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Question Laura and the Village

7 years 9 months ago #1 by Yolandria
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  • More 2nd Gen goodness! Post comments below!

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    7 years 9 months ago #2 by E. E. Nalley
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  • Where am I?!
    In… The village…
    What you want?
    We want… Information…
    Whose side are you on?
    That would be telling… We want… Information… Information…! INFORMATION!
    YOU WON'T GET IT!

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    7 years 9 months ago #3 by Esar
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  • A story about a blue girl and a village ? I knew she was a smurf !
    7 years 9 months ago - 7 years 9 months ago #4 by Iwasforger03
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  • Financier could easily be Gen 2 Ayla Goodkind. Change the codename (it would sure as hell fit), etc. Doesn't accentuate the female appearance, but acknowledges it...

    So Laura was the work of Frau Doctor it seems (did I use that right?)

    This is going to be an emotional rollercoaster.

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    7 years 9 months ago #5 by Astrodragon
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  • Laura is not a number, she is a free smurf!
    :evil:

    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
    7 years 9 months ago #6 by Dreamer
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    Below is a stream of conscious commentary I type up as I read the story. There will details from the story included in it. If you have not read the story yet and don't wish to have details of it spoiled, read no further.


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  • Woah. Such many reveals! ... Why didn't that plan work on Laura like it was supposed to? Or did it work fine, and they just didn't expect her to check?

    ... Fullerton has Memory Mods associated with it... We have an Amnesiac. Connecting...

    Omg. I'm so out of it! Amnesiac is Laura's mom, who was a supervil, Spinel, as the Vanguard and other data shows?? And the woman who she thinks is her mom, actually isn't, 'cause she got memory modded post-Fullerton? ... Do those who were post-Fullerton even know their status??

    Woah. Nightmares... Sad! ... Hints at Gen2 Biotech allowing homosexual reproduction and kids from infertiles, 'cause cells are cells, and sufficient biotech can change one type into others...

    Could Laura get enough Daniel Moate info to divine Hikaru's past??
    7 years 9 months ago - 7 years 9 months ago #8 by E. E. Nalley
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  • Dreamer wrote:

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    I'm afraid this is my fault. I was in the middle of writing something else, when Elrod reminded me he needed this scene and so I banged it out in 5 minutes and had a brain fart. And since it was put in right before being published yesterday it slips through editing. So Mea Culpa on that one. It has been fixed.

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    I will say as far as the nicknaming goes, Jennifer's last name is Kelly, which is an Irish surname. Jennifer calls Sarah her Nubian Princess because she is African-American with classic features, so both nicknames are playing on their family origins you might say.

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  • Hikaru's dimensional fold closet...:cheer:

    Laura is really raking in the cash. Perfect for components for weapons! Will Tia be able to afford Laura's new competitive housekeeper-babysitter rates? Someone might have to start modelling~

    At least Hikaru has an entire country (and blue and green clothing) to pay for it.

    Malady wrote: Woah. Such many reveals! ... Why didn't that plan work on Laura like it was supposed to? Or did it work fine, and they just didn't expect her to check?

    Well, Laura is blue. She would know what a bruise looks like on her skin where a normal student/ninja would assume that everything went perfect.

    Omg. I'm so out of it! Amnesiac is Laura's mom, who was a supervil, Spinel, as the Vanguard and other data shows?? And the woman who she thinks is her mom, actually isn't, 'cause she got memory modded post-Fullerton? ... Do those who were post-Fullerton even know their status??

    "Spinel being Laura's mom" is a scam to have the Squirrels keep an eye on Laura while the Vanguard Ev Rocks student group is unable to maintain surveillance due to their smaller numbers. Laura's mom is her own mother, it just looks like Laura's mutation was forced, which assuming she stays healthy, isn't really a problem for her, to be honest. Aside from being blue.

    "Jennifer" is someone Kayda knows, but is registered as a villain. I mean, it could be Tansy, but I don't feel like Tansy is stupid enough to get caught and end up with a villain MID. I assumed that Tansy is too busy working for Amelia Hartford to keep things in order in Wallachia while her hubby is missing.
    7 years 9 months ago #10 by Malady
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  • And Hikaru just brushes off the closet like it's no big deal. 'Cause of the mem loss? Or are they relatively cheap in Japan??? Or its a thing any rich girl has?

    ... I thought the watcher was Kayda, 'cause she seems like the kind of person to have supernatural hints and stuff? But it's never explicitly said? ... What are the hints?
    7 years 9 months ago #11 by Iwasforger03
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  • Either or both women might have been involved in Fullerton... speaking of which

    More info! Not everyone died! Survivors left with visions and ghosts!

    What on earth?

    Psychic mutant run out of control?

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    7 years 9 months ago - 7 years 9 months ago #12 by Katssun
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  • Malady wrote: ... I thought the watcher was Kayda, 'cause she seems like the kind of person to have supernatural hints and stuff? But it's never explicitly said? ... What are the hints?

    Brown skin, dark hair, lives in New York (confirmed by Tractor when Laura asked about the photo in his office), blond lover, and redhead friend. Then it's confirmed when she mentioned dreamwalking.
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    7 years 9 months ago #13 by Valentine
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  • Malady wrote: And Hikaru just brushes off the closet like it's no big deal. 'Cause of the mem loss? Or are they relatively cheap in Japan??? Or its a thing any rich girl has?

    ... I thought the watcher was Kayda, 'cause she seems like the kind of person to have supernatural hints and stuff? But it's never explicitly said? ... What are the hints?


    Isn't she a member of the Japanese Imperial House? A Mobius closet wouldn't be too much to expect.

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  • Lanie has got to be the only mother in the world who doesn't get upset that the babysitter is using a psychic dampening field (or any other kind of brainwave inhibitor) on her children.

    Vanessa and Laura's relationship is endearing and kind of weird at the same time. She's helping the Barton's experience something that they had put off for too long until it was too late, but Laura already has a loving mom, so maybe she's getting more out of the Jake side of this equation, with getting a surrogate father figure. I mean, she's totally latched onto him to the point that everyone notices. Still, what she's providing to Vanessa is invaluable.

    But I'm really confused by Bailey's situation. We definitely need some more information there.

    When does the mean teasing about Laura being a total suck-up going to start? After Brita starts making nasty remarks meant to be overheard in the cafeteria?
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  • Katssun wrote: Lanie has got to be the only mother in the world who doesn't get upset that the babysitter is using a psychic dampening field (or any other kind of brainwave inhibitor) on her children.


    Normal For Whateley.

    I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.
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    7 years 9 months ago #16 by mittfh
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  • A lot of things that would seem odd to us would probably seem perfectly normal and ordinary to Whateley alumni. Added onto which, it's heavily implied there's more than the standard psychic link between the twins - it's not beyond the realms of possibility they each have an active metagene complex, but that would be one of the more boring theories :)

    Meanwhile, as for Hikaru's wardrobe (both the furniture and contents), don't forget she's a member of the Imperial Family, who's also avatar to a pretty important deity, so she is likely to get showered with gifts. OK, so most of them come from Kako, but nonetheless...

    Speaking of Hikaru, hopefully at some point in her four year stint at Whateley, knowledge of her former identity will be downgraded from what appears to be Top Secret - and she'll be clued in to the nature of Poe (while there is potentially the complicating factor of Kurenai, given the AI's mission [referred to as a VI here as Laura's unaware of Kurenai's true nature], it's likely she'd make a solemn oath on pain of deletion to uphold the secret).

    Then there's our enigmatic amnesiac gem courier, who we're still getting teased with nuggets of information and hints; with the added revelation she reminds Kayda of someone significant from the past, who she once felt a connection to. Puzzling. While it's possible she's been encountered before in G1, it's equally plausible she's someone we haven't met yet in G1 - or someone whom Kayda first encountered after graduating. Of course, the Canon Authors probably know exactly what's going on, but almost certainly won't reveal anything immediately useful to us outside the context of their tales...

    We've also got two more confirmed teachers: Vanessa in Mystic Arts (we already knew Jake taught history, of course, but I don't think we'd previously been told Vanessa taught), while Lainie couldn't bear to be parted from the workshop so now teaches down there (possibly with Carmen surrepticiously helping keep an eye on projects, so they don't mysteriously vanish at the hands of a light-fingered student) :D Oh, and perhaps unsurprisingly, they're friendly with a certain art teacher who never fails to make an impression on those she meets...

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  • Katssun wrote: Lanie has got to be the only mother in the world who doesn't get upset that the babysitter is using a psychic dampening field (or any other kind of brainwave inhibitor) on her children.


    Other than television? It's been used to pacify entire populations at a time.

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    7 years 9 months ago #18 by Anne
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  • I'm going to say that Financier is Ayla. The facts fit pretty closely. My guess for Jennifer Kelly is probably off the wall but I think she is Lanath. Again the facts that we know lead that way... And just where are her children? We know that Lanie has one, she's pregnant in gen 1... Given what we know of mutant biology, it's a wonder that she only has three!
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  • Anne wrote: I'm going to say that Financier is Ayla. The facts fit pretty closely. My guess for Jennifer Kelly is probably off the wall but I think she is Lanath. Again the facts that we know lead that way... And just where are her children? We know that Lanie has one, she's pregnant in gen 1... Given what we know of mutant biology, it's a wonder that she only has three!

    I concur the Financier is probably Ayla, with the coffee, and other clues OF COURSE I didn't see any of his common speech patterns (other than status based) in the Financier's dialog, but of course that means little, and the rest of Kimba may have teased that out of him.

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  • I think the brown haired girl is going to end up being Maggie, just for Elrod's sick mind's own amusement (luv ya El).

    No, not really. Still. I actually do agree, both our courier and our "I lost my spirit" lady are likely to be either new or someone very recently introduced.

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    7 years 9 months ago #21 by Sir Lee
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  • I think the similarities between Financier an Ayla are a red herring. I mean, Ayla Goodkind was already making the business pages in 2007. Using an alias is sorta superfluous.
    The only circumstance in which I could see Ayla being Financier would be if he deliberately built a second identity, probably with the help of some appearance-changing devises, in order to keep a presence in the... less-open... aspects of mutant business. Meaning, there is the well-known young tycoon Ayla Goodkind of AJK Inc, and there's this shady character named Financier, and very, very few people know they are one and the same.

    As for the jewel courier being Laneth... well, the only way I can imagine it happening is if Laneth was somehow split from Lainie. Which we were told that would kill both of them eventually. Perhaps someone cloned Loophole?

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    7 years 9 months ago #22 by Iwasforger03
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  • These are good points, but it would be interesting.

    And we are always looking for new signs of our favorites from Gen 1 surviving in Gen 2.

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  • Sir Lee wrote:
    As for the jewel courier being Laneth... well, the only way I can imagine it happening is if Laneth was somehow split from Lainie. Which we were told that would kill both of them eventually. Perhaps someone cloned Loophole?


    Maybe I was misreading the last bit about her (Lanath), but it seemed that she was given an ID by Mrs Carson. That she was acting as an independent person. I can't recall the story title but it seemed like the Coyote essentially split her off and gave her a body somehow..
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  • Of course we are. I'm rereading Road to Whateley... I just spotted Vox... Not that I didn't recall her, but it is nice to be reminded.
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  • Thank you Elrodw, I really liked the interactions between the Bartons, the Wyatts and Laura.

    I can't help thinking that I should have been able to make the connections between all the elements you have shown us in this story and those from previous stories but it seems my brain does not want to allow me to do that.

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  • Quite a lot of information here that can't be fitted into place just yet, but shows off more of the state of things, both in the wider community, and within Whateley.

    However, I (like a few others) can only say that this story seemed rather... Wicked.

    :evil:

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  • How about a clone of Lanie, and some sort of botched brain engram imprint thanks to Bel(notso)fatso.

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    7 years 9 months ago #28 by E. E. Nalley
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  • Anne wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote:
    As for the jewel courier being Laneth... well, the only way I can imagine it happening is if Laneth was somehow split from Lainie. Which we were told that would kill both of them eventually. Perhaps someone cloned Loophole?


    Maybe I was misreading the last bit about her (Lanath), but it seemed that she was given an ID by Mrs Carson. That she was acting as an independent person. I can't recall the story title but it seemed like the Coyote essentially split her off and gave her a body somehow..


    You're remembering events from 2 different stories. Coyote gave Laneth the body as a temporary measure in Kayda 10 There's no Place like Poe, but the wicked identity was created at Mrs. Carson's request by Ms. Hartford back in the mind blowing Whilst Any Speaks!

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  • I could have sworn at the end of Kadya 10 that Mrs Carson gave Lanath a school ID. Yes I know Wicked is Mrs Carson's creation in Whilst Any Speaks, and that probably made it easier for Lanath to be accessed by Lanie but it was Mrs Horton who summoned her and Coyote who gave her at least a temporary body that were certain conditions met she would keep. Or in other words she would become a living person in the here and now separate from Lanie...
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  • Does nobody else think that Financier is Tansy? Apparently nobody else thinks that Financier is Tansy. (or at least nobody has said so aloud)

    I don't know why, but this seems like the type of grey-hat role that Hartford is grooming her towards.

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  • mhalpern wrote:

    Anne wrote: I'm going to say that Financier is Ayla. The facts fit pretty closely. My guess for Jennifer Kelly is probably off the wall but I think she is Lanath. Again the facts that we know lead that way... And just where are her children? We know that Lanie has one, she's pregnant in gen 1... Given what we know of mutant biology, it's a wonder that she only has three!

    I concur the Financier is probably Ayla, with the coffee, and other clues OF COURSE I didn't see any of his common speech patterns (other than status based) in the Financier's dialog, but of course that means little, and the rest of Kimba may have teased that out of him.


    You have to bear in mind that I am not nearly as good with Ayla's speech patterns as Diane, the original writer. Same holds true for any of us writing any other Team Kimba members. So regardless of whether the Financier is Ayla, the speech patterns of Financier alone are not a legitimate clue. And there are clues aplenty strewn about throughout the story :evil:

    And perhaps it's Tansy? Interesting theory. Not Ayla or Ayla? I won't say.
    But we WILL be seeing more of the Financier as the plot thickens develops.

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  • Thanks Elrod, good diversion with the Tansy toss. Yeah, yeah, I might almost be willing to buy that. And with Tansy hinted at being either Bi, Pan, or a Lesbian who just was never allowed to realize it (I haven't caught up, so if it was clarified i'm not there yet)...

    Well, this is certainly developing in fun ways!

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  • While Financier could be Tansy, I think the clues lead more toward Ayla... Then again I'm prejudiced. I like team Kimba and find Phase to be fascinating. His angst and frustration with becoming more and more feminine in appearance along with his dedication to becoming male in all aspects is as strong and frightening as Jade's drive to become female.

    So unless Elrod is doing something besides throwing out a red herring (ya know that needs an emoticon) with the Tansy bit here, I'm sticking with my guesses until proven wrong by the next episode. Part of the issue of why no one is discussing Laura is that her story has so many old faces in new places and other plots that while they involve Laura they don't yet cause her much angst except the lost time and bruise bit.
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  • Anne wrote: Part of the issue of why no one is discussing Laura is that her story has so many old faces in new places and other plots that while they involve Laura they don't yet cause her much angst except the lost time and bruise bit.

    The Bartons aren't really "old faces" in my opinion. Almost all their character development has been within Gen 2. Laura's name is in the title, but this was really a story about the Bartons.
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  • Katssun wrote:

    Anne wrote: Part of the issue of why no one is discussing Laura is that her story has so many old faces in new places and other plots that while they involve Laura they don't yet cause her much angst except the lost time and bruise bit.

    The Bartons aren't really "old faces" in my opinion. Almost all their character development has been within Gen 2. Laura's name is in the title, but this was really a story about the Bartons.


    Do you think that there might be a REASON that I have Laura interacting so heavily with the Bartons and the Codys? Like some nefarious plot and scheme?

    I wouldn't do that, now, would I? Not to dear, sweet, innocent Laura ....

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  • elrodw wrote: Do you think that there might be a REASON that I have Laura interacting so heavily with the Bartons and the Codys? Like some nefarious plot and scheme?

    I wouldn't do that, now, would I? Not to dear, sweet, innocent Laura ....


    Everyone! Pray for Infant Immortality! PRAY! ... Or not... :P

    But seriously, I think it's more Laura being inspired into domestic tech and stuff, which is a rare field of Gadgeteering / Devising? ... And into power dampeners, like that psi dampener. ... Which may also relate to anti-Diedricks tech?
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  • elrodw wrote:
    Do you think that there might be a REASON that I have Laura interacting so heavily with the Bartons and the Codys? Like some nefarious plot and scheme?

    I wouldn't do that, now, would I? Not to dear, sweet, innocent Laura ....

    Laura's mom and sister get eaten by zombie bison, Tractor and Lanie fight over who gets to adopt her, trashing a portion of Schuster, and Laura decides that no matter who wins...she needs a raise?!?

    Edit: or like Malady said, it might be putting Laura on the track to continue developing nervous system medical devices, which she already has some limited experience with from her favorite weapon.
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  • I don't think that Financier is Ayla. I doubt that by Gen 2 Ayla is still using a codename. He seems to be very open in operating AJG Inc. as Ayla Goodkind. Plus Ayla would be blatantly out in public pushing mutants, financing mutant corporations, Gadgeteers, Devisors, etc.

    I ran through several people it could be, before I came up with who I think it is:
    Jade/Jinn/Jann was one option. Spending years working with and for Ayla, she would be in a great position to learn High Finance.
    Vox would be a choice too, but we've already seen her.
    Tansy works, as she already knows the Finance stuff.
    Diamondback, but I think the GSD would have been mentioned.
    Jadis, but she is now Frost.
    Bunny? Nah, she likes making stuff too much to spend her time being Warren Buffet.
    Reach was a thought, mostly just from the girl/boy with a pregnant S/O.

    But I finally came down to two, and eliminated one of them. My final choices.

    Zenith and Sahar, with Sahar winning. Between the two of them,they could easily dominate the financial markets, and Sahar is perfect for infiltrating an organization.

    So I think Sahar is "Financier."

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  • Regarding Hikaru's 'no big deal' (and it relates to why Hikaru doesn't really advertise Kurenai's status as an AI, except if she thinks you have a need to know, or you ask direct). Putting aside that Hikaru has always been somewhat well off, there is the Japanese tendency NOT to flaunt wealth, or underplay it, for one (Not quite true, admittedly, but the way Japanese flaunt 'status/wealth' is a bit different than oh, American values), there's the simple fact, Hikaru's actually a very... reserved person and tends to not really think about spending money to spend money. if she needs something, she'll get it, but she's not going to spend money to just spend it. Combined with a bit of 'not really aware' that not everyone is as 'well off' as she is, you get her mindset. And she wouldn't have brought the closet, it was a gift as a bribe. (Side note, a lot of her 'gifts' that she gets ala clothing, or stuff like that is more that she gets them to wear/be seen in/seen using, for avdert purposes as much as 'buying favor' with Hikaru's goddess. There's actually a subplot about that in detail.)
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  • Sahar as Financier? Actually that makes a lot of sense. She was going into the TLA game with the Cee It All gang, so she would have certain access. Ayla had been working with Zenith on getting established. Yeah especially with how that Zenith was barely through transitioning and maybe had issues that wouldn't show until pregnancy. Heh, we're off topic for this thread. So just why is Elrod having his character get all chummy with two former heros? And Lanie and Wyatt? What sort of torture does he have in mind for the girl who would by all appearances be happy as a domestic goddess, as long as her SO was another girl?
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  • MageOhki wrote: And she wouldn't have brought the closet, it was a gift as a bribe. (Side note, a lot of her 'gifts' that she gets ala clothing, or stuff like that is more that she gets them to wear/be seen in/seen using, for avdert purposes as much as 'buying favor' with Hikaru's goddess. There's actually a subplot about that in detail.)


    So what you're saying... Is that if one were to give an honest gift to Hikaru, they should include a wolf plush to make it clear it's not an attempt to curry Amaterasu's favour?

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  • Iwasforger03 wrote: Thanks Elrod, good diversion with the Tansy toss.

    Anne wrote: So unless Elrod is doing something besides throwing out a red herring (ya know that needs an emoticon) with the Tansy bit here,


    What am I, chopped liver? Elrod's not the one who first brought up Tansy as possibly being Financier.

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  • Valentine wrote: Bunny? Nah, she likes making stuff too much to spend her time being Warren Buffet.

    I think you're on to something. Financier is Warren Buffet, who Nimbus dosed by accident due to a mishap during David Goodkind's birthday party.

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  • elrodw wrote:

    mhalpern wrote:

    Anne wrote: I'm going to say that Financier is Ayla. The facts fit pretty closely. My guess for Jennifer Kelly is probably off the wall but I think she is Lanath. Again the facts that we know lead that way... And just where are her children? We know that Lanie has one, she's pregnant in gen 1... Given what we know of mutant biology, it's a wonder that she only has three!

    I concur the Financier is probably Ayla, with the coffee, and other clues OF COURSE I didn't see any of his common speech patterns (other than status based) in the Financier's dialog, but of course that means little, and the rest of Kimba may have teased that out of him.


    You have to bear in mind that I am not nearly as good with Ayla's speech patterns as Diane, the original writer. Same holds true for any of us writing any other Team Kimba members. So regardless of whether the Financier is Ayla, the speech patterns of Financier alone are not a legitimate clue. And there are clues aplenty strewn about throughout the story :evil:

    And perhaps it's Tansy? Interesting theory. Not Ayla or Ayla? I won't say.
    But we WILL be seeing more of the Financier as the plot thickens develops.


    So above I posited Jennifer Kelly as Lanath, but what if she's actually Tansy? With the new information in Autumn Leaves it seems remotely possible. I really am enjoying all the work the authors here put out.
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  • Bunny as financier seems unlikely. Keeping in mind that we have already had a strong indication that Bunny runs a successful tech company, based on her own gadgets.
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  • There are strong reasons to hold out for Ayla. And strong reasons to believe that if Financier is not Ayla, then she is a cat's paw for Ayla. I think that Ayla of everyone we know right now would have a strong interest in advancing the cause so to speak, even if he is living openly as a very successful mutant tycoon.
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  • With the recent reveal that it is extremely improbable to be Tansy and the implication their partner is a woman, that drastically narrows the list... but Ayla is still ON that list.

    Financier could be a name Ayla uses when working deals "off the table" or "behind closed doors" etc. Stuff that isn't supposed to make it into the press.

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  • I think that we can see that Tansy has pretty well embraced her bisexuality. At least according to the last time we see her and Lanie and Wyatt together. So Zoe for Financier. Or someone acting as Ayla's cat's paw, or Ayla himself acting in a way so as to be incognito.

    The new revelations don't rule out Tansy as Jennifer Kelly the jewel courier. They do make it unlikely. But as she is living in disguise and we may assume that she is whom Kadya is looking for, it may be possible that she is living among those who lost their memories due to whatever disruption happens in 2013 and has taken up a new life. Which may mean that one or more of the Cody kids is hers... Hey I'll stretch the facts my way at least as an opinion.:whip:
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  • We've skipped the obvious person to be Financier. David Goodkind.

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    I am SO enjoying this B)

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  • elrodw wrote: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

    I am SO enjoying this B)


    Of course you are. Evil monster of an author (All authors are, by nature, evil monsters. If they weren't, they'd be terrible authors).

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    So at least a few of us have a semi-wild theory that Laneth somehow got a permanent body and becomes Jennifer Kelly. But what if it that last part isn't the case? What if Lanie became Jennifer Kelly, and Laneth is the Elaine Cody we know in Gen 2?

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  • Valentine wrote: We've skipped the obvious person to be Financier. David Goodkind.

    Nah. David's too busy being Jennifer Kelly.

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  • Okay, can Authors confirm if "Cyber Swarm" is the only "Swarm" at Whateley?

    If he is, then "Mysterious Boy" and "Mysterious Girl" are likely... Wait, no, they're not Cadets / Squirrels / Spy Kids, given how they speak of them... Hmm...

    If we already know the Mysterious Boy and Girl, then presumably they're not anyone close to their targets, else they could just chat them up...
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  • Iwasforger03 wrote: With the recent reveal that it is extremely improbable to be Tansy and the implication their partner is a woman, that drastically narrows the list... but Ayla is still ON that list.

    Financier could be a name Ayla uses when working deals "off the table" or "behind closed doors" etc. Stuff that isn't supposed to make it into the press.


    And of course we do not know if Ayla even survives Zulu.

    Of team Kimba most are unaccounted for and some fo them are extremely high profile.
    We know Fey is still around as she appears in several stories, but Tenyo would be equally difficult to hide anywhere in the world, being a class X entity herself too, being able to power much of the global economy by herself and equally able to blow a huge chunk out of the planet. And it is not as if her distinctive likeness is possible to hide. I can't see her working for the CIA (and I don't think 'uncle' understood at all what kind of power he was trying to scam into signing up) so she either must have gotten killed during Zulu or she left the planet along with Jade (who is also mia, though in her case that is more understandable as creatively powerful as she is, she is not powerful on a world shattering scale)

    Chou is missing too, though that is likely because it has been set up that she was at Whateley for Zulu, and once that was solved she was either killed fixing the imbalance (like many (most?) Handmaids were in the past) or she was allowed to retire.

    And Ayla is also on the list of being too famous and too powerful to conveniently disappear in obscurity. Being a billionaire teenager and a Goodkind to boot (and the relation with those Goodkinds was going to come out sooner rather than later once the more determined journalists started digging) his likeness would have landed her on every publication, and not just the financial ones. Just the act of saving Marvel from itself (and assuming the marvel movie universe took off in the Whateleyverse as well) would make her the hero of millions of fans who would want to know everything about the saviour of superhero movies. And who had the collective resources to find out that everything.
    So if Ayla is Financier (and the story does go out of its way to suggest it is) something major must have happened that deeply affected both his character and his appearance that none of those present recognised him.
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  • Gen1 students who have shown up in Gen2... let me see...
    Fey, Chaka, Jadis, Dragonrider, Nephandus, Ringo, Kodiak, Loophole, Pejuta, Tansy, Eldritch... there must be more people... who am I missing?
    (We have also seen a few younger siblings of Gen1 students, but that by itself is no evidence that the older sibling is still alive)

    Maybe we should start adding a special category to the Wiki for "Gen1 characters with data from Gen2?" Man, that's a mouthful and a half... perhaps "Spoilers from Gen2"?

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  • Vox, Nacht, Belphegor.

    Then there's Spark Suits, Grease Skin or whatever, Bunny and Jinntech.

    Diamondback?

    ... Hmm... No Gen1-refs in the Homer Gallery?

    Sahar...
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  • Erianaiel wrote: And it is not as if her distinctive likeness is possible to hide.

    What? Her most distinctive features are weird hair, pointy ears, cat eyes, and big canines. These are all very possible to hide.

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  • Erianaiel wrote:

    Iwasforger03 wrote:
    Financier could be a name Ayla uses when working deals "off the table" or "behind closed doors" etc. Stuff that isn't supposed to make it into the press.


    And of course we do not know if Ayla even survives Zulu.

    And Ayla is also on the list of being too famous and too powerful to conveniently disappear in obscurity. Being a billionaire teenager and a Goodkind to boot (and the relation with those Goodkinds was going to come out sooner rather than later once the more determined journalists started digging) his likeness would have landed her on every publication, and not just the financial ones. Just the act of saving Marvel from itself (and assuming the marvel movie universe took off in the Whateleyverse as well) would make her the hero of millions of fans who would want to know everything about the saviour of superhero movies. And who had the collective resources to find out that everything.
    So if Ayla is Financier (and the story does go out of its way to suggest it is) something major must have happened that deeply affected both his character and his appearance that none of those present recognised him.


    Remember the Bek patterns of creating different public persona's that are the same person behind the mask.

    There's no reason that Ayla couldn't be behaving like Hartford, using one public persona for her white-hat work, and another for her grey-hat work.


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  • Erianaiel wrote:

    Iwasforger03 wrote: With the recent reveal that it is extremely improbable to be Tansy and the implication their partner is a woman, that drastically narrows the list... but Ayla is still ON that list.

    Financier could be a name Ayla uses when working deals "off the table" or "behind closed doors" etc. Stuff that isn't supposed to make it into the press.


    And of course we do not know if Ayla even survives Zulu.

    Of team Kimba most are unaccounted for and some fo them are extremely high profile.
    We know Fey is still around as she appears in several stories, but Tenyo would be equally difficult to hide anywhere in the world, being a class X entity herself too, being able to power much of the global economy by herself and equally able to blow a huge chunk out of the planet. And it is not as if her distinctive likeness is possible to hide. I can't see her working for the CIA (and I don't think 'uncle' understood at all what kind of power he was trying to scam into signing up) so she either must have gotten killed during Zulu or she left the planet along with Jade (who is also mia, though in her case that is more understandable as creatively powerful as she is, she is not powerful on a world shattering scale)

    Chou is missing too, though that is likely because it has been set up that she was at Whateley for Zulu, and once that was solved she was either killed fixing the imbalance (like many (most?) Handmaids were in the past) or she was allowed to retire.

    And Ayla is also on the list of being too famous and too powerful to conveniently disappear in obscurity. Being a billionaire teenager and a Goodkind to boot (and the relation with those Goodkinds was going to come out sooner rather than later once the more determined journalists started digging) his likeness would have landed her on every publication, and not just the financial ones. Just the act of saving Marvel from itself (and assuming the marvel movie universe took off in the Whateleyverse as well) would make her the hero of millions of fans who would want to know everything about the saviour of superhero movies. And who had the collective resources to find out that everything.
    So if Ayla is Financier (and the story does go out of its way to suggest it is) something major must have happened that deeply affected both his character and his appearance that none of those present recognised him.


    Hiding Tennyo is easy, she doesn't have to be on the planet, Ayla : not in focus for POV g2 characters, rich but can keep out of spotlight after family issues taken care of.

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  • mhalpern wrote: Hiding Tennyo is easy, she doesn't have to be on the planet, Ayla : not in focus for POV g2 characters, rich but can keep out of spotlight after family issues taken care of.


    That was the point I was trying to make. If she is on earth Tenyo /would/ be hard to hide. Not necessarily impossible but hard. The combination of Tenyo and the J-team would be harder to hide still. So the lack of common reference to her suggests that either she is dead or she left earth (or the more realistic possibility is that none of the gen 2 authors felt confident in giving her a cameo ;) )

    Regarding Ayla, the biggest argument against the Financier being her is that even if Ayla is keeping a low profile, just by virtue of being a multi billionaire, owner of Marvel movies (and how many other famous purchases she made since and being a high school student at the time) would have made him famous and is likeness well known. I mean, Bill Gates is keeping a low profile nowadays but everybody still would recognise him in an instant.

    So even if Ayla would go by the alter ego of Financier these days, it still stands to reason that he would be recognised. Since he was not this leaves open the possibility the Financier is not Ayla (and in that case, what happened to Ayla), or that something drastic happened in the decade since (and the most likely source of that drastic still is Zulu.)
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  • Erianaiel wrote:

    mhalpern wrote: Hiding Tennyo is easy, she doesn't have to be on the planet, Ayla : not in focus for POV g2 characters, rich but can keep out of spotlight after family issues taken care of.


    That was the point I was trying to make. If she is on earth Tenyo /would/ be hard to hide. Not necessarily impossible but hard. The combination of Tenyo and the J-team would be harder to hide still. So the lack of common reference to her suggests that either she is dead or she left earth (or the more realistic possibility is that none of the gen 2 authors felt confident in giving her a cameo ;) )

    Regarding Ayla, the biggest argument against the Financier being her is that even if Ayla is keeping a low profile, just by virtue of being a multi billionaire, owner of Marvel movies (and how many other famous purchases she made since and being a high school student at the time) would have made him famous and is likeness well known. I mean, Bill Gates is keeping a low profile nowadays but everybody still would recognise him in an instant.

    So even if Ayla would go by the alter ego of Financier these days, it still stands to reason that he would be recognised. Since he was not this leaves open the possibility the Financier is not Ayla (and in that case, what happened to Ayla), or that something drastic happened in the decade since (and the most likely source of that drastic still is Zulu.)

    Tennyo is capable of space travel and could be on another part of the world.

    For Ayla, you do realize that maybe only 5% of the top 1% are household names, if Ayla doesn't take a visible part in owning those properties, then no one would know, also Ayla owns Marvel COMICS the MCU is owned by Disney...

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  • You've yet to explain why Tennyo is hard to hide, Erianaiel.

    Also, you're really overstating the likeliness that we'd have heard about her. Let's say Tennyo has settled down as a local hero in Colorado Springs and isn't using any kind of disguise or secret identity. When not fighting crime, she openly teaches ballroom dance at the Starstalker Studio, where she routinely dances on the walls and ceilings. Zero secrecy. Yet, why would Laura, Erica, Hikaru, Pat, or any of the other students who aren't from that specific city or region even know she exists, let alone think to comment about her? The adults at Whateley like Caitlin and Imp might know what she's up to, but at what point would she have been a relevant person to think about during their POV sequences, or to bring up during dialog? Nor has her existence been pertinent to the Kayda/Tansy/Elaine stuff.

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  • mhalpern, no, Ayla is essentially playing the role Avi Arad played in the RealWorld -- he took over Marvel when it was in a pretty bad state, and maneuvered to have a more active part in the movie-making (and profits-earning). There are differences -- the situation with movies pre-AJG acquisition was possibly worse (Merchant-Ivory Hulk, anyone?), with the third Spider-Man movie stuck in development hell. And he leveraged his Japanese contacts to twist Sony's Arm, so Spider-Man 3 would be a bit more of a collaboration.

    Also, Disney DOES own Marvel Comics in the RealWorld. They bought the company, lock, stock and barrel so they would own the characters outright. But as for Ayla selling Marvel to Disney? Might happen, I guess, but Ayla strikes me as more of a Warren Buffett-style investor -- purchases undervalued corporations, fixes what's wrong with them (usually bad administration) so they become profitable, and keeps them. Berkshire Hathaway hardly ever divests a company they own.

    And you do have a point about most billionaires being unknown to the general public, Ayla's name might be a bit notorious due to his youth, but if he does not draw attention to himself (the way that, say, Elon Musk does), few people would know what he looks like. That is compounded by the facts that (a) Beautiful people (and Ayla is model-beautiful) tend to have less distinguishing features, (b) Adult 24-year-old Ayla might look somewhat different than teenager Ayla, and (c) women (and Ayla counts as a woman, appearance-wise) have all sorts of options to change their looks. So, it's conceivable that Financier is Ayla with a different hairstyle, different makeup, different clothes, leveraging the fact that he's unlikely to meet somebody who knows him well enough as Ayla to see through the disguise.

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