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7 years 6 months ago #1 by Yolandria
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  • Another great story! Post comments in the section below!

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    7 years 6 months ago #2 by Dreamer
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  • A new story from Bek, the return of the Loose Cannons! Enjoy and comment.

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    7 years 6 months ago - 7 years 6 months ago #3 by Malady
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  • When I saw that title, I was like. "How... Timely?"

    Chaos and more Chaos! :lol:

    ... That End! ... Gotta look things up...

    How many ways to Whateley have they passed over in their ignorance? I've seen the obvious one...
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    7 years 6 months ago #4 by Schismatism
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  • Gotta say, seeing the Loose Cannons again is always awesome, even if it's not quite the much-anticipated next chapter of SGGA. And they're getting a pretty good handle on that whole survival thing, what with learning from their failures. Of course their first run - in Vegas! - is going to go tits-up, be it the luck of the draw or the drop of the ball. This second try was almost great... and then everyone's favorite vigilante suddenly waltzes in and makes a mess of things. Kinda makes you wonder if maybe Ginny had something to do with that!

    Eee, though: more of Brian Andrew Gentry! The man simply oozes style.

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    7 years 6 months ago #5 by pumpernickel
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  • Woof. I don't know how the timing on this story's release could have been more unfortunate. Obviously I feel bad for what happened IRL, but I feel really bad too for Bek for this story being so ridiculously coincidentally preambled by such an event.
    7 years 6 months ago #6 by Dreamer
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    7 years 6 months ago #7 by Sir Lee
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  • Hmmm... that escrow warehouse reminded me of Tether... which took place in Reno, that is, the other city in Nevada with a casino economy... I wonder if there's a link...?

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    7 years 6 months ago #8 by Ametros
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  • While I'm excited to read this, I'll be putting it off in favour of a refresher course on the previous exploits of the Loose Cannons. I'm so stoked to see more. :cheer:

    Seriously, thank you for your time and effort. It is appreciated.
    7 years 6 months ago #9 by Hardric
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  • Wow, Ramsey's Probability Warping is really all over the place here. Forget Psychics, if Vegas' people learn an Odd Mangler is there, they'll have to run away really fast. Although it does make this VTOL's presence less suspiscious (not completely, mind you, I'm not that naive).

    And duck, they're pretty good for amateurs, and just improving fast, thanks to the school of 'Evolve or Die'. Hope they can improve fast enough.

    The more I see their adventures, the more I think it could be interesting to see some scenarios out of the Loose Cannoons' story in simulation runs for Whateley G2. Or even the next years of G1.

    And that's Brigand, back from the Silver Ghost's story. I wonder what would be his deal here?
    7 years 6 months ago #10 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • Hm... Brigand's interests probably align with Cannons. If their story gets told then he gets to humiliate the Army, the MCO, and reveal a huge underbed of corruption stretching all across the States.

    It will be interesting to see him dealing with them. He strikes me as the kind of person who enacts his plots though detailed preparations. Not that he's afraid to play things by ear, but that he likes to go into situations knowing everything about them so that he knows how to manipulate everything to his desired results. And that's probably impossible when dealing with the Loose Cannons. Between the secrecy, coverups, and extra team members and gear they keep picking up, getting a handle on exactly what they are capable of is ridiculously difficult. And between the 13 of them they have a ridiculous breadth of perspectives, experiences, and powers, which makes figuring out how they will react to any given situation nearly impossible. Not to mention that they are teenagers.

    "Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
    7 years 6 months ago #11 by Anne
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  • Yep teenagers, If I recall that age correctly I and everyone I knew could have been considered agents of chaos!
    7 years 6 months ago #12 by Ametros
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  • Well then, that was a pleasure to read, if a little delayed due to going over their shenanigans in California again. On with it, I say:

    "Vegas is like a Psychic Motel!" Uh huh. And you're chasing UNITY, a group focused on Psychics, there. When are you going to make that possible connection?

    ...Well that's an utterly horrifying and nauseating way for those gizmos to function. I was curious about them before, but now I'd rather not have known. I guess the question remains as to the fate of humans inducted. Are they converts, or are they converted?

    Oh, right. The Vegas showmatch thing, and notably their illegal feed into the Whateley combat finals. I wonder how close the Loose Cannons will come to discovering Whateley before they high tail it out of Vegas?

    Impressive stealth tech on what seems like some form of anti-grav dropship/freighter - must be a big operation going on to warrant that level of discretion.

    And how much have they filled Ginny in? Ah, apparently not much at all. Poor girl.

    I know what ship I'm sailing on. Any others taking passage on the good ship Evan Roxie?

    Brigand, hmm? Who is it speaking, and is Brigand familiar enough to be recognisable, or is there a sense of greater familiarity implied in that cliffhanger? At any rate, back in Cali, the theory was that some competent tactician was leading the Cannons in their efforts - what are the odds that Brigand will become the primary suspect in that fallacy, or that he might in truth assume such a role?

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    7 years 6 months ago #13 by jmhyp
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  • I don't want to be a downer. If I have any criticism of the Loose Cannons stories, it's that they don't read as teenagers. They know way too much about how the world operates. They use weird, old-fashioned phrases: no one born after 1980 would say razzle-dazzle. I know that a call back to another story, meant to be a wink and a nod, but it is still jarring while trying to follow the story. How does someone _know_ the Feds have a million ways to recover data from a hard drive? How does a teen know so much about the armed forces bases around Denver? They speak with such confidence about "how the mob works". Why? They are a lot less chaotic then a dozen teenagers should be when planning something.

    In any case that, and trying to remember all of their names and powers, takes me out of the story a few too many times to really enjoy it. Maybe I'm just not remembering stuff about the kids from the earlier stories that explains why they are such experts in so many diverse topics.
    7 years 6 months ago #14 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • jmhyp wrote: I don't want to be a downer. If I have any criticism of the Loose Cannons stories, it's that they don't read as teenagers. They know way too much about how the world operates. They use weird, old-fashioned phrases: no one born after 1980 would say razzle-dazzle. I know that a call back to another story, meant to be a wink and a nod, but it is still jarring while trying to follow the story. How does someone _know_ the Feds have a million ways to recover data from a hard drive? How does a teen know so much about the armed forces bases around Denver? They speak with such confidence about "how the mob works". Why? They are a lot less chaotic then a dozen teenagers should be when planning something.

    In any case that, and trying to remember all of their names and powers, takes me out of the story a few too many times to really enjoy it. Maybe I'm just not remembering stuff about the kids from the earlier stories that explains why they are such experts in so many diverse topics.


    I think that you're giving the Cannons too much credit. They speak like they are authorities on half a dozen different topics, and what they say sounds good, but is actually based in fact? To me it read as if they're taking a bit of personal knowledge, a bit of cultural stereotype, and a lot of supposition and reeling it off as if they are actually experts, because they're teenagers who think they know everything.

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    7 years 6 months ago #15 by MM2ss
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  • I wouldn't worry about the "old fashioned phrases" too much either. I am hearing lines from kids in school that were "in" back in my day. Those lines faded out and now are making a comeback.
    7 years 6 months ago #16 by Katssun
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  • Anyone who has seen Chicago as a play or the film has used the phrase "razzle-dazzle."

    ;)
    7 years 6 months ago - 7 years 6 months ago #17 by E M Pisek
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    7 years 6 months ago #18 by marie7342231
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  • Great to see the Cannons back in action! I went back and reread the series to catch up before Vegas. Love what's coming Bek! Please keep it up :-)

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    7 years 6 months ago - 7 years 6 months ago #19 by Sir Lee
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  • I'm in the process or rereading the original series (about halfway), and I started becoming worried that we may have inserted incorrect information into the Wiki -- to wit, I'm not sure if Evan's father is in fact dead.
    On one hand, we see Evan hit him on the head with an energy sword. That sure seems lethal.
    OTOH, Evan did not seem overly concerned about the possibility of having killed his own father. Also, when we see the POV of the KoP asshole commander, I got the impression that Lt. Col. Ramsey had been present at the post-mortem meet -- and he didn't mention anything about "killing an Air Force officer" as one of the charges against the Cannons.
    Maybe it gets clarified later in the story, but I'm still concerned.

    (Edit after reading "Vegas, Baby, Vegas part 2")
    Well... it seem that I was right about being wrong. Now to fix the Wiki entries...

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    7 years 6 months ago #20 by Malady
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  • OH! Their group name is forming!

    Brigand is Teaching! AWWW!

    Chaos! So much chaos! HAHAHA!

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    7 years 6 months ago #21 by Dreamer
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    7 years 6 months ago #22 by null0trooper
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  • Malady wrote: Where are Tulpas on the Entity spectrum? ... Any relation to Hobgoblins??


    Hobgoblins are usually "wasted" essence manifesting from a pattern in the magician's unconscious mind, or something equally random, and not considered fully sentient.

    Tulpas are usually psychic energy that has been consciously compiled and molded. That sounds much like a analog of Type 2 spirits called into being through evocation instead of summoning. It's up to the individual whether they want to try banishing one to see if they react the same.

    One might prefer to let the academics argue over whether such things are sentient like some humans, or just following instinctual behaviors imparted by the magician's expectations, like some humans. That doesn't mean they cannot be grown (for lack of a better word) into a more complex, sentient being. (How it's stabilized in the interim may vary, a lot)

    Whether you want to empower something further that may be empowered simply by group belief? YMMV.

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    7 years 6 months ago #23 by Malady
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  • Wait a sec... The Cannons are sorta the PSI squad...

    Are Tulpas gonna come back, 'cause the Cannons need a new tactic at some point??

    What are the Cannons jumping out to, actually?

    Even with Brigand with them, how are they gonna escape the people that are hot on their heels?? ... OH... That Crew that just landed in Vegas... They're gonna come in and disrupt things so the Cannons can hop on that weird ship, and go to whereever... I think.
    7 years 6 months ago #24 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • When they started talking about Tulpas I got them mixed up with Pucas and was very confused.


    I'm sure that Brigand has a deeper game in all this, but it doesn't seem to be one that requires sacrificing the Cannons (at least not yet), so I'm willing to let him have his game. Even so, I'm guessing that even he wasn't expecting the level of FUBAR that the Cannons seem to spontaneously generate whenever they go out in public.

    Since I can't figure out how to embed a video that starts part way through, you get a link instead

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    7 years 6 months ago #25 by Hardric
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  • And now Bland's outfit power armors have been spootted on-screen, and I doubt autorities are the only ones who saw them, and that will prompt questions. Heck, Brigand's presence, despite the sneakinness of the guy will get people asking 'Why the Heck is Mister Anti Crooked Establishment working with these guys', and well, he will probably be tagged as the one behind their professionnalism too, so he does need for them to be innocented so his own image isn't sullied. Guess that makes an as solid as it can be reason to cooperate with the Cannons (Hurrah for first step towards official name).

    And the guy who blooped Evan is literally called Evil Eye... I'd really like to see the guy on the other side of the probability warping blooper next time they meet, that's just begging to be written.
    7 years 6 months ago #26 by Valentine
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  • At least he didn't mention the TV show.



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    7 years 6 months ago #27 by Sir Lee
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  • The TV show was... mediocre, I would say. And it sorta went against the whole point of the film. Which is why Roy Scheider set fire to the chopper and let it on the train tracks.

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  • Sir Lee wrote: The TV show was... mediocre, I would say. And it sorta went against the whole point of the film. Which is why Roy Scheider set fire to the chopper and let it on the train tracks.


    Hopefully Brig took Evan's warning to heart, (Seems like he did) Although I wouldn't be surprised if the MCO guy tried to cover up the Cannons origins again. harder to hack YouTube quietly,

    I liked Airwolf better.



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  • Woo, part 2 of Vegas!

    Two scheduled raids with Brigand? More than enough for him to be identified (in his true identity or not) as the "rallying benefactor" theorised to be leading the Cannons, as I postulated after part 1.

    Ah, but of course Brigand is at least a step ahead of me, and well-versed in public perception. Competency is ironically counterproductive.

    They've got a good and simple plan to go in, and with enough flexibility for everybody to improvise individually, therefore guaranteeing a devolution into a clusterfuck. One can only hope if will be favourable for the kids.

    Imminent containment failure during the raid? What luck. And considering the broad similarities in technological architecture here, I wonder if those psychic mind spiders from San Francisco were part of this tulpa research?

    My gut response was that Swive's exuberance at the Cannons being cleaned up was inappropriate. But immediately after I realised that they were an unauthorised and heavily-armed group of individuals, so of course Swive would approve. Completely appropriate - for him.

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    7 years 5 months ago - 7 years 5 months ago #30 by Schol-R-LEA
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  • My guess is that the Cannons are going to get tagged with killing Ranney. Why? Because either Swive is going to kill him, or Haines is, either the next time he tries to bring either of them in line, or because he saw things that contradicted either Swive's claims or Haines'.

    My guess is that Swive will order his men to set up a transmission jammer of some kind, to kill the video stream (and conveniently keep either Hero Watch or the LVPD from sending messages out, too), Ranney argues with him, and Swive, realizing his ass depends on keeping the truth shut up tight, blasts him and reports that Evan did it.

    This may involve one or both of them killing Hanson and Cummings, too, but I expect both Swive and Haines would have been looking for an excuse to do that, anyway, once they had a chance to do it in a way that pins the blame on the kids. Of course, each of them is probably also looking for a way to eliminate the other one, because they both know too much about what the other is doing, but that's less likely to happen this time out.

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  • ^ Interesting!

    ... Latest news: VBV is going on for four more parts...

    My question is: How are they stuck in Vegas ''that'' long??

    Actually.. Any guesses how long a time those 4 parts will be?
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  • Malady wrote: My question is: How are they stuck in Vegas ''that'' long??

    Actually.. Any guesses how long a time those 4 parts will be?


    A couple of possibilities come to mind:
    1. Only 4 hours, but the fight scenes are very detailed.
    2. Or we might have a better idea once Evan graduates UNLV in Part 4.
    (not that graduation cannot be expedited through the judicious use of funding to meet both conditions)

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    7 years 5 months ago - 7 years 5 months ago #33 by Hardric
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  • Schol-R-LEA wrote: My guess is that the Cannons are going to get tagged with killing Ranney. Why? Because either Swive is going to kill him, or Haines is, either the next time he tries to bring either of them in line, or because he saw things that contradicted either Swive's claims or Haines'.

    My guess is that Swive will order his men to set up a transmission jammer of some kind, to kill the video stream (and conveniently keep either Hero Watch or the LVPD from sending messages out, too), Ranney argues with him, and Swive, realizing his ass depends on keeping the truth shut up tight, blasts him and reports that Evan did it.

    This may involve one or both of them killing Hanson and Cummings, too, but I expect both Swive and Haines would have been looking for an excuse to do that, anyway, once they had a chance to do it in a way that pins the blame on the kids. Of course, each of them is probably also looking for a way to eliminate the other one, because they both know too much about what the other is doing, but that's less likely to happen this time out.


    While on the paper eliminate people who could broadcast, or worst, believe the Cannons' story look seducing at some level, that's still a major brainfart whose fallout could be epic.

    First, there is no guarantee all broadcast onsite will be killed, and recording devices not used for live-diffusion could still be there,leading to the release of a compromising video later. And that's not even accounting for the idea the murder attempt just goes wrong, and they're facing a group with a probability warper, which is for now in cahoots with Brigand (and given the media coverage the Cannons are getting, if he get tied to them, he'll need them cleared not just for the major brownie points but also for not seeing his reputation tanked by association with mercenaries kidnappers. Reputation is a two way street, your associates count too).

    And there is the fact newspeople getting killed in this sort of situation can rise the anger, yes, but that can also lead people to ask themselves questions about 'why did they get killed?', especially when the Cannons don't exactly have actual murders on-screen tagged to them before. They're reporters trying to follow super-powered combats and that's always a risk, yes, but for that to happen just when no broadcast is disponible and just when the Cannons began giving their version of facts to the people? Fishy don't begin to describe that.

    It will get even more people following that mess, but also more asking questions, and Swive is the one with the swiss cheese alibi. A desperate measure like that one is just begging to blow up to his face, and I don't see it happening before things get desperate for him. Haines 'As Long As It Is Official' now, provided he's a plant for whatever organization is tracking the Cannons, could care a little less about the repercussions...
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    7 years 5 months ago #34 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • "Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
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  • And every plan where you lose your hat is a bad plan (duck, these comics take me back in time).
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  • jmhyp wrote: I don't want to be a downer. If I have any criticism of the Loose Cannons stories, it's that they don't read as teenagers. They know way too much about how the world operates. They use weird, old-fashioned phrases: no one born after 1980 would say razzle-dazzle. I know that a call back to another story, meant to be a wink and a nod, but it is still jarring while trying to follow the story. How does someone _know_ the Feds have a million ways to recover data from a hard drive? How does a teen know so much about the armed forces bases around Denver? They speak with such confidence about "how the mob works". Why? They are a lot less chaotic then a dozen teenagers should be when planning something.

    In any case that, and trying to remember all of their names and powers, takes me out of the story a few too many times to really enjoy it. Maybe I'm just not remembering stuff about the kids from the earlier stories that explains why they are such experts in so many diverse topics.

    You're not wrong, but yeah, there are mitigating factors you've forgotten. Evan knows a lot about military bases because his father is a lieutenant colonel in the air force, and as VBV1 states, they actually lived on one of the bases in question (Peterson) for three years. He's also very good at motorcycles, and he was shown to be pretty intelligent from the start; he was complaining about how far ahead of the curve his dad had pushed him in math, and he liked to amuse himself by manipulating bullies into convoluted pranks that required careful timing as well as knowledge of chemistry and electronics. Roxy was also described as being extremely smart from the very beginning, way too smart for the school she was stuck in. Chris, meanwhile, was a bit of a merchant, selling many things of varying legality, and would have developed good people skills along the way. Rachel hung out with the thugs and Billy was a thief, so they have some first-hand knowledge of how low-level crime works. Billy was also obsessed with ninjas, comics, etc., so he knows a lot about the superhuman world. And Eddie... Eddie watches a lot of TV. You were wondering how they'd know the feds can recover data? CSI and NCIS. I was born just a few years before these kids and definitely loved the hell out of CSI when I was their age.

    Besides their backgrounds, we also know that at least Billy got an augmented memory as one of his powers (including for memories originally formed prior to the experiment), and we've seen evidence that Evan and Roxy both got some kind of speed-reading or speed-thinking power. Most of them (at least Evan, Shawn, Roxie, Chris, Suzy, and Mac) got their default appearances upgraded, so it might be that they manifested as exemplars. If so, they may have gotten some general mental augmentation as well.

    But yeah. This is a Bek story, so all the things you mentioned are to be expected. Bek's stuff just wouldn't be the same without knowledge-packed protagonists using slightly stale phrasings while padding them with all the hey a horse could want, seasoned with a preference toward all-caps and underlines rather than italics. Hey, it's part of the charm!

    Anyway, re-reading the first batch of stories would definitely be a good idea. That's what I did, which is why I haven't gotten around to reading these new ones until tonight. Glad I did, because I'd forgotten so many things. Important things, fun things, even a few sweet things.

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  • Really my only complaint is the sheer number of people who get involved make it difficult to keep track of.

    But as KK says, it is a Bek story, and that is part of what Bek's stories are known for.
    Just means a slightly different style of reading is needed.

    I used to have a score card for Loose Cannons, but I lost it :D
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  • Bek even did a sorta backwards-lampshading of it, back in the beginning of Chapter 2 of the original Loose Cannons; Mr. Bland assumes that the kids wouldn't be able to pull what they did because they specifically chose the "dregs" of the public school system. Except he didn't: he selected for the misfits and troublemakers of the school, assuming that they would be "stupid, ignorant, undisciplined, and lazy." But there are all sorts of reasons for one being a square peg, and those simply didn't fit his preconceptions. He didn't expect a near-genius student to be a doper, or that an advanced one to be a troublemaker out of boredom. He didn't expect that a guy with good social skills like Mack to get in trouble from defending his peers. He assumes that doing borderline criminal things is a sign of laziness. And so forth.

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  • I'd say he also severely underestimated any survival instinct they could have. People facing assured death if they bloop tend to get an extra motivation about thinking and working together. The Cannons are painfully aware they have been confronted to an 'evolve or die' situation from the start, and it does wonder to the thinking (Rae did get the necessity of getting out together quickly when Evan and Mack pointed it out, Eddie got some shining moments, and even with his brainfarts, Billy did pull out some good tricks, to talk about the Cannons being the closest to Bland's preconceptions). And choosing an unbalanced mix of ethnics origin... Not only did they black members of the group did support Mack (better possible choice for leader) from the start, but he neglected to make sure the kids were actualy racists. If whoever is behind the robot from LC part 2 knew more about the actual selection (I'll put my money on Niimbus), I doubt Bland would have walked away from that meeting.
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  • I stand by my guns. Brigand is on their side in his twisted way. He has potentially far too much to lose in ways of reputation in the public for being associated with villainious Cannons as an ally, something which still can happen. And the potential of putting the entire establishement's face in the mud for the way the Cannons were treated is just too great to ignore. And he put way too much efffort in it for a vanilla betrayal. Something more is coming on.

    They need better codenames too. Herowatch doesn't seem that talented for that. Although I'll give the media sharks points for the first canon mention of Loose Cannons.

    And... Am I the only one sensing a potential triangle between Chris, Evan and Rox(ie)?
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  • Ugh, loosing another friend to death. The realities of the dark and gritty side of the WU stand out in this story. It is a good story though.

    Does anybody else think that some snarky superhero will someday call Major Threat 'Slight Nuisance' to his face?

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  • Amy_Amethyst wrote: Ugh, loosing another friend to death. The realities of the dark and gritty side of the WU stand out in this story. It is a good story though.

    Does anybody else think that some snarky superhero will someday call Major Threat 'Slight Nuisance' to his face?

    I could see that happening if somehow he ran into Team Kimba, that sounds like something Ayla or Jade would snark over their spots....
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  • Anne wrote:

    Amy_Amethyst wrote: Ugh, loosing another friend to death. The realities of the dark and gritty side of the WU stand out in this story. It is a good story though.

    Does anybody else think that some snarky superhero will someday call Major Threat 'Slight Nuisance' to his face?

    I could see that happening if somehow he ran into Team Kimba, that sounds like something Ayla or Jade would snark over their spots....


    Or Imp, if he ever ended up on her bad side.


    I was on the fence before, but after the RPG launcher that "happened" to be loaded, I am now convinced that Evan (or some other Loose Cannon, but probably Evan) is an Odds Mangler.

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  • Spotlight Girl? Are we sure that Ayla doesn't Moonlight as Danica Hanson?

    So has Brigand really backstabbed them, or is he showing them just how bad things can get.

    Lots of annoying the villains and heroes of Vegas.

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  • My guess? The whole thing about Straylight was a ruse to distract them as he...

    ...makes time-consuming preparations to relocate them to somewhere other than Denver, in a way that looks like he screwed them over but which they eventually realize was a big favor to them. Or maybe he'll just get them to Whateley straightaway (he presumably knows something about WA, given his intelligence network, and would have contacts who could make the deal).

    Or, he could make it look like he sold them out to Blackheart, initially, but in a way that both ensures BH keeps at least a few of them alive, and causes BH to take them to Brigand's real target (allowing him to track them there) and/or allows Brigand to get the information he's after in some other, less direct way.

    Of course, this is all predicated on the assumption that the person helping them up to now really is the Brigand in the first place, but it's hard to see why anyone would go to that level of deception for all of this.

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  • Personally I'm betting Brigand did sell them out to the people hunting them.

    The the Cannons will be taken to a local facility, from where they will break out and then follow through on the plans to steal the saucer thing and flee to Denver.

    Brigand, of course, is actually looking for that facility, has subtly helped the cannons to escape, and is busy ransacking the place while everyone else is trying to follow the cannons.

    During their after action talk about the escape, Evan will realize what actually happened, why, and vow to kick Brigand in the nuts and then thank him.

    Timing is wrong for them to end up at Whateley by the end of this story, at least without quite a few months time skip.
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  • Wowza. This is quite the installment, so here goes with my thoughts as I read:

    Darth Viper - if this is Brigand's job, this seems a likely cover... And there's the distraction. Intentionally unprofessional so as to create a big chaotic mess. Followed up by a rather slick exit from them all, but I see fuel becoming a problem. Oh, and I'm now shipping Chris with Evan. Haven't given up on the Rox ship, though.

    Oh! Psike the Bad Seed! Double oh! These are the dames who had the misfortune to be locked up with Jobe! Hmm, these villains don't have the savvy to recognise a Diabolik? That could very easily get them in trouble - the only question being if there would be anything left for Dr. Dad.

    BAM! Ah, comedic timing... Tangling with villains in public, on camera? Brilliant PR. Sure, it wasn't planned that way, but the odds have always been peculiar to the Cannons.

    And finally, there's the inevitable backstab. But what game is Brigand playing? What's his angle here, and what will he gain from doing this? Is it even necessarily sinister or to the detriment of our protags? Whatever the case, Evan blundered by picking an obvious choice against a Mastermind. The easiest method is right out, and so is the hardest, as that's to be expected. Would have been better to just randomly pick a place to exit.

    We're only halfway through the Vegas leg of this trip, and it's only going to get wilder from here on in, of course. Looking forward to the rest.

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    Brigand realising that they don't have the chops to pull off the heist.

    Brigand using the bounty on their heads as a way of getting close to his real targets.

    Brigand knowing that the opposition have PSI's, so uses the underhand methods of capturing them, as a way of providing a cover-story if they are psychically read.

    That's one theory. More coffee...


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  • Bek, you are an expert at setting a scene, introducing the new players, staging a huge battle, and cleaning up any loose ends. I LOVED this update.

    I'd love to see a spin off story about Darth Viper. So many layers, so much potential.

    Thanks!
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  • I'm in the camp that thinks that this isn't a complete betrayal. Brigand is smart. He's not greedy enough to sell out his loose ends rather than kill them, especially with how important publicity is to him. Dollars to doughnuts, the Mutant Death Matches are Brigand's target, and he's hoping that the Loose Cannon's general propensity for mayhem will blast them into the open.

    If that is indeed the case, then he probably hung on to Megan - partially to buy back their good will, and partially because she likely would have been killed. It wouldn't surprise me if he was the Golden Gladiator either - there to give the show a little blood to keep Vicious from souring on the kids too much, and possibly to tip the odds in their favor a little bit.


    I forget, do any of the other Cannons know about Evan's teleporting trick yet? I bet his collar isn't rigged properly to block that. Although that's not something he really wants to test. And while he (or she, one she teleports) might be capable of teleporting out from under the collar, I'd imagine the chances are high that she'd teleport out from under her clothes too.

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  • I have a feeling Brigand is...well being Brigand. He is after the big fish...And by using the kids as bait he allows himself a way in. If he hasn't already infiltrated her organization. He has a good handle on what the kids can/can't do. So i'm sure he has faith in their abilities to survive this mess.

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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote: I'm in the camp that thinks that this isn't a complete betrayal. Brigand is smart. He's not greedy enough to sell out his loose ends rather than kill them, especially with how important publicity is to him. Dollars to doughnuts, the Mutant Death Matches are Brigand's target, and he's hoping that the Loose Cannon's general propensity for mayhem will blast them into the open.

    If that is indeed the case, then he probably hung on to Megan - partially to buy back their good will, and partially because she likely would have been killed. It wouldn't surprise me if he was the Golden Gladiator either - there to give the show a little blood to keep Vicious from souring on the kids too much, and possibly to tip the odds in their favor a little bit.


    I forget, do any of the other Cannons know about Evan's teleporting trick yet? I bet his collar isn't rigged properly to block that. Although that's not something he really wants to test. And while he (or she, one she teleports) might be capable of teleporting out from under the collar, I'd imagine the chances are high that she'd teleport out from under her clothes too.


    I totally agree with the reasoning on Brigand's plan here. Not that they won't want to club his face after that, but I'm certain you're right, or at least in the general zone of right (Brigand not flatlty selling them out), both because letting them live after seemingly selling them out is flat out stupid for a 30 years veteran operative, and because it pretty much flies against everything he built his image on. Backslash would be lethal.

    And the Death Matches... When the freaking KoP are disgusted, you know you reached the bottom, Earth's Core level. I hope the Madam will end up as a vicious stain on something. Can't wait for these fireworks. Also nice to see the people around Swine asking the right questions. Bet he can feel the heat...

    And yes, Evan kept the teleporting for themself, on the grounds of 'no point mentionning it when I can't make a reliable use of it'.

    P.S.: Really hope the Cannons get a chance of changing names. Although Hexblade is a rather nice one (bonus point for unknowingly account for the Probability Warping power).
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  • I'm also on the "Brigand is up to something" Train. He IS a smooth operator, too smooth to be a flat sell-out. Fact is, you can't just "tell" these kids you're selling them out, they'd get discovered if you did. You've got to actually sell them out, with a plan to rescue them afterwards or faith that when you send the death matches belly up, they'll see to themselves like they have before.

    I really doubt Brigand needed the money for selling them OR the money they'd gathered to themselves. He might sell them out to keep the lid on what he was doing in Vegas, but he seems to be a genuine believer in "good will" so to speak. Plus it would make more sense to kill them if what you want is to keep them quiet.

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  • Actually... I think those are intended to be their permanent name. I mean, let's take it one by one... most of them are variations on the nicknames used by the HeroWatch broadcasters in the previous chapter (after all, Madam Vicious wants "brand recognition"), but not all...

    *"Blue Max" -- also not a bad name (riffing on the "Blue Mack" nickname coined by the HeroWatch people), punning on "Mack" and his blue aura, and associating it with "military valor" (important part, particularly for a black character, a German decoration that was not tainted by Nazi association). Also a keeper.
    *"Hexblade" -- here's the interesting part... why did Madam Vicious slapped this name on Ev(an|ie)? This did NOT come from HeroWatch, where Ev was just called "Swordgirl." The "blade" part is sorta OK, since it's their most visible (although not actually their only energy) power... but the "Hex" part assumes that M.V. somehow knows about Ev's odds-mangling ability, something that has been heavily suggested but not actually spelled out as in, "Yeah, kid, you are a probability warper." So, it's just too good a fit not to be Bek's choice being inserted here.
    *"Robo-Thug" (another HeroWatch coining) may fit Rae, but I doubt she/he likes it. Sounds too much as a villain's name, and the Cannons don't want to be seen that way. But again, like Power Pork, Rae may be stuck with it for a while.
    *"Shoxx" puns on the "Shocker" nickname from HeroWatch and "Roxx", something that Madame Vicious wouldn't care about when devising their arena codenames. Again, suggesting that this is Bek's final choice rather than a temporary name.
    *"Spotlight" is not a bad name (simplifying the "Spotlight Girl" nickname by the HeroWatch) -- both descriptive and referring to Chris movie-star looks. Chris definitely could do worse than that.
    *"Squid" has been used almost from the start, and it's fairly descriptive. It was pretty much a fait accompli even before the HeroWatch broadcast.
    *"Stonewall" (a pun by the HeroWatch guys) riffs both on Eddie's appearance and on his being inadvertently perceived as gay, something that has been lampshaded since San Francisco with the thing about Eddie liking rainbows. Eddie may hate the name, but it will probably stick to him like... well, "Power Pork" stuck to "Wrecking Ball."
    *"Trubble" -- this is the one I really can't figure out. It doesn't come from HeroWatch either. I mean, punning on "trouble" or maybe "rubble"? WTF? What does any of it has to do with speed? Let me Google it... well, there's also a brewery by that name... again, what?... a weird webcomic named "Trubble Club", which only adds to the WTF factor... and a Brit children's TV show named "Hotel Trubble"... I still got nothing. If this was some brilliant play on words on the part of Bek's, it flew so high above me that it might as well be in geostationary orbit.

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  • Sir Lee wrote: Actually... I think those are intended to be their permanent name. I mean, let's take it one by one... most of them are variations on the nicknames used by the HeroWatch broadcasters in the previous chapter (after all, Madam Vicious wants "brand recognition"), but not all...

    *"Blue Max" -- also not a bad name (riffing on the "Blue Mack" nickname coined by the HeroWatch people), punning on "Mack" and his blue aura, and associating it with "military valor" (important part, particularly for a black character, a German decoration that was not tainted by Nazi association). Also a keeper.
    *"Hexblade" -- here's the interesting part... why did Madam Vicious slapped this name on Ev(an|ie)? This did NOT come from HeroWatch, where Ev was just called "Swordgirl." The "blade" part is sorta OK, since it's their most visible (although not actually their only energy) power... but the "Hex" part assumes that M.V. somehow knows about Ev's odds-mangling ability, something that has been heavily suggested but not actually spelled out as in, "Yeah, kid, you are a probability warper." So, it's just too good a fit not to be Bek's choice being inserted here.
    *"Robo-Thug" (another HeroWatch coining) may fit Rae, but I doubt she/he likes it. Sounds too much as a villain's name, and the Cannons don't want to be seen that way. But again, like Power Pork, Rae may be stuck with it for a while.
    *"Shoxx" puns on the "Shocker" nickname from HeroWatch and "Roxx", something that Madame Vicious wouldn't care about when devising their arena codenames. Again, suggesting that this is Bek's final choice rather than a temporary name.
    *"Spotlight" is not a bad name (simplifying the "Spotlight Girl" nickname by the HeroWatch) -- both descriptive and referring to Chris movie-star looks. Chris definitely could do worse than that.
    *"Squid" has been used almost from the start, and it's fairly descriptive. It was pretty much a fait accompli even before the HeroWatch broadcast.
    *"Stonewall" (a pun by the HeroWatch guys) riffs both on Eddie's appearance and on his being inadvertently perceived as gay, something that has been lampshaded since San Francisco with the thing about Eddie liking rainbows. Eddie may hate the name, but it will probably stick to him like... well, "Power Pork" stuck to "Wrecking Ball."
    *"Trubble" -- this is the one I really can't figure out. It doesn't come from HeroWatch either. I mean, punning on "trouble" or maybe "rubble"? WTF? What does any of it has to do with speed? Let me Google it... well, there's also a brewery by that name... again, what?... a weird webcomic named "Trubble Club", which only adds to the WTF factor... and a Brit children's TV show named "Hotel Trubble"... I still got nothing. If this was some brilliant play on words on the part of Bek's, it flew so high above me that it might as well be in geostationary orbit.


    Monikers like Hexblade let me think some of them would stick, and your in-depth analysis shows this too. That said, these are still codenames forced upon them by a sadistic bitch throwing them in death battles, with a seasoning of HeroWatch's inpired ones, not necessarily the sort you'd like to keep. I think they'll at least try to think about other codenames because of that, even if it's to acknowledge than, like or not, these ones are good (Trubble seems to be a play on the word 'trouble', and well, many speedsters fall in the pittrap of not thinking as fast as they move, or too fast for really think their options, leading to...).

    That said, not sure Vicious know about the Odd Manglers aspect for Evan. More foreshadowing for us at least, but I don't see where she would have gotten the idea by herself. Besides, if she knew that, odds are she would know about the teleport.
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  • Another thing I found interesting... while most of the costumes Madam Vicious had made for the Cannons are, well, designed for the camera, Squid got one with some sort of color-changing capabilities, not unlike the camouflaging mimickry presented by some cephalopods. But that wasn't one of Billy's powers; he gained the ability of melding with shadows from one of those "power crystals", and that was it. Did his powers somehow change? Did M.V. spend money giving Billy a costume with special capabilities? If so, why?
    And, come to think of it... they had obtained dynamorph-crystal power upgrades:

    - Eddie's "turn to stone"
    - Billy's "shadow-camouflage"
    - Ev' flight.
    - Chris' "green lantern" upgrade

    But it seems that only Eddie has retained the upgrade. What happened to the other three power crystals?
    Also, there was something about the plates that housed the crystals being useful to refine one's power, but only if they weren't using a crystal... they had four plates; did we ever see Mack, Rae, Roxx, Shawn or Suzy using those plates?

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  • Sir Lee wrote: Another thing I found interesting... while most of the costumes Madam Vicious had made for the Cannons are, well, designed for the camera, Squid got one with some sort of color-changing capabilities, not unlike the camouflaging mimickry presented by some cephalopods. But that wasn't one of Billy's powers; he gained the ability of melding with shadows from one of those "power crystals", and that was it. Did his powers somehow change? Did M.V. spend money giving Billy a costume with special capabilities? If so, why?
    And, come to think of it... they had obtained dynamorph-crystal power upgrades:

    - Eddie's "turn to stone"
    - Billy's "shadow-camouflage"
    - Ev' flight.
    - Chris' "green lantern" upgrade

    But it seems that only Eddie has retained the upgrade. What happened to the other three power crystals?
    Also, there was something about the plates that housed the crystals being useful to refine one's power, but only if they weren't using a crystal... they had four plates; did we ever see Mack, Rae, Roxx, Shawn or Suzy using those plates?


    Playing the 'Squid angle' to maximum effect? A sign Brigand is really thinking long-term, getting them costumes at these guys' expanse, and that some of these outfits could end up being long-term additions (that one is rather WMG)?

    Now for the rest of the loot, I go Occam's Razor: Not letting the shiny toys in the show fodder's hands when they can use it for themselves, and Eddie keeping his only because they want the thematic effect.

    Edit: That said, I forgot about the plates too, don't think we saw them being used, unlike the crystals.
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  • The only issue with Brigand being after MDM is he would know about the collars. He is not a good guy, no matter what outcomes he favors, if he would put the kids in danger of having their heads explode. So, even if MDM is his goal, he's not a good guy at all.
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  • well, the argument isn't that Brigand is a good guy, just that this doesn't fit his reputation or what we've seen of him on screen previously unless it's part of a bigger plan.

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    7 years 5 months ago #68 by Kettlekorn
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  • He did warn them when they started helping him that people could die. But no, he's not a good guy. He's an anti-villain.

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    7 years 5 months ago #69 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • Maybe the 'Hexblade' moniker was just... lucky? :evil:

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  • Malady wrote: Hmm... Hard Light that's strong enough to be walls... Grab a generator, make a shield under the collars? Or use one of the durables to tank the blast?

    While "strong enough to be walls" and "strong enough to withstand an explosion that would normally destroy a human head" do eventually overlap, they have pretty different starting points. But yeah, if a hard light projector is capable if making a sufficiently strong barrier in the gap between a collar and your neck, and that barrier doesn't transmit enough of the shockwave to rip up your brain, that could be a solution. Maybe Chris can interface her powers with the hard light system or something.

    Malady wrote: Is it just me, or is the first mention of the collars a bit sudden? "namely, trying to figure out how to get out of that stupid collar-"?

    Yeah, it would have flowed a little better if Evan had either noticed the collar when examining his clothes, or if he'd grumbled about "damned compliance collars" or so after the pain finished. My initial assumption since no mention of collars had been made yet was that the room itself was equipped with some sort of pain emitter. Then he started talking about a collar like I already knew it was there, and it was a little jarring. The lack of description about what the collar is like (thick? thin? chartreuse?) makes me think this was an accidental omission.

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  • Hard-Light can't form significant barriers as was described here...
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    “Probably Hard Light imaging,” Swive answered. “Coherent holograms, the latest big thing out of Silicon Valley. A new firm called New Detroit Industries says that they created it, but Industrial Light and Magic, GKI,Sony, Intel, Texas Instruments, and a few other players claim that they’ve had projects just like it on their drawing boards for years. It’s not very efficient, power wise. At commercially feasible levels, all you can do is create a surface that has the hardness of, say, water. But it registers being interrupted. There’s talk about hard light interface replacing screens and keyboards eventually, but not yet. You can make more substantial structures with hard light, but the power costs rise exponentially with the degree of hardness, so it’s not commercially viable yet-if ever. If those ruins are anything more substantial than stage dressing, then they are burning some serious power to do it.”

    “I’ll lay you odds that Vicious offers the hard-light backgrounds to paying customers who want to jazz up their fights,” Iglesias said. “That must cost muy dinero. Congarr must really want to make an impression, to pay for that on top of a 50 K gate fee.”

    These are just set-dressing but they do overlay some real, solid objects (same as Whateley does)... This explains why Blue Max was tearing through the hard-light "obstacles" LOOKING for real blocks to use.

    Knowing where the obstacles were is part of the difficulty the holograms offer... as it mentions Hard Knox knows where they are because he'd studied the ring previously.
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  • It doesn't say they can't form significant barriers, only that it's not commercially viable because the power draw would be so high.

    There were comments among the LEO/MCO/KoP observers about how much power the facility was throwing around to run their extensive hard-light projections; clearly they have a lot of energy available. Making a significant barrier takes exponentially more power than a flimsy one, but the size of the barrier needed to sheath a neck and redirect the explosion outwards is several orders of magnitude smaller than a gladiatorial arena. So, depending on just how these power draws scale, it's entirely possible that the facility has enough raw power to do it.

    My main concern would be whether the hardware itself is up to the job. Most likely they have a bunch of separate emitters covering different chunks of the arena, and since they aren't intended to be used for hard barriers, the individual emitters won't be designed to survive huge amounts of power. Maybe it would be possible to take all those emitters and arrange them so that their projections overlap and reinforce each other, but that might also just cause explosions or unpredictable interference patterns. So if they do use hard-light in this manner, I think they're going to need to incorporate some Dynabullshit to make it work.

    I won't be surprised if hard-light plays into their escape somehow, but I don't think they're going to use it in this manner.

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  • Kettlekorn wrote: It doesn't say they can't form significant barriers, only that it's not commercially viable because the power draw would be so high.


    Sorry, that was perhaps a poor choice of words on my part... I meant it as "Worthy of attention", not significant as in what you were talking about as far as stopping a blast. Sure, if the hardware can handle the load then it's conceivable to generate a hard-light field of sufficient strength to withstand an explosion... but it would be much cheaper power wise, by an enormous amount, to just use a force-field. which is why most hard-light equipment is backed-up by tangible objects underneath or, in some cases, a force-field generator of some sort.

    Even Whateley with its incredible amount of power generation doesn't usually use Hard-light for physical obstacles.
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  • Yep. But the best tool for the job isn't always available. Sometimes you have no other choice but to open your can of beans with a shovel or fight a zombie with a screwdriver. If the Loose Cannons can find themselves a sufficiently flexible force field generator, that would definitely be a preferable way to shield from the blast. Most PFGs we've seen have been of the bubble variety though, with skintight fields mainly being used by the PK types. What they need is the strength of a force field with the customization of hard-light.

    A better strategy is probably to catch Madam Vicious with a surprise group-hug. She's probably not willing to detonate them while they're right up against her own body. Then again, it did sound like the blast was pretty well focused when she fired Cannon, so maybe that's not actually a concern. And of course, she may not be the only person with access to the trigger, in which case the other party might decide she's disposable. Still, I'd give it better odds than figuring out a hard-light shield or getting the correct sort of force field generator.

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  • Chewy.

    "If the only tool you have is a stick, then every problem looks like a kneecap." - Vlad Taltos, via Steven Brust.


    We still don't know what Brigand's real target is.

    Yes, it could be the MDM organisation, but it could also be the rescue of the other inmates. Highly trained survivors/fighters that are being used as gladiator/slaves.

    Ideal recruits from Brigand's perspective, esp. if he's the one that has freed them.
    "Help me free the rest of the slaves!"


    Also this would fit with the theory of the Cannons being sold by Brigand, but the Techie-Psychic not being found. (Her still being with Brigand as back-up, and her being used to de-activate the collar control systems, without them defaulting to Kill-Everyone-To-Remove-Eye-Witnesses-And-Revenge-Seekers.)


    Though this could also be one of the reasons that Brigand had them doing a lot of very flashy activity in public, so as to increase the bounty offered, and to make it more likely that the MDM's organisers and the MDM's financial backers would chase those particular mutants.

    Means that he can use his methods of tracing the payments, as a way of screwing the people financing the MDMs.


    Another thought:

    There will probably be some form of tracing by the MCO's Internal Affairs, for tracking who it was that specified the DFA's.

    Two DFA's being sought by someone who has a grudge against the targets, especially after they have made a very public display of choosing not to kill...

    That will be sending up alarm bells, especially as the recipients are minors...


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  • Mister D wrote:
    Another thought:

    There will probably be some form of tracing by the MCO's Internal Affairs, for tracking who it was that specified the DFA's.

    Two DFA's being sought by someone who has a grudge against the targets, especially after they have made a very public display of choosing not to kill...

    That will be sending up alarm bells, especially as the recipients are minors...


    Slight problem with that point: For the moment, as far as they know, the Cannons are dangerous mercs, with a potential lethality now proven (althouugh the fact they refuse killing also goes against Swine). Sure they'll come down on him once more elements come to shake the precious little phantasm he's feeding the medias, but that won't be an immediate concern.

    And to be frank, if MCO Internal Affairs are there, I'd prefer see their reactions to Mister 'As Long As It Is Official'...
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  • What are the odds that Madame Vicious is a dynamorph host, and, is draining her sex-partner's dynamorphs, whether they are paying customers or not?

    As Wardance said, she doesn't miss a trick...


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  • Darn, but I knew Vicious would want Draconis dead for that trick.

    I really hope they get out of here, but damned if I can see how yet, unless Billy's thieving skills are finally gonna get him somewhere.

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  • I'm switching my guess for Ev from odds mangler to paragon.


    Full marks for well placed Pirates. Now, bonus points if they make their escape with Catlike Tread.

    (Honestly, knowing the Cannons, that's exactly how they'll be escaping, although probably without musical accompaniment.)

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    7 years 4 months ago - 7 years 4 months ago #83 by Hardric
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  • Mister D wrote: What are the odds that Madame Vicious is a dynamorph host, and, is draining her sex-partner's dynamorphs, whether they are paying customers or not?

    As Wardance said, she doesn't miss a trick...


    Wait a second, if that was true (and why not), that could mean...

    *Look at Evan (Eva?)*

    *Look at Vicious*

    *Cheshire grin*

    I really hope something like that happen.

    Anyways, look like Brigand's last chance to pull his twist will be next episode, expecially with the Cannons working so hard to get away by themselves. Schadenfreude batteries? Take aim on Vicious Stain. I want you to begin grinding her to dust the moment her whole world collapses around her.

    Edit: Why exactly, Lupus? Things like the 'Perfect Storm', the mall, and that flower pot rather scream Odds Mangler for me. Although the way her probable ESP works certainly looks like Paragon power indeed.

    Edit 2: there are missing words there: 'like Luke Skywalker was stuck in at the end of .'
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    7 years 4 months ago - 7 years 4 months ago #84 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • Hardric wrote:
    Edit: Why exactly, Lupus? Things like the 'Perfect Storm', the mall, and that flower pot rather scream Odds Mangler for me. Although the way her probable ESP works certainly looks like Paragon power indeed.

    There are a lot of points in favor of odds mangler. But the way she's performing skills without expecting them sounds like a Paragon to me. And it distinctly doesn't sound like something that odds mangling could replicate, but a paragon could unconsciously mimic some odds mangling.

    She could be both, I suppose. But her powerset is already ridiculously broad. On the other hand, maybe she picks up new powers when she drains Dynamorphs?

    Or maybe a third party is manipulating things to help the Cannons survive the MDMs.

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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote:

    Hardric wrote:
    Edit: Why exactly, Lupus? Things like the 'Perfect Storm', the mall, and that flower pot rather scream Odds Mangler for me. Although the way her probable ESP works certainly looks like Paragon power indeed.

    There are a lot of points in favor of odds mangler. But the way she's performing skills without expecting them sounds like a Paragon to me. And it distinctly doesn't sound like something that odds mangling could replicate, but a paragon could unconsciously mimic some odds mangling.

    She could be both, I suppose. But her powerset is already ridiculously broad. On the other hand, maybe she picks up new powers when she drains Dynamorphs?

    Or maybe a third party is manipulating things to help the Cannons survive the MDMs.


    Maybe the draining is a thing. The shield appeared after the fight with the power armors of the Instrumentality, but nah, I firmly think Odd mangling is a thing. Paragon couldn't have created the conditions for their escape, or allowed for one cherry bomb thrown by one totally unknown kid to create the perfect opening to run away. At the basis, initial idea was ESP danger sense for Evan, so Paragon instead of this, maybe?

    That said, the array doesn't seem so ridiculiously large for me: Sword, blast and shield are the same energy manipulation put to different use, probably with the 'telepoortation', odds mangling could have been a thing even before the dyna-host, the Exemplar thing covers the agility, speed reading and the likes, and seem to have been part of the dyna-host implantation process... Okay, now I'm listing it like that, it does make a lot, but they told they were mixing up mutants and dynamorphs, so maybe large power arrays aren't so out of the way. Besides there is the fact they consider Evan as off the charts and want them for further testing.
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  • OMG! The Squid! Did he plan that, or what??

    Ginny POV's super cool!

    ... Techno-Demon's history, like what. How did he get 85% Tech??

    Dynamorph Challenges! ... Anyone stronger than Sunburst??

    I was so thinking the plan would work! :(

    i wonder if they have a spare spare computer...

    There was also that cast, but I forget if that broke or what.

    ... If any of them get Technopathy, that'd get them out?

    Dynamorphs have been mapped to Solar Plexus... Any relation to Chakra points or whatever? ... Do Essence Wells also have such a mapping? Horror for mages if Chaka can make them just spill their Ess.
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  • Obviously the wrong group of people are trying to escape. Crane, Hovis, and the others should be trying to escape.

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  • Am I the only one who kinda wishes Madam V had captured Jade?


    Hmm, mutant death matches, but actually focus on dynamorphs.

    Research lab that tries to create Dynamorphs.

    Wonder if there's more than coincidence at work here.
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  • Hardric wrote: That said, the array doesn't seem so ridiculiously large for me: Sword, blast and shield are the same energy manipulation put to different use, probably with the 'telepoortation', odds mangling could have been a thing even before the dyna-host, the Exemplar thing covers the agility, speed reading and the likes, and seem to have been part of the dyna-host implantation process... Okay, now I'm listing it like that, it does make a lot, but they told they were mixing up mutants and dynamorphs, so maybe large power arrays aren't so out of the way. Besides there is the fact they consider Evan as off the charts and want them for further testing.


    Oooh, that's a good point! I could see Evan being a odds mangler/paragon mutant, and then the odds mangling drew him into the dynamorph experiment, where he ended up gaining a second set of powers on top of the first set.

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  • annachie wrote: Am I the only one who kinda wishes Madam V had captured Jade?


    Hmm, mutant death matches, but actually focus on dynamorphs.

    Research lab that tries to create Dynamorphs.

    Wonder if there's more than coincidence at work here.


    That's a cruel cruel thing to wish on Madam V.

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  • No, that's just deserts.

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  • Iwasforger03 wrote: No, that's just deserts.


    Nevada is known for having a dry climate.

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  • I wonder if the Syndicate has any sort of mechanism to address complaints of... FALSE ADVERTISING?
    I mean, Madam V. advertises her thing as "The Real Mutant Death Matches." Thing is, they AREN'T'. It seems like 80% of her gladiators are Dyna-Hosts, not mutants.

    Anyway... busy week, I only managed to finish this chapter yesterday and only posted today. But during one of those short, ill-slept nights, the sort of which you aren't really sure if you are dreaming, lucid dreaming or just exhausted and imagining insane stuff, somehow a few silly ideas regarding the ending of this story came to mind... look for them in the Micro Scenes thread.

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  • Also aren't 80% of the "mutant death matches" in Vegas actually the broadcasts from Whateley?

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  • Not much to say that hasn't already been addressed (aside from my blaming of Brandon Sanderson for taking so long to get around to this latest part).

    I'm definitely thinking of Ev as a Paragon, but the likely mangling cannot be ignored either.

    Kinda sad to see Draconis gone, but up until then I was thinking of her and Wardance as being paid off by Vicious to mess up escape attempts.

    Looking forward to seeing such things as the end of Vicious, Brigand's return, and the LVPD/MCO/KoP looking like fools again in the final part.

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  • Wow!

    I can't really think of anything else to say, that wouldn't reveal spoilers.

    Wow! :D


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  • It was tense, at the beginning, but all those reveals were great and the comedy was funny!

    That phonecall. Like. WOW. Is that Luck? Or just coincidence??

    And we got Techno-demon's history. OMG, that's terrible. :(

    How much luck backlash might have affected that mirror??

    That ship! So much feels!

    ... So, how strong is Evan now?? Meh.

    What I really wonder about now, is what a Dyna-host looks like in the Astral.
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  • Bunny's Mom calls Whateley...I wonder if this might get them involved?

    Possibly a certain Lion might also contact Whateley, or one of the Alumni to inquire about the shenanigans.

    In the end reality is only consensual! It means that Al Gore is causing "Global Warming" by his rhetoric alone! Fortunately, there are enough Global Warming "Deniers" still about to keep him from boiling the planet.

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  • So, AWESOME. They got bigger.

    They got everyone but rick out alive.

    They got power ups. They made enemies. Evan, on national TV, got a LOT of people questioning the fact that the KOP did NOT want to take her in peacefully... and she offered her fingerprint to the world and Swive made sure it got destroyed.

    I hope he missed a trick and they'll find a bunch more fingerprints tracing back to the kids themselves from Marty Sammish. It'll be great, but also maybe not. But awesome. I'm pulling for this next one to be even more awesome.

    Look out Colorado.

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    Alright, how long have you been sitting on that pun?

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  • Swine officially entered stormy weather zone here. I mean, objecting to a reddition live? That bulle right on the fingerprint? Eva just torpedoed his little ship... Unless 'As Long As It Is Official' don't ruin it in some way.

    That was a kick-ass final for the story (I just had to have rock music playing all along while I was reading), and I'm curious to know how they will top it at Denver... And Chicago... And hopefully Whateley someday. For all of them.

    That said, Vicious Stain feels not antique but careful to me with the files. My computer shut down one too many times to trust it completely, and anyone working or studying Arcives and records management can tell you electronic storage isn't the panacea.

    And congrats to everyone making the Brigand call... meaning probably everyone knowing the character. ;)
    7 years 4 months ago #108 by Sir Lee
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  • Some highlights:
    - Leo the Lion entering a quip-fu competition with Evan.
    - HeroWatch (hopefully) calling Swive on Evan's bet
    - We finally find what is Yvonne's power (although it's not clear how Vicious figured it out.)
    - The Cannons acquire a few more tag-alongs -- except that these ones don't seem to be teens. I wonder how much they are willing to take cues from kids...
    - Evan/the Cannons acquired yet ANOTHER nemesis
    - The Cannons now are becoming more widely notable. Yes, we have the first official confirmation that their names reached Whateley (via Bunny), but -- given past troubles with bootleg Combat Finals broadcasts -- how much would you bet that Hartford monitored Madam Vicious' operations?
    - And we get the name of next story. I just hope we don't have to wait another five years for it...

    Don't call me "Shirley." You will surely make me surly.
    7 years 4 months ago #109 by annachie
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  • So. Who here thinks Brigand had a few bikes stashed around the casino for Evan. Just in case.


    I'm starting to agree that Evan is a Paragon and Exemplar with a Dyna that gives him/her warper abilities. Including aome probability warping.

    Wouldn't be suprised if he's transitioning from male to female due to mutation, but warping to the end point some how.
    7 years 4 months ago #110 by Mister D
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  • I had a thought that would segue into an effective retcon for
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    7 years 4 months ago #111 by Arcanist Lupus
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  • Sir Lee wrote: - Leo the Lion entering a quip-fu competition with Evan.

    Maybe they've both taken ranks in Dashing Swords(wo)man ?

    "Shared pain is lessened; shared joy, increased — thus do we refute entropy." - Spider Robinson
    7 years 4 months ago #112 by Anne
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  • Mister D wrote: I had a thought that would segue into an effective retcon for

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    7 years 4 months ago #113 by Iwasforger03
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  • Arcanist Lupus wrote:

    Sir Lee wrote: - Leo the Lion entering a quip-fu competition with Evan.

    Maybe they've both taken ranks in Dashing Swords(wo)man ?


    If Evan hasn't, he's working on her prereqs...

    Somebody earlier mentioned that turning back and forth like this could be caused by Evan's dynamorph superpowering their gradual exemplar mutant transformation.

    I think more than one of these kids is a mutant. The first story mentions that the whole point of the experiment was to use "non-manifested adolescent mutants" to kickstart Dynamorph growth.

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    7 years 4 months ago #114 by Sir Lee
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  • The first story was a bit unclear regarding this. The cover story was that they were "unmanifested mutants", but then they remember that there is no known test for figuring out if a mutant will manifest or not (except for the Marquis predicting Kaylie would manifest, but that might have been a form of Precog). And later Mr. Bland explains that they specifically selected for "losers" and "troublemakers".
    So:
    1- Does Mr. Bland have a way to detect pre-manifestation mutants? If so, they might have goofed in Evan's case, since he appeared to have already manifested as an odds mangler or something.
    2- Are them, in fact, desirable for their purposes of incubating dynamorphs?
    3- Were there enough pre-manifestation mutants in a single high school that they could choose twelve "losers" from them?

    I would suggest an alternative explanation, Bek can say if I'm right, wrong or keep us wondering.
    My idea is that it's not pre-manifestation mutants, but merely the presence of the MGC that they were looking for. That would fit much better:
    1- Detecting the MCG is merely a well-understood matter of DNA analysis -- granted, it takes a considerable time in our reality, but they might have devises to speed it up. It would explain including Evan, too: apparently an active and an inactive MCG look the same.
    2-Does it help in incubating the dynamorphs? Maybe.
    3-Inactive MGC is fairly common, I believe one sixth of the population has it on average? So, choosing a dozen from 1/6 of a few hundred wouldn't be hard.

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    7 years 4 months ago - 7 years 4 months ago #115 by Malady
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  • Sir Lee wrote: apparently an active and an inactive MCG look the same.


    What? That's weird...

    crystalhall.wikia.com/wiki/Mutant#Meta-gene_complex

    It should be noted that while there is no "mutant test", it is possible to genetically test to see if the meta-gene complex is active. While there are people with an active complex who don't have super powers, all mutants with measurable abilities have an active complex.

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    7 years 4 months ago #116 by Sir Lee
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  • I stand corrected.

    Don't call me "Shirley." You will surely make me surly.
    7 years 4 months ago #117 by MM2ss
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  • Sounds more like they went looking for people with an active MGC, but who had not been identified as active mutants. Or maybe they were using some older tech during their search for "recruits" that only showed the MGC instead of showing active vs inactive. Then, they may have been able to identify active MGC's and just waited a bit to see if any were registered with the MCO or showed obvious signs of mutant abilities.

    Of those, the "used out of date gear" scenario appeals to me the most. But I am willing to wait for some more background stories to find out for sure what went down.
    7 years 4 months ago #118 by Sir Lee
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  • Looking for an active MCG and ignoring the possibility that one of those kids might have a power that throws their plans out of whack (such as Evan's apparent odds mangling) would be really poor planning.

    But the other possibility that you mention might be very close to the heart of the issue. Remember, Mr. Bland was using gear built by Dr. Pygmalion... which they somehow got after Dr. Pyg was arrested. I very much doubt that they came with all the user manuals. Maybe they simply haven't figured out how to exclude active MCGs from their filtering...

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  • Or even more simply, forgot that something as stressful as the kidnapping/experiment might actually trigger a manifestation.
    7 years 4 months ago #120 by Valentine
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  • Or they were just looking for 12 kids they could disappear, and there are no requirements to grow a Dynomorph. The story told the kids was just smoke.

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    7 years 3 months ago - 7 years 3 months ago #121 by konzill
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  • Overall I really liked this story, it built nicely and the major characters powered up in an interesting way. But I thought the Mutant Deathmatch section did drag on a bit. Having the guest gladiators described one after the other was somewhat boring, all description and no action, and then the most of the deathmatches felt like action for action's sake. I ended up skimming much of that section.

    *EDIT* also in Evan's little insult contest with the Lion, who is saying what? That section could really have used a few action beats or at least speech tags.

    *Edit2* But to end this on a positive note the references to existing Whateley students had me laughing, especial Bunny's mom calling her at 1 am. I hereby declare this to be a Chekhov gun and expect it to get fired eventually.
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    7 years 3 months ago - 7 years 3 months ago #122 by Anne
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  • Chekhov's gun? It's a semi-auto so I understand! :lol:
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    7 years 3 months ago #123 by Bek D Corbin
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    7 years 3 months ago #124 by annachie
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  • konzill wrote: Having the guest gladiators described one after the other


    ... is just Bek. Same with the numbers of them.

    I hereby declare this to be a Chekhov gun and expect it to get fired eventually.


    You expect a story where Bunny gets an important, nay deadly, phone call in the middle of the night?

    I think it was just a future plot hook.
    7 years 3 months ago #125 by E M Pisek
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  • Umm, no.

    As they Say. This is my weapon, this is my gun. This is for shooting, and this is WAHOOOO!!!! This is for fun.

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  • annachie wrote:
    You expect a story where Bunny gets an important, nay deadly, phone call in the middle of the night?

    I think it was just a future plot hook.


    No, I expect Bunny and Hexblade to eventually have that conversation. Which in turn implies that the Loose canons eventually make it to Whateley, hell at the rate they are going they might even have enough money to cover tuition by then.

    Either way, I'm looking forward to their next adventures, even if it is just to see how many more nemesises Hexblade can pick up.
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  • Hmm... I think that phone call might have happened already, but I'm not sure...

    So, it's Friday, April 6th, 2007, at the end of Part 3, so the LC's first fight is presumably the following Sunday... And Evan wakes up then, so Part 4 likely starts on Sunday, April 8th.

    I'm not counting the fights, but I think it's... 4 / 5... 6 at most... In any case, they leave Vegas before May... So, to find that call from Bunny's mom... Somewhere in the latter half of April... And anything there is mainly Kayda stuff... So we won't see anything? ... Hmm... Gonna say that the LC's first term is the Summer Term.

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  • Malady wrote: So, Chapter 1 is near the end of March... How many weeks has it been since then? ... Each round of fights is a week, right? Since Bunny's still at school, Chapter 6 is before summer? I can't find mention of Bunny talking about her mom in Veni, Vidi, Cutie , so the next step is going backwards...


    No, Malady, the fights were bi-weekly, on Wednesdays and Sundays. I didn't want to slow the Cannons down that much
    7 years 3 months ago #129 by Anne
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  • E M Pisek wrote: Umm, no.

    As they Say. This is my weapon, this is my gun. This is for shooting, and this is WAHOOOO!!!! This is for fun.


    As the captain of my basic training company said once, 'if something isn't getting hard when you're shooting, you don't belong in the army...' or something to that effect. Probably a bit more crude, but shooting has always been almost the most fun I could have outside of WHOOPIEEEE!
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  • "Star Witch" from Part 6 ...

    one particular beautiful- and deadly- woman. It took him the better part of an hour, but he finally spotted her. She was dressed in a white silk dress that elegantly straddled casual and evening wear, and suited her ‘Grace Kelly’ blonde good looks


    Not the same one from the Silver Ghost series?

    She appeared 30 back in the sixties, as said in Silver Linings :

    The Star Witch dropped out of sight, like, thirty years ago [...] a picture of a reasonably attractive, athletic woman in her early 30s appeared


    So if it's the same one, she's gotta be 60-70, now... But, Dyna-morph... Anti-aging properties, right? Look at " Sunburst ": "seems immune to aging, still appearing to be in her twenties despite being at least forty years older"

    ----

    Also, from Part 3 ... Is "Brillante" supposed to be Brilliante ?
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