Question The Micro-Scenes Discussion thread

Regarding the Secret Of Poe, most of the Seeds know that there's something the older Seeds learned from their predecessors, but only have a vague idea of what it is. The actual story is that Jobe and Belphoebe were let in on the secret in Fall 2007, when they were offered an opportunity to move there. Later, Jadis caught a reference to this slipped by Belphy, and, connecting this with Phase and Envy (and possibly Shadowdancer, depending on what she knows and/or learns about Camille's past) being at Poe, worked out at least part of the details before confronting Alya and Belphy for the full story. Later, she and Jobe agreed to share this information with a few of the other Seeds in order to solve some other issue. Since then, the senior-most Bad Seeds have passed the secret along to their successors, but obviously not everyone was as trustworthy about it as they would have liked.

I figure that the fact that a few changelings are at Poe is an open secret; this actually reinforces the cover of it being the 'nut house', as it has gotten around that they are there for psychological support. For the most part, older students are aware that changelings exist, but the only one most people actually know of for certain is Mirabile.

Schol-R-LEA wrote:

• Oxhide (?): Sophomore, Twain Cottage. DEV-5 (chem), EX-4. Resembles a minotaur due to a quirk of his Exemplar power (though he isn't a Minotaur type faerie despite appearances). Shy, awkward, and obsessive to the point that many guess (correctly) that he has Asperger's Syndrome. Spent most of his childhood on the run with his parents, both of whom are Whateley alums.

Is one reason Oxhide has his codename 'cause it sounds similar to "Oxide"? 'Cause he's a Chem-Devisor?

Malady wrote: Is one reason Oxhide has his codename 'cause it sounds similar to "Oxide"? 'Cause he's a Chem-Devisor?

Got it in one. Yeah, one of the other workshop kids suggested it.

@Schol-R-LEA:

So, what brought this new scene on us? I feel there's a story here? But then again, it's yours to tell, or not, as you wish.

To be honest, I'm not sure where it came from; nothing in my personal life, that's for certain. Mostly, it was just that I stumbled across the wiki reference to Fire Forge being abused (and followed it to the explanation of her abduction in "Dangerous Days"), and it just sort of blossomed from that.

And no, I don't have any clear story ideas about what happened to Washout; I mostly just thought there needed to be one more there with Songbird's group, and for some reason I thought it should be an Underdog. Something about an older sibling seems to resonate for some reason, but that may reflect something I learned about a friend's son recently (while coming out as bisexual to his mother, he panicked and told her that his older brother had repeatedly forced him to perform oral sex when he was a teen, something he apparently had been hiding from her for years and wasn't planning on tell her; needless to say, this was a difficult thing for him to tell her, and for her to hear).

Made a small change to Warhorse's character info: I initially said he was in Twain in the micro scene, but wrote it as Melville in the bio. I took this opportunity to change both sets of information, putting him in a new cottage, Irving. There are three new cottages, the others being (Bret) Harte and (Stephen) Crane. A fourth, to be constructed in 2017, is currently unnamed, with proposals including Alger (though this is unlikely, as a certain wealthy alumnus wants that for the name of a business prep building he's funding ), London, Stowe, Bierce, Douglass, Mather, James, Bradstreet (being specifically proposed as a counter to the suggestion of Cotton Mather, on the premise that there weren't enough female writers represented and her historical position as the first American poet of note), and Wheatley (for similar reasons, as she was one of the first published African-American writers).

Oh, and Cordite and Panic had been an item last Spring, but she got tired of him cheating on her with Poe boys (and a few girls); now, after some trouble with relationships over the summer, he's thinking of patching things up with her. Just so you know.

All of this is, of course, only relevant to the fanfic in question, as I am sure that the CC (TINCC) has there own ideas on this matter.

Eh, a few more thoughts on the most recent micro scene: TBH, I'm not entirely clear on why Mary would be upset that the man who abused her was killed, though when I wrote it, it seemed very likely that she would be. Stella's explanation holds part of it, but I would expect that there is a certain amount of Stockholm Syndrome involved as well - being someone's prisoner for months on end often has the effect of generating some sympathy for them, no matter how much they are hurting you. This would be especially likely if he were 'grooming' her - that is, if instead of keeping her locked in a basement or a closet or something, if he were taking her out to parks and movies, giving her treats and gifts, and generally playing a doting and indulgent parental figure in order to keep her closer to him. It is something that many pedophiles do, and it is disturbingly effective in keeping children that age quiet. There have been a lot of cases where abducted children are either afraid to escape or have been brainwashed into not escaping, and even given her powers manifestation, the fact that she was able to do so is a testament to her strength of personality.

I guess that some of it is catharsis, as well: this serves as a degree of closure, so releasing a torrent of pent-up emotion is only natural. In the end, there's probably a lot of conflicting feelings churning inside of her.

@cprime - Hilarious! That ending! Brilliant!

Ah, a very nice scene, cprime. That works out exactly right.

That was nicely done. Especially the ending.

cprime, a nice tale and now you've give possible fuel to Elrod for adding another background or minor character to Whateley for the 2007 class. Although it would be worth it to see the kid's reaction at the end there become canon.

I can't wait for him to meet Captain Canada!

In my mind, I see Ed as something resembling an AV-2-3/WIZ-2, with the ability to manifest as his avatar (a la Kodiak/Grizzly). He also has a case of the verbosely named Hallow-Spirit-Mismatch-Deformity, hence his assignment to Twain. As was hinted at from the internal dialog, he is not happy about being the host to a spirit, though he hasn't fought it as hard as Tansy did. As far as whom the spirit is, I flipped a mental coin between Ceta and Hoka and the bird won.

Personality wise, he wants to be a warrior. However, Billy convinced him that the people needed him to be a shaman, particularly after Kigatilik cut a swath of destruction across the territories. ("Without the shamen, who will heal the warriors after their battles?") I see his class schedule for the first semester being something like Avatars 1, Flight 1, Intro to Magic, BMA, powers theory, powers lab, and probably English I and Algebra I. BMA and/or Intro to Magic might end up being swapped out for one of Kayda's special topics classes, and he would take to the Native American Fighting Styles sessions like a bird to the air.

For the record: Thunderbolt (Ajit Ranganthan) is AV-5p, EX-4, EN-2, MA-4. He has three separate manifestations: a sword formed of electricity, a prismatically colored bow with arrows, and the Garuda bird. He can also summon thunderstorms, though he has no control over them once they are summoned. He's a freshman as of Fall 2007.

So how weeks of Detention does Guan Yun get?

I'm pretty sure that the Headmistress can't actually give detention to teachers, even non-faculty advisory ones. However, she's definitely going to find some creative way for him to do penance, in a way that his honor would oblige him to comply. And if that doesn't work, she'll simply challenge him to a duel herself, to be held in the quarry where they took Mahren to when he was about to explode.

For a fight between Counterpoint and Guan Yu, I'm surprised that more of the campus isn't in ruin. Chou is going to have to talk to the Immortals about what to do about Guan Yu and how to limit his actions while at Whateley, so there isn't a repeat of this incident. Although if anyone could beat down a war god into submission, it is Mrs. Carson.

Désirée d'Angevin is the daughter of Le Coq (Claude d'Angevin, class of 1988) and La Acmé (Monique d'Angevin, nee Brassart - EX-2, PSI-2pdp, ESP-3par, class of 1990); they had barely known each other while at Whateley, but met again in late 1991 - when Le Coq tried to arrest her. After playing the Batman and Catwoman game for about a year, she reformed and joined Les Défenseurs, and two years later (1995) they married. They have three daughters; the younger two are Martine, aged 8 as of 2007, and Elise, aged 3.

As the micro-scene implies, Désirée's power is ki control, though it isn't certain if it is exactly the same as Chaka's power. Part of the concern is due to her age, given the tendency of those who manifest early to be unusually powerful. There are some indications that she is an Exemplar as well, but they were so quick to get her to Whateley where they could hopefully save her from her own power that they weren't certain.

Because of the risks involved in her power and possible power level, she will provisionally stay in Hawthorne until they are certain she's no longer in immediate danger.

Possible codename: Équilibre, since her survival will depend on her ability to balance Yin and Yang forces. On a related note, might I suggest Hyō-no-ashi-ryū (leopard's paw style) as the name of the martial arts style Chaka eventually develops (or one of them - that's probably something she develops early on, whereas she would develop a different, more advanced style later on)?

Why would you subject a poor, innocent 11 year old French girl to Chaka like that?!? Poor kid is going to learn things no kid that age should, hanging out with her and probably the rest of Team Kimba as a result. Not to mention the kind of training she will have to endure, we have already seen what she can do with training someone with Kayda. Since this girl has a similar if not exact same power as Chaka, she will expect even more of her.

So, hero worship or Adalie like levels of "hate at first sight"?

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: So, hero worship or Adalie like levels of "hate at first sight"?

Not quite either, I think. Her hero worship is mostly focused on her parents, at least for now, while she's a bit too apprehensive about her situation to get a real hate on towards Toni. I'm expecting something more along the lines of a mix of curiosity, amazement, and exasperation. She's not overly enthusiastic about martial arts - she's gotten some training from her father, but it wasn't something she thought a lot about before - but she's surprisingly well-grounded for a pre-teen, especially one who has grown up around superheroes, if a bit bookish and somewhat shy. She's sensible enough to realize that she has to learn about her powers, but not sure how she feels about them just yet.

@Schol-R-Lea - Oh! New Scene! Ayla's speaking! Nice! You gonna keep continuing this for a 'Verse like Domoviye's?

Typo:

"sam,e"

Schol-R-LEA wrote: 29 August 2007
Outside Poe Cottage

So, why is the new Poesies induction being done in the Wednesday before Labor Day, instead of the Sunday of the Labor Day weekend as in the previous year? Do they need the extra four days for something?

Who was the one talking to the new changlings of Poe? Was it Ayla like Malady guessed? Because it sounds more like something which Hank would have said, especially with Heyoka being a friend. Except for the intersexed part, which points back to Ayla, everything said fits Hank more.

Dreamer wrote: Who was the one talking to the new changlings of Poe? Was it Ayla like Malady guessed? Because it sounds more like something which Hank would have said, especially with Heyoka being a friend. Except for the intersexed part, which points back to Ayla, everything said fits Hank more.

I thought the same... It sounded like more of a Hank perspective except for that one bit. But I think Hank would possibly have referred to him more as Jamie and referenced that he was his roommate as well.

Phoenix, nice short with how the team would react to Ayla not helping Nikki and trying to figure out his reasons why. Wonder what they will do if someone tells them the real reason or they find out on their own.

Cryptic, anyone within hearing distance will know that the MCO guy brought it upon himself. The MMID says he is powered but not a mutant but the guy treats him as a badly as he would a mutant, knows he has scars and tries to force him to reveal them in front of everyone, and the fact he is a rager. If the MCO guy survives this encounter he would be up on some serious charges which his superiors won't be able to get him out of. What kind of ass treats a war vet that way.

Dreamer wrote: Phoenix, nice short with how the team would react to Ayla not helping Nikki and trying to figure out his reasons why. Wonder what they will do if someone tells them the real reason or they find out on their own.

Cryptic, anyone within hearing distance will know that the MCO guy brought it upon himself. The MMID says he is powered but not a mutant but the guy treats him as a badly as he would a mutant, knows he has scars and tries to force him to reveal them in front of everyone, and the fact he is a rager. If the MCO guy survives this encounter he would be up on some serious charges which his superiors won't be able to get him out of. What kind of ass treats a war vet that way.

*nods*

@Cryptic:

Those scars should have been looked at by a healer, if they were that bad and debilitating... Unless Vet treatment doesn't pay for that or something... Like if the soldier has bad, bad experiences with Healers, ESPers, Doctors and others, such that he can't be sedated or calmed or anything in order for the healing to be done?

#NotAVetOrAnything #CanadianNotAmerican

Malady knowing how the Vets are taken care of in the US, any money that should have gone to healers and stuff probably went to bureaucrats bonuses for keeping waiting lists short by lying and refusing to treat soldiers in need.

Good stories by everyone.

While I like bashing on the VA for its less than stellar treatment of the people it is supposed to serve (like my father, for instance - while I think some of his approaches to getting his disability allowance increased were batty, given the raw deal they handed him in the first place I can't say he hadn't earned some leeway on it, even if he hadn't served combat duty) as much as the next person, my own impression was that the scars could very well be a result of the event that empowered him, and for some reason weren't actually possible to heal (or, perhaps, were caused by the use of those powers, and he would simply be re-injured the next time he used them).

Tossing out a prompt:

Story of the Lizard lady in the Midtown Meltdown of Kodiak in Winter . ... Or have we seen her, or the kid, elsewhere in Canon? I don't think so?

Jarjaross wrote: "She did, and a multitude of other strategies, we use her as a conditional strat op," Lancer said defending his friend, then continued to defend her while deriding Mule, "which is why you should have listened to her when she started making weird requests. Also don't insult Generator, she's vindictive."

Oh hey! I think you read my commentary! ... Or did anyone else pick on Mule for not paying attention to Jade?



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Note to Self: Think of song lyrics for Radioactive Condor Girl, like Dangerous Situation☆Zen Girl and other songs from Human Zoo of Hell .

I noticed it myself, though I also noted other people (probably you) mention it in the odds and ends discussion forum.

Edit: I can honestly claim that one of those typos was autocorrect.

I have to say, I had a problem with the second scene. You didn't get Hanks voice right at all!

[/kidding]

If it sounded like Hank then I got it wrong. When explaining the problem to Phoenix Spiritus I said it felt more like Jinn pretending to be Hank, which lead to the second microsene.

@Schol-R-Lea

Hmm... Interesting! ... Given that you fixed the year from 2031 to 2032... The year must be important... ... Now to track down that Character Sheet on 26-year-old Loophole and see where the info on her kids gets me...

Also, info on Karedonian Family Tree as well...

I hadn't actually seen that character sheet, so I wasn't even thinking of that... in any case, Jillian would have been born around that time, come to think about it.

Oh, and I added one more little paragraph at the end, tying it all to another storyline of mine.

As for the thing with Rosethorn, that's from a WAG post I wrote in the old forum some time back (in the original 'Diamonds...' response thread) kinda-sorta as a joke.

I was half-expecting a line in the thinking about Mom's affairs to the tune of "and it had been really awkward for Jill when she'd met mom's one-time Native American lover, and their 'greeting' showed that there probably still were feelings beyond just friendship; that little display had kind of creeped her out."

Nice little scene, Schol-R-LEA. And I love Bek's little addition, having it all be a nightmare of Romeo's. Jobe never finding a 'cure' and turning back to her old male self, ending up marrying him and having kids. *shudders* What kind of morals and values would their mom alone instill in them.

Dreamer wrote: Nice little scene, Schol-R-LEA. And I love Bek's little addition, having it all be a nightmare of Romeo's. Jobe never finding a 'cure' and turning back to her old male self, ending up marrying him and having kids. *shudders* What kind of morals and values would their mom alone instill in them.

It gets far worse, Dreamer.

Before she faded into the Vast Unknown, Jobe's creator, Babs Yerunkle, spelled out her/her/Jobe's plan for the Drow was that they would be female dominant (this wrinkle came up AFTER Jobe got drow'd) group marriages, with multiple wives sharing a single husband. The male drow would essentially be a sex slave to his 'wives', servicing their rapacious considerable sexual appetites on demand, with no recourse or escape. And as he would also be Drowed, his lifespan would also run into the centuries. So Romeo would have to put up with the Royal Clutch (or whatever group designation drow get) for, to a teenager, FOREVER.

And as a telepath, he'd know exactly what his wives were thinking.

So, this scenario really IS nightmare fuel for Romeo.

Yikes! Did not know that about the plans for the Drow by Babs, that would be nightmare fuel for everyone who knows Jobe.

And Phoenix, just yikes. Becomes a guy and hides how much it is hurting, only sharing it with his roommate and best friend, only to have that friend murdered. Add in those micro-scenes, living in fear of losing any more people he cares for, along with being a rager with specific triggers. It is a good little micro-scene but I hope Hank being a rager like that doesn't become canon, he already has a lot of to deal with right now without stacking that on.

Having a Combat Final that mimics the same scenario where he lost control last time, with Accelerator being the opponent and Ants as the "Grunts" being taken out in front of him was the worse thing I could think off. Breaking and going postal again under those circumstances seemed likely.

The real question is would the teachers do that to him? The only reason I could think of them doing it would be to see if he now was a rager or not.

I suppose it's up to "those who do not exist" to decide if it's a line to far to happen, I just try to ferment ideas

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Having a Combat Final that mimics the same scenario where he lost control last time, with Accelerator being the opponent and Ants as the "Grunts" being taken out in front of him was the worse thing I could think off. Breaking and going postal again under those circumstances seemed likely.

The real question is would the teachers do that to him? The only reason I could think of them doing it would be to see if he now was a rager or not.

I suppose it's up to "those who do not exist" to decide if it's a line to far to happen, I just try to ferment ideas

Recall that when Lanie got Grizzly bound to her, Mrs. Carson had a deliberate test to see if she was UV or rager. I seriously doubt that such a test would be done in a combat final, but would be closely monitored another way.

Still, the scene shows how broken Hank is by the loss of his best friend, and with the other scenes, shows him to be terrified of losing any other friends and also not being able to help them, either.

Yeah, the original speculation I'd posted - which was based on the mystery of where Rosethorn's mother was having him go for Spring Break - was that Giz was the birth father of both Fina and Romeo, and that he actually wanted Fino to marry Jobe until he, too, transformed into a girl, after which he decided Romeo would do after all.

The idea at the time was that Strega was the real motivating force behind the conquest of Karedonia, but that she bailed after discovering she was pregnant, having a good idea of what kind of father Joe would make and wanting nothing to do with it. Frustrated, Joe decided to go with what looked like the next best thing - a Strega knock-off with (as Jadis put it) wardrobe issues and a love of adventure. Unfortunately, Lilith got too possessive, and deliberately got pregnant to try and use it as a hold over Giz; the ploy backfired, and Joe gave up on supervillianesses in favor of a nicely mind-controllable cheerleader named Lana.

Timeline-wise, the theory kinda works: in 2006, Fino was a junior, Rosethorn a sophomore and Jobe a freshman. The part that makes it hard to swallow is having nerdy, no-chin Gizmatic seduce and impregnate Strega and Lilith in a short time. Well, maybe he did use mind-control... but really, can you imagine Strega leaving him alive after she broke free?

Alive? Yes. Fit to be seen in public or capable of ruling a country? Not a chance.

That's a good point, actually. I was figuring that Strega was stringing him along, using him as a puppet to set up Karedonia, but if that were the case, why would she actually sleep with him if all she had to is imply that she would at some time in the future? Besides, if she had gone to all that trouble to get her own country, she wouldn't run, she would have neutralized Joe somehow (not necessarily killed him, at least not personally, but she is easily savvy enough to remove him while making it look like she was honoring his memory) and simply taken over. Hell, she could probably bend things around such that her coup (or whatever she did) was more legitimate than Joe's own rule in the first place.

In any case, Strega just doesn't sound like the type to want to be in charge of a whole country like that - help someone take it over, yes, but even as the power behind the throne she would be setting herself up for more trouble than it was worth, and she's smart enough to know what a gilded cage rulership is. With the power she displayed in Paris, she could have simply bespelled all of São Monica in one go, then made everyone outside of the island forget it even existed - the fact that she hasn't done something like that already says she doesn't have that particular kind of ambition.

Yeah, my idea doesn't really fly.

Thanks for the funny scene, Kettlekorn. Nick Jr. being carefree and not worrying about getting to school, while AJ is freaking out, too funny. I can just see Mrs. Carson when they try to explain they got lost on the way and ended up in New Orleans.

Now, that's a testosterone-driven sense of priorities...

Sir Lee wrote: Now, that's a testosterone-driven sense of priorities...

... Idea! He's an EX with Testosterone 500% of normal!

But, anyways... ... Okay, so Chris, Lois, and Rebecca are OCs. 'kay.

Considering Ayla's previous discussion with California Child Protective Services, I can absolutely see that happening the next time he went back to California.

I have to thank Speculation in the gen 2 betting thread for the inspiration for this scene.

wrt the Astarte force -
Cute. We all knew Aquerna was fated for great things (unless Diane were to have mysteriously killed her for some bizarre reason) - so this one feels good.

wrt the Hippy scene -
I think I know a bit of where this came from (non-forum discussion re: Danny) and it's quite funny. I can just imagine Hippy sitting back, drinking a beer, smoking a cigar, and regaling the other guys with the tale, knowing that it's true, and letting all the guys believe it's a story she made up - that little smirk of "Don't believe me, then. Someday I'll show you and you'll crap your pants over it!" This is funny as hell, at least IMHO.

Minor problem with the Hippy scene... Phase has his suspicions that Hollywood was a Poesie back then...

The 'Hollywood' in this story is not meant to be the hero, it's just a nickname / call sign for a former member of their team.

Although I have a seriously difficult time wrapping my head around any conceivable universe in which the Lamplighter could end up teaching at Whateley, that was hilarious.

The actual odds of Lamplighter teaching at Whateley and not getting his ass kicked for even applying to teach by every staff member and some students is only slightly greater than the odds of Ayla turning completely into a buxom fully female hottie and loving it.

Not that the micro-scene wasn't funny.

@Domoviye - Brilliant!

... Now. where is that fanfic that had the staff on LSD? ...

Quite amusing since over the last week, I've been planning out a future encounter between Imp and Lamplighter.

I've never read that one Malady.
I just had to come up with a reason that they would hire Lamplighter, and being a drunk seemed like the only possible answer.

Morpheus wrote: Quite amusing since over the last week, I've been planning out a future encounter between Imp and Lamplighter.

That I would like to see. Thanks.

Has anyone pointed out to the Lamplighter that the Canadian students not only belong to the country that burnt down the White House, but is still technically at war with the USA?

Captain Canada as an enemy combattant...

Do you want to get them killed?!

I had a thought about Sam finding Peeper and Greasy after they "introduced" themselves to Ribbon so I made a micro-scene about it, and characterized it with the fact that Ribbon was an auto mechanic, and would keep oil spills controlled,

Domoviye wrote: I've never read that one Malady.
I just had to come up with a reason that they would hire Lamplighter, and being a drunk seemed like the only possible answer.

Sorry, well, here: drive.google.com/file/d/0B_ZzOVhZ7xFmX3N...bHM/view?usp=sharing

Also, a mirror of Rubberjohn's Fanfic Archive is in my sig.

Nice micro-scene, mhalpern. Although since Peeper has never targeted the TLW and I think he said Jade was too young for him, Ribbon would be safe. Only reason she would tie them up like that is if she caught them harassing other female students and decided they need a lesson. Would be funny to see a similar scene in canon.

Astrodragon wrote: Has anyone pointed out to the Lamplighter that the Canadian students not only belong to the country that burnt down the White House, but is still technically at war with the USA?

Captain Canada as an enemy combattant...

Uh, American, Canadian and British history is not exactly my forte, but... wouldn't there be any sort of peace treaty afterwards?

(A quick look at Wikipedia suggests that there was -- something called Treaty of Ghent)

Sir Lee wrote:

Astrodragon wrote: Has anyone pointed out to the Lamplighter that the Canadian students not only belong to the country that burnt down the White House, but is still technically at war with the USA?

Captain Canada as an enemy combattant...

Uh, American, Canadian and British history is not exactly my forte, but... wouldn't there be any sort of peace treaty afterwards?

(A quick look at Wikipedia suggests that there was -- something called Treaty of Ghent)

Not quite. It's actually a technical thing due to Canada's independance. But there is no peace treaty between Canada and the States. Its a constant source of amusement to Canadians (as in burning down the White House getting blamed on the British...)

Dreamer wrote: Nice micro-scene, mhalpern. Although since Peeper has never targeted the TLW and I think he said Jade was too young for him, Ribbon would be safe. Only reason she would tie them up like that is if she caught them harassing other female students and decided they need a lesson. Would be funny to see a similar scene in canon.

Well whose to say that the instigation was direct? Honestly I couldn't decide on how it would start only how it would end, mainly that she would keep Greasy from causing a slip hazard.

Astrodragon wrote: Not quite. It's actually a technical thing due to Canada's independance. But there is no peace treaty between Canada and the States. Its a constant source of amusement to Canadians (as in burning down the White House getting blamed on the British...)

I was not aware of this. But the earliest date I can find in Wikipedia for Canadian independence is 1867, long after the war was over. So why would Canada and the US need a peace treaty in 1815?

Also on Wikipedia, the only names I can find associated with the burning of Washington are Major General Robert Ross and Rear Admiral George Cockburn, who were both British. Were they leading Canadian forces?

Alright here goes.

The War of 1812, was fought between the US, Britain, the Indians under Tecumseh and the settlers in Upper and Lower Canada. The settlers were mostly British, Irish and Scottish, but 1 in 4 were Americans looking for cheap land (This is why the American Press said it would be a simple matter of marching). The French Canadians (the only people called Canadians at that time) fought to, but only in 1813 when the Americans tried to attack Montreal.
So saying Canadians fought the war is not strictly true, but it did go a LONG way to creating a Canadian identity, without it most historians agree the colony of Upper Canada (Ontario) would have graduallly slipped into US control.
The people who burned the Whitehouse were British soldiers, many of them from the Caribbean Island garrisons. As far as I know there were no soldiers from British North America involved, and the ships didn't even land in Halifax. The fact that these soldiers were from the Caribbeans affected the last battle in the war (which happened several weeks after the Treaty of Ghent was signed), as a cold snap left many of the soldiers freezing and coming down with illness which only compounded the huge tactical and strategic errors that occurred for the British and allowed the Americans to claim they won the war. (How defeating an invading army leads to victory when your side was the aggressor is a question most Americans tend to ignore.)
The Treaty of Ghent was a peace treaty. However it was mostly just a way for both sides who were tired of fighting to save face. All of the issues, impressment of US sailors (abolished by the British just before the declaration of war), arming of the Native Americans (ended with the death of Tecumseh and the defeat of his coalition), deciding the exact borders in the northwestern territories, and the British embargo of all trade to Europe (ended with the defeat of Napoleon), were set aside to be dealt with in subsequent meetings. It was a return to the status quo. Anything less than a treaty would have been seen as a sign of weakness by other parties, but neither side could back down without losing face, so they said, "We'll deal with it later, no one lost."
This was done because the US was on the point of bankruptcy and even though it has been exaggerated over the centuries, the New England States really didn't want to fight the British for what they saw as a simple land grab. Britain having fought France and its allies almost continually since the 1770's and just winning the exhausting war against Napoleon, simply wanted a chance to sit back enjoy some much needed peace and make money through trade. As long as it didn't lose anything, it didn't want to throw away troops and money on a side show.
If you want I can provide sources, but I'll have to dig through my history books for it all, a bunch of them haven't been opened since I left university.

Schol--R-LEA, I could see that happening if Dina was younger and a student at Whateley. That would be a fun fanfic, de-aging the cast of Dumbing of Age back to high school instead of college and put them in Whateley Academy. Just imagining what each of their powers would be is a fun thought experiment. Spot on with Dina's powers, she just has a way of blending in until she speaks up.

Yeah, as I said it was Dina's own comment on that which got me thinking of it. But you can bet that Poe would be filled to the brim with David Willis characters that year, what with Becky (who probably would have had to run for her life when she manifested anyway, so little things like sexual orientation are hardly going to matter), Carly (maybe with the power to turn into UltraCar, going full circle as it were), Ethan, Marcie, Faz (who would be ever so quick to point out that he's technically bisexual - with charts, just like in Shortpacked!), Conquest (OK, so Connie hasn't been in DoA much so far as I've seen, just waiting tables at the pizza parlor the one time, but it would make sense for her to be there too), Ruth, and maybe Billie depending on what she copped to in the application form.

And poor Amber - being Amazi-Girl won't get her much at Whateley, beyond some pokes for the corny codename. Oh, and make sure that Billie and Ruth don't meet any Dylans or they'll never be sober - I doubt either of them would go for any exotic Devisor drugs from Le Carnival, but any chance for alcohol is likely to be too much for them to pass up.

Now I'm trying to figure out which courses Jason, Penny, Daisy, and Galasso would be teaching. Or maybe Galasso would make more sense as the manager of the power plant, I'm not sure - he's always wanted power, after all I'm guessing that Reagan in this case would be a robot Galasso built, rather than the real RR resurrected, or worse, zombified (though we could probably skip that entirely, given that it was originally a throw away gag about 80s nostalgia that took on a life of its own).

Oh, and we should totes hook Daisy up with Songbird.

I'm not really up to writing it, sadly. Maybe we can convince Willis to read enough WA that he'd be willing to write it himself?

As for Joe's comment about Harvey, we all know the only thing up Bunny's alley is Nikki's... shutting up now.

Ok, not my best work, but it did seem like a void that needed filling.

@Schol-R-LEA

Is that info canon for your Championship Part II ?

Can I use Doc. Sagittarius if I need Dynamorphs? ... Is he even alive after his experiments?

Malady wrote: @Schol-R-LEA

Is that info canon for your Championship Part II ?

Can I use Doc. Sagittarius if I need Dynamorphs? ... Is he even alive after his experiments?

No. It Is Not.

Bek D Corbin wrote:

Malady wrote: @Schol-R-LEA

Is that info canon for your Championship Part II ?

Can I use Doc. Sagittarius if I need Dynamorphs? ... Is he even alive after his experiments?

No. It Is Not.

Whoops. ... I meant, for his Championship Part II AU of Whateley, if the events relayed by his Micro Scene were the... events that happened to his version of Sunburst. ... I am not even thinking that such events are what happened in the Canon Cabal Official Whateley-verse.

And yes. I remember the long discussions on the meaning of the word 'canon'. ... Although I'd be hard-pressed for their precise location...

So, what word should I use for fanfic authors' timelines? I guess something like "Schol-R-LEA-verse canon"?

I'm thinking 'Fanon', but that's also used for what the fans think are canon, or as TvTropes Laconic says: "Fan Wank that's accepted by a fandom as Canon."

I'm unclear on who was supposed to be narrating that micro-scene.

I was guessing Ayla, he would be the only one I could think of would be welcome (or at least push into without being rendered down to atoms) a conversation between Jadis and Natch over Natch's private life.

Going forward, I get the feeling Sunburst would be one of the few Superhero's willing to mentor a Superhero version of Jadis. I wonder what a superhero team consisting of Sunburst, Natch and Jadis would be like?

The ultimate good cop/bad cop routine?

Speaking of which, does letting Nacht stare at prisoners count as coercing a confession?

Depends what the local laws for admission of evidence gathered by superpowers are.

It would be hard to argue Natch isn't doing something to them when you have a video of her just staring and smiling and super-hardened criminals start peeing their pants, literally, and spilling their guts.

Defence attorneys are going to at least try to get it dismissed as evidence.

Malady wrote: @Schol-R-LEA

Is that info canon for your Championship Part II ?

Relative to that particular fanfic, sure. It isn't actual canon, of course, perhaps we could call such things 'deuterocanon' I suppose.

As for Dr. Sagittarius, if you can figure out a justification for them still being alive after more than half a century, feel free to use them.

@Phoenix Spiritus:

Interesting! I wonder which birthday this is... Do we even know when Nacht's birthday is?

Formatting idea:

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Malady wrote: @Phoenix Spiritus:

Interesting! I wonder which birthday this is... Do we even know when Nacht's birthday is?

Formatting idea:

New Paragraph starting when a new person speaks and ending when you finish describing their way of speaking?

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"Natch" x3+ -> "Nacht"

"Of course the business suited" -> "Of course, the business-suited"?

"With a silent nod the business" -> "With a silent nod, the business"

"Frowning the" -> "Frowning, the"

"black suited" x2 -> "black-suited"

"Yes Trevor," -> "Yes, Trevor,"?

"Trevor Jadis. My name is Ayla," the woman asked the black suited woman." -> "Trevor, Jadis. My name is Ayla," the woman [Not 'asked'? 'Requested', more? And it seems to be a oft-refrained complaint for the look of it, like an in-joke?] the black-suited woman."

"blank faced, black haired girl snarked, "And if you wore a dress or a skirt she" -> "blank-faced, black-haired girl snarked, "And if you wore a dress or a skirt, she"

[Anyways, mainly hyphenation errors and missed comma for taken breaths? Try speaking it aloud and see where you take a breath?]

"giver" -> "give"

Forget us - I'd be surprised if Nacht knew when her birthday was. It doesn't seem like the type of detail that "Mother Dearest" would have concerned herself with.

Well, Marzena claimed to be her mother -- so she probably had some sort of papers, like a fake birth certificate. The real question is if the date on that fake birth certificate matches Kate's real birth date.

Or, for that matter, considering the various scams Marzena was involved with, which probably involved change of identities, whether there is a birth certificate that Kate has ever considered here "real one."

Sir Lee wrote: Well, Marzena claimed to be her mother -- so she probably had some sort of papers, like a fake birth certificate. The real question is if the date on that fake birth certificate matches Kate's real birth date.

Or, for that matter, considering the various scams Marzena was involved with, which probably involved change of identities, whether there is a birth certificate that Kate has ever considered here "real one."

Perhaps they used the date she was "dipped" in the Erebeal liquid.

With Sunny there, do you really think Nacht gets a say in when her birthday is? Or if she's going to celibate it?

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: With Sunny there, do you really think Nacht gets a say in when her birthday is? Or if she's going to celibate it?

Oh, while Sunny really thinks it would be good for Kate to loosen up, I very much doubt that she would force Kate into a motel bed with Thorn. She would leave the choice to be celibate to Kate, although she would tease her mercilessly about it.

Sir Lee wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: With Sunny there, do you really think Nacht gets a say in when her birthday is? Or if she's going to celibate it?

Oh, while Sunny really thinks it would be good for Kate to loosen up, I very much doubt that she would force Kate into a motel bed with Thorn. She would leave the choice to be celibate to Kate, although she would tease her mercilessly about it.

Well-played sir... I noticed the typo and was just going to mention it... but you sir are a genius.

Nice micro-scene, I can actually believe that Toni would learn a style of martial arts just to cheese someone off. But now I have in my mind Chaka in a fight grabbing her opponent and doing a spinning pile driver.

Hmmn, TBH the lack of any response to the Whisper micro, or to the reference to Citizen Kane in the Sunburst micro was a little disappointing, but so it goes.

Valentine, thank you for that micro-scene, even if it will never happen. It would be very nice if that happens somehow to the MCO.

And Phoenix, why would you subject Gunny to that level of insanity, let alone Louis through secondary exposure. Even for Gunny that is just too cruel. Shoot, I think seeing that would make even Gothmog question his sanity.

Fever dream, bought on by stress and overwork after the Combat Final's finished.

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Fever dream, bought on by stress and overwork after the Combat Final's finished.

Ah, that makes sense. Poor Gunny is going to need a vacation after the Combat Finals are over.

Dreamer wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Fever dream, bought on by stress and overwork after the Combat Final's finished.

Ah, that makes sense. Poor Gunny is going to need a vacation after the Combat Finals are over.

For real. And you guys haven't even seen the worst ones yet.

NeoMagus wrote:

Dreamer wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Fever dream, bought on by stress and overwork after the Combat Final's finished.

Ah, that makes sense. Poor Gunny is going to need a vacation after the Combat Finals are over.

For real. And you guys haven't even seen the worst ones yet.

You haven't seen a bunch of strange combat finals, but yes, I'll agree with Neo that you haven't seen the WORST one yet. It's ... well, you'll have to decide when you read it.

elrodw wrote:

NeoMagus wrote:

Dreamer wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Fever dream, bought on by stress and overwork after the Combat Final's finished.

Ah, that makes sense. Poor Gunny is going to need a vacation after the Combat Finals are over.

For real. And you guys haven't even seen the worst ones yet.

You haven't seen a bunch of strange combat finals, but yes, I'll agree with Neo that you haven't seen the WORST one yet. It's ... well, you'll have to decide when you read it.

Just make sure Kristin lets me know when she's about to release it so I have time to get to my fallout shelter.

NeoMagus wrote:

elrodw wrote:

NeoMagus wrote:

Dreamer wrote:

Phoenix Spiritus wrote: Fever dream, bought on by stress and overwork after the Combat Final's finished.

Ah, that makes sense. Poor Gunny is going to need a vacation after the Combat Finals are over.

For real. And you guys haven't even seen the worst ones yet.

You haven't seen a bunch of strange combat finals, but yes, I'll agree with Neo that you haven't seen the WORST one yet. It's ... well, you'll have to decide when you read it.

Just make sure Kristin lets me know when she's about to release it so I have time to get to my fallout shelter.

Neo since it may have been my bad influence that helped push you along, I've got your back.
Do you want the tank, or the nuclear grade bomb shelter? I also have access to a cave with a good water supply far from civilization if you want to become a hermit for safety.

@Domo: Never tell me the odds

You know, I think there's an at least 90% chance Dom has been watching the new BBC Sherlock Holmes, or possibly the Robert Downey Jr. movies.

I don't have cable and I haven't watched an adult tv show in at least 3 years.
The character Probably was created for another story (where she had much better control over her powers and much more outgoing) about 2 years ago as a side character.
I did watch the second Sherlock Holmes movie, but it was in Chinese at the time. And I don't think it had any real influence on her.

Domoviye wrote: I don't have cable and I haven't watched an adult tv show in at least 3 years.
The character Probably was created for another story (where she had much better control over her powers and much more outgoing) about 2 years ago as a side character.
I did watch the second Sherlock Holmes movie, but it was in Chinese at the time. And I don't think it had any real influence on her.

I guess his codename is "Probably"?

Reminds me of Worm's Dinah Alcott.

Her codename is Probably.
And yeah I noticed the similarity about a year after writing her up. But they're pretty different overall. You can ask her about scenario's all you want, she won't be able to answer anything that isn't directly affecting her or in her immediately vicinity. She also has a LOT less control in what percentages she sees, and more control in changing the outcomes.

You know, that could be a series of YA books...

"Miss Powerful: the adventures of a 'tween mutant."

It could. But I have other plans for Miss Powerful.

So, how'd/when'd you come up with Miss Powerful? And what about the amusing Car Running scene?

... Unless you don't want to say, of course. Just asking 'cause you gave for Probably...

Huh. There's nothing indicating Probably's a girl. I think? The "[Make] probability my bitch" seemed more male to me, with the use of "bitch"?

EDIT: I'm wrong. "small girl in broad daylight" ...

Probably is a girl. She may or may not be appearing in a future story.

Miss Powerful is just a fun little character I came up with. I was thinking of making a series of short little events concerning her adventures. And running around with a car over her head to test out her strength seemed par for the course.

So what do think of "From Ben to Egg" so far, that was my first draft, and I had no intention of getting that far, it was going to be a more cliffnotes style thing might end up moving it to its own thread for the next iteration.

Jar jar, you made Jade scary.


Excellent!



Mhalpern, you may want to move the story to its own fanfic topic. Looks like you could have a decent story there.

mhalpern wrote: So what do think of "From Ben to Egg" so far, that was my first draft, and I had no intention of getting that far, it was going to be a more cliffnotes style thing might end up moving it to its own thread for the next iteration.

I think it's definitely an interesting start, though you might consider actually starting a thread for it in the Fabrication Lab if you want to go further with it. That's probably better than just writing pieces of it in the Micro-Scenes thread.

Domoviye wrote: Jar jar, you made Jade scary.


Excellent!



Mhalpern, you may want to move the story to its own fanfic topic. Looks like you could have a decent story there.

Jade is not scary most of the time?

Jarjaross wrote:

Domoviye wrote: Jar jar, you made Jade scary.


Excellent!



Mhalpern, you may want to move the story to its own fanfic topic. Looks like you could have a decent story there.

Jade is not scary most of the time?

Point.

@Jarjar

I think Sam should be more surprised that Jade had plans for this, or at least re-think her opinion of Jade, and be something like sad that the Wondercute Break Scenario could have been avoided if they had known about Jade's plans or something?

"Something like sad" 'cause sadness is not the emotion I'm talking about. I just think that the emotion I have no name for is something like Sadness, but it might not be.

It's the feeling brought on by ThisAllCouldHaveBeenAvoided.

OH! "Apparently things were well in hand here." ... That's not from Sam's POV? Is it narrator sarcasm-thing? 'Cause that's just awesome!

Jade is far from the least stable of Team Wondercute, she may actually be the most stable. Well maybe second to Molly. You do need to know where her point of stability is though, because it is outside the norm.

Okay so I knew the second Microscene wasn't done well but class was about to start and I didn't have time to rethink/edit it and wasn't sure I'd still have the idea after class. It was a little rushed.

None of this is an excuse just an explanation. I accept the consequences of my shoddy workmanship.

@Malady: I didn't represent the time scale very well, after finding Jade the entire sequence takes less than 15 seconds. Sam was supposed to be speechless.

@Valentine: Jade may be stable but she doesn't appear to be to those around her or the Whateley staff. Also she is functionally the least like a normal teenager in the group. She is a tactical genius who acts like a ten year old girl.

Jarjaross wrote: Okay so I knew the second Microscene wasn't done well but class was about to start and I didn't have time to rethink/edit it and wasn't sure I'd still have the idea after class. It was a little rushed.

none of this is an excuse just an explanation. I accept the consequences of my shoddy workmanship.

@Malady: I didn't represent the time scale very well, after finding Jade the entire sequence takes less than 15 seconds. Sam was supposed to be speechless.

@Valentine: Jade may be stable but she doesn't appear to be to those around her or the Whateley staff. Also she is functionally the least like a normal teenager in the group. She is a tactical genius who acts like a ten year old girl.

*nods*

When I get ideas, if I'm out, I load up my email program (Outlook) and send an email to myself. Else I make a text file and put the idea in there for later. But, if your email costs money, then you can't do that...

Get a calendar program and make an alert in the near-future with your idea in there, so you get notified?

Anyone got any other tips?

EDIT: It's not like you can't clean it up.

Jarjaross wrote: Okay so I knew the second Microscene wasn't done well but class was about to start and I didn't have time to rethink/edit it and wasn't sure I'd still have the idea after class. It was a little rushed.

None of this is an excuse just an explanation. I accept the consequences of my shoddy workmanship.

@Malady: I didn't represent the time scale very well, after finding Jade the entire sequence takes less than 15 seconds. Sam was supposed to be speechless.

@Valentine: Jade may be stable but she doesn't appear to be to those around her or the Whateley staff. Also she is functionally the least like a normal teenager in the group. She is a tactical genius who acts like a ten year old girl.

I agree fully that she doesn't appear stable, but once you understand her worldview, it becomes apparent. She acts like a 10 year old girl, except when she is acting as cold blooded nut, and she switches back and forth easily.

Valentine wrote:

Jarjaross wrote: Okay so I knew the second Microscene wasn't done well but class was about to start and I didn't have time to rethink/edit it and wasn't sure I'd still have the idea after class. It was a little rushed.

None of this is an excuse just an explanation. I accept the consequences of my shoddy workmanship.

@Malady: I didn't represent the time scale very well, after finding Jade the entire sequence takes less than 15 seconds. Sam was supposed to be speechless.

@Valentine: Jade may be stable but she doesn't appear to be to those around her or the Whateley staff. Also she is functionally the least like a normal teenager in the group. She is a tactical genius who acts like a ten year old girl.

I agree fully that she doesn't appear stable, but once you understand her worldview, it becomes apparent. She acts like a 10 year old girl, except when she is acting as cold blooded nut, and she switches back and forth easily.

Precisely my point, and why Sam comments on her instability. Sam isn't completely in the know about how Jade works. None of the staff are, so from her perspective Jade is the least stable group member.

@Mhalpern - Hey! A new Egg Girl post, and just as I was gonna post this Egg Girl Song!

Hmm... A Dev-Bra. Interesting! ... Can't use it though, unfortunately.

Armored, Anti-Groping Dev-Bra? ... Why not a Gadg-Bra?

What about the B-Cup notification?

I kinda hate it when people blame extreme emotional responses on estrogen. Testosterone doesn't make you any more rational you know.

This probably has less impact coming from someone who has a mental disorder that hinders emotional responses to an extent.

NeoMagus wrote:

mhalpern wrote: So what do think of "From Ben to Egg" so far, that was my first draft, and I had no intention of getting that far, it was going to be a more cliffnotes style thing might end up moving it to its own thread for the next iteration.

I think it's definitely an interesting start, though you might consider actually starting a thread for it in the Fabrication Lab if you want to go further with it. That's probably better than just writing pieces of it in the Micro-Scenes thread.

I dont have permission to start a fabrication lab thread... otherwise I would

It appears very simple to get. You just ask.

Who do I ask?

Kristen, there's a topic about it somewhere.

I keep re-reading the Micro-Scene Archive... And ItWasAllJustADream pops up every once in a while...

What if Serious!Jade was a Recurring Nightmare for Gunny? ... Or basically any Micro-Scene for any certain character. But, right now, I'm thinking of Serious!Jade...

It could very well be his nightmare, but I don't want it to be. I want Serious!Jade as you call her to be a very real threat to people.

Then again if I had my way I'd be writing Jade in my off time, and I'm way to inexperienced (+not babs) to do that.

Also who says Serious!Jade isn't real? Jade scares the pants off of the other ultraviolents for a reason.

Jarjaross wrote: It could very well be his nightmare, but I don't want it to be. I want Serious!Jade as you call her to be a very real threat to people.

Then again if I had my way I'd be writing Jade in my off time, and I'm way to inexperienced (+not babs) to do that.

Also who says Serious!Jade isn't real? Jade scares the pants off of the other ultraviolents for a reason.

Her rooming with Tennyo is enough reason for the other ultraviolents to be afraid, if all you knew was their reputations, you would think of Jade as a devisor with access to unlimited antimatter, that is deadly WITHOUT it.

mhalpern wrote:

Jarjaross wrote: It could very well be his nightmare, but I don't want it to be. I want Serious!Jade as you call her to be a very real threat to people.

Then again if I had my way I'd be writing Jade in my off time, and I'm way to inexperienced (+not babs) to do that.

Also who says Serious!Jade isn't real? Jade scares the pants off of the other ultraviolents for a reason.

Her rooming with Tennyo is enough reason for the other ultraviolents to be afraid, if all you knew was their reputations, you would think of Jade as a devisor with access to unlimited antimatter, that is deadly WITHOUT it.

I don't know what is scarier Silly!Jade with unlimited antimatter or Serious!Jade with unlimited antimatter.

Jarjaross wrote: It could very well be his nightmare, but I don't want it to be. I want Serious!Jade as you call her to be a very real threat to people.

Why can't it be both? That Serious!Jade is his nightmare, because she's a very real threat to people.

Jarjaross wrote:

mhalpern wrote:

Jarjaross wrote: It could very well be his nightmare, but I don't want it to be. I want Serious!Jade as you call her to be a very real threat to people.

Then again if I had my way I'd be writing Jade in my off time, and I'm way to inexperienced (+not babs) to do that.

Also who says Serious!Jade isn't real? Jade scares the pants off of the other ultraviolents for a reason.

Her rooming with Tennyo is enough reason for the other ultraviolents to be afraid, if all you knew was their reputations, you would think of Jade as a devisor with access to unlimited antimatter, that is deadly WITHOUT it.

I don't know what is scarier Silly!Jade with unlimited antimatter or Serious!Jade with unlimited antimatter.

Silly!Jade, Serious!Jade would just kill you with it, Silly!Jade would give all non-exemplars and regens in the area cancer for the sake of bright flashing lights.

Malady wrote: @Mhalpern - Hey! A new Egg Girl post, and just as I was gonna post this Egg Girl Song!

Hmm... A Dev-Bra. Interesting! ... Can't use it though, unfortunately.

Armored, Anti-Groping Dev-Bra? ... Why not a Gadg-Bra?

What about the B-Cup notification?

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Nope as I said the Dev-Bra gave Ben the impression its creator was a pervert (most likely female pervert but never the less), not necessarily armored (slightly flame resistant and tougher than standard), the devise properties make it a one size deal, the notification was the current cup size, for practical reasons, after all one cant be expected to have a wardrobe of Devisor clothes, made with changing bodies in mind.

Edit, mostly it was a tool to torture err I mean track Ben's changes, without having to deal with department store issues pertaining to appearances. May do more with it in future iterations and after "hatching", but it was also a "you have divisors who make anything you can think of, so you know THIS exists" partially inspired by Glow's costume,

I meant that you talked about the C and A-Cup notifications, but made no note of a B-Cup notification, but then, I'm assuming it happened, you just didn't mention it.

Malady wrote: I meant that you talked about the C and A-Cup notifications, but made no note of a B-Cup notification, but then, I'm assuming it happened, you just didn't mention it.

That happened during the time skip, haven't ironed out the the dates, not sure about the year either, no reason to go day to day at that point, also wanted to make the growth feel faster than it truly was, for perspective reasons, in at that point in time Ben will have just gotten used to the idea he had them in the first place, now being forced to come to the realization that they aren't exactly small either. Also not a whole lot happens between the first time putting the Dev-Bra on and C-cup, in truth I was debating between B and C for that scene but I felt that going straight to C captured the illusion of things going quickly better

Also Ben/Betty/Dragon Egg (note this is considered a temporary codename for MID purposes, when that scene is expanded on this will be mentioned), is a very reserved person and very much an introvert, though it may not have been my intention originally, the egg shell itself may evolve into a form of literary tool, whether it grows more as she comes out of her proverbial "shell", I don't know, but probably.
Originally it was cause dragons are cool and I liked the idea of a rather slow and intricate transformation path that gives the mutant a chance to process things a little bit at a time rather than it all being thrown in their face, which happens to be one of the things I look forward to with Danny Franks, though sibling antics also are a sizable factor

Right now though, I need a bigger character pool, and I haven't even decided on the timeline yet, and I don't really have a huge intention of creating a hole cast for what was just an idea in my head that itself has gone through multiple iterations in what I would like to see in a transformation story in general, in small snippets since my love of the book series The Inheritance Cycle began to meld with my love of transformation stories in general. The character pool is especially important for the next chapter on where employing the "shell device" would start. And Betty doesn't even have a last name yet, or a middle name and I may need 2 of those! And if I decide the last name starts with a D than Aaron/Erin may be out of the question as are all A and E middle names! Heck the only reason I chose the name "Ben" was that it rhymes with "Egg", and "Beatrice" or rather the shortened "Betty" doesn't sound too different from "Ben" and I want to keep away from using Cannon students too much because I know I will misinterpret them and their developments will make my best prediction on them glaringly off, I may have good guesses, but I have no way of knowing how any cannon student will respond to different situations, and the more I do so and the more different they become, the more forced they will be. I feel like before I go much further I need a Fanfic character pool that's more than just me, I mean Tekhe from the Bad Ideas might come in as a side character, but this is the most I've developed any character, and its more than I intended to.

And that's basically where I'm at, I can't decide on the year, the names and am in need of a "fan-fiction cabal" and a bunch of other details that WILL stick out like a sore thumb for being missing, aren't there...


As I was rant typing, the names Benjamin Nathan Davidson and Beatrice Natalie Davidson came to mind so thank you... And yes, the fact that BND would be pronounced "bend" if it were a team in RWBY might have helped that along...

Well, what characters do you need, in as specific as you want 'cause I can come up with stuff if you want.

Any characters I make, you can take.

You could set the story in some alternate 2006, or perhaps a bit earlier, like 2000, where there isn't a big looming threat, and so you don't have to deal with The Bastard and stuff...

Or, have some alt-continuity where The Bastard is wiped out due to the appearance of some info source that isn't in Canon, like Phoenix Spiritus's Solomon, or some Oracle Devise, or, to use one of my ideas, an Oracle of Delphi Avatar.

You could delay The Bastard by having something happen to the Sierre Madre Mountains, like a Nano-plague or a Zombie Infestation, or something.

Or to use another of my ideas... Something with that Well of Mimir Cult, which, given the Well of Mimir, could give people prophetic powers by drinking it, or if you want to go Odin, by dropping their... right, or left, eye into the Well, for power...

general students mainly, powers aren't exactly important, as combat is not what drives the main conflict for the story, at least not right now, the steady transformation does, its not a story about super fights, yes they will exist, but that's not what its about, I need friends and reasonable enemies, it will probably be in 2007, or 2016, so that I have more source material to piggy back on, I just have a personal rule on no shipping with Canon characters and letting them keep to the background not going too far ahead on them as I could invoke serious discrepancies.

and staying away from the mega arks.

Kettlekorn, I'm at a complete loss for words...

NeoMagus wrote: Kettlekorn, I'm at a complete loss for words...

Seconded.

That Scene reminds of [C] - Control , 'cause of the money fighty things...

Well, I'm not at a loss for words. I do have a few.

The first were: What were you smoking?

And then: Where can I get some?

The only time I smoke is when I'm on fire. I have, however, been known to eat an excess of jelly beans, generally sourced from this Kroger . Normally I purchase groceries from Food City because out of my local options their store is the most convenient to access and the most pleasant to be within, even if their self-checkout machines are slightly substandard. Unfortunately, my Food City only carries Jelly Belly. My local Kroger, on the other hand, carries Private Selection jelly beans, which I prefer. They also have 32oz containers of maple syrup, which are rather more convenient than the 24oz containers found at Food City.

Truly, I am the height of sophistication.

Kettlekorn, you need to lay off the jellybeans. They're obviously bad for you.
Still that story DEFINITELY rates a

Nice take down Domoviye, not exactly what I expected, but hey, Tink was there!

I'm behind with commenting on the micro-scenes.

Jarjaross: Loved the Jade scenes, felt like something which could happen in canon. With Jade it is hard to predict how she will react and what she has planned.

Domoviye: Love Miss Powerful and can't wait to read more about her and her antics. Any more about Rose and how she deals with her mother living in denial would be nice. And that Tink scene with everyone contributing to taking down Mimeo was perfect. Gave me a much needed laugh.

And Kettlekorn, just what in the world did you eat before bed to come up with that Dragonball Z/Whateley Academy dream/nightmare of Ayla's?

Dreamer wrote: I'm behind with commenting on the micro-scenes. .

Domoviye: Love Miss Powerful and can't wait to read more about her and her antics. Any more about Rose and how she deals with her mother living in denial would be nice. And that Tink scene with everyone contributing to taking down Mimeo was perfect. Gave me a much needed laugh

Thank you. I've got a few more ideas for Miss Powerful and Rose that I'll put out every Monday until my muse shuts up. I think people will like them.

With Mimeo, I've wanted Tink to fight him for a while, but anything that lasted a while just seemed like Mary Sue for Tink, so not going to happen. Then reading the Mimeo thread, it hit me, make her the delivery system for someone else's plan. They couldn't use a robot, he'd just crush it, someone bigger couldn't get close enough, and Mimeo could get away from anyone who isn't a speedster before they grabbed him. And without being carefully positioned, they wouldn't be able to direct the virus to his mouth and nose without being obvious, at which point he breaks the nozzle to the reservoir of virus, or starts beating them to a pulp, gaining a new power. Tink had the right powers, and was odd enough to make him pause on beating her up long enough that there was nothing he could do.
It was perfect.

Tink, For all your "WTF?" needs, right?

That being said, I was laughing hard the entire time I was reading that. Thanks for the great mood enhancer.

She is kind of a WTF character

I could actually see something like that working on Mimeo, and you're right, Eldritch would despise him for hurting students.

Domo, you have been a busy little bee. Loved how Tink reacted to getting the autographed pic from Mimeo and then the future scene with her against Mimeo as she is drinking a large container of devisor coffee, I pity Mimeo. Another new character with Marni, what a way to find out you are a mutant. And love how Rose retaliated against the jerk who destroyed her blueprint, pink glittery paint, hehehe.

Seems like Rose is a gadgeteer with a danger sense tied to her gadgeteering

Dreamer wrote: Domo, you have been a busy little bee. Loved how Tink reacted to getting the autographed pic from Mimeo and then the future scene with her against Mimeo as she is drinking a large container of devisor coffee, I pity Mimeo. Another new character with Marni, what a way to find out you are a mutant. And love how Rose retaliated against the jerk who destroyed her blueprint, pink glittery paint, hehehe.

Mimeo would probably win against Tink. The plan actually counts on it.
They figure Mimeo will go hyper like Tink does, they'll fight and while Tink goes to sleep at the end, they're hoping Mimeo will also be really tired. With his powers it won't be as bad as Tink's collapse, but even having him significantly tired for 10 or 15 minutes, might be enough to let the power armour catch him.

With Rose, I liked her retaliation to. She's not a shrinking violet even if she's not one to crow about her revenge.

mhalpern wrote: Seems like Rose is a gadgeteer with a danger sense tied to her gadgeteering

Danger sense? Where did you get that idea?

Domoviye wrote:

Dreamer wrote: Domo, you have been a busy little bee. Loved how Tink reacted to getting the autographed pic from Mimeo and then the future scene with her against Mimeo as she is drinking a large container of devisor coffee, I pity Mimeo. Another new character with Marni, what a way to find out you are a mutant. And love how Rose retaliated against the jerk who destroyed her blueprint, pink glittery paint, hehehe.

Mimeo would probably win against Tink. The plan actually counts on it.
They figure Mimeo will go hyper like Tink does, they'll fight and while Tink goes to sleep at the end, they're hoping Mimeo will also be really tired. With his powers it won't be as bad as Tink's collapse, but even having him significantly tired for 10 or 15 minutes, might be enough to let the power armour catch him.

With Rose, I liked her retaliation to. She's not a shrinking violet even if she's not one to crow about her revenge.

mhalpern wrote: Seems like Rose is a gadgeteer with a danger sense tied to her gadgeteering

Danger sense? Where did you get that idea?

The need for a shield

Ah, ok. No that was just her brain getting inspired because of something it saw. No danger sense for her.

Abandoning Idea:

Re-imagining Whateley as a Campaign Comic ... Well, a Campaign Story, anyways.

Main writer's block and Primary Micro-Scene Focus: Character Creation Section.

Domoviye wrote: Ah, ok. No that was just her brain getting inspired because of something it saw. No danger sense for her.

Ahh so it wasn't a second function of her esper trait that lets her understand machines,

mhalpern wrote: esper trait that lets her understand machines,

Uhh... Do you mean the "Gadgeteer Trait"?

mhalpern wrote:

Domoviye wrote: Ah, ok. No that was just her brain getting inspired because of something it saw. No danger sense for her.

Ahh so it wasn't a second function of her esper trait that lets her understand machines,

She's just a gadgeteer, similar to Loophole in understanding machines and figuring them out by just looking at them, but much weaker.

Malady wrote:

mhalpern wrote: esper trait that lets her understand machines,

Uhh... Do you mean the "Gadgeteer Trait"?

From canon - Gadgeteer is a specialized branch of the Esper trait.

Yeah I find it interesting that "esper" is a "spectrum trait" that covers all the intuition related abilities

mhalpern wrote: Yeah I find it interesting that "esper" is a "spectrum trait" that covers all the intuition related abilities

^_^ Currently, at least. Wasn't there an earlier story where they were theorizing that it was a branch of Alchemy, and therefore Magic? The Power Geeks probably change classifications every few years for the new Grand Unified Theory that solves all of the problems until someone brings up an exception.

FuzzyBoots wrote:

mhalpern wrote: Yeah I find it interesting that "esper" is a "spectrum trait" that covers all the intuition related abilities

^_^ Currently, at least. Wasn't there an earlier story where they were theorizing that it was a branch of Alchemy, and therefore Magic? The Power Geeks probably change classifications every few years for the new Grand Unified Theory that solves all of the problems until someone brings up an exception.

I think you're thinking something else, the most common branch trait of esper is danger sense, what you might be thinking of is Devising, not esper, esper is dangersense, seeing the past or future, knowing the history of an object by touching it, or understanding something on proximity, if someone was a low level esper and their eyes didn't change color or anything, in many cases, they may not ever know, as esper abilities are inherently subtle

In reality all mutant powers are a derivation of the Cth(Ex) and Cth(Mys) traits...

Hey Malady you do know that the bell and rosary are Christian symbols right? The rosary being almost exclusively Catholic.

One of my favourite stories in Christian mythology (yes there is a mythology) is about a catholic missionary who used a giant iron bell as a 1-handed mace to bash in the heads of infidels. While saying the Lord's Prayer. In priests robes and armour. In the middle of the Amazon rain forest.

Jarjaross wrote: Hey Malady you do know that the bell and rosary are Christian symbols right? The rosary being almost exclusively Catholic.

One of my favourite stories in Christian mythology (yes there is a mythology) is about a catholic missionary who used a giant iron bell as a 1-handed mace to bash in the heads of infidels. While saying the Lord's Prayer. In priests robes and armour. In the middle of the Amazon rain forest.

It's pretty much from Chou's origin story..."a bell, a bead necklace thing and a Chinese straight sword". except for referring to them as a rosary.

DanZilla wrote:

Jarjaross wrote: Hey Malady you do know that the bell and rosary are Christian symbols right? The rosary being almost exclusively Catholic.

One of my favourite stories in Christian mythology (yes there is a mythology) is about a catholic missionary who used a giant iron bell as a 1-handed mace to bash in the heads of infidels. While saying the Lord's Prayer. In priests robes and armour. In the middle of the Amazon rain forest.

It's pretty much from Chou's origin story..."a bell, a bead necklace thing and a Chinese straight sword". except for referring to them as a rosary.

Yes and bells are used in religious symbolism around the world. Rosaries are not, there are rosary like neclaces used in some other cultures but they are not rosaries. A rosary has a crucifix hanging down from the 'centre' after 4 beads and then a circle of 40 or so (I don't remember the exact number) beads each of which is equally spaced but of different sizes or engravings.

And, that section was from Nocte , presuming that it's the same Nocte... ... We don't have a Call Out feature where we can auto-email people to bring them into the conversation, right?

A "Rosary" is used to count off the prayers in a Rosary, which is an Orthodox (Catholic?) tradition of saying prayers like the Hail Mary, Our Father, Hail Holy Queen and others in specific patterns (usually five "decads", which is five time ten Hail Mary's with the associated other prayers between them).

Since the Hail Mary gives Protestants conniptions, and the Hail Holy Queen right out makes them swear, its not something your likely to see done outside Orthodox Christian groups.

(FYI, "Catholics" are just one of the "Orthodox Christians", but since they are like 1/6th of the population of the planet, they tend to be counted as a seperate group).