Question The Evil That Men Do

Dreamer wrote: Danny in general classroom, an ambulance pulling into Doyle, red flag day, wonder what is up myself.

Dreamer wrote: Team Pleiades, oh boy, how many training teams is Kayda on now?

Dreamer wrote: good grief, Kayda in a buckskin halter dress with thigh high boots, agree with Tansy about reworking that uniform, don't give the perv announcers more fuel when combat finals come around.

Dreamer wrote: Peeper trying to beg him to stay, exceptions to every rule, brings up Lanie but calls her Loophole. *eyes bug out* Adam freaks out, yelling at Peeper, saying her name is Elaine and his name his Adam, saying they are people.

Dreamer wrote: Mica isn't a man, drifting through the world of dreams, I don't like the sounds of this. Path crossed with others Mica tracks, says he is a teacher with lessons to impart, Coyote! Messing with her, guilty conscience that teaches best, lover will see you had the best of intentions. Uh oh, he is trying to warn her into calling off that group for revenge over what happened to Lanie's family or it will end badly. And saying they will meet again, Coyote, you are going stir up more trouble again and I hate you for it.

The Evil That Men Do (Part 1) wrote: For the first time in Elaine's memory, Tansy blushed.

null0trooper wrote:

Dreamer wrote: Peeper trying to beg him to stay, exceptions to every rule, brings up Lanie but calls her Loophole. *eyes bug out* Adam freaks out, yelling at Peeper, saying her name is Elaine and his name his Adam, saying they are people.

This is a little bit odd, as the canon stories have always shown a number of folks going by their codename even in private - and Greasy would know that. Then again, Adam is upset.

Most people are fine with going by codenames, but most people picked their codenames. Elaine's codename was assigned as a punishment, and she routinely asks people not to use it. Adam is aware of this, but Peeper hasn't bothered to notice or care since to him she's just an attractive body, not a person.

Mister D wrote: A chewy start to the tale.

Coyote is Coyote, indeed. ( When he is not being a dead goose by a lake...)

While we are only getting the narrative snapshots that the authors present to us, but i am wondering what the reactions of the Spirit World to the corruptions caused by The Bastard.

We saw some of the reactions in JG's Darwin stories.

Is the "trouble-stirring" that Coyote is triggering part of this?

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Dollars to donuts, the target the team is aiming at is Tansy's father.

Kettlekorn wrote: Most people are fine with going by codenames, but most people picked their codenames. Elaine's codename was assigned as a punishment, and she routinely asks people not to use it. Adam is aware of this, but Peeper hasn't bothered to notice or care since to him she's just an attractive body, not a person.

Kettlekorn wrote: Uh oh. At this point it's only been, what, five minutes since Tansy blushed after her Hawaiian outburst?

Anne wrote: John really needs to get with Kodiak and see if he can get an off pill for his vision, or stop being quite such a creep. 'Cause he is looking to spend the rest of his life looking at dicks while being in a prison. Frankly involuntary or not he needs to a) stop staring at the girls and b) stop commenting on the girls he is seeing. Otherwise he's just a peeping Tom and deserves to be put where he can't see the people he is failing to identify as anything except objects in his world.

Kettlekorn wrote: That said, he does have another option besides not being such a creep. He could instead get better at being a creep. This is Whateley, after all, and among their most successful alumni are people like Emperor Wilkins. They train people to survive and thrive, not necessarily to be "good" people. Every year Whateley is going to push him harder and harder to get his shit together, whatever direction he chooses to go.

E. E. Nalley wrote: Under Marty's clothing is Marty's PK Shell, which functions as skin for the most part. Not that there is any big secret about Marty as in her freshman year she was knocked unconscious and the shell dropped a few times in BMA.

Malady wrote: And that video. Wow. ... Ayla's reaction to it, is a big question... Unless he's seen it before??

Ayla and the Late Trevor James Goodkind wrote: Mother was overseeing several major research projects, including a project that might even find a cure for mutants. I knew a lot about her work, since I had spent the previous spring break working at her offices, overseeing the process of reorganizing the lab files.

Kettlekorn wrote: Honestly, the only thing I found surprising about that video was that she's pushing to quarantine even the inactive MGC carriers. That's 1/6 of the population. In other words, totally batshit insane.

Malady wrote: Wasn't there some Arctic Native American Creature??

Why did that asshole Archer call you Fake Girl?”

...

“My Freshman year, I had a lot of trouble keeping my shell up. It would drop when I fell asleep, or got knocked out. That happened in BMA and David was there. Within a day it was all over campus

Iwasforger03 wrote: I've missed a story somewhere, and I don't know where. Quick question: Why is Eruption calling marty "Fag man" again? When did Marty get outted?

null0trooper wrote: I'm a litle dubious about the "keep them out of the tunnels because there's no steam" idea, because rock is a poor conductor for heat. That's why so many facilities needing temperature control close to "room temperature" are placed underground. That's also why the steam ipes were run in tunnels - less of a temperature gradient, less insulation needed. As long as the facilities managers aren't deliberately pumping freezing cold air into the ventilation, the tunnels will at worst feel a little cool.

A follow-up attack on the ventilation systems could be an issue, but Crystal Hall is just as enclosed and vulnerable. Trampled underdogs at the exits would make the hall a better choice for a hit, once surveillance shows that heat signatures have relocated from the peripheral buildings to one central location.

Re: Hawthorne. Between Antenna and Static Girl, plus other energizers from time to time, the building may even be a net producer of electricity.

mhalpern wrote: Trampled underdogs at the exits would make the hall a better choice for a hit, once surveillance shows that heat signatures have relocated from the peripheral buildings to one central location.

null0trooper wrote: I'm a litle dubious about the "keep them out of the tunnels because there's no steam" idea, because rock is a poor conductor for heat. That's why so many facilities needing temperature control close to "room temperature" are placed underground. That's also why the steam ipes were run in tunnels - less of a temperature gradient, less insulation needed. As long as the facilities managers aren't deliberately pumping freezing cold air into the ventilation, the tunnels will at worst feel a little cool.

null0trooper wrote: I'm a litle dubious about the "keep them out of the tunnels because there's no steam" idea, because rock is a poor conductor for heat. That's why so many facilities needing temperature control close to "room temperature" are placed underground. That's also why the steam ipes were run in tunnels - less of a temperature gradient, less insulation needed. As long as the facilities managers aren't deliberately pumping freezing cold air into the ventilation, the tunnels will at worst feel a little cool.

A follow-up attack on the ventilation systems could be an issue, but Crystal Hall is just as enclosed and vulnerable. Trampled underdogs at the exits would make the hall a better choice for a hit, once surveillance shows that heat signatures have relocated from the peripheral buildings to one central location.

Re: Hawthorne. Between Antenna and Static Girl, plus other energizers from time to time, the building may even be a net producer of electricity.

Ayla and the Tests wrote: Ernie stared at a couple gauges set behind heavy plastic in the wall behind the bed. "Hmm, it looks good. I'm seeing a big improvement in our scavenging, too. I'd say you're going to be powering maybe forty percent of the cottage while you sleep from now on."
Antenna grinned, "Yeah, the Foob said I'm his own personal backup power supply."

null0trooper wrote: The reactor is still going, because its cooling loop has to be closed and isolated, so there should be energy enough to warm the intake air. In case of loss of all power to ventilation there could be an issue eventually, because the tunnels enclose a finite volume of air and a finite volume of oxygen. But loss of heating steam is a non-issue.

Mind you, the finite breathable volume == finite oxygen is also an issue for characters that manifest a volume of water around themselves. There's less oxygen dissolved in a set volume of water to support a working metabolism than in the same volume of normal air at standard temperature and pressure, and both temperature increase (from metabolism: the heat has to go somewhere!) and the square-cube law work against the manifestor. Unless the (hopefully oxygenated) water is continuously replaced with oxygen-saturated water, someone gonna drown.

Sure, it's easier to replace the air in the Crystal Hall than in the tunnels unless the construction is tightly sealed and power to that building's ventilation drops. Then, you have to open the doors to the outside air and hope it's all cold and clean air outside. After all, each student is sucking up oxygen and dumping carbon dioxide, heat, water vapor, and some methane

Ametros wrote: So this installment kicked off with quite the explosive interactions within Crystal Hall, and now the kids are going to largely stuck in there for a week or so? They'll be going stir crazy with cabin fever, and it will make for quite the sizeable helping of drama.

"This is Everheart to all security on the lower level, we have reports of Bloodwolf chasing Psydoe around down near the Underdogs tables"

Rose Bunny wrote: And surely there would need to either be security around, or some other staffers. You can't really pack them all together and tell them to behave. That would surely mean overtime, and staff not being able to go home.

"This is Everheart to all security on the lower level, we have reports of Bloodwolf chasing Psydoe around down near the Underdogs tables"

Elizabeth Carson looked over the crowd of students in Crystal Hall, and immediately got a Beatles flashback. She saw Danny Franks and Scott Emerson being chased by a large number of girls. A hand pinching the bridge of her nose, she sent a discrete message to Miss Diabolik to ensure the Crown Princess wouldn't make things too ugly in such a confined space. As for Mr. Franks...well, she'd see how things played out.

Malady wrote: What does the astral look like, with so many sleepers packed together??

null0trooper wrote: The reactor is still going, because its cooling loop has to be closed and isolated, so there should be energy enough to warm the intake air. In case of loss of all power to ventilation there could be an issue eventually, because the tunnels enclose a finite volume of air and a finite volume of oxygen. But loss of heating steam is a non-issue.

Mind you, the finite breathable volume == finite oxygen is also an issue for characters that manifest a volume of water around themselves. There's less oxygen dissolved in a set volume of water to support a working metabolism than in the same volume of normal air at standard temperature and pressure, and both temperature increase (from metabolism: the heat has to go somewhere!) and the square-cube law work against the manifestor. Unless the (hopefully oxygenated) water is continuously replaced with oxygen-saturated water, someone gonna drown.

Sure, it's easier to replace the air in the Crystal Hall than in the tunnels unless the construction is tightly sealed and power to that building's ventilation drops. Then, you have to open the doors to the outside air and hope it's all cold and clean air outside. After all, each student is sucking up oxygen and dumping carbon dioxide, heat, water vapor, and some methane

Rose Bunny wrote: Don't look at me, my elemental mage is still back in Minnesota, all knocked up at this point.

null0trooper wrote:

Malady wrote: What does the astral look like, with so many sleepers packed together??

Er... let's just say that we've found the soundtrack.

jmhyp wrote: Still in the middle of reading but I reached the Goodkind presentation and had to comment.

I can imagine the Ayla POV story where Ayla remembers being in the studio as his mother was recording her voice over. Little snippets might include noticing the crew nodding their heads as she made certain points. The framework for the story would be Ayla hearing through his contacts what the special Sophomore assembly was about and trying to get permission to be excused.

"Ma'am, I'd like to be excused from the assembly as I know the content of the presentation."
"Doesn't matter. You need to hear it for yourself. Certainly you know..."
"No, I don't need to hear it myself," Ayla struggled for a moment to maintain the businesslike facade he normally presents. "I wrote most it."

Sir Lee wrote: A minor point... given the "Ideas Worth Sharing" slogan, this appears to be a TED Talk-like speech. That is, it was probably done as a stage presentation. So, I don't think there was much of a "voiceover recording studio session".

The Boya of Summer Part Two wrote: "Not everyone is," Lanie replied. "And those who aren't will bully and take advantage of those who are." She glanced in the mirror again, and decided she needed to cement the point that some people weren't so 'civilized' deep down inside. She said, "You haven't seen The Talk."

Kayda's nose scrunched up in confusion. "The Talk?"

"It's a one-day seminar," Tansy provided. "They give it in the fall to the sophomores. You came in too late this year to see it, so you'll probably have to take it this fall. It's called Paranormals: History and the Law. It's designed to scare the sophomores and make them realize just how deep the anti-mutant hate goes. The centerpiece is a TEDx Talk Helen Goodkind gave in 1998. It's on YouTube, so if you're interested look it up over the summer. Short form? The bitch talks about rounding us all up and putting us in camps."

"This is Everheart to all security on the lower level, we have reports of Generator chasing Bloodwolf around down near the Underdogs tables"

Hardric wrote: I'm curious, does your little 'every twelve days' include only this sort of manifestation, or the relatively normal ones too?

Malady wrote: Hmm... And presuming she still assumes the MGC to be inherited... The idea that the MGC can just randomly show up, ala Ayla... That'd throw a lot of things into question... Then there's how it was due to magic... And no reason why a bio-gadg or bio-dev couldn't for real make a retrovirus that forces the MGC...

Hardric wrote: Oooh, polite fury, and on this is one of WitBitch's subtly brainwashed attack dogs. Not compalining at the idea he gets some punches in the face but... Marty, the duck was that? You're not an Exmemplar, you can't plead for Hercules or Galahad.

Valentine wrote: I'm still wondering how she planned on quarantining one billion people.

E. E. Nalley wrote: Granted, she does have a point, it's just her logic is more than a little skewed...

Katssun wrote: But at the same time...we now know that the MGC was artificially created by the Five Fold Court. So there likely is a way to cure it from a baseline mage perspective...

Malady wrote:

Katssun wrote: But at the same time...we now know that the MGC was artificially created by the Five Fold Court. So there likely is a way to cure it from a baseline mage perspective...

Umm... What about a pure science perspective? A.k.a gene therapy to remove the MGC...

Malady wrote:

Katssun wrote: But at the same time...we now know that the MGC was artificially created by the Five Fold Court. So there likely is a way to cure it from a baseline mage perspective...

Umm... What about a pure science perspective? A.k.a gene therapy to remove the MGC...

Sara's Little Purple Book wrote: It doesn’t help that, thanks to the improvements to their bodies, Exemplars often feel sexual stimulus more keenly than others. If a norm feels the earth move, the Exemplar is at ground zero of the erupting volcano.

E. E. Nalley wrote: There is, of course, speculation that quarantine was only phase 1 of her plan. The easiest and least expensive "gene therapy" could then be accomplished in phase 2: sterilization. That's the rumor, anyway.

Anne wrote: Otherwise there will be more generations of the untermenshen (not quite sure how that German word is spelled) so unspoken but understood is the intent of extermination and that it will have to be thorough...

Valentine wrote: Is this supposed to be on Oct 9, 2007? Because a lot of the stories are well passed that date, and Absinthe shows up on the 12th. It seems odd that no one mentioned the weird weather or camping in Crystal Hall.

null0trooper wrote:

Valentine wrote: Is this supposed to be on Oct 9, 2007? Because a lot of the stories are well passed that date, and Absinthe shows up on the 12th. It seems odd that no one mentioned the weird weather or camping in Crystal Hall.

Now that you mention it, there would still be snow on the ground at the school and in surrounding counties when Gwen and Collin arrive. But hey, what would a couple of new freshmen from Seattle know about New England weather?

null0trooper wrote:

Valentine wrote: Is this supposed to be on Oct 9, 2007? Because a lot of the stories are well passed that date, and Absinthe shows up on the 12th. It seems odd that no one mentioned the weird weather or camping in Crystal Hall.

Now that you mention it, there would still be snow on the ground at the school and in surrounding counties when Gwen and Collin arrive. But hey, what would a couple of new freshmen from Seattle know about New England weather?

Valentine wrote:
So is Coyote responsible, or Kittagilkukufdyhvdyb (The Shaman Killer)?

E. E. Nalley wrote:

Valentine wrote:
So is Coyote responsible, or Kittagilkukufdyhvdyb (The Shaman Killer)?

Yes.

Valentine wrote:

E. E. Nalley wrote:

Valentine wrote:
So is Coyote responsible, or Kittagilkukufdyhvdyb (The Shaman Killer)?

Yes.

That limits it to two suspects.

Rose Bunny wrote: With the Essence drain, there are probably two characters that would have had the strength to make it for ANY amount of time ... maybe Three, but Nikki would have had trouble.... One is wrapped in plastic and MIA, and Billie would be the other- though in the swirling snow, she'd likely get lost. If it weren't for the essence draining, it'd just be as simple as say, asking Molly to open a gateway.

Anne wrote: Actually, the draining of essence is exactly why I think that the shaman killer is behind this storm. Let's not forget that Kayda and Lodgeman only tapped it sharply on its nose!

mhalpern wrote: I just realized something. Crystal Hall can't possibly have enough food for long. Energizers, teenagers, a lot of teenage energizers, other mutations that require high calorie intake...

mhalpern wrote: That's good for the typical diets, what about the special diets and the freaking wierd diets?

Kettlekorn wrote:

mhalpern wrote: That's good for the typical diets, what about the special diets and the freaking wierd diets?

What about them? It doesn't really matter what people eat, nor how much. You just add all the daily diets together, multiply by 30, add in whatever maintenance supplies are needed to keep that food fresh, and presto. A one month buffer.

So for example, your students eat F pounds of normal food, T pounds of paint thinner, and P live puppies per day, and each puppy in storage eats K pounds of kibble. So, to maintain a one month buffer, you need 30*F pounds of food, 30*T pounds of paint thinner, 30*P live puppies, and 30*P*K pounds of kibble. Let's call all of that M. So, you build enough storage space to store M (e.g. some very large pantries, refrigerators, and freezers, and a small kennel). You fill it all up, then you import or produce M/2 every two weeks to keep everything topped off. Easy.

mhalpern wrote: there's a couple students who eat live food, hard to store a months supply of food that needs its own food

MM2ss wrote: It depends on the sort of live food also. If for example Sara needed one live dog per day, that's be doable, but if she needed say one horse per day, that's be much harder. On the other hand, a supply of lab rats takes up little space and uses only a little in the way of feed and water. Same with the plant eaters, you can keep lots of starter plants on hand, but a stash of full grown bushes and trees would be another matter. Lastly, there is the matter of how many students are on such special diets... If there are only a few it is not likely a huge problem and would be something that could be done fairly easily logistically speaking.

mhalpern wrote: there's a couple students who eat live food, hard to store a months supply of food that needs its own food

Anne wrote: Sara has been seen to eat everything from pot plants (Not Marijuana all you dope heads, but plants in pots) to a cage full of hamsters (also Jobe's experiments and weapons aimed at her...) to a dog that was due to be put down for disease or some other problem. So suppose that she could get by on lab rats for a month, that changes the equation quite a bit.

Valentine wrote:
The most unbelievable part of the story is:

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“All the students, faculty and staff are accounted for,” Amelia stated as she set a cup of coffee down in front of Liz. “Except for Wyatt Cody and Kayda Franks. Drink it, you need to warm up.”

Not one Devisor, not one couple, no one but Wyatt and Kayda tried to stay behind to work or get in some unsupervised sex?

E. E. Nalley wrote:

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She didn’t say that everyone was in the Crystal Hall, she said they were accounted for...

E. E. Nalley wrote:

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She didn’t say that everyone was in the Crystal Hall, she said they were accounted for...

E. E. Nalley wrote:

mhalpern wrote: I just realized something. Crystal Hall can't possibly have enough food for long. Energizers, teenagers, a lot of teenage energizers, other mutations that require high calorie intake...

The school takes deliveries by max length tractor trailers twice a week. One is JUST perishables, the other is topping off shelf stable items. By cutting out a good bit of choice (The so-called restrictive menu) the school can go for quite a ways. There is a warehouse full of shelf stable items, #10 (144ozs) cans of just about everything, in pallet lots.

As will be pointed out in the next issue the school keeps about a month's of food on hand at any given time. Trust me, they think about this stuff.

mhalpern wrote: The other problem though more than solvable considering Whateley is disposal, empty cans and garbage has to go somewhere

Valentine wrote:

mhalpern wrote: The other problem though more than solvable considering Whateley is disposal, empty cans and garbage has to go somewhere

Plant, paper and non meat food scraps are used for mulch. Metal scraps are recycled in the workshop areas, or by Jade. Liquids are dumped into the sewers where they make their way elsewhere.

mhalpern wrote:

Valentine wrote:

mhalpern wrote: The other problem though more than solvable considering Whateley is disposal, empty cans and garbage has to go somewhere

Plant, paper and non meat food scraps are used for mulch. Metal scraps are recycled in the workshop areas, or by Jade. Liquids are dumped into the sewers where they make their way elsewhere.

When you can't leave Crystal Hall some of those are a problem until you can,

Kettlekorn wrote: Also, the only people who "can't" leave the Crystal Hall are students. Going outside is extremely dangerous due to the blizzard, but the tunnels are simply cold. No wind, no wind chill, and no blinding snow. Give them some winter gear, and even baseline faculty could safely navigate the tunnels without issue. Being a large facility in the mountains of New Hampshire, they definitely will have cold weather gear or at least blankets in a supply closet somewhere nearby, even if all the individuals working there left their personal gear at home.

E. E. Nalley wrote: While the school recycles as much as is feasibly possible, there is just some trash that can't be, for that, they have a roll on/roll off compactor dumpster combination that is emptied monthly.

null0trooper wrote: The tunnels are carved meters down into rock, which is a fairly good insulator. Even if geothermal gradients weren't a real thing (but they are), and even ignoring any mantle upwelling under New England (The Black Gulf of N'Kai below the campus might have some environmental problems in a few million years), they're only going to get cold if they are opened to allow the outside air to circulate through them for a while.

... which is as good a reason to keep bored kids out of the tunnels, because it would be a matter of time before someone does something stupid. As we all know, Rick O'Seay is no one's friend.

Katssun wrote:

E. E. Nalley wrote: While the school recycles as much as is feasibly possible, there is just some trash that can't be, for that, they have a roll on/roll off compactor dumpster combination that is emptied monthly.

Monthly? That seems like a really long time. Too long. Even assuming most of the food for meals is eaten, it really adds up. As many might do over summers or before a full time job, I used to work at a grocery store. The compactor was full at least twice a week. Granted, that was driven by OSHA guidelines about disposing of food past its "Sell By" date.

Noah: "What's going on? How come you want me to do all these weird things?"
God: "I'm going to destory the world."
Noah: "Right! Am I on Candid Camera?"

Noah: "How you gonna do it?"
God: "I'm gonna make it rain for a thousand days and drown 'em right out"
Noah: "Right! Listen to this, you'll save water - Let it rain for 40 days and 40 nights And wait for the sewers back up"
God: "Right!"

null0trooper wrote: Depending on how the effluent is treated from the sewers ...

null0trooper wrote:

Katssun wrote:

E. E. Nalley wrote: While the school recycles as much as is feasibly possible, there is just some trash that can't be, for that, they have a roll on/roll off compactor dumpster combination that is emptied monthly.

Monthly? That seems like a really long time. Too long. Even assuming most of the food for meals is eaten, it really adds up. As many might do over summers or before a full time job, I used to work at a grocery store. The compactor was full at least twice a week. Granted, that was driven by OSHA guidelines about disposing of food past its "Sell By" date.

Monthly is way too long to be storing kitchen waste, no matter what any given person can get away with in their own unregulated private residence. There's an issue with this being precisely the fast-decaying material most likely to attract disease-carrying vermin. Sanitary landfills are managed to ensure that municipal waste (most definitely including food waste) is covered with either "fresh" incoming material or some neutral fill (like sand) within 24 hours, give or take. Bugs and rodents digging into the fill for tasty scraps end up dying from asphyxiation (most animals do poorly when their oxygen is displaced by methane) only to get covered up the next day.

On top of the methane generation - but what's an explosion hazard among students - there's going to be stuff leaching out of the pile of refuse (which will be warmed by decaying organics regardless of how cold it is outside) and that can be nasty (organic acids leach chromium, iron, and other metals out of fill material quite nicely). Gravity still works in the WU, so if there's any leakage at all, the toxic brew will end up taking whatever downward route that it finds: into underground storage, classrooms, labs, the sewers, etc.

Even on a reservation, public health and safety would trump public distaste for mutants.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

null0trooper wrote:

Katssun wrote:

E. E. Nalley wrote: While the school recycles as much as is feasibly possible, there is just some trash that can't be, for that, they have a roll on/roll off compactor dumpster combination that is emptied monthly.

Monthly? That seems like a really long time. Too long. Even assuming most of the food for meals is eaten, it really adds up. As many might do over summers or before a full time job, I used to work at a grocery store. The compactor was full at least twice a week. Granted, that was driven by OSHA guidelines about disposing of food past its "Sell By" date.

Monthly is way too long to be storing kitchen waste, no matter what any given person can get away with in their own unregulated private residence. There's an issue with this being precisely the fast-decaying material most likely to attract disease-carrying vermin. Sanitary landfills are managed to ensure that municipal waste (most definitely including food waste) is covered with either "fresh" incoming material or some neutral fill (like sand) within 24 hours, give or take. Bugs and rodents digging into the fill for tasty scraps end up dying from asphyxiation (most animals do poorly when their oxygen is displaced by methane) only to get covered up the next day.

On top of the methane generation - but what's an explosion hazard among students - there's going to be stuff leaching out of the pile of refuse (which will be warmed by decaying organics regardless of how cold it is outside) and that can be nasty (organic acids leach chromium, iron, and other metals out of fill material quite nicely). Gravity still works in the WU, so if there's any leakage at all, the toxic brew will end up taking whatever downward route that it finds: into underground storage, classrooms, labs, the sewers, etc.

Even on a reservation, public health and safety would trump public distaste for mutants.

Food wastes are being composted on-site somewhere well away from people by the ground keepers, the compactor is just for un-compostable, un-recyclable waste, which is kept to the bare minimum because it costs to dispose of that stuff, whereas recycling kind of breaks even, and composting cost no more then the time of staff your already paying for to truck out and dump somewhere and let nature take its course.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

null0trooper wrote: Depending on how the effluent is treated from the sewers ...

Read the early Jade stories, the school is basically making some eldritch nightmare worse by dumping its raw sewage into a handy portal to hell it found.

null0trooper wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

null0trooper wrote: Depending on how the effluent is treated from the sewers ...

Read the early Jade stories, the school is basically making some eldritch nightmare worse by dumping its raw sewage into a handy portal to hell it found.

I totally must have missed that part or maybe even that story!

Anne wrote: What will happen when a space time rift opens in the Chrystal Hall due to so many odds manglers being so close together!?

Anne wrote: Oh we're most interested to see if TWFKAH can keep it together for more than 48 hours in a confined space.

Kettlekorn wrote:

null0trooper wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

null0trooper wrote: Depending on how the effluent is treated from the sewers ...

Read the early Jade stories, the school is basically making some eldritch nightmare worse by dumping its raw sewage into a handy portal to hell it found.

I totally must have missed that part or maybe even that story!

It's in Jade 3: Being a Girl . If you want to skip to the relevant bit, CTRL-F for "Class X".

E. E. Nalley wrote: Will Mike the warehouse man ever get the nerve to ask out Rita from accounts receivable?

Will Jan in human resources ever get over her jealousy of Rita's youth and relative attractiveness in the mind numbingly dull day to day grind of loading trailers from a central ware house?

E. E. Nalley wrote: Will Mike the warehouse man ever get the nerve to ask out Rita from accounts receivable?

Will Jan in human resources ever get over her jealousy of Rita's youth and relative attractiveness in the mind numbingly dull day to day grind of loading trailers from a central ware house?

Malady wrote: So, wondering if Kayda + Kodiak sex is gonna be a thing, 'cause, then all of Kayda's trio / whatever will have bumped uglies with Kodiak. ... Also 'cause alliteration. And 'cause it's possibly what Coyote wants. And maybe Ptesanwi + Kodiak reconciliation. (No entendre intended.)

So, yeah, really wild if that were actually gonna happen, in both senses of the word.

Rose Bunny wrote: We all know Kayda is the "How do we make you even more neurotic?" character... followed closely by Danny.

Rose Bunny wrote: ... I think it's going to happen, the sex.

Hardric wrote: More seriously, the idea of sex happening between Kayda and Wyatt now would be not just utterly unlogical, but wildly OOC. First time sexual relationship with a rape victim was in the cards for Wyatt was with Songbird, and it only happened once in a dream because of Bedside Rug's manipulations... And he was livid and emphatically against the idea once he knew about it. And I'll bring back for the record how violent his reaction was when he thought Songbird abused Elaine.

When Kayda's rape was outed and one idiot thought he had the Dick of Healing and could help her that way, Wyatt made it painfully clear the idea showed Darwin-Awards levels of intelligence and how out of question such thinking should be. I cannot imagine him having sex with Kayda with these sorts of factors to take into consideration... And let's not forget the fact Kayda still had to swallow up her fear at the mere idea of being in contact with him. For the life of me I can't imagine her consenting to go that far.

Even more in the present circumstances: they know Kayda's essence isn't renewing, at to me it seems a pretty obvious sign that blizzard is not natural, and that means more trouble are coming. Even without the facts I already mentionned, having sex right now... I'm sure even Darwin Awards winners would find a course of action like this utterly stupid, and that's not like they can add much more to the debate.

Malady wrote: Coyote. A biiig factor is Coyote. We dunno what he wants, nor what he can do... Is he even confirmed as Anti-Bastard? If so, then we need to see how what he does relates to that goal, if he's not just doing things for shits and giggles.

Hardric wrote: I dare think now the 'Is she the Ptesanwi' issue is as settled as it could be, he would be on the side of very Winter Fae-grade though love help of the People (can't be trickster spirit for a people if they're all dead, right?).

Hardric wrote: What exact purpose would be served by having Kayda and Wyatt have sex exactly?

Hardric wrote: And I dare think the 'complete the 3/3' thingie is a joke...

Hardric wrote: Bluntly told, I think you severly underestmate Kayda's emotional scars. The Dick of Healing/Redemption never existed, I fail to see why Wyatt would be an exception, or how he could think of himself as one when his opinion about consent was made plain in precedent stories.