for good of many!" Though, the shrieking brownies might be an indicator that she has a way to go in each direction.

Dragonslayer Business and Comedy Hour aside, the scene with Mrs. Horton and Murphy was also a blast. Murphy's brashness and obnoxiousness hiding her secret inner goodie-two-shoes, and I'd forgotten that part of the reason she was in Whitman, and roomed with Grabby, was to get her over her sheltered-Alaskan GSD phobia, and now that she's in the LGBT dorm, she can get over that discomfort too.

Really, I love how Mrs. Horton is getting a ton of development in the more recent stories. She's such a big feature of Poe that she needed a bit, and her POV scenes within other stories add so much more to her. Her occasional fumbles with Lanie and now with Noms add a lot of humanity to her. The fact that she's helping to manipulate Murphy's prejudices away, gently tolerating her defiant attitude, and most importantly, knowing to leave Noms alone now that she's started to examine the pattern of why Noms is avoiding her shows her continuing wisdom.

As a final note, are Aegis and Christina going to join Bravo, Pucelle and Pals and form an Future Imprisoned for Harassment and Assault club because they will never be allowed in the Capes?

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Aegis is an idiot cape wannabe, his final fate has to do with if he can learn to look before leaping, he has good intentions, and from other appearances good protective instincts, he's just ignorant. The clay is good, if they can mold it. He's stubborn with the lesson of look before leaping, sure, but this is what his first week at Whateley? Add to that even if he isn't an exemplar with Hercules Syndrome, he's still a teenage male between the ages of 13-15, exposed to media that forms preconceived notions about "good" and "evil", how heroes are supposed to behave, and to an extent even Marvel's X-men says what the villains look like, while they are better at it than most media, many of Magneto's goons would qualify as having GSD in the Whateley Universe, sure they explain it mostly by the mutation and how society treats them leading or even forcing them to Magneto, and there are notable counter examples who call X-mansion home, but even so.

One major thing in his favor, every time we have seen Aegis involved in something, he hasn't 'instigated' it, sure he got involved in something that was nothing and made it a problem, but he hasn't started anything beyond misinterpreting the situation, that puts him a step ahead of Bravo and others, in fact while we see him give Ribbon and Knockoff the stink eye, and generally show disapproval, he hasn't started anything, and only seems to get involved with 'in progress' situations, so there is hope for him.

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Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Lethal Force Required. Woof. That's slightly terrifying.
Is there a difference between "lethal force", and "deadly force" (such as the DFAs the MCO uses), or are they just synonyms like in non-technical English?

Deadly force: Death is a likely possibility, ie bullet wound center mass, survivable with medical attention provided no vital organs are destroyed.
Lethal force: Death is a certainty, ie bullet hole in the head, even if you are one of the freak examples of people who 'survive', you still experience severe brain damage, unlike the guy who got lucky in a particle accelerator accident and mainly just ended up with a horridly deformed face.

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Arcanist Lupus wrote:
The explanation of magic ritual as trigger locks reminds me a bit of the Dresden Files system, where the trigger words are meant as focuses, and as insulation so that you don't burn a hole through your brain when casting fire.

If Razorback were oath-tied like Nikki or Noms, how would that work? Does it only apply to spoken/written language, or can he be bound by his sign language as well? I assume so, but it feels weird.

It would have to be based around the intention that was communicated.

So if Razorback was able to use magic, then his sign language would do, but apart from him being a hallow for a pack-stalker, most of his powers come from the biology that his new form has given him.

Unless he reaches the point where he could have enough essence to spark his well.

Also, it just struck me, would the target aimed at by Hekate's Master be the World Tree sapling?

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The Pack Stalkers are a walking promise that something's gonna die. They don't do oaths, per se. They can't be bound like a Sidhe any more than an attack dog can.

Not every supernatural critters have the same drawbacks.

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What about a mute Sidhe, then?

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Do you think intent requires spoken voice?

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Kristin Darken wrote: Do you think intent requires spoken voice?

I wasn't gonna go there...

But you went there...

And since you went there...
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Oh no she didn't!

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7 years 9 months ago #153 by null0trooper

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Kristin Darken wrote: Do you think intent requires spoken voice?

It surely helps to have intent expressed in language, or at least intelligible symbology. Nonetheless, there's no rule that says intent cannot be expressed in Malbolge . Whether that can be accomplished prior to the heat death of the Universe is a relatively separate matter.

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7 years 9 months ago #154 by Schol-R-LEA

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mhalpern wrote: unlike the guy who got lucky in a particle accelerator accident and mainly just ended up with a horridly deformed face.

At first I assumed you were making a joke about Dr Manhattan, but I guess not. Mind you, if you are referring to Anotoli Bugorski , it is a lot weirder than that; his face mostly looks normal now, despite the initial horrible swelling and burns, but the left side of his face is paralyzed - and also seems to have mostly stopped aging. It's bizarre, but not something most people would immediately find grotesque.

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7 years 9 months ago #155 by mhalpern

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Schol-R-LEA wrote:
mhalpern wrote: unlike the guy who got lucky in a particle accelerator accident and mainly just ended up with a horridly deformed face.

At first I assumed you were making a joke about Dr Manhattan, but I guess not. Mind you, if you are referring to Anotoli Bugorski , it is a lot weirder than that; his face mostly looks normal now, despite the initial horrible swelling and burns, but the left side of his face is paralyzed - and also seems to have mostly stopped aging. It's bizarre, but not something most people would immediately find grotesque.

Yup that's the guy I was talking about. I saw a picture once of him shortly after the accident, he made Wade Wilson look normal by comparison.

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7 years 9 months ago #156 by Valentine

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null0trooper wrote:
Kristin Darken wrote: Do you think intent requires spoken voice?

It surely helps to have intent expressed in language, or at least intelligible symbology. Nonetheless, there's no rule that says intent cannot be expressed in Malbolge . Whether that can be accomplished prior to the heat death of the Universe is a relatively separate matter.

If I pull out a gun and shoot you, that would show intent without spoken language.

How about if I just flip you off?

Think evil thoughts about you?

Glare menacingly?

Give you a hug?

There are lots of ways of showing intent without verbalization. For someone like Nikki, if she puts her magic behind her nonverbal intent, something just might happen.

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7 years 9 months ago #157 by JG

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valentine is absolutely correct.

7 years 9 months ago #158 by Dpragan

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Nikki with intent to hug...............*blinks*...And I'm back!

7 years 9 months ago #159 by Phoenix Spiritus

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Dpragan wrote: Nikki with intent to hug...............*blinks*...And I'm back!

I fear your imagination is insufficiently developed. Should take longer, try again.

7 years 9 months ago #160 by Rose Bunny

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It was Miss Reilly in the conservatory with the hug

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7 years 9 months ago #161 by Dreamer

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Dpragan wrote: Nikki with intent to hug...............*blinks*...And I'm back!

I can see it now. Nikki goes to hug a guy, thinking he is just like a sister to her, not knowing she is putting intent behind her thoughts, and *poof*, next moment she is holding a very confused fraternal or identical twin sister in her arms.

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7 years 9 months ago #162 by Iwasforger03

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Dreamer wrote:
Dpragan wrote: Nikki with intent to hug...............*blinks*...And I'm back!
I can see it now. Nikki goes to hug a guy, thinking he is just like a sister to her, not knowing she is putting intent behind her thoughts, and *poof*, next moment she is holding a very confused fraternal or identical twin sister in her arms.

It gets worse. They were an Exemplar and everybody wants to know how Nicki did it without turning them or herself into some kind of monster. And somehow she actually did change their BIT, so they can't change back.

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7 years 9 months ago #163 by Dpragan

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Phoenix Spiritus wrote:
Dpragan wrote: Nikki with intent to hug...............*blinks*...And I'm back!

I fear your imagination is insufficiently developed. Should take longer, try again.

It was condense for readability, no one wants to see War and Peace's worth of "......"

7 years 4 months ago #164 by Iwasforger03

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JG I don't know how ALL of us missed it, but The reintroduction of Deimos, Diamondback, and Anomaly says "Phobos" instead of Deimos. Part 1, just as they step out of the portal onto campus.

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7 years 4 months ago - 7 years 4 months ago #165 by DanZilla

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Iwasforger03 wrote: JG I don't know how ALL of us missed it, but The reintroduction of Deimos, Diamondback, and Anomaly says "Phobos" instead of Deimos. Part 1, just as they step out of the portal onto campus.

Arrgghh.... all fixed now.

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6 years 2 weeks ago - 6 years 2 weeks ago #166 by Malady

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From Part 1...

whateleyacademy.net/index.php/original-t...772-siblings-savages

I wonder who's "TalkingGuns", which, might actually be spelt "Talking Guns", as we call them in the Wiki?

I wanna say it's Thrasher's mom, 'cause apparently she scares Sabertooths... And he's the most likely person to have met Pearson, given his father's encounter with the Dragonslayers...

But we know nothing else about Talking Guns, so whatever...

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6 years 2 weeks ago #167 by JG

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TalkingGuns is an M-SOC Marine with a son who goes to whateley. Now whether that will have anything to do with thrasher is no decision of mine, as the bad seed sk8r belongs to bek, if I recall.

I havent named the student at whateley, or even if that student had graduated

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