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Question Imp 6 A Very Imp-ortant Date!

7 years 8 months ago #2 by Malady

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Woah. This got a bit darker than the heartwarming date I was expecting. But it's pretty cool!

They're bonding, aww!

Family...

Who's the new girl? Or is that old girl? Hmm...

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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #3 by E!

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Malady wrote: Imp vs. the IRS! lol.

Yea pretty much this and the Red Dot scene had me rolling.

Now imagine just some dude in a stuffy office building telling Imp that no she cannot take corporate deductions on ACME products despite proclaiming them as useful to her own small business of "Messing With Super Dorks LLC".

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7 years 8 months ago #4 by Dreamer

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7 years 8 months ago #5 by Domoviye

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I'm thinking Heaven was Barney's fiance or daughter. He mentioned losing his fiance due to her revenge, so she fits there.
But humiliating her family also fits, and maybe as his daughter when that became known her fiance left her.

7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #6 by Malady

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^ - And her becoming Hexagoner 2.0 is just random coincidence? Or is there some other explanation?

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7 years 8 months ago #7 by Domoviye

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There were to women, hexegoner 2 needs to kill imp for the inheretence, Heaven is the fifth member whose wedding was ruined. Imp has no clue who she is.

7 years 8 months ago #8 by Dreamer

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Malady wrote: ^ - And her becoming Hexagoner 2.0 is just random coincidence? Or is there some other explanation?

Domo was talking about Heaven, the blonde with exemplar looks of the 5. Hexagoner 2.0 was a separate character in the story, one who is sounds like was his apprentice for a while. Who was wearing a red hood, if I were Imp I would nickname her Little Red Riding Hoodlum. Nah, too easy, she can probably do better than that.

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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #9 by pumpernickel

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Well it looks like Imp has her very own Sinister Six. Though I wonder who this Heaven is and more importantly, who her father is. The only thing I can think of is is Williams might be her father. If not, then perhaps it's a completely new character we've never seen. Or maaaaybe.... Her name is Heaven, which is the opposite of Hell, the home of devils... and imps. Maybe she's a relative Imp didn't even know she had.

And a thousand bucks says the superhero investigating Danny's gallery just happens to have a name that starts with "S" and ends with "uperhawk". He DOES have an interest in the art scene.

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7 years 8 months ago #10 by annachie

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Dreamer wrote: Domo was talking about Heaven,

I can't be the only person who didn't think Heaven reminded them of someone?

7 years 8 months ago #11 by Valentine

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pumpernickel wrote: Well it looks like Imp has her very own Sinister Six. Though I wonder who this Heaven is and more importantly, who her father is. The only thing I can think of is is Williams might be her father. If not, then perhaps it's a completely new character we've never seen. Or maaaaybe.... Her name is Heaven, which is the opposite of Hell, the home of devils... and imps. Maybe she's a relative Imp didn't even know she had.

And a thousand bucks says the superhero investigating Danny's gallery just happens to have a name that starts with "S" and ends with "uperhawk". He DOES have an interest in the art scene.

Fiendish Five.

If I remember, Imp is from Buffalo, NY, and that is where the gallery is. A bit out of Chickenhawk's territory.

I wonder if he has gotten Mischief's shirt yet?

I'm guessing that Heaven is Barney's ex, but that everything was just fallout from Barney being outed. Imp isn't likely to go against a third party just because they know someone. Remember that even though Imp pranked all of Brandywine's team, she was only really vindictive against Polarstorm.

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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #12 by Katssun

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Then, as she went into the shower, she called out, “Sometime, we’re going to have to do a real match. A serious one.”

And here I was after reading this line, thinking, "No, Tabby, you really, really don't." Imp in a simulator, at her full potential? Equipped seriously? Ryan got to see a little bit of that before, and showing the spikes (and knowing her accuracy with eggs) on the rooftop nexus gave more insight to how professional Imp is compared to some other villains running around. If Imp really wanted people dead, they would be, she usually just maimed them and left.

Then Crimson Kid and JerkAss show up! Litttle bit of foreshadowing with Tabby's line then?

CTD totally did it to himself, but the one that really gets me is Hexagoner. The guy is an asshole even in death, demanding his successor take care of his enemies for him. Let polygons be bygones...but noooo, can't even do that.

No clue who Heaven is, unless we're missing something obvious by it being Barney's fiancee, but I'm guessing Heaven's father is someone else who pulled her tail, many years ago. She's usually pretty good about remembering things and people.

Cute detail that Ryan and Imp are having a real date back where they first had their little fake date when Melissa was abducted.

Didn't Melissa say that her father is like an art insurer or claims adjuster or something more official (and boring) than art reseller? That's the reason he kept crossing with Imp, he was superhero protecting some of the same places that he was involved with out of costume, and Imp was stealing from. Buffalo is a bit out of the way for his superheroing, but it might not be if he also had something out of costume to do in the area.

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7 years 8 months ago #13 by Anne

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Imp has been making several tactical errors. One of these is never leave a wounded enemy on your 6. Another is that a humiliated enemy is worse than a wounded enemy. Or in other words, She needs to take some of Gunny Bardu's classes as well as the escape class that is offered at Whately. She's gotten into the mode of thinking that she can always escape her past . Not that it would help for her to have killed most of the people who are after her, after all that would have meant that she was a truly dangerous villieness.

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7 years 8 months ago #14 by Valentine

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Bliss 1 Aug 17

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7 years 8 months ago #15 by Kaitha39

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Or maaaaybe.... Her name is Heaven, which is the opposite of Hell, the home of devils... and imps. Maybe she's a relative Imp didn't even know she had.

It makes me sad that I can't be the first person to suggest this now since I was totally calling it that Heaven is Danny-Boy's daughter. It wouldn't be too surprising that after realising the connection, Daniel tried something stupid involving villains, it turned sour and has now been blaming his sister for all their ails.

One tends to wonder how Whateley Neutrality affects teachers though. CTD is in for a world of hurt even just from the Imp, but how does Carson react to having her teachers assaulted? We know from the first Imp story that if the tail is removed (her father tried to have a doctor remove it IIRC) it'll grow back, and she does have a business address that includes "the best hospital staff in the world" so the Imp will get better, but does anyone think she'll take this lying down?

I'd go so far as to suspect this could lead to the first murder on her rap sheet, to be honest.

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7 years 8 months ago #16 by Echo

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Count on the Imp to find the perfect spot to taunt passing flyers. I'm surprised she doesn't have a (figurative) slingshot sticking out of her back pocket. Does Red Dot only refer to the pointer/sight or also to candy? Also, are Whateley teacher sparring matches private or can anyone come to watch?

Imp's certainly ended up in a sticky situation here. I'm looking forward to see how she deals with the IRS, though IMO CTD's death is a given. The other IRS members also stand to at least lose body parts or end up wishing they had.

If she does return to Whateley on schedule she'll certainly cause a stir when she checks into Doyle beaten half to death and missing her tail.

Does something like this (an attack on a Whateley teacher off campus by non-students) count as a Whateley violation to be dealt with by the Whateley PTA and Alumni associations or is Imp on her own? It would be interesting to see various faculty and staff members (Donner, Paulson, Songbird, Tabby, Sam Everheart, the Dragon Slayers, maybe the Stern Teacher of Justice) making an unofficial field trip, substituting their various uniforms and panoply for flat black, army boots and masks, to deliver the message that Whateley is not to be messed with. Joined by Ryan, in similar attire of course to remain anonymous.

As for Danny's problem, maybe the hapless hero covertly gets passed a file detailing an investigation of the gallery and its 'backers'. Who knows (Morpheus does).

Minor nit: There are some spelling mythtakes that spoil what you're trying to say. Look for 'Chickenhawn' and 'person who knew past'.

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7 years 8 months ago #17 by annachie

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Since Barney is still alive I think we can safely say that Imp wont kill anybody.

They may end up wishing she had killed them of course.

7 years 8 months ago #18 by Kaitha39

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But Barnie didn't actually cut the tail off of her, so.....

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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #19 by Esar

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Kaitha39 wrote: But Barnie didn't actually cut the tail off of her, so.....

You are right.

He did far worse than that.

The more story we have dealing with Imp and Superhawk, the more I am hoping that Mischief will actually be the one surprised during Parent Day.

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7 years 8 months ago #20 by Sir Lee

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My question is: for how long has Morpheus been planning this? I mean, Imp has been collecting enemies since her first story.

Which brings something to mind... regarding Heaven's identity. She might be related to one of Imp's enemies which have not been accounted for yet. Let me see...
We have Polarstorm. She might be his fiancée or something, and he had to postpone the wedding for being Nair'd? Wanting to kill Imp for it seems a bit too much, but if she was in bridezilla mode and/or something happened, like her father dying before the rescheduled wedding, it could flip her lid.
Then, we have that asshole... whatsisname... oh, Mauler. She might be related to him.

Now, the speculations about her being Danny-boy's daughter... possible. I mean, my first thought when Danny came looking for Imp was that one of his kids had manifested; since Imp is a mutant, the odds of Danny carrying the MGC in complete or almost-complete form are quite high.

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7 years 8 months ago #21 by Katssun

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Sir Lee wrote: My question is: for how long has Morpheus been planning this? I mean, Imp has been collecting enemies since her first story.

Many, if not all, the authors past and present consistently display one trait, long term planning.

And oh yes, they love to taunt us about all the things we missed.

I'd expect Morpheus has been planning this almost from the first Imp story. Imp never kills her opponents, but she does them considerable harm or embarrassment.

The real question is...how long has the "IRS" gag part of it been planned?

7 years 8 months ago #22 by Yolandria

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Yeah Imp really needs to talk to The chief. And this IRS non sense would be over. I don't think any of them would appreciate a REACT team in their face. And it definatly would set a precident within the Cape/Villain communities at large.

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7 years 8 months ago #23 by Anne

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I'm sort of wondering how over the top SuperHawk will be? I think he's attached to Imp. And doubt that he will have much of a sense of humor for what amounted to an attempt to murder Imp.

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7 years 8 months ago #24 by mhalpern

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I think we are all missing an important question here, the Imp Revenge Squad is a fairly sizable group of people who don't normally work together, yet somehow when Imp went to NYC all of them were there, so who at Whateley tipped them off to Imp's itinerary? I think it isn't hard to guess, but even so, she needs at least one of them to be kept alive to squeal.

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7 years 8 months ago #25 by Iwasforger03

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Aye. He wouldn't take any attempted murder lightly, but this crosses a couple hundred different lines, most of them personal.

Maybe Heaven has the wrong person entirely?

This will be... interesting.

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7 years 8 months ago #26 by mhalpern

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As for Danny Kade, too fishy, too convenient, there are many other mutants with similar features to Imp, and after 30 years he chooses now to track her down? The art gallery seems like a perfect place someone would use as bait for Imp, no one would question her being taken out in an art gallery, she's an art thief, they could claim they caught her trying to steal something and she resisted, case closed, what's worse is the fact that it is the same sort of profile as the 'hero' stuff she's done, kids in danger + art gallery.

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7 years 8 months ago #27 by Domoviye

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mhalpern wrote: I think we are all missing an important question here, the Imp Revenge Squad is a fairly sizable group of people who don't normally work together, yet somehow when Imp went to NYC all of them were there, so who at Whateley tipped them off to Imp's itinerary? I think it isn't hard to guess, but even so, she needs at least one of them to be kept alive to squeal.

I was thinking something similar. It would add to the idea that Heaven is Barneys fiancé or daughter.

And long term planning is a must for writing stuff like this. So don't be surprised at stuff like this.

7 years 8 months ago #28 by mhalpern

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Domoviye wrote:
mhalpern wrote: I think we are all missing an important question here, the Imp Revenge Squad is a fairly sizable group of people who don't normally work together, yet somehow when Imp went to NYC all of them were there, so who at Whateley tipped them off to Imp's itinerary? I think it isn't hard to guess, but even so, she needs at least one of them to be kept alive to squeal.
I was thinking something similar. It would add to the idea that Heaven is Barneys fiancé or daughter.

And long term planning is a must for writing stuff like this. So don't be surprised at stuff like this.

Of course this makes the situation even worse than it already is, Barney has decided to look into Ryan Chambers for his connection to Imp, so his house is compromised.

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7 years 8 months ago #29 by Katssun

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But that would mean that not only has Williams crossed Imp a third time, he's also crossed her a fourth and fifth time by threatening Ryan and Melissa Chambers. Making Melissa's home unsafe crosses Whateley neutrality (I'm not sure if teachers are already covered because most are considered "established" and therefore fair game).

But it will bring Carson's wrath down on someone...and that's a lot worse than Imp would ever do.

Hell...it might piss off Caitlin. Or god forbid...Jade.

7 years 8 months ago #30 by Yolandria

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Hell...it might piss off Caitlin.

Most definately. If word got around. I think Barney wouldn't survive unless there were severe deals made ala what was made with the good Rev...

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7 years 8 months ago #31 by Rose Bunny

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Remember what happened to the Tong of the Black Madonna when they threatened Chaka and Gateway's families? You do NOT want to break neutrality. If Barney were in on this, he would have to make sure his tracks are VERY well covered.

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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #32 by mhalpern

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Rose Bunny wrote: Remember what happened to the Tong of the Black Madonna when they threatened Chaka and Gateway's families? You do NOT want to break neutrality. If Barney were in on this, he would have to make sure his tracks are VERY well covered.

That's why (I am guessing) Heaven needs to be kept alive, so she can squeal. someone there would have contact with Barney, after all. However the question becomes how well did he really cover his tracks, he could be so blinded by hate that he didn't bother.

Not that it would matter with Hartford around with him using her own network

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7 years 8 months ago #33 by Dpragan

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Ryan knows that Imp works at Whateley I think that a call to there would probably be reasonable. Especially since Hexagoner 1.0 attacked a student.

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7 years 8 months ago #34 by mhalpern

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Yolandria wrote:
Hell...it might piss off Caitlin.
Most definately. If word got around. I think Barney wouldn't survive unless there were severe deals made ala what was made with the good Rev...

The Rev has his uses and there is a need to have him around, like it or not he is the best at what he does, that's why the deal was made, Williams is just a history teacher, and a bad one at that.

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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #35 by konzill

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a great example of but For me. it was a Tuesday. The self appointed nemeitsis whom the hero of the piece doesn't even remember

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7 years 8 months ago #36 by Iwasforger03

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Englund considered murder acceptable because he doesn't view Sara as human. I suspect that while they may absolutely disgust him (and given recent reveals, he probably doesn't think Billy counts as human either), people he views as actually human he won't condone the murder of unless he can see no other alternative. I doubt Imp would qualify, given that she's never killed anyone.

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7 years 8 months ago #37 by Valentine

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Iwasforger03 wrote: Englund considered murder acceptable because he doesn't view Sara as human. I suspect that while they may absolutely disgust him (and given recent reveals, he probably doesn't think Billy counts as human either), people he views as actually human he won't condone the murder of unless he can see no other alternative. I doubt Imp would qualify, given that she's never killed anyone.

Sara, Billie, Nikki, and a few others aren't human. They are sentient beings though.

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7 years 8 months ago #38 by Kaitha39

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Esar wrote:
Kaitha39 wrote: But Barnie didn't actually cut the tail off of her, so.....

You are right.

He did far worse than that.

The more story we have dealing with Imp and Superhawk, the more I am hoping that Mischief will actually be the one surprised during Parent Day.

Thank you Morpheus.

....I didn't get Barny and Polarstorm mixed up, since we were talkiing about attacks on Imp's tail....
...Nope...
"Is that a demonic duck of some kind?" /points /runs away

Iwasforger03 wrote: and given recent reveals, he probably doesn't think Billy counts as human either

Wait.... how recent is recent here?

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mhalpern wrote:
Yolandria wrote:
Hell...it might piss off Caitlin.
Most definately. If word got around. I think Barney wouldn't survive unless there were severe deals made ala what was made with the good Rev...
The Rev has his uses and there is a need to have him around, like it or not he is the best at what he does, that's why the deal was made, Williams is just a history teacher, and a bad one at that.

Actually, he's a very GOOD one, he just has a very nation-centric view. This is common among even the very good teachers of the world.

If he was a bad history teacher Carson would have booted his ass years ago.

7 years 8 months ago #40 by mhalpern

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JG wrote:
mhalpern wrote:
Yolandria wrote:
Hell...it might piss off Caitlin.
Most definately. If word got around. I think Barney wouldn't survive unless there were severe deals made ala what was made with the good Rev...
The Rev has his uses and there is a need to have him around, like it or not he is the best at what he does, that's why the deal was made, Williams is just a history teacher, and a bad one at that.

Actually, he's a very GOOD one, he just has a very nation-centric view. This is common among even the very good teachers of the world.

If he was a bad history teacher Carson would have booted his ass years ago.

He doesn't seem to do well with GSD students or foreign students,

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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #41 by pumpernickel

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The reason I didn't think Heaven is Williams' ex-fiance is because of very specific word choices. She says "You ruined my WEDDING DAY, destroyed my father, and humiliated my entire family…" She explicitly says her WEDDING DAY is ruined. Not her marriage, not her engagement. Something specifically happened on her wedding day that ruined it. But if her fiance had been dyed purple and she left him, she'd have said about Imp ruining her engagement. Also, Williams' fiance left HIM. If it were Heaven, why would SHE be murderously angry at Imp, when she was the one who decided she couldn't look past a fortnight of Grimace.

In addition, she says Imp "destroyed my father". Not that she killed him. She "destroyed" him. Outside of kids' shows where they can't use the word "kill", to "destroy" a person is usually used figuratively to mean someone is broken down and brought low. That's exactly what Imp did to Williams when she dyed him purple.

Plus, if Heaven were his fiance that would mean Imp had wronged Heaven on two distinct occasions because her purple fiance purple would be an entirely separate entity from her destroyed father. If she were Williams' daughter, then him showing up at her wedding all purple would have been an extremely embarrassing event that would ruin her wedding day, but not necessarily the marriage, destroyed her father, and embarrass her family all in one.

I'm actually beginning to favor the theory that it's someone we haven't seen before. Someone pointed out this might be a But For Me It Was Tuesday trope. I'm thinking it's not only this, but a Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking trope. We've seen and heard about a lot of Imp's exploits. We've heard about her revenge on Crimson Kid in response to Monster Max. We've seen her foil Hexagon's plan, resulting in his death and the loss of Dummy's hand. We've seen her rescue Melissa from Jack Rabbit and cut off his foot. We've seen the whole Mauler incident. But what other caper have we famously heard about multiple times? The time she snuck into Bruce Goodkind's office and stole a bottle of whiskey. The Goodkinds are a close, reputable family concerned with appearances led by a proud man who takes slights seriously. What perfect comedy it would be if the one leading the crew of people whose lives were ruined because of Imp were actually an overreacting diva who's mad that she didn't have the exact brand of whiskey her daddy was going to bring to the wedding. It's a very Morpehus move. You heard it here first, folks, I'm calling it.

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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #42 by Rose Bunny

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@Rose - Actually, he was talking about Williams... Goodnight, everyone!

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7 years 8 months ago #44 by Sir Lee

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There's a simpler hypothesis regarding Heaven. We know of two people Imp specifically targeted for destruction: Barney and... the Crimson no-longer-a-Kid. Who, you know, is already part of the IRS. Heaven might be his daughter. And how did Imp ruin her wedding day? Oh, any number of ways, depending on the exact timeline. But essentially, something happened in the wedding day that was a consequence of Imp's revenge on C.K. Like C.K. having to be hospitalized due to alcoholism.

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7 years 8 months ago #45 by Yolandria

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Or it could be something as simple as one of Imp's egg's missing their mark and hitting a bridezilla who just happens to manifest on the spot and sending her into a Deidricks fit of colossal size. We'll just have to wait and see for the next installment.

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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #46 by Katssun

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Imp's career spans 30 years ~~and Heaven is described as being in her late twenties~~, so it should be something fairly recent, but probably shortly before the first Imp POV story.

It does put it in position for Heaven to be Imp's niece, but that doesn't seem that likely because she hasn't completely ruined her brother's life, yet.

It could be something to do with the Kube job that Tabby grilled her about. The Black Maestro, "Captain Blowhard" and the owners of the vault were all ultimate victims of Imp's success there. It could be the vault's owners who had their reputation go down the toilet, but it doesn't seem like Heaven's wedding day would also be ruined from that.

edit: Oops. Heaven is an exemplar, so anyone's guess. The woman in her late twenties was Pink Piper.

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7 years 8 months ago #47 by Astrodragon

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Of course, Heaven could just be Imp's evil twin that Morpheus hasn't told us about yet :evil:

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7 years 8 months ago #48 by Domoviye

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Astrodragon wrote: Of course, Heaven could just be Imp's evil twin that Morpheus hasn't told us about yet

Or a clone daughter created by the remains of the fetus that Imp lost, fast grown by a devisor who Was imps lover and Heavens father.
But after implanting childhood memories into her, the devisor was rejected by Imp, so he put more memories into the clone creating a twisted past and now instead of being created to love Imp, she can only hate her.

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I wanna say that's the truth 'cause Domo's the one who said it, and teasing with the truth has gotta happen sometime...

And that way, we learn more about Imp's previous lover...

It feels too complex to be false? Then again...

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7 years 8 months ago #50 by Anne

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In general (even when they are busy with slight of hand sorts of stuff the authors tend to follow the KISS model. So while I like Domo's idea, I have severe doubts about it.

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7 years 8 months ago #51 by mhalpern

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I have got an even simpler theory, Heaven's father could have owned an art gallery or something where the wedding would take place, and just before the wedding one or more predominant pieces where stolen and replaced by her calling card. destroying her father's reputation and ruining the wedding. And for Imp, well it was a Tuesday (more likely another day of the week but still)

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7 years 8 months ago #52 by Iwasforger03

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Iwasforger03 wrote: and given recent reveals, he probably doesn't think Billy counts as human either

Wait.... how recent is recent here?[/quote]

The reveal that he can see the demon whispering in your ear. If he can see that, imagine what the star stalker must look like.

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I'm going to bet on Heaven being Barney's daughter.
That he turned up purple to her wedding, proceded to get drunk at the reception, thengot into a fight when someone called him Barney. Probably someone like the grooms father.

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That makes sense. Of course given Morpheous' twisty mind, whatever happened isn't quite that straight forward... :twisted:

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7 years 8 months ago #56 by joreymay

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annachie wrote: Since Barney is still alive I think we can safely say that Imp wont kill anybody.

I don't think that is a safe bet. I think it's fairly safe to say she won't kill any of them in cold blood, and even that she won't go out of her way to kill any of them. But in a pinch, she is more than capable of killing someone who seriously threatens her or hers.

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Good to see Imp rebound from the anniversary. She really needs some happiness, and Melissa needs a little sister.

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It's too bad Imp couldn't get the day off. She needed it.
Lots of stuff happening here, need a chance to digest all of it, so I'll just say it's the usual top notch work, and leave it there for now.

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So seeing as she is sitting at the table with SuperHawk and Falcon, neither of whom can say anything so as not to blow their secret identity, how many bird jokes do you all think Imp made?

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Why do I see Imp sitting in the final scene with the song

running through her head the whole time, or at least as soon as she finishes thinking "I know something you don't know."

Why do I get the feeling that Foobs is going to arrange for Imp to have Oct 25 from now on.

Barney is probably lucky that Tabby didn't know the whole story, she is likely to do something about it.

Imp has made a great Imp-ression on many of her students, from all walks of life. Not something she would have expected.

I wonder who will sign up for Imp's Art of the Breakin class.

Aunt June, Sparky, has to be one of the dumbest "heroes" around. Vindictive too. I still want to know who Zenith's uncle is.

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I loved watching Melissa and Monkeywrench making friends with Darqueheart.

It's kind of weird thinking that if Imp's child had been born, they'd be almost the same age as Melissa. I wonder if they'd have been friends?

Parent's Day drove home to me that in addition to being the staff GSD representative, Carson is also using Imp as the representative supervillain. It's no secret that there are former members of the less than legal occupations among the teachers, and by drawing attention to the fabulous (but almost entirely harmless) Imp she distracts from the more objectionable supervillains such as Lady Hydra who actually have serious body counts.

I'm really starting to think that Imp should reveal her secret identity to Ryan, if only so that they can go on dates in public. It wouldn't surprise me too much if he'd already figured it out, though. He's not an idiot.

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Domoviye wrote: It's too bad Imp couldn't get the day off. She needed it.
Lots of stuff happening here, need a chance to digest all of it, so I'll just say it's the usual top notch work, and leave it there for now.

I wonder next year if she'll find her class schedule gives her that day, or week, off?

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peter wrote:
Domoviye wrote: It's too bad Imp couldn't get the day off. She needed it.
Lots of stuff happening here, need a chance to digest all of it, so I'll just say it's the usual top notch work, and leave it there for now.

I wonder next year if she'll find her class schedule gives her that day, or week, off?

By this time next year, she will already be pregnant.

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konzill wrote:
peter wrote:
Domoviye wrote: It's too bad Imp couldn't get the day off. She needed it.
Lots of stuff happening here, need a chance to digest all of it, so I'll just say it's the usual top notch work, and leave it there for now.

I wonder next year if she'll find her class schedule gives her that day, or week, off?

By this time next year, she will already be pregnant.

There is no evidence for that. First if that were true, we would see an impling in gen 2! Which is not in evidence. So, until we see Ryan retired and living in the Village with Imp and a child with them who is their child we can only hope that Imp and Ryan have a fruitful romance.

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7 years 8 months ago #66 by Domoviye

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I wouldn't say a child is out of the question, Imp hasn't featured very prominently in G2 so who knows what is going on in her personal life. And it's possible Ryan works in New York where a child of theirs goes to school, and they meet up on weekends and holidays.
I won't lay money down on this, but until we see More of Imp, her being a mother and wife is possible.

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I agree, it's entirely reasonable for Imp to have a young child going to a proper age appropriate school during the school year. The only glimpse we've had of Imp outside of Whateley during Gen 2 is at her favorite Villain Bar... not a place to bring your kids.

So it's an unknown. We don't know, so we can hope and pray.

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I would argue that, as disturbing as it was to the students, maybe Imp forcing herself to do her job and teach classes might have been good for her. Not only it limited her time for wallowing in self-pity, it also highlighted how many people actually like and care for her now. Fubar, Tabby, Michief, Monkeywrench, Darqueheart, Razorback... they all care and went out of their way to show her some support. It may take her a while to realize this, but it probably was better than whatever she did in previous anniversaries.

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Domoviye wrote: I wouldn't say a child is out of the question, Imp hasn't featured very prominently in G2 so who knows what is going on in her personal life. And it's possible Ryan works in New York where a child of theirs goes to school, and they meet up on weekends and holidays.
I won't lay money down on this, but until we see More of Imp, her being a mother and wife is possible.

Adoption. That popped into my head. Imp is contacted by a lawyer and finds out that a super villain she was on good terms with named her the guardian of her child. Knowing that Imp teaches at the safest most mutant friendly school in the world.

Introducing a suitably precocious brat to make Generation Two even more interesting.

Or She and Ryan adopted twins, for similar reasons. They are now manifesting early and will be coming to school. one is focused on the villain track, the other is determined to go hero.

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If The Imp is surprised about being defended by Miss Carson I kind of wonder what would happen if she gets surrounded by the IRS and Lady Astarte and Tabby Cat and a few others showed up to help her...

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gpoetx wrote: If The Imp is surprised about being defended by Miss Carson I kind of wonder what would happen if she gets surrounded by the IRS and Lady Astarte and Tabby Cat and a few others showed up to help her...

I think she'd be annoyed. Her rep depends on fighting her own battles.

Now if they were waiting on the sidelines and only came forward after she won and asked if she wanted to go get that drink now that she's finished taking out the trash. That might be a different matter.

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Hmm. I think SuperHawk will end up involved in the takedown of the IRS. Or at least in the takedown of little Bunny Foo Foo., he deserves to give that slimeball a good beating.

Though really the fight I'd most like to see is still Jack Rabbit vs Generator. Yes I know there is no way this story is going there and it would be downright weird if it did but, it's still fun to imagine such a confrontation. (EDIT Jack Rabbit vs Ribbon would be fun too, I just want to see JR get his ass handed to him by a little girl, ).

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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #73 by Valentine

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konzill wrote: Hmm. I think SuperHawk will end up involved in the takedown of the IRS. Or at least in the takedown of little Bunny Foo Foo., he deserves to give that slimeball a good beating.

Though really the fight I'd most like to see is still Jack Rabbit vs Generator. Yes I know there is no way this story is going there and it would be downright weird if it did but, it's still fun to imagine such a confrontation. (EDIT Jack Rabbit vs Ribbon would be fun too, I just want to see JR get his ass handed to him by a little girl, ).

The "IRS" is just lucky that Razorback doesn't find out about them and tell Caitlin.

Edit: I'm torn between seeing Imp take them out herself (with Chickenhawk) or having Whateley just flatten them so Imp really understands that she is accepted/has friends/isn't a pariah.

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konzill wrote: Though really the fight I'd most like to see is still Jack Rabbit vs Generator. Yes I know there is no way this story is going there and it would be downright weird if it did but, it's still fun to imagine such a confrontation. (EDIT Jack Rabbit vs Ribbon would be fun too, I just want to see JR get his ass handed to him by a little girl, ).

Do you want to see him get beat up by a giggling mad-girl with a flying buzz-saw? Jade.
Do you want to see him get beat up by a girl in a frilly dress who then walks away like a badass? Alyss.

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Pity Skydork wasn't there (to visit Alex, perhaps?). Birds of a feather and all.

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I can see it now, for some reason Ayla and Jade as his assistant must be in New York City for business. Somehow their business corresponds with Imp being there. And for some reason (not yet defined) Ayla and Jade are in the neighborhood when the IRS begins chasing Imp. They don't realize that it is Imp being chased at first but get involved to protect civilians since the IRS is so focused on getting Imp that they are injuring or even killing civilians.
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konzill wrote: Though really the fight I'd most like to see is still Jack Rabbit vs Generator. Yes I know there is no way this story is going there and it would be downright weird if it did but, it's still fun to imagine such a confrontation. (EDIT Jack Rabbit vs Ribbon would be fun too, I just want to see JR get his ass handed to him by a little girl, ).

Would it be a fight?

JR: You are now my partner Pipsqueak... the mouse Crusader!!!
Jade: I'm gonna be the best partner you ever had boss!!!

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Valentine wrote: The "IRS" is just lucky that Razorback doesn't find out about them and tell Caitlin.
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Caitlin would have a few issues with a few members of the IRS. She's destructive, sure, but brawling with the IRS isn't particularly smart, and Imp would have to talk to Cait about it, something that I doubt would happen under even the best circumstances.

What the IRS crew are lucky about is that Lady Astarte has not decided to personally involve herself in their idiocy. People think Caitlin is scary, there are other people on the actual school staff who are much, much better at what they do than she is, even if you ignore the fact that many of them outpower her severely.

I think I mentioned somewhere in a story that Gunny Bardue (still a baseline) still has Caitlin locked out in fencing. And the two practiced Sabre together.

But the most important consideration: This is Imp's story. She's actually been a supervillain for about as long as Caitlin Bardue has been alive, and a successful one at that. I wouldn't put much faith in Caitlin's ability to do better than the Imp that called Carson Ass-Tart on more than one occasion and got away with it.

7 years 8 months ago #79 by mhalpern

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Angeldude wrote:
konzill wrote: Though really the fight I'd most like to see is still Jack Rabbit vs Generator. Yes I know there is no way this story is going there and it would be downright weird if it did but, it's still fun to imagine such a confrontation. (EDIT Jack Rabbit vs Ribbon would be fun too, I just want to see JR get his ass handed to him by a little girl, ).

Do you want to see him get beat up by a giggling mad-girl with a flying buzz-saw? Jade.
Do you want to see him get beat up by a girl in a frilly dress who then walks away like a badass? Alyss.

I want to see both.

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JG wrote:
Valentine wrote: The "IRS" is just lucky that Razorback doesn't find out about them and tell Caitlin.
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Caitlin would have a few issues with a few members of the IRS. She's destructive, sure, but brawling with the IRS isn't particularly smart, and Imp would have to talk to Cait about it, something that I doubt would happen under even the best circumstances.

What the IRS crew are lucky about is that Lady Astarte has not decided to personally involve herself in their idiocy. People think Caitlin is scary, there are other people on the actual school staff who are much, much better at what they do than she is, even if you ignore the fact that many of them outpower her severely.

I think I mentioned somewhere in a story that Gunny Bardue (still a baseline) still has Caitlin locked out in fencing. And the two practiced Sabre together.

But the most important consideration: This is Imp's story. She's actually been a supervillain for about as long as Caitlin Bardue has been alive, and a successful one at that. I wouldn't put much faith in Caitlin's ability to do better than the Imp that called Carson Ass-Tart on more than one occasion and got away with it.

To be honest, I wasn't expecting Caitlin to go alone, but to organize a group made up of either other teachers, the Outcasts, the Grunts (well except maybe Bomber), the Dragonslayers, or even just the Hooligans.

And as I said, my point isn't that Imp can't deal with it, but that she still doesn't understand her change in status. She's getting there, with Sam and Mrs. Carson supporting her over Sparky, but having people from Whateley people protecting her from enemies would help her understand that she really isn't alone.

It wouldn't surprise me if Mrs. Carson asked Tabby to meet with Imp, or at least encouraged her to.

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Even were Imp the type to share, I doubt she'd let the kids in on what's happening.

To be honest? Razorback would be the worst outcast to involve in this fiasco for the IRS.

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Not trying to argue with J.G. here. He's Caitlin's creator, he surely knows her best.

With that said... my impressions.
The reason people say the IRS is lucky Caitlin didn't get involved is not because she's particularly good at this kind of thing nor because of her power level. It's because, frankly, Caitlin has, shall we say, self-control issues. Lady Astarte is very good at her job and packs a terrifying punch, but she would stop as soon as her opponent was defeated. Caitlin... not so much. If she got into one of her berserker rages, it would take someone else to calm her down before it got to the point where the M.E. would need a blotter to cart off the remains.

Now, the question is, would Caitlin go berserk over an attack on Imp? I really don't think so. She might offer to help Imp, and she might do a good professional job of it, but a teacher, one that has a, shall we say, colourful past, is not one of her trigger buttons. Now, if the IRS had happened to attack one of the kids... (Yes, I know, Bunny Foo Foo has a history of abusing kids, but he is not doing that right now, so it's not so much of an emotional trigger issue)

Now, this story has three concurrent plots. There's the romantic plot, there's the revenge plot with the IRS and there's the mystery plot regarding Imp's brother. I'm not convinced, however that Plot 2 and Plot 3 aren't interlinked somehow (although so far there's no evidence for that); it seems just too coincidental for both of them, both bringing back issues from her past, to hit her in the same weekend,

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Sir Lee has some interesting points about the various plot threads that are going on right now, One thing that may be happening is that someone involved with the IRS is also involved in the gallery issue without knowing that it will involve Imp. Somehow, I suspect that if Imp shows up hurt again, Dino may smell the person who did the hurting on her... Oh and Williams who already has some of Razorback's ire better hope Razorback never ever figures out that he's responsible for Imp being depressed. Because I think that if I had a shipping crate right now I might ship Imp and Razorback...

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7 years 8 months ago #84 by Valentine

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JG wrote: Even were Imp the type to share, I doubt she'd let the kids in on what's happening.

To be honest? Razorback would be the worst outcast to involve in this fiasco for the IRS.

No, I don't expect Imp to get any students involved, she wouldn't put any child in danger if she could avoid it. And I agree that Razorback would be the worst Outcast to get involved.

My point about Caitlin is that, opposed to Mrs. Carson, Tabby Cat, or any of the other "heroes" at Whateley, Caitlin is not going to hold back, whichever group of people she went with they would stomp the "IRS" into the mud. Mrs. Carson might beat them up, but she would be more interested in capturing them, arresting them, and all that. Caitlin is more in the lesson teaching, for the survivors business. From the bit we learned about SSG Wilson, he might want in on it too.

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konzill wrote: So seeing as she is sitting at the table with SuperHawk and Falcon, neither of whom can say anything so as not to blow their secret identity, how many bird jokes do you all think Imp made?

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So is a bird in the hand worth two at the table?

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Which do you suppose is best for hawking? A hawk or a falcon?

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Valentine wrote: So is a bird in the hand worth two at the table?

as long as you don't count your chicken hawks before they hatch,.

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I say, I say boy, that's not how you do it.

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An idea occurred to me, what if the girl who stole Jericho's wardrobe isn't doing it willingly... Such as Starbright.

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mhalpern wrote: An idea occurred to me, what if the girl who stole Jericho's wardrobe isn't doing it willingly... Such as Starbright.

As in Alyss put her in clothes that were without a way of getting out of them without cutting them off? That sounds like something she would enjoy doing quite a bit! I could also see her putting Dimbulb in a Jericho inspired onsie with no zipper!

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Anne wrote: I can see it now, for some reason Ayla and Jade as his assistant must be in New York City for business. Somehow their business corresponds with Imp being there. And for some reason (not yet defined) Ayla and Jade are in the neighborhood when the IRS begins chasing Imp. They don't realize that it is Imp being chased at first but get involved to protect civilians since the IRS is so focused on getting Imp that they are injuring or even killing civilians.
Those who Ayla doesn't take down, Jade slices and dices!

Oo, oo, oo. Ayla is in town on Business. Stops in at an Art Gallery, to check out potential investment worthy art. Gallery belongs to Imp's brother.

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The problem with that, from a storytelling perspective, is that this is a story about Imp. Ayla and Jade have no personal connection to her. I'm not saying they wouldn't help if they were in a situation to do so, but that's just who they are, not a consequence of Imp's growth. Having them play any significant role right now would weaken her story. Imp's problems need to be resolved either by herself, or by the people she has established significant relationships with.

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Well, could Mischief get herself onto a plane though theft, document copying, etc, and follow her dad while he's following her mother-figure person?

And if anyone else is going with her, (presumably Monkeywrench) we ship them? 'Cause BattleCouple etc?

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Well, while Mischief has expressed no interest in sex or such relationships, I somehow expect that she would probably see Monkey Wrench as a very good shipping partner.

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Kettlekorn wrote: The problem with that, from a storytelling perspective, is that this is a story about Imp. Ayla and Jade have no personal connection to her. I'm not saying they wouldn't help if they were in a situation to do so, but that's just who they are, not a consequence of Imp's growth. Having them play any significant role right now would weaken her story. Imp's problems need to be resolved either by herself, or by the people she has established significant relationships with.

True, so if anyone from the school interferes I would expect that Lady Astarte will be the one to do it. She may or may not send someone to shadow Imp (like Tabby Cat) but somehow even though it happened off school grounds I imagine that she (Mrs Carson) sees an attack on any of her teachers as a violation of neutrality. Of course eventually Imp and the Secret Squirrels probably dance a few more times with Barny as the instigator with as much plausible deniability as possible. Which may lead to Carson ejecting him eventually....

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If Mrs. C sends anybody to watch over the Imp, it will be someone that the Imp can't spot.

It will likely involve magic. (Although planting one of the J team on her could work as well

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Ms. Carson wouldn't involve a student except if she sees a very urgent need and no other option available. It does happen; it happened last Halloween, it happened again when the Voodoo Wolves attacked (although in both cases it was more of a matter of external attacks to the campus), and again when she mounted the extradimensional rescue. But I somehow don't think Jade would be her only option for giving covert support to Imp. She has extensive contacts in the NY super community, she has a staff with many talented professionals, she has a top-notch security force. She has LOTS of options.

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The only real way i would expect to see Cait involved against the IRS...Is at the helm of a REACT team. The intent clear..." You will respect Whatley's neutrality..." Gun barrel diplomacy.

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And this isn't a neutrality issue.

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It's a personal issue for Imp... technically. But I think Carson would still support her teacher, however covertly. Not with students, but she would. She hired Imp, she invested in Imp, she wants Imp to bring art to her school... Imp cannot do that if she is dead or miserable, and if the IRS isn't stopped (by Imp or somebody else) one of those two is likely. So Carson will do something.

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Kettlekorn wrote: And this isn't a neutrality issue.

True, but it is still interfering with a Whateley teacher and the running of Whateley. So Carson would likely be ready to assist her teacher if asked, or if she believes that Imp cannot handle it herself.

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The only thing Mrs Carson needs to do is make a call to the Syndicate and explain things. And have them " Talk" with the IRS. I'm sure a deal could be made. And if the conversation was worded correctly Imp wouldn't take such a huge negative hit to her rep.

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If Imp has to get help from anyone to deal with the bottom-of-the-barrel, crash-test-dummy, sad sack wannabes who can't even make it at Imp's level, then it doesn't matter. her rep will suffer.

If imp brings allies and handles it with the usual grade of aplomb she does things with? She's solid.

But Imp having carson do ANYTHING and word getting out would mark her as not only a has-been, but an easy target.

Prison Yard rules apply in this situation.

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Agreed.
That's why I said Carson would only step in if asked, or it became necessary. As a hero she knows all about how important face is, especially for supervillains.
And I doubt Imp needs the help beyond Chicken Hawk, who has a known personal stake in this through Jackass. Even with every possible advantage, they still had Imp escape, now that she's going after them they are in for a world of hurt.

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Yolandria wrote: The only thing Mrs Carson needs to do is make a call to the Syndicate and explain things. And have them " Talk" with the IRS. I'm sure a deal could be made. And if the conversation was worded correctly Imp wouldn't take such a huge negative hit to her rep.

Jack Rabbit and Crimson Kid aren't villains, and it is somewhat doubtful that the other three are up to date with their dues, CTD might be. So there isn't anything the Syndicate could do.

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Also, kudos to Morpheus for making the title of the story a pun!

The story includes both a date and an anniversary.

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But is she late?

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null0trooper wrote: But is she late?

Not yet, but if the IRS has their way she will be.

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Arcanist Lupus wrote:
null0trooper wrote: But is she late?

Not yet, but if the IRS has their way she will be.

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null0trooper wrote: But is she late?

No, but Alyss is.

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null0trooper wrote:
Arcanist Lupus wrote:
null0trooper wrote: But is she late?

Not yet, but if the IRS has their way she will be.

That sometimes happens, when you go chasing rabbits.

No, I mean 'late' as in the late Kadechristinekade.

It's a sort of threat, you see. I've never been terribly good at them myself but I'm told they can be terribly effective.

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One-on-one power tutoring. Not often we get to see that, but it should be interesting.

How much do you want to bet that the gallery will be getting a lot of Candice Kade works soon? I wonder if people will make the connection of the last name with the primary owner.

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Still reading it through but one small nit to pick: ludacris is the rapper. I'm thinking you want the word ludicrous instead...

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Angeldude wrote: One-on-one power tutoring. Not often we get to see that, but it should be interesting.

How much do you want to bet that the gallery will be getting a lot of Candice Kade works soon? I wonder if people will make the connection of the last name with the primary owner.

Maybe. But I didn't get the impression that Imp really wants to reconnect with her brother more than she already has, and I'm not seeing an advantage to showing her paintings there rather than at her established haunts.

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Danny stared at me for several long seconds with a strange expression on his face. “It might not be my place anymore,” he said carefully. “But that kind of life sounds like it might be lonely.”
“You’re right,” I replied. “It isn’t your place.”
“Are you alone?” Danny asked, giving me a look of concern and pity. “Do you have anyone in your life?” When I didn’t answer, he asked, “How can you live like that?”

I get the impression that it's Danny Boy who's feeling lonely. I have to wonder how many of his dreams he had to sell off just to be taken for granted as the Good Son.

Chris shook his head at that and let out another sigh. At one point, he’d been the best athlete in his entire school, and it had seemed like he was destined for fame and glory on the football field. But then, he’d manifested as a mutant, and was no longer allowed to compete. All his dreams had crumbled to dust, until he’d found a new dream.

Turns out life's not like a football game, where the playing field's all levelled before the game, the stats on the trading cards are all consistent, the padding's guaranteed to take the hit, and on any given Friday night your team can win. Speaking of folks being sold a second-hand dream...

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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #118 by mhalpern

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Arcanist Lupus wrote:
Angeldude wrote: One-on-one power tutoring. Not often we get to see that, but it should be interesting.

How much do you want to bet that the gallery will be getting a lot of Candice Kade works soon? I wonder if people will make the connection of the last name with the primary owner.
Maybe. But I didn't get the impression that Imp really wants to reconnect with her brother more than she already has, and I'm not seeing an advantage to showing her paintings there rather than at her established haunts.

True but work by famous forgers can go for quite a lot, not as much as the original its true, but Danny can get some respectable business as Imp signed her forgeries with a special signature, especially with her better work, and in a gallery he could have it set up to show a story behind them, creating intrigue, worth more than the art itself, as it can bring more than just art nuts in the door.

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A fantastic update.
Snark fighting at its best, some family issues, seeing a hero and villains settling things sensibly rather than simply punching away their problems, Imp gets a new student, Carson shows off her sense of humour, Aegis gets beaten up and humiliated, Unstoppable gets set on fire, and Mischief gets pranked.

I couldn't ask for more.

Edit: And Hashtag would be an awesome code name.

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Domoviye wrote: Edit: And Hashtag would be an awesome code name.

It an octothorpe !

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7 years 7 months ago #122 by Sir Lee

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You know, we think the term "hashtag" has been around forever, but its usage in Twitter had barely started when Imp mentioned it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashtag#Origin_and_use
Which means that the Fabulous Imp had her finger firmly on the pulse of the language...

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konzill wrote:
peter wrote:
Domoviye wrote: It's too bad Imp couldn't get the day off. She needed it.
Lots of stuff happening here, need a chance to digest all of it, so I'll just say it's the usual top notch work, and leave it there for now.

I wonder next year if she'll find her class schedule gives her that day, or week, off?

By this time next year, she will already be pregnant.

Don't you mean... imp-regnated? Mua ha ha haaaaa!

Seriously though, I think the most interesting question on chapter 3 is "who the heck is this Asterisk?" He's the Bizarro World Imp. Where did he come from and why has she never heard of him until now? He seems to have some sort of personal connection to her that inspired him to be the way he is. But how so? I seriously doubt it's Danny. He seems far too straight-laced to be hiding something of this caliber. A time-traveling alternate-dimension version of her possible future kid? Who knows?

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7 years 7 months ago #124 by Domoviye

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pumpernickel wrote:
konzill wrote:
peter wrote:
Domoviye wrote: It's too bad Imp couldn't get the day off. She needed it.
Lots of stuff happening here, need a chance to digest all of it, so I'll just say it's the usual top notch work, and leave it there for now.

I wonder next year if she'll find her class schedule gives her that day, or week, off?

By this time next year, she will already be pregnant.

Don't you mean... imp-regnated? Mua ha ha haaaaa!

Seriously though, I think the most interesting question on chapter 3 is "who the heck is this Astericks?" He's the Bizarro World Imp. Where did he come from and why has she never heard of him until now? He seems to have some sort of personal connection to her that inspired him to be the way he is. But how so? I seriously doubt it's Danny. He seems far too straight-laced to be hiding something of this caliber. A time-traveling alternate-dimension version of her possible future kid? Who knows?

Relatively new hero in a small city, he'd have to do something huge to reach national recognition.
And it can't be Danny, otherwise he'd be investigating himself.

I'd say he saw Imp on the news a few times taunting heroes, read about her antics and thought they were cool. So when he began training to be a hero he tried to be like her. His powers while cool and very useful aren't exactly fantastic for taking down big threats, he needs an edge, and Imp showed him the way.

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Given Imp's age, and that Danny Boy is older, could Asterisk be the Imp's nephew?

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Domoviye wrote: A fantastic update.
Snark fighting at its best, some family issues, seeing a hero and villains settling things sensibly rather than simply punching away their problems, Imp gets a new student, Carson shows off her sense of humour, Aegis gets beaten up and humiliated, Unstoppable gets set on fire, and Mischief gets pranked.

I couldn't ask for more.

Edit: And Hashtag would be an awesome code name.

Nah, what we need is a hero, The Mighty Tilde (~).

I found the * to be interesting, but the whole save her brother to be a bit anticlimactic. It seemed to be over to quick, hopefully there will be more.

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annachie wrote: Given Imp's age, and that Danny Boy is older, could Asterisk be the Imp's nephew?

Could be, though my guess is that he's Danny himself.

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Imp vs. Aegis was great, and I loved the interplay between her and Asterisk. From the scene with Danny, I'm also thinking there was more going on with her family than she realized.

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Kettlekorn wrote:
annachie wrote: Given Imp's age, and that Danny Boy is older, could Asterisk be the Imp's nephew?
Could be, though my guess is that he's Danny himself.

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I think this whole thing was a ruse designed to give him an excuse to interact with his sister in both of his identities, the goal being to get a better measure of who she actually is and how he might go about mending bridges. Even the bit with the money launderers was a test -- would she just kill them, or find a more peaceful solution?

Somebody needs to introduce Melissa to this guy:

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Imp vs. Aegis was great, and I loved the interplay between her and Asterisk. From the scene with Danny, I'm also thinking there was more going on with her family than she realized.

Wouldn't it just be easier to introduce her to Fractious?

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7 years 7 months ago #129 by Sir Lee

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No, that would be cruel. Fractious would bring out the wire brushes, the industrial-strength solvents, the high-pressure water pumps, the steam cleaners... I don't think Mischief is a regen.

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7 years 7 months ago #130 by pumpernickel

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Kettlekorn wrote:
annachie wrote: Given Imp's age, and that Danny Boy is older, could Asterisk be the Imp's nephew?
Could be, though my guess is that he's Danny himself.

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I think this whole thing was a ruse designed to give him an excuse to interact with his sister in both of his identities, the goal being to get a better measure of who she actually is and how he might go about mending bridges. Even the bit with the money launderers was a test -- would she just kill them, or find a more peaceful solution?

That's was my thought on the whole scheme if he WERE Asterisk, but I his age seems to preclude him from actually being him.

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pumpernickel wrote: That's was my thought on the whole scheme if he WERE Asterisk, but I his age seems to preclude him from actually being him.

We don't actually know Asterisk's age.

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7 years 7 months ago #132 by peter

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Kettlekorn wrote:
pumpernickel wrote: That's was my thought on the whole scheme if he WERE Asterisk, but I his age seems to preclude him from actually being him.
We don't actually know Asterisk's age.

Obviously it's a time traveling Aegis.

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To be honest, the thing I'm most looking forward to is the incoming Team Awesome's crime(bully)-fighting adventures!

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So far, I have been very impressed with this particular series. Morpheus has been consistently putting out good work in my opinion.

I was going to comment on the page with the story itself, but the system told me that I was using excessive verbage, thus, I'll put my thoughts here as it appears to be the proper place.

Several comments expressed surprise at the Imp having an MID, as well as the multiple MID angle. Others noted the MCO control over MIDs.

My thoughts on the matter are that the MID issuing process appears to have two distinct phases. Testing first, then coding and issuing the MID itself.

Considering the Imp's previous career and her own abilities in regards to crafting believable forgeries, I would think she would have no problem getting MID's that say whatever she wants. I also suspect that any official testing she had would have been done at Whateley, not an MCO office (for obvious reasons, they would like to catch an actual criminal). To me, that means that there were multiple opportunities to give the MCO false data. Based on her career she would have the necessary connections to alter any electronic files before they were sent to the MCO. If a paper file was submitted instead, she has the ability to get that file and substitute it with another that says what she wants it to say. Then there is the possible collusion angle, where other members at Whateley aid her in deceiving the MCO (on orders from Hartford or Carson for example, or as a result of a bribe from the Imp). The MCO could be well and truly in the dark about what powers the Imp actually has.

Another comment mentioned the possibility of Carson having secret files detailing the powers of her employees. I think that highly likely. She would want to know who could do what and of anything that might be a problem later in some particular circumstance. Keeping files other than "official" files is a common theme in the "real world". Students have a "permanent record" that follows them class to class and grade to grade. Every teacher also keeps individual records on students, but once a student is out of their class, has graduated, or after a certain period of time, those files are destroyed. The same is true in the US military as well.

So, did the Imp reveal her actual powers as determined by legitimate testing? Maybe, it appears she did (based on her habits of being at least mostly honest and caring about students). Does the MCO have that information? Maybe, but I wouldn't count on it.

All that being said... Great story so far and I look forward to reading more. Partially because these stories are well written but also because they are easier to follow than digging in the archives and trying to put stories in a proper order that makes sense when trying to follow a particular character.

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I believe she stated that shedidn't have an MID, that they were all fakes.

She also implied that she'd worked out her ratings herself.

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That was implied. She cleary has many false MID's. That is certainly in keeping with her past career as well. I figured there might be a legitimate MID (or mostly legit) based on the "agreement" between Whateley and the MCO. As I recall, all the folks at Whateley that are mutants have to have a MID or go elsewhere if they refuse. I think that was from a story about the end of fall semester during an address by Carson to the freshmen/new students. Now, admitedly, that was directed to students. But my sense of logic and my own experience with the government strongly suggests that such a requirement would apply to all mutants at Whateley, staff included.

Going from that point, my sense of logic dictates that at least some degree of testing would be required for new staff that did not already have a valid MID. Additionally, I suspect that Carson would have demanded that power testing be part of the agreement for the Imp to become a teacher, if for no other reason than for Carson to know what she would be dealing with if things went sour.

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Domoviye wrote: A fantastic update.
Snark fighting at its best, some family issues, seeing a hero and villains settling things sensibly rather than simply punching away their problems, Imp gets a new student, Carson shows off her sense of humour, Aegis gets beaten up and humiliated, Unstoppable gets set on fire, and Mischief gets pranked.

I couldn't ask for more.

Edit: And Hashtag would be an awesome code name.

Not since November it wouldn't be

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Hash Slinging Slasher comes alone, Imp nicknames him "Hashtag"

Sphincter was a decent interlude of unexpected humor, but I quite enjoyed the general snarkiness and I'm sure, this being morpheus, that was not remotely the last we'll see of Danny Boy. Dollars to Donuts, he's got a kid or more, and one of them will manifest in spectacular fashion...

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Iwasforger03 wrote: Hash Slinging Slasher comes alone, Imp nicknames him "Hashtag"

Sphincter was a decent interlude of unexpected humor, but I quite enjoyed the general snarkiness and I'm sure, this being morpheus, that was not remotely the last we'll see of Danny Boy. Dollars to Donuts, he's got a kid or more, and one of them will manifest in spectacular fashion...

Good work as ever, Morpheus, looking forward to more!

based on the ages of Danny and Imp I would think it would be more likely it would be a grandchild than a child. Unless he had a late in age kid. He'd be what, in his fifties. Depending when he had a kid it's not out of line for him to have a Grandkid just coming up on the dangerous years.

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My memory isn't what it once was (I don't have alzheimer's...I have old-timers). But as I recall, Imp has had about 35 years in business and manifested as a teen. That puts her near 50. Danny is the older sibling, so let's go with say 55. The average age for entering puberty ranges from 10 to 16 years of age. A man fathering a child at the age of about 39 is not exactly rare, particularly if he has had multiple marriages. Indeed, several studies show that the average age of first time fathers has been increasing.. As of 2010 white males becoming fathers for the first time averaged 28 years of age. From 1980 to 2014 the percentage of males waiting until after age 35 to father their first child increased by 58%. So a child just manifesting is not out of the question. A grandchild would also not be unreasonable, assuming he went to college and graduated before fathering a child, Danny would be about 22, add a year for finding a mate and the gestation period gives us 23...assume a child followed the same pattern and you are up to 46 years, that leaves a difference of 9 years, which corresponds to the lower side of the average age for entering puberty (so long as we ignore the outliers which have been recorded at ages as young as 6 for females entering puberty). So a child of high school age manifesting or a grandchild of about 4th grade age manifesting are both possible.

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Pretty close. She was 14 when she manifested in 1977, 15 when she got into the business officially, and operated for 30 years, making her 45. But she only ages at about half the normal rate, so she's physically about 30. And Danny is four years older than her, so he's 49.

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My apologies for the incorrect figures, I shall endeavor to be more accurate in the future. Also, thank you for the correct numbers. That would alter my results substantially.

With average ages for puberty at 10-16, and Danny at 49, that would put him having a child somewhere between the age of 34-39 (for his own child to be manifesting). It would make a grandchild unlikely by my scenario, unless he had a child prior to graduating college (or if he graduated early, I think the youngest college graduate was 10 years old), but assuming he had one at age 18, then his child did the same, his grandchild would be 13, which would be in the middle of the average age for entering puberty. The child manifesting as a mutant scenario seems far more probable.

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Hey, no need to apologize. Thanks for doing the math. I agree it's entirely possible Asterisk could be Danny's son.

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Though Danny could have a child about to manifest, that WOULD be fun,

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The Asterisk could be, but that would not seem to make any sense to me. Not unless he is 18+ years of age. In that scenario, if Danny is "anti-mutant" I could envision a child being resentful of him and wanting to "take him down". But in such a scenario, I can't imagine him being willing to back off to go after the money launderer, I would think he would still be intent on getting Danny instead. I think any direct familial connections between the Asterisk and Danny is most likely a red herring. I suspect instead that the Asterisk is a new hero and found a lead that just happened to end up tying him into the Imp. Any child (or grandchild) of Danny's I think would be a possible Whateley candidate if he/she manifest as a mutant, as Danny would likely call Imp to ask "what should I do?".

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mhalpern wrote: Though Danny could have a child about to manifest, that WOULD be fun,

That would be interesting to be sure. It appears to me that certain traits tend to be common in families. Would that mean that if Danny has a child that is a mutant that some sort of GSD would be more likely? Then, if the answer is yes, what form would it most likely take?

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The Astrix being a relative of Imp's is an appealing Idea, especially as they seem to have similar personalities. As to why Astrix allowed Imp to redirect him. Maybe he was only investigating his dad out of a sense of duty, so finding out that he wasn't actually involved in crime would have been a relief.

Assuming we are on the right track I can't wait for the eventual reveal when Imp finds out that Astrix is her nephew and vice versa.

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So, Imp owns a Art Gallery now...

Nice banter, with Asterisk!

Hmm... The popcorn bit, reminds me of Kettlekorn...

Aegis + Mischief Ship?

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Malady wrote: Hmm... The popcorn bit, reminds me of Kettlekorn...

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Malady wrote: Aegis + Mischief Ship?

I don't see that unless he gets a lot further over himself than he has shown the capability of so far. I mean really? Aegis is not quite a bully but only because he is so ineffective.

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Anne wrote:
Malady wrote: Aegis + Mischief Ship?

I don't see that unless he gets a lot further over himself than he has shown the capability of so far. I mean really? Aegis is not quite a bully but only because he is so ineffective.

He's being tutored by Imp, who might silently promote it,

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I suppose we shall see

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Anne wrote: I suppose we shall see

We have already seen Aegis start to change, he is accepting tutelage from a retired villain with GSD that gives her devilish good looks. And of the cape wannabees with a jock mindset, he is the most likely to be enlightened, shall we say. Its basically now established that he isn't strictly bigoted, just impressed upon by an anti gsd media. He's sees someone who looks like a monster that is going to effect his first instincts, he needs to learn to look before leaping is all. He has the right instincts, they are just a little misguided and he needs to learn to fight smarter. He is not doing it as an excuse to beat people up, as we have seen he routinely attempts the hero shield thing, even though he isn't brickish enough for that to be a good idea.

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mhalpern wrote:
Anne wrote: I suppose we shall see
We have already seen Aegis start to change, he is accepting tutelage from a retired villain with GSD that gives her devilish good looks. And of the cape wannabees with a jock mindset, he is the most likely to be enlightened, shall we say. Its basically now established that he isn't strictly bigoted, just impressed upon by an anti gsd media. He's sees someone who looks like a monster that is going to effect his first instincts, he needs to learn to look before leaping is all. He has the right instincts, they are just a little misguided and he needs to learn to fight smarter. He is not doing it as an excuse to beat people up, as we have seen he routinely attempts the hero shield thing, even though he isn't brickish enough for that to be a good idea.

The most dangerous result here would be that Imp teaches him to fight effectively, but he still jumps to conclusions and makes judgments based on first impressions. Right now he's not that dangerous, but he could be, very.

Training him to effectively use his powers is the easy part really. Teaching him to not be a bigot is a lot harder. Simply being in contact with Imp day to day, and likely other GSD students as she won't teach him in a vacuum might help. Or it might just cause him to think that there are exceptions, but most freak mutants are still dangerous and likely evil.

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Somebody wanted to ship Mischief (since I suppose she's Imp's apprentice) with Aegis. But unless he gets over the idea that she's just cute, then I don't see it. Also, I agree with you Peter, that if he learns to fight effectively and still retains the GSD=evil mindset, then he really will become what I said he is on the way to being, that is a bully. Each and every person must be approached individually.

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That was me. I ship.

'Cause really, has there been any POVC that hasn't had at least a crush on someone? Other than the Junior Highs, and even they, well, just Abra, had Stronghold, for like... one scene.

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peter wrote:
mhalpern wrote:
Anne wrote: I suppose we shall see
We have already seen Aegis start to change, he is accepting tutelage from a retired villain with GSD that gives her devilish good looks. And of the cape wannabees with a jock mindset, he is the most likely to be enlightened, shall we say. Its basically now established that he isn't strictly bigoted, just impressed upon by an anti gsd media. He's sees someone who looks like a monster that is going to effect his first instincts, he needs to learn to look before leaping is all. He has the right instincts, they are just a little misguided and he needs to learn to fight smarter. He is not doing it as an excuse to beat people up, as we have seen he routinely attempts the hero shield thing, even though he isn't brickish enough for that to be a good idea.

The most dangerous result here would be that Imp teaches him to fight effectively, but he still jumps to conclusions and makes judgments based on first impressions. Right now he's not that dangerous, but he could be, very.

Training him to effectively use his powers is the easy part really. Teaching him to not be a bigot is a lot harder. Simply being in contact with Imp day to day, and likely other GSD students as she won't teach him in a vacuum might help. Or it might just cause him to think that there are exceptions, but most freak mutants are still dangerous and likely evil.

True however it is more likely that his GSD = evil mindset will break, and as I said he isn't strictly a bigot, his best friend is openly bi, which is part of why I have hope for him,

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mhalpern wrote:
Anne wrote:
Malady wrote: Aegis + Mischief Ship?

I don't see that unless he gets a lot further over himself than he has shown the capability of so far. I mean really? Aegis is not quite a bully but only because he is so ineffective.

He's being tutored by Imp, who might silently promote it,

I could picture her giving it a shot. Aegis is in desperate need of learning to stop rushing to judgement and ignoring the facts of the environment around him. Also to lighten the fark up if he wants more people to like him. Mischief somewhat desperately needs to stop chasing her impulses so much and maybe engage people more as people than as props and playmates.

Them working together as a team (maybe with Maxine and Jon?) could be a nightmare for folks around them - which I heartily approve of

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MM2ss wrote: The Asterisk could be, but that would not seem to make any sense to me. Not unless he is 18+ years of age. In that scenario, if Danny is "anti-mutant" I could envision a child being resentful of him and wanting to "take him down". But in such a scenario, I can't imagine him being willing to back off to go after the money launderer, I would think he would still be intent on getting Danny instead. I think any direct familial connections between the Asterisk and Danny is most likely a red herring. I suspect instead that the Asterisk is a new hero and found a lead that just happened to end up tying him into the Imp. Any child (or grandchild) of Danny's I think would be a possible Whateley candidate if he/she manifest as a mutant, as Danny would likely call Imp to ask "what should I do?".

There is a pretty interesting line in this segment of this story, where Imp accuses Danny of always being the favorite and he lashes back out at her for, 'not understanding anything.' Then she blows him off before he can explain and walks away.

She never listens to what he has to say about him or their parents. She made up her mind about them when she ran away at 15.

The authors have been reminding us that the entire Whateley Universe is a bunch of unreliable narrator accounts. Imp's parents were afraid and did hide her away and try to "fix" her, but after she ran away, we have no idea what happened because Imp doesn't either and hasn't asked. She assumes.

But Danny knows, and has been trying to tell her. He was more horrified that she became an unabashed supervillain, instead of having issues any with her mutation.

Danny doesn't know where she works now. For all we know, Imp's niece or nephew may already be at the school. Perhaps she's even taught them. If so, Carson hasn't told her for the same reason they kept Caitlin from her little sister and visiting mother for a little while. It would cause more problems until Imp has sort of figured who she wants Imp the Teacher to be.

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True Katssun. To a teenager being locked away and operated on would likely cause them to feel one way. Even if the goals of the parents were noble.

I seem to recall something of a saying along the lines of, "There are three sides to any story, my side, your side and the truth".

To Imp what she went through with her parents and her perception of the situation marks them down firmly in the "bad" category. But it is possible that the parents were trying to protect her in some way, perhaps not in the best way but the only way they knew how (though I think chopping of my tail, if I had one, would cause me some strong psychological issues). But how did the parents react after she headed out on her own?

As you say, Danny knows, but the Imp does not.

That could well be the seed for future installments. Now, with some sort of at least non-hostile relations reestablished between Imp and Danny, and the possibility of a niece or nephew at Whateley, we could be heading straight for an epic saga. All without revealing any details ahead of time.

She does seem to still have feeling for her family, so it isn't like she is a sociopath, there is lots of potential for recovering the familial relationship with Danny and any potential offspring he has. That being said, her reactions remind me of how many of us on the submarine reacted. Living in extremely close quarters means you have no personal space really (hot racking comes to mind). Our common defense was to become intensely private in regard to our feelings and home lives. It is hard to break through a Submariners shield of privacy to get to the person on the inside. Imp seems to be much the same. It would take time for Danny to earn the level of trust needed to get Imp to fully open up. However, a niece or nephew might be able to shortcut through a great deal of that. There would be no "bad" memories involving the niece or nephew, so if Danny does have a child at Whateley (or one that ends up there) and reveals the relationship to the Imp, that could open the flood gates and result in a very fast and strong bond between Imp and the kid.

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MM2ss wrote: The Asterisk could be, but that would not seem to make any sense to me. Not unless he is 18+ years of age. In that scenario, if Danny is "anti-mutant" I could envision a child being resentful of him and wanting to "take him down". But in such a scenario, I can't imagine him being willing to back off to go after the money launderer, I would think he would still be intent on getting Danny instead. I think any direct familial connections between the Asterisk and Danny is most likely a red herring. I suspect instead that the Asterisk is a new hero and found a lead that just happened to end up tying him into the Imp. Any child (or grandchild) of Danny's I think would be a possible Whateley candidate if he/she manifest as a mutant, as Danny would likely call Imp to ask "what should I do?".

Asterisk could be Danny's child. But who says Danny has to know this or even that he has a kid. Asterisk's mom could have never told Danny about him.

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Possible. Assuming Asterisk to be at least 18 would mean Danny was 31 at the time of birth. Well within the range. But it seems somewhat unlikely that the mother would not make any contact to me. That may just be because of my own biases and the way I was raised. But unless it was a one night stand type of situation, it just doesn't seem to fit to me.

Now, we didn't get much background on Danny. He could be out sowing wild oats all the time. That would be highly contrary to how the family life was portrayed, and would mark a substantial deviation. Possible, but again, to me, it seems unlikely. Danny seems to be a mostly respectable sort and seems to still hold a great deal of admiration and respect for his parents. I just don't see him going out and doing such things.

As for the no contact bit. Yes, possible. But my logic sense says that the mother would likely at least try to get medical history and child support. Medical history if nothing else...particularly with the evidently greater frequency of mutant manifestations (unless the mother was already from a family with a history of mutants).

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MM2ss wrote: Possible. Assuming Asterisk to be at least 18 would mean Danny was 31 at the time of birth. Well within the range. But it seems somewhat unlikely that the mother would not make any contact to me. That may just be because of my own biases and the way I was raised. But unless it was a one night stand type of situation, it just doesn't seem to fit to me.

My experience with alcoholism (among other things) in the family has been that some breakups can be bitter to the point of making sure a biological father never is allowed contact with his children, grandchildren, etc. It's not unknown for the offender to clean up their act to the point that no one would have reason to believe things could have gotten that bad.

I can even understand Christine's parents eventually realizing how much they'd thrown away and cost their remaining child, but either having too much pride or guilt to do anything constructive about it before their own lives ran out.

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I have seen similar situations at times. No contact orders are not all that uncommon either. But in every case I observed both parents knew of all involved children. I suppose a child born after the breakup might be hidden however.

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I just don't see Asterisk being Danny's kid.
If he was that bitter to want to throw his own father into jail, I don't think he'd so wise ass about his work. Also it would be simple for him to steal his dads keys and passwords, break into the office and walk out with the ledgers to hand over to police. The whole charade of being a superhero unrelated to Danny is unnecessary.
As for being a long lost child, again it just doesn't ring true to me for the reasons above. A simple way to get the ledgers is to reunite with his father, get him drunk as they celebrate, and go through his files that way.
Simple is almost always better than complicated, and always better than ultra complex plots with unneeded complications.

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Sir Lee wrote: Also, "respectable-looking" sometimes just means "good at hiding their debauchery." Look up, for instance, this page .

The problem with letting others see the debauchery is that then everybody wants in on the fun.

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If we really want Mini Sphincter to be the spawn of a Major Sphincter, I'm pretty sure Barney is thusly equipped.

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Kettlekorn wrote: If we really want Mini Sphincter to be the spawn of a Major Sphincter, I'm pretty sure Barney is thusly equipped.

Major Asshole is in the wrong universe...he is a Spaceball.

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Such a fun read, and so glad the Imp has found true love. Hope it lasts and does not turn into an origin story for Mischief. ^_^

I guess next chapter we get to see just how stupid the IMP revenge squad is. Will they dare try to strike out at her at Whateley? Surely at least one of them must know how incredibly stupid that would be?

Or are they all clueless and think it's just a hidden freak school that depends on secrecy for protection?

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peter wrote: Such a fun read, and so glad the Imp has found true love. Hope it lasts and does not turn into an origin story for Mischief. ^_^

I guess next chapter we get to see just how stupid the IMP revenge squad is. Will they dare try to strike out at her at Whateley? Surely at least one of them must know how incredibly stupid that would be?

Or are they all clueless and think it's just a hidden freak school that depends on secrecy for protection?

Yeah, that last line just has me thinking "You know, this isn't going to work out quite how you're hoping. Just wanted to let you guys know that." Knowing where Imp is doesn't help you get revenge when where she is happens to be Whateley. Rather the opposite. Picking a fight with a retired supervillain is probably fine, or at least as fine as picking a fight with a retired supervillain ever is, even if she's a Whateley teacher. Picking a fight with a Whateley teacher with full knowledge, and likely going to Whateley to do it? Very different story.

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Halfway through the story I was thinking that if Imp waited much longer to reveal her secret identity to Chickenhawk (It feels weird whenever someone refers to him as Superhawk in the story) there was going to be trouble. I'm pleased to see that she took my advice.

Disappointed that we didn't get any more clues as to what is twisting Heaven's knickers, but hopefully we'll find out a bit more in the next installment.

All and all, a great conclusion to an excellent story!

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You know I kinda want to see them try to use Ribbon as a hostage, because despite appearances, she'd be the worst hostage EVER...

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mhalpern wrote: You know I kinda want to see them try to use Ribbon as a hostage, because despite appearances, she'd be the worst hostage EVER...

No, I'm pretty sure the Imp would actually be the worst hostage ever.

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May I point out that we've already seen Jade used as a hostage. It ended with the zombification of half a Syndicate base and three fairies wielding a RPG.

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I have a problem, I don't know which part I like best.
The IRS getting beaten was great.
The date was sweet.
Imp revealing her real identity was so nice.
And Danny keeping the posters for imp after all those years was practically a tear jerker.
Fantastic.

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I ALMOST feel bad for these clowns. Everything up to this point has been, while petty and ill-advised, not really a problem. They all have a grudge against Imp, so they team up to attack her. Fair enough. But now they're going to go attack her at Whateley? That's just downright suicidal. It'd be like putting on a shirt that says "I'm a terrorist", grabbing a replica gun, and just strolling up to the Pentagon or Cheyenne Mountain or something.

It's possible none of them knows what the place is, though they referred to it by name, so it sounds like they do. They didn't say, "some school in New Hampshire" or even "some school called Whateley Academy". But even if none of them know the place, surely ONE of them would do research on it before they attack and realize it's a no go. But then they wouldn't do it and we wouldn't have this cliffhanger for want of Chekhov's Gun. So I guess we're going to see how it plays out because right now it seems like the only way they could straight up attack the place would be with inhuman lack of forethought and end very quickly and very badly for them (none of them is exactly a juggernaut. Two don't even have powers [or a full set of limbs].) The only thing I can think of would be for them to try something sneaky like hiring a student to do something underhanded, but that seems fairly uncharacteristic for all of these impulsive idiots. Either way, they're going to join forces with Williams.

And speaking of the ol' dinosaur, based on the fact that Jack Ass found out where Imp was from some outside source, I think that pretty firmly confirms that Heaven has no connection to Williams. Though we DID get another mention of the whiskey stolen from Bruce Goodkind. I'm still pulling for THAT to be the big thing she wants revenge for. Like, she was a member of the extended Goodkind family, a niece or stepcousin or a father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roomate or something, hiding that she was secretly a mutant, and through some Rube Goldberg-esque sequence of events beginning with the whiskey theft, she was exposed and cast out.

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Domoviye wrote: I have a problem, I don't know which part I like best.
The IRS getting beaten was great.
The date was sweet.
Imp revealing her real identity was so nice.
And Danny keeping the posters for imp after all those years was practically a tear jerker.
Fantastic.

Well said.

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I try to think of the worst thing that will happen to the IRS when they try to violate Whateley neutrality by taking one of her students hostage, or just attacking her in the village...and I can't. There's just so many options. Find out where Wildhammer retired, simply get body locked by the world's most powerful psychic, get eviscerated by Jack, etc.

I'm guessing that one of them will acquire Williams' help, and that will finally end him.

It's nice that Imp finally got her groove back after 15 years.

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I have to agree with Dom, at least until I got to the bottom of the page where there was an ad for Imp 6 with the picture being Carrie Fisher from Blues Brothers.

I realize that this is an Imp story, but I so want to see one of the Whateley "Teams" take out the IRS. I am just trying to decide which group should do it.

1. Aquerna leading the Underdogs.
2. The Unstoppable Three
3. Mischief, Monkeywrench, Darqueheart, and Aegis.
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5. Team Awesome (completely unfair fight)
6. The Vindicators (might be a fair fight)

Back to the story.

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Or they could try to attack through the forest or tunnels and are never heard from again.

Say anyone want to lay odds as to whether or not the Imp gets sick in the morning?

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I feel I should point out that just because they know that Imp is at Whateley doesn't automatically mean that they are going to try a full frontal assault. There's more than one way to skin a cat, even one as tricky as Imp.

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NJM1564 wrote: Say anyone want to lay odds as to whether or not the Imp gets sick in the morning?

Well, Imp is a regenerator, so her internal damage may have been more thoroughly repaired than she thought.

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NJM1564 wrote: Say anyone want to lay odds as to whether or not the Imp gets sick in the morning?
Well, Imp is a regenerator, so her internal damage may have been more thoroughly repaired than she thought.

I get the feeling that Imp believe's that she lost her chance because what happened ended her relationship along with the pregnancy, and she never thought she would be in another relationship like that.

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Valentine wrote: I have to agree with Dom, at least until I got to the bottom of the page where there was an ad for Imp 6 with the picture being Carrie Fisher from Blues Brothers.

I realize that this is an Imp story, but I so want to see one of the Whateley "Teams" take out the IRS. I am just trying to decide which group should do it.

It depends on how they approach the problem. Assuming they find out which "lanes" are allowed from Syndicate sources, they could at least bypass the Mediwhela weres. Then the question becomes whether their intel and bank books are good enough to get past Third Platoon. They may be baselines, but they aren't mooks.

Valentine wrote: 1. Aquerna leading the Underdogs.

As with Security, Aquerna's been a great example of what proper training will get you. Too bad we don't see them hanging together except at lunch and in their clubhouse room. But even some of those who don't have power or strong kung fu still have evasion training. It could be fun.

Valentine wrote: 2. The Unstoppable Three

Now with more Pucelle!

It might be fun to see how Vamp, Murphy, and Nacht grade the antics.

Valentine wrote: 3. Mischief, Monkeywrench, Darqueheart, and Aegis.

Maybe on a later outing? Of course the IRS is still healing up, so that could still work.

Valentine wrote: 4. The Three Little Witches

The Cutettes (Abra, Clover, Palantir, Mischief, Pounce, and maybe "the white-and-blue haired Sidhe girl in Dickinson") vs. the IRS?

That could be cheerfully demented.

Valentine wrote: 5. Team Awesome (completely unfair fight)

That could easily become a dark story with one of the kids being hurt badly, or having to deal with having killed one or more people.

Valentine wrote: 6. The Vindicators (might be a fair fight)

Personal head canon: Metro and Kismet have an arbitrated bet (to be decided after combat finals) going as to whether on average the Vindicators could have beaten Metro and Valravn in their bank heist scenario. Max and Thomas have taken Mads' side ("Of course! No plan survives unchanged after first contact!"), Pam and Simone vividly remember near-drowning and near-electrocution and side with Korrende ("Regrettably, no.") - and no one cares what Alvin or Pers think.

I'd nominate the Spy Kidz as an interesting match-up: even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

Or Greasy & Peeper vs IRS, televised on WARS, commemorative posters available TBD.

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He just has to remember to keep his head.

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7 years 7 months ago - 7 years 7 months ago #189 by annachie

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I suspect the Whateley angle will end up more along the lines of arranging for someone (Barney) to let the IRS know when she leaves campus, or someone (Barney) luring her off campus.

Possibly involving Mischief.

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7 years 7 months ago #190 by konzill

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The causes of death will be recorded as suicide.

7 years 7 months ago #191 by Hardric

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Valentine wrote: 1. Aquerna leading the Underdogs.
2. The Unstoppable Three
3. Mischief, Monkeywrench, Darqueheart, and Aegis.
4. The Three Little Witches
5. Team Awesome (completely unfair fight)
6. The Vindicators (might be a fair fight)

Naah, Kismet is the only real load inside their team, so I'd say any of these six fights is an unfair one. As for my option on the 'Suicide by Whateley' (Sweet Philemon, if they try that head-on, they must end up on some Jackass equivalent show)... Raah, how to choose something appropriate when the options are pretty much infinite? Heck, if I have to chose one, I'll go Bad Seeds, they'll rock it, and grade the loosers before teaching them reality.~~Or the Wild Pack. Let Irondork and his cronies do something actually useful for once, besides I think seeing them doing something else than cop-bullying would be interesting.~~

Not really more to ad, everyone already said all there was to say about this part of the story. Ooh, the next part will be a delight to read.

7 years 7 months ago #192 by Anne

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Reading the last line in this, that the IRS has found out that Imp is lying low at Whateley made me think: They really won't be that stupid will they? Then I looked at their prior behavior and said, OH yeah they probably will be exactly that stupid. Can we say stupid paste? Attack her when she leaves the grounds? Get very close fools and you'll have Lady Astarte footprints all over you. Actually manage to get on campus? Hello, has no one heard of Jade? I figure that if they attack there, then they will manage to get crosswise of Jack (AKA Razorback) and if he's not in rager mode, he is still about the worst nightmare that could get a hold of them, except that innocent seeming girl with the ghostly sister...

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7 years 7 months ago #193 by Sir Lee

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The thing about that closing line, is that the one who mentioned Whateley was Jackalope/Jack Rabbit/Jack Ass. Who we know NOT to be a mutant; in fact, we know his origin story, and it goes nowhere near Whateley.
So, he is very unlikely to have any real idea of Whateley is. He might have been told that it's a school for mutants, but being, well, insane, he probably didn't think it would be a problem.
Now, for the other four: is there any chance that one of them is a Whateley alumnus?
- Provoker/Crash Test Dummy: no, he's a baseline.
- Crimson Kid: hmmm... maybe? We don't know the nature of his powers; he might be a mutant.
- Mistress Hex/Hexagoner 2.0: possible, but seems unlikely -- she is said to be the apprentice/inheritor of Hexagon, so she doesn't seem to have inherent power of her own
- Heaven: Possible. We know pretty much nothing about her, including what's her bug with Imp. She might be a mutant, or even a Whateley alumna.

So, it all depends on how the Crimson Kid and Heaven react to the line. If they go "What is Whateley Academy?", then they might try a frontal attack. If one of them goes "Oh, no, ANYWHERE but THERE", they might try something more sensible. But we are unlikely to see a reaction shot. Dramatically, I think we next will see them in New Hampshire.

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7 years 7 months ago #194 by Hardric

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Sir Lee wrote: Dramatically, I think we next will see them in New Hampshire.

This. The potential for comedy with these lummoxes crashing in at Whateley is just... impossible to ignore. Like these two schmucks the Syndicate sent to rob a shop in Dunwich. Only this time we have four schmucks (and one person with some brains). We need popcorn and a betting pool.

7 years 7 months ago #195 by Astrodragon

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It's just a school. What can possibly go wrong?

I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.

7 years 7 months ago #196 by DanZilla

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Astrodragon wrote: It's just a school. What can possibly go wrong?

We breeze in... take care of business... and breeze back out again. How hard could it be?"

7 years 7 months ago #197 by Yolandria

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It's just a school. What can possibly go wrong?

Famous last words.

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7 years 7 months ago #198 by Astrodragon

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Look, if we have any problems we'll just take some kids and their teacher hostage. Works every time.

I love watching their innocent little faces smiling happily as they trip gaily down the garden path, before finding the pit with the rusty spikes.

7 years 7 months ago #199 by Katssun

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I hope they learn from an idiot (Williams, student in Dunwich, student in Berlin) that she has an open classroom Saturday morning. Aside from Art History and Art 2, that is her nastiest bunch of misfits. Even they wouldn't be so stupid to attack during the regular school day, even they could even get on campus that easily.

I do not hope that this gets Aegis seriously hurt or killed. The boy has already shown he can learn! He's a step above many of the SpyKidz.

7 years 7 months ago #200 by Dpragan

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Not sure it's been mentioned, but for those who lost one of Imp's quips.(The only reason I know is I got the record one Christmas):

7 years 7 months ago #201 by Valentine

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Katssun wrote: I hope they learn from an idiot (Williams, student in Dunwich, student in Berlin) that she has an open classroom Saturday morning. Aside from Art History and Art 2, that is her nastiest bunch of misfits. Even they wouldn't be so stupid to attack during the regular school day, even they could even get on campus that easily.

I do not hope that this gets Aegis seriously hurt or killed. The boy has already shown he can learn! He's a step above many of the SpyKidz.

Williams, for all he hates Imp, I don't think is going to encourage any one to commit acts of violence on Campus. He was around for Halloween the previous year, and saw the outcome. (If a full fledged Syndicate attack couldn't succeed, how will the IRS?)

If the Syndicate gets word about their plans, they may let slip about the reward for killing Jade. Of course then hilarity would ensue as Jade did unmentionable things to people trying to hurt her. (As much fun as that would be to read, it is not going to happen.)

My list was trying to find the most embarrassing group to take out the IRS. Any of the competent, high powered students, or even moderate powered, wouldn't have a problem. So no Kimbas, Grunts, Outcasts, Olympians, Capes, Seeds, etc.

Imp is not a fighter, which is part of the problem she has dealing with these yahoos. Hmmm, Sensei Ito, or Tolman should start an evening class for Staff and Faculty... Imp would be really scary if she learned how to fight.

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