Question Speculat about the Gen 2 Whateleyverse

Okay, so we were talking announcement and discussion, and the thread is becoming what this one's title says - speculation about the Whateleyverse in Gen 2. So - have at it.

I bet that - Whateley has been moved to Vermont! By space aliens. And huge spaceships with tractor beams

I thought we'd decided that the mole men took the school subterranean.

Global warming has finally occurred and Whateley is now beach front property.
I heard it from a very good source.

Morpheus wrote: I thought we'd decided that the mole men took the school subterranean.

No, we changed that, remember?

We decided they were just going to kidnap half of the student body instead, turning them into super-powered half-mole slaves to bolster their army with in preparation for taking over the world.

the whole planet is mutated--and whateley is for the only normal kids --that have no powers!

No Fun Guy is now Headmaster/misress.

I get the feeling that the Gen Two authors were all bursting from having to stay silent about Gen Two and are now giddy with release ...

Alternatively they are mad as hatters ... Wait, what? They are normally like this?

OK, nothing to see here then, move along, move along.

H1 and Ev rocks merged into one "can we all just get along" organization...

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: I get the feeling that the Gen Two authors were all bursting from having to stay silent about Gen Two and are now giddy with release ...

Alternatively they are mad as hatters ... Wait, what? They are normally like this?

OK, nothing to see here then, move along, move along.

Yes. By the way, the best Gen2 speculation is on Elrod finally coming clean about Locutus, the borg in his closet.

Rev. Englaeiound is Pope.

No one ever figured which one was Dismiss and which one was Wiggle.

The storys actualy take place at the Mars Campus of Whateley Acadamy. When the class of 2016 graduates their class legacy will be a blue sky on Mars

The giddiness could have made them mad as a hatter.
Or being mad as hatters has made them about to explode from giddiness.

There WILL be a new recreational sport with leagues and competitions, and club of hard-core members of the sport. It will be played in Arena 99 and outdoors (weather permitting). It's only peripherally related to the plot (I think).

Moving the discussion of whose in charge, here is my idea.
I have it on very good authority that Ito is the headmaster and Eldritch is second in command. They're the only ones that survived Gen 1.

Domoviye wrote: Moving the discussion of whose in charge, here is my idea.
I have it on very good authority that Ito is the headmaster and Eldritch is second in charge. They're the only ones that survived Gen 1.

Dang...Ito's still around when even Carson isn't? He's an ornery little fellow, isn't he?

He's the evil little bastard, something more than a mystical nuke is needed to kill him.

NeoMagus wrote:

Domoviye wrote: Moving the discussion of whose in charge, here is my idea.
I have it on very good authority that Ito is the headmaster and Eldritch is second in charge. They're the only ones that survived Gen 1.

Dang...Ito's still around when even Carson isn't? He's an ornery little fellow, isn't he?

no, he is an evil midget. so says No Fun Guy.

Morpheus wrote: I thought we'd decided that the mole men took the school subterranean.

Enough of the school is already subterranean that many students probably wouldn't notice the difference.

BEHOLD! The UNDERMINER!

I am beneath you, but there is nothing beneath me! I declare WAR on peace and happiness!!!!

Low blow.

That sinking feeling when you realize your plot ideas have the instant approval of the author and creator of Kayda.

Neo is feeling this now. Let us pray for him, and for his character, for the implications are most dire!

(The imp-plications too!)

Nagrij wrote: That sinking feeling when you realize your plot ideas have the instant approval of the author and creator of Kayda.

Neo is feeling this now. Let us pray for him, and for his character, for the implications are most dire!

Well in all fairness, it wasn't INSTANT approval...he did need some convincing...

You aren't fooling me. Hashing out details is nothing like using the Kayd-o-meter (patent pending) to scan for angst worthy enough. Yours passed, and you know it.

Nagrij wrote: You aren't fooling me. Hashing out details is nothing like using the Kayd-o-meter (patent pending) to scan for angst worthy enough. Yours passed, and you know it.

I've got you guys beat.
He's told me I'm too angsty and to lighten up because I'm committing cruel and unusual acts against my characters.

Domoviye wrote:

Nagrij wrote: You aren't fooling me. Hashing out details is nothing like using the Kayd-o-meter (patent pending) to scan for angst worthy enough. Yours passed, and you know it.

I've got you guys beat.
He's told me I'm too angsty and to lighten up because I'm committing cruel and unusual acts against my characters.

That's like Scrooge bragging his chains are bigger than Marley's...

Domoviye wrote: I've got you guys beat.
He's told me I'm too angsty and to lighten up because I'm committing cruel and unusual acts against my characters.

I'm not so sure there, Dom. I seem to recall you were rather shocked at what I did to Kota in your Fate Sucks story, so you know I can at least compare with you.

Not that that's actually my intent, but still...

E. E. Nalley wrote: That's like Scrooge bragging his chains are bigger than Marley's...

Ouch...kind of hurts when you put it that way...

lmao.

Got you all beat in the angstometer anyway. Mary, anyone?

Thanks for playing.

E. E. Nalley wrote: That's like Scrooge bragging his chains are bigger than Marley's...

So - are you saying that maybe Scrooge has a bad case of "chain size anxiety"?

Domoviye wrote:

Nagrij wrote: You aren't fooling me. Hashing out details is nothing like using the Kayd-o-meter (patent pending) to scan for angst worthy enough. Yours passed, and you know it.

I've got you guys beat.
He's told me I'm too angsty and to lighten up because I'm committing cruel and unusual acts against my characters.

I think what I said is that I'm giving up on competing with you in the angst department.

But I've also seen where Dom is going on another venture, and both the angst-factor and the squick-factor are way, way down. I think he's going for the loveable, huggable teddy-Dom feeling

I did worry slightly when Elrod said I was being too nasty to my character, but then I thought nahhh, you cant be too nasty....

elrodw wrote:

Domoviye wrote:

Nagrij wrote: You aren't fooling me. Hashing out details is nothing like using the Kayd-o-meter (patent pending) to scan for angst worthy enough. Yours passed, and you know it.

I've got you guys beat.
He's told me I'm too angsty and to lighten up because I'm committing cruel and unusual acts against my characters.

I think what I said is that I'm giving up on competing with you in the angst department.

But I've also seen where Dom is going on another venture, and both the angst-factor and the squick-factor are way, way down. I think he's going for the loveable, huggable teddy-Dom feeling

Come on you're ruining my street cred here.

Nagrij wrote: lmao.

Got you all beat in the angstometer anyway. Mary, anyone?

Thanks for playing.

I've had two main characters killed in the second last chapters of their stories. One of them was beheaded in front of his pregnant girlfriend, and the other was a teen mom gunned down while holding her baby.
For tormenting characters while leaving them alive, poor, poor Ruth. Dear god I ran that boy through the wringer.
And you haven't seen what I've got planned for Glitch. That poor bastard.

Domoviye wrote:

elrodw wrote:

Domoviye wrote:

Nagrij wrote: You aren't fooling me. Hashing out details is nothing like using the Kayd-o-meter (patent pending) to scan for angst worthy enough. Yours passed, and you know it.

I've got you guys beat.
He's told me I'm too angsty and to lighten up because I'm committing cruel and unusual acts against my characters.

I think what I said is that I'm giving up on competing with you in the angst department.

But I've also seen where Dom is going on another venture, and both the angst-factor and the squick-factor are way, way down. I think he's going for the loveable, huggable teddy-Dom feeling

Come on you're ruining my street cred here.

Nagrij wrote: lmao.

Got you all beat in the angstometer anyway. Mary, anyone?

Thanks for playing.

I've had two main characters killed in the second last chapters of their stories. One of them was beheaded in front of his pregnant girlfriend, and the other was a teen mom gunned down while holding her baby.
For tormenting characters while leaving them alive, poor, poor Ruth. Dear god I ran that boy through the wringer.
And you haven't seen what I've got planned for Glitch. That poor bastard.

Lifes a Glitch and then you die.

Dom, dom, dom.... *shakes his head*

No, I won't spoil. Don't worry, you'll soon see.

Along with the Sidhe, real Dwarves start appearing at Whateley.

On a related note the incidence of "Hi Ho" related assaults climbs dramatically.

There's an invasion of Potter fans, either demanding to book the simulators on a weekly basis for Quidditch tournaments or nagging the Devisors to build them flying broomsticks. An expy of a certain diminutive fanfic character is cast as the Snitch.

More probable is that AJG Consolidated is a large multinational, but seldom heard of outside investor circles as by then it'll largely be a holding company, with the companies / products it owns retaining their branding. All the 'traditional' cottages will have been extended, and will be connected to the tunnel network. Some of the above-ground teaching facilities may have been redesigned and/or extended. Among the more conventional subjects on the curriculum, the head of the art department will no doubt leave a lasting impression on her students, and on the walls may be a parody of Paramount's portrait (we know students have to pay it a visit, but what about staff?). Within Poe Cottage, "Kimba" may be a synonym for craziness, although of course no-one (other than Bella if she's still the House Parent) will have met the Kimbas themselves - their most prominent escapades may have passed into legend, and the details as recounted bearing little resemblance to reality.

An honest to the gods actual moment in Gen 2's weekly chat, just now.

Astrodragon: "This is all your characters fault!"

Neomagus: "Is not!"

Astrodragon: "Is too!"

Me: "I'm totally posting this."

Nagrij wrote: An honest to the gods actual moment in Gen 2's weekly chat, just now.

Astrodragon: "This is all your characters fault!"

Neomagus: "Is not!"

Astrodragon: "Is too!"

Me: "I'm totally posting this."

Hmm.... .... So... something that is, or could be, Invictus's fault, but there's no blaming Dragonsfyre, or anyone else...

I have no idea why I guess it's the idea of blaming your partner or something, but I'm that's got me thinking teen pregnancy...

Any other bets on what was being talked about?

Also, you guys have weekly chats?!

We've had at least weekly chats for over a year to plan this. I have the log files to prove it.

You know the line - if I show you .....
They have a lot of secret stuff in them

Nagrij wrote: An honest to the gods actual moment in Gen 2's weekly chat, just now.

Astrodragon: "This is all your characters fault!"

Neomagus: "Is not!"

Astrodragon: "Is too!"

Me: "I'm totally posting this."

And to think this is all over an empty coffee pot in Sensei Ito's office.

So? Is it true they really broke the multiverse and now the forth wall is all messed up?
.........I wandered what that big thing watching us was!

Malady wrote:
Hmm.... .... So... something that is, or could be, Invictus's fault, but there's no blaming Dragonsfyre, or anyone else...

I have no idea why I guess it's the idea of blaming your partner or something, but I'm that's got me thinking teen pregnancy...

Any other bets on what was being talked about?

Also, you guys have weekly chats?!

Am I the only one who's mildly disturbed that Malady jumped to TEEN PREGNANCY from comments about two female characters?

NeoMagus wrote:

Malady wrote:
Hmm.... .... So... something that is, or could be, Invictus's fault, but there's no blaming Dragonsfyre, or anyone else...

I have no idea why I guess it's the idea of blaming your partner or something, but I'm that's got me thinking teen pregnancy...

Any other bets on what was being talked about?

Also, you guys have weekly chats?!

Am I the only one who's mildly disturbed that Malady jumped to TEEN PREGNANCY from comments about two female characters?

Um no. Given its Whateley, devisors and whatnot the only thing I would find strange is if they had a day where 'nothing' strange happened. But then that would be a strange occurrence in itself.

Now about that coffee pot. It wasn't empty, it was housing Ito's essence for a rainy day and wants it back.

NeoMagus wrote: Am I the only one who's mildly disturbed that Malady jumped to TEEN PREGNANCY from comments about two female characters?

As the in universe saying goes "Its Whateley, stranger things have happened, this year." Granded that last qualifier may not apply on the first day.

NeoMagus wrote:

Malady wrote:
Hmm.... .... So... something that is, or could be, Invictus's fault, but there's no blaming Dragonsfyre, or anyone else...

I have no idea why I guess it's the idea of blaming your partner or something, but I'm that's got me thinking teen pregnancy...

Any other bets on what was being talked about?

Also, you guys have weekly chats?!

Am I the only one who's mildly disturbed that Malady jumped to TEEN PREGNANCY from comments about two female characters?

I thought Invictus was a guy... The codename just feels masculine to me... All Roman and meaning 'Unconquerable'... Gender Bias-thing at work?

I totally missed her real name, "Tanya Wright". I was just scanning like: "Neomagus, Neomagus... There! Invictus!" and I guess "your mother's replacement" wasn't a big enough hint.

EDIT: So, Neo, is your Purple-Hair Girl Forum Pic supposed to be Invictus, like how Elrod and Astrodragon have what is obviously their characters as their profile pic? Well, yes, it makes sense to assume that it is, but it's not true for everyone, and I wouldn't want to assume.

konzill wrote:

NeoMagus wrote: Am I the only one who's mildly disturbed that Malady jumped to TEEN PREGNANCY from comments about two female characters?

As the in universe saying goes "Its Whateley, stranger things have happened, this year." Granded that last qualifier may not apply on the first day.

Depends upon the time of the day.

You know, all this weird speculation is only encouraging me.

Just saying.

Malady wrote:


I thought Invictus was a guy... The codename just feels masculine to me... All Roman and meaning 'Unconquerable'... Gender Bias-thing at work?

Oops...my bad then, Malady.

Although I guess I should be happy that my attempt to keep Invictus/Tanya's intro blurb somewhat ambiguous actually worked out, perhaps just a bit too well...

What? No speculation about how Glyph fits into this family drama?

NeoMagus wrote:

Malady wrote:


I thought Invictus was a guy... The codename just feels masculine to me... All Roman and meaning 'Unconquerable'... Gender Bias-thing at work?

Oops...my bad then, Malady.

Although I guess I should be happy that my attempt to keep Invictus/Tanya's intro blurb somewhat ambiguous actually worked out, perhaps just a bit too well...

So, Neo, is your Purple-Hair Girl Forum Pic supposed to be Invictus, like how Elrod and Astrodragon have what is obviously their characters as their profile pics? I could assume that it is, but it's not true for everyone in the announcement, and I wouldn't want to assume.

elrodw wrote: We've had at least weekly chats for over a year to plan this. I have the log files to prove it.

You know the line - if I show you .....
They have a lot of secret stuff in them

So that's what happened to Grey Bean. He did sound awfully worried about something he'd read when I last heard from him.

Malady wrote:
So, Neo, is your Purple-Hair Girl Forum Pic supposed to be Invictus, like how Elrod and Astrodragon have what is obviously their characters as their profile pics? I could assume that it is, but it's not true for everyone in the announcement, and I wouldn't want to assume.

Actually, yes, Malady. My avatar pic IS supposed to be Invictus, although it's a year or two down the line from what her appearance is at the start of the 2016 school year.

Oh, and for the record, it's not purple...IT'S LAVENDER!!!

it's totally purple. Mainly because if I call it purple than neo gets upset.

So... anyone want to guess if my avatar picture is of my character?

Bets? Anyone? Bueller?

I'm going to guess your avatar is not of your character, Nagrij. Unless Luke Del Bosque is a crossdressing, undead female-looking character.

Nagrij wrote: it's totally purple. Mainly because if I call it purple than neo gets upset.

So... anyone want to guess if my avatar picture is of my character?

Bets? Anyone? Bueller?

I'm gonna bet 'No' or maybe 'Yes'? 'Cause that doesn't look like a "Luke Del Bosque" to me... But then again... You're "taking tropes and smashing them to teeny tiny bits… then smashing the bits into powder" so I'm gonna Subversions and Zig-zagged Tropes, so I'm not gonna make a stable bet, 'cause it could be that he... or she or whatever, so that might actually be "Luke Del Bosque"... and doesn't pick a girl's name for some reason... Or it is a girl, but has a constant illusion of a guy who registers as "Luke Del Bosque"...

Stranger things may have happened.

Dreamer wrote: I'm going to guess your avatar is not of your character, Nagrij. Unless Luke Del Bosque is a crossdressing, undead female-looking character.

Keep in mind that this IS the Whateley Universe we're talking about here...

Names that fit at one moment may not in the next.

Heh, heh, heh.

All too easy.

Nagrij wrote: Heh, heh, heh.

All too easy.

Meaning the name could mean anything for your concept and the avatar is of your character. Or you are messing with those who think the avatar is of your character and it isn't of your character. Either way you get to mess with our heads until Luke appears in a story. Cheeky little devil

Dreamer wrote: Cheeky little devil

That he is, yes.

Ib12us wrote: Um no. Given its Whateley, devisors and whatnot the only thing I would find strange is if they had a day where 'nothing' strange happened. But then that would be a strange occurrence in itself.

Am I allowed to steal this? I have a super idea for a micro-scene.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Ib12us wrote: Um no. Given its Whateley, devisors and whatnot the only thing I would find strange is if they had a day where 'nothing' strange happened. But then that would be a strange occurrence in itself.

Am I allowed to steal this? I have a super idea for a micro-scene.

Um, maybe. I've been given a lot of free stuff lately. But umm maybe. T'whats it worth to ya?

Could use a new bag of M&M's. With peanuts of course.

Edit: And I'll need the green ones too. Helps to counteract the stuff I was given.

Edit2: Go ahead. Who am I to stop creativity for a bag of nuts.

NeoMagus wrote:

Dreamer wrote: I'm going to guess your avatar is not of your character, Nagrij. Unless Luke Del Bosque is a crossdressing, undead female-looking character.

Keep in mind that this IS the Whateley Universe we're talking about here...

Names that fit at one moment may not in the next.

No, no, no, that's not Nagrij's character, that's his muse. You know, the one that he's claimed has the biggest case of ADHD this side of the Punic Wars. I'm guessing the truth is finally coming out... or he preformed some forbidden muse ritual to keep her on task for more than 1 story.

Malady wrote: I thought Invictus was a guy... The codename just feels masculine to me... All Roman and meaning 'Unconquerable'... Gender Bias-thing at work?

Come to think of it, I never took Latin, but I do think that "-us is a male suffix, and the corresponding female suffix would be "-a"; therefore, the feminine form of "Invictus" is probably "Invicta." But I'm not really sure, I would have to find someone who really understands this stuff.

But, even if I'm correct, there might be a good in-story reason for that. Or maybe it will be an in-joke, with other characters constantly pointing this out to her on being introduced. I'll have to wait and see.

Sir Lee wrote:

Malady wrote: I thought Invictus was a guy... The codename just feels masculine to me... All Roman and meaning 'Unconquerable'... Gender Bias-thing at work?

Come to think of it, I never took Latin, but I do think that "-us is a male suffix, and the corresponding female suffix would be "-a"; therefore, the feminine form of "Invictus" is probably "Invicta." But I'm not really sure, I would have to find someone who really understands this stuff.

But, even if I'm correct, there might be a good in-story reason for that. Or maybe it will be an in-joke, with other characters constantly pointing this out to her on being introduced. I'll have to wait and see.

yahoo answers gives:

invicta
Roma invicta multas provincias habet = unvanquished Rome has many provinces. The Latin noun "Roma" is feminine and singular and "invicta" has to agree in gender and number with "Roma" and also be feminine and singular. The noun "Roma" is also in the nominative case, used here for the subject of the verb "habet" (has). So "invicta" is the feminine singular nominative form of "invictus".

But how many people nowadays know that?
I can imagine a few people pointing it out, but most would just assume it's a cool codename.

My Brother theoretically learned Latin while going to the Lady Margaret Roper Academy in Fort Worth, and he agrees that the correct feminine form would be Invicta. Of course, that doesn't mean that Invictus knows that. Good thing neither Ayla or Jadis is likely to run into her.

Dawnfyre wrote:

Sir Lee wrote:

Malady wrote: I thought Invictus was a guy... The codename just feels masculine to me... All Roman and meaning 'Unconquerable'... Gender Bias-thing at work?

Come to think of it, I never took Latin, but I do think that "-us is a male suffix, and the corresponding female suffix would be "-a"; therefore, the feminine form of "Invictus" is probably "Invicta." But I'm not really sure, I would have to find someone who really understands this stuff.

But, even if I'm correct, there might be a good in-story reason for that. Or maybe it will be an in-joke, with other characters constantly pointing this out to her on being introduced. I'll have to wait and see.

yahoo answers gives:

invicta
Roma invicta multas provincias habet = unvanquished Rome has many provinces. The Latin noun "Roma" is feminine and singular and "invicta" has to agree in gender and number with "Roma" and also be feminine and singular. The noun "Roma" is also in the nominative case, used here for the subject of the verb "habet" (has). So "invicta" is the feminine singular nominative form of "invictus".

Sheesh...that'll teach me to check my sources, won't it?

But then again, as Sir Lee pointed out, you guys don't know all the details yet...though I can suggest that you all go look a little closer at the intro I gave for Tanya if you REALLY want to try and find the significance of her codename.

NeoMagus wrote: But then again, as Sir Lee pointed out, you guys don't know all the details yet...though I can suggest that you all go look a little closer at the intro I gave for Tanya if you REALLY want to try and find the significance of her codename.

I think it is more fun speculating when we have actual stories to start from.

But then again, as Sir Lee pointed out, you guys don't know all the details yet...though I can suggest that you all go look a little closer at the intro I gave for Tanya if you REALLY want to try and find the significance of her codename.

I think it is more fun speculating when we have actual stories to start from.

Naw, too much regulation is bad for business

*releases the zombies from their cage to roam all over the thread*

Domoviye wrote: But how many people nowadays know that?
I can imagine a few people pointing it out, but most would just assume it's a cool codename.

Well, not that many, but some for sure. For starters, most Astérix fans... yeah, I know it's not that popular in the U.S., but there are a lot of Europeans at Whateley. Catholic clergy would sure notice. The better class of Romance-language teachers who bothered to learn a bit about Latin. A few biologists who spend way too much time thinking about how to name newly discovered species. Fans of the Rome TV series. Roman History buffs in general. Philip José Farmer fans who bothered to decypher the bilingual puns in his Aquila series. Whateley students who chose a poor student codename (case in point: Quickie) and are doing a lot of research to get the perfect adult codename.

My point being, none of these groups is huge, but when you add all of them together, you get maybe... 2% of the Whateley population at least? That's one in fifty; how long do you think you could go before running into one of them? There are enough of them to notice that there is something odd about the name that I think it would get pointed out pretty soon, I think.

Definitely pointed out eventually, but at first when she's coming up with the code name, most people she knows would probably just say cool.
After that it's a bit late, and she'll have to deal with it.

*picks the cage lock and releases the zombies again, getting them to chant: "cerebris, cerebris!"*

Nagrij wrote: *picks the cage lock and releases the zombies again, getting them to chant: "cerebris, cerebris!"*

Throws out danish cheese puffs with doodles. Herds group towards bottomless pit with elevator music from old forgotten musicians. Who was Mick Jagger anyway as with David Cassidy?

Ib12us wrote:

Nagrij wrote: *picks the cage lock and releases the zombies again, getting them to chant: "cerebris, cerebris!"*

Throws out danish cheese puffs with doodles. Herds group towards bottomless pit with elevator music from old forgotten musicians. Who was Mick Jagger anyway as with David Cassidy?

David Cassidy forgotten? Inconceivable! Come on, get happy!

I haven't actually read any of the character blurbs and do not intend to (spoiler avoidance). But given the codename, it is my hope that Invictus eventually finds herself the captain of a ship named Soul.

NeoMagus wrote: Am I the only one who's mildly disturbed that Malady jumped to TEEN PREGNANCY from comments about two female characters?

Well, one of my pet theories is that Malachi is an illegitimate son of Emperor Wilkins by way of Dr. Diabolik, so who am I to think that's strange?

Kristin Darken wrote: As a side note... my avatar is NOT my Gen 2 character. However, the pic I used for the Gen 2 announcement IS. It also happens to be a 'powers in use' pic. Probably circa Sophomore year.

I'm really looking forward to your character, in part because I want to see how similar he is to one of my powerset ideas, which goes by the codename Steadfast.

Hmm... Just thought of this today:

What if Jade and Thuban are single-handedly responsible for Japan's change in stance on mutation?

'Cause Jade's a Japanese Gadgeteer, and possibly crazy enough to be famous enough to do such a thing. ... And Thuban's rich and powerful.

Jade is a "Devisor", not a gadgeteer. But yes, I could see her being very popular in Japan. Probably not enough to cause a shift singlehandedly, though.

Okay, let me offer WOG here.

I don't know where anyone got the idea that Japan is anti-mutant, or was ever anti-mutant.
Japan is NOT anti-mutant. Period and stop. So little has been defined about Japan that any and all speculation or discussion that it IS full of mutophobes is in error. Regardless of whether Jade goes there or not, Japan is especially friendly to gadgeteers.

Really the only canonical evidence we, the readers, have to support the theory of Japan being anti-mutant is the limited representation in Gen 1 (I can name Hatamoto of the Golden Kids, and Yama Dojo, but that's it).

Considering that none of the stories yet released even take place near Japan, this "under-representation" is entirely justified, I feel.

Back to the subject of Gen 2 though, it's certainly interesting having a mix of protagonists from more varied places in the world, what with their potential to fill things in and flesh the wider world out a little more, in the eyes of us readers.

She doesn't have to pretend very much, look at her general attitude to problem solving and creation. There are very few people who doubt the fact that she is a gadgeteer or devisor because of how focused she is on technology based solutions. Multiple times throughout both her and other characters stories people who know she isn't a gadgeteer or devisor have asked if everyone was sure that she was not. Similarly people who did not know the secret would remark on how she must one.

Ametros wrote: Really the only canonical evidence we, the readers, have to support the theory of Japan being anti-mutant is the limited representation in Gen 1 (I can name Hatamoto of the Golden Kids, and Yama Dojo, but that's it).

Yep. Ie, _no_ information to say one way or the other Japan's status pro or non pro mutant, or why.

Gen 2 gives a LOT more information in NYCWC P1 and P2 about Japan and the UK, for example.

Considering that none of the stories yet released even take place near Japan, this "under-representation" is entirely justified, I feel.

Yeeep. Will change though, and I'll be deeply amused.


However, I'll give a hint: Japan is the land of Shinto. And in Whateley, Shinto is a bit more powerful and respected.

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And who says yokai didn't exist in Whateley?

No! Not yokai, now some idiot devisor kid from Japan will try to imitate that silly Yokai Watch TV show and video game.

Ametros wrote: Really the only canonical evidence we, the readers, have to support the theory of Japan being anti-mutant is the limited representation in Gen 1 (I can name Hatamoto of the Golden Kids, and Yama Dojo, but that's it).

The Wiki lists also Akemi Hori, Carapace, Gundam and Gunkan among the students, and two martial arts teachers: Kasai Tetsuko and Ito. Although Ito is a baseline, and AFAIK Kasai is also a baseline.

Not many, granted, but a bit more than that just Hatamoto.

How many of those students were born/raised in Japan?

and how often, if at ALL have they been seen in Canon stories?

Also: As for Tetsuko, expect to see her a bit more in G2. We has plans...

Malady wrote: Hmm... Just thought of this today:

What if Jade and Thuban are single-handedly responsible for Japan's change in stance on mutation?

'Cause Jade's a Japanese Gadgeteer, and possibly crazy enough to be famous enough to do such a thing. ... And Thuban's rich and powerful.

also consider two more things:
1 Japan has a culture where individuals are not only encouraged but expected to push themselves to the limit in the name of progress, be it technological, athletic, or economic progress. In WU I wouldn't be surprised if they went out of their way to make accomedations for most mutants such that they'd find means to excel at what they do.

2 the US and the majority of the western world (unlike say Japan) has one of the most historically judgmental religions/group of religions as the one with the greatest influence, and when you mix that with a large group of people who don't qualify that religion's definition/interpretation of "normal" then words like "unholy" and "unnatural" and "fiend" and "monster" get thrown around which perpetuates the initial fear and shock. add to that the fact the MCO managed to establish itself as a faux- government organization in the US complete with propaganda, and you get something that lasts longer than it has any right to

Now, you need to ask yourself - is all of this Gen 2 stuff a huge, elaborate hoax on the part of a small cabal who are even now laughing at the gullibility of the audience? That after getting so involved in this, at the point of a major conflict or battle with the fate of Whateley itself hanging in the balance, the following scene will play out:

Toni bolted upright in her bed, a startled gasp coming from her mouth. "Nikki!" she called softly after she'd stilled her racing heart, pounding as if she'd just consumed an entire bowl of nothing but sugar.

"What?" the weary redheaded Sidhe girl called from her bed, barely half-awake and certainly resentful of being awakened in the middle of the night.

"I just had the most bizarre nightmare!" Toni said, her entire body trembling at the reality of the dream from which she'd so violently awakened.

"About what?" Fey mumbled, really not caring but trying to pretend to so that Toni would calm down and go back to the land of nod so that she, too, could resume her slumber.

"It was here - ten years from now," Toni said, rising and padding to sit on the edge of Nikki's bed, "It ... it was horrible! Everything ... it was changed, and there was this huge Mythos monstrosity going to destroy the school and then the world. And the kids that were the world's only hope - they were so ... strange - except for this cute blue girl in Poe..." She sniffled, convulsing a tiny bit as repressed fear sneaked to the surface while she was distracted with her nose. "And ... and ... they didn't call us to help!" Toni wailed aloud.

Nikki gave her roommate and best friend a very supportive hug, starting at how Toni was still trembling. It MUST have been a very disturbing dream. "Shhh," she cooed gently to Toni. "It was only a dream."

konzill wrote:

NeoMagus wrote: Am I the only one who's mildly disturbed that Malady jumped to TEEN PREGNANCY from comments about two female characters?

As the in universe saying goes "Its Whateley, stranger things have happened, this year." Granded that last qualifier may not apply on the first day.

School Year or Calendar Year, there works either way- though wouldn't it be "stranger things have happened in the last 2 weeks"? Though even that would be inaccurate- as it would imply things becoming more normal, maybe "the cumulative strangeness of the last week is stranger than this" allowing for strangeness growth.

even if it was a dream- that would just mean we might be able to add precog to the list of Nikki's powers. Being a dream and the future is not mutually exclusive in a universe with precogs.

Hang on, isn't a shower supposed to be involved somewhere??

Thinking of the earlier comment about yokai in Japan...

A 13 year old girl saves a cat from a group of bullies and pulls a sticking plaster off its head. She then discovers that the cat can speak, produces a rather tacky rod from hammerspace, and persuades the girl to say a five word English phrase...


...or at least, the 13 year old girl dreams of doing so, and upon waking up finds she's now blonde with twintails...

What is the world population count?

How many below poverty line, starving, etc?

What's the global warming/cooling status?

Malady wrote: What is the world population count?

Lots.

Malady wrote: How many below poverty line, starving, etc?

Too many.

Malady wrote: What's the global warming/cooling status?

Some places are hot, some places are cold and some places are just right.

Malady wrote: What is the world population count?

Enough to prove Malthus was a loon.

Malady wrote: How many below poverty line, starving, etc?

Many, but mostly in repressive regimes.

Malady wrote: What's the global warming/cooling status?

Warmer than the ice age, but cooler than when there were premium Roman vineyards in England.

Malady wrote:
What's the global warming status?

Loads of it still drops on Washington every winter...

Pssst. We're technically still in that iceage.

Malady wrote: What is the world population count?

Less than the carrying capability of Earth by a significant function. (and I'd figure that number is _HIGHER_ than RL (and it's estimated to be at LEAST 20 billion in RL right now))

How many below poverty line, starving, etc?

Enough that seeing 21 year old Americans bitching about the 1% STILL makes people go "LOOK IN THE MIRROR YOU IDIOTS."
Less than RL, though I'd figure, and it depends on what you define as poverty line. (is it significantly less than RL? Mm... I'll say this, I suspect in FIRST world nations, the number is less, more or less compared to their own baseline, it could also be that the 'poverty line' is lower, who knows.) If you define the number as "Those with the inability to aquire 'legally' food, water and basic shelter from elements" as poverty: A bit HIGHER in some areas, a bit lower in others, so eh. Agreed that it's more concentrated in the more repressive regimes.

What's the global warming/cooling status?

Still colder than when premium wine was made in Scotland. Or when Greenland was settled...
(Much less England!)
Vis a vis actual pollution in the air: Trees aren't happy, less CO2 for them to eat.

MageOhki wrote:

Malady wrote: How many below poverty line, starving, etc?

Enough that seeing 21 year old Americans bitching about the 1% STILL makes people go "LOOK IN THE MIRROR YOU IDIOTS."
Less than RL, though I'd figure, and it depends on what you define as poverty line. (is it significantly less than RL? Mm... I'll say this, I suspect in FIRST world nations, the number is less, more or less compared to their own baseline, it could also be that the 'poverty line' is lower, who knows.) If you define the number as "Those with the inability to aquire 'legally' food, water and basic shelter from elements" as poverty: A bit HIGHER in some areas, a bit lower in others, so eh. Agreed that it's more concentrated in the more repressive regimes.

fyi, poverty line in the lower mainland of BC ( r/l ) is $2,500/mo
highest cost of living in Canada. :/
and my disability canada pension, with supplement from BC welfare, is 1,109/mo

elrodw wrote: Okay, let me offer WOG here.

I don't know where anyone got the idea that Japan is anti-mutant, or was ever anti-mutant.
Japan is NOT anti-mutant. Period and stop. So little has been defined about Japan that any and all speculation or discussion that it IS full of mutophobes is in error. Regardless of whether Jade goes there or not, Japan is especially friendly to gadgeteers.

Japan has a history of being anti mutant, anti different in many game systems, including one that a cannon author here has written fanfic's in. (Shadowrun comes to mind)
I suspect that that is where the idea comes from.

Because the authors don't bother to actually study Japan. I can think offhand, Mal, 2 game systems that ACUTALLY got Regional authors to do supplements for their settings. Gurps (I'm assuming they did, I can't remember any offhand) and Cyberpunk. (PacRim) I VAGULEY recall RIFTS also doing some research and pointing out how some 'speicies' were perfectly fine with Japanese.


Japan isn't really xenophobic based on _skin/appearance_, by and large. (now if you're disfigured in some ways, historically not a good thing), it's xenophobic on culture (Best rule of thumb: Japanese don't like those who don't take their shoes off in their houses in Japan, same thing as "Wear a toga when in Rome, boys.."). Note who they _hated_ the most, and still to some degree do.

Ain't Europeans or Africans, that's for sure.

Too many people make the assumption: "Japanese are racist to all but perfect humans" instead of looking at their mythology and religious aspects, and thinking all that through. (or, hell, look at manga, and how Kitsune, Elves, various animal minis, etc,, etc are viewed. That tells you a lot, no?)

To be fair, I can't say that Japan WOULDN"T have some xenophobia vis a vis mutants, metahumans (SR), or other species, mind you. It'd _really_ depend on how it was presented to the Japanese people, and how the species behaved.

For Whateley, we're theorizing enough various aspects of the Japanese mythology is 'true' (for values OF true, anyways), so the concept of 'metahumanity' and "supernatural" (both types) beings existing isn't a 'shock' as much, plus when the first Japanese mutants showed up, they leaned more towards 'helpful and useful'.

Note: And then there was the Ryukyus...

Just thought of something interesting. In gen 1 Whateley the bullies get away with stuff because of the administration being unusually lenient on them because of events that will occur sometime in 2008. So the policies on policing the students will be much stricter in gen 2.

Kristin Darken wrote: Not a very logical speculation. A LOT can happen to change policy in 8-10 years.

And not just within the Academy - we've seen hints that the attitude towards mutants in NYC (at least, among certain demographics) may have changed from G1, although of course we won't know for sure unless/until we see the PoV of a resident / regular visitor.

Meanwhile, policy issues aside...

Chaka and Vox are still alive and well in G2, both having had a walk-on speaking cameo role in Road Ch. 1, as well as "an old friend" who Toni hadn't spoken to since leaving Whateley. (I wonder if their cameo is in any way related to Kristin's joke below EE's section in the G2 Announcement, or if we'll discover the significance of that in due course?)

Liz Carson's still Head (not entirely surprising!), while the Drow Collective are based in Karedonia and have been expanding their numbers (just as there are plenty of people wanting to sign up to be Animen, there are likely to be plenty of people wanting to sign up for Drowification).

Everyone's favourite (ha ha ha!) multi-billionaire family are still around - or at least, their company is.

"Grease-skin" sounds suspiciously as though a certain G1 oil manifestor's invention has gone commercial and is widely available.

Speculation: AJG Consolidated is still around, but it's a holding company, so outside investor circles has very little name recognition. It's subsidiary companies, on the other hand...

mittfh wrote:

Kristin Darken wrote: Not a very logical speculation. A LOT can happen to change policy in 8-10 years.

Liz Carson's still Head (not entirely surprising!),

Isn't it just that "Lady Astarte" is still around? Someone else could have taken the codename.... And if someone did, I'm thinking it would be Shelly.

But, yeah, I think that it's still Liz, though.

... Also, Nevermind... Checking if I brought a certain Arc Topic up yet, if not, I'll bring it up... Or I'll bump it.

mittfh wrote: (I wonder if their cameo is in any way related to Kristin's joke below EE's section in the G2 Announcement, or if we'll discover the significance of that in due course?)

I would guess that that comment was at least partially because EE decided to create a reality show Furry island country as the home for his student. But this story did seem to have a lot more G1 cameos than the other introduction story. The advantage of being written by G1 authors?

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

mittfh wrote: (I wonder if their cameo is in any way related to Kristin's joke below EE's section in the G2 Announcement, or if we'll discover the significance of that in due course?)

I would guess that that comment was at least partially because EE decided to create a reality show Furry island country as the home for his student. But this story did seem to have a lot more G1 cameos than the other introduction story. The advantage of being written by G1 authors?

Well with all the work they've put into their own timeline, it kind of makes sense they get some advantage from that, doesn't it?

Kristin Darken wrote: that we had two completely engaged periods of time within the same universe/master timeline actively involved in releasing new content at the same time. Not many story universes can claim that.

Until the blue box turns up of course

I actually found it funny after all the talk of getting gen 2 away from team Kimba et al, that Toni turns up in the second story. RHIP I suppose

annachie wrote:

Kristin Darken wrote: that we had two completely engaged periods of time within the same universe/master timeline actively involved in releasing new content at the same time. Not many story universes can claim that.

Until the blue box turns up of course

I actually found it funny after all the talk of getting gen 2 away from team Kimba et al, that Toni turns up in the second story. RHIP I suppose

Ahh the blue box....

still at least companies can exist without their creators

What I'm hoping for is more wacky devises hijinx (or is that hijinxes?) Things that you might imagine overactive early teen devisers to dream up after being involved in one too many food fight.

Imagine if you will a devise I'll call the pulsed emulsion launcher, also known as the splat gun. Something the size of a tommy gun except for the cartoonishly large bore and oversize drum. The thing projects pulses of whatever emulsion or slurry is in the drum but for some reason (hey, it's a devise) whipped cream, custard and mayonaise work best.

Is it just me or do I have too many good memories of Buggsy Malone?


Another creation might be the confectionary filament projector. This rifle sized devise has a barrel ending in a large number of small holes, like a pepper-box. The multiple holes allow the user to rapidly project multiple threads of any sugary substance, essentially painting candy floss all over something (or someone).

Don't get me started on the beltfed pie launcher . . .

Echo stated

Don't get me started on the beltfed pie launcher . . .

Then they add explosive, net, glue and skunk pies to it.

New speculat for the focus of the Myth Arc of Gen2:

Finding the origin of Mutation!

A musical devisor will get into his head that he can turn Crystal Hall into a huge musical instrument, much to the continued annoyance of the students, staff and the local were pack. Headmistress Carson will even be heard muttering (though she vehemently denies it) at one point, "I'd rather listen to Brass Monkey turned up to eleven!"

This week, in the gen 2 chat - silver lame jumpsuits.

Honest, ask anyone else.

Nagrij wrote: This week, in the gen 2 chat - silver lame jumpsuits.

Honest, ask anyone else.

I plead the Fifth.

NeoMagus wrote:

Nagrij wrote: This week, in the gen 2 chat - silver lame jumpsuits.

Honest, ask anyone else.

I plead the Fifth.

I suggest you plead LSD and enforced watching of Saturday Night Fever instead.

Nagrij wrote: This week, in the gen 2 chat - silver lame jumpsuits.

Honest, ask anyone else.

I thought it was silver lame short-short (e.g. TOS-length) dresses. and odd-colored hair!

elrodw wrote:

Nagrij wrote: This week, in the gen 2 chat - silver lame jumpsuits.

Honest, ask anyone else.

I thought it was silver lame short-short (e.g. TOS-length) dresses. and odd-colored hair!

Hmm... Star Trek being referenced... Hmm... Gen2's going into Outer Space? Is that what the Big Thing is? Figuring out the Ancient Stuff, like the Isokist and the Telemaps?

Could be just a Sim, but still... ... What could be bigger than researching the Isokists Breaching the Universe? ... Except going Outside (Outside the Universe) or Elsewhere (Fae Realm)... ... If anyone's watching. Yes, I'll keep making outrageous, and larger, guesses on the Myth Arc until I either get it right, or am proven wrong. ... Unless it's irritating to the Cabal, of course.

Is there an expanded Yukinojo-class (Hah! Got the spelling right on my first try!) space vehicle for them to travel in? Although, that would actually be a different class of spaceship...

Malady wrote:

elrodw wrote:

Nagrij wrote: This week, in the gen 2 chat - silver lame jumpsuits.

Honest, ask anyone else.

I thought it was silver lame short-short (e.g. TOS-length) dresses. and odd-colored hair!

Hmm... Star Trek being referenced... Hmm... Gen2's going into Outer Space?

Could be just a Sim, but still... ...

Is there an expanded Yukinojo-class (Hah! Got the spelling right on my first try!) space vehicle for them to travel in?

Ah, you didn't quite get the reference right. This time, the Star Trek TOS reference was ONLY about the length of the dresses. Oh, these chats are such fun - the number of different sci-fi references that pop out are just ... delightful, and if we told you a tenth of them, many of your heads would be spinning with confusion!

Anyone wanna take another guess as to the series which we were referring?? Anyone?

Pigs in Space?

lmao. Bacon, vacuum sealed....

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Pigs in Space?

Bzzzzzzt.
Next guess?

elrodw wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Pigs in Space?

Bzzzzzzt.
Next guess?

Well if a single movie counts as a series, I would say Galaxy Quest.

Well, not that I remember them well enough to know, but I believe the unmentioned classics are:

Blake's 7
Lost in Space
Battlestar Galatica (Original Series)
Twilight Zone
And Doctor Who.

Ohhh! We getting cybermen at Whateley?

Good guesses - but all 6 are wrong.
Want another hint?
Purple hair.

elrodw wrote: Good guesses - but all 6 are wrong.
Want another hint?
Purple hair.

I'm still waiting for my moon base stocked with purple hair lovelies in miniskirts and go-go boots. But these days I guess that would be an Unpopular Fashion Objection.

God we miss you, Gerry Anderson!

elrodw wrote: Good guesses - but all 6 are wrong.
Want another hint?
Purple hair.

Farscape, Firefly, or if newer stuff is optional, Dark matter and Defiance

Lexx? That has a scantily dressed purple haired character.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Well, not that I remember them well enough to know, but I believe the unmentioned classics are:

Blake's 7
Lost in Space
Battlestar Galatica (Original Series)
Twilight Zone
And Doctor Who.

Ohhh! We getting cybermen at Whateley?

Please... if Whateley's getting a Doctor Who villain it would be a couple of phalanxes of Daleks donated by Emperor Wilkins. Though, maybe we should talk about the Don't Blink Gargoyles that guard the campus.

Purple hair... might be first year of Andromeda. Or Buck Rogers. But I'm no big fan of either...

Although I have fond memories of Thunderbirds, and I guess The Time Tunnel has some iconic value. Although neither includes purple hair AFAIK. Nalley strongly suggested UFO. Maybe another Gerry Anderson production... did Space 1999 include purple hair?

Can't be UFO, they wore silver catsuits. And I tried multiple searches, hard to find a series with a female who has purple hair and wore silver lame short-shorts. Closest I got was Six from Tripping the Rift but that is a dress, a skimpy dress but still a dress. Driving me crazy about who it could be.

Dreamer wrote: Can't be UFO, they wore silver catsuits. And I tried multiple searches, hard to find a series with a female who has purple hair and wore silver lame short-shorts. Closest I got was Six from Tripping the Rift but that is a dress, a skimpy dress but still a dress. Driving me crazy about who it could be.

It's a bit of a red herring of a clue -
On-duty, the lasses of Moonbase one wore silver lame cat-suits. But occasionally, off-duty or Earthside, you'd catch sight of one in a silver lame mini-dress.

Purple hair. Moonbase One. SID, SHADO.

UFO is the correct answer. If I had said purple hair and silver lame catsuits (or jumpsuits), you'd have gotten it immediately. That would have been too easy.

And just because I'm a nice guy, here's a link.

uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Silvergirl.jpg

And for fun, here's another link to a calibrated bucket-load of pics of purple-haired girls - although most are in their catsuits (but a couple of them are in silver bikinis!)

digilander.libero.it/guido_1953/pics/sha...llery-1-moonbase.htm

elrodw wrote: It's a bit of a red herring of a clue -
On-duty, the lasses of Moonbase one wore silver lame cat-suits. But occasionally, off-duty or Earthside, you'd catch sight of one in a silver lame mini-dress.

And before anyone asks...

NO, Tanya will NOT be wearing ANY of these particular fashion statements at any point in the foreseeable future.

Or at least, not if she has any say in the matter.

NeoMagus wrote: And before anyone asks...

NO, Tanya will NOT be wearing ANY of these particular fashion statements at any point in the foreseeable future.

Or at least, not if she has any say in the matter.

Snerk. Keep telling yourself that

elrodw wrote:

NeoMagus wrote: And before anyone asks...

NO, Tanya will NOT be wearing ANY of these particular fashion statements at any point in the foreseeable future.

Or at least, not if she has any say in the matter.

Snerk. Keep telling yourself that

Fly me to the moon
And let me play amoung the stars
Let me see what spring is like
On Jupiter and Mars...

In other words, hold my hand
In other words, darling kiss me

elrodw wrote:

NeoMagus wrote: And before anyone asks...

NO, Tanya will NOT be wearing ANY of these particular fashion statements at any point in the foreseeable future.

Or at least, not if she has any say in the matter.

Snerk. Keep telling yourself that

Note that I said: "...if she has any say in the matter..."

elrodw wrote:

Dreamer wrote: Can't be UFO, they wore silver catsuits. And I tried multiple searches, hard to find a series with a female who has purple hair and wore silver lame short-shorts. Closest I got was Six from Tripping the Rift but that is a dress, a skimpy dress but still a dress. Driving me crazy about who it could be.

It's a bit of a red herring of a clue -
On-duty, the lasses of Moonbase one wore silver lame cat-suits. But occasionally, off-duty or Earthside, you'd catch sight of one in a silver lame mini-dress.

Purple hair. Moonbase One. SID, SHADO.

UFO is the correct answer. If I had said purple hair and silver lame catsuits (or jumpsuits), you'd have gotten it immediately. That would have been too easy.

OK, I have never even heard of this show!

Oh well, I suppose we now know where ElrodW's purple hair fetish comes from.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

elrodw wrote: It's a bit of a red herring of a clue -
On-duty, the lasses of Moonbase one wore silver lame cat-suits. But occasionally, off-duty or Earthside, you'd catch sight of one in a silver lame mini-dress.

Purple hair. Moonbase One. SID, SHADO.

UFO is the correct answer. If I had said purple hair and silver lame catsuits (or jumpsuits), you'd have gotten it immediately. That would have been too easy.

OK, I have never even heard of this show!

Oh well, I suppose we now know where ElrodW's purple hair fetish comes from.

Neo is the one with the purple hair fetish - see Tanya in gen 2.
I have a thing for blue girls, e.g. Cerulea, Talamira of the Lakarians (Progenitors) .....

Hey! For the longest time my avatar was an image of Major Motoko Kusanagi from the manga, I think it was pretty obvious for me.

Now you've all gone and done it! I'm getting kicked by my muse to make a gadgeteer or devisor who's ADAMANT about making UFO gizmos, like the tracked missile launcher, or the sub-plane, or the lunar interceptors - and insists on his lab assistants being both female and clad in silver mini-dresses or catsuits with purple wigs!

Your only allowed to do it if the assistants are heterosexual males and he put some gadget in the clothes that prevents the assistants taking them off but otherwise they are completely normal men incredibly frustrated about the situation and trapped on the moon.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Your only allowed to do it if the assistants are heterosexual males and he put some gadget in the clothes that prevents the assistants taking them off but otherwise they are completely normal men incredibly frustrated about the situation and trapped on the moon.

Moon location has issues with existent moon bases, unless it's not Luna, or it's an Astral Moon?

A moon base could be in sight of another, unless you have a spacesuit it's not gonna help you

Existing moon bases aren't a problem, there plenty of moon to go around.

Yeah, the Moon's surface is a bit smaller than... Asia. Brazil would fit more than four times there. the US Lower Forty-Eight would do too, with a bit more wiggle room. Even if you require a room with an Earth view, you have an area larger than Russia to choose from.

I think you can find somewhere to place your secret moon base that's not in sight of another base -- particularly considering that the horizon is much closer than on Earth. And the base itself could be underground. The problem will be hiding during the building phase, and also to ensure that your spaceships are stealthy enough not to be noticed.

Well first you need a good teleporter, then that guy who can create tunnels ...

Malady wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Your only allowed to do it if the assistants are heterosexual males and he put some gadget in the clothes that prevents the assistants taking them off but otherwise they are completely normal men incredibly frustrated about the situation and trapped on the moon.

Moon location has issues with existent moon bases, unless it's not Luna, or it's an Astral Moon?

If the skirts are short enough, there is plenty of "moon" to go around.

Well I have an unfair advantage when it comes to guessing about MaLAgua's character, having read most of their Deviant Art, knowing their favorite themes, so I will behave until the first POV story of Victor Rivera, and leave you all with the knowledge that you're in for a treat, MaLAgua is wonderful with story universes, and is responsible for the birth of 2 that are currently active, and multiple iterations of a third from early on, once they manage to catch up on WU, you'll all be wanting more.

There was a SF reference in The Gen 2 Story set in NY (in the first part). So far no-one seems to have spotted it?
OK, I put it in and it was a bit obscure...

That's because it was probably some odd-ball, weird, British TV show that no-one watches

elrodw wrote: That's because it was probably some odd-ball, weird, British TV show that no-one watches

No, it was more obscure than that

Kristin Darken wrote: It was a Bollywood musical movie?!!

Cold
Freezing cold

Clearly, it was French performance art.

We all know Astro loves French performance art, the less understandable, the better.

OK, I'll give you some clues (since your all clueless
Its in the first few pages
Its not a movie or TV show.

so, its from a book or comic, in the Morgana POV in the first half of The Big Apple Comes With Calamari Part1.

No, not in Morgana's pov

Betting the Myth Arc is gonna be that someone's planning on messing with history via Time Travel! ... Or, if my Alternate Universes Exist question gets a Yes result, that might be the Myth Arc!