Question Ribbon

I think it's possibly from looking at her origin story and possibly from Word of God.

It's mentioned in the origin story, can't recall where though, possibly Carson at the end.

Are you sure? Because I've looked, and I cannot find a mention of it. Could it have been in the fanfic, and removed from the canon version?

I've never read the fanfic. I could be wrong and read it in the forum. I may go look again tonight.

I never said that Alyss had Galahad Syndrome. That was just something that readers assumed from her behavior.

Well that answers that question. Thanks for not leaving us to chase our tails.

But it was so fun to watch.

Morpheus wrote: But it was so fun to watch.

Exactly, that's why I thanked you. you could have hinted that it was in there, or just watched silently as we tore our hair out looking for it.

So, I guess that this assumption by a reader shouldn't really be included in the Wiki...

Well the assumption in the Wiki should say "it is believed that she might have a strong case of Galahad's Syndrome" if anything

Also looking at the manifestor levels on the wiki, her manifested ribbons are freaking powerful tools, though not fireproof at least if her MID is anything to go by, it should take 1 ton of force (over some unspecified area) to tear it, now considering that she now has the ability to manifest it in ANY shape and many sizes, I pity the fool whom is brick enough to handle the Ex 6, but underestimates the Manifestor 3 in BMA...

I believe her Ribbons were burned in the story several times.

that's what I meant by not fireproof, when I use parenthesis it tends to be at the beginning of a thought tangent, so the (though if her MID....) is talking about the strength of her cloth... I have to wonder how the capture cage exercise will go for her, I mean if the reports of "large men tieing thugs up in pink ribbons" are anything to go by... Well I think she meets the qualifiers for TK, trans, apparent insanity (casual definition), trouble magnet, and powerhouse.

That's the nice thing about wikis -- they are open to edit.

If you spot something that you know to be wrong, go ahead and fix it.
If you notice that there is some information missing, go ahead and add it.

There's no entrance fee, and I guarantee that we won't bite off your head if you don't follow our usual style. At most, one of our more experienced editors will do a cleanup pass. And we thank you beforehand for your efforts.

The HARD part is collecting the info. If you put good data in an entry -- no matter how badly it is styled, linked etc. -- it is a big step ahead. Don't know how to add references? Just put it in parenthesis or something, someone will come later and fix the syntax.

The only thing that will get you slapped is deliberate vandalism.

Sir Lee wrote: That's the nice thing about wikis -- they are open to edit.

If you spot something that you know to be wrong, go ahead and fix it.
If you notice that there is some information missing, go ahead and add it.

There's no entrance fee, and I guarantee that we won't bite off your head if you don't follow our usual style. At most, one of our more experienced editors will do a cleanup pass. And we thank you beforehand for your efforts.

The HARD part is collecting the info. If you put good data in an entry -- no matter how badly it is styled, linked etc. -- it is a big step ahead. Don't know how to add references? Just put it in parenthesis or something, someone will come later and fix the syntax.

The only thing that will get you slapped is deliberate vandalism.

I may be good at extracting information, but you really don't want me to do stuff on the Wiki, I'd go into theories and tangents like devisers make devises, so I stick to the forums where some derailment is expected. I know my nature.

Edit there are times when my thought process is as convoluted as the Whateley tunnels are to the uninitiated.

I just realized that Alyss has the perfect appearance to play the part of Rhoda Penmark . And since Alyss is arguably eligible to join the Bad Seeds, that means that the Bad Seeds could put on a performance of "The Bad Seed." I really want this to happen now.


(For those of you unfamiliar with it, The Bad Seed is a book, play, and film about a young mother who discovers that her eight year old daughter is a murderous sociopath.)

A play about a parent who discovers that their kid is a murderous sociopath would hit just a little too close to home for Ribbon.

If you haven't you should read about who the author based her off of.

OMG! Now that was on sadistic screwed up woman.

Edit: I was of course not talking about Ribbon.

Morpheus wrote: A play about a parent who discovers that their kid is a murderous sociopath would hit just a little too close to home for Ribbon.

You have a good point. Which is a shame, because I think that she could play the part really well.

Hmm. Maybe Nacht will audition for the role?

Sir Lee wrote: Hmm. Maybe Nacht will audition for the role?

She's too old. Rhoda's supposed to be eight, not fifteen. Also,I don't think that she could pull off the "apparently normal, but secretly creepy" effect the same way Ribbon could. Ribbon is subtly creepy. Nacht is overtly creepy.

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Sir Lee wrote: Hmm. Maybe Nacht will audition for the role?

She's too old. Rhoda's supposed to be eight, not fifteen. Also,I don't think that she could pull off the "apparently normal, but secretly creepy" effect the same way Ribbon could. Ribbon is subtly creepy. Nacht is overtly creepy.

Not to mention if Natch was in a play Sunny would turn up to see it.

Something tells me Natch in no way wants the general student population introduced to Sunny as her 'guardian'.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

Sir Lee wrote: Hmm. Maybe Nacht will audition for the role?

She's too old. Rhoda's supposed to be eight, not fifteen. Also,I don't think that she could pull off the "apparently normal, but secretly creepy" effect the same way Ribbon could. Ribbon is subtly creepy. Nacht is overtly creepy.

Not to mention if Natch was in a play Sunny would turn up to see it.

Something tells me Natch in no way wants the general student population introduced to Sunny as her 'guardian'.

A valid point. Also, a microscene that I want to see now.

Speaking of Big Al. When are we going to see him again? I loved the origin story. But unless i'm missing something or somethings, that seems to be the only story. Please Morph feed my addiction!

If memory serves Ribbon is planned to be a Gen1Y2 freshman, so any more needs the Gen1 to get to second year.

Yolandria wrote: Speaking of Big Al. When are we going to see him again? I loved the origin story. But unless i'm missing something or somethings, that seems to be the only story. Please Morph feed my addiction!

I think we are stuck waiting for the new school year in Gen 1.

Do we have a time table for the new school year yet? Or is that still TBA?

Elrod has some summer adventures for Kayda. I think there may be a couple more summer stories. Morpheus still has a couple of origin stories to canonize (Sphere and Absinthe). Plus anymore new students intros.

Although A Tenuous Blade does get into Fall 2007.

I have 2 more parts of Kayda's summer to write, plus there is demand for a vignette to tie up some loose ends, and then we're into the fall with my characters. EE has a summer adventure in the works - starting with graduation, but I'm not sure where he'll go with that - release the grad part as a vignette and do the summer story later, or what. But we're very, very close.
Close enough that some fall stories are being written and plans are being finalized.

Aww!

I was going to make them sweat, point out it took years to get through the school year, they shouldn't be think of after summer till, you know, next year!

Thank you. I don't think I'd be around for graduation if that happened. But then I'll be in my 90's also anyway.

Thanks for the speedy answers. And a bit of insight how involved everyone is. *Hugs*

OK, who here thinks that Ribbon will hang out with the underdogs so much that people will assume she's an underdog. At least until a couple of BMA lessons have happened.
After all:
Person: "And what do you do little girl"
Alyss: "I make ribbons"

As much as it might be interesting to see her with the underdogs. I don't think she will. I have a feeling she might make friends with Tennyo in the library. Unless Tennyo found another job that is.

Yolandria wrote: As much as it might be interesting to see her with the underdogs. I don't think she will. I have a feeling she might make friends with Tennyo in the library. Unless Tennyo found another job that is.

Tennyo likes her library job, and Mrs. Henderson likes Tennyo's work.

From what Ribbon has said so far, it doesn't look like she's admitted a familial connection to Lady Havoc. More interesting is going to be if she meets Megadeath, Olympia, or any of the other major 'Drickers.

I can see her "rushed" by Wondercute, the Goths,and oddly Jericho later in the semester. I think that Outcast Corner, the clique not the Combat Team or band, needs to expand, and I think that Ribbon would completely fit in. (So would Monkeywrench, and Orc if he becomes canon.)

Actually I think underdogs would kind of suit her.

She does have a Galahad streak in her, and a little judicious pre planning for when her grand daughter shows up.
Besides, there's gadgeteers in the underdogs iirc. A way to help her in her Diedricks work.

I can see her making contact with the Seeds too just in case someone twigs to the family connection to Lady H.

Hell, I can see her doing a lot of prep work or the expected arrival of Kaylee.

Future hero's by name dropping her connection to the freelancers. They might even pick up on her anyway.

Sphere is likely to twig to the Ribbon/Lady H connection due to Pinball.


I think we've already seen Shortcut at Whateley, and I'm willing to bet that Ayla knows who his sister is, and his connection to Alyss.



Can anyone tell that I have a hunch that we'll be seeing a Ribbon story soon? It just feels like time for one. lol

The next major Whateley story that I plan on writing, will cover Ribbon and Roulette's arrival on campus.

Morpheus wrote: The next major Whateley story that I plan on writing, will cover Ribbon and Roulette's arrival on campus.

"Ribbon and Roulette's arrival on campus."

... Hmm... Are they arriving together? ... If so, wonder what the title is... Well, there's alliteration... R & R... Rest and Relaxation... At Whateley... Yeah, no. Randomness and some other R word is more like it...

After reading this thread last night I stated musing on exactly how far Ribbons powers could be pushed. It all depends on how much she can manipulate the properties of her ribbons. We know that she has control of the colur and texture, but what about permuability and elesticity?

If she can control other properties of the fabric this would open a lot of posibilities, espesually if she can make it waterproof or air tight. Airtight fabric would let her make things that are inflated into shape. A wather proof tent, a life raft. Airtight fabric could also be used as a rather nasty, and potentially leathal attack, simply manifest an airtight hood over an opponents head, and they are out of the fight and heading for unconciousness, and potentially death if you don't get it off again.

Note seeing as she makes apparently comfortable clothing I'm assuming that her regular fabric is not water proof or airtight, as such materials are rather uncomfortable to wear for any length of time.

If I recall at the MCO power testing, her fabric could range from silk to polyester in feeling, strength, breathability and elasticity. So no airtight bags over the head, or else she would have done it already to rescue her son.

Domoviye wrote: If I recall at the MCO power testing, her fabric could range from silk to polyester in feeling, strength, breathability and elasticity. So no airtight bags over the head, or else she would have done it already to rescue her son.

The one limitation that she does have is that she can't manifest anything at a distance. Riboon has to be touching whatever object she is creating. And part of the problem with fighting the Marquies was the whole don't touch him bit. Also as established he would have been able to burn off anything she created. There is also the question of having enough focuse, her power seems to have a defualt setting which it goes back to unless she is focusing on it, which is probably why she mostly sticks with ribbons in combat.

Morpheus wrote: The next major Whateley story that I plan on writing, will cover Ribbon and Roulette's arrival on campus.

What about the minor stories?

Ribbon is from Pittsburgh, and Roulette is from the West Coast (Oregon IIRC), kind of an odd pairing.

annachie wrote: Actually I think underdogs would kind of suit her.

She does have a Galahad streak in her, and a little judicious pre planning for when her grand daughter shows up.
Besides, there's gadgeteers in the underdogs iirc. A way to help her in her Diedricks work.

I can see her making contact with the Seeds too just in case someone twigs to the family connection to Lady H.

Hell, I can see her doing a lot of prep work or the expected arrival of Kaylee.

Future hero's by name dropping her connection to the freelancers. They might even pick up on her anyway.

Sphere is likely to twig to the Ribbon/Lady H connection due to Pinball.


I think we've already seen Shortcut at Whateley, and I'm willing to bet that Ayla knows who his sister is, and his connection to Alyss.



Can anyone tell that I have a hunch that we'll be seeing a Ribbon story soon? It just feels like time for one. lol

I don't think that Shortcut has been to Whateley yet, he was only hired as Teleporter fairly recently in Canon (mid July, 2007?), but he did do a delivery to a Goodkind.

Other than the "villains" that Sphere met in the story, I don't think that Pinball talked much about her criminal contacts. She doesn't really want Sphere to follow in her footsteps. Now when Imp sees Sphere she is likely to wonder what is going on. Possibly Knockoff too.

While I think that she would fit in with the Underdogs personality wise, and her Manifestor powers fit, she is also a Ex-6/Regen-4, so it would be like the Underdogs recruiting Hank or Mule.

Jadis would be the only Seed that might connect the two. None of the others seem to look far beyond their own little sphere. (That's a bad way to put it.) Jobe would be wanting some samples if finds out how she manifested. Nacht would like her taste in clothes.

Remember that she has a purpose to going to Whateley, she wants to find a cure for Deidrick's.

Valentine wrote: I don't think that Shortcut has been to Whateley yet, he was only hired as Teleporter fairly recently in Canon (mid July, 2007?), but he did do a delivery to a Goodkind.

Shortcut specificialy mentions having made a delivery to Whately. And one of the Ayla stories specifically mentions her getting things delivered by teleporter. I'd have to go with Shortcut has definatly met Ayla.

Even if Shortcut did meet Ayla it would be a professional setting. Not a meet/greet setting. So it's a " Here's your package miss. Sign here please." Sorta thing. And i believe the whole incident/delivery lasted a whole whoppin 2 minutes maybe.

konzill wrote:

Valentine wrote: I don't think that Shortcut has been to Whateley yet, he was only hired as Teleporter fairly recently in Canon (mid July, 2007?), but he did do a delivery to a Goodkind.

Shortcut specificialy mentions having made a delivery to Whately. And one of the Ayla stories specifically mentions her getting things delivered by teleporter. I'd have to go with Shortcut has definatly met Ayla.

Do you have the quote? I just checked Steel Ribbon and couldn't find a mention of Shortcut visiting Whateley. There is a mention of delivering something to a Goodkind.

"I got caught up at work," Rich told me with an apologetic smile. "The company had me running a few rush deliveries... " Then he paused and added, "One of my deliveries was to someone with the last name of Goodkind, but I'm pretty sure she wasn't one of THE Goodkinds. Then again, Trin and Macintyre are pretty expensive, so someone involved in the delivery has a lot of money."
"I seriously doubt it was one of THE Goodkinds," Min told him with a faint smile. "None of them would ever rely on mutants for anything, not even delivering their mail."

Ayla has been receiving deliveries by teleporter for quite a while. Weaponry, and food. That doesn't make the teleporter Shortcut.

Valentine wrote:
Ayla has been receiving deliveries by teleporter for quite a while. Weaponry, and food. That doesn't make the teleporter Shortcut.

No it would be narrative causality that means one day, if not already, the teleporter will be Shortcut.

And, how many 'porters does T&M have on call, anyway? If it pays well, it means supply is low?

“One of my deliveries was to someone with the last name of Goodkind, but I'm pretty sure she wasn't one of THE Goodkinds. ”

Was enough for me to fill in the blanks. Similar pharasing shows up in Ayla's stories constantly.

Ayla has received a number of special deliveries by warper. Not all of them would have been hired through Trin & MacIntyre.

One of those (I think the first), for instance, came from Syn'd'Rome's Emporium. Generally speaking, when you order something from an online shop, you don't hire your own courier and send him to pick up the merchandise; the supplier has their own delivery service, including (in this case) an ultra-express delivery option by warper. That is, Syn'd'Rome hired the warper, not Ayla, not T&M.

At other times, Ayla hired warper couriers to deliver food from restaurants. Those might have been hired through T&M... then again, they might just be the ultra-expensive, ultra-fast service tier from the likes of FedEx and UPS. Or the mutant equivalent to Uber Food, for that matter. Those are just convenience deliveries, you don't exactly channel those through your security consultants. Well, unless you worry about your food being poisoned. I don't think Ayla's paranoia reached this level yet.

But then, business deliveries are a different matter. Those would require a secure, trustworthy courier. And that's when you hire through T&M.

konzill wrote: “One of my deliveries was to someone with the last name of Goodkind, but I'm pretty sure she wasn't one of THE Goodkinds. ”

Was enough for me to fill in the blanks. Similar pharasing shows up in Ayla's stories constantly.

That delivery was Aug 18,2007, which was why Shortcut was late to Ribbon's party. Ayla was unlikely to be at Whateley then, as it was several weeks before school started.

This does bring up the question though. How does a teleporter deliver to a private residence? Just popping out into the open could easily result in a call to the MCO.

Valentine wrote: This does bring up the question though. How does a teleporter deliver to a private residence? Just popping out into the open could easily result in a call to the MCO.

Since a teleporter generally has to know the location being visited I would imagine they would have memorized safe locations near relevant delivery areas and then either take line-of-sight hops or other methods of transport to reach the final destination.

Teleport delivery is unlikely to be cheap, so people using it will take precautions.

Private residence or company, likely to have a designated arrival spot (and possible call in advance) - the equivalent of dropping the package off at the gatehouse.
For places like Whateley(larger area), they likely have a number of designated areas, and are warned its really dangerous - for the teleporter - to arrive somewhere else.

Valentine wrote: Do you have the quote? I just checked Steel Ribbon and couldn't find a mention of Shortcut visiting Whateley. There is a mention of delivering something to a Goodkind.

"I got caught up at work," Rich told me with an apologetic smile. "The company had me running a few rush deliveries... " Then he paused and added, "One of my deliveries was to someone with the last name of Goodkind, but I'm pretty sure she wasn't one of THE Goodkinds. Then again, Trin and Macintyre are pretty expensive, so someone involved in the delivery has a lot of money."
"I seriously doubt it was one of THE Goodkinds," Min told him with a faint smile. "None of them would ever rely on mutants for anything, not even delivering their mail."

Ayla has been receiving deliveries by teleporter for quite a while. Weaponry, and food. That doesn't make the teleporter Shortcut.

However, the only Goodkind yet at Whateley as of Fall 2007, who would also be receiving confidential materials by teleporting courier from T&M is Ayla J. Goodkind. That doesn't mean they met: the package could have been signed for by Bella Horton (although she prefers couriers to be met by the recipient, and preferably not for deliveries from Sin d'Rome if avoidable.) Nikki Reilly was back at Whateley by August 12th (first new moon after the summer solstice), so it's possible that she could have been allowed to sign for it, in Ayla's place.

null0trooper wrote:

Valentine wrote: Do you have the quote? I just checked Steel Ribbon and couldn't find a mention of Shortcut visiting Whateley. There is a mention of delivering something to a Goodkind.

"I got caught up at work," Rich told me with an apologetic smile. "The company had me running a few rush deliveries... " Then he paused and added, "One of my deliveries was to someone with the last name of Goodkind, but I'm pretty sure she wasn't one of THE Goodkinds. Then again, Trin and Macintyre are pretty expensive, so someone involved in the delivery has a lot of money."
"I seriously doubt it was one of THE Goodkinds," Min told him with a faint smile. "None of them would ever rely on mutants for anything, not even delivering their mail."

Ayla has been receiving deliveries by teleporter for quite a while. Weaponry, and food. That doesn't make the teleporter Shortcut.

However, the only Goodkind yet at Whateley as of Fall 2007, who would also be receiving confidential materials by teleporting courier from T&M is Ayla J. Goodkind. That doesn't mean they met: the package could have been signed for by Bella Horton (although she prefers couriers to be met by the recipient, and preferably not for deliveries from Sin d'Rome if avoidable.) Nikki Reilly was back at Whateley by August 12th (first new moon after the summer solstice), so it's possible that she could have been allowed to sign for it, in Ayla's place.

Isn't puppet a Goodkind to?
Wiki: "Melissa Thurber-Goodkind, code name Puppet"
Melissa Thurber-Goodkind

Yes but the important part is "who would also be receiving confidential materials by teleporting courier from T&M".

Kayda 10 wrote: "If anyone gives you a hard time, you might want to consider joining the Bad Seeds." Seeing the confused looks, she smiled. "Even though Whateley is supposed to be neutral, some kids are pretty down on those who have at least one parent who's a villain. The Seeds band together to protect each other from do-gooders." She grinned. "A lot of them are pretty decent kids, and don't want to go into the family's business. Some do. We're not supposed to care."

Is that Ribbon or Loophole talking? Both are there, but Alyss is the most recent person to be mentioned as talking. (Excluding knockoff, who is being answered by the quoted)

Because if it's Ribbon it sounds like she has already contacted the Seeds.

Shortcut never said that the Goodkind delivery was to Whateley.

annachie wrote:

Kayda 10 wrote: "If anyone gives you a hard time, you might want to consider joining the Bad Seeds." Seeing the confused looks, she smiled. "Even though Whateley is supposed to be neutral, some kids are pretty down on those who have at least one parent who's a villain. The Seeds band together to protect each other from do-gooders." She grinned. "A lot of them are pretty decent kids, and don't want to go into the family's business. Some do. We're not supposed to care."

Is that Ribbon or Loophole talking? Both are there, but Alyss is the most recent person to be mentioned as talking. (Excluding knockoff, who is being answered by the quoted)

Because if it's Ribbon it sounds like she has already contacted the Seeds.

I would guess Loophole, Ribbon would have to be very good to have contacted the Seeds, who likely aren't even on campus yet, I don't think that Kayda had much interaction with the Seeds in the Spring, and she is the only other non Freshman there.

I just realized that there are THREE car nuts, sort of, on Poe's second floor. Lanie, Kayda, and Alyss. Poor Ringo.

<cough> Thorn <cough>

Though technically not a Seed himself, he could certainly have mentioned them to Alyss at some point.
I picture the two of them getting into some sort of 'ribbon' off in a common room.

Also, a thought occurred. Don't many seeds arrive, and leave, early?

As to whom would rush Ribbon, Venus Inc. even if she doesn't do any modeling, they will rush her, as soon as they learn that the exquisite wardrobe she wears is manifested, right now they have been sharing space with drama, and while magical and Mobius storage solutions can help, they are expensive, and getting outfits that perfectly fits usually means a trip to Dunwich, and visiting Mrs Rogers for attire that may only be worn once, seems a bit excessive, and when you have a fashion designer who's work you don't have to worry about storing, and can produce custom works on the fly, the fabric being tough enough for bricks not to cause it to tear easily, the only question they would have is if Sidhe react to it, and that only being a minor question as in any case it would work for most of their models.

Yeah, I guess the Venuses will TRY eventually to rush Ribbon, possibly in an auxiliary role (similar to the photographers), unless they think she's "marketable" as a tween model...

Doesn't mean she will go for it,

Valentine wrote:

annachie wrote: Is that Ribbon or Loophole talking? Both are there, but Alyss is the most recent person to be mentioned as talking. (Excluding knockoff, who is being answered by the quoted)

Because if it's Ribbon it sounds like she has already contacted the Seeds.

I would guess Loophole, Ribbon would have to be very good to have contacted the Seeds, who likely aren't even on campus yet, I don't think that Kayda had much interaction with the Seeds in the Spring, and she is the only other non Freshman there.

There's a Bad Seed rep (She-Beast) on the Alpha Council, so Loophole would have had to have known about the club and at least one member. As Wicked, she's also worked with Jadis in New York.

The Bad Seeds are not a 'hidden' club, they are very much 'in your face'. They are trying to push the message 'mess with one of us, and you pick a fight with all of us".

More than that, they are an official, chartered club, and they get a number of perks from it.

By the end, didn't Ribbon become quite fascinated with fashion, or at least seamstress construction, on her various trips to the library? She'd probably enjoy the opportunity to explore more styles simply as practice.

I'd expect Venus Inc. would ignore her...questionable taste in fashion for a while, until they learned of her abilities, then they'd stalk her like their Gen 2 compatriots stalk Taka in an attempt to get her to make them some of her high quality fabric. Melanie was quite taken with the fabric, and I imagine VI would be no exception once one of them actually touched it.

It also makes me wonder how Sidhe/Drow react to her cloth...

But really, Gearheads. Why look for a breaker bar when you can simply ask Alyss to snap off that stubborn bolt?

By the way... I remember Morpheus linking to an illustration that looked a lot like how he saw Ribbon. Do we still have that link?

Sir Lee wrote: Yeah, I guess the Venuses will TRY eventually to rush Ribbon, possibly in an auxiliary role (similar to the photographers), unless they think she's "marketable" as a tween model...

Doesn't mean she will go for it,

She doesn't like accepting money from family, it would be a good way to pay her tuition, and try to reimburse the kids...

mhalpern wrote:

Sir Lee wrote: Yeah, I guess the Venuses will TRY eventually to rush Ribbon, possibly in an auxiliary role (similar to the photographers), unless they think she's "marketable" as a tween model...

Doesn't mean she will go for it,

She doesn't like accepting money from family, it would be a good way to pay her tuition, and try to reimburse the kids...

I also see Ribbon ending up in Venus Inc as seamstress and occasionally model or maybe stunt coordinator. Imagine a model being held up off the ground by a couple of ribbons tied round her waist like some weird Doctor Octopus..

I can also see Ribbon earning some extra petty cash by decorating rooms for parties and other short events. She can show up and have a room liberally festooned with custom streamers, curtains, hammocks, table cloths, napkins, etc in fairly short order. Maybe she should join forces with Jade as pint sized setup crew.

I don't know how long the 'I helped dad work on his car' gag would hold up among the Gearheads though I can certainly see her trying to join them. As said, she doesn't need power tools or a hoist.

Echo wrote:

mhalpern wrote:

Sir Lee wrote: Yeah, I guess the Venuses will TRY eventually to rush Ribbon, possibly in an auxiliary role (similar to the photographers), unless they think she's "marketable" as a tween model...

Doesn't mean she will go for it,

She doesn't like accepting money from family, it would be a good way to pay her tuition, and try to reimburse the kids...

I also see Ribbon ending up in Venus Inc as seamstress and occasionally model or maybe stunt coordinator. Imagine a model being held up off the ground by a couple of ribbons tied round her waist like some weird Doctor Octopus..

I can also see Ribbon earning some extra petty cash by decorating rooms for parties and other short events. She can show up and have a room liberally festooned with custom streamers, curtains, hammocks, table cloths, napkins, etc in fairly short order. Maybe she should join forces with Jade as pint sized setup crew.

I don't know how long the 'I helped dad work on his car' gag would hold up among the Gearheads though I can certainly see her trying to join them. As said, she doesn't need power tools or a hoist.

The issue with her joining the Gearheads, other than her apparent and legal age, is that even if you limit her to the ones that don't screw the laws of physics, there's only so much she can keep up with, even with the exemplar mental package helping her keep up with the gadgeteers, also there are certain points where not needing power tools is a BAD thing, she can easily over-torque and tighten anything threaded, or otherwise exert too much force such that she causes damage.

mhalpern wrote:

Echo wrote:

mhalpern wrote:

Sir Lee wrote: Yeah, I guess the Venuses will TRY eventually to rush Ribbon, possibly in an auxiliary role (similar to the photographers), unless they think she's "marketable" as a tween model...

Doesn't mean she will go for it,

She doesn't like accepting money from family, it would be a good way to pay her tuition, and try to reimburse the kids...

I also see Ribbon ending up in Venus Inc as seamstress and occasionally model or maybe stunt coordinator. Imagine a model being held up off the ground by a couple of ribbons tied round her waist like some weird Doctor Octopus..

I can also see Ribbon earning some extra petty cash by decorating rooms for parties and other short events. She can show up and have a room liberally festooned with custom streamers, curtains, hammocks, table cloths, napkins, etc in fairly short order. Maybe she should join forces with Jade as pint sized setup crew.

I don't know how long the 'I helped dad work on his car' gag would hold up among the Gearheads though I can certainly see her trying to join them. As said, she doesn't need power tools or a hoist.

The issue with her joining the Gearheads, other than her apparent and legal age, is that even if you limit her to the ones that don't screw the laws of physics, there's only so much she can keep up with, even with the exemplar mental package helping her keep up with the gadgeteers, also there are certain points where not needing power tools is a BAD thing, she can easily over-torque and tighten anything threaded, or otherwise exert too much force such that she causes damage.

Umm, torque limited tools for bricks or power armor drivers? Kind of like torque limiting socket wrenches and impact wrenches that are currently available, except there would also be things like a torque limiting screwdriver/hand drill?

I agree that Ribbon probably wouldn't be able to keep up with the devisors and gadgeteers in the advanced tech program, but is ATP a requirement for being a Gearhead?

Here's another thought: Ribbon throwing a tomahawk or hammer/mallet (think Mjolnir) fitted with a carrying strap to attach it to one of her ribbons. The weapon hits, gets pulled out and goes for a second chop. It could help her keep her bracelets unnoticed longer. A sledge might work, especially for comic effect, but is a more obvious weapon when carried by a 'kid'.

Maybe she should start collecting and carrying marbles. Pretty ones of course, made of hardened glass or steel and carried in a pretty (but really tough) belt pouch or bag. Just the thing to use as a cosh, weighted stocking or as a bunch of sling bullets.

Echo wrote:

mhalpern wrote:

Echo wrote:

mhalpern wrote:

Sir Lee wrote: Yeah, I guess the Venuses will TRY eventually to rush Ribbon, possibly in an auxiliary role (similar to the photographers), unless they think she's "marketable" as a tween model...

Doesn't mean she will go for it,

She doesn't like accepting money from family, it would be a good way to pay her tuition, and try to reimburse the kids...

I also see Ribbon ending up in Venus Inc as seamstress and occasionally model or maybe stunt coordinator. Imagine a model being held up off the ground by a couple of ribbons tied round her waist like some weird Doctor Octopus..

I can also see Ribbon earning some extra petty cash by decorating rooms for parties and other short events. She can show up and have a room liberally festooned with custom streamers, curtains, hammocks, table cloths, napkins, etc in fairly short order. Maybe she should join forces with Jade as pint sized setup crew.

I don't know how long the 'I helped dad work on his car' gag would hold up among the Gearheads though I can certainly see her trying to join them. As said, she doesn't need power tools or a hoist.

The issue with her joining the Gearheads, other than her apparent and legal age, is that even if you limit her to the ones that don't screw the laws of physics, there's only so much she can keep up with, even with the exemplar mental package helping her keep up with the gadgeteers, also there are certain points where not needing power tools is a BAD thing, she can easily over-torque and tighten anything threaded, or otherwise exert too much force such that she causes damage.

Umm, torque limited tools for bricks or power armor drivers? Kind of like torque limiting socket wrenches and impact wrenches that are currently available, except there would also be things like a torque limiting screwdriver/hand drill?

I agree that Ribbon probably wouldn't be able to keep up with the devisors and gadgeteers in the advanced tech program, but is ATP a requirement for being a Gearhead?

Here's another thought: Ribbon throwing a tomahawk or hammer/mallet (think Mjolnir) fitted with a carrying strap to attach it to one of her ribbons. The weapon hits, gets pulled out and goes for a second chop. It could help her keep her bracelets unnoticed longer. A sledge might work, especially for comic effect, but is a more obvious weapon when carried by a 'kid'.

Maybe she should start collecting and carrying marbles. Pretty ones of course, made of hardened glass or steel and carried in a pretty (but really tough) belt pouch or bag. Just the thing to use as a cosh, weighted rope or as a bunch of sling bullets.

I imagine some tech courses are usually required, if I recall Kayda had trouble joining because of the attempts at railroading her to the Magic track, but the bigger requirement is a driver's license, and assuming Alyss does age, it might still be a number of decades before she looks old enough for a temporary let alone being tall enough to reach everything and see over the wheel safely without aids, aids that would make the Gearhead driver's test vehicle look dangerous with the speeds and turning rate the test requires.
As for throwing weapons, she already has those pretty ebidium bracelets (that will probably hurt an intangible Phase, possibly even a super dense Phase as well)
Other weapons, remember she can manifest super strong fabric in any shape she wants, and has limited tactile TK over the material, give her something like railroad spikes, she can form a ribbon around one, throw it into something and use it as a trip cord, if she gets good enough she might not need a spike, and can go Empire Strikes Back on someone, she might even figure out how to distribute weighted objects throughout her attire such that they don't stand out and she has ready access to them, she just has to store them someplace in her room, with her limited TK, she can potentially reach pockets, most people wouldn't be able to, and they don't have to look like pockets, or be visible from the outside, she could even store things in her hair ribbons, that's ignoring anything disguised as jewelry, like the bracelets, or the possibility that she might incorporate non-cloth objects into her clothing, assuming the items are small enough, or at least sleek enough, you can create an effect that makes it appear that she is using a magic or divisor bag, when everything is taking up regular space, when you factor in the versatility of her cloth, you get a portable arsenal that rivals Phase's, and if she learns to make shoes and other things that she can't just manifest, (and starts making lasting attire, possibly out of fire resistant materials) you can bet there will be hidden compartments and such, after all she always has been a practical person..

Point is, with her power set, she just needs the rigid components of any simple weapon in order to make it, and she can store said components, VERY easily, heck for some of the rigid components she probably could use metal wire, hidden in her clothing, for shaping it and binding it with her ribbons and her physical strength when necessary, you needn't think of typical storage conventions, in fact, you shouldn't as she can store far more, far less conspicuously with the skills she has.

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mhalpern wrote:

Echo wrote: Umm, torque limited tools for bricks or power armor drivers? Kind of like torque limiting socket wrenches and impact wrenches that are currently available, except there would also be things like a torque limiting screwdriver/hand drill?

I agree that Ribbon probably wouldn't be able to keep up with the devisors and gadgeteers in the advanced tech program, but is ATP a requirement for being a Gearhead?

Here's another thought: Ribbon throwing a tomahawk or hammer/mallet (think Mjolnir) fitted with a carrying strap to attach it to one of her ribbons. The weapon hits, gets pulled out and goes for a second chop. It could help her keep her bracelets unnoticed longer. A sledge might work, especially for comic effect, but is a more obvious weapon when carried by a 'kid'.

Maybe she should start collecting and carrying marbles. Pretty ones of course, made of hardened glass or steel and carried in a pretty (but really tough) belt pouch or bag. Just the thing to use as a cosh, weighted rope or as a bunch of sling bullets.

I imagine some tech courses are usually required, if I recall Kayda had trouble joining because of the attempts at railroading her to the Magic track, but the bigger requirement is a driver's license, and assuming Alyss does age, it might still be a number of decades before she looks old enough for a temporary let alone being tall enough to reach everything and see over the wheel safely without aids, aids that would make the Gearhead driver's test vehicle look dangerous with the speeds and turning rate the test requires.

Right, I'd overlooked the license bit. However, even if she doesn't have a car of her own, would the Gearheads allow her to join and work on other members' cars with their permission?

mhalpern wrote: As for throwing weapons, she already has those pretty ebidium bracelets (that will probably hurt an intangible Phase, possibly even a super dense Phase as well)
Other weapons, remember she can manifest super strong fabric in any shape she wants, and has limited tactile TK over the material, give her something like railroad spikes, she can form a ribbon around one, throw it into something and use it as a trip cord, if she gets good enough she might not need a spike, and can go Empire Strikes Back on someone, she might even figure out how to distribute weighted objects throughout her attire such that they don't stand out and she has ready access to them, she just has to store them someplace in her room, with her limited TK, she can potentially reach pockets, most people wouldn't be able to, and they don't have to look like pockets, or be visible from the outside, she could even store things in her hair ribbons, that's ignoring anything disguised as jewelry, like the bracelets, or the possibility that she might incorporate non-cloth objects into her clothing, assuming the items are small enough, or at least sleek enough, you can create an effect that makes it appear that she is using a magic or divisor bag, when everything is taking up regular space, when you factor in the versatility of her cloth, you get a portable arsenal that rivals Phase's, and if she learns to make shoes and other things that she can't just manifest, (and starts making lasting attire, possibly out of fire resistant materials) you can bet there will be hidden compartments and such, after all she always has been a practical person..

Point is, with her power set, she just needs the rigid components of any simple weapon in order to make it, and she can store said components, VERY easily, heck for some of the rigid components she probably could use metal wire, hidden in her clothing, for shaping it and binding it with her ribbons and her physical strength when necessary, you needn't think of typical storage conventions, in fact, you shouldn't as she can store far more, far less conspicuously with the skills she has.

My thoughts on mallets, tomahawks and marbles were based on hiding holdouts in plain sight, having a graduated approach to ranged violence (and damage) and her powers. Ribbon should be able to manifest slings and stockings* and having a bunch of marbles on her wouldn't be entirely out of place (she looks 10) and provides ready uniform ammunition for accurate shooting. She could grab stones or rip up the road for concrete/tarmac but her accuracy would suffer. The bag of marbles itself can be used as a cosh (club; sock filled with rocks) by itself and as a ball and chain by adding a ribbon. The mallet or tomahawk would be a more overt weapon to help prevent casual attacks. I see Ribbon's bracelets as heavy concealed weapons best used in extreme situations where high damage is required. In other words, probably not on random school bullies or baseline muggers or where they can be lost. Of course against baseline muggers the Trussed Pervert approach probably works best.

Hmm. Adding thrown (primitive) weapons to survival class. . . An interesting idea.

* Manifest stocking, drop marble/rock into the toe, swing a few times and let fly. Alternatively, swing and use like an improvised ball and chain.

Now here's a thing you all seem to be missing. Her motivation to conceal arsenals on her person. She's very comfortable with her physical abilities and has the mindset to get down and dirty with someone if the need arose.

Now later on if the bullies make it a point to target the creepy 10 year old...Wouldn't memories of Jade's effectiveness come back to haunt them?

We all know Ribbon won't be able to stay under the radar long. We can only hope TK takes her under their collective wings and helps guide her. After all, she shares many of the same qualities as many members. And has that good heart and sense of family values that seems to drive many of the TK kids.

Echo wrote: (Trimmed for brevity)

mhalpern wrote:

Echo wrote: Umm, torque limited tools for bricks or power armor drivers? Kind of like torque limiting socket wrenches and impact wrenches that are currently available, except there would also be things like a torque limiting screwdriver/hand drill?

I agree that Ribbon probably wouldn't be able to keep up with the devisors and gadgeteers in the advanced tech program, but is ATP a requirement for being a Gearhead?

Here's another thought: Ribbon throwing a tomahawk or hammer/mallet (think Mjolnir) fitted with a carrying strap to attach it to one of her ribbons. The weapon hits, gets pulled out and goes for a second chop. It could help her keep her bracelets unnoticed longer. A sledge might work, especially for comic effect, but is a more obvious weapon when carried by a 'kid'.

Maybe she should start collecting and carrying marbles. Pretty ones of course, made of hardened glass or steel and carried in a pretty (but really tough) belt pouch or bag. Just the thing to use as a cosh, weighted rope or as a bunch of sling bullets.

I imagine some tech courses are usually required, if I recall Kayda had trouble joining because of the attempts at railroading her to the Magic track, but the bigger requirement is a driver's license, and assuming Alyss does age, it might still be a number of decades before she looks old enough for a temporary let alone being tall enough to reach everything and see over the wheel safely without aids, aids that would make the Gearhead driver's test vehicle look dangerous with the speeds and turning rate the test requires.

Right, I'd overlooked the license bit. However, even if she doesn't have a car of her own, would the Gearheads allow her to join and work on other members' cars with their permission?

mhalpern wrote: As for throwing weapons, she already has those pretty ebidium bracelets (that will probably hurt an intangible Phase, possibly even a super dense Phase as well)
Other weapons, remember she can manifest super strong fabric in any shape she wants, and has limited tactile TK over the material, give her something like railroad spikes, she can form a ribbon around one, throw it into something and use it as a trip cord, if she gets good enough she might not need a spike, and can go Empire Strikes Back on someone, she might even figure out how to distribute weighted objects throughout her attire such that they don't stand out and she has ready access to them, she just has to store them someplace in her room, with her limited TK, she can potentially reach pockets, most people wouldn't be able to, and they don't have to look like pockets, or be visible from the outside, she could even store things in her hair ribbons, that's ignoring anything disguised as jewelry, like the bracelets, or the possibility that she might incorporate non-cloth objects into her clothing, assuming the items are small enough, or at least sleek enough, you can create an effect that makes it appear that she is using a magic or divisor bag, when everything is taking up regular space, when you factor in the versatility of her cloth, you get a portable arsenal that rivals Phase's, and if she learns to make shoes and other things that she can't just manifest, (and starts making lasting attire, possibly out of fire resistant materials) you can bet there will be hidden compartments and such, after all she always has been a practical person..

Point is, with her power set, she just needs the rigid components of any simple weapon in order to make it, and she can store said components, VERY easily, heck for some of the rigid components she probably could use metal wire, hidden in her clothing, for shaping it and binding it with her ribbons and her physical strength when necessary, you needn't think of typical storage conventions, in fact, you shouldn't as she can store far more, far less conspicuously with the skills she has.

My thoughts on mallets, tomahawks and marbles were based on hiding holdouts in plain sight, having a graduated approach to ranged violence (and damage) and her powers. Ribbon should be able to manifest slings and stockings* and having a bunch of marbles on her wouldn't be entirely out of place (she looks 10) and provides ready uniform ammunition for accurate shooting. She could grab stones or rip up the road for concrete/tarmac but her accuracy would suffer. The bag of marbles itself can be used as a cosh (club; sock filled with rocks) by itself and as a ball and chain by adding a ribbon. The mallet or tomahawk would be a more overt weapon to help prevent casual attacks. I see Ribbon's bracelets as heavy concealed weapons best used in extreme situations where high damage is required. In other words, probably not on random school bullies or baseline muggers or where they can be lost. Of course against baseline muggers the Trussed Pervert approach probably works best.

Hmm. Adding thrown (primitive) weapons to survival class. . . An interesting idea.

* Manifest stocking, drop marble/rock into the toe, swing a few times and let fly. Alternatively, swing and use like an improvised ball and chain.

Considering the school, the bracelets are very applicable to some bullies, could give an edge against Counterpoint, for example, as for preventing casual attacks, at least on Whateley grounds, she could always incorporate a "hello kitty" emblem in her attire as a very potent threat, I mean her bracelets wouldn't be the most expensive "new" (ignoring things like mythical swords, or energy blades) simple weapons, Ayla's tactical baton has them beat, she could pick up a couple loose rocks and make a sling, if accuracy is needed (there is some horizontal spin stabilization), what she needs is choker studs, made of steel, those could be deadly.

A choker full of rivets/studs also offers a degree of protection against blades and garrotes. Yes, she's an Ex-6, but that's not the same as having a PK protective shield.

But really, all of this talk about weaponizing her power brought to me the image of her carrying a half-brick inna (manifested) sock.

What shee needs is a devisor augmented version of s 3d pen:

then she can draw framweoks in pretty well any shape and sheath them in cloth. The combination could be used to make a kite, or a hang-glider.

Do we have any idea how much fabric Ribbon can manifest at once? Given enough wrappings , no other holdouts are necessary. (That's not strictly speaking true, as we saw from her fight with whats-his-name. But quantity has its advantages)

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Do we have any idea how much fabric Ribbon can manifest at once? Given enough wrappings , no other holdouts are necessary. (That's not strictly speaking true, as we saw from her fight with whats-his-name. But quantity has its advantages)

Now I'm picturing her walking away from a door with a caution not to open it... The person opens it and is buried in mounds and mounds of ribbons.

Now, as to the gearheads... being a member is a qualification for having a car on campus. Among a few other ways, this is generally going to be the easiest possible way for the widest amount of students.

It's never been said that a license, or car, was necessary to be a member. Just an interest in cars and possibly working on them. This can stretch from someone who's a huge racefan that doesn't drive, and wouldn't be trusted ANYWHERE near a wrench, but has no problems pitching in to someone designing their cars from the ground up and filing each screw and bolt by hand.

for some reason I'm picturing a new breakfast battle with just jade and ribbon vs a bunch of bullies

DanZilla wrote: It's never been said that a license, or car, was necessary to be a member. Just an interest in cars and possibly working on them. This can stretch from someone who's a huge racefan that doesn't drive, and wouldn't be trusted ANYWHERE near a wrench, but has no problems pitching in to someone designing their cars from the ground up and filing each screw and bolt by hand.

Actually it has been said, but in a story that has not happened yet, We're Not in Kansas Anymore makes it clear that by 2nd Gen you definatly do need to hold a license as part of the entry test is done on public roads.

Yolandria wrote: We all know Ribbon won't be able to stay under the radar long. We can only hope TK takes her under their collective wings and helps guide her.

Team Kimba. Cute. But no. Wondercute will almost inevitably draft her into the team first.
And woe to anyone who would cross her then.

konzill wrote:

DanZilla wrote: It's never been said that a license, or car, was necessary to be a member. Just an interest in cars and possibly working on them. This can stretch from someone who's a huge racefan that doesn't drive, and wouldn't be trusted ANYWHERE near a wrench, but has no problems pitching in to someone designing their cars from the ground up and filing each screw and bolt by hand.

Actually it has been said, but in a story that has not happened yet, We're Not in Kansas Anymore makes it clear that by 2nd Gen you definatly do need to hold a license as part of the entry test is done on public roads.

Yep, an entry test for two people whose only reason for joining was to drive vehicles.

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Do we have any idea how much fabric Ribbon can manifest at once? Given enough wrappings , no other holdouts are necessary. (That's not strictly speaking true, as we saw from her fight with whats-his-name. But quantity has its advantages)

I believe in her testing it was a single piece about the size of a King bed sheet. At least that was the biggest she manifested. Whether that was a limit or not isn't said.

The Gearheads (best evidence):

Murphy's Law wrote: An auto part fell out of the bag and landed with a thud on the floor. "Oh, that reminds me. Mr. Donner wants to know if you want to join the Gearheads? If so, Ah've got a form in here somewhere and if you have a project car you'll have to register it with the school."
"Car? You're kidding, right? I can't even afford clothes, and I'm more of a computer geek than anything. You could fill what I know about mechanics into a thimble and have room to spare."
The glasses slid down Elaine's as she looked over them at her friend subconsciously giving rise to the naughty librarian look Pendragon had teased Kodiak about obsessing over. "There's a junk yard in Berlin. We ought to be able to get a project starter pretty cheap."
"If the Gearheads are willing to put up with someone who doesn't know much more than how to use the tools and how to run an impact wrench I'll give 'er a shot."
"Besides, they way you carried on when you borrowed the clothes Ah kinda thought..." She shrugged. "Anyways, Ah rescued Baby Girl from a peanut farmer's field for fifty dollars."
"That's fifty bucks? Damn."
Elaine chuckled darkly. "Ah'll have to show you the 'before' movie sometime. Now you're looking at the better part of three years and more money than Ah care to admit to and a larger amount of sweat equity. When Ah got her, she was a frame, two axels and a break system that didn't work, but a good number of the parts were junk yard finds and the engineered stuff Ah did here. Lab budget are part of your matriculation fees, so you might as well use 'em. You're folks are getting charged, one way or the other."
"You have a point. So... is there anyone in the Gearheads who doesn't have a magic knack for machinery, or am I going to be the one stuck in the corner reading the manual and throwing tools across the garage?"
Loophole paused for a moment, then continued her digging in the bag. "Well, Skids is more of a driver than a fixer, but she's ok. And Dashboard, she's the club president, she's more of a designer and theoretical side than practical. Ringo's thing is computers but he wanted a ride and the club was the only way he could have a car on campus so he picked up tinkering."
She pulled a sheaf of papers covered in a half random mosaic of grease stains that were stabled together and offered it. "Here it is. Ah keep a catalogue of all the hulks in that junkyard and they email me when something new comes in. You got any kind of budget?"
Murphy began paging through the paperwork, eyes flickering back and forth along the print rapidly as she considered. "I have a handgun and five hundred slotted for ammo. That's my budget."
"Dollars?" Demanded Elaine. "You gotta supply an action movie? Twenty bucks will get you one hundred fifty rounds from the school store and the range replaces whatever you use."
"You're shitting me." Murphy looked at Elaine's expression for a moment. "You're not shitting me."

OK, I think somewhere else it mentions having to take some classes, and in a different story Mr. Donner leaves Ringo in charge of the class while he talks to Dr. Bellows. I can't remember if Dashboard is still going to be there, but I bet she would love to design a system for Ribbon to be able to drive a car. So there isn't any requirement besides a love of cars.

I believe dashboard graduated and lannie is now head of club but I could be mistaken

Dashboard graduated, so no. And Mr. Donner leaving Ringo in charge has more to do with Ringo being trustworthy than with him having any special mechanical aptitude. You don't have to be the star pupil to be a hall monitor. In fact, not having a mechanically-oriented gadgeteer/devisor talent would be a plus, since he would be unlikely to dive into "the zone" and become oblivious to whatever shenanigans the other students are getting into.

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Do we have any idea how much fabric Ribbon can manifest at once? Given enough wrappings , no other holdouts are necessary. (That's not strictly speaking true, as we saw from her fight with whats-his-name. But quantity has its advantages)

To get any real range, some weight is required, she can do a lot with just the fabric true, but also consider even there, it's established that her ribbons burn and I wouldn't be surprised if they cut easily too, her tk with the ribbons is weak as well and she might be able to bench press a car, but she has the reach of a 10 year old girl, so she will want to avoid hand to hand when possible, even when her opponent can take the hit. On its own the fabric won't always be enough.

if I remember right she has tried making ribbons with different materials what if she tried asbestos lol

slapshots wrote: if I remember right she has tried making ribbons with different materials what if she tried asbestos lol

Doubt she can, wouldn't really be the real thing anyways, and the most absorbent she got was felt, she couldn't manage wool, and I somehow doubt that she can do leather or vinyl, probably a limit on material complexity.

Sir Lee wrote: Dashboard graduated, so no. And Mr. Donner leaving Ringo in charge has more to do with Ringo being trustworthy than with him having any special mechanical aptitude. You don't have to be the star pupil to be a hall monitor. In fact, not having a mechanically-oriented gadgeteer/devisor talent would be a plus, since he would be unlikely to dive into "the zone" and become oblivious to whatever shenanigans the other students are getting into.

My point about Ringo is that there is an actual class requirement, as opposed to most other clubs. Ringo is a drummer Devisor specializing in computers.

Valentine wrote:

Sir Lee wrote: Dashboard graduated, so no. And Mr. Donner leaving Ringo in charge has more to do with Ringo being trustworthy than with him having any special mechanical aptitude. You don't have to be the star pupil to be a hall monitor. In fact, not having a mechanically-oriented gadgeteer/devisor talent would be a plus, since he would be unlikely to dive into "the zone" and become oblivious to whatever shenanigans the other students are getting into.

My point about Ringo is that there is an actual class requirement, as opposed to most other clubs. Ringo is a drummer Devisor specializing in computers.

It wasn't a gearhead specific class... Mr. Donner is a Teacher and Ringo, a gearhead, was in the class.

It makes sense that Mr. Donner would teach classes that would interest Gearheads... just as they would interest other students that were in the Advanced Tech track at the school. And no, I'm not saying Advanced tech is a requirement to be a gearhead either... it just happens to coincide in a good number of members.

Has her seamstress skill advanced enough that she can make daily Whateley uniforms, or will she be forced to wash clothes for the first time since she changed?

She was making her daily Gothic Lolita clothes, and also making dresses for her daughter/aunt and for her granddaughers/cousins... so I don't think the Whateley uniform would be too much of a problem in terms of design. But maybe some details could prove troublesome. Like buttons, which are usually metallic on school jackets. Or, if Whateley goes with it (can't recall right now) a school crest patch, which would require fine detail work with colors.

Perhaps she will just have to purchase the buttons and patch and add them to the clothes, and remember where she threw the jacket at night in order to collect the pieces in the morning after the jacket dissolves.

The crest on the blazer is really the only problem, unless she's learned embroidery with mirco-ribbons. My guess is she buys pin-on crests or only buys blazers.

What will she do with all the spare closet space, hmm? Her roommate will be so jealous!

Katssun wrote: The crest on the blazer is really the only problem, unless she's learned embroidery with mirco-ribbons. My guess is she buys pin-on crests or only buys blazers.

What will she do with all the spare closet space, hmm? Her roommate will be so jealous!

Logistically that could mean her roomate has needs for some extra closet space by necessity of their mutation... Such as Pounce as Danica...

Danny is going to be rooming with Hank. Part of the reasoning behind putting them together is that Hank has demonstrated a level of comfort with dealing with a gender-shifting roommate.

Although he hasn't had to deal with a gender-switching roommate since his last gender-switching roommate was brutally murdered, so we'll see how that goes.

Katssun wrote: The crest on the blazer is really the only problem, unless she's learned embroidery with mirco-ribbons. My guess is she buys pin-on crests or only buys blazers.

This brings up the question of how some of the shifters do with that. Jimmy T. seems to have excellent fine control, but he's talked about how long it takes him to do that sort of work, so it isn't a simple as it might sound. Also, he probably isn't the only one who is only pretending to be dressed at least some of the time.

Note that the dress code is fairly lax much of the time, as it has to accommodate both odd body types and odder habits or situations (like, say, a seemingly female student whose only feminine clothes are her superhero costume thanks to an obstinate father being less than accepting about his son's changes[1]). We've seen one case where a student was taken to task about the dress code, and it is fair to say that Joe probably had earned it with that ensemble. Still, most of the time, Jericho is allowed to wear what he chooses, as are Solange, Eldritch, Phase, Nephandus, Yellow Queen, Gotterdammerung, Screech, and several others I could name.

Seriously, if a hot mess like Maledicta (Kaiju's Jay-Arm-obsessed roommate, for those who never read "The Big Idea" ) is allowed goth it up as badly as she's described doing, I doubt a goth-loli who actually has some sense about it would get much notice.

[1] OK, so Sgt. Penn isn't being as unreasonable as Marty sometimes makes it sound, and a cop's salary isn't going to pay for a large wardrobe even under the best of circumstances, but he still seems to vacillate between ''I don't like my son acting like a girl'" and "I have to protect my new daughter even if she is vastly stronger than I am" and honestly appears to be as confused by his own behavior as anyone.

Schol-R-LEA wrote: We've seen one case where a student was taken to task about the dress code, and it is fair to say that Joe probably had earned it with that ensemble. Still, most of the time, Jericho is allowed to wear what he chooses, as are Eldritch, Phase, Nephandus, Yellow Queen, Gotterdammerung, Screech, Maladicta, and several others I could name.

This is one of the places where Kayda changed everything. The older stories said that uniforms where optional. But then Kayda got pulled up and told she had to wear the uniform and not her buckskin dress. That was the first story I recall where it claim uniforms where mandatory at Whateley.

Being limited to fabric would make it hard for ribbon to make a perfect school uniform. At a minimum she would need to have removable buttons for the shirt. She'd probably be able to make a new Gi for BMA, assuming she can get the texture right, I don't know that Ito would allow her to show up in a gi that looks like its made from silk.

konzill wrote:

Schol-R-LEA wrote: We've seen one case where a student was taken to task about the dress code, and it is fair to say that Joe probably had earned it with that ensemble. Still, most of the time, Jericho is allowed to wear what he chooses, as are Eldritch, Phase, Nephandus, Yellow Queen, Gotterdammerung, Screech, Maladicta, and several others I could name.

This is one of the places where Kayda changed everything. The older stories said that uniforms where optional. But then Kayda got pulled up and told she had to wear the uniform and not her buckskin dress. That was the first story I recall where it claim uniforms where mandatory at Whateley.

I was going to bring that up. It's quite possible that Kayda's little feud with Hartford (actually Lodgeman's, but Hartford had to take it undercover) brought it on. Kayda WAS a little hard-headed when it came to dealing with admin, so having someone clamp down on her - well, she might just have earned that. Or perhaps they were expecting a 'surprise' visit by one or more trustees, and wanted the students to put on a good front.

Or I just felt like screwing with Kayda.

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Danny is going to be rooming with Hank. Part of the reasoning behind putting them together is that Hank has demonstrated a level of comfort with dealing with a gender-shifting roommate.

Although he hasn't had to deal with a gender-switching roommate since his last gender-switching roommate was brutally murdered, so we'll see how that goes.

It's been hinted that Danny might have multiple roommates, Hank most of the time as Danny, but for those days they have to be Danica, possibly another roommate, Alyss has experience raising kids, sure one of them didn't turn out great, but that was due to uncontrollable circumstance, and even she came through when people were relying on her, from the Staff perspective that rooming makes sense.

I was wondering if the strength of the manifested material is influenced by the ammaunt manifested, in particular if she could manifest a single ultra-strong silk wire.... add a weigth at the end and you could end up with something like a monofilament whip from Shadowrun..... it could be a lethal solution to her limited reach, however I don't think she would use it unless someone did something that put him/her into "Must die NOW!!!" territory, in a way it would be an advantage, it's easier to keep and ace in the hole if you never need to use it.

konzill wrote: She'd probably be able to make a new Gi for BMA, assuming she can get the texture right, I don't know that Ito would allow her to show up in a gi that looks like its made from silk.

IIRC, Ito allowed Alakazam to use a satin one so I don't think a silk one would be a problem, not to mention that it makes sense to use a disposable manifested one, it's simply practical.

Her manifested material apparently is stronger than silk. How much stronger is unclear.

Sir Lee wrote: Her manifested material apparently is stronger than silk. How much stronger is unclear.

At the time of MCO powers testing 3 times the tensile strength of silk. but a single strand wont be that strong, the strongest natural silk is from a thread that is fairly easily broken.

Of coarse spider silk is as strong as steel.

elrodw wrote:

konzill wrote:

Schol-R-LEA wrote: We've seen one case where a student was taken to task about the dress code, and it is fair to say that Joe probably had earned it with that ensemble. Still, most of the time, Jericho is allowed to wear what he chooses, as are Eldritch, Phase, Nephandus, Yellow Queen, Gotterdammerung, Screech, Maladicta, and several others I could name.

This is one of the places where Kayda changed everything. The older stories said that uniforms where optional. But then Kayda got pulled up and told she had to wear the uniform and not her buckskin dress. That was the first story I recall where it claim uniforms where mandatory at Whateley.

I was going to bring that up. It's quite possible that Kayda's little feud with Hartford (actually Lodgeman's, but Hartford had to take it undercover) brought it on. Kayda WAS a little hard-headed when it came to dealing with admin, so having someone clamp down on her - well, she might just have earned that. Or perhaps they were expecting a 'surprise' visit by one or more trustees, and wanted the students to put on a good front.

Or I just felt like screwing with Kayda.

In one of the Ayla stories it was mentioned that Ayla had to petition the administration to allow him to wear male trousers with a female top.
So it seems to be at the discretion of the bureaucracy how strict this stuff is. Ayla followed the rules before he reached HardAss' list and got it with no problem. Jericho just laughs and does what he wants. Kayda tried and got hit with the hammer.

Jericho probably goes "What? I thought this was my school uniform!" every time he is called on it. Which is a bald faced lie, but the administration understands (and probably approves of) why he dresses as he does, so they don't bother to call him on it.

nah Jericho probably gets away with it cause hardass doesn't want to see those clothes in front of her when he would have to come in

Also, Caitlin for a while was restricted to her magic suppressing clothing, wasn't she?

Combining Ribbon's manifested clothes with some basic spell craft training, could give her ribbons the edge in a fight. Once learned the enhanced ribbon would only need a store of essence to activate.

I like where that thought is going. Imagine if she can remember runes etc and then embroider them into her cloths/ribbons. That would be awesome. Talk about versatility. However the downside. All the other casters on campus would get jelly and try to do something to get her on their side. Imagine if she made dresses/uniforms with sigils of power on them. Then the wearer would add some essense and poof insta magic boost. "Shudders if Fey got a hold of one of her creations."

Yolandria wrote: I like where that thought is going. Imagine if she can remember runes etc and then embroider them into her cloths/ribbons. That would be awesome. Talk about versatility. However the downside. All the other casters on campus would get jelly and try to do something to get her on their side. Imagine if she made dresses/uniforms with sigils of power on them. Then the wearer would add some essense and poof insta magic boost. "Shudders if Fey got a hold of one of her creations."

I think its already been established that this does not work very well. For maximum effectivness rune based castors have to inscribe the runes themselves. This is a rather major point in Glyph's stories.

konzill wrote:

Yolandria wrote: I like where that thought is going. Imagine if she can remember runes etc and then embroider them into her cloths/ribbons. That would be awesome. Talk about versatility. However the downside. All the other casters on campus would get jelly and try to do something to get her on their side. Imagine if she made dresses/uniforms with sigils of power on them. Then the wearer would add some essense and poof insta magic boost. "Shudders if Fey got a hold of one of her creations."

I think its already been established that this does not work very well. For maximum effectivness rune based castors have to inscribe the runes themselves. This is a rather major point in Glyph's stories.

Another point is the difficulty of gathering essence for a wiz-0, and complicating matters with Alyss being near perpetually hyper active, I don't mean sugar high hyper active, but rather she has to keep doing something her every waking hour, it might not be within practical realm of possibility for her to enter a near meditative state to gather the essence in the first place.

mhalpern wrote: Another point is the difficulty of gathering essence for a wiz-0, and complicating matters with Alyss being near perpetually hyper active, I don't mean sugar high hyper active, but rather she has to keep doing something her every waking hour, it might not be within practical realm of possibility for her to enter a near meditative state to gather the essence in the first place.

I don't think that this was explicitly stated anywhere. At least not that I recall. And wasn't she relaxing just fine during her birthday barbecue.

NJM1564 wrote:

mhalpern wrote: Another point is the difficulty of gathering essence for a wiz-0, and complicating matters with Alyss being near perpetually hyper active, I don't mean sugar high hyper active, but rather she has to keep doing something her every waking hour, it might not be within practical realm of possibility for her to enter a near meditative state to gather the essence in the first place.

I don't think that this was explicitly stated anywhere. At least not that I recall. And wasn't she relaxing just fine during her birthday barbecue.

This is the closest I could find:

Steel Ribbon wrote: I tied the green ribbon into a knot and then dropped it into the chair beside me before suddenly making a bright red ribbon appear in my hands. Whenever I was nervous, I tended to fiddle with whatever was at hand to keep me distracted. In the past, this often meant grabbing a cigar, taking a drink of beer, or just cleaning some of my tools. Since none of that was an option at the moment, I found myself playing with these ribbons instead.

So it's only when she is nervous.

NJM1564 wrote:

mhalpern wrote: Another point is the difficulty of gathering essence for a wiz-0, and complicating matters with Alyss being near perpetually hyper active, I don't mean sugar high hyper active, but rather she has to keep doing something her every waking hour, it might not be within practical realm of possibility for her to enter a near meditative state to gather the essence in the first place.

I don't think that this was explicitly stated anywhere. At least not that I recall. And wasn't she relaxing just fine during her birthday barbecue.

"being fully awke and alert at---" I forge the time, but it was just after she finished changin, and relaxing and meditating are two completely different things, meditating requires a clear mind, relaxing just means not stressing over anything. she has the Ex-6 mental package, and the energy of a 10year old, have you SEEN anyone that age "try" to meditate, heck I tried at that age in martial arts, I know for a fact I couldn't do it, the closest I came was tracking the instructor's footsteps with my ears, while usually failing to sit still,

What needs to be remembered is that she in an Exemplar-6!

She has a potential lifespan of centuries, not decades.

They'll start teaching her to practise this sooner rather than later. The earlier you start practising, the better your skills in adult life.

May I point out that Alyss might have the body of a little girl but the experience of a whole life as a man, add the Exemplar's trait mental package and I don't think she's precluded from learning..... which could be extremely entertaining if she manages to start accumolating essence to make her investment ritual relatively quickly and the TLW start targeting her as essence donor because "It's not fair that she gets essence after so little time when we have been working for so long and have so little." Alyss could be the exact opposite of the TLW, diligent, metodical, not trying to take shortcuts, actually learning the lessons that the teachers are trying to teach and therefore the basics of the Craft. (Note: the TLW could be her bane, her power set isn't going to be much help dealing with them)

Thinking about it, I shudder to think about the Goths' antics if she managed to get into the Mystic Art program.

Unless her granddaughter/sister ends up with the Wizard trait she probably won't see it as practical, save for in the extremely long term, her ultimate goal is to help people with diedrick's and magic typically doesn't mix with divisor "technology" it might set something off

If left remember correctly the first clothing she made where missing seams and stitching, witch she studied to correct, so if she incorperated a gathering spell into her clothes for say a team combat run ,the team mage could activate the spell as hidden edge for the team

Mogman wrote: If left remember correctly the first clothing she made where missing seams and stitching, witch she studied to correct, so if she incorperated a gathering spell into her clothes for say a team combat run ,the team mage could activate the spell as hidden edge for the team

All of her clothes lacks seams and stitching. She creates single pieces of cloth.

Hmmmm. I wonder if Ms. Rogers needs an apprentice.

Hmmmm. I wonder if Ms. Rogers needs an apprentice.

That's a very interesting idea. I bet she would be an amazing helper. She would easily soak up the design part of it. And once she's learned everything Ms. Rogers could teach her. I bet she could become a consultant/independant contractor. " Want that special gown for just one night." Want to be Cinderella for that special ball and don't want to worry about storage. Just call Rogers and Morgan dress emporium for a free estimate! "

what if she got to see tennyo's special fabrics

Valentine wrote:

Mogman wrote: If left remember correctly the first clothing she made where missing seams and stitching, witch she studied to correct, so if she incorperated a gathering spell into her clothes for say a team combat run ,the team mage could activate the spell as hidden edge for the team

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All of her clothes lacks seams and stitching. She creates single pieces of cloth.

Hmmmm. I wonder if Ms. Rogers needs an apprentice.

Actually we don't know that. Her first attempts did but we don't know if se's managed to either fake or include them.

mhalpern wrote: I don't think that this was explicitly stated anywhere. At least not that I recall. And wasn't she relaxing just fine during her birthday barbecue.

"being fully awke and alert at---" I forge the time, but it was just after she finished changin, and relaxing and meditating are two completely different things, meditating requires a clear mind, relaxing just means not stressing over anything. [/quote]

I think that quote means she doesn't need to sleep as much. Only 4 hours on average. Nothing about how she is when she is awake.

Sara doesn't sleep at all but she can meditate just fine.
Though she now has to make sure no one sneaks in and cuts her head off again.

Otherself wrote: Thinking about it, I shudder to think about the Goths' antics if she managed to get into the Mystic Art program.

If they mess with her they would probably find themselves hanging from trees like marionettes dressed in something that looks like the love child of Jade and Jerico's wardrobes.

NJM1564 wrote:

Otherself wrote: Thinking about it, I shudder to think about the Goths' antics if she managed to get into the Mystic Art program.

If they mess with her they would probably find themselves hanging from trees like marionettes dressed in something that looks like the love child of Jade and Jerico's wardrobes.

All tied up with a big BOW .

slapshots wrote: what if she got to see tennyo's special fabrics

Won't mater. The material she makes is always the same. Its only the texture, the feel of it that changes.

Having re-read Steel Ribbon shortly after browsing a Greek mythology book, I had a thought for a mini-scene using Ribbon.

On Poe-arrival day, Ribbon, like all the students, is introduced to the tunnel network. That evening, Ribbon decides to explore the tunnel network, to memorise it. So she does a 'Theseus in the Labyrinth', using a massive ball of manifested ribbon. Confusion ensues, as other students come across the ribbon.

wyrm wrote: Having re-read Steel Ribbon shortly after browsing a Greek mythology book, I had a thought for a mini-scene using Ribbon.

On Poe-arrival day, Ribbon, like all the students, is introduced to the tunnel network. That evening, Ribbon decides to explore the tunnel network, to memorise it. So she does a 'Theseus in the Labyrinth', using a massive ball of manifested ribbon. Confusion ensues, as other students come across the ribbon.

She could add measurements, but really she doesn't need to do any of that, with her memory and depth perception

wyrm wrote: Having re-read Steel Ribbon shortly after browsing a Greek mythology book, I had a thought for a mini-scene using Ribbon.

On Poe-arrival day, Ribbon, like all the students, is introduced to the tunnel network. That evening, Ribbon decides to explore the tunnel network, to memorise it. So she does a 'Theseus in the Labyrinth', using a massive ball of manifested ribbon. Confusion ensues, as other students come across the ribbon.

And in so doing she disvoers that the Whateley Tunnels are Non Euclidian.

konzill wrote:

wyrm wrote: Having re-read Steel Ribbon shortly after browsing a Greek mythology book, I had a thought for a mini-scene using Ribbon.

On Poe-arrival day, Ribbon, like all the students, is introduced to the tunnel network. That evening, Ribbon decides to explore the tunnel network, to memorise it. So she does a 'Theseus in the Labyrinth', using a massive ball of manifested ribbon. Confusion ensues, as other students come across the ribbon.

And in so doing she disvoers that the Whateley Tunnels are Non Euclidian.

But if that happens won't that cause the tunnels to unravel and release the seal on Cthulhu's brother... bob.

NJM1564 wrote:

konzill wrote:

wyrm wrote: Having re-read Steel Ribbon shortly after browsing a Greek mythology book, I had a thought for a mini-scene using Ribbon.

On Poe-arrival day, Ribbon, like all the students, is introduced to the tunnel network. That evening, Ribbon decides to explore the tunnel network, to memorise it. So she does a 'Theseus in the Labyrinth', using a massive ball of manifested ribbon. Confusion ensues, as other students come across the ribbon.

And in so doing she disvoers that the Whateley Tunnels are Non Euclidian.

But if that happens won't that cause the tunnels to unravel and release the seal on Cthulhu's brother... bob.

there is not Bob, only Zuul!

lighttech wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

konzill wrote:

wyrm wrote: Having re-read Steel Ribbon shortly after browsing a Greek mythology book, I had a thought for a mini-scene using Ribbon.

On Poe-arrival day, Ribbon, like all the students, is introduced to the tunnel network. That evening, Ribbon decides to explore the tunnel network, to memorise it. So she does a 'Theseus in the Labyrinth', using a massive ball of manifested ribbon. Confusion ensues, as other students come across the ribbon.

And in so doing she disvoers that the Whateley Tunnels are Non Euclidian.

But if that happens won't that cause the tunnels to unravel and release the seal on Cthulhu's brother... bob.

there is not Bob, only Zuul!

Bob ate Zuul. Loves dem marshmallows. Only Zuul now is Bob poop.

NJM1564 wrote:

lighttech wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

konzill wrote:

wyrm wrote: Having re-read Steel Ribbon shortly after browsing a Greek mythology book, I had a thought for a mini-scene using Ribbon.

On Poe-arrival day, Ribbon, like all the students, is introduced to the tunnel network. That evening, Ribbon decides to explore the tunnel network, to memorise it. So she does a 'Theseus in the Labyrinth', using a massive ball of manifested ribbon. Confusion ensues, as other students come across the ribbon.

And in so doing she disvoers that the Whateley Tunnels are Non Euclidian.

But if that happens won't that cause the tunnels to unravel and release the seal on Cthulhu's brother... bob.

there is not Bob, only Zuul!

Bob ate Zuul. Loves dem marshmallows. Only Zuul now is Bob poop.

So....
There is only Stuul!


I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.

I'm just looking forward to parent day.

annachie wrote: I'm just looking forward to parent day.

While that will be interesting, I wonder if Ribbon's granddaughters will make the visit? I doubt Lady Havoc will.

I'm more interested in seeing Ribbon interact with MegaDeath, Slapdash, and the other 'Drickers, well not Olympia.

I'm wondering if Little Havoc will end up getting grouped together with the bad seeds.
Bad seeds + Wondercute = And thus did the suffering begin.

NJM1564 wrote: I'm wondering if Little Havoc will end up getting grouped together with the bad seeds.
Bad seeds + Wondercute = And thus did the suffering begin.

DragonRider is already a member of both.

konzill wrote:

NJM1564 wrote: I'm wondering if Little Havoc will end up getting grouped together with the bad seeds.
Bad seeds + Wondercute = And thus did the suffering begin.

DragonRider is already a member of both.

Thought of that. But no one is picking fights with DragonRider.

Chances that Wondercute gets blamed by Security for the first several times that known bullies are found wrapped up in ribbons in various parts of the tunnels and areas where the cameras are known to malfunction?

NJM1564 wrote:

konzill wrote:

NJM1564 wrote: I'm wondering if Little Havoc will end up getting grouped together with the bad seeds.
Bad seeds + Wondercute = And thus did the suffering begin.

DragonRider is already a member of both.

Thought of that. But no one is picking fights with DragonRider.

No one picks fights with Ribbon either. They just get beat up and tied up with ribbons by large groups of men.

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

konzill wrote:

NJM1564 wrote: I'm wondering if Little Havoc will end up getting grouped together with the bad seeds.
Bad seeds + Wondercute = And thus did the suffering begin.

DragonRider is already a member of both.

Thought of that. But no one is picking fights with DragonRider.

No one picks fights with Ribbon either. They just get beat up and tied up with ribbons by large groups of men.

If asked, I'm sure she'll tell them that she DID supply the ribbons but didn't ask what the men wanted with that many.

I keep having this summary running through my head for a micro-scene:

Things go wrong for a group of Ultraviolents who decide to have a Ribbon-cutting ceremony.

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

konzill wrote:

NJM1564 wrote: I'm wondering if Little Havoc will end up getting grouped together with the bad seeds.
Bad seeds + Wondercute = And thus did the suffering begin.

DragonRider is already a member of both.

Thought of that. But no one is picking fights with DragonRider.

No one picks fights with Ribbon either. They just get beat up and tied up with ribbons by large groups of men.

That's the idea. Lunch time. Someone tries to pick a fight with the daughter of Lady Havoc. She mops the floor with them in one shot then bow ties them up pink sparkly bows. (She just learned to make them sparkle.) The bad seeds get into an argument as to who gets to keep her.

NJM1564 wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

konzill wrote:

NJM1564 wrote: I'm wondering if Little Havoc will end up getting grouped together with the bad seeds.
Bad seeds + Wondercute = And thus did the suffering begin.

DragonRider is already a member of both.

Thought of that. But no one is picking fights with DragonRider.

No one picks fights with Ribbon either. They just get beat up and tied up with ribbons by large groups of men.

That's the idea. Lunch time. Someone tries to pick a fight with the daughter of Lady Havoc. She mops the floor with them in one shot then bow ties them up pink sparkly bows. (She just learned to make them sparkle.) The bad seeds get into an argument as to who gets to keep her.

I doubt it will take the people who spend enough time with her long to infer that she is way older than she looks, and therefore NOT the daughter of Lady Havoc.

mhalpern wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

konzill wrote:

NJM1564 wrote: I'm wondering if Little Havoc will end up getting grouped together with the bad seeds.
Bad seeds + Wondercute = And thus did the suffering begin.

DragonRider is already a member of both.

Thought of that. But no one is picking fights with DragonRider.

No one picks fights with Ribbon either. They just get beat up and tied up with ribbons by large groups of men.

That's the idea. Lunch time. Someone tries to pick a fight with the daughter of Lady Havoc. She mops the floor with them in one shot then bow ties them up pink sparkly bows. (She just learned to make them sparkle.) The bad seeds get into an argument as to who gets to keep her.

I doubt it will take the people who spend enough time with her long to infer that she is way older than she looks, and therefore NOT the daughter of Lady Havoc.

So Lady Havocs cloning and memory download experiment gone wrong.

Domoviye wrote:

mhalpern wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

konzill wrote:

NJM1564 wrote: I'm wondering if Little Havoc will end up getting grouped together with the bad seeds.
Bad seeds + Wondercute = And thus did the suffering begin.

DragonRider is already a member of both.

Thought of that. But no one is picking fights with DragonRider.

No one picks fights with Ribbon either. They just get beat up and tied up with ribbons by large groups of men.

That's the idea. Lunch time. Someone tries to pick a fight with the daughter of Lady Havoc. She mops the floor with them in one shot then bow ties them up pink sparkly bows. (She just learned to make them sparkle.) The bad seeds get into an argument as to who gets to keep her.

I doubt it will take the people who spend enough time with her long to infer that she is way older than she looks, and therefore NOT the daughter of Lady Havoc.

So Lady Havocs cloning and memory download experiment gone wrong.

Maybe a memory dump, but that would imply Havok's personality, cloning is biodevisor territory, and with the exception of coffee and her definition of "food" NOTHING she has made is even remotely organic, she used machines for her cancer cure, a Biodev wouldn't go that route, Devisors tend to be rather specialized, if Havok wanted a backup, she would probably go the Palm route, only on a smaller scale.

DanZilla wrote:

Arcanist Lupus wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

konzill wrote:

NJM1564 wrote: I'm wondering if Little Havoc will end up getting grouped together with the bad seeds.
Bad seeds + Wondercute = And thus did the suffering begin.

DragonRider is already a member of both.

Thought of that. But no one is picking fights with DragonRider.

No one picks fights with Ribbon either. They just get beat up and tied up with ribbons by large groups of men.

If asked, I'm sure she'll tell them that she DID supply the ribbons but didn't ask what the men wanted with that many.

But, but, I'm not old enough to know about consexual adult stuff like that!

Sooooo, you mean they weren't making pretend tentacles? I saw that in a cartoon once from Japan. I bet Phase knows all about that stuff. Let's go ask her!

mhalpern wrote: Maybe a memory dump, but that would imply Havok's personality, cloning is biodevisor territory, and with the exception of coffee and her definition of "food" NOTHING she has made is even remotely organic, she used machines for her cancer cure, a Biodev wouldn't go that route, Devisors tend to be rather specialized, if Havok wanted a backup, she would probably go the Palm route, only on a smaller scale.

You don't have to be a biodevisor do do cloning; just use ordinary or gadgeteer-level cloning tech, and a devise to copy the memories.

And, in fact, she has done other biological-influencing stuff, like her devise to induce teeth growth after she lost her original teeth in a fight. Granted, it didn't work perfectly and she ended up with shark teeth, but...

Domoviye wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

lighttech wrote:

NJM1564 wrote:

konzill wrote:

wyrm wrote: Having re-read Steel Ribbon shortly after browsing a Greek mythology book, I had a thought for a mini-scene using Ribbon.

On Poe-arrival day, Ribbon, like all the students, is introduced to the tunnel network. That evening, Ribbon decides to explore the tunnel network, to memorise it. So she does a 'Theseus in the Labyrinth', using a massive ball of manifested ribbon. Confusion ensues, as other students come across the ribbon.

And in so doing she disvoers that the Whateley Tunnels are Non Euclidian.

But if that happens won't that cause the tunnels to unravel and release the seal on Cthulhu's brother... bob.

And his brother Pee-zuzu
there is not Bob, only Zuul!

Bob ate Zuul. Loves dem marshmallows. Only Zuul now is Bob poop.

So....
There is only Stuul!


I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.

Sir Lee wrote:

mhalpern wrote: Maybe a memory dump, but that would imply Havok's personality, cloning is biodevisor territory, and with the exception of coffee and her definition of "food" NOTHING she has made is even remotely organic, she used machines for her cancer cure, a Biodev wouldn't go that route, Devisors tend to be rather specialized, if Havok wanted a backup, she would probably go the Palm route, only on a smaller scale.

You don't have to be a biodevisor do do cloning; just use ordinary or gadgeteer-level cloning tech, and a devise to copy the memories.

And, in fact, she has done other biological-influencing stuff, like her devise to induce teeth growth after she lost her original teeth in a fight. Granted, it didn't work perfectly and she ended up with shark teeth, but...

My point was that she doesn't seem to like to rely on biological stuff, you DON'T use something you don't like to rely on as your lifeline, Havok was in the game long enough that there would be no disputing that she knew that, also she turned herself in, the kind of people who would use clones and such are the same kind that would NEVER EVER remotely consider giving up, every lab coat at Whateley would know that there is only ONE reason a devisor would use such a debilitating restraint device on themselves, let alone consider making it, there mere fact she built it will completely rewrite any personality profiles they have on Havok to being "Drik out effects her similarly to non-blackout rager after rage depression- little known about base personality, though merciless when in the middle of an episode."

Ribbon is very cognizant of Deidrick's and some of the things that trigger episodes. She is likely aware of other disorders and some of the other things that can happen because of them. What I am wondering is how much she knows about Ragers and their triggers. And if she knows that some jerks will actually trigger ragers for the fun of it. Then I started wondering about her reaction, and exactly what she would do to someone that she caught or absolutely knew had triggered a rager event, and I got scared.

Hey folks: What other stories besides her intro and the newly posted Mrs. Carson story has Ribbon been featured in? I'm notably rather behind on a lot of things.

Look for the R&R stories - She's one of the 'R's (the other being Roulette).

I wonder if Lady H made a few new holdouts for Alyss while she was at Whateley.

I'm waiting for Ribbon to show up at BMA with her "bling" and whap some Brick or PK Superboy upside the head with a 30 lb bracelet. Then see Soke Ito trying to find a weapon style to go with 30 lb bracelets, before just getting something for Chaka to work out and teach Ribbon.

Valentine wrote: I'm waiting for Ribbon to show up at BMA with her "bling" and whap some Brick or PK Superboy upside the head with a 30 lb bracelet. Then see Soke Ito trying to find a weapon style to go with 30 lb bracelets, before just getting something for Chaka to work out and teach Ribbon.

Rope Dart



or this:

She can join Chaka on the meteor hammer!

Actually, I'd imagine that her short stature would cut down on her range quite a bit for using rope weapons. Still probably effective, though.

Particularly effective because she has a measure of PK control over her ribbons as long as she is holding them. So she could in theory learn techniques that shouldn't be possible.

rhythmic gymnastics as a martial art.

Sir Lee wrote: Particularly effective because she has a measure of PK control over her ribbons as long as she is holding them. So she could in theory learn techniques that shouldn't be possible.

extremely limited PK yes, she was barely able to pick up a TV remote, which isn't even half a pound.

Rope dart techniques themselves might be limiting for her due to her lack of height. The control over the ribbons makes up for it, but anything she learns from Chaka might not work because she's so short and will remain so for a long time.

She should practice using them defensively so she can deflect, trap, and remove her opponent's weapons.

Katssun wrote: Rope dart techniques themselves might be limiting for her due to her lack of height. The control over the ribbons makes up for it, but anything she learns from Chaka might not work because she's so short and will remain so for a long time.

She should practice using them defensively so she can deflect, trap, and remove her opponent's weapons.

Well if she needs momentary height to extend her reach, she could always jump and manifest more material,

manifesting a lot of small, fine ribbons in a braided fashion, thicker at the base in a way that makes the first couple of feet quite stiff. Instant whip. manifest very stiff fabric into the tips and she'd get a flog-like effect. All from manifested ribbons. She could make some nasty-ass stuff.

Also nets. If she can manifest nets on the fly, her opponents will have a great deal of difficulty avoiding entanglement. If she misses, she can just discard a net and try again.



Ribbon has been experimenting with dressing up her opponents in embarrassing ways, and in leaving her opponents tied up on the ground. She should combine the two and start researching rope bondage.

Arcanist Lupus wrote: Also nets. If she can manifest nets on the fly, her opponents will have a great deal of difficulty avoiding entanglement. If she misses, she can just discard a net and try again.



Ribbon has been experimenting with dressing up her opponents in embarrassing ways, and in leaving her opponents tied up on the ground. She should combine the two and start researching rope bondage.

Or look at a straight jacket...

mhalpern wrote:
Or look at a straight jacket...

A straight jacket "design off" between Jade and Jerico?

Also, note that she can now apparently produce cloth with pictures on it. Her sailor suit had a picture of a chibi skull on it. Technical this means she could reproduce one of Jerico's outfits on demand, on anyone.

konzill wrote: Also, note that she can now apparently produce cloth with pictures on it. Her sailor suit had a picture of a chibi skull on it. Technical this means she could reproduce one of Jerico's outfits on demand, on anyone.

... and she shall be known as Starbright for another reason...

Rose Bunny wrote: rhythmic gymnastics as a martial art.

Is Kodashi Kuno available to give her lessons?

slapshots wrote: for some reason I'm picturing a new breakfast battle with just jade and ribbon vs a bunch of bullies

Oh GOD I don't even have to see the scene written to be cracking up over this. The scene would probably leave me ROFLMFAO